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Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeon podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: We must have had a pretty good show yesterday because

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Speaker 3: it was repeated from two to four on the Sports.

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Speaker 4: Hull Friday night. At five thirty of the broadcast in

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Speaker 4: the Attleborough game.

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Speaker 3: There's a professional Gretty Welcome to Sharon High School. I

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Speaker 3: Mike Youse readable hock a mock league action tonight fifty fifty.

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Speaker 3: He's one of Jacoby Brissette's weapons. But is he a weapon?

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Speaker 3: I'm going I know it. I know I like him.

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Speaker 2: I think he's dynamic. I don't think he is Mario Douglas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about pop now now I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: the Mario.

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Speaker 2: I know it was Wes Welker a weapon, Yes he was.

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Speaker 3: Guys that averaged ten yards to catch are not weapons.

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Speaker 2: Troy Welcer not not good enough for Patriots Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Because Evan loves to go around talking to guys in

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Speaker 4: the locker room.

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Speaker 5: Maybe Lazar's whispers in the locker room, you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: a little This is Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, another edition of Patriots Unfiltered. It's Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's Alex because it's pickstay. We got a hurry.

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Speaker 3: She's not celebrating more, none of us. Oh no no,

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Speaker 3: but usually you only come in when you have something

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Speaker 3: to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Duson Van'll be by later. But yesterday we made the

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Speaker 2: announcement that we're going to launch our Patriots Unfiltered newsletter,

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Speaker 2: and the reaction has been overwhelming, well received, a lot

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Speaker 2: of people emailing in trying to making sure that they're

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Speaker 2: part of the initial list. Send send list, I should say,

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Speaker 2: did you know about this, Alex?

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Speaker 7: I heard rumbling, but nothing formal. But newsletters are back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we decided to come up with a newsletter. It'll

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Speaker 2: have clips of you know, like we'll do a couple

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Speaker 2: do our picks results, keep us all accountable, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll have other features within it.

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Speaker 3: I just had to send the Picks to somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't like being in last place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll probably have you contribute to it as well.

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Speaker 2: But this will go out weekly to all or anyone

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Speaker 2: that emails into the show will be on the initial list.

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Speaker 2: And then if you want to opt out, you don't

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Speaker 2: have to get it. But I don't see why you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're going to start that in a couple

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Speaker 2: should be fun.

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Speaker 7: Good idea. Yeah, I support it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good. And then I have another announcement because we're

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Speaker 2: getting I was told that web radio at patries dot com.

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Speaker 2: The word web and radio are dated, you know, like

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Speaker 2: nobody cares about the web and nobody cares about radio anymore. Sorry, Paul, uh, So,

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Speaker 2: we've changed our email address.

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Speaker 3: Would disagree.

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Speaker 2: We've changed. We've changed our email address to podcasts at

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Speaker 2: Patriots dot com. Now, if you have web radio already

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Speaker 2: locked in somehow and you send it to that address,

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Speaker 2: we're still going to get your emails, so don't worry

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Speaker 2: about that. But from now on you're going to hear

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Speaker 2: us saying send your emails to podcasts at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 2: Take take an email, Yeah, but either way, if you

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Speaker 2: send it to either one, it'll all go to the

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Speaker 2: same place, so you'll be fine. But we've got to

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Speaker 2: get with the times. I'm told podcasts is more appropriate

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Speaker 2: and makes more sense to actually what we're doing these days.

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Speaker 2: So podcasts at Patriots dot com is our new email address. Current,

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Speaker 2: a lot of changes, TTX hotline, a lot of stuff happening, Paul,

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Speaker 3: I don't like change for change sake. No, No, I

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Speaker 3: like the newsletter. And you know if we have different

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Speaker 2: We need a food sponsor, we need a lunch sponsor, right, yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: All these years of pizza time shout outs, surprise, no

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Speaker 7: one's come knocking.

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Speaker 2: I know. Well, they probably feel like our reach goes

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Speaker 7: Right yeah, but just the name Jersey Mikes in and

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Speaker 7: But like the founders, Yeah, they'd be like Duncan Donuts

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we already got Duncan flowers, right, but I'm just

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Speaker 2: And not that we wouldn't want Duncan to be the

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Speaker 3: See now, I'm just having like Vietnam flashbacks because Tony's

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Speaker 3: You know, Sunshine dot Com driving away with a Toyota.

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Speaker 2: I do, all right. It is Thursday. We are talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's going to be significant to

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Speaker 3: the Cayden Wallace thing, you know. I I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, that's the only thing that they've

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Speaker 3: You know, you get a scoring drive early in the

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Speaker 3: And then they run the ball so effectively San Francisco

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Speaker 3: they're still going to have a chance to continue their production.

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Speaker 2: Even with McCaffrey out. They had this kid, what was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was tearing it up last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's a it's a good system and they

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Speaker 3: He's run the ball well.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So as we say, it comes Duce Patriot League champion. Hey, Matt,

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Speaker 4: Now it's injuries.

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Speaker 5: You know, they just they just can't seem to find

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Speaker 2: Well, you know. I had to call out for the newsletter,

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Speaker 3: I think that's that has the potential to be the best,

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Speaker 3: but they're not. That's not ready.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not ready.

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Speaker 4: He got to get a low back ready.

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Speaker 3: pick I think he has. I think he has more potential,

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Speaker 3: But by no means you know, I'm I'm not an

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Speaker 4: Yet there's here's forty plays and you know Laden Robinson,

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Speaker 5: Brian body knows who Sailor is, right.

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Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta use that.

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Speaker 5: She beat a few Patriots because she's you know, Jack,

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Speaker 2: we didn't beat ourselves, that that helps. But it's an

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Speaker 5: I'm just kind of sick of being at the place

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Speaker 5: like it'd be nice to be like man, spread them

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: They might have to take the ball away too. All

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Speaker 3: that stuff might not be enough. Ye yeah, they might

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Speaker 4: How are you gonna all right?

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Speaker 5: Sitting next to Evan in that press box if brock

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Speaker 4: Defense, where Evan's gonna lose his mind?

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Speaker 3: I think purty rock party.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when he's going to admit that he's

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Speaker 5: going back Tom like is he really? And then every

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Speaker 4: Makes it run, He's fits the ball where it needs

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Speaker 2: And what it looked like, you know, before Garoppolo got

439
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: hurt in that first seas and that he played, he

440
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 2: looks very similar to me.

441
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, i'd see that. I mean, they gotta

442
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 4: pay him, right, They're gonna have to.

443
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 5: Like I don't necessarily think it's the worst thing in

444
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 5: the world, but it's just always hard. You want to

445
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 5: when you pay a quarterback that money, you want to

446
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 5: you want to feel like this guy is a superstar.

447
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you know, it's just as

448
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,959
Speaker 5: hard to put person category.

449
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 7: But like he's so female, Like quarterback play is just

450
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's not Drew Brees and Peyton Manning

451
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 7: and Tom anymore. You know, like there's the two elite guys,

452
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 7: and then.

453
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: It's JUSTO says to him, I can do it with

454
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 2: other guys. I don't have to pay him, you know.

455
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like he looked for so long, you know,

456
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: and it just seems like this is a guy who's

457
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 5: able to stay healthy.

458
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: Which Jimmy wasn't really able to do.

459
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, just giving him stability there and

460
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 5: how much do you value stability and experience now as

461
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: he's stacking it. So, I mean, I have nothing bad

462
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 5: to say about him. I just I think he's he's

463
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 5: just an interesting player. I mean, did you guys ever

464
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 5: feel that way about Brady? I mean this is probably

465
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 5: not I'm guessing no, because you guys watched all the

466
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 5: practice and you probably he had a sense.

467
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 4: That this guy's just good. But I know there are

468
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people on the outside of Brady that

469
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 4: are you know, oh, he's just a game manager. What

470
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 4: does he really do?

471
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean early on, early, I was gonna say, you're

472
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: talking like one two.

473
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I mean in two thousand, when he

474
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: was a backup. I have to be honest, I wasn't

475
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: like this kid's coming up. I was not there.

476
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't either, but you definitely like, I wasn't

477
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: stunned when he made the team. I was shocked that

478
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: they kept four quarterbacks, but I wasn't really shocked that

479
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: he was one of them, because I thought he did

480
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: show promise in his first training camp. But Fred's right,

481
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 3: he was talk We talk about all this stuff every

482
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 3: day just like we do now. We were doing it

483
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: then and none of us was saying, oh, yeah, this

484
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: guy he's the air of parents. He's coming on. No, no,

485
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: And even in O one, when he was markedly better

486
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: than he was in two thousand, still I wasn't thinking

487
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: that way.

488
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: And you got to remember back then. One of the

489
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: first things that happened after Belichick became head coaches, Kraft

490
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: gave Bledsoe big extensions, you know, and it had a

491
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: big press uh press conference at the basement of the

492
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: Bank of Boston building because it was selling club seats

493
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: at the time. And uh, I remember the look on

494
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: Belichick's face, the sour puss because it like you.

495
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 3: Didn't realize that was like Monday.

496
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, no Tuesday, Like you could tell he wasn't

497
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 10: one hundred percent on board with the decision.

498
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and quickly it changed, how quickly.

499
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: It yes, so but but all the focus was on Bledsoe.

500
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: That's my point. Yeah, you know, there was no it

501
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: was right right.

502
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 5: I can imagine those would have been some good shows, though, Paul,

503
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 5: if you had a spunky little co host who was like,

504
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 5: I'm telling you Drew's in trouble.

505
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah's gonna have this kidnapping it.

506
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that that didn't happen because I would

507
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: have really had a lot of clips that make me

508
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: have had to fight back because I you know, we

509
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: didn't do that, And I would have definitely been defensive

510
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: of Drew and what's this guy? And I know, I

511
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: know this stupid stuff. I would have been saying, So

512
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm glad that doesn't exist, and Fred be

513
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: hit to back me up. It didn't take a lot

514
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: of games for Brady like for me to sell you

515
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 3: can't do it Drew.

516
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: No, No, that was not a discussion either on this

517
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: show back then because we were all in agreement.

518
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: You got to keep him in to me, like the

519
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: Celts game was.

520
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 7: That because of just like the vibe and how things

521
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: were looking and you don't want to break up like

522
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 7: the chemistine or what did you actually see, Like, No,

523
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 7: Tom is a better quarterback than Drew.

524
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: Oh No, I didn't see it that way. I just

525
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: thought that they were responding to him and they were

526
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: winning and like people forget like Drew was not even

527
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: available for like two months, like it wasn't even a.

528
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: Question, right and then by the time he was it was.

529
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like six and two or seven and

530
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: one or whatever. I think it was six and two

531
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: in those eight games, and I like, I'm the biggest

532
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 3: Drew supporter that there is, and I was like, you

533
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: can't make the change now.

534
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean the only person who thought that you

535
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 10: should was Drew. You know, you didn't think you should

536
00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 10: lose his job.

537
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: He had injured.

538
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: He had his boys in the media too, like you know,

539
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: like Nick Cafardo and Ron Borgis and Kevin Mannix, like

540
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: you know, they all were loyal to him.

541
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like it wasn't like an outcry.

542
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 3: No, you know, no, it wasn't. I'm not diminishing the decision,

543
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: but it wasn't that tough of a decision. Now, when

544
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: he ends up going all the way and winning at all,

545
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: I think it became a no brainer. Like I think

546
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: people like I can't believe, you know, Bill had the

547
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 3: guts and the foresight to trade Drew. No, like there

548
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: was only one thing to do once they won the

549
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Yeah, but Brady would have had to have

550
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: fallen on his face in the playoffs for there to

551
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: be any chance that Drew comes back to New England,

552
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: and he didn't. He won the Super Bowl and was

553
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: the MVP.

554
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: And they gave him. You know, they redid his contract.

555
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: There were some in the media that said, oh, you know,

556
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: too soon, he really he's only done it one year.

557
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: That was true, yes, but I think also that was

558
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: probably a goods Obviously.

559
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: They redid his contract after into the two series, had

560
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: one year as a starter, two years in the league,

561
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: right did the super Bowl, and they gave him they

562
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: gave him a bump, they jump bump.

563
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: Do you think that was bills or is that?

564
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: I think it was craft end bill and it was

565
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: smart economic. You know, like if he had waited four years,

566
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: the price would have been a hell of a lot more.

567
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 7: I mean, what would he have been making all the

568
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: way back then as a sixth rounder, you know, like.

569
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: He was making nothing. I mean, they didn't really give

570
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: him a huge contract, but it was you know, they

571
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: didn't have to. It was two years ahead of time.

572
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 5: It's funny much time talking about maximizing quarterback on his

573
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 5: rookie deal and they were like one super Bowl and

574
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 5: they're like.

575
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: At that time, I think it was why I think

576
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: it was a three year deal. Okay, he signed, but

577
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't I'd have to look.

578
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: At it maybe, And you know, at the time, you know,

579
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning was the leader in the clubhouse, and he

580
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: was he had been in the league a year ahead

581
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: of and he was going to sign whatever he signed

582
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: for it was going to be huge, and they wanted

583
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: to get in front of that. I think, think and

584
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: get this done before you know, somebody raises the market

585
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: significantly like he did.

586
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that it's interesting. I didn't realize that.

587
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: So anyway back to current current days, but I.

588
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: Do think Fred back to the Niners, I know what

589
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: your point is about. The other team knows that you're

590
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: going to run the ball, and you know you're setting

591
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: yourself up. I mean, I don't think that they know

592
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: you're going to run the ball anymore than anybody else

593
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: that they faced so far has known it, and they've

594
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: been able to do it in the first two games.

595
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: To me, it's about the start, and you know, the

596
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: throws that you're talking about to me are runs. If

597
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: they want to do that, that's fine, Like if you

598
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: want to like see if you can jump start things.

599
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: But I talk about this all the time. You know,

600
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: a little a nice little play action on first down.

601
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: They did that against the Jets and it didn't work.

602
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying that just because it didn't work

603
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 3: against the Jets, you should just get away from it.

604
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: I think those plays that Fred described that the Bills used,

605
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: those can be like running plays that can get your

606
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: offense going.

607
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: You wonder too, if Romandre gets into a rhythm a

608
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 5: little bit too, you know what I mean, Like just

609
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: not they just felt like they were cold in the

610
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: beginning and they didn't really have something Like I just

611
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 5: I like him when he starts get going and gets

612
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 5: a couple of carries and you know, you.

613
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: Feel like, all right, he's involved.

614
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's a general thing with most teams,

615
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 5: trying to get your your best pieces involved early. And

616
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 5: maybe that's part of the problem last week, not getting

617
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 5: him involved more.

618
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it could be going, you know, sticking on Remandre.

619
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: You know, he's been upfront about the fumbling issue, as

620
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: has has his coach. What if he does fumble again? Like,

621
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: what do we do here?

622
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, you know, you know what Bill would do?

623
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: You know?

624
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

625
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 10: But even but at this point in Vermondre's career, I

626
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 10: think even Bill would have a hard time now.

627
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: Like but that's a really good question because what do

628
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: they do, Like do you just say, Antonio Gibson, you're

629
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: gonna get twenty five carries, thirty carries this week.

630
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: We're not running Downmondre.

631
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: You know that is a hard that's.

632
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for like putting Ramondre out there,

633
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: give him a start and hoping he doesn't but what

634
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: if he does well?

635
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean he's fumbled in every game, so

636
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: you know, it's there has to be a certain point

637
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: where you're like, dude, like we got to do.

638
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: Something about this, Like we can't just keep you can't keep.

639
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: Talking about it. He was good in the locker room

640
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 5: today though. He answered a bunch of questions and then

641
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: one of the reporters he was walking onwy was just like,

642
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: you know, sorry, man, we didn't and he's like, no,

643
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: I put it on tape. I got to answer for it.

644
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 4: So he you know, he's got a good attitude about it,

645
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: at least as far as that. But the proof's in

646
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: the pudding.

647
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 5: And we all know how important turnovers are in this game,

648
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 5: and there'd be nothing worse than to come out of

649
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: this game and feel like another Remondrae fumble, Like how

650
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 5: do you It's a good challenge for Mayo you.

651
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Know, I think one of the things we talked about

652
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: it is, you know, you get into the end of

653
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: your run, realizing when the fight's over and just doubling up.

654
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: On the ball and double in trouble and.

655
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and just calling it a day. So, yeah,

656
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: he's got to do something.

657
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: You know when you say, like what do you do?

658
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: Like it's so different. Like Bill could could bench him, right,

659
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: not because Bill had the you know, the gravitized to

660
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: bench him, Like he could go no, but he could

661
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: go to a game and just say, well, we're going

662
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: to throw the ball fifty times today.

663
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: Right right, And you know what I mean long.

664
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: You know, so like Stephen Ridley fumbles the ball, well,

665
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: you know what, Steven, go over there and sit down.

666
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Tom's going to throw it fifty times today because that's

667
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: what we want to do today, Danny Wood.

668
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

669
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: It makes it a little bit easier. They don't have

670
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: like that that varied of a game plan to fall

671
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: back on. They have to run the ball. I mean,

672
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: you're not going to go out and what did they

673
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: run the ball like nine times the other night. They're

674
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: not going to win games doing that now. And I

675
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: know that probably sounds funny for me, of all people,

676
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: but like this offense cannot sustain thirty five forty passes

677
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: with the state of the offensive line right.

678
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of the state I design. Speaking of the

679
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: state of the offensive line, Nathan in New York rights

680
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: in first he says, love the newsletter idea, sign me up.

681
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you email the show, you're

682
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: signed up, or if you have emailed the show in

683
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: the past, you're signed up.

684
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: So what are you going to do? What's your contribution

685
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: to the news letter going to be?

686
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 7: You don't know, maybe like a little life settlement in

687
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 7: the bottom or food.

688
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Food actually has to pertain to the show though, because

689
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: it's regarding it has to pertain to the show somehow.

690
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: But anyway, Nathan says, regarding the offensive line, this all

691
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: goes back to Bill's attempt to modernize the offense in

692
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, letting Ted Karas Shack Mason go, then

693
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: signing or drafting Cold Strange may have been hubris, but

694
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: it was also an attempt to get more athletic on

695
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: the line so they could run more stretch plays. Three

696
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: years later, the offensive line is a mess. The coach

697
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: and the quarterback are off the team, and they still

698
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: can't run outside zone. Once again, this is all Matt

699
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: Patricia's fault, kidding. Kind of a real offensive coordinat would

700
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: have told Bill to stop meddling.

701
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: I feel like they're neither here nor there with it.

702
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: Like I agree with the point about cold Strange, but

703
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: then you also have Michael Whnu, who you have chosen

704
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: to retain as well, so they never they made a

705
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: couple moves to do that kind of thing, but then

706
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: you still have kind of one foot in the outside

707
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: zone system and one foot still in the power zone.

708
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know. It's so I don't know how

709
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna pull it all together.

710
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I think that the idea that they

711
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: had was very good. I think that they needed to

712
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: change the offense. I think that their execution of it

713
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: was very bad. And Cole Strange starts that because, yes,

714
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: the idea of an athletic guard over a Shaq Mason

715
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: or Ted Karris makes some sense, but it doesn't matter

716
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: if he's not as good as those guys. So that's

717
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: where I think they failed is the execution. And then Belichick,

718
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: I think compounded that by putting Patricia in a spot

719
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: where that he wasn't really qualified for. So now he's

720
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: trying to implement the new system and he doesn't really

721
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: know the new system right well enough to do.

722
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: It, so while also coaching the offensive one.

723
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: I think again I fall back on the on the

724
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: Brian Hoyer stuff from the summer, you know, and talking

725
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: to Brian a little bit about it, that like, this

726
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: is what they were doing, this is what we were

727
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: trying to do, and this was it wasn't a bad

728
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: move to say we got to get away from that,

729
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, sort of tried and true. Josh McDaniels, Charlie Weiss,

730
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, ron Arhoart offense, but they didn't necessarily a

731
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: have the people to implement it. That's the most important part,

732
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: and be the personnel. So I think that's where they fought,

733
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: and the email is exactly right. That's why they're still

734
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: sort of searching for those pieces because Bill didn't get

735
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: the right ones.

736
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: Can I throw a little take out there, kind of

737
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: take development, Well, Fred goes.

738
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be long enough for Mike to have

739
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: to assume the host duties, all.

740
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 5: Right, that could be part of the newsletter too. Where

741
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: does Fred goes, actually, have you watched Jaws yet?

742
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: That should be the newsletter.

743
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: We watched Jos with her, and then just we just

744
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: like kind of do like a live running blog of

745
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: like Alex's commentary about jobs.

746
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: My thoughts. No, this is my take, and it's good

747
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: that Alex is here too.

748
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: Let's do it so you know what we kind of talked,

749
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: and I think it was kind of specific to the

750
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: Celtics last year, but generally talking about modern sports teams

751
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: that are kind of wishy washy, like week to week

752
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: like sometimes you just like and we kind of I

753
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 5: think have talked about it being maybe this younger generation

754
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 5: of like it's hard to find teams right now. It

755
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: feels like there's some of them, but not a lot

756
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: that are locked in seventeen games night after night. They're

757
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: walked in, and I just wonder if we're seeing that

758
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 5: a little bit in the NFL now too, with some

759
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 5: of these results that we've had, and even relating it

760
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: to the Patriots the other night, where it was like,

761
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 5: you know, I'm having a lot of conversations is this

762
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: who they are? And I think you say, well, it

763
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: was a bad night, but I also think that you're

764
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: seeing that a lot more in sports, and I mean

765
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: maybe you can speak to it a little bit with

766
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: the Celtics where some nights are just like what's going

767
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: on out there, like, you know, and even some of

768
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 5: the teams in the NFL too, I mean not Kansas City.

769
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: Kansas City seems to always, you know, have that clutch gene.

770
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: But I'm finding more and more with some of these

771
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: modern professional sports teams that I seem to bring it

772
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: every day.

773
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: You've seen it, like, and that's when they have to

774
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: have the clutch gene against teams that you wouldn't necessarily

775
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: think they'd need it, you know. And the Celtics did

776
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: the same thing. Like they went through the playoffs and

777
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: it was a breeze every series, but they were these

778
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: closer than you would have thought games, you know, ideal

779
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: the Indiana series, Indiana stinks and they were missing their

780
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: best player and here they are like three or the

781
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: four games are going down to the last possession, you know,

782
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: but they were better. And that's what Kansas City I

783
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: think did the other night. They just found a way

784
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: to win because they were a little bit better and

785
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: they got the lucky break with the no pass interference

786
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: at the end, And I don't think that that's insignificant.

787
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: That's part of it. That's part of it.

788
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: I just think like teams like the Patriots back in

789
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: the day had killers like Brady or will you know,

790
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 5: just guys that you knew they were locked in every

791
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 5: single night and they were making sure everybody else was

792
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 5: locked in. And I just I'm having a hard time

793
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: finding a lot of teams like that right now in

794
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: modern sports. Like I mean, I don't know what your

795
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 5: experience like watching the Celtics game in and game out,

796
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: if there are.

797
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: Games where you're just like, what is why are they?

798
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: Like?

799
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: This isn't them? You know, I think those games happen

800
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 4: more frequently.

801
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 7: I would say last season for the Celtics, not as much.

802
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: We're definitely no, we're talking about an NFL. It's an

803
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: NFL topic.

804
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 7: I promise I didn't bring up the basketball, but I

805
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 7: don't know. It's just like also hard for me to

806
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 7: like really think they were I think the Patriots scenes

807
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 7: you're talking about were just ready to go, and they

808
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 7: just didn't look ready this week. Chalk it up to

809
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 7: maybe only having walkthroughs all week and maybe like touching

810
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 7: back on the Remandre situation we were just talking about,

811
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 7: like maybe that's why they didn't come out of the gates,

812
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 7: just pounding, Like how ready can you get when you

813
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 7: don't practice all week, it's a short week, you're traveling.

814
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm not.

815
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: And I also think there's nobody that has more respect

816
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: for like the three four Patriots than me and Fred,

817
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: you know, and we're not alone, but I'm just saying

818
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: we have a tremendous amount of respect. I think you're

819
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: forgetting some of the incredibly oddly difficult games, you know,

820
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: like going down to Miami and losing on a Monday

821
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 3: night game to a two win team late in the season,

822
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: going to Houston, first ever game against the Houston Houston Texans,

823
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: Like you find yourself in overtime against this terrible team.

824
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: You know, generally they found a way to win those games,

825
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: but it happens. It's hard to have, like you're full

826
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: throttle for seventeen games. Is that the Ben Watson who

827
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: was Daniel Graham Daniel Graham tying touchdown right right on

828
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: a fourth down at the end of the game.

829
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: I guess I knew it was.

830
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: It was a tight end, that's all I know.

831
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: If it's in their first maybe I'm spoiled.

832
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: To you want to really get get into it. In overtime,

833
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: Houston took over. I want to say on the Patriots,

834
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: like thirty five yard line, like basically already in field

835
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: goal range to win, and the Patriots knocked him out

836
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: of field goal range. That's like the clutch.

837
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: Gene they And this was also the birth of the

838
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: nod where you would have like a field goal. There

839
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: was no nod that day, but like there was a

840
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: field goal in the first possession of the game.

841
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: You could just tell it.

842
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: You could just tell by the way Johnson opening kickoff

843
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: against Cleveland.

844
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: I'm done.

845
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 7: Now when you forget stuff with like your wife and

846
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 7: your family do they pull this up and they're like,

847
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 7: we know you have a good memory.

848
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 5: I can't remember the two thousand and four Patriots, no problem,

849
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 5: But you didn't get bread at the store.

850
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: You're listening in my house Monday night?

851
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: What am I doing?

852
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: It's like five minutes in. I was like, what did

853
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: I do?

854
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: What am I even husband together?

855
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: How did I get into walked right into it? So stupid?

856
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: I was so like, no, we were just sort of correlating,

857
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: like bringing it you know, bringing the intensity level like

858
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: was Mike was saying, like a lot of people have

859
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: asked him, do you think Thursday night for the Patriots,

860
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: was that what they are or was that an outlier?

861
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well you figure, you know, you wonder we see

862
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: jirod Mayo at the press conferences and he's pretty low

863
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: key guy, right, you know, but being a linebacker, being

864
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: from the defensive side of the ball, you wonder behind

865
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: the scenes if he's like, you know this week really

866
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: you know.

867
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, locked in, yeah, and serious.

868
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of those guys have that

869
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: side of I mean, I've seen plenty of guys that.

870
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you hear a lot of hockey ers like, oh,

871
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 5: nicest guy in the world, but you get on the

872
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: ice and it's like, you know, yeah, wants to kill

873
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 5: somebody for no reason, you know, alf Samuel cent or so.

874
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: You wonder that if they come out fired up, if

875
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: they know at least they're running around, you know, on

876
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: the on the defensive side of the ball, running around

877
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: to the ball and and you know, tackling well.

878
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: And I wonder it's it's a San Francisco's where they're like,

879
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: here come the Patriots, Like you know, ten point favorite,

880
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 5: It's like, are they are they going to be able

881
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: to bring it? I mean there, I have all the

882
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 5: respect in the world for that team.

883
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: Why I think it's such a bad thing that they

884
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: lost that game to the Rams.

885
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: Right, They're they're not going to have that.

886
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well if they do, and there's some they have

887
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: some trouble there because I know that they've I know

888
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: they missing a boatload of talent. I'm not dismissing the

889
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: amount of quality players that aren't playing. But if you

890
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: can't like sort of refocus and come come, come forth

891
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: with a better effort when you're one in two and

892
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: you and you have Super Bowl aspirations, like Baltimore played

893
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: a pretty desperate game, I would say in Dallas, you know,

894
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: at zero and two, they recognize the urgency of the situation.

895
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't play great for sixty minutes. They

896
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: were sloppy in the fourth quarter, but I thought the

897
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: the urgency was apparent when you watch the game physical

898
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: Ravens football, right, I would expect to see that from

899
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco because they're one in two. You can't you

900
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: just can't lose all these games early in the season.

901
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: Especially and not to us.

902
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no disrespect to anybody.

903
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: But it was like in their division right now and

904
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: oho right, yes, the Rams are you know, playing.

905
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 9: A little better.

906
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, for whatever it's worth.

907
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: So they're going to be in a dogfight. Everyone is critical.

908
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Robin the UK writes in on Wednesday show, Paul said

909
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: something that I've been thinking about, and that is the

910
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: roster that we have is not a good one and

911
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: that it falls unbuilt. I don't see many players on

912
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: ours that other teams would really look at and say

913
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: this player will make our starting line up better. There

914
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: may be a few that will strengthen teams, but we

915
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't get much in trade capital for them in my

916
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: opinion anyway. Okay, on more of a statement than a

917
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: question on Drake May. If they are setting up an

918
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: alternative playbook for him, how does that affect the other

919
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: players on offense? Won't everyone then have to learn a

920
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: new playbook? Well that was you know we were talking

921
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: about that. You know, how different would the offense look

922
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: once May gets in there? And if they are doing that,

923
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: like I said, it's going to be tough on all

924
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: the players, like they're out there, you know.

925
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's more they would call some

926
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: different plays. Maybe that May is you know, more suited

927
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: for But back to Alex van Pelt today, I thought

928
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Karen Grigian asked a really good question about sort of

929
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: do you tailor your system to your quarterback or does

930
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: your quarterback have to you have to get up to

931
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: speed on your system and Alex very unequivocally yes, word,

932
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: good word, And I'm gonna use my Jacoby present unequivocally

933
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: did I say that?

934
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 11: Right?

935
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Is that the right word?

936
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: What is it? Quivocally?

937
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: Is that the right word? Which he makes me laugh

938
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: every single time he does that.

939
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: He knows, like you know this, come on.

940
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 3: Of course it's always right. So obviously he knows the word.

941
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: He just has fun with it. So so Van Pelt said,

942
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, very strongly know you if you have a

943
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: run and shoot quarterback, you run the run and shoot

944
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: like you can't just you know, put a square peg

945
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: in a round hole. But what I wanted there was

946
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: a follow up. You know, so do you feel like

947
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 3: you have two guys in Brissette in May that are

948
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: well suited for your system or do you think there's

949
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: differences between what those two guys do.

950
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: But nobody.

951
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Paul got very mad right out.

952
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 5: You know someone I think Chris Price jumped in with

953
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: another question, Paul is, well, last thing, you know.

954
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: Like I understand, like seventy fifth? How many fumbles? Does

955
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 3: Mermander Stevenson have a question of the week?

956
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: No, I understand. Like you go into a press conference

957
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: prepared with a question that you want to ask something,

958
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: hopefully based on something you want to write, but you

959
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: need to call an audible sometimes, like if there's you

960
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: need to listen to what he's saying and follow up.

961
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: They don't do that.

962
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: And that is what makes the job hard. Yeah, because

963
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: you can't script everything. You have to react.

964
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: Do they teach you that in Jay school?

965
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's not what the answers are.

966
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 5: But how to I mean, how to how to craft questions,

967
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: you know, and how to Yeah.

968
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: And I'm not good at it all. And you you

969
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: got to bear a witness to me being a moron today.

970
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: I didn't know you're going to bring up.

971
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: Very very rare for you know, one on one.

972
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how I like to sort of pull

973
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: front of my colleagues from time to time. Well, I'm

974
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: calling myself out today for being an idiot. I was

975
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: talking to Drew Wilkins, who's the outside linebackers coach, and

976
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: I was sort of asking more inside linebacker, really good questions,

977
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: you know, just.

978
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: In your defense. They gabble kind of and it seems

979
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: like they're all kind of well.

980
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: I kind of looked at Tavai as a guy that

981
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: probably you know, you know, has some responsibilities in both

982
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: Dante high Tower inside and Drew Wilkins outside, but really

983
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: not and I kind of you know, and I he

984
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: couldn't have been better. Drew Wilkins couldn't have speak he was.

985
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: He was like really nice and I joked around. I

986
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: think Mike caught the end of it. I sort of.

987
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 12: Prefaced my question saying I can't believe if I work

988
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 12: with this guy.

989
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: But I prefaced it by saying, like, you know, I

990
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: don't pretend to know all the exits and nos. I

991
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: don't carry myself like like one of those guys. And

992
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: then when he started answering the question, and I immediately

993
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: read like he goes like, that's kind of more of

994
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: a question for Dante, and I look, I said, hey,

995
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: I told you I wasn't an.

996
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: Alternate inside outside linebacker.

997
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: What's the difference.

998
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't get it. I'm just a cave man.

999
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was. That's I like to I like

1000
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: to think I'm better than that, but I'm a more

1001
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: on today.

1002
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I was in on high tower and

1003
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: somebody asked him about to buy and I had probably.

1004
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Would have been good to you.

1005
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: Because he talked about him, you know, being that adjuster

1006
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: role as they call it, going from off the ball

1007
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: to the edge. And I followed up and just said,

1008
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: you're somebody who did both of those, what was the

1009
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 5: hardest part.

1010
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: Of going back and forth?

1011
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 5: And he had, you know, good question, good response, talking

1012
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 5: about the difficulty of having to get guys lined up,

1013
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: and you know, there's a lot more on the plate

1014
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: when you when you move inside and have to run

1015
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 5: the defense like that.

1016
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: My only saving graces I was by myself. Okay, so

1017
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: I didn't I risk myself in front of the tree

1018
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: was there. But you know, in true Paul fashion, I'm

1019
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: accountable when I do moronic things, I tell you that

1020
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm wrong there. I came in, I called myself out

1021
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: to Alex and Evan, hundreds of thousands of people that

1022
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: are listening, and I'm admitting and it is not the

1023
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: best question.

1024
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 9: Yea.

1025
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: I was surprised when I walk in there. I saw

1026
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 5: you and juw like it seemed like you were you

1027
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: had a private party going on there.

1028
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 4: I was gonna just like, hey, what's up. I had

1029
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 4: to duck out.

1030
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Well.

1031
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: I talked to Jerry Montgomery a little bit about some

1032
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: of the stuff that you and I have been talking

1033
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: about with just like depth, and I think opponents adjusting

1034
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: to that and sort of going hurry up to keep

1035
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: personnel on the field and stuff like that. Uh, those

1036
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: were good questions and answered well by Jerry Montgomery.

1037
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1038
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: I thought it took kinda a good question, which I

1039
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: didn't realize saying that a quality and Godshaw played like

1040
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: career high snaps in that game is another.

1041
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: So I actually my first question when I said, I said,

1042
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to sort of get back to what Doug

1043
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: was talking about, and that's what was my jumping off

1044
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: point because I agreed with that, and they can't want

1045
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: Gotcha to be a three down player, and that's what

1046
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: he's been a lot of the time, especially the last

1047
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: two games with Seattle and New York going with no huddle.

1048
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: A lot.

1049
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: A lot of emailers preaching patients, which I think is

1050
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 2: great because Mat, Yeah, it's about Matt.

1051
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: I thought we were talking about I thought we were

1052
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: talking about the team, and I were Actually I would

1053
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: already agree. I would woheartily agree.

1054
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: About to adjust the show playbook for the for the players.

1055
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: I think we already have money.

1056
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: I think we already But anyway, Ford and Savannah says,

1057
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: I'm encouraged by the direction the team is taking. Throw

1058
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: out the win lost column. This season. The Patriots have

1059
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: a head coach and a quarterback. The right moves were

1060
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: made with an inherited roster, as has been stated on

1061
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: your show. If this offense can be adjusted to fit

1062
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: May a little more, I think it will work. Scheme wise,

1063
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: the team just needs time to build through the draft

1064
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: and develop players. The other way got them to the

1065
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: first round in the playoffs ten and seven, then a

1066
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: quick decline. This is the right way to build for

1067
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: the future, as much as it might not look great currently.

1068
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're right. I'm gonna play the other

1069
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: side of that, just real quickly. So I would agree

1070
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: with preaching patients because I don't think this is like

1071
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: a five year rebuild. I think they're starting to rebuild.

1072
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: Now I think that they're sort of taking a new path.

1073
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 9: You have a new.

1074
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: Quarterback in terms of the over like that to me

1075
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: is an overly optimistic look at things like, Yes, they

1076
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: went out and signed a bunch of guys in twenty

1077
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: twenty one. I didn't agree with it at the time,

1078
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: and I said so at the time, and I understand

1079
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: that you get that bump. But they also had a

1080
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: quarterback that you all thought was the guy. They drafted

1081
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback, and he was a rookie quarterback they plugged in. Yeah,

1082
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: and then if this was week four, week five of

1083
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, everybody was said, well, they have the quarterback, right, Yep,

1084
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: they didn't have the quarterback. So I don't know how

1085
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: you know you have the quarterback now when he hasn't played.

1086
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair, right.

1087
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: Like again, I'm all for preaching patients. I think that's

1088
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: the right the right move. But I don't know that

1089
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: they have a coach in a quarterback, right, I have

1090
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: no idea.

1091
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: That's the fun part of not playing him is you

1092
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: don't know. You don't know. Maybe he's in the best

1093
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: quarterback that might play the game.

1094
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: I think that might be part of it.

1095
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1096
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 5: But now and you know, now you get Jayden Daniels

1097
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 5: who has his game, and you know, now he's going

1098
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: to be the next Patrick Mahomes until he's not, until

1099
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 5: you know, he has a bad game, and you know

1100
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 5: they'd be ups and downs.

1101
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying.

1102
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 5: I just going back to the Bill and the talented

1103
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: He's just like they're not a star players on this thing.

1104
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: Like they just didn't find stars. And like I was

1105
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 5: okay with the off season and you know, signing some

1106
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 5: of the middle class and maintaining you know, some of

1107
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 5: that continuity. But to me, it was just the lack

1108
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: of guys that you know, you never had another Edelman

1109
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: hit from the seventh round. You know, that's that's an

1110
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: extreme example. But even you know, Gronk, a guy that

1111
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 5: you took a chance on, was you know, had some

1112
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: injury concerns, was kind of a meat ball when he

1113
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 5: came in here, but ended up being the greatest.

1114
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: Tight end of all time. Those moves dried up, they

1115
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: stopped happening, and it was.

1116
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: An underrated part of the Bill losing the touch. Like

1117
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: every guy that he sort of rolled the dice on,

1118
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: you know, there was a good amount of them. They

1119
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: all they almost all hit. Then all of a sudden,

1120
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: they just, you know, all of a sudden, We're going

1121
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: to take Dominic Easley in the first round. Even though

1122
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: he tore his a cl twice. He'll be healthy for us,

1123
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: right except where he wasn't you know?

1124
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 5: It was kind of the start of it in that

1125
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: fourteen range. And I mean they had, you know, look

1126
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 5: Joe Toney, which still makes me sick. That was the

1127
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: beginning of the get away.

1128
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 4: But after him, you know, who are who are really

1129
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 4: the start? There are a lot of you know, good

1130
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: some good players for sure.

1131
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: But not the Gronk, the Edelman's, the you know, the

1132
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: high Towers, the Chandler Jones, Chandler.

1133
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: See you got that good? Yeah, I'm working on it.

1134
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm working with the coach on that.

1135
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: Yep, Jake writes ins Chucklets writing into Express, how happy

1136
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: I am to hear Van Pelt say he would be

1137
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: tailoring the offense to the quarterback.

1138
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1139
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to see what the kid has.

1140
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: As long as he just shows enough flash to maybe

1141
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: attract some free agents. Slash give confidence to the front

1142
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: office to go after a guy like Metcalf with our

1143
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: second pick, I'll be very happy with the season.

1144
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 5: I think that's the push and pull right now, is

1145
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 5: there's a belief out there, you know, for whatever reason,

1146
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: that Alex van Pelt is stuck in an old system.

1147
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: He's rigid in his ways and he will not adapt

1148
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: and that is why he hasn't got an offensive coordinator

1149
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 5: job until now. And you know, when you hear from

1150
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: Alex van Pelt, what he says is that, you know,

1151
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: he seems like he's willing to be flexible. But that's

1152
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: kind of the push and pull right now that people

1153
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: don't trust Alex van Pelt to do different than what

1154
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: he has been doing.

1155
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: So he's going to have to prove it with with

1156
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 4: Drake Man.

1157
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I mean, you'd have to be beyond

1158
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: stubborn to not have a guy that you pick third

1159
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: overall and say, Okay, here's what he's good at, this

1160
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: is what we're gonna do. You know what. I can't

1161
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: imagine that that would be his mindset to be anything

1162
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: but that. But anyway, we'll see maybe as soon as

1163
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd? Hey, Todd?

1164
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: Todd is not there from North Carolina.

1165
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: Do you guys know where this footage is from?

1166
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: It looks like one of the nobody knows what you're

1167
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: talking about. Min's like one of our Miami trips.

1168
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: Miami, nobody knows what you're talking about.

1169
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: Scott so swimming pool.

1170
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: We've got a monitor in the in the watching studio

1171
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: show Bertrand and it's got a picture of Zola.

1172
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've been in that pool.

1173
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, where that's what the play.

1174
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: I think that's the one of the places that we've

1175
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: stayed down there. I don't know if it's Lauderdale or

1176
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: outside for Miami.

1177
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: Yancy Jacket and Arvices. I drive a twenty five year

1178
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: old car. It has one hundred and sixty seven thousand

1179
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: miles on no rust. I replaced the engine once. I

1180
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: have no plans to buy a new car anytime soon.

1181
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: Any economists will tell you that the cheapest car to

1182
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: own is the one you already own.

1183
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 4: Amen, I've a lot three car.

1184
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: That's why I have two hundred and fifty thousand miles

1185
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: on my car. It's cheap.

1186
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 4: I got one twenty ish. Yeah, I've only had three

1187
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: cars my whole life.

1188
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 7: Me too, that's it.

1189
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: That's it. Three cars in your life.

1190
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, this is my fourth. I'm a little older

1191
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: than you, so I.

1192
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 7: Would probably still be on my first car, honestly, if

1193
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 7: my mom didn't total it on me my first year

1194
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 7: at college.

1195
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: Wow, you're total She told it on me.

1196
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 7: And then I had to buy myself a new one.

1197
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

1198
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: And then she kicked you off your phone.

1199
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 7: They kicked me off the phone plan too.

1200
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the phone plan.

1201
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 7: That just happened.

1202
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 9: It's a new development in.

1203
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: The locker room. And Alex was like, it's just I

1204
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 4: don't know what.

1205
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 7: The days come independent.

1206
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: So that's the thing. I can kick my kids off

1207
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: the phone point.

1208
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 7: I guess well too, for it took my stepdad twenty

1209
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: nine years for me, So.

1210
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 4: I have my dad on my my plan now.

1211
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: So maybe maybe we'll come put you on his poem.

1212
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 10: Remember Rocky Rakovic, Yes, you just emailed in everyone's emailing

1213
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 10: in all the greats.

1214
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Rocky went from intern here to Playboy.

1215
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: Editor Playboy Yeah wow, yeah, another one who left me

1216
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 3: behind that, he says.

1217
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: This summer, it seemed as if some free agents and

1218
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: trade targets were reticent to come to Foxboro because of

1219
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: the uncertainty surrounded do you think the first few weeks

1220
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: have improved our chances of attracting talent? Also, for let's

1221
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: go back to Edward's steakhouse. It wasn't Edwards. It was Arthur's.

1222
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: And I think they're closed. I don't think they.

1223
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Opened up because you go to Arthur's Rocky Yeah, oh yeah,

1224
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: how'd that happen?

1225
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: I met him there. Oh, I was in town and

1226
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: we met up.

1227
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: I've actually been to Arthur's.

1228
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: It was great, great.

1229
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: Where was it was?

1230
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: Arthur's was when if When I first started going, they

1231
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 2: had two things on the menu with twenty four ounce

1232
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: rabbi and a forty eight ounce rabbi.

1233
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: That's it steak or more a flag and like a

1234
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: wedge the wet salad.

1235
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: They had beer, like two pints of beer. It was

1236
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: like a great American carriage. Closed. Yeah, closed. Yeah.

1237
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: Their menu was just to.

1238
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: Arteries.

1239
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: It's like it sounds like the cheeseburger place, like steak, steak, steak,

1240
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 4: steak Betsy.

1241
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: We went with Scalavino once and he ordered his steak.

1242
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: Well died, I said to the before. I said to

1243
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: the waiter, we're gonna need a moment and then I turned,

1244
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: I said, you are not ordering a well done steak.

1245
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: If you want, you get a hamburger if you well,

1246
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: you know.

1247
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 5: So Dad telling me, wait, that was before he went

1248
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 5: to Vega, before he went vegan or vegetable.

1249
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: Was before he went vegan.

1250
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: That must have been after and I up traveling because

1251
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why you would have been with Eric

1252
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: and not us.

1253
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: Eric was there. One of the first times we went

1254
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: was with Mike Reese and he ate so much he

1255
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 2: threw up in the bathroom. It was like a Roman orgy, you.

1256
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 4: Know, because he went with a forty eight out steak.

1257
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 3: Oh, we were sure he didn't go with the forty

1258
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: eight ouncer we went with.

1259
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: We went with a from the old BCN you know

1260
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: before it was nine eight point five PC and had

1261
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: the it was the rock radio, Patriots Rock Radio. And

1262
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: this guy one of the engineers, uh, Mike, I.

1263
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 3: Think his name was Mike Perry.

1264
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: No, No, not not Mike Perry before him.

1265
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I know you was the big guy. Oh.

1266
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 10: Anyway, he had the wedge salad, French onion soup, the

1267
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 10: forty eight ounce steak of which he ate all of it, cheesecake,

1268
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 10: and two huge beers.

1269
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't have done the cheesecake.

1270
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: He ate the whole I couldn't believe it.

1271
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: I would not have been able to get the cheesecake down,

1272
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: but the rest of that I could.

1273
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 4: Have taken on cheesecakes filling by itself.

1274
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 5: I mean the French office is by that point like

1275
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: who was forcing them at the end.

1276
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: It's not like a little cup. It's like a big

1277
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: bowl of French on your suit with the bread.

1278
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 7: Over it, then the cheese on top of me out.

1279
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: So just to you know, go back to Rockies email there,

1280
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: I would say that not yet. I don't think that

1281
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: they've made themselves more attractive at this point. The offense

1282
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 3: has been pretty dormant. I don't think that wide receivers

1283
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: are looking at what's going on in New England and

1284
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: saying I want to be part of that. But there's

1285
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: a whole lot of season left. You get Drake May

1286
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: out there. He shows some promise that can change in

1287
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: a hurry. Yep, back to Todd. He's calling back in.

1288
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: Oh He's calling back in Okay. Todd's giving it another

1289
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: tribe in North Carolina.

1290
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 9: You got me yea.

1291
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 13: So at this end of the year. I called it

1292
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 13: in and said I could see them being.

1293
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 14: There, you know, almost around five and eight. So just thinking,

1294
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 14: I find out what you guys thought about your prediction

1295
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 14: for what the team's record would be now that you've

1296
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 14: seen three games, you know kind of the good, the bad,

1297
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 14: and the ugly.

1298
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So has you know before the season, I thought

1299
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: they'd win six games. That was the ceiling, you know, I.

1300
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: Would have agreed with that.

1301
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: Has anybody changed four to six? I don't know if

1302
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: that changed.

1303
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't really changed. I will I

1304
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: will say, you know, the Miami situation has changed. I

1305
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: think that the game next week, Week five has a

1306
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: drastically different look without Tua. Yeah, that's a winnable game that,

1307
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: in my opinion, probably wasn't sure. But you know, it

1308
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're gonna win it, right, You gotta you

1309
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: gotta go out and play. But I I had them

1310
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: with one win going to London. Now I think it's

1311
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: probably going to be two because I think they're gonna

1312
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: be Miami. I think they will be hard pressed to

1313
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: win this week. Sorry, if given that away, it's a

1314
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: little early, give another half out, half an hour and

1315
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: then I think they'll have a hard time with Houston

1316
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: before London. But the London game itself is another game

1317
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: that looks a lot more manageable now than it did

1318
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: probably before the season.

1319
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 5: Chargers Bills still look they'll still look really tough at

1320
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: the end.

1321
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm somewhere in there.

1322
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: Arizona looks more difficult in my opinion anyway than it

1323
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: did at the beginning of the year.

1324
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1325
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: I think the next two weeks are critical, I really do.

1326
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: I think you have to play well this week, even

1327
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: if you don't win, you have to play well and

1328
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: then maybe pull off if you don't look good these

1329
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: next two weeks. Forget about six wins is the ceiling,

1330
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: you know.

1331
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: I still think six possible.

1332
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: I do too, Like I do too, But I think

1333
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: these next two weeks will be telling.

1334
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: But I think like Tennessee, you should win. Indianapolis you'll

1335
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: have a chance to win, you should win that.

1336
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: I think.

1337
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: I think the Miami game, for you know, with Tim

1338
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: Boyle playing quarterback in the game so much, he's the

1339
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: saggerating he's the worst quarterback that's ever played in the NFL. Like,

1340
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's four wins right there, and you haven't

1341
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: had to upset anybody to do that. Like you're gonna

1342
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: upset someone like you did Cincinnati. That's gonna happen too.

1343
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think you might live.

1344
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Six is a ceiling.

1345
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still Carmine and Connecticut writes in first time

1346
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: emailer thank you, He says, I don't know if I can.

1347
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: I can live with the changes with the email and

1348
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 2: the phone, but as we learn, change can be good

1349
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: when it's time, such as Bill in the New Studio.

1350
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: I think the overreaction to Drake may needing to play

1351
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: is unnecessary and overblown. I think I can speak for

1352
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: everyone when I say I can't wait, would love to

1353
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: see him play, and I'm excited for his first start.

1354
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: I like Week five against the Dolphins or in London

1355
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: with a more neutral, slash kind of home environment. My

1356
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: paison Paul's comment on Drake playing in the Jets game

1357
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 2: games being the most exciting part of the season so far.

1358
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: I see prom us in his development in the throat

1359
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: to Douglas with his pocket movement. I was there and

1360
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: I will never return to that swamp again. I'm concerned

1361
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: that when he does play, our scheme doesn't fit his

1362
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: play style. I can remember Fred being adamant on utilizing

1363
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: our players superpowers, and I don't know if I see

1364
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: that across the board with on when U a tackle,

1365
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: poke on an end around, John Jones on the outside,

1366
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Dougar Pepper's deep safety, and May playing under center. I

1367
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: agree with Michelle's Oh, Michelle's h the one I Charlotta.

1368
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: I agree with Charlotta's O line, but want Robinson at

1369
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: left guard. It makes the most sense when planning for

1370
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: next season and plugging in the left tackle. That must

1371
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: be first priority next season. So good email.

1372
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 5: I like how he ran down a lot of stuff,

1373
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: a lot of guys, you know, maybe not playing to

1374
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 5: their strengths as much as you might like.

1375
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 9: I like that.

1376
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: Listen. You know City Soal was also a recent draft

1377
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: pick too, and he's I put him on the one

1378
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: of the young people. He's definitely right if he can

1379
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: work out a guard. I'm fine with that, you know, yeah,

1380
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: you know, sure.

1381
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: No, I think that's to me, like when we talk

1382
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 5: about what the win totals like, is I just get

1383
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 5: the offensive line right, like, just get some stability. I mean,

1384
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 5: they the coaches continue to tell us that they.

1385
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: Think it'll get better.

1386
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'm gonna hopefully trust that, and you know,

1387
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 5: if it does get better, I think then then we

1388
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 5: are starting to talk about you know, four or five,

1389
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 5: six wins. But it's just hard to see it right

1390
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 5: now when they can't even roll the same line out

1391
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 5: two weeks in a row.

1392
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 7: That's the thing. Injuries are just so brutal on top

1393
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 7: of inexperience. So they'll gain experience, but you just you

1394
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 7: got to get everyone healthy. It's so paramount.

1395
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people were talking about this and

1396
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: we should spend a little time on it. Trevor Wrights in,

1397
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: can we discuss how Robert Kraft said on Live TV

1398
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: he picked Yourrodmeyo to be the next head coach five

1399
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: years ago. Five years ago was before he was even

1400
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: an assistant coach, and he picked him because they had

1401
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: a good vacation together. I don't love that. Yeah, I

1402
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: mean a lot of people picked up on that comment.

1403
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't much different than the comment he made at

1404
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: the day that Gerard became that he had tabbed him

1405
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: five years ago to be the heir apparent in his mind,

1406
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: like he saw a lot of leadership in him. That

1407
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: doesn't mean like five years ago that it was a

1408
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: done deal. But I think that's who he identified at

1409
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: the time, and things could have changed five years after.

1410
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: Apparently they didn't because he ended up naming him head coach.

1411
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: But I, like, I don't have any problem on the

1412
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: face of it, like saying, this is a guy that

1413
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: can be our next head coach, and then over the

1414
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: next five years he makes that instinct, you know, you

1415
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: know he gets reinforcement of that instinct.

1416
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it's how much did Robert know about Gerard

1417
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: to that point, probably knew him as a player, hadn't

1418
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 5: seen him in a few years, and you know, maybe

1419
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 5: seeing him outside of the context of football kind of

1420
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: shine a new light on him.

1421
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: But I kind of took it the way you did.

1422
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that's it, he's my guy, Like it's like, yeah,

1423
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: I think there's maybe something about this guy. I'm going

1424
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 4: to keep that.

1425
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 7: It got picked apart on Twitter as if it had

1426
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 7: been a five year plot to get Girad And it's like,

1427
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 7: if you're running a multi billion dollar corporation, I'm hiring

1428
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 7: twenty four to seven, Like I'm constantly looking out for

1429
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 7: good people I can bring in and help me run

1430
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 7: that organization. It's just that's how billionaires think.

1431
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: You have to have a succession plan.

1432
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I do think that he identified

1433
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: him as the successor. He did, but I don't have

1434
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: enough information. I need to know why.

1435
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 7: And he still was in his seventies.

1436
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no not why not? Why do

1437
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 3: you needed a succession plan. I totally age everything you

1438
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: just said. I like it. I'm picking some stuff up.

1439
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: I need to know why he picked Grod five years ago.

1440
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: What in this trip to Israel to Gerard do that

1441
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: led him to believe this is my successor. He hasn't

1442
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: really gotten.

1443
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: Into go together.

1444
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true.

1445
01:03:59,560 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

1446
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: But identifying a guy and you know, saying okay, I

1447
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: can see him being my next head coach.

1448
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 3: That makes sense. Yeah, you know. He talked a lot

1449
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: about he sort of did that with Bill Belichick back

1450
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: in ninety six. He didn't follow his instinct and always

1451
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: regretted it.

1452
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Yep. He thought it was too close to Parcels. And

1453
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: I remember that on the day that Carol, not Carol,

1454
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: but on the day that Parcells left, Kraft drove out

1455
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: in a car with Belichick to have a conversation and

1456
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure. In the car, he said, you know, I

1457
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: really like you, but I just can't pull the trigger

1458
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: now because I got to get away from the shadow

1459
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: of Bill Parcells.

1460
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, got he got the tingle this time, and

1461
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 4: he didn't he didn't hesitate.

1462
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: Well then, you know, like you talk about Dot hesitating.

1463
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: When the time came and Carol left, he fought the

1464
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: Jets and the league to allow to free him up,

1465
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: and he spent the first round draft picks. So he

1466
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 2: was committed that.

1467
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 5: And it reminds me a little bit of the stupid

1468
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 5: Packer way. But it's kind of exactly what Ron Wolf

1469
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 5: did with Brett Farv. Like, he had a plan, he

1470
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 5: knew what he wanted, he knew what he wanted his

1471
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 5: team to look like, he knew who he wanted to

1472
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 5: be his quarterback. A little different than head coach, but

1473
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 5: same kind of deal. And you know, it was aggressive

1474
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: and went out and tried to make that plan happen.

1475
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just like that.

1476
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 5: I've talked to Paul a little bit about my experience

1477
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 5: in Hollywood was always like the best TV shows were

1478
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 5: run by one guy who had a crazy vision, and

1479
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: he might be nuts and he might be mean to

1480
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 5: people sometimes, but if you follow that one person's vision,

1481
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 5: you let that guy.

1482
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 4: Run with it, you're going to catch something special.

1483
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 5: Whereas some shows you'd have a lot of executives involved,

1484
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 5: you had, you know, this person who is just promoted,

1485
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 5: they're twenty seven years old, they're now the manager of

1486
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 5: development at CBS, and they're sitting in front of Chuck

1487
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: Laurie and they have to give them notes. You know,

1488
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: Chuck Lurie wasn't going to take those notes, but other

1489
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 5: people would take those notes. And I just like, I mean, it's,

1490
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: you know, kind of that cliche of like the strong leader.

1491
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 5: But a lot of times in entertainment and in sports,

1492
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 5: when you've got a crazy mad man who said I'm

1493
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: going to do it my way and everyone else get

1494
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 5: out of the way, sometimes those are that's when you

1495
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 5: really catch magic. So I just I hope that this

1496
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: Patriots team hat finds a little bit of that. And

1497
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 5: isn't we hear so much about collaborative which is fine,

1498
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: and I think it's nice in retrospect after what they

1499
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 5: went through with Bill, that they wanted that to be

1500
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 5: a theme. But at the same time, I think Andy Reid,

1501
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 5: you know, some of these really special things that happen.

1502
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's just you've got to let a mad man

1503
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: run with it, and it's not always going to be smooth.

1504
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 5: Like I said, a lot of time, those guys were

1505
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: mean and they were dicks to people at Hurwitz.

1506
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but this isn't a This isn't a

1507
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: sport for waffling. You need a strong leader. You need

1508
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: someone who believes in himself, believes in his convictions, and

1509
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: can get other people to follow. You've got a locker

1510
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: room full of alphas.

1511
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

1512
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: These are all guys who were studs in college and

1513
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: they were alphas, and they know when a coach is

1514
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: and being authentic and isn't sure of themselves, and they

1515
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: don't want to follow that because it's their career. They

1516
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: want to win. They want to be put in positions

1517
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: to succeed, and that depends on their coaching. So believe me,

1518
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: you know when I say that, You know these guys

1519
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: have to they have to be strong and tough these coaches,

1520
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: because these guys aren't going to listen to to week.

1521
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: You know, two weak people.

1522
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 5: And it helps for them to look to one person

1523
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 5: who has the answers. I mean, I think that was

1524
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: part of what Bill you know, did with a small staff.

1525
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if it totally worked. At

1526
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 5: the end, he kind of lost too many people, and

1527
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 5: I think, you know, there were just too few guys.

1528
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 5: But you know, when you have one guy to look

1529
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 5: to and you know what the answer is going to be,

1530
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: whereas you know, this coach might give me one answer,

1531
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: this coach might give me another answer.

1532
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing, you know, Like with the

1533
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: last three years, it was just it was, you know,

1534
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: we make fun of Mac, but like, yeah, I think

1535
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: it was a valid question. Why why are you doing this?

1536
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: Like what have you done to prove? What have you

1537
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia and you know whoever else done to prove

1538
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: that this is going to work? You know, Josh mc

1539
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: daniels has was a proven offensive coordinator and you're changing everything,

1540
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: Like why? Yeah, it was a fair question.

1541
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 5: And a guy like Kendrick Bourne, who's you know, been

1542
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 5: in the system of that everyone holds up on the

1543
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 5: pedestal in San Francisco and you know that's it's a

1544
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 5: hard position. I mean, I imagine as a coach, it's

1545
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: hard to like look at a player and be like,

1546
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 5: I can't give this guy the same information he got

1547
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: somewhere else. That other guy's just way more experience than

1548
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: I am. And that's I think what all the coaches

1549
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 5: fear is that the players aren't going to buy into

1550
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: what you're selling or they don't think you know what

1551
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 5: you're talking about.

1552
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 4: It's got to be the worst place to be.

1553
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: Is it. Well, And you know, you have to be

1554
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: true to yourself, you have to be authentic. Matt Patricia

1555
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 2: famously went to Detroit and started laying down the lumber

1556
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: and making them, you know, and showing off his rings

1557
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: and all that, and guys are like, you've never been

1558
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: a headcut? What are you doing there? You know, it

1559
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: just didn't work. They could tell that's not who he is.

1560
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's he's you know, I mean, say what

1561
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 5: you will about Gerad and you could probably say he's

1562
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 5: gone too far the other way.

1563
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: But he certainly isn't trying to be bill like.

1564
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: You know that well, as long as he's being him,

1565
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: you know, when times get like you could say times

1566
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: are tough, but when when he's challenged, as long as

1567
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't change who he is, then he has a

1568
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,839
Speaker 2: chance to succeed. But if you start changing personalities depending

1569
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: on you know, which way the wind's blowing. Players see

1570
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: right through that. They see right through that.

1571
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 5: You don't really get a sense of it till the

1572
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 5: hard times happen and the controversies, and you know, we've

1573
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 5: seen it a little bit here there, one and two.

1574
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: But and that was that was Bill's. That was one

1575
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: of his gifts. He never rode the waves.

1576
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 5: Some of the losses he seemed a little bit more pissed,

1577
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna admit, But overall it was it was just

1578
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 5: the same thing today.

1579
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: If you're a player, you could count on how he

1580
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: was going to be. He was going to be fair,

1581
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: and he was going to be consistent. You know, Matt

1582
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: and Pittsfield, rights in Pittsfield, Maine.

1583
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 4: Shout out. He's really you know, trips out to Pittsfield.

1584
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: I've been listening out. I've been listening since I needed

1585
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: closure after the seven Super Bowl loss. Oh jeez, I

1586
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you've got it here because we're still

1587
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: pained by it. So I don't know if you get

1588
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: closure with us. We are all concerned that the free

1589
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: agent strategy is going to be the same this year

1590
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: as it was last year. I'm afraid of them not

1591
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: signing any high price free agents because that's what it

1592
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 2: seems like Green Bay Packers do, and with Elliott Wolf

1593
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: being from that tree, I'm worried that we're just going

1594
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: to try to build through the draft. Thanks have a

1595
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: good day. So it's a fair question, But my answer

1596
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: to that would be, remember the structure of the green

1597
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: Bay Packers. They don't have like that one big owner

1598
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: that They're like this public company that got grandfathered in,

1599
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know what their budget is and like

1600
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: like if they have that free money to spend the

1601
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: way you need to spend now with the cash over

1602
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: cap and all that stuff, So maybe they were hamstrung

1603
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: in terms of how much they spent.

1604
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: Are still doing this.

1605
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 5: I just I just know they went and tried to

1606
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 5: get Calvin Ridley and Brandon Ayuk, and that to me

1607
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 5: is a positive sign that they're going to add, you know,

1608
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 5: not just a receiver.

1609
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think have that pieces on it.

1610
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't think money is going to be an issue.

1611
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: I think the issue is players wanting to come here.

1612
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not necessarily saying the money is the issue,

1613
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: But I do wonder if that's not what Elliott Wolf

1614
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: wants to do now. J just makes a good counter.

1615
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 3: They at least tried it, you know, with with with

1616
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: one specific position in mind, so you know, hopefully they'll

1617
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: they'll do that again. But I agree with the emailer

1618
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: the Green Bay system was more draft and develop and yeah,

1619
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 3: you know, you don't have it. They don't have a

1620
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: lot of big price you know. I don't know how

1621
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 3: they broke the bank with Reggie White back in the

1622
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: day with that public trust, but somehow they did. But

1623
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: they don't do it that way anymore. It's it's sort

1624
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 3: of a different mentality. So I do worry about.

1625
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 5: That a little bit to the point I mean yesterday though,

1626
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 5: I just the draft is how they're going to get it.

1627
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 5: I mean, you're not going to fix left tackle, get

1628
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 5: a three down you know, edge, whatever else you're gonna

1629
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 5: need along the line. We don't know who else is

1630
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 5: who's actually gonna rise.

1631
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: But that's why patience is a good word. You can't

1632
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: get everything.

1633
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 4: You got to get this.

1634
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 7: And like even if you do go sign all these

1635
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 7: like win now type players, that's not where we're at.

1636
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 3: How you do it, Someone else not where we're at.

1637
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right.

1638
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 5: And one big piece is you know I don't I mean,

1639
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 5: they go and get a big receiver next.

1640
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 7: Year is gray for locker room? Break through that room.

1641
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 4: You don't want twenty twenty one again.

1642
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: You want to really just have to hit with those

1643
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 3: high picks, like if they have another top ten pick,

1644
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 3: you have to hit you And if you have to be.

1645
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 7: Good, then what do you attract once those players are

1646
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 7: developed and start to get that momentum. I mean, not

1647
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 7: to bring up basketball again, but how many trade proposals

1648
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 7: did people want right to bring in these big free agents?

1649
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant, you name him, And really it took the

1650
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 7: Jays to reach that precipice to then they can attract Porzingis,

1651
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 7: Then you can attract Holiday they want to come play.

1652
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: I mean, and now in retrostrate to alex Is like

1653
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 5: a Celtis fan, you look back at like some of

1654
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 5: the growing.

1655
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 4: Pains, yeah, that you have with those guys.

1656
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 5: And I mean I remember people talking about, you know,

1657
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 5: which one are we going to get rid of?

1658
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 4: And you know, Marcus Smart ended up being out.

1659
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 5: But you know, it is an argument for patients and

1660
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 5: it's you know these things.

1661
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: Like Drake May getting into that game against New York.

1662
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: Not a big not a big deal, but a little

1663
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 5: piece of what you're hopefully starting to build.

1664
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you have a banged up online, but you

1665
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 7: have these rookies in Caiden and Leyden that look like

1666
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 7: they're going to be pretty promising. And maybe we'll look

1667
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 7: back and say, hey, when they were really shaky their

1668
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 7: rookie years, getting thrown into the fire, that maybe was

1669
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 7: the best thing for them.

1670
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 4: It should be a Showden.

1671
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1673
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 10: thirty minutes from Giants Stadium.

1674
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,320
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1675
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1676
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Speaker 9: With them, I don't know, it's just time.

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Speaker 13: And it's basic, look accurate for games.

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 9: To Marne and you learned looking at either yourself or

1718
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 9: your offense.

1719
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 13: Maybe you didn't last time we chat.

1720
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean obviously I'm not gonna give you the

1721
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 17: details of it, obviously because I'm sure somebody from San

1722
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Speaker 17: France watching, but uh, you know, it's a good time

1723
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 17: to like really reflect on the things that we do

1724
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 17: well as an offense, uh, you know, and and I

1725
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 17: guess honing in on the details to do those better.

1726
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 17: Uh And a lot of the other things that we're

1727
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 17: obviously trying to work on, you know, either don't do

1728
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 17: them or you know, don't work on that in practice

1729
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 17: obviously to get them better so that when it comes

1730
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 17: to the game that we're honestly better at it. Uh,

1731
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 17: but really honing in on the things that we're good at, Jacobe.

1732
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 16: You were Toobe was saying after the Jets game, I

1733
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 16: think through SACI five times, that hit ten times, he said,

1734
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 16: I always get up. How do you guard against the

1735
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 16: situation when right now do you have to take.

1736
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 9: A fresh mental approach? Do you have to.

1737
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 4: Remind yourself that going you know each game you aren't

1738
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 4: getting hit a one, So how do you prepare for that?

1739
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 9: Or is it the same just keep getting up when

1740
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 9: it comes to some.

1741
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: Of the things that you guys feel like you're doing well,

1742
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,959
Speaker 3: How do you feel about your play.

1743
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: Action game right now?

1744
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's getting better.

1745
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 17: You know we in the last game we hit pop

1746
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 17: on a big play on a play action It is

1747
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 17: obviously certain.

1748
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 9: You know we're gonna run the ball.

1749
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 17: You know, we run the ball really well, so obviously

1750
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 17: teams are gonna you know, react to our run run

1751
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 17: actions and stuff like that. So you know, it's the

1752
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 17: fourth game, so we're still getting better at it and

1753
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 17: still holding on details as far as what concepts and

1754
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 17: stuff that we like of our run actions and what

1755
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 17: you know, runs that we're all are trying to you know,

1756
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 17: give the defense elution that were running. So, you know,

1757
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 17: I think over the last couple of days, we've had

1758
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 17: a good we've done a good job of the quote

1759
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 17: unquote self scout to be able to say, hey, these

1760
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 17: are the runs that we're good at, and these are

1761
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 17: the ones that we want to that teams know that

1762
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 17: we're good at that we're gonna try and sell players

1763
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 17: off of.

1764
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: Can you tell play action and do you have the

1765
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: ability to give that input to Alex Nfeld?

1766
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 9: Uh that what do you mean? Can you when the defense.

1767
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 11: Really trying to stop they Actually, I.

1768
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 9: Think it's all part four of the game.

1769
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 17: But yeah, outside of being able to get extra rest

1770
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 17: on Thursday night game, what are some of the benefits

1771
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 17: of being able to ask extra time as you get

1772
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 17: ready for this game on Sunday. Yeah, extra rest, I

1773
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 17: think that's the main thing. It's just extra rest and uh,

1774
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 17: you know, new energy, I would say, uh and yeah,

1775
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 17: I think those are two main things.

1776
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 15: To watch film more though, allow you to watch things

1777
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 15: maybe a little different leagues of added.

1778
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 17: Film Uh not differently, But I guess you get I

1779
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 17: guess more time to watch film. But yeah, afferentiated Pubble,

1780
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 17: what's your on wavery Uh? I pronounced that right right

1781
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 17: on wavering. Yeah, for sure. I mean he's one of

1782
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 17: the best burning backs in the league. I mean I'm

1783
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 17: not too worried about that.

1784
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 16: You think you're closer or where do you think you

1785
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 16: need to be as an offense? If you if you

1786
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 16: found your identity yet orse still kind of a work.

1787
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 17: In progress that you Yeah, yeah, it's exactly. It's a

1788
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 17: work in progress as you go game to game. You know,

1789
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 17: it's like the whole thing. It's like you're you're closer

1790
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 17: than you think, but you also are farther than you

1791
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 17: believe too, you know what I mean. So it's it's

1792
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 17: about that balance of being in between those two, you know,

1793
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 17: Like I said, the I guess the four days three

1794
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 17: days or whatever we had off is it was time

1795
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 17: to I guess kind of get closer, uh, in the

1796
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 17: mindset of like, hey, what are we trying to become

1797
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 17: and what what can we do well? And and at

1798
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 17: least push that part that we do well up a

1799
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 17: little bit more so that we get a little bit

1800
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 17: closer so that other things start to fall in line

1801
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 17: and become better.

1802
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 4: Is that a sense of urgency that.

1803
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: You think needs to be added or is it just part.

1804
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 9: Of the process.

1805
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's part of the process. I think it's part

1806
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 17: of the process. Like I said, it's early in the season.

1807
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 17: Is for it's week four the season, you know, and

1808
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 17: then you go week to week. Uh so, Uh, it's early,

1809
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 17: but we're definitely trending in the right direction.

1810
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 4: Forty nine ers defense.

1811
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 18: Just what are your general impressions what sticks.

1812
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: Out the most about them?

1813
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 9: I mean, it's talent all around.

1814
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 17: Feel a group that has been in is together, not

1815
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 17: along in the system, but together for a long time.

1816
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 17: A lot of good players, a lot of good the

1817
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 17: system is. They play it well, they run fast, they

1818
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 17: get to the ball, they got you know, all Pro

1819
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 17: Pro Bowl players at all three levels of the defense.

1820
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, and and they know it. They play

1821
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 9: with uh you know.

1822
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 17: I guess the confidence about themselves that you know that

1823
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 17: it's not a player on the field that they can't make,

1824
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 17: which to their to their credit, is somewhat true, you know,

1825
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 17: but uh, you know, a lot of teams speed, a

1826
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 17: lot of physical play. So it's gonna definitely be a

1827
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 17: hard haad game for sure for us.

1828
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 3: David Andrews with just talk about Heather's the moving pieces

1829
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. What's your message that I grew up.

1830
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: With some of the issues.

1831
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 9: Just keep outing, keep allen.

1832
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 17: Uh, you know, Uh, it's hard to see the light

1833
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 17: at the end of the tunnel and the but it

1834
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 17: is coming, you know, and it's it's about you know,

1835
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 17: going out there, keep battling, keep you know, putting your

1836
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 17: best foot forward and and and trusting the process that

1837
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 17: when when it when it clicks, it clicks, and you know,

1838
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 17: and and like as like the question with the running

1839
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 17: back is my confidence doesn't change for the line? You know,

1840
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 17: it's the players are gonna come. I mean they're they're

1841
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 17: they're gonna settle in and you know it's it's week

1842
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 17: the week as wee can we put our best foot forward?

1843
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 9: It will be all right, Love, Sam just helped you comes. Uh.

1844
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 17: I think over these last three days, I kind of

1845
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 17: actually I think it for the one or more times

1846
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 17: in my career, I actually reflected on a lot of uh,

1847
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 17: a lot of situations and times that I've been in

1848
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 17: my career, uh, only playing not playing in different seasons

1849
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 17: of of uh you know, how things gone. And I

1850
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 17: think over this last couple of days, you know, I

1851
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 17: really reflected and and you know, it puts a lot

1852
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 17: of things in perspective from a holistic viewpoint, but also

1853
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 17: like from a you know, like a day to day

1854
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 17: you know. And uh, you know, it was funny that

1855
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 17: I actually actually did reflect. You know, I can't, I'm

1856
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 17: not bs and I actually did reflect.

1857
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, memories that came to mind when you did that.

1858
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 17: You know, just you talk about getting hit, you know

1859
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 17: what I mean, my first year and Indy like, I

1860
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 17: hit a lot, but you know, you still keep getting up,

1861
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 17: you know what I mean. And then just that aspect,

1862
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 17: and then it's just you know, plays and like situationals

1863
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 17: and situational parts in the game and plays that I

1864
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 17: like and plays that I don't like, and you know,

1865
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 17: you go to watch plays that played off for certain plays.

1866
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 17: You know, the league is kind of like in a cycle,

1867
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 17: you know what I mean. These plays were working twenty

1868
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 17: five years ago, you know what I mean, we were

1869
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 17: all running the same place. But uh, you know, and

1870
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 17: just being able to look back on certain plays and

1871
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 17: certain situations as far as like situational football and you know,

1872
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 17: seasons of NFL life, you know what I mean, and

1873
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 17: just stuff like that.

1874
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 9: Someone at a time.

1875
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 16: So you were fun with these guys at all about

1876
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,440
Speaker 16: your your experience.

1877
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to say, guys, keep doing

1878
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: this doing that, it will come trust me, oh for sure,

1879
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 2: or you get angry.

1880
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: At them and said, let's know, we gotta get together.

1881
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 17: I mean, I'm always say I'm angry person anymore, not today,

1882
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 17: but at least, but yeah, you share those experience because

1883
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 17: it's a lot of players on our team that haven't

1884
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 17: played that much football in the league. And you know,

1885
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 17: we sat at the table and we hang out of

1886
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 17: stuff a lot, like in the cafeteria and stuff, and

1887
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 17: you know, either I'm telling the story or David telling

1888
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 17: the story, Hunters telling the story, and you know, Kj's

1889
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 17: telling stories. So we got a lot of guys that

1890
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 17: do have a lot of experience in the league. So

1891
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 17: just sharing those experiences. And you know, the the cool

1892
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 17: part about it's like we've all kind of went through

1893
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 17: similar situations. We all took different routes to get on

1894
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 17: the other side of it, you know. So I think

1895
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 17: that's the cool part about being in the locker room.

1896
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 9: You have a fun thing about that pros set. I

1897
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 9: think there was a gap and idiot where you were

1898
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 9: sacked ten times.

1899
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: You remember how you responded to that team?

1900
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, getting up when.

1901
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: You got a guy away.

1902
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 9: The last question chakobe the riflecting you on a couch,

1903
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 9: you's walking on the beach. No beaches up here that

1904
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 9: I go to.

1905
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 17: But you know, just I guess sitting on my couch, right,

1906
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 17: I'm not gonna tell you if I sit in my

1907
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 17: bed that would be a little different.

1908
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, and now great moments in.

1909
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 9: History.

1910
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 2: The logic behind where they stock things. The mayonnaise should

1911
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: be by the tuna. Okay, Jerry, all right, you could

1912
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 2: have another section with mayonnaise, but also put it by

1913
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: the tuna.

1914
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 7: I agree. There should be hot dog buns.

1915
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 2: By the bonds. But you have to go all the way.

1916
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you have to go all the way to

1917
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 7: the bread isle.

1918
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Dogs and sausages.

1919
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 10: That doesn't bother me at all, just because if you

1920
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 10: go in and you do big shops, Okay, you're going

1921
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 10: up and down every aisle.

1922
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 2: Just get a couple of things.

1923
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: Then you don't go to a supermarket, go to a

1924
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 3: to a convenience.

1925
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: A little hot dogs at seven eleven.

1926
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the same package of hot dogs at seven eleven.

1927
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: Check the expiration data charge.

1928
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 3: I would expired. I mean, if you don't change inspiration date,

1929
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: that's on.

1930
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: You because they're sitting in there for a while.

1931
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 3: So then you don't buy it.

1932
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: You don't go grocery shopping at seven eleven. You go

1933
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: in there to get us soon.

1934
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 3: Did he just change? Did he just do what?

1935
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: Did he just do? Pack a cigarette jack?

1936
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: Did he just change the argument in typical Fred fashion?

1937
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 2: That's another great moment. All right back here and Patriots

1938
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 2: Unfiltered eight five five past five hundred is the tp

1939
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1940
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1941
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1942
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1943
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1944
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:54,840
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1945
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1946
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,679
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1948
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: If we don't read your email, that's fine, but you'll

1949
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: get the newsletter. And if you've emailed in the past,

1950
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: you're in.

1951
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 5: So it's it's it's got to be connected to the show,

1952
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 5: but not necessarily Patriots right like.

1953
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Right, No, it's about us, it's about our listeners, it's

1954
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: about stuff we talk about. It's you know, it's it's

1955
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: the community of Patriots, unfiled love it.

1956
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, listener of the week, maybe listen.

1957
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: Well we talked talk about email of the week shirt

1958
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: or maybe a signed item or something like that.

1959
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 7: We have players shirt during pre season.

1960
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: Did you ruined it?

1961
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 4: I ruined it?

1962
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: You didn't, I didn't know. A couple more, a couple

1963
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 2: more calls before we get the picks. Let's go to first,

1964
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: Brad in the Eastern Shore. What's up, Brad? Oh geez,

1965
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Hold Brad, I'm gonna put you on hold.

1966
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1967
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 10: We have a special but Evans here, Evans here has

1968
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 10: all right, Evan make it quick, got.

1969
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 18: Picks, gotta hurry.

1970
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: Uh No.

1971
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 12: Alex Austin at Patriots practice today. He was the loan

1972
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 12: and player officially absent. We also did not see Venerian

1973
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 12: low do very much. I would say he is trending

1974
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 12: towards another d m P. But on the defense side

1975
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,520
Speaker 12: of the ball, Anthony Jennings a little bit more participation

1976
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 12: today than yesterday. Sounds like he's gonna at least try

1977
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 12: to give it a go on Sunday for the defense.

1978
01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 12: But offensively, the offensive line goes going for bad to worse,

1979
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 12: no offense to Trade Jacobs, who looks like he is

1980
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 12: trending towards I'm starting at left tackle now. We were

1981
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 12: out there and not to jump to the grousing right

1982
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 12: away before Fred tees me up. But Taylor Kyle's of

1983
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 12: Clinticis Yet had a good take on this. I want

1984
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 12: to give him credit for it. He said that it

1985
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 12: could be, you know, like Week one with Chuk Sikora

1986
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 12: for where if it goes very very bad for Trade

1987
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 12: Jacobs early in that game, maybe Kayden Wallace gives it

1988
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 12: a go and they try to get Cayden Wallace and

1989
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 12: they're just like they did with Viderian Lowe in Week one,

1990
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 12: who came into that game banged up. So I don't

1991
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 12: completely rule out Cayden Wallace just yet. But if it's

1992
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 12: one hundred percent healthy trade Jacobs versus fifty to fifty

1993
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 12: Cayden Wallace.

1994
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 18: It could be Jacobs to start the game.

1995
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.

1996
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 5: I think Jennings is a little bit of an interesting

1997
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 5: one against a you know, physical team like that you have.

1998
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 5: He's a big, physical, edge setting kind of a guy.

1999
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 5: I think I think he's actually been okay, you know,

2000
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 5: it's for what his role is. I mean, he is

2001
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 5: what he is, but that's a guy you kind of

2002
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 5: need against this.

2003
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: He showed up with a couple of negative plays in

2004
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: the game the Jets game. He was one of the few.

2005
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2006
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, they were doing yesterday, they were doing some of

2007
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 12: We did get to see some of the run game

2008
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 12: technique work that they were doing. Obviously outside zone tosses,

2009
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 12: you know, all the Shanahan stuff, and you know, just

2010
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 12: watching it unfold right in front of you, you do

2011
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 12: think of like an Anthony Jennings and you're like, we

2012
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 12: really need that guy set in the edge of this

2013
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 12: week and forcing those runs back inside. But yeah, there's

2014
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 12: a lot of a lot of guys that a little

2015
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 12: bit different than maybe what Bill would have done in

2016
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 12: terms of practice. They're out there for attendance and for

2017
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 12: stretch and then they go down to the lower field

2018
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 12: and are officially d MPs on the injury report later

2019
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 12: in the day. So that happened with a couple of

2020
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:50,799
Speaker 12: guys last yesterday.

2021
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Weather for Santa Clara is supposed to be sunny and

2022
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: pretty warm in the eighties. Do you see guys out

2023
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: there with extra layers.

2024
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 18: No extra layers. It was little drizzly, little rainy.

2025
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 12: Had to borrow deuces rain jacket because I didn't come prepared,

2026
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 12: you know, And that's on me. I have to be

2027
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 12: more prepared for the condition.

2028
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: So I know it's rainy here, but over there it's

2029
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: not going to be nonything going for the heat because

2030
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: you know, I'll tell you something that I heard in

2031
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: the meadow lands that it was sneaky hot. It was

2032
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: very There was like absolutely no breeze. I was totally

2033
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: it was like completely still and the air was like

2034
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: heavy and you know, no excuses, but it's yeah, did

2035
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: you hear that too.

2036
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 12: I had heard that it was very hot on a

2037
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 12: field level from our people that were down there, and

2038
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 12: during the there.

2039
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Was absolutely no air circulation down there, so anyway, what

2040
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: else you got anything else? So there wasn't grousing but

2041
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 2: there were takes. Yeah.

2042
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 12: I said to this to you guys yesterday that that

2043
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 12: there's a lot of takes these days right now about

2044
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 12: what's going on with this this football team. It's not

2045
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 12: so much we're not on the complaining stage of the

2046
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 12: season yet.

2047
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 18: Like that that'll come.

2048
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 12: I know what was us right, But that that'll come,

2049
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 12: I'm sure when it's freezing and we're all bundled up

2050
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 12: out there right now.

2051
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: Not all right, Let's get to a couple TPX phone calls.

2052
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Brad is called back from the Eastern Shore. What's up, Brad?

2053
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Sorry Brady about that?

2054
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 11: No, no, tub All guys listen. This is going on

2055
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 11: year nineteen for us, So I can handle being cut

2056
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:29,839
Speaker 11: off once.

2057
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 13: In a while.

2058
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 2: Sure.

2059
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 11: I wanted to call it yesterday and it was too

2060
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 11: late to get picked up. But the conversation that Paul

2061
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 11: is having over the left tackle.

2062
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 13: Is very blatant. When you look at the draft.

2063
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 11: In the second round, after we took folk that were

2064
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 11: thick left tackles still on the board, three of them win.

2065
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 11: In the second round, we picked the right tackle and

2066
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 11: almost immediately after that, three other left tackles all got

2067
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 11: taken off the board. If we have taken any of

2068
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 11: those six left tackles. I have to agree with Paul.

2069
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 11: Maybe they aren't playing at all pro level, but they're

2070
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:19,919
Speaker 11: getting experienced. Instead, we took the fifth or sixth wide receiver,

2071
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 11: and you know, after Jalen Pulp, before we picked Kate Wallace,

2072
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 11: only two more wide receivers were even picked. And so

2073
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 11: that tells you that the league saw that there was

2074
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 11: a big drop off after that first round in wide receivers,

2075
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 11: which is why there was all the juggling to get

2076
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 11: those last couple in. We could have had Jalen McMillan,

2077
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 11: which was Polk's teammates running the exact same reas last year,

2078
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 11: in the third round, and we would have had our.

2079
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 12: Left tackle Brad just out of curiosity with the Pulk

2080
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 12: pick which left tackle would you have wanted them to take?

2081
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 13: Well, Patrick, Paul, Blake Fischer.

2082
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 12: Okay, Yeah, So all those guys went and went a

2083
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 12: four round later. Is my is just in their defense,

2084
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 12: like picking a guy like Kingsley, Sue Mitia or you know,

2085
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 12: Blake Fisher, those guys ended up going thirty picks later

2086
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 12: like that, They might have looked at that as as

2087
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 12: a reach at that point in the draft. That's all

2088
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 12: I'm getting at Patri just to play Devil's advocate, that's all.

2089
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 11: But all I'm saying is there were six left tackle

2090
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 11: in the second and third round that we could have picked,

2091
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 11: and we passed on all six of them to take

2092
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 11: a wide receiver his teammates.

2093
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, I hear you, But there there's there's there were

2094
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 12: six tackles. That's like, again, I'm not trying to just

2095
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 12: defend them, but Roger Rosengarden is not a left tackle.

2096
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 18: Roger rosen is a right tackle.

2097
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,520
Speaker 13: I didn't include him.

2098
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 18: There are other six tackles. Are you talking about then?

2099
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 12: Because I don't see six left tackles, Like there were

2100
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 12: six tackles and they missed the run of tackle at

2101
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 12: the end of the third round. That that's the big

2102
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 12: second guess, I would say, yeah, excuse me, and second

2103
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 12: to the third right, that's that's the big second guess.

2104
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 12: But you know, there are six tackles that went in

2105
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 12: that span. Not all six of those guys are left tackles.

2106
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 11: I understand that. But there were six left tackle on

2107
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 11: the board that got drowned as left tackle and we

2108
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 11: didn't choose any of them, and we took the right tackle,

2109
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 11: and now we have a three hundred and eighty pound

2110
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 11: guard trying to play right tackle. Yeah, and I think

2111
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 11: that's the problem. We've got so many players out of position.

2112
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 2: Now.

2113
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 11: You know, when you should be a guard. If you

2114
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 11: drafted Wallace to be the right tackle, put him there.

2115
01:34:59,600 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2116
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 11: Deal with the left side. Ye, the left side had injuries.

2117
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 11: But at Lee put the guys where they were drafted

2118
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 11: to play.

2119
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 3: Thanks, Brad, Yeah, I mean, I mean, Brad makes a

2120
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: good point. You know, we can pick at semantics as

2121
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 3: who was available. I just feel like they had an

2122
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 3: opportunity to take a guy who had played left tackle,

2123
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 3: whether it be as a veteran and free agency or

2124
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: in the draft, and they chose not to. I didn't

2125
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 3: understand why. I mean, I wouldn't have to like bog

2126
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 3: down the whole show. And you know I wasn't trying

2127
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 3: to do that. I just no, no, I'm just six.

2128
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 12: I'm not seeing six left tackles that he's talking about.

2129
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 12: That was all I was getting it.

2130
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 3: I even felt like with the Pole pick, you know,

2131
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 3: they traded down right to get Polk. I think they

2132
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: could have traded up to get another guy who you know,

2133
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 3: sort of went in that area. You know, Amarus mems

2134
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:46,839
Speaker 3: or it's.

2135
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 18: A g Gean was probably realistic mens when like nineteenth Okay.

2136
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 3: So you know somebody, I think if they wanted to

2137
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: be aggressive, they they could have gotten. And I'm not picking.

2138
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: I'm not Elliott Wolf. I'm not telling you that the

2139
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 3: specific name, but they were options.

2140
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 10: One more call and then we'll get the picks. Patty's

2141
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 10: inn agawam, what's up, Patty.

2142
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 19: I'll make it quick. You guys are talking about the game,

2143
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 19: and to me, stop the run. That's number one on

2144
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 19: defense because I don't standahands proven he's not afraid to

2145
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 19: run the ball forty times. If you proved that, you

2146
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 19: can't stop the run into my four one three sister, Alex.

2147
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 19: Thank god, this is the last week end of the

2148
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 19: Big Ee?

2149
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 18: Me?

2150
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 2: What was it?

2151
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 5: What was the last weekend of the Big e until

2152
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 5: about a week ago, but apparently it's been going on

2153
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 5: for all of that.

2154
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 7: I lived within a couple of miles, so Saturday and

2155
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 7: Sunday I could not leave my house if I wasn't

2156
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:45,480
Speaker 7: back at it out and back by like nine am.

2157
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 7: I'm not leaving the rest of the day.

2158
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so we're gonna. It's that time of

2159
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: the week. I have a question, okay, before we get

2160
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 2: to what happened last week, Paul, are there any teams

2161
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: on buys this week that they started?

2162
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: No buys this week?

2163
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: Is that next week they start?

2164
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: I do not know what week they start, but no

2165
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 3: buys this week?

2166
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got to hurry, Paul. Yes, what happened

2167
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: last week.

2168
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Last week was another bloodbath. Everybody was bad.

2169
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:18,919
Speaker 18: It's relative.

2170
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 3: I was nine and seven at the top, which is terrible.

2171
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 3: Alex and Fred were eight and eight, Evan was seven

2172
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 3: and nine, and Mike six and ten.

2173
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 4: Terrible.

2174
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 18: I'm always gonna stay out of the basement.

2175
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: On this spread.

2176
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: However, Alex was the best at ten and six, followed

2177
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 3: by Fred at nine and seven, Mike and Evan at

2178
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 3: eight and eight, and Paul seven and nine. I'm just

2179
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 3: like the Bizarro year for me. I'm enjoying this so terrible, terrible, terrible,

2180
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 3: terrible records. Alex twenty seven and twenty one, Mike, Evan

2181
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 3: and Paul tied at twenty five and twenty three, and

2182
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 3: Fred twenty four and twenty four. That'd be overall wow,

2183
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 3: yeah good. However, really it's a complete reversal with a spread.

2184
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 3: Fred twenty seven nineteen and two. Now that's a solid

2185
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 3: record within at this point in the season. Yes, that's

2186
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: a solid record. Twenty seven, nineteen and two. He is

2187
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 3: followed by Alex and Evan at twenty five twenty one

2188
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 3: and two, then Mike at twenty four twenty two and two,

2189
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 3: and Paul twenty twenty six in two. Wow, how the

2190
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 3: Mighty have fallen?

2191
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: Oh okay, We've got a long way to go. It's

2192
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 2: a long season and it's a long segment, so let's

2193
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 2: get going.

2194
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 3: It gets late early there, though, you gotta worry about that.

2195
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 10: We'll start at one o'clock on Fox. The two and

2196
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 10: one Saints are at the one in two thousand.

2197
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Why are we not starting on Thursday night?

2198
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, there it is. My page wasn't scrolled. So

2199
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 2: we'll start tonight on Prime Video eight fifteen. The one

2200
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 2: and two Cowboys are at the one and two Giants,

2201
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 2: Dallas by six.

2202
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 4: Like that naverse, like that, naverse, but not enough against Dallas.

2203
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 4: I think they'll think they'll bounce back, but I'm gonna

2204
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 4: take the points. However, I think it'll be a close

2205
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 4: divisional game.

2206
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 2: Mike's not working Mike. Hello, Mike, Mike's Mike. I don't

2207
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 2: know everything, you go else everything.

2208
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 3: So Mike has taking Dallas and he's taking the points

2209
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 3: with the Giants.

2210
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 7: I'm taking Dallas too. I think it's gonna be a

2211
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 7: get right game for them.

2212
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 3: I'll give them the points both ways. Okay, have yeah, Dallas, Dallas.

2213
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 18: I just think the Giants, stinking Dallas needs a get right.

2214
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas both ways.

2215
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2216
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 10: I hate having to pick the team. I want to

2217
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 10: lose rooting for the Giants. Yeah, I have to.

2218
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,600
Speaker 2: I have to pick the Cowboys, but I'm rooting for

2219
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: the Giants.

2220
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 3: And this one course, I also probably won't watch the game.

2221
01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 2: So so now we get to Sunday at one that

2222
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 2: a time shot Fox the two and one Saints at

2223
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 2: the one and two Falcons.

2224
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 3: Atlanta by two and a half.

2225
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 4: Wow, it's a little bit of a little bit of

2226
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 4: a surprise. Although New Orleans I guess fell back to

2227
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 4: her a little bit.

2228
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't quite believe in New Orleans anyway.

2229
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Atlanta at home, and I'm gonna

2230
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 5: lay the points.

2231
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 7: Actually, I'm going to go Inlanta Atlanta as well.

2232
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 18: I'm gonna take New Orleans.

2233
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 12: I still believe a little bit more and then what

2234
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 12: they're doing that Atlanta team, just some of the things

2235
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 12: they did down in the stretch against the Chiefs just

2236
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 12: for lost in that game. So I'm gonna go New Orleans.

2237
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways, but sort of

2238
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 3: been underwhelmed with them a little bit in nearly go

2239
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: and I thought they would be better. I haven't really

2240
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 3: seen it yet, but I'll take the Falcons at home.

2241
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 2: I will take the points. I know it's only two

2242
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 2: and a half, but this is why I'm leading in

2243
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 2: the spread.

2244
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 3: Are you taking Atlanta to win?

2245
01:40:59,479 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 2: What's that?

2246
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 3: I'm taking the points? So who are you taking to

2247
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 3: win the game?

2248
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 2: Falcons?

2249
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 3: Falcons to win.

2250
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take the points. Isn't that how you

2251
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 2: do it?

2252
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: Well, you took the points. I didn't know who you

2253
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 3: took to win the game, right, I know who you

2254
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 3: taken with the spread, I didn't know who you took to.

2255
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna yeah, but that's why I'm winning. It's like

2256
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Abbott and Caste because I'm not.

2257
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 3: Clear you think it was like rehearsed, right, That's all

2258
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 3: Fred baffles me every week.

2259
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Another game on Fox at one o'clock, the zero and

2260
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 2: three Bengals. I love it against the one and two Panthers.

2261
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 3: Cincinnati by four, four yikes.

2262
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 5: I think Cincinnati gets it done. They get on the

2263
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 5: win column. But is that the red rifle red rifle?

2264
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 5: Right red rifle rifle?

2265
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 4: We used to not be sure? What is your nickname was?

2266
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Nah?

2267
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he's that good. I'm gonna take I'll

2268
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 4: lay the points too, just thinking.

2269
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 7: About it, since he Cincy.

2270
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 18: I'm going to go Cincinnati, but I think I'm gonna

2271
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 18: take the pan. There's the cover.

2272
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 12: I just there's something smelly going on with the Bengals.

2273
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 12: There are a much better team, so I'll take them

2274
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 12: to win the game, but I have no confidence in

2275
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 12: them right now covering a spread.

2276
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 3: Dalton going against his old team too, Oh ye, revenge tour.

2277
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways because I think Carolina

2278
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 3: got their bump last week and that'll go away. It's

2279
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 3: more of an anti Panthers pick than a pro Bengals.

2280
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 2: Well. The thing about the Bengals is it doesn't seem

2281
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 2: like there's much wrong with their offense. But uh, I'm

2282
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 2: gonna take the Panthers to.

2283
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 3: Win, to win, the Panthers to win.

2284
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I hate the Bengals. It's a throwaway pick.

2285
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 2: But Sunday at one on Fox.

2286
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 3: Like, I'm still winning even though I'm not trying.

2287
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. You know what one and two

2288
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Rams at the one and two Bears.

2289
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 3: The Bears by three.

2290
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 4: Interesting.

2291
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 3: I thought this was an interesting spread. I double checked it.

2292
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 2: This is one where the Sharps know something. They know something.

2293
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, they know that the whole Rams team is not playing.

2294
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 3: But that was the case last week when they beat

2295
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 3: the Niners.

2296
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna guess that Evan's pretty high on the Rams

2297
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 5: right now. But I'm going to ride that way too.

2298
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the Rams of the upsets on the road.

2299
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 7: I'm going to apprehensively take the home team. I'll give

2300
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:20,879
Speaker 7: the Rams the points.

2301
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm taking the Rams. Matthew Stafford in that game

2302
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 12: last week against the forty nine Ers is some of

2303
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 12: the best quarterback tape I've seen in a long time.

2304
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 12: I Mean, he was just absolutely outside of his mind

2305
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 12: in that game. I think he's primed. He's ready for

2306
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 12: a run at this thing again. So I'm taking the Rams.

2307
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 3: Yah, I'm going to take the Rams too, just because

2308
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 3: I think they're so much better. But it is Fred's right.

2309
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 3: It's like a complete red flag kind of spread.

2310
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Williams, despite the record, is he's learning

2311
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 2: every game, and I think that he has a good

2312
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: game this week. I think the Bears played good d

2313
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: at home, and I think they win this game. So

2314
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Bears one o'clock on CBS.

2315
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Hello friends, it's the three and oh Vikings at the

2316
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: two and one.

2317
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 3: Packers NFC game on CBS. Green Bay by three. I'm

2318
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 3: not sure about Jordan Love, still questionable.

2319
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 4: Seems like he's given it a go. Gosh, you know

2320
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna I'm gonna go with green Bay at home.

2321
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 4: I know, I really new.

2322
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 5: Minnesota's been really good, Brian Flora's defense playing out of

2323
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 5: their mind. If it's not Jordan Love, it's gonna be

2324
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 5: really tough. But I just I've gotten away from picking

2325
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 5: Green Bay and I like what they're doing up there,

2326
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go back to Green Bay and take

2327
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 5: them to hold serve at home.

2328
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 7: Is there a thing, Paul, where like one team owns

2329
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 7: the other any.

2330
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 3: Green Bay, and green Bay owns that division for a

2331
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 3: long time, but Alex Aaron Rodgers is not there anymore.

2332
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 3: But yes, Green Bay in Lambeaux especially.

2333
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Well, there was a time when Zimmer was their hea

2334
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 2: coach that he had. He always gave Rogers a hard time.

2335
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 7: You know, I've been getting burned not picking Minnesota to

2336
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 7: win these games, honestly, But I'm gonna just split it.

2337
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,520
Speaker 7: Green Bay wins, give the points to Minnesota.

2338
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 12: That's the That's a great coaching I think probably two

2339
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 12: of the hottest coaching staffs in the league right now.

2340
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 4: That's not where I was going with this Game of

2341
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 4: the week.

2342
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 12: Kevin O'Connell, Brian Flores, that ticket right now is as

2343
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 12: good as any coaching staff in the NFL.

2344
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 18: I'm gonna take Minnesota in this game. I think mclik Willis.

2345
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 12: Is going to play for the Packers, and you can

2346
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 12: only get so much out of Malik Willis before it

2347
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 12: starts to catch up to you that it's not Jordan Love.

2348
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:50,839
Speaker 18: So I'm going to take the Vikings.

2349
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about Sam Donald and his health,

2350
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 3: but I'm going to take the Vikings too, and I'll

2351
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 3: take the hat trick of losing with the Packers three

2352
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 3: weeks in a row. Doubting. I think if Jordan Love

2353
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 3: comes back, the way that the Vikings defense is playing

2354
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 3: right now and the way Flores is confusing people, it's

2355
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 3: not going to be a great opponent to come back against.

2356
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,480
Speaker 3: So I'm going to take the Vikings.

2357
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 10: I am also going to take the Vikings to win

2358
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 10: this game. Sunday at one on CBS, the zero to

2359
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 10: three Jaguars are at the two to one Texans.

2360
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 3: Houston by six and a half. Oh boy, and angry Houston.

2361
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 5: I'm not entirely sure, are we right to be? Like,

2362
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is completely done, he's washed.

2363
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 4: They have to move on. I think it feels a

2364
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 4: little premature to me. It feels a little bit.

2365
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 3: There's something going on, something mental going on. Just doesn't

2366
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 3: look right.

2367
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 4: All right, you convinced me. I'm going to take Houston

2368
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 4: at home.

2369
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna take those points because I think it's

2370
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 5: a division game and maybe Trevor Lawrence shows a little

2371
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 5: something more.

2372
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I need Jacksonville to show like anything, So I'll

2373
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 7: give them the points to especially with that spread going up.

2374
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 7: Houston to win Jacksonville to cover.

2375
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 12: I'm gonna take Houston both ways. There's some clips out

2376
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 12: there of Trevor Lawrence like spinning in the pocket when

2377
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 12: there's no pressure on him, and it's like just completely

2378
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 12: seeing ghosts and things like that. I have concerned, especially

2379
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 12: against Tamiko Ryans and that defense, that he's going to

2380
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 12: be able to do much.

2381
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see them getting better this week against Houston.

2382
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 3: I think the Texans are angry, they'll bounce back, so

2383
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 3: I'll take Houston to win. I do agree with Mike though,

2384
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 3: Division game. Six and a half points seems like a lot.

2385
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 3: I'll take the points.

2386
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Texans both ways. If the Jaguar season

2387
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: really does go completely bust and they've got the first,

2388
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 2: should they be going looking at a quarterback?

2389
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 3: Does Bill Belichick make that pick?

2390
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, would you give up on Lawrence if

2391
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: you have the option to get I'd have.

2392
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 3: To see how it unfolds. If he continues like this,

2393
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 3: you gotta think about it.

2394
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 18: I would imagine just a coaching change would come first,

2395
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 18: and the contract.

2396
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 3: And they just gave him a contract. But yeah, it's

2397
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 3: also a very easy contract to manipulate. Yeah, there was

2398
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 3: you know the funline about that.

2399
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: This week, the Raiders look at that and say we

2400
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 2: can make them better, and you know they yeah.

2401
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, trade them.

2402
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 2: You don't just like, of course you trade them. But

2403
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,759
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about picking a quarterback in the draft.

2404
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 2: If you're the Jaguars one o'clock on CBS, the three

2405
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 2: and oh, what players that catch the three and oh,

2406
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Steelers are at the one and two.

2407
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 18: Colts, everybody's already on your case about it.

2408
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't really care.

2409
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: Steelers coats.

2410
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh by one and a half.

2411
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 4: Really, I know Paul thinks Pittsburgh stinks.

2412
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 18: They do kind of.

2413
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 5: I think Anthony Richardson's a he's a roller coaster kind

2414
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 5: of stinks to So I'm gonna go.

2415
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on the with the defense there.

2416
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 5: Uh you know, Jonathan Taylor is is very good though,

2417
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go with Pittsburgh and what was points,

2418
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 5: I'll lay that point and a half.

2419
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Steelers, Steelers.

2420
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 12: I don't like picking Anthony Richardson right now. I think

2421
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 12: he has been up and down, but at some point

2422
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 12: the Steelers are this little run of theirs to start

2423
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 12: the year is going to run out. So I'm gonna

2424
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 12: try to jump on it, and I'm going to take

2425
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,440
Speaker 12: the Colts at home as underdogs.

2426
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 3: I like the pick. I'm not going to do it,

2427
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 3: but I like the rationale and I just don't think

2428
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's that good every year. I really don't Pittsburgh. I'm

2429
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 3: going to take Pittsburgh. It's again, it's more of an

2430
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 3: anti Colts pick. I think the Colts have been a

2431
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 3: little disappointing. I thought they'd be better.

2432
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to take the Colts to win this game.

2433
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 2: So that's ok.

2434
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 4: There is.

2435
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 3: They're at home.

2436
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 2: I don't think I think the Steelers are smelling themselves

2437
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 2: a little bit.

2438
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad pick. I'm saying, so

2439
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 3: there it is. That's what I'm laughing at.

2440
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: Uh No, I think the Colts are a better team

2441
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: than they've shown and they're going to start playing that way.

2442
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: One o'clock at CBS one in two, Broncos are at

2443
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 2: the two and one Jets.

2444
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 3: Jets by seven and a half.

2445
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 4: That's a lot.

2446
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 5: Jets did look very good last weekend's Patriots though, I'm

2447
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 5: gonna take the Jets both ways.

2448
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: Me too.

2449
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 7: I feel like the Jets start to get a little

2450
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 7: momentum here, going a little run.

2451
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 12: Definitely, taking the Jets to win. Seven and a half

2452
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:24,799
Speaker 12: is a big number right now. I'll give the Broncos

2453
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 12: the points, but I don't love that, but I just

2454
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 12: that's a lot.

2455
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 3: I'm with Evan. I'm gonna take that hook the seven

2456
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 3: and a half, but I'll take the Jets to win

2457
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 3: the game.

2458
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: I'll take the Jets, but I'll take the points. This

2459
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 2: is all about Aaron Rodgers. The Sharps think that he's

2460
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 2: going to have you know, yeah, that he's back. But

2461
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton knows what he's doing and I

2462
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to allow him to run around

2463
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 2: like the Patriots did.

2464
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that the fear for us picking

2465
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 3: Denver is what Mike said, the bow knicks picks against

2466
01:50:58,320 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 3: that defense.

2467
01:50:59,040 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 2: No, that's true.

2468
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 3: You get some pressure on him and he's making some

2469
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: bad decisions.

2470
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. One o'clock on Fox the two and one Eagles.

2471
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: Did you know that Jalen Hurts is a winner? He's

2472
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 2: a winner.

2473
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 3: I heard that a few times.

2474
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 2: A winner.

2475
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 18: Not sure about that, coach.

2476
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 2: Two and one Eagles at the two and one Buccaneers.

2477
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 3: Philly by two.

2478
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, I'm going to take Tampa Bay

2479
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 5: at home. I just their defense. I'm just not sold

2480
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 5: on Philly. I'm not really sol on Tampa either, but

2481
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the home team home down.

2482
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,759
Speaker 7: Philly Philly.

2483
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 12: I feel like I'm taking too many underdogs, so I'm

2484
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 12: going to take Philly. But they're not playing great football either,

2485
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 12: so I'm a little torn here.

2486
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 18: But I'm going to take the Eagles.

2487
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 3: So I think Philly is much better. But not without

2488
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 3: a J. Brown and DeVante Smith, I can't do it.

2489
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm taking Tampa.

2490
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa at home, Baker Bay. The league is better

2491
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: with a minute, so.

2492
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 18: He isn't it?

2493
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Thankfully the league has never been better because

2494
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 3: he's been in the league since like twenty eighteen or

2495
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 3: nineteen or eighteen four five.

2496
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 2: On Fox the two and one Commanders, they're the hot

2497
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,959
Speaker 2: team right now against the one and two Cardinals. Everybody

2498
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 2: pointing to Daniels, See see what happens when you let

2499
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 2: a guy play right away?

2500
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's true. I agree.

2501
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 3: Arizona by three and a half half a good offense.

2502
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 2: Arizona by Yeah.

2503
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury revenge game, maybe maybe not. I'm gonna go

2504
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 5: with Arizona at home. I think it'll be a close game, though,

2505
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 5: I'm going to take Washington for the points.

2506
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 4: Please with the hook same here.

2507
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Arizona at home

2508
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 12: as well, but at three point game, so I'll take

2509
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 12: Washington to cover. I don't I'm not ready yet to

2510
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 12: anoint the Commanders just yet.

2511
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Arizona both ways. I think Washington

2512
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 3: has a predictable letdown after a big Monday night road win.

2513
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: I will take the Cardinals both ways as well. Top

2514
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 2: five offense. Now we're gonna skip over the Patriots at

2515
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 2: four oh five and move down to four to twenty five.

2516
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: On CBS, the three and oho Chiefs are at the

2517
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: two and one Chargers.

2518
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 3: The Chiefs by seven and a half, seven and a half.

2519
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 5: Jay Herbow continuing my streak not picking against Kansas City.

2520
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 5: Give me Kansas City, lay in the points.

2521
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 7: I'll take Kansas City set eight and a half, seven

2522
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 7: and a half seven night, I'll give the Chargers the points.

2523
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, I didn't do the same thing.

2524
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,600
Speaker 12: I think the Chargers try to run the ball and

2525
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 12: keep the score manageable, so it'll be less than a touchdown.

2526
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 12: But those Chiefs are just they're winning games and right now,

2527
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 12: like vintage games that not really you doing too.

2528
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 18: Much on offense, just enough. Yeah, it's weird.

2529
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to do the same Kansas City, but I'll

2530
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 3: take the lack. No Herbert though, right doesn't sound like you. Yeah,

2531
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 3: I'm less. Yeah, I'm gonna seven and a Half's a

2532
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: lot for a division game. I'll take Kansas City and

2533
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: I'll take the lack.

2534
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean AFC West. You can never really tell.

2535
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's weird games. But I'm gonna take the Chiefs

2536
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: both ways. In this game, they're due for an offensive breakout.

2537
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 2: So Travis Kelcey talking about you know, I think he

2538
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: has a pretty good game this week for the first

2539
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:33,839
Speaker 2: time this season.

2540
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 18: There's some there's some stuff going on there with Travis Kelsey.

2541
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

2542
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 3: I like mcshay's take, but he'll shake it off with it.

2543
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 7: Oh my god.

2544
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 2: On CBS, the one and two Browns are at the

2545
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: one and two Raiders.

2546
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 3: Raiders by two, Dick.

2547
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 5: I just don't like what's going on with Vegas. I mean,

2548
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 5: they're just up and down. Hard to undisciplined team. Cleveland,

2549
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 5: it's hard to pick them. Let's kind of grow both

2550
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 5: these games.

2551
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna go with Cleveland on the road, please,

2552
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 4: I am two.

2553
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, I trust Cleveland a little bit more right now. Cleveland, Yep.

2554
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised that we're all in agreement. I'm

2555
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 3: gonna take Cleveland too.

2556
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Me too.

2557
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 10: Defense eight twenty on NBC Universo and Telexitos.

2558
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,879
Speaker 4: Oh and Peacock. I don't have Tellos and Peacock.

2559
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Does I say Peacock here on Sunday Night Football on

2560
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 2: Sunday Night lettery it doesn't, but maybe that's a given. Yeah, okay,

2561
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 2: Uh the three and oh Bills are at the one

2562
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: and two Ravens Baltimore by two and a half.

2563
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 9: Yo.

2564
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, give me the Bills. Give me the Bills. Just

2565
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 5: impressed with moving the ball around. Tough to defend. Nobody

2566
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 5: a key off of Josh Allen, As Evan has said,

2567
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 5: many times, MVP candidate right now, So Buffalo, I.

2568
01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 7: Like Buffalo too. It's hard to imagine Baltimore with that record,

2569
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,879
Speaker 7: but I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna stick with Buffalo.

2570
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 7: Stick with my intuition.

2571
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 12: When we look back in January and Josh Allen is

2572
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 12: being presented the MVP Trophy. We're gonna say, signature wins

2573
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 12: at Baltimore Week four, one of them taking the Bills

2574
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 12: both ways.

2575
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 18: He's best quarterback in the league right now, thank you?

2576
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: All right?

2577
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 2: All right?

2578
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 3: I will take Baltimore to win this game. I think

2579
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 3: that they run the ball forty times, and they run

2580
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 3: right at Buffalo, and you just can't win every game,

2581
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 3: right Buffalo can't yet.

2582
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 2: Oh you've read my mind. They're not gonna go seventeen

2583
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: and oh and they're gonna you know, if you're gonna

2584
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 2: lose to a team Ravens at home makes sense. So

2585
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 2: Ravens short week, Ravens win this game.

2586
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 3: Now the primetime game, yep.

2587
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: Do we like doubleheaders on Monday Night?

2588
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 16: No?

2589
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 18: I don't care for it.

2590
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 7: I kind of do.

2591
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 4: I would have it started, Yeah, I don't catch more.

2592
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 4: Maybe one at seven, well one.

2593
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Is at seven thirty. But yeah, so.

2594
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 3: Seven thirty is to a Lake Ram pause.

2595
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Seven thirty on ESPN Jeopard, ESPN Deportes. It can be

2596
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 2: owing three Titans at the one and two Dolphins.

2597
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 3: It's actually Miami by one.

2598
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 18: It's also a game I don't need to.

2599
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 4: Actually, Seacrest is hosting Wheel Now, that's seven o'clock.

2600
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 2: That's how much the Shrups like the Titans. Two is

2601
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 2: not playing and they still can't get fair.

2602
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 4: I just I still have a hard time fiction and

2603
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 4: we'll let Will Levi's going to Miami and winning there.

2604
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 4: But I guess what I'm doing.

2605
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, spend one Miami's family.

2606
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so it's different on our sheet, I'm gonna

2607
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 7: pick a Tennessee upset.

2608
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

2609
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm also going with the Titoons. I just, uh,

2610
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 12: it's funny, Paul, how everybody says that two is terrible

2611
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 12: and then they can't win without Tuous, so I can't.

2612
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 3: Even move the ball from here to they are.

2613
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 18: I'm going to go with the Titoons.

2614
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Tennessee looks really bad to me, but I'm gonna take.

2615
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm on record about Tim Boyle. I think he's going today.

2616
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 3: He's playing right. They liked the way he looked when

2617
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 3: he came in to mop up better than Skyler Thompson.

2618
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 3: So plus Thompson's hurt, I'm gonna take Tennessee.

2619
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a real tough one, you know. I

2620
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 2: my instinct says, you know, Dolphins just get it together

2621
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 2: and you know, pull off a win, and I'm kind

2622
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 2: of hoping they do so that when we play them,

2623
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's a little bit easier.

2624
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think if they win that makes the game easier.

2625
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 3: For if they lose, they're done. They might just quit.

2626
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: No, they won't quit.

2627
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 3: That's what you're looking for.

2628
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win that.

2629
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 3: You can't lose at home to Tennessee and have aspirations.

2630
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win eight point fifteen

2631
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 10: on ABC and ESPN plus the three and ohero Seahawks

2632
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 10: are at the two and one Lions Detroit by three.

2633
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 3: And a half.

2634
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Now, this is a good game, though. I will tune

2635
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 4: in for this one too. Good teams. I'm gonna go

2636
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 4: with Detwi.

2637
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 18: You'll go to better n back up for it.

2638
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, set an alarm and wake.

2639
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 10: Up for it.

2640
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 2: A little.

2641
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 4: It didn't alert wake up, dumbass double Detroit.

2642
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 3: Double d Okay.

2643
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go with Detroit both ways as well. I

2644
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 12: think they're starting to roll a little bit there.

2645
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 3: Similar to my Buffalo Baltimore pick. I'm gonna take Detroit.

2646
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 3: Seattle can't win them all.

2647
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the points though Detroit wins, but

2648
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 2: I'll take those that three and a half. Thank you,

2649
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: sharps and the chalk. All right, now we move back

2650
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: to four h five and this game is on Fox.

2651
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: The one and two Patriots are at the one and

2652
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 2: two forty nine Ersnoiners by ten and a half.

2653
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 18: That's bad.

2654
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 4: I can't do it.

2655
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 5: You'd be on your what third fourth left tackle with

2656
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 5: Jacob's I'm gonna go with San Francisco twenty seven to ten.

2657
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 7: San Francisco twenty eight, New England thirteen.

2658
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go San Francisco twenty, Patriots nine. I think

2659
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 12: the Patriots move the ball a couple of times, but

2660
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 12: kick field goals. I don't expect the Niners to score

2661
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 12: a ton of points in this game. They are pretty

2662
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 12: banged up on offense, so I'm gonna give them twenty

2663
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 12: and nice comfortable home win for the Niners.

2664
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 3: Alex's score is way off. It's going to be twenty

2665
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 3: seven to thirteen. Oh. I just think there's too much there.

2666
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 3: And this is the opposite of Fred's theory. They have

2667
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 3: to win this urgency in San Francisco. You can't go

2668
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 3: one in three. You can't lose games at home to

2669
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 3: teams that you're favored by ten and a half points against.

2670
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be focused. I recognize the

2671
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 3: personnel losses, but I think they have too much. Even

2672
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 3: with the personnel losses, weapons, weapons, George Kittle looks like

2673
02:00:57,240 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 3: he's coming back. Brandon Ayuk, Juwan Jenning, That's that's gonna

2674
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 3: be still plenty to deal with.

2675
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 7: Also, I don't think enough's been said about like the

2676
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 7: secondary is pretty banged up right now, Like John Jones

2677
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 7: is on the injury report yesterday, Gonzo on the injury report,

2678
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 7: not good, not good.

2679
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 10: I will take the forty nine ers, twenty seven seventeen seven,

2680
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 10: So I'll take the points. Patriot Patriots sneak in that,

2681
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 10: sneaking under the wire and cover it's a lot of points.

2682
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, be fun.

2683
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 3: I like it fun to watch where they scored that

2684
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 3: many ones.

2685
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,880
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2686
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:42,240
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2687
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:44,280
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2688
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2689
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:55,640
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2690
02:01:55,800 --> 02:02:00,400
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2691
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2692
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:06,040
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2693
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:07,360
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2694
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,920
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2695
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:15,000
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02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:18,200
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2697
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2698
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