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I watched the Tom Brady roast 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: and I was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was fantastic, 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: made me laugh, So I wanted to talk about it today. 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: One just how awesome it was. And two why would 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady agree to do that? Obviously, money, which we 30 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: all know kind of rules today. But was it just 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: simply get a paycheck? I have some theory behind that. 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Steven Ross talking about a paycheck, was allegedly offered ten 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: billion for the Dolphins. He said, no, I'm good the 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: timing on injuries and their impact on this upcoming season. 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll just fly around some other stories. Pats searching for 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: a GM though Elliott Wolf could become at the schedule 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: release right around the corner. Burrough throws Beckham Junior on 38 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the mailbag. I need you guys to 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: fire in the mailbag at John Middlecoff Instagram DMS wide 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: open off season. Baby, I need you. This is the 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: people show, so firing those dms at John Middlecoff is 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: my Instagram and get your questions answered here. 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I was not expecting a 97 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: NC seventeen version of what I want in a roast, 98 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: and I didn't start it when it started live. But 99 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm cooking some steaks, made some nachos in the air 100 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: frre highly recommend for Sinko de Mile, and I'm out 101 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: by the barbecue getting the meat ready, and I'm just 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: kind of scrolling on Twitter and I'm seeing all the 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: clips from Edelman, from Belichick, from Kevin Hart. I'm like, God, 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of letting it rip. So when I got 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: into bed, give or take about nine o'clock, I'm an 106 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: old man. I know. I turned that thing on. Now 107 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: it's long, no spoilers here because it just came out, 108 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people just this isn't 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. We're not all watching the same thing 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: at time. But it's three hours long. And I ended 111 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: up going to bed probably like eleven forty five. I 112 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: fast forward through a couple things, like I knew AFLAC 113 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: according to the Internet, wasn't that good, but I'm telling you, 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I was blown away. I laughed out loud constantly, and 115 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: like I said, my expectations couldn't have been higher. Cause 116 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: if you told me something like this was gonna happen 117 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: with somewhat of Brady's stature, I would expect to kind 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: of be closer to PG than X rated. And I 119 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: got news for you. This thing is basically this is 120 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: not for kids. So if you have an eight year old, 121 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: a ten year old, you know when I was ten 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: or twelve, I would have found a way to watch it. 123 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people that a lot 124 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: of swearing, a lot of vulgar stuff, which is what 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: I want in one of these events. And here's where 126 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: I give Brady credit. Now we'll get into why he 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: did it. So ultimately you're doing it for money, but 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: he's already insanely wealthy. Can you imagine. Let's think of 129 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: a couple other athletes that are his fame, if not 130 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: more famous, right, Tiger Woods or Lebron James. There's no 131 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: amount of money you could pay those guys to do 132 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: what Tom Brady just did. Zero It would not happen. Obviously, 133 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Tiger would never even think about it because the roast 134 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: would be so incredible, but he would never do it. 135 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: And for Tom whose image and I go on Gottlieb Show, 136 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: he does a radio show for Fox Sports. I go 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: on every Tuesday, and I think last week we talked 138 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: about it, like what's the point of this? And he 139 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: had a theory that Tom's trying to kind of change 140 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: his image because there was a huge negative image at 141 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: the end of his New England run, right, he was 142 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of a villain. A lot of people didn't like him. 143 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I guess I never really felt that way. I guess 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: if you were a Jets fan or Dolphins fan, or 145 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan or a football fan, you rooted against him. 146 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: But I've never met anyone that's like Tom Brady's a scumback. 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: You've literally never heard one teammate, not one teammate that 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: he's ever played with, say a bad word about the guy. 149 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: Not one, It's never I've never heard it. Obviously him 150 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: and Bill butted heads, but as a human being, like, 151 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: people love the guy. He's got this weird way of 152 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: being this super famous, super rich, super accomplished guy, but 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: kind of relating with practice squad guys, relating with random players, 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: let alone his star group of players. And when he 155 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: did this and they were just letting it fly from 156 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the jump, talking a ton about Giselle and the karate 157 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: kid that she's now dating, I was blown away. It 158 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: was excellent. It's one of the most shocked. Like sometimes 159 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: you turn on a show because if you read about 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: it and then it's really good, like this show. I 161 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: think it's called like Reindeer Man or something. Pretty good Joe, 162 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining. But I didn't have necessarily any expectations beside, yeah, 163 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: it was kind of crazy this. My expectations couldn't have 164 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: been any lower because my expectations of these super famous 165 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: guys they love to control the message and it can 166 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: be really cringe and it just can't get really weird. 167 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: And that wasn't this way at all. They came out 168 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: of the gates swinging. So props to Netflix, who obviously 169 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: has business. You know, they have a dog in this fight, right, 170 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: all the comedians that were there, I'm sure they're all 171 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: intertwined doing specials on the platform, so this is good business. 172 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: But to get him, no matter how much money you 173 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: were paying him, to give the thumb up a lot 174 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of credit because I think what we want? What is 175 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: really And I listened to some of the Eddie Vedder 176 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: interview with Simmons Pearl, jam lead singer, and I think, 177 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: well and listen, I'm a sucker like the most I 178 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: would say the genres of music. I'm a music guy, 179 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: like I listened to everything, but I would say the 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: things I most consistently listened to would be like nineties 181 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: music in general, but specifically like grunge rock and country music. 182 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: I would say country on the pie charts pretty high, 183 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: but grunge music is right up there, and there was 184 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: a raw and realness to that group and that era 185 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: of music, and I think it really resonated with a 186 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: lot of people. And I think, what's then? We got 187 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: very corporate for a long period of time, and now 188 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: we're shifting back to the corporate lingo. BS, we tune out, 189 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: we don't watch you. I'm sure many people have seen 190 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: some of the stats of some of these legacy media 191 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: television newspapers. They're in the tank. We just don't really 192 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: consume them anymore. And some of these unfiltered answer to nobody, 193 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: independent quote unquote content creators that could be Rogan, that 194 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: could be whoever crush I mean, dominate. I'm in the 195 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: golf world. I love golf. Do you know who dominates 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: in the golf world? Independent YouTube creators. They get more 197 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: people to watch their stuff, and they could do whatever 198 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: the hell they want. They shoot their own videos, put 199 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: it up them playing golf, and they get more people 200 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: to watch them PGA Tour tournaments. You know why, because 201 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: we like people that we think are being real, and 202 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: that's what that was last night. It was a lot 203 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: of stuff that was real and they were letting them fly, 204 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: and it got a little weird at times. Now what's 205 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: not real is you know what's weird about Tom is 206 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: clearly has fake care. He's got some work done, same 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: with AFLAC. Yet he still feels in a weird way, 208 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of relatable for being a guy with hundreds of 209 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: millions of dollars married to supermodel for everyone forever looks 210 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of fake. Now it's like, god it, Tom seems 211 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: pretty cool, even in a weird way, like he's obviously 212 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: does some weird stuff with his health. How do you 213 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: blame him? Though it worked? He played till he was 214 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: forty five. You want a super Bowl at forty two, 215 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: forty three years old? But I can't recommend it enough. 216 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: And I would have thought a week ago if I 217 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: was one, I wouldn't have watched in two that I 218 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: would ever have given it like two thumbs up. No chance, 219 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: couldn't have seen it. And I like raw. I like 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: things that make people uncomfortable, and that's what good comedy is. 221 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: You should be like damn. And there was a lot 222 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: of that, so excellent production. Now here's the question I have, 223 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: why would Tom do it? And one constant joke is 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: the crypto scam he lost. You know they say thirty million. 225 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: If they're saying thirty million, shit, it might have been 226 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: fifty million. If I had to take an educated guess, 227 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: I don't know exact I've never done a Netflix special. 228 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: How much Netflix paid him, I don't know. If they 229 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: do it over how many people watch, how many people subscribe, 230 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: If it's a flat rate, my guess would be that 231 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: number is way higher than you imagine. My guess would 232 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: be closer to fifty million than like ten million. I 233 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: would be stunned if over the course of a week, 234 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, tens of millions of people don't watch that show. 235 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: If you told me that over a month span, one 236 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: hundred million people watch, I'd believe you at least bits 237 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and pieces of it, Like that's what I would expect. 238 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's trying to buy a piece of the Raiders. 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: He already did, and then the NFL said, no, you 240 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: can't buy it at that price. Why Because the NFL 241 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: didn't want Mark Davis to sell him. While it's a 242 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: tiny piece of the team, whatever percentage it ends up 243 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: being one percent, two percent, five percent at a discounted rate, 244 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,119 Speaker 1: We're not into diluting our assets. So if you're franchise 245 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: is valued, let's just pick a number, you say five billion. 246 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: Mark Davis could easily sell it for more than that. 247 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's say five Whatever the percent he is 248 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: buying that it's based off that number. You can't just say, hey, 249 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: we'll give you a couple percent, give us thirty million dollars. 250 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: And the value of these teams, as we'll talk about 251 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Steven Ross, is astronomical. Well, just because you're super rich 252 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're super liquid. So maybe Tom went listen, 253 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be uncomfortable. And I bet the one 254 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: thing that he had to think long and hard of 255 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: is they were gonna come at him hard for Giselle. 256 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: And even if he can't stand her anymore, he does 257 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: have children and those kids are gonna watch that. And 258 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that's where it gets weird. Like Tom, and I'm just 259 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: assuming does not give a shit what she thinks at 260 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: this point in time, but he does care deeply about 261 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: his children and what they're gonna think about, you know, 262 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about her who her mom's sleeping with. Even though 263 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Tom probably doesn't even care. I mean, he's got a 264 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of options, but I wonder if they made that 265 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: number that like, Okay, now I'm much more liquid to 266 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: be able to pull this off. Because the NFL pushed 267 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: back about that initial number whatever Mark Davis was cool 268 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: with taking and like that's not enough money, which I 269 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: totally understand from the NFL stand. We don't give away 270 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't care how famous or how cool the guy is, Like, 271 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: the number is a number here. We're in the business 272 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: of boosting these valuations. We all benefit from that. That's 273 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: my theory is that this number that he got last 274 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: night or will get over the course of the next 275 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: couple months, is huge, and instead of having to sell 276 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: assets or whatever he has to do to liquidate himself, 277 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: he can just get a large piece of that from this. 278 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: And we've seen over the years, Netflix throws a lot 279 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: of money around, and they've gotten much more specific about 280 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: what they do now than they did seven eight years 281 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: ago when they just paid and probably wasted money. They 282 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea this was gonna work, and 283 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: they clearly paid a premium for a lot of people. 284 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, Peyton Manning's there, Bill Belichick's there. It was excellent. 285 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the heavy hitters were there. You got harback, 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: how Shanahan in attendance Kardashian. It felt like a big, 287 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: big event, and we just don't get those anymore. Now. 288 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: It's different because when I was a kid, the equivalent 289 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: of this event never would have looked like this because 290 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: it would have been on ABC or CBS and you 291 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to swear, which I like. This 292 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: world we live in much more like this is how 293 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: people talk, especially in the football world. So let them 294 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: a comedians, let them talk how they're going to talk, 295 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and it just goes on Netflix, which last time I checked, 296 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: have hundreds of millions of people that subscribe. I would 297 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: say Netflix currently is infinitely larger than CBS's ABC, NBC. 298 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: More people on a nightly basis click to go to 299 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Netflix when they're in their bed or in the living room. 300 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Then they do those channels now, and obviously those channels 301 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: still function well with the older demographic, but when you 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: factor in the entire population just domestically, it's probably not 303 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: a fair fight, and that pie chart will only grow 304 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: and grow for Netflix. So my guess is they paid 305 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: one hundred million plus just to put this on pay 306 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: for everyone to come and this will help Tom kind 307 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: of maybe get over the hump and officially become that 308 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Raiders minority owner, which Walls will put it in to 309 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: his ability to play anymore. Stephen Ross, I think a 310 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, damn, these NFL teams aren't 311 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: normal bidding processes. You're not putting it on the open 312 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: market like you would with a house or a car 313 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: or any a normal business, like, hey, what's what's it worth? 314 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: Because the NFL doesn't typically sell to random people, and 315 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: obviously the pool of people that can afford to spend three, 316 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: four or five eight billion dollars is very, very small. 317 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: But if you look at the recent people that bought 318 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: into the NFL, it has been minority owners. Jimmy Hasim 319 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: was a minority owner. David Tepper was a minority owner. 320 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: These people have already been involved in the league, and 321 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: then they just basically get the first right when these 322 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: teams become available. If you put some of these franchises 323 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: on the open market and had a true bidding, like 324 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, which is obviously one of the most 325 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: desirable cities in this country, it has massive tax advantages 326 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: from the ability to build your team for your own business, 327 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: for yourself, and then you just factor in the league. 328 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: How much the league guarantees you. You can't lose. It's 329 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: impossible to fail. It is truly one of the great 330 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: American businesses going on right now. They have a fixed 331 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: contract with the television networks that ensure their ability to 332 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: be positive no matter what, because the highest cost that 333 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: they'll ever have is the salary cap, and the number 334 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: they get from the TV deal split between thirty two 335 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: teams is dramatically higher. The salary caps two hundred and 336 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. They got a four hundred and ten 337 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: million dollar check. You do the math, You're in pretty 338 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: good shape. And I'm not even factoring in anything else. 339 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: Nothing involved with the stadium, nothing involved with any other sales. 340 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: So when I read that Steven Ross turned down ten billion, 341 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of reaction like that's crazy. It's 342 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: not crazy at all. One, even if he thought about 343 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: selling it, if you sell it for ten billion, you're 344 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: only seeing half. You couldn't spend that money. Steven Ross 345 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: is an older guy. If you try so, the money 346 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: for a guy that's already very, very wealthy, it's kind of, 347 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: in a weird way irrelevant. Two his entire life. He's 348 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: part of this business where his entire life is built 349 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: through the business. Everything he does, the majority of it 350 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: at least, is expense through his business. He lives through 351 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Factoring in the lines of credit he gets 352 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: to operate because of the value of the team, it 353 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: would actually make no financial sense to sell the team 354 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: when it is valued as much as it is. When 355 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: you factor in what you get back, you get the cash. Great, 356 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: you lose the most important thing you have, the asset 357 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: that has the cash and the value where you don't 358 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: have any risk like it's a risk free business. Think 359 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: about Mark Davis, who in the Davis family have always, 360 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: at least until recently, been one of the more cash 361 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: poor organizations in the league. If you put the Raiders 362 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: on a true open auction, when you factor in the 363 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: new stadium, when you factor in the city they live in, 364 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: when you factor in just projecting how many people are 365 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: moving to the state because of its tax advantages and 366 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: the growing market that is the greater Las Vegas area. 367 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: I think he get eight billion dollars. But why in 368 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: the hell would he ever sell now? The thing with 369 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: him he doesn't have children. Steven Ross does and he 370 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: wants to keep it in the family. There are obviously 371 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: variables at play, But I just saw Mark Davis built 372 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar house in Henderson, Nevada. I do 373 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: you think he did that? Who do you think is 374 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: giving him the loan? Why do you think he can 375 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: get a big loan without even flinching because of the 376 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: business he has? Doesn't he have to use his own cash. 377 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't even matter if he has cash in the bank 378 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: or not. Gets it through his team. White people that 379 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: own businesses, you get massive, massive advantag Just the game's 380 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: a little ricked. Now you got to take the risk. Now, 381 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: some of these people were born into it, like Mark 382 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Steven I think bought the team. But when you have 383 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: something this valuable, it makes zero sense when there aren't, 384 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, rocky times ahead. It's one thing if you like, 385 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: hey see some weird shit going on in the future, Okay, 386 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: get out, But doesn't really feel like that, at least 387 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future when it comes to be an 388 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: NFL owner. So when I see that Stephen Ross turned 389 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: down ten billion, I think every owner would turn that down. 390 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: You know what's funny is Aaron Rodgers is a full 391 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: speed ahead they say he's going to be full go 392 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: at ot eights. He was last year. And remember he 393 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: like pulled a calf muscle, but like he was able 394 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: to practice and it brought all this positive buzz and 395 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: he was going to hockey games and MSG and it 396 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: was just fun. Right. It was like God, Rogers is 397 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: changing the Jets, and then it gets hurt on opening 398 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: night w a night football. If you are going to 399 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: get injured, now, let's factor this in. The Achilles injury 400 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: when I was growing up in the nineties, ended careers. 401 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: You were never the same, you were done. It clearly 402 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: is much closer to what the ACL became over the 403 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: last twenty years than what it once was. It does 404 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: not ruin a career. You could not only come back 405 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: but play at a pretty high level now. Unlike a 406 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys that have torn achilles in younger years, 407 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: this guy is forty years old and even before he 408 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: tore his achilles, when you watch the move around, he 409 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: didn't quite move the same. But when you get injured 410 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: with a massive injury, whether it be an ACL, whether 411 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: it be an achilles, your timeline is dramatically different than 412 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: say Kirk Cousins, who basically got injured two months later, 413 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Who's not going to be available at OTA's It's why 414 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: it brings in the question of, well, what's gonna happen 415 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: when Michael Penix has taken all the one reps and 416 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: he looks good and all the teammates like him. Drake 417 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Greenlaw tore his achilles in the Super Bowl, it's fair 418 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: to say that he won't be ready any means the 419 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: first couple months of the season. So why the forty 420 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: nine ers tried to sign Eric Kendricks, who ultimately flip 421 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: flopped and went to the Cowboys because he's boys with 422 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and I saw some quotes from him. He's like, yeah, 423 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I just wasn't really guaranteed a roll. I knew at 424 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if guys are healthy, I'm 425 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: playing a backup role. But they were signing me basically 426 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: as a contingency plan if Greenlaws not able to go. 427 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: But if he is and looks okay, then he's gonna play. 428 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: Because he's a better player in twenty twenty four than 429 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: an older version of Kendricks. The timing of injuries is 430 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: so big when it comes to a season ender. When 431 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: you get injured in the playoffs. When you get injured 432 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, that timeline you're talking early on 433 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: in the season, I can't count on you for as 434 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: shitty as the Achilles injury was for ruining the Jets season, 435 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: and it ruined their season, who knows how good they 436 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: were gonna be, but once he went down, they had 437 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: no chance. None. Even though they won that night against 438 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: the Bills, their season ended the moment that guy got 439 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: carted back to the locker room. On the bright side, 440 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna be rare and ready to go. So if 441 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: you also would have missed the playoffs and he would 442 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: have torn his achilles in December, it might not have 443 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: been the same. I don't give a shit what doctors 444 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: are telling him and what rehabit he was doing. It 445 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: also gave him the capability kind of looking the mirror 446 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: right away and like, I want to battle back. So listen. 447 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: The first glass half full thing I've said about the 448 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Jets in a while is like the timing of that injury, 449 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: if he was gonna get hurt, I would say, worked 450 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: out pretty well. Let's fly around the NFL. The schedule 451 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: release is they have it. They don't come out with 452 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: a specific date, but it's looking like either within the 453 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: next fourteen days. Isn't it crazy how big the schedule releases. 454 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: You could argue that the schedule release in the NFL, 455 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: in the buzz it creates and the interest that people 456 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: paying attention is bigger than any regular season baseball or 457 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: basketball game. All we already know who's playing who hew, 458 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: we even know some of the games Eagles, Packers, Brazil. 459 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: We're just finding out when they play them, when your 460 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: bye week is, when your Thursday week is, who's playing 461 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: on Christmas? How many money night games you get? But 462 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: we know as of today, like we've known for a while, 463 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: every one of your opponents home and away. So it's 464 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: not like you don't even have the home schedule. You 465 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: know exactly who you're playing. They just tell you the 466 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: order and on what network, and even that is subject 467 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: to change. Who's good, who sucks? Flex schedules. I would 468 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: say the schedule release, more than any other thing in 469 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: the NFL in the off season post Super Bowl, is 470 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: the most symbolic moment of the entire operation's importance. I've 471 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: never heard of anyone talking about like the baseball schedule 472 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: my entire life in the off season the NBA schedule. 473 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Who who discusses this stuff? This is not only a 474 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: discussion point, like it's a really really big deal. Now, 475 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I get it. Football, every game is much more important. 476 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Days you play travel flying east coast to West coast 477 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: or West coast to East coast, or short weeks, or 478 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: you gotta stay in one area because you gotta you know, 479 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: you play out. If you're a West Coast team, you 480 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: play Tampa and then you're playing the Panthers the next week, 481 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: so you're just gonna stay at you know, wherever. But 482 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty wild the power of just this basic 483 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: one hour schedules get released, things get leaked. Yeah, it's 484 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: just kind of leaves me speechless sometimes when I think 485 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: about it. The Patriots, I've been saying for a while, 486 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm out. I've been out, like I'm just I'm not in, 487 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: even though I like Drake May I do and I'm 488 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: not a Patriot hater. For twenty plus years, I not 489 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: only admired them in a weird way at times, I 490 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: rooted for them, love Belichick and Tom I'm a Fresno 491 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: State guy. A ton of Fresno State guys played for 492 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: them over the years. I got to know guys that 493 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: worked there in the front office. But I think their 494 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: operation feels very weird. They fired Belichick, they had the 495 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: opportunities to start from scratch. Elliott Wolf, who has been 496 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: in the mix to be a GM at different places 497 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: for like the last five years, basically got elevated to 498 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: run the off seat, but they didn't give him the job. 499 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: Why would you during a transitional period and he may 500 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: end up getting the job, and maybe he will, but 501 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: not just give him the job. When you gave Gerrod 502 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Mail the job, why would you leave it to chance 503 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: that like, yeah, this guy might not be the guy. 504 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: We might go in a different direction. It just feels 505 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: a little chaotic, and Bob Kraft at the roast really 506 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: tries to like make it less awkward that it's become like, Bob, 507 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: you guys trashed fucking Belichick trashed him, which again, you 508 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: could you fired him, you told us you were ready 509 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: to move. That's fine, but to like try to trash 510 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: his legacy, it feels like this. I don't know in 511 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: security with the Craft family, but this feels a little weird. Now, 512 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: maybe listen, Bill didn't give coordinator titles a a lot 513 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: of times with some younger coaches officially sometimes to the season. 514 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes he didn't have him during the season, Obviously internally 515 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: he had him, So maybe they're trying to do a 516 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: little bit of that. But I just don't understand letting 517 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a guy run your entire offseason unless you've given him 518 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: the wink we handshake. But I don't think they did, 519 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: and I understand there are logistics behind it. You can't 520 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: officially give him the job, but you could have just 521 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: ran a normal search and still given him the job. 522 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: So it just the Patriots just feel a little chaotic 523 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: to me. Odell Beckham signed with the Dolphins, and I 524 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of people get mad, like why did 525 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: people talk about Odell Beckham so much? He hasn't been 526 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: relevant in a long time. He's way more famous than 527 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: me as good as a player. Obviously, Baltimore paid him 528 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: too much last year. Now, there were circumstances in terms 529 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: of Lamar pressured them, and they did that to make 530 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Lamar happy. One thing I heard from people in Baltimore, 531 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: they fucking love the guy. How hard he worked, how 532 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: good of a mentor he was to the younger players, 533 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: how hardy blocked. So the Odell Beckham that we used 534 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: to talk about the one handed catches, some of the 535 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: diva stuff. I actually think he's much more embraced the 536 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: type player that he is currently in his early thirties. 537 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: He's just a really really good role player who tries hard. 538 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Look at Clowney, like Clowney now is just a really 539 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: really solid role player and a guy you want on 540 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the team, a guy that you can win with. Well, 541 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens had both those guys last year and up 542 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: until the Chiefs kind of punked him and Lamar and 543 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Todd Munkin went into a shell. They were the best 544 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: team in football start to finish and having and they 545 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: valued those two guys. So like sometimes the perception when 546 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: you get really famous follows you around and you as 547 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: a player slash person aren't the same guy that you 548 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: were five years ago. We all mature, we all change, well, 549 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: ideally high level people do, and I from talking to 550 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: enough people, Odell definitely has. And this number you know, 551 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: in the low millions makes a lot more sense because 552 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: he is a good role player and he will block, 553 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: which is something that is very important to Mike McDaniel 554 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: in an offense that when they're not throwing bombs to 555 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: waddle and tyreek like he's gonna try to run the ball. 556 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow threw for the first time at least publicly 557 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: put out a video. Looks good. And when we're doing 558 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: our hierarchies of you know, the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Niners, 559 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: the Lions, if this guy's healthy, the Bengals are a 560 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: major factor. You could argue of all the games played, 561 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: he played the best game. I say, and I watched 562 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't know eighty five ninety of NFL games last 563 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: year as the season went on, Like I wasn't watching 564 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Panthers Falcons, but any game that mattered, and most people 565 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: listening probably did too. The game he played against the 566 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers was like I had a scout at 567 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: the combine and say he thought that was the best 568 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: film he saw all season long from anyone. This is 569 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: a pro scout. I'm like, yeah, I concur Man. That 570 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: was like Joe Montana meets Tom Brady meets Paid Manning. 571 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: So if this guy's healthy, the Bengals, and let's face it, 572 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: there's been one team beside Brady and Belichick in the 573 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: AFC that has beat these guys in the playoffs. It 574 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: was Burrow on the road too. So if he's healthy, 575 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: which is a fair question, can he stay healthy? I 576 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: hope he does because I like watching great players. The 577 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna be a fucking problem. And when he 578 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: started getting healthy as the season went on, before he 579 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: heard his elbow or wrist or whatever he ended up injuring, 580 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: they were a major problem. They were coming. So they're 581 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: just a team that and I do this disservice sometimes 582 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: you forget about him. You can't forget about him when 583 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: he's on the field and healthy. You know, last year 584 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: he had the calf in training camp, obviously, the elbow, 585 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: he's had, the knee. He's got to find a way 586 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: to keep him on the field because when he's on 587 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: the field, he's a dominant, dominant player. That's been At 588 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: least eighteen of the thirty two first rounders who were 589 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: eligible for a fifty year option had theirs picked up. 590 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: That's pretty good year. As Schefter ran the numbers before 591 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: the draft, it was under fifty percent. That's fifty six percent. 592 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Some of those guys, the Sools, Devonte Smith, Parsons, and 593 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: Chase Will got big extensions. So I just think that 594 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: it was a good draft, it does feel a little 595 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: bit more like an outlier. The year before had thirteen 596 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: out of thirty two, So over the course of two 597 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: years it was thirty one out of sixty four, which 598 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: is under fifty percent. To me, if you said over 599 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: the course of twenty years, what would you expect, I 600 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: would expect the number to be like fifteen point five 601 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: or sixteen point two. Eighteen's probably about as good as 602 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. But it does just show you, for 603 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: as excited as we are and every fan on their 604 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: first round pick, at minimum, on a good year, fourteen 605 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: guys are not gonna get it picked up now. Just 606 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: because you don't get it picked up doesn't mean that 607 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: you can't have a huge fourth year and I give 608 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: you a contract extension. But I would say if we 609 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: did a study on that, guys that don't have their 610 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: fifth year option picked up, the sign a second contract 611 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: with the drafting team probably pretty low. It's very very rare, 612 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: very rare. I remember it having once with the Bears 613 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: with the corner fuller I think his name was, is 614 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: that who it was? Yeah, but it doesn't happen very often, 615 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: So celebrate when teams get it right. 616 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: The NBA playoffs are here. Will be breaking down all 617 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: the acts on the Colin Coward podcast. You'll get my 618 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 3: best takes, great guess like my buddy Nick Right. 619 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: Check out the Colin. 620 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: Coward podcast, part of the volume Networked, available on Spotify, Apple, 621 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. 622 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: Okay Middlecoff mailback time at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff 623 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: is the Instagram. Fire into those dms. Gonna need a 624 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: lot more dm so fire in off season. Heavily involved 625 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: with the people, so uh make sure you fire in there. 626 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: Love the pod. My name is Larry. I'm not on Instagram. 627 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: This is my wife's I moved to Scottsdale recently from 628 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: Fair Oaks and you had us cracking up about the 629 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: self checkout story. I'm a Raider fan and we keep 630 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: and I keep hearing we desperately need a quarterback AOC. 631 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: I think he means Aidan O'Connell was clearly the second 632 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: best rookie quarterback bar was low. I mean, but I 633 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: hear you, so why is he being dismissed but not 634 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Levis Young, etc. His qbr A completion percentage were roughly 635 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: the same as Minshew's five and four record After all, 636 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: the McDaniel's nonsense seems respectable. What happened to give giving 637 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: rookies until their second Thanksgiving? Second year? What was so horrible? 638 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: After the entire NFL world is out on Aiden? Do 639 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: you have the good work? I don't think anyone's Bryce 640 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: Young was the number one overall pick from Alabama, so 641 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: I think people are giving him the benefit of doubt 642 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: in the sense of team was awful, chaotic, no talent. 643 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people are very, very 644 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: cautiously pessimistic, like it's gonna be a disaster. I would 645 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: say the general consensus is Levis sucks. The other thing 646 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: is in your division, you got Mahomes and Herbert so 647 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell. If he's your starting quarterback as what was 648 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: he a fourth round pick? I mean, you guys won 649 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: a game last year against Kansas City when he didn't 650 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: complete a pass in the second half. I just think 651 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: it's fair to question the Raiders quarterback situation this year 652 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: now big picture, are they equipped with some talent for sure? 653 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: Is it like a disaster situation with your team by 654 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: no means, but your quarterback situation. Can you guys make 655 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs in the AFC with a Minshew AOC connection 656 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: or combination. I don't think you can now. I think 657 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: you'd have to agree. No, I think that's fair. Is 658 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: ad O Connell even gonna be the starter? Like? Can 659 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: he beat out Gardner Minshew? And I think that Gardner 660 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: Minshew was would be as good without Shane Stiken to me, 661 00:38:54,680 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: would be a stretch. Now listening to DeVante with Cross 662 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: on his pod, he's very very comfortable in this offense, 663 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: and this offense is very quarterback friendly if you can 664 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: just distribute the ball something Field struggled a lot with 665 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: the reason they crutch crushed Luke Getzi when he was 666 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: the OC in Chicago. So could those guys be better? 667 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: For sure? I do think you're just playing two quarter 668 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: The gap between your two quarterbacks of the teams that 669 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be is just pretty high. They 670 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: got Jim Harbaugh now, so the Chargers are gonna be 671 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: a problem, and we know the Chiefs are a problem. 672 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: And ultimately like, yeah, it's a divisional game, maybe you 673 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: could beat him. How do you get to nine to 674 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: ten wins? How do you get to ten? Because even 675 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: ten doesn't guarantee you in the AFC a playoff spot. 676 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: I think part of the problem when people are critical 677 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: of the Raider situation when it comes to quarterbacks is 678 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: you just look at the conference like the two we 679 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: talked about in the division, the AFC, North Burrow Lamar, 680 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: who else am I missing? Rogers is now with the 681 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: Jets obviously, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence, who most people think suck, 682 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: is still way better than your guys. CJ. Stroud obviously 683 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: a star. I just think it's going to be very, 684 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: very challenging. The Lions extended Piney Sewel after his third season, 685 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: since he was his first round pick. Wouldn't you have 686 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: two years left with the fifth year option? Why extend 687 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: him now? Does the extension kick in later or what? Well, 688 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: the extension wouldn't kick in technically. You know they give 689 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: him up front signing bonus, but on the books doesn't 690 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: kick in till after the fifth year. The reason you 691 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: do it now is the reason high level guys. It 692 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: happened to Josh Allen, it happened to Mahomes, it happened 693 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: to Herbert, it happens to star players. Is because you know, 694 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: like this guy is going to be our starting right 695 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: tackle for twelve years, So if we extend him next year, 696 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: it's only going to be more expensive. And we know 697 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: for a fact we're not getting rid of him, like 698 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: there's no question. Like my pushback on Tua's like, are 699 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: you sure? Are you sure? Like they're sure. So if 700 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: we can guarantee him, I don't have the full contract 701 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: in front of me, but if I remember correctly, it's 702 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: like eighty five million dollars. Well, if we wait a 703 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: year and he's a pro bowler, all pro, we're good. 704 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: He's clearly one of the best. If not, you know, 705 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: right behind Lane Johnson as one of the best tackles 706 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: in the league on the right side. You go, is 707 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: that number one hundred and five million dollars? So you 708 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: just say you get cost certainty, you're betting on him 709 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: being a great player for a long time, and you 710 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: have no hesitation in doing it because he's not going anywhere. 711 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: So I think you just you know, the number only 712 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: goes up and you know he's not going anywhere, so 713 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: it's a it's an easy deal to do. But yeah, 714 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: they did not have to do it, did not have 715 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: to do it. Now, part of it is to build 716 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: the finances how this Jared Goff situation plays out. But 717 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: I think deals like Sewell are the ones you want 718 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: to do. You want to draft guys high who that 719 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: you have no hesitation signing to after their third year, 720 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: You do not have to do it. I would say 721 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: with a guy like him at his premium position, with 722 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: how good of a player he is, how clearly, how 723 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: much they like him, how much he means their culture 724 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: and their toughness. Probably an easy one. Love the show, 725 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: big Seattle fan. My question is how much do you 726 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: think the Malcolm Butler interception affected the team locker room 727 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: in the following seasons? To me, it just felt like 728 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: they were never the same. Injuries had a little factor, 729 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: but they went from a clearcut top in the to 730 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: just okay. Divisional round exit is good, I guess. To 731 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: keep it short, my question is how much do you 732 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: think the Butler interception affected the Seahawks in the next 733 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: two or three seasons. I've seen the players talk about it, 734 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Shermans, the the core group of guys. 735 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: I think they thought they could have a dynasty and 736 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: if they win back to back, now, are they going 737 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: to win three in a row? Probably not, but I 738 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: think they have a chance to, you know, win three 739 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: and four years, or go to three, go to four 740 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: super Bowls in five years, something of that kind of level. 741 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: It derailed their franchise at the highest level. I mean, 742 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: it's one of I think it's the craziest moment in 743 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl history, at least the craziest moment I remember 744 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: watching live Bam bam. We've seen twenty eight to three. 745 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: We've seen some collapses, We've seen some big plays. I 746 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: don't think we've ever seen an altering moment like that. 747 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: What it meant for New England and what it meant 748 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: for you guys, because the rules changed a couple of 749 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: years later, but no team was more equipped. Russell was young, 750 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: Pete was in his prime. All your defensive guys were 751 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: in their prime. Now you never know, you went a 752 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: couple do you work as hard? But from everything that 753 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: was reported after the fighting in the locker room, I 754 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: think did Bruce Irvin have to be restrained from going 755 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: after Pete? It's just something you don't shake. And then 756 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: the animosity that the team had toward Russ because they 757 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: thought Pete was trying to get him the Super Bowl MVP, 758 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: regardless of what was factual, and what wasn't why they 759 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: ran the play. We could argue to it, we're blue 760 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: in the face. Was it the right move? Was it not? 761 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 1: It was second down right, It was just an incredible play. 762 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: They had it scouted out, but the fanchise never shook it. Now, 763 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: Russell went on to become a star after that, but 764 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: clearly defensively they kind of dismantled it. And like you said, 765 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: some injuries creeped in. I mean Richard a couple of 766 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: years later, tears Achilles, Earl has contract issues, Cam hurts 767 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: his neck. But you win that, You're the favorites next year. 768 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that sucks. I mean that sucks. It's just 769 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: a huge tipping point for a franchise, Like to become 770 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: a dynasty, you do need some things to go your way. 771 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: And let's face it, in a lot of football games, 772 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: unlike a lot of sports, like when you're really good, 773 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: you win the World Series? Would the Rangers win it 774 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: five games? Once the Warriors got Kevin Durant, they just 775 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: dominated right with a big three with the heat, Like 776 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: once they kind of figured it out, they just kind 777 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: of cruised to a couple titles. Football is not I 778 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: don't care how most I was thinking about this watching 779 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: the Brady Dynasty or Brady Roast. Obviously they talk a 780 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: lot about the dynasty. He easily could have nine super Bowls. 781 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: He also easily could have three or four. Like all 782 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: think how close most of them? What was the easiest 783 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: Patriots super Bowl Eagles? They had a couple of touchdown 784 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: lead or a double digit lead in the second half. 785 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: The Rams only scored three points. I would say those 786 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: two were the easiest, and then the Rams won. They 787 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: had to drive their first one drive the field with 788 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: less than two minutes to go kick game winning field goal. 789 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: They kicked the game winning field goal against Carolina Panthers Seattle. 790 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: They easily could have lost, I mean should have lost. 791 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: They were down twenty eight to three in the second half, 792 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: so the margin for air and it's what makes football 793 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: so great. I don't care how good the teams are. 794 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: Look at his last Super Bowl went to overtime. I 795 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: mean the Niners and Chiefs have played in two crazy 796 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: super Bowls. Honestly, one of Brady's easiest Super Bowls was 797 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: the one they played the Chiefs when they had lost 798 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: both their tackles and they couldn't block crazy when you 799 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: think about it like that. So the key is you 800 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: got to win it. And at the end of the day, 801 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 1: for a shitty as it kind of unraveled for you guys. 802 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: You guys were Super Bowl champs, it would have really sucked. Now, 803 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: the one super Bowl you guys won, you that's actually 804 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: probably one of the bigger blowouts in recent memory, when 805 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: you guys killed the Denver Broncos. Does the league tell 806 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: every team that the pick the pick as soon as 807 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: it's submitted. Watching on TV, Goodell doesn't seem to announce 808 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: the pick until sometimes five minutes later the next team 809 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: drafting and everyone looking to trade would need to know 810 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: the draft pick right away. Well, what happens is the 811 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: league has like a I don't know the name of 812 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like a website you sign into. It might just 813 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: be like the NFL official website for the teams and 814 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: you type in. So when you see the draft rooms 815 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: and when you see some of these videos coming out 816 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: of the all access, which is really cool. I mean, 817 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: it's one of the positives of this world we live 818 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: in where cameras are in the draft room. When someone 819 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 1: turns around and goes they picked Penix. The draft room 820 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: knows fifteen minutes before we do if we're not on 821 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: social media. Because when I'm the Falcons and I turn 822 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: in my card, AKA, someone in the draft room calls 823 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: someone in Detroit and says, we're gonna select Michael Pennix. 824 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: Before the hand goodel the card, they type it in 825 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: to the program that every team in the league is 826 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: signed into. So every draft room has that program up 827 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: on a computer and then usually one guy's job is 828 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: to announce the pick is in. It is you know, 829 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: you pick the player Roma Dunes, A Michael Pennix, whoever. 830 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: So they know immediately, so the clock doesn't start until 831 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: that name is in, and every team knows it, so 832 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: that what we're witnessing is a lot different than what 833 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: the teams are experiencing. It's why these people that break 834 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: the stories on Twitter, they're either getting it from a 835 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: team or from someone in the league tells them. Like 836 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: when I'm texting with a buddy in a draft room, 837 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: I go, who did so and so pick he? You know, 838 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 1: if it's not a lot, he can tell me because 839 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: the draft rooms. Draft room knows, so, yeah, it's Goodell. 840 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: Our experience on the outside is a lot different than 841 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: the thirty two teams. They know there's not a lag because, 842 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: like you said, it'd be messed up. Question, do you 843 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,479 Speaker 1: think I think Cousins signed with Atlanta if he knew 844 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: they were going to draft one of the top quarterbacks. 845 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: Albert Breer actually wrote about this today in the Monday 846 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback. One of the reasons he was not just 847 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: cool with leaving Minnesota, It's kind of why he was 848 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 1: not that interested in coming back. They were very transparent 849 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: with Cousins about their desire to get a quarterback high 850 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: in the draft. They told him this last year. They 851 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: just said, listen, just so you know, we are going 852 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback market when it comes to 853 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: the draft. And when they negotiated in February and March, 854 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: it was one of the things they were very open about. Now, 855 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: I don't think they were. They clearly weren't willing to 856 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: pay the contract. But a big reason that they that 857 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: Cousins was kind of ready to move on from Minnesota 858 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: is they said, like, listen, you're not going to be 859 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: a starter here much longer. We are going to transition. 860 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta clearly didn't tell him that. I do think if 861 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: he knew that they were going to take a quarterback 862 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: at eight, he would have played the market a little more. 863 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he really shopped himself around that much 864 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: once Atlanta got so aggressive, and in fairness to Cousins 865 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: and his agent, once Atlanta is offering one hundred plus 866 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, not in a million years do you 867 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: think they're going to use that pick on a quarterback. 868 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: So even if they take a guy in the second 869 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: or third round, whatever, but you never would have thought 870 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: they would use the eighth pick on Penis or whoever. 871 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: He was stunned, just like we were stunned. The only 872 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: people that weren't stunned were those people in that room, 873 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: which they clearly fell in love with them over the 874 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: course after free agency, which to me is a little crazy. 875 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: I still I think it's a complete waste of resources. 876 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: You do one or the other, and you would have 877 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: known before free agency if you liked the guy. And 878 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: I think this is a clear indication the coaching staff 879 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of juice. We'll get Michael. Michael Lombardi's 880 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: coming on the pod next week. It's texting with him today. 881 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: He's I totally agree with everything he said. Part of 882 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: being a the planning aspect of your scouts of knowing 883 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: like you would have known everything about Michael Pennox has 884 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: been one of the most famous college players the last 885 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: twenty four months, so this isn't something that should have 886 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: come up on you. So to me, Cousins, I see 887 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: both sides. One like, this is what the money's for. 888 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: We gave you all this money, your starting quarterback. We're 889 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: not really into feelings, which I do subscribe to, but 890 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 1: also we are dealing with humans in this situation now 891 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: with him injured and panics getting the reps. No, it's 892 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: just weird. I just think it's bad team building when 893 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: you put your team in this weird situation. I'm all 894 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: for investing in the quarterback position, but once you invest 895 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: in Cousins, which you could argue is a question mark. 896 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 1: He's coming off of a torn achilles at thirty six 897 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: years old, and he's not a mobile guy. But they 898 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: did that, so I don't know. I just think it's 899 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: it's a bizarre situation. But back to your question, maybe 900 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: he still would have gone there if he would have 901 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: known March fifteenth that they were still going to take 902 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: a quarterback at eight because the money's the money, and 903 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: one thing Cousins has shown is he fucking loves the money. 904 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: He's been all about the money, which is completely his 905 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: prerogative and something ninety nine point nine percent of pro 906 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: athletes have to be all about because their their career 907 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: is short. Like you're not People aren't just handing you 908 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in the real world. Takes a 909 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: long time to build something up to get to that point. 910 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: And he's gonna end his career as being probably one 911 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: of the top five most compensated players in the history 912 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: of the league. So once you I don't want to 913 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: call him a mercenary. But like when you're just playing 914 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: the open market, whoever's gonna give you the most, Like 915 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: they're not as invested in your feelings. You know, I'm 916 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: paying you to play quarterback at a high level. We're 917 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: gonna do what we have to do for our team. 918 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: You're thirty six. Even if we all agree it's kind 919 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: of a weird move. It's a more than bizarre and 920 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: a waste of resources. But like they aren't as indebted 921 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: to this guy emotionally. The sweat equity's not there. He's 922 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: never and the fans aren't gonna care. They're just gonna 923 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,879 Speaker 1: want to see the best player. Now, when it comes 924 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: to building your team, if your cousin's like, hey, you 925 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: signed me because you said it's time to win. And 926 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: then we have this very very valuable pick, the eighth pick, 927 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: where only offensive players are getting picked. We have a 928 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: good old line, receivers, running backs, tight end. Our defensive 929 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: line has sucked for a decade, and they were like 930 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: four defensive linemen, sweet defensive tackle, a couple of pass rushers. Hell, 931 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: just trade back and get one of those guys. Let alone, 932 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: just use that pick on one of those guys so 933 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: we could try to win the NFC this year. We're 934 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: trying to beat San Francisco, Detroit, Green Bay, Dallas, Philly. 935 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: We're not good enough on defense to do that at 936 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: the defensive line, because that's how you win. Think about 937 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: the final four teams, the Lions, when did they really 938 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: change when they drafted Aiden Hutchinson and their offensive line 939 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: was sweet. Now they got a sweet pass rusher and 940 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: an off awesome offensive line playing the forty nine ers, 941 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,439 Speaker 1: who have invested a boat load in the defensive line, 942 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: the Ravens awesome defensive line. Chris Jones. Literally, I don't 943 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: want to say Heath single handedly, but he was a 944 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: major reason in that Super Bowl the Chiefs won. Niners 945 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: couldn't block them. I play the Falcons like, how are 946 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: they going to rush the passer? And then even the 947 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: guy that they took in the second round. Everyone I've 948 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: talked to that literally does this for a living was like, 949 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe they took the kind of more of 950 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: a project over the Illinois pass rusher. I've had people 951 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: say it's they wasn't even close on their boards. In 952 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: regards to the Falcons selection of Pennix, is it possible 953 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: that the impending penalty for tampering with cousins will be 954 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: next year's first round pick? If Falcons leadership considered this 955 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: a probability, would they That's why they would reach for Pennix. 956 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: Pennix isn't a reach. That's the weird part of about 957 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: this conversation. Pennix in a vacuum, really good player. How 958 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: you could make the argument second best quarterback in this draft? 959 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: Obviously there are variables. Is a age's injury history, but 960 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: just on tape for two years, it doesn't get that 961 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: much better. Michigan game was tough, but fuck Michigan dominate. 962 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people made CJ. Stroud look pedestrian, So 963 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of is what it is. When originally signing Cousins, 964 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: the plan could have been a draft his replacement in 965 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. They would have to expedite that plan knowing 966 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: the chance that a twenty twenty five might be pick 967 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: in the mid fifties. I do think, Okay, they're talking 968 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: to Cousins quote unquote tampering, They're gonna get the first 969 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: round pick taken away. That feels like it'd be pretty 970 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: pretty penal. It feels like could be pretty extreme. I 971 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: personally think it's all stupid. Everyone's tampering. There's literally a 972 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: tampering period. And what do you think happening at the combine? 973 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: When do you think Cousins and the Falcons ball got 974 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: rolling with the outline of the contract. Do you think 975 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: it was two days before whatever that Wednesday on free 976 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: agency or do you think it was of the NFL 977 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: combine in February in early March. That's when everything happens. 978 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: That's when all these trades take place. That's when business happens. 979 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: I struggle with when leagues do this, when they get 980 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: mad when information gets leaked out, but we all know 981 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: what's going on. It just it's one of those things 982 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: that kind of pisses me off. I struggle. I think 983 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: it's so stupid. Now it's also just a reality that, yeah, 984 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: that they is the Yeah, could they for sure? Could 985 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: that have played a factor? Yeah, that's actually one of 986 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: the most logical reasons. If you go listen, we're gonna 987 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: get a first round pick taken away next year? When 988 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: are we going to have this opportunity? Make a little 989 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: more sense? But I I that seems pretty nuts, even 990 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: from Goodell take away their first round pick for just 991 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: talking to Cousins or having whoever on their team reach 992 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: out to him before the tampering period technically started. This 993 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: is Neil from the UK, curious what your take is 994 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. They didn't sign Henry during last season, 995 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: then they try and sign them this offseason, and now 996 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: they signed Zeke who has passed his prime, not in 997 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: every down back and is maybe a goal line threat, 998 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: short yardage player a best. It feels like they are 999 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: tanking instead of going all in. With the Giants and 1000 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: Commanders drafting well and the Eagles signing players to contracts 1001 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: are the Cowboys the fourth best team in the division? 1002 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: I would say obviously, injuries can derail things, you know, 1003 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: in this sport. The Cowboys are easily the second best 1004 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: team in this division as we sit here on May sixth. 1005 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: So the hype on the Cowboys when Jerry says going 1006 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: all in was hey, you've won twelve game for three 1007 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 1: years straight. How are you gonna get over that hump 1008 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: and finally be in the NFC Championship game? That he 1009 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sign anybody, and then he pushes back saying, well, I'm 1010 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: talking about signing her own, guys, Mike is gonna cost 1011 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: a lot of money, which we know Mike is going nowhere. 1012 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: This Dak situation, well, are you gonna extend Dak or 1013 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: are you just playing this out? Because if you're playing 1014 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: it out, I don't blame you. I would probably do 1015 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: that as well, Like you're situated under the contracts, you know, 1016 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: under the salary cap situation. With his I think his 1017 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: cap hits like fifty five million dollars, but still that 1018 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys with McCarthy should one hundred percent 1019 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: be better than Washington and Jade Daniels in the Giants 1020 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones. Are they better than the Eagles on paper? 1021 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: They are not. On paper, the Eagles have improved and 1022 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: on paper the Cowboys at best of just they neutral 1023 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: like they were running game last year. Let's not forget 1024 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard was a show of himself. He's proven to 1025 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: be a role guy. The good thing is if the 1026 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: one position everyone says you're gonna need is a running back, 1027 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: like you can find random guys. An undrafted free agent 1028 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: can pop. You can trade for a guy during training camp. 1029 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: If they had needed a tackle and had been drafted 1030 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: running backs and linebackers, I'd be like, yeah, you're not 1031 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: where you gonna find a tackle. I have a hard 1032 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: time ever being critical when you invest in the line 1033 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: of scrimmage because when you're dominant upfront O line D line, 1034 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: that can mask a lot of situations. The other thing 1035 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: that their D line is good, Like they got good dbs. 1036 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Bland really kind of became a player last year. Diggs 1037 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: comes back off the injury if he solid like those 1038 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: are two impact dbs with a good defensive line. If 1039 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: you've got a good offensive line, which they invested in 1040 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: A and Geyton right, that's his name. The Oklahoma offensive Lineman. 1041 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: They took Tyler Smith last year. He's a good player. 1042 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Still got Zach Martin, Like they got some serious talent upfront. 1043 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 1: You add Mike Zimmer, you lose dan Quinn. To me, 1044 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: that's the most fascinating part. Like, to me, Dallas should 1045 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: be very, very competitive to not just win the division, 1046 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: but be in the playoffs. They should be a wild 1047 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: card team. But dan Quinn is like a positive uplifting. 1048 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's intense, but I would not call him 1049 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: like a negative crudgeon. And I think Zimmer is an 1050 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: elite defensive coordinator. What he did in Minnesota, what he 1051 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: did with the Bengals when he was a coordinator. Mike 1052 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Zimmer knows what he's doing when it comes to defensive football. 1053 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: But he's kind of a throwback, Like it's kind of 1054 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: like nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties vibes. He's not mister happy 1055 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: go lucky. So from a personality standpoint, getting going from 1056 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: that to this is a lot different. Is a lot different. Honestly, 1057 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: it's not that different from Philly. Obviously, Fangio is a 1058 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: massive upgrade over to what they had last year. But 1059 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Vic's not mister happy go lucky either. And when they 1060 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: had some success with Jonathan Gannon, like Gannon's more of 1061 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: like the modern day Again, generations change, and I'm not 1062 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: saying Zimmer doesn't know football, but he's just the modern 1063 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: day player. Him and Micah's relationship is going to be 1064 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: something that's we're all going to talk about. It's tough 1065 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: because when your coaches, when your head coach is also 1066 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator or offensive coach, the defensive guy gets 1067 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot of just rain. Rightfully, so when you hire 1068 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Fangio or I saw with the Niners hired Demko, like 1069 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: they get to do with their they get to put 1070 01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: their stamp on it. But your positive or negative energy, 1071 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: it plays a huge factor to your unit. Now, defensive 1072 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: guys are used to getting yelled at a lot, but 1073 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: going from dan Quinn to Zimmer personality wise, does feel 1074 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: like a pretty strong swing. Could work, could be awesome, because, 1075 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: let's face it, a lot of people would listening to 1076 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: their Cowboys fans were like, did you see dan Quinn 1077 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: that game against the Packers? What the fuck are we 1078 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: talking about? Like, yeah, I'm not acting like dan Quinn 1079 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: is Vince Lombardi here, but he clearly resonated with his group, 1080 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and two years ago when they lost to the Niners 1081 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: in the second round, they easily could have won that game. 1082 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Dak was just atrocious. So maybe maybe it's really more 1083 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: on Dak playing well, which you could argue, is there 1084 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: are their weapons good enough? CD's a star, Ferguson's good. 1085 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: I just would you like Saquan or Christian McCaffrey. Of course, 1086 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 1: but we've seen a lot of teams win with the 1087 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: random backs. It's a little different Baltimore because Lamar can run, 1088 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: but who've been their star running backs the last couple 1089 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: of years. Look at the Chiefs are playing with now, 1090 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 1: they're more of a pass oriented offense. But Pajako they 1091 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: got him in the seventh round. That's the thing with 1092 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 1: the draft. We talk about the draft grades. It's like 1093 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: we see a lot of random guys that no one 1094 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: pays any attention to do in the fifth, sixth, seventh 1095 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: round and undrafted free agents that all of a sudden 1096 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: in October you're like, look at this guy. What's this 1097 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: guy's deal. Oh, he's a seventh round pick. Oh, this 1098 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: guy was an undrafted free agent. Obviously, all the hype 1099 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: goes to the top guys, and whenever you take linemen, 1100 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: especially offensive lineman high. It's kind of boring, let's face it. 1101 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 1: It's just this is a reality. When you take old 1102 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: lineman in the top like fifty picks, specifically with your 1103 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: first round pick, especially in the twenties, people just think 1104 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: it's people are get pissed off. But that's how you win. 1105 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: That's how you win. Do you think the Cowboys are 1106 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna be playing in the Super Bowl? No, But I've said 1107 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: this over and over about Dak. If he could just 1108 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: have a stretch where he gets hot for three weeks, 1109 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: they would have a chance. We've had three years now 1110 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: where he's had bad playoff games. You got the Ravens 1111 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: would not have won in twenty twelve if Flacco hadn't 1112 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: played at a high level. The Giants wouldn't have two 1113 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: super Bowls if Eli didn't get hot at the right time. 1114 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,439 Speaker 1: They need to find a way for Dak to get 1115 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: hot at the right time. He made huge plays all 1116 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: throughout the season, he played at a really high level, 1117 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 1: and then when the lights are the brightest he shits 1118 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: the bed. And I'm not gonna act like he can 1119 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: never just have even a two week stretch where all 1120 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden they're in the NFC Championship game. I 1121 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: do think he could. But the longer this goes, people 1122 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: are just gonna bet against him because he's been pretty 1123 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: consistent now that he leaves a little something to be desired. 1124 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: But you go back to his was his rookie year. 1125 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I think the year they lost at the Green Bay 1126 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Packers at home, and they were like twelve and four, 1127 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: thirteen and three and they lost Aaron Rodgers was unreal, 1128 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: but he was good. So he's had good two years ago. 1129 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the Bucks were kind of in shambles. The 1130 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: eight and nine Tom Brady year, he threw five touchdowns. 1131 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm not looking for five touchdowns, but can you 1132 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: just have back to back games where you don't throw 1133 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 1: any picks? We could talk until we're blue in the 1134 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 1: face about the running back, about Jerry's comments Dak can't 1135 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: just throw the ball to the He has five interceptions 1136 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: in three years in the three elimination games. I mean, 1137 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: when your defense is playing shitty and your quarterback has 1138 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: a half like he had, you had no chance three 1139 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: years ago go against the forty nine ers at home 1140 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: when the Niners were underdogs and they came in there, 1141 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: and beat it. He was not good either. So it's 1142 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the reason these quarterbacks get drafted so high. The reason 1143 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: the guys that get extensions to get so much money 1144 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: is because you're so predicated on them, And that's just 1145 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of the sport we're living in now. That guy 1146 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: his importance the pie chart unless your team, like this 1147 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: year Patrick Mahomes wasn't as dominant as he's been in 1148 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 1: the past. Obviously the team skill wise wasn't as good, 1149 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: but their team was much more balanced, their defense was elite. 1150 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: They didn't need him to be well. When Dak had 1151 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: an elite defense two years ago, I think they lost 1152 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: like seventeen to sixteen. I think that was a score 1153 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: two years ago. The forty nine ers can't get me 1154 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: twenty four points and you could get huh going up 1155 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: against Demko. I don't know. I just I think we 1156 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: spend so much time on all this stuff with the Cowboys. Like, 1157 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: to me, it gets down to Prescott. Can he be 1158 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: good in the biggest moments This year against the Eagles, 1159 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: he was awesome in the one game they lost, and 1160 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: he was awesome in the one game they won. Like, 1161 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 1: if he just plays well in big games, you got 1162 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: a chance if he can just play like a top 1163 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 1: seven eight guy, which he has moments when he's doing it. 1164 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: He has stretches when he's doing it, just doesn't happen 1165 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You need the guy or just dig 1166 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: deep and find a way to make plays. Party was 1167 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: very up and down in those first two playoff games 1168 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 1: against the Packers and the Lions, but in big spots 1169 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: when the Niners back, you know, we're against the wall, 1170 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 1: he made some huge plays with his legs, with his 1171 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 1: arms and just came through even though he was having 1172 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: shitty games. And Dak just hasn't found a way to 1173 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: do that. But I also get back to this with 1174 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they've drafted pretty well. So everyone shitting on 1175 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: Jerry like what's he talking about? What's he doing? Like 1176 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I actually, they've proven to have or should have proven 1177 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: to the fan base, like, hey guys, we know what 1178 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: we're doing on draft day. Look at our team. A 1179 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: lot of homegrown guys. Don't have a lot of like 1180 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 1: free agents on this squad kicking ass and taking names. 1181 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 1: Our best players Parsons, cd Zeke for a long time, 1182 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: Zach Martin the left tackles now on the Jets, bland digs, 1183 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: like we drafted all these cats we did. These weren't 1184 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: like random trades during the pre Like, No, these were 1185 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: guys we drafted in all sorts of rounds. Kind of 1186 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:33,719 Speaker 1: know what we're doing. Ferguson the tight end, who drafted him? Jerry? 1187 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: I know Jerry's not watching the film. Will McVeigh. You know, 1188 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys front office feels like most of their good 1189 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: players over the last three or four years have been 1190 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,959 Speaker 1: mainly homegrown talent. I would say, Howie and the Eagles 1191 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: is like more of a mix. They have a lot 1192 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: of guys. They got a homegrown talent, some guys that 1193 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,719 Speaker 1: have been there for a long time, but they also 1194 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: get like the ancillary pieces. Go get a sling, go 1195 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 1: get an aj Brown. Now they get Saquon. And if 1196 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 1: you want to say, why can't Jerry do that, that's fair. 1197 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: I saw someone wrote an article one thing, how he does? 1198 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I know the Niners do this. They do all these 1199 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: voidable years on these big contracts, so the cap hits 1200 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: are so small, but they're just kind of kicking the 1201 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: can down the road, and it puts you in these 1202 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 1: weird situations and then when you want to pivot like 1203 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,560 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers with Eric Armstead. You're kind of 1204 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: stuck and you got to eat a lot of money. 1205 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: So I think what the Cowboys. I think Cowboys are 1206 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 1: well run, I really do. We can be critical McCarthy, 1207 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: but I think their downfall has kind of been the 1208 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: quarterback in big spots. When the Eagles made the Super 1209 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,879 Speaker 1: Bowl a couple years ago, what happened Jalen was awesome. 1210 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he outplayed Mahomes in the Super Bowl. I 1211 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,639 Speaker 1: know they ended up losing, but it's sure as hell 1212 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: was not his fault. It was the defensive coordinator in 1213 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: the defense blowing coverages against Andy. It's like one of 1214 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Jalen's best games of his career. When you factor in 1215 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: the importance, it's easily the best game of his career. 1216 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: When you play well and you lose, I will never 1217 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 1: be critical Josh Allen has played well in playoff games. 1218 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: When he lost, that's losing playoff games, not playing well, 1219 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: and you're paying him so much money you need the 1220 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,719 Speaker 1: ROI on him, Like, look at some of these NBA teams. 1221 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Sons get rolled well. Of course they did. Kevin Durant 1222 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: was just not even close to goodenough. The Mavericks kick 1223 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 1: at everyone's ass. Well, no shit, they got Luca and 1224 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie dominating. So like your highest paid players have to 1225 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: excel in the biggest moments. The forty nine ers went 1226 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl last year. Christian McCaffrey, Nick Bosa, 1227 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, like their best players make a bunch of 1228 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 1: big plays. I can't. Obviously, you need some random guys 1229 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 1: to do some stuff, but I need my best player 1230 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 1: in the biggest games to dominate. I don't care what 1231 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: sport you play. Yankees always get bounced in the playoffs. 1232 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: Why because it feels like they're big hitters, don't do anything. 1233 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 1: Last year, the Phillies the last couple of years making runs. 1234 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Harper's hitting all these home runs in big spots. The 1235 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: Dodgers shit the bed in the playoffs, like, yeah, they're 1236 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,679 Speaker 1: big guns, don't come through. Clayton kershaff for a decade 1237 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: gets sheld in the playoffs. If he's throwing eight innings complete, 1238 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, seven to nine strikeouts probably goes the other way. 1239 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 1: You're very dependent in pro sports on your best players 1240 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: playing the best in big spots because you just can't 1241 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: depend on random guys to come through. It's gravy when 1242 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 1: they do. But you need the big guns to dominate. 1243 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna be good. You're gonna see like 1244 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: Micah cd all pros. Your young offensive linemen are high 1245 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 1: level starters, and Dak has a great season. It's really 1246 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: that simple that their team is more than good enough. 1247 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't care. The media obviously overreacts about them because 1248 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys, but I would not act like the 1249 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,640 Speaker 1: world is just coming to an end in Dallas when 1250 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: it comes to football. Appreciate everyone listening the volume