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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March fourteenth, for closing in on the IDEs of March.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves the middle of March. March Madness begins in

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Speaker 1: about forty eight hours. Very very excited. You know, I

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Speaker 1: love the tournament. There was a time where I would

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Speaker 1: do whatever I could to get out of work, call

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Speaker 1: in sick. I had this awesome routine where I would

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Speaker 1: start to cough at the beginning of the week or

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Speaker 1: sniffle or something like. I was starting to get a cold.

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Speaker 1: And then of course Wednesday night Thursday, Oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: feel good. I gotta stay home. And then I would

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Speaker 1: just stay at home and watch the games. Now things

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Speaker 1: have changed. We're gonna be on air for the Herd

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Speaker 1: during the NCAA tournament. It'll be tough, but I've already

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Speaker 1: got the studio making sure we got the games on there,

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Speaker 1: so I'll be watching. Hopefully all the big NFL news

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Speaker 1: is getting out out of the way this week. My gosh,

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Speaker 1: that was a crazy Monday, absolutely bonkers. We have a

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Speaker 1: monster podcast here on or Tuesday, I know, Tuesday March.

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Speaker 1: You think things are slow, folks on the reel, This

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament is like taking a backseat big time to

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Speaker 1: NFL free agency, where crazy stuff is happening. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Aaron Rodgers is still at this very moment,

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Speaker 1: leaving the Jets twisting in the wind like losers. Shockingly,

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Speaker 1: nobody has made a move on Lamar Jackson, which I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get conspiratorial, but it's come on, looks

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And then the other one, which is not

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Speaker 1: good news, is you know it's funny, Well it's not funny.

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Speaker 1: But last week on the podcast, I said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on with John morand he's

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Speaker 1: away from the team. It's very mysterious. Some JABRONI had

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Speaker 1: put on Twitter that he goes to rehab, but the

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Speaker 1: And then what happens. Adrian Wognimowski comes out on Monday

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Speaker 1: he's it's pretty clear he's in rehab now. And again,

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Speaker 1: this is an NFL podcast today, Obviously there's really not

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Speaker 1: that big of an NBA story. I'll say this, John Morant,

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like he will fifty three games, Okay. He

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Speaker 1: signed that massive contract where if he made all NBA

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Speaker 1: three games. I know he's been great this season. That's

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Speaker 1: sixty four percent of the games. Can you make all NBA?

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Speaker 1: Historically they will not give you the nod. Now, if

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Speaker 1: stretch run for the team, what are you think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do for voters? So again, John Morant's got a

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Speaker 1: lot to figure out. That's more important than money and

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Speaker 1: its contract. But we're talking about because he could not

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Speaker 1: his crew, he cost himself potentially thirty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's more money than ninety nine percent of this podcast

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Speaker 1: will ever make in their life, and John Morant cost

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Speaker 1: it potentially to himself by not being able to stop

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Speaker 1: partying and live the life and all that crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Just an unbelievable meltdown. Hopefully John Moran improves and gets

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Speaker 1: the regular season. He's got a family issue that's personal.

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Speaker 1: I don't want this dude. He is clearly an attention guy.

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Speaker 1: So now we go back to this great Peter Quinn quote,

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Speaker 1: good luck trying to get Lamar Jackson to play on

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Speaker 1: the non exclusive tag. I mean, Daniel, if Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: disrespectful by them. It's disappointing that. Now best case scenario

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Speaker 1: my life that we're saying, UM, you know, is it

423
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: you know, do you want to test the portal? Do

424
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: you want to see where you can go? But UM,

425
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: I think from from the beginning of my senior year,

426
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to stay Colgate. And I'm

427
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: glad I did. I mean, we want another championship. I

428
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: can't complain. UM. I feel like a lot of people

429
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: transfer thinking that you know, something's in a come with it.

430
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: But the grass isn't always greener. Um, So I'm happy

431
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: I stayed with coach Langele in the program. Um, I'm

432
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: just curious, what was the off season? Like? You know,

433
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: you guys win another league title, you go to the

434
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 1: Stay Tournament, you hit five threes on the biggest stage.

435
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, at what point do you are you like

436
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: recognized around campus every single place you go. It's a

437
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: small school gets a tiny school. Um. And because basketball

438
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: players in general are bigger people, we're very recognizable on campus.

439
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: And we realized that we had great support last year

440
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: and this year of the team. Not to say that

441
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: we're like celebrities on campus, but especially right when we

442
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: come back from March on this it's when people are

443
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: getting back from spring break and there's definitely a lot

444
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: of buzz on campus. It's a really cool time to

445
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: be a part of it. That's why hopefully, I mean

446
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: this year, if we can pull off an upset win,

447
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: I think that that would be even even better for

448
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: the school obviously, So um yeah, it's definitely a cool

449
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: time of year. I feel like a lot of people

450
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: are tuned in to col get basketball this time of year,

451
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: which is which is like a great thing for our team.

452
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: You just mentioned spring break and I was like, holy

453
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: count he's probably never had a spring break at college.

454
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: You're missing out. But I'm sure some people say, dude,

455
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: spring break for you is every week walking around what

456
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: do you say? Six five shooter like one of the

457
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: best players in program history, Like, come on, every week

458
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: is spring break for you? Right? I'd much rather be

459
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: playing in Des Moines, Iowa than going to Camcoon, So

460
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: that's how I look at it. De mo By the way,

461
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: have you ever been to a Des Moines? Never been

462
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: to Iowa? It's funny because my freshman year we're in Columbus,

463
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: and then the COVID year was Indianapolis, and then last

464
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: year we're in Milwaukee. So we've been to the Midwest

465
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: all four years, which is like kind of I mean,

466
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: it's cool, but I kind of wish we were got

467
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: like a California or go down south or something. But

468
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: I'm sure Saint Mary's is not thrilled they have to

469
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: come all the way across the country, you know, like

470
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: you know that that's a tough one. Um. Let me

471
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: ask you about the Syracuse game real quick. You had thirty. Um.

472
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know where that ranks in terms of the

473
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: school's victory, but obviously it was a big one for

474
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: you guys. You know, talk about being in the zone

475
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: against Syracuse, a school who you know could have had

476
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: you baby back in the day. Yes, Syracuse, I mean

477
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: we beat them last year too. Um, this year, it's

478
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: a really good matchup. First because they play the zone. Um.

479
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll be playing anymore in that

480
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: coach Bahamun, but they play the zone and we're if

481
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: you look at we're we're ranked. We're literally ranked as

482
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: the number one shooting team in the country. So it's

483
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: it's a good matchup for us. And I just kind

484
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: of got hot. M had six threes in the first half,

485
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: just um yeah, and then the team, the team got hot. Overall,

486
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: we shot really well from three, so uh, it's it's

487
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: it's weird because Syracuse plays in a dome. Um, so

488
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: the death perception is very different from what we're usually

489
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: used to. But once you get your first couple of shots.

490
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: I missed my first couple, and then after that you

491
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of get used to it and then uh, yeah

492
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: it just got hot there. Yeah, but you just forget

493
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: the misses and then you hit six and a half.

494
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, you know, you know you're gonna have

495
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: to take ten to fifteen threes against them no matter what,

496
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: because we're gonna take everybody. All our shooters are gonna

497
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: take eight to ten threes in that game. That's just

498
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: how it is. Like we get a lot of threes up.

499
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun. It's honestly like one of

500
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: the most fun games of the year. You just get

501
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: to shoot against the zone. What would you call your offense?

502
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, is it five out? Is that what it is?

503
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: We want a lot of five outs stuff. I always say, like,

504
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: we're a really hard team to scout. We don't run

505
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: that much stuff. It's a lot of just like read

506
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: and react, playoff our bigs, a lot of dribble handoffs

507
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: and ball screens kicking out the shooters. It's not a

508
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: lot of like set plays at all. So I think

509
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: it makes us hard to scout and a little dangerous. Yeah,

510
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: but I asked that because like Texas, all you're hearing

511
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: when you hear about this game is, oh, Colgate's gonna

512
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: get destroyed their fourteen point dogs. Texas has the athletes.

513
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: None of that five out stuff is gonna work. And

514
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, didn't they say that about the Wisconsin

515
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: game too. I mean, Wisconsin had a lottery pick in Davis, right,

516
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: they got they had some players. I think this year

517
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: is definitely more people are overlooking us. I think last

518
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: year we're kind of like a trendy upset, yes, and

519
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: then this year I feel like everywhere I'm looking is

520
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: like Texas in the final four, Texas in the championship game.

521
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: So I actually kind of like that though. I feel

522
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like going under the radar will be better for us.

523
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: Not that there was pressure on the game last year,

524
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: but definitely because a lot of people were picking us,

525
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: it was just like it felt like there was more noise.

526
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: So this year we can really just focus on us,

527
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: focus on the scout, and try and shock the world

528
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: because I feel like no one really is predicting us

529
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: this year, and nobody at all, and nobody's on you guys,

530
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: which is a good place to be. But I want

531
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: to ask about, like, over last weekend, right, so your guys,

532
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: season is done, It's tough to scout without knowing the bracket,

533
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: Like did you just watch games all across the border

534
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: where you just kind of like being a college kid

535
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: having fun, a mixture of both. We got back on

536
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: the court, so we played Wednesday, and we were back

537
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: on the court Friday, Saturday, Sunday doing workouts, practicing, and

538
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: a lot of it is just like we don't know

539
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: who we're gonna play, but we know it's going to

540
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: be a bigger and more fletic team a team we

541
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: played Auburn this year. It's gonna be a team closer

542
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: to that than any of the Patriot League teams obviously.

543
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: So just starting to like tune in on playing against

544
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like more pressure and playing against more athleticism and um

545
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: pressure releases and that kind of stuff. And then, uh,

546
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: literally like right after we found out we were playing Texas,

547
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: to all our coaches went home and watched like five

548
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: games immediately and just really prepared. I watched a couple

549
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: of games last night. I've been watching them all year

550
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: because I'm just like a college basketball junkie, so I

551
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: already knew, like I know their team pretty well, um,

552
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: but just to like really kind of focus in on

553
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: their on their game and stuff. So yeah, it's like

554
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: we were prepared anyway for a team like Texas. But

555
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: now that we know who they are and who we're

556
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: playing against, it's getting more specific. Yeah. So they were

557
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: Ken Palm Darling as you know, right, top twenty in

558
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: offense and defense, great athletes. I think five of their

559
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: top six guys or seniors. They got a couple of transfers.

560
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: But they're like a veteran team, kind of like you guys, sure,

561
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: I do. I mean they kind of They had that

562
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: adversity with Chris Beard the coach mid season. Their coach

563
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: has never been in an NCAA tournament game as a

564
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: head coach, you know, so I do wonder if that

565
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of works against them. But Texas, all they have

566
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: a history of underachieving in March. We've seen this before,

567
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: like great run in the Big twelve and then they

568
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: kind of flop. What did you see in scouting against

569
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: them that they do great? And I'm sure you don't

570
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: want to say the things they do poorly, but anything

571
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: you saw on the tape of watching this team, yeah,

572
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: I think you hit on the nose. They're definitely a

573
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: well put together team. I think they have really good

574
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: guard play, which is an important this time of year.

575
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: Those couple of guys even guards coming off the bench

576
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: are really good. They're they're athletic, but they're not like

577
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: overly huge. I guess they don't have any like seven

578
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Footagas footballs, but they're really good. In transition, they forced

579
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, so I mean, it's pretty our scout.

580
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: What we need to do is pretty obvious. We need

581
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: to not turn the ball over and make threes. I mean,

582
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: that's how we play, so I think that's the easiest

583
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: way to put it. Um, that's gonna be way tougher

584
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: to do obviously on Thursday, but we're excited, We're ready

585
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: to go. So you mention the turnovers when you guys

586
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: played Auburn, it wasn't really turnovers. What would you say happen?

587
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the game was a long time ago,

588
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: December might as well have been last season. But you

589
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: know it was on the road. It was a true

590
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: road game, right, so it wasn't an easy one Auburn. Auburn.

591
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I played there twice now, I mean it's definitely the

592
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: hardest place I've ever played, just because that gym gets crazy.

593
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Those fans are crazy. I think it's always different at

594
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: a neutral site. Texas obviously have a lot of fans,

595
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: but neutral site game in terms of even even things

596
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: like the refs, there's just like last bias honestly, Like, honestly,

597
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: when you're playing at Auburn, you don't expect to get

598
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: a whistle at all. So I think those like little things.

599
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Auburn was a definitely a tough team, just like athletic

600
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: and big and really hard nos on defense. But I

601
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: think that playing in that game and struggling in that

602
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: game actually does help us going into Texas things that

603
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: we can learn from it. Well, So what specifically the

604
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: thing like? I mean, you know they are a physical team,

605
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: but that's Texas too, righte. The kid Bishop, I feel

606
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: like he's like a football player. I remember being when

607
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: he was at Creighton. I was, I love their team,

608
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: But um, like, what did you learn from the Auburn loss.

609
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: We had to take a lot of tough shots in

610
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: that game, just because their defensive intensity and defensive pressure. Um,

611
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I think finding ways to have pressure releases, especially through

612
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: our bigs, I think we'll be key for us being

613
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: able to attack them down low a little bit. I

614
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: think we'll be good for us. And then obviously just

615
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: hitting shots we didn't hit enough shots against Auburn. We

616
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: have to hit shots to win a game like this.

617
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621
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: a tough question. You are obviously a great, prolific three

622
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: point shooter, You're very good two point shooter, and the

623
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: free throws. What what's going on there? I mean, it's

624
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: tough because you know shooters, you're supposed to be awesome

625
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: from the line. Dude, I'm looking here, Tucker. Fifty percent?

626
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? It's definitely mental, defe It's definitely mental.

627
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Something I definitely struggle with this year obviously, But I

628
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: feel like in this game, because there's no pressure on us,

629
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: there's not much I've changed it up. I've tried to

630
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: change things all year long, tried to work on it,

631
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: and I think I have something that feels better now

632
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: and feels it's a little bit good that I'm working

633
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: on the past couple of days. But it's really just

634
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: not overthinking it, trying to stay in the moment and

635
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: not worry about make or miss. Just go up there

636
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: and shoot my shot. I'm looking at you. You're working

637
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: on it last couple days of looking at your final

638
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: game in the tournament against Colgate over two from the line.

639
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Now you're not going on the line of ton obviously

640
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: as a three point shooter. I'm curious the Curry Dame

641
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Lillard like thirty foot stuff. You don't see as much

642
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: of that in college basketball, but when I watch some

643
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: of your stuff, you can let it fly from deep.

644
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Is that something you actively practice? Yeah, definitely work on

645
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: deep shots. And I think that definitely gonna be really

646
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: important a game like this because there are gonna be

647
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: times where we're so pressure and they're so up on us,

648
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to take deeper. I had a

649
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: really deep one against Wisconsin last year that went in. Yeah,

650
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely something I work on. Sometimes it's just

651
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: like in the moment thing, like you just gotta take

652
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: a deep shot and hope and hope that it goes in.

653
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: But we work on deep shots. We have a lot

654
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: of guys that can make deep threes, and that's what

655
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: makes us really dangerous too. That's part of it. I

656
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: gotta ask and I don't know how if you're able

657
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: to answer this, but you know your buddy is mister

658
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: shot quality. He is able to dig into all the numbers.

659
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's been hitting you up in Hey, this

660
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: is the weakness on Texas and he can find holes

661
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: in the zone and all that fun stuff without revealing

662
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: any game plans. I am curious how much do you

663
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: guys lean on data as college kids. We know the

664
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: NBA is heavy on the on the data data however

665
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: you say it, But in terms of college besides looking

666
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: at ken palm, I mean analytically, is it a massive

667
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: part of offense and defense. I think for our team

668
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: it's something that our coaches focus on definitely more right

669
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: when we found our playing in Texas, Simon was texting me,

670
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: letting giving me some inside information. Obviously. I mean, we

671
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: know that they're a really good team analytically, so a

672
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: lot of it was saying stuff that they're really good

673
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: at it. But that's stuff that are our coach is

674
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: definitely really focused on key and on and help us

675
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: to work through, like these are the shots that we

676
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: want to force them into, these are the shots that

677
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: we could potentially get. So I think our players aren't

678
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: that worried about it, but our coaches definitely look into it.

679
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to do at this point. Like

680
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: at this point and the way that things have evolved,

681
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: it's super important to take into account everything. So yeah,

682
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: so Simon definitely feeding me some information. I don't know

683
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: how much of it I'm actually gonna be thinking about

684
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: in the game, but it's important for sure. Yeah, I'm

685
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: sure you have other things on the mind. I mean, listen,

686
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: this is you know this however far you guys go.

687
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, this is the end of college hoops for you.

688
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sure it's been an awesome run. Have

689
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: you thought at all about post career like it looked

690
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: into international basketball? You know? I hear Australia has this

691
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: incredible league, the NBL. Happen to be a part owner

692
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: of a team there. But have you thought about playing

693
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: internationally or maybe just take you know what, I'm going

694
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: to go into finance or whatever does he want to

695
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: go into. No, I definitely want to keep playing. Um,

696
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I've been I've heard from agents over the past couple

697
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: of months, but I've been telling everybody that I just

698
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: want to wait till after the season, focused on getting

699
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: a championship, going back to instate tournament and then worry

700
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: about this that stiff later on. But the goal right now,

701
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: he's definitely to continue playing. Um, wherever that happens to be,

702
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: that's where it will be. But I want to keep

703
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: playing basketball. It's it's the thing I love to do.

704
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: How did your family feel about that? They're very supportive

705
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: they playing. Yeah, for sure. I mean I have a

706
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: lot of X teammates that are playing overseas, playing in Europe,

707
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: who obviously there's a lot of ups and downs playing

708
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: in Europe, but um, overall, I think a lot of

709
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: them are positive about the experience and just in continuing

710
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: to play basketball for to get paid, I mean, um,

711
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: there's it's it's hard to find something better. Like like

712
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: you said, going into finance doesn't sound very appealing to me,

713
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: whereas playing basketball for money does so well. There's always

714
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: always men's leagues you can join and dominate. We could

715
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: sure use you on our team out here in La.

716
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: Uh I see your highlights. Sometimes I gotta I gotta

717
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: brag about my highlights. But there's there's not Listen, we

718
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: need a shooter, um, not another shooter, but uh, I

719
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: gotta also see. So the last two years, fifteen Seeds

720
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: have pulled upsets Oral Roberts I think Ohio State and

721
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: then Saint Peter's over Ukum. Not many people gave either

722
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: of those teams a chance. You're I think a bigger

723
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: dog than Oral Roberts. I don't remember the Saint Peter's line. Um.

724
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Does any of that stuff play into

725
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: your head? Are the are the coaches on Colgate putting

726
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: together a reel of fifteen over two upsets? It's more

727
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: I think the fact that anybody can win any of

728
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: these games, that's in our head. Like you immediately look

729
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: at the bracket, you're playing against Texas. They just won

730
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: the Big twelve Championship tournament championship. They're one of the

731
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: best teams in the country. It's like your immediate reaction

732
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: is like, like, shoot, we have to play Texas. But uh,

733
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: if you kind of look at the positive side and

734
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: see that teams the past have done it, teams have

735
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, created scouting reports, are found ways to win

736
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: those games, than it like just gives you more. I

737
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: feel like of a positive mindset going into the game,

738
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: like we have nothing to lose. We know it's possible.

739
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: We know we're good enough to win a game if

740
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: we play them, you know, almost perfectly, I guess. But

741
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: so yeah, so I think, not that we're gonna watch

742
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: games like that, but it definitely gives you something in

743
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: the back of your mind, like this is possible. It

744
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: gives you some some motivation, I guess for sure. I

745
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: gotta ask here at the end, you know, like I'm sure,

746
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: and if I'm wrong here, feel free to tell me.

747
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing most of your career coming up in

748
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: basketball with our high school youth leagues, at some point

749
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you guys would step out of the area and face

750
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: a team, maybe an urban team that was just running

751
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: you off the court. And I'm guessing whether it was

752
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: high school, AAU, maybe even early college. You know, you

753
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: guys were told, hey, you're good, but there's a ceiling

754
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: here for a guy who can just shoot and athletically

755
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: you're not there. This is another one of those moments,

756
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, for sure, I think if you look

757
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: at the makeup of our team, a lot of shooters,

758
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: a lot of smart guys that know how to play

759
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: the game, but not a lot of athleticism, not too

760
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: much size. We have some size, but not a lot

761
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: of like long wingspans and things like that that you

762
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: might look for like the NBA combine um. But I

763
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: think we can use some of those things to our advantage.

764
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: So I think we can use um things that we've

765
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: been doing all year time in terms of our mentality

766
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: and how we outsmart teams to potentially pull up the upset.

767
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna keep continuing

768
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: to do we've done all year and hopefully we get

769
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: the result that we want. And it's not like Syracuse

770
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: isn't an athletic run and jump team. They got a

771
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: bunch of dudes. I just look at it as like,

772
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure for when you were coming up, you know,

773
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: oh man, i'd love to play in an NCAA tournament, right,

774
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: And then you get there and all right, I think

775
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: the journey continues. This isn't the end, This is not

776
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, the destination just keeps moving forward and like

777
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: a win here. I mean, you know, Tucker, I don't know.

778
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: I'm the kind of guy who dreams about myself being

779
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: the hero in basketball games. I don't know you're still

780
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: doing that now that you've been the hero a lot.

781
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always said when I was growing up,

782
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: my dream is playing March Madness. I think most basketball

783
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: players dreams as a play and one NCAA tournament, just one,

784
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: just one game. And just the fact that I've been

785
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: in three and bound a playing on the fourth is

786
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: like it's kind of overwhelming and it's hard to even

787
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: think about. I feel like a couple of months down

788
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: the road, I'll be able to really process it. But

789
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: but to win a game too, I mean that would

790
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: that would be like icing on the cake. So yeah,

791
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: that's hopefully it happens. We'll see, all right, man, Well,

792
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: I know you guys got the snowstorm, you're battling to

793
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: get out of town and get to De Moines. Do

794
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: you think there'll be a cool gate contingent there or not? Really,

795
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: I think it'll be pretty good. I Mean last year

796
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, at like almost a true road game against Wisconsin,

797
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: we had we had pretty we had a pretty good

798
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: fan section and they got really loud when we went

799
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: on that run. So, um, I think there's coolgate fans

800
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: all over. I already know like a lot of family

801
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: members and the team has a lot of family members

802
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: that are going so um. Hopefully they'll be the loudest

803
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: ones in the building, and then hopefully the non the

804
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: non Texas fans will get behind us, the Penn State

805
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: and Texas at M fans will get behind us. So um,

806
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, we're excited. I think there's gonna be I

807
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: think it's just gonna be a fun atmosphere no matter

808
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to think. Was it two thousand and

809
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: twenty one that you guys played like Arkansas, Yes, that's right,

810
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Arkansas. You guys were awesome

811
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: in the first half. Remember that, well obvious fourteen we're

812
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: up fourteen. Yes, that is that is when that game

813
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest regrets, I guess you could say,

814
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: just because of how the game won up fourteen the

815
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: first half. Right yeah, they came all the way back

816
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: and took the lead at halftime, and then the second

817
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: half was kind of back and forth until at the

818
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: very end. I think the core of that team ended

819
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: up beating Gonzaga last year, Right yeah, they were. They

820
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: the guys that came back were they were pretty good.

821
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: There's still a couple of guys on the team, like

822
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Deebo Davis. I think it's still there. Um, but yeah,

823
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: they had a lot of studs. That was a really

824
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: good team. It was the mosest Moody year when yeah

825
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Mojes movie, that's right. Yeah man, that guy. I remember

826
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: that game because you know, no, no offense I did.

827
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: When you guys were up big I did bet Arkansas

828
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: getting points. I think at that point, well listen, I

829
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: mean up fourteen, come on, but it's so you you

830
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: faced the SEC and then last year the Big ten

831
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: and now Big twelve. They're really rounding it out for you,

832
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: all the all the top tier guys. Fun. Man, it's exciting.

833
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: It's exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. So yeah, we appreciate it. Um,

834
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: and hopefully we can pull it off. We'll see. Thanks

835
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: for taking the time, man, all right, take it easy,

836
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: all right, Jason, thank you. All right. See