1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: by my partner at Everything Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. Coming to 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at Landboufield to preview Sunday's 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Packers game against the Arizona Cardinals. It will be a 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: three to twenty five pm Central Time kickoff from Glendale, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Arizona and Wes. This Cardinals team is two and four, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna rattle off a bunch of numbers to 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: you right now. Sixteen to fifteen at San Francisco, twenty 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: three to twenty against Seattle, twenty two to twenty one 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: against Tennessee, and thirty one to twenty seven at Indianapolis. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Those are the opponents and scores the last four weeks. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: As the Cardinals are on this four game losing streak, 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: they have found every way imaginable to lose games in 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: which they had victory within their grasp. This is not, 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's it is a two and four 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: football team, but it's not a two and four football team. 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: This is a squad that is much closer to being 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: at the top of the NFC than it is to 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: the bottom based on how they have played most of 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: the time. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Mike, and I also think the biggest 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: lesson you can take from this isn't necessarily the opponent 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: that the Green bit Packers are going to face when 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: they walk into that stadium on Sunday. It's another example 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: of just how difficult it is to win in this league, 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: and really the narrow margin between you know, the best 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: teams in the league and the ones that are taking 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: up you know, the back end of this thing. Look 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: at it this way, right, four teams the NFC have 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: losing records, Arizona's among them. The other twelve or five 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: hundred are better. Again, we're early in this thing. There's 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: a long way to go. But I think when you 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: look at the Cardinals injuries that they've dealt with this season, 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: particularly in the backfield, we're both Trey Benson and John 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: Connor are out. Connor's not coming back this year. He's 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: their usually their lead dog. Marvin Harrison has the concussion 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: last week. Kyler Murray misses that game as well. There's 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: so many things that in addition to these very narrow 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: losses that have kind of been working against them. But 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you are what your 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: record says, and I take that lesson to what the 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Packers have accomplished at this point this year. This is 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: why you just the only thing you can work on 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: or worry about is winning that game in letting the 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: record speak for itself. Because right now the Cardinals are 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: who we. 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: Thought they were. That's okay, that's not bad though. 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: I just realized midway through that that was Danny Green 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: when he was the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Yes it was. You weave that in there very nicely. 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: But know what jumps out to me is not just 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: these close scores and looking at the details of these 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: games and how they've lost them, but three of the 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: opponents they've lost to in these last four weeks nine, 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Colts. These are all teams that 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: have either four or five wins on the season. I mean, 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: they have been really close to beating good teams and 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: they're looking at the Packers coming in another good team, 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and this Cardinal squad is going to give is going 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: to give Green Bay everything it can handle. There is 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: uncertainty at the quarterback position. Kyler Murray has been dealing 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: with a foot injury. Apparently he's been listed as limited 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: injury report as far as his practice participation this week. 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Jacobe Burssett took over for Murray last week. They became, 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways a different offense. Brissett ends 68 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: up throwing for three hundred and twenty yards against the 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts on the road, and that's one hundred yards 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: more than Murray has thrown four in any game so 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: far this season. And it does present a challenge, as 72 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: you've mentioned in some of your writings this week, it 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: does present a challenge for the Packer defense because it's 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: not just oh, okay, there might be, you know, two 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: different guys who could start at quarterback, but it's two 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: guys who play the game in a very very different way, 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and that does become a challenge. And you know, I'm 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: guessing that we may not hear for quite a while 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: yet exactly what the decision is going to be at quarterback, 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: because it's to the Cardinals benefit to keep the Packers guessing. 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's fee of those things that Adam Scheffer 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: is gonna be tweeting out at like two in the 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: morning yesday. 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: How that goes these days? 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Listen, I've said it for years, man, I'll never forget 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: sitting in mcgeorge's into peer watching while eating wings. Jacoby 87 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Brissett make his first start for the New England Patriots 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: in a pinch, in a very big pinch where they 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: were missing not only Tom Brady, but I believe also 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo in that game, and he shined. And if 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: you look at his career numbers, Brissett's a guy that 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: has always been sort of on the cusp of being 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: a starting quarterback in this league, but never really truly 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: got the opportunity sometimes where it's like, Okay, we're signing you, 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: you're the guy for five weeks and then there's a 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: draft pick or somebody else we're going to turn to. 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: But in that game, it showed you why the Cardinals 98 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: wanted to add him this year. You see what he 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: brings to that team and to throw for three hundred 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: and twenty yards two touchdowns. I mentioned the statistic when 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: we were doing our three Things video. Those are numbers 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: that Kyler Murray has posted once in the last three years. Now. 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: Murray adds a lot as a runner too. Yeah, but 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: it just shows you the dichotomy there between their two 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: playing styles. This is not a situation where you had 106 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: RG three backing up Lamar Jackson. This is a completely 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: different type of quarterback. So, as Evan Williams was talking 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: to us about in the locker room, the Packers didn't 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: exactly have their their scout jerseys figured out yet, so 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: there was a lot of the players going back to 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: the coaches being like, okay, wait, so which quarterback is 112 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: this depending on what their scheme was in what they 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: were preparing for because of how different they are. Murray, 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: if he does play, that's their leading rusher this season. 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: He's the only guy with over one hundred rushing yards 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: at all that's currently on the active roster. And then 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: in addition to the fact that they lost Connor, they 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: lost Benson Amari Demarcato. He also went out last week, 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: who was sort of there. One of the guys that 120 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: was factoring into that with Bam Knight. 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: And Marcato was the guy who had like the seventy 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: yard run against Tennessee where then he lets go of 123 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: the ball before the goal line, and that play was 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: one of a couple that ended up costing him a 125 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: victory there against the Titan. 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I honestly think it might have 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: been his only touch last week that he ended up 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: getting injured on. So it's just been a lot that 129 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: the Cardinals has been weathering early this season. You know, 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior was kind of in the crosshairs a 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: little bit because the drop issues, the drops that turned 132 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: in interceptions. It again, it just shows you how narrow 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: that that is. And in some of the hallmarks too 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: that made this Cardinals offense really good hadn't been there. 135 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: Trey McBride hasn't been the same type of prolific red 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: zone player, touchdown target that he'd been last year. He's 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: still getting some yards, he's still obviously their top playmaker, 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: but does everything's just to tick off in as much 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: respect as we do show and we should show to 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: the Cardinals and how they played across the board, it's 141 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: a pretty average group. I mean, offensively they're in the twenties. 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Defensively they're in the twenties. There isn't one for turnover margin, 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: they're at zero. There isn't like one thing that they're 144 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: doing particularly well. So when you're not having success in 145 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: one big area. When it comes down to crunch time, 146 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: you can kind of see why they found themselves in 147 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: these positions to get picked off. 148 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you mentioned the two weapons. They're two biggest 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: weapons in the passing game. Marvin Harrison Junior and then 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: tight end Trade McBride. Now Harrison, to our knowledge, is 151 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol, but he was listed as a 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: limited participant in practice so he could be on his 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: way back and be available on Sunday. Up the numbers 154 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Harrison and McBride combined so far this year fifty nine catches, 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty five yards, four touchdowns. That is 156 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: pretty close to half of all of their passing production. 157 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Whether it's been Brissett or Murray at quarterback, those two 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: guys account for about half of what they do through 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: the air. So it's it's pretty obvious where you, you know, 160 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: target your defensive resources against this offense. On the defensive 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: side of the ball, Josh Sweat five sacks, but really, 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: the I think kind of the straw that stirs the 163 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: drink on defense for them is the ageless wonder Kalaeis Campbell, 164 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: who has three sacks but is far and away their 165 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: leader in pressures quarterback pressures so far this year. Now, 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: take nothing away from from Buddha Baker, the safety back there. 167 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: He's also a big piece of that defense. He doesn't 168 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: have any interceptions so far this year. You know he's 169 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: out there hunting for one, So keep an eye on 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker as well. But man kalais Campbell. That guy 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: just I mean, what is he now? Thirty nine? 172 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: Thirty nine years old? 173 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Thirty nine and he just keeps getting it done every year. 174 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Wherever he's playing, this guy is a factor in the 175 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: middle of anybody's defense, on the interior of the defensive line. 176 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: He's he's just a flat out tough customer. 177 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: In no disrespect to Kalayas at all. The guy was 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: incredibly effective here the last three seasons yet both and 179 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean when he stops in Baltimore, Atlanta, and Miami. 180 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: But when he went back to Arizona this year, it 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: kind of felt like it was going to be that 182 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: retirement tour signing, right when guys go back home. I mean, 183 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: this guy is obviously like an Arizona Cardinals Hall of 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Fame or absolute legend, and everyone thought he'd signed late 185 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: when he went to Jacksonville and then he just kept 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: producing and producing. But here he is now at nine 187 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: quarterback hits three sacks at a position that isn't always 188 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: known for that type of production. This is a guy 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: now in his career is over one hundred and ten 190 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: career sacks over the course of this thing, a journey 191 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: that began for him in two thousand and eight, and 192 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: probably the thing that's most impressive to me two hundred 193 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: and what is he up to now? Two hundred and 194 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: sixty six games played in the NFL regular season. I mean, 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: defensive football players do not do that. We talked a 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: lot about Mercedes in the run that he got in 197 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: at tight end. But for Campbell to be doing this 198 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: at this level and staying healthy throughout most of it 199 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: and still being that prolific, I mean, they only built 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: a couple human beings like him. 201 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 202 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: I don't have any lists in front of me, unfortunately, 203 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: but I would like to know how many interior defensive 204 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: linemen in the history of the NFL have hit triple 205 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: digit sacks, have hit one hundred sacks in their career. 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean he might be at that. I don't know, 207 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: he might be at the top of the list, I 208 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: mean Aaron Donald. I don't know where Aaron Donald ended up. 209 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: He probably is, you know, the guy at the top. 210 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: Of the Donald ended up at He ended up at 211 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: one to eleven. 212 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: So Campbell's Campbell's right there. 213 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: Campble's thirty six in all right, like in NFL since 214 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: nineteen two NFL history. 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just a remarkable player. All right, Well, 216 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: let's jump right into it. Keys to victory here for 217 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers on Sunday again. It will be 218 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: a three to twenty five Central Time kickoff from Glendale, Arizona. 219 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: What jumps to the forefront of your mind, Wes when 220 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: it comes to what it will take for the Packers 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: to leave the desert with a four one on one record. 222 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: You know, we close the show on two zero. Was like, 223 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: I had some stuff I wanted to say about the defense. 224 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 3: We kind of ran out of time. I'm going to 225 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: bring it back to that a little bit. Let's go. 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how Jeff Hafley sorts it out. 227 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: And I am not a coach. I'm not a defensive coach. 228 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: I think Eddrin Cooper's having a fantastic season. I think, 229 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: you know, Xavier McKinney is a very important player on 230 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: the safety in the back end. I just my thing 231 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: has been, I wonder if there's ways to get them closer. 232 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: To the football. 233 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: The difficult balance that Green Bay is trying to strike 234 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: right now is you got two guys and Kay Walker 235 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: and Eddrin Cooper who can both get after the quarterback. Yeah, 236 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: but you also now have Micah Parsons. You have a 237 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: guy and Rashan Gary who could play eighty percent of 238 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: the snaps easy on the edge. You're currently without Devonte 239 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: Wyatt inside, so you're losing some of your interior pass rush. 240 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: With opportunities in understanding that you're most of the time 241 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: going to be rushing Parsons, you're going to be rushing Gary. 242 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: I wonder what opportunities are out there for Green Bay 243 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: from a simulated pressure standpoint, from a safety blitz standpoint, 244 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: and trying to get you know, maybe a little out 245 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: of McKinny and Cooper in that way. 246 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: If you can. 247 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: I feel like there's great opportunities here for the Damn 248 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: to finally and the Packers to start getting some takeaways. 249 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: Those were two of the big catalysts for them last year. 250 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously McKinney was. He had eight interceptions, but 251 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: you kind of forget how effective he was as well 252 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: at the applying pressure. I think he had a fumble recovery, 253 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: might have had a forced fumble two last season. 254 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he had a strip sack against Minnesota. 255 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: It was in the home game, if I remember. 256 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just. 257 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: You need to You don't want guys playing out of 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: their system, but I think there's things you can do 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: to help them along the way. And in both of 260 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: those guys cases, I feel like there's more we can 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: see from them, and I'd be really encouraged to see 262 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: it in this game. Packer's got to shut down Marvin 263 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. You know, I mentioned some of the drop issues. 264 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: He's averaging fifteen yards of catch this season. Trey McBride. 265 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: Is that Joe Ferguson or excuse me, Jake Ferguson, you know, 266 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: sort of guy on just another level where it's not 267 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: just that he's the dump off option, it's that he's 268 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: the Tucker Craft. I mean, he can beat you every 269 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: way that a tight end can beat you. 270 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: Yep. So you got to stop them there. 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: Regardless of which quarterback starts, you gotta try to limit 272 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: this run game. It's the Packers number one ranked run 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: defense against an offense that has really struggled to run 274 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: the ball in the traditional sense this season. Green Bay 275 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: has all these different variables that I think they have 276 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: to do defensively to win. But at the end of 277 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: the day, there's two teams in the last seventeen years 278 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: that have been over a seven hundred winning percentage through 279 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: five games and had two or fewer inner takeaways. It's 280 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Green Bay this year, and it's the Giants in two 281 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. So, and the Giants had a great 282 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: year that year. They won twelve games. 283 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were the number one seed I believe 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: in the NFC that year they were. 285 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: They had to buy and then they lost the divisional round. Yeah, 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: so they're doing a lot of things well. But I 287 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: just as I wrote it inside Rimbacks, I feel like 288 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: that first takeaway could go a long way for the 289 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: Packers defense. Xavier McKinney, Drin Cooper, I feel like those 290 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: are the two big conduits to make that happen. I 291 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: appreciate your time, have a great evening. 292 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: No, that's I like what you said there about those 293 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: two guys, because because I think if the Packers have 294 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: two guys on the defense who can create eternal Yeah, 295 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: like those of those are the guys who come to 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: the to the forefront. Now, obviously a guy like Parsons 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: can do that too. But but with all of the 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: double teams and everything else that we've been seeing, you know, 299 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: teams are are certainly making it difficult and other guys 300 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: have to take advantage of those opportunities. 301 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: Can he the game be the refs calling holding? Maybe? 302 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, that's a whole other discussion that. Sorry, we 303 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: know we could spend a whole episode I think on that. 304 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: But sticking on the defensive side though, I want to 305 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: I want to say this because we've been asked in 306 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Insider Inbox. The questions have been flying in in my 307 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: midweek chat and everywhere else. What are the Packers going 308 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: to do? What is the counter to all of this 309 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: quick passing game, the three step drop and this and that? 310 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, because seen it, seen it from Prescott, 311 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: saw it from the Bengals with Flacco and all this, 312 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: and and teams are finding success, or at least for 313 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: half a game, right success doing it right. I don't 314 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: know what the x's and o's answer is to that, 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm trusting Jeff Hafley and his staff to come up 316 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: with what those answers are. If you're asking me what 317 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: I want to see aside from a takeaway, which I 318 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: think is a big deal, and one takeaway could go 319 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: a long way. As you've said, what I want to 320 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: see from the Packers defense in this game if they 321 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: are going to give up a long drive for a touchdown, 322 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: which may or may not happen, but if it happens, 323 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals at some point go seventy five yards 324 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: down the field and get a touchdown, I want to 325 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: see the defense respond on the next drive and not 326 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: let things snowball, not suddenly feel like that opposing offense 327 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: is in a rhythm. They can't be stopped like what's 328 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: going on out there. That's been the issue in the 329 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: second halves of these last two games is that you're 330 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: sitting there watching and going, where did the Packers defense go? 331 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Nobody's asking them to pitch shutouts. You're going to give 332 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: up points in this league. Things are going to happen, 333 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: whether it's an explosive play, a call by a ref, whatever. 334 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: But if you give up a long drive for a touchdown, 335 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: you go back to the sideline, the offense goes out 336 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: there like figure it out and get back out there 337 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: on the next drive and be the defense. Yep, that 338 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: you expect to be the response. The resiliency is what 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: I want to see from the Packers defense because we 340 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: haven't It feels like we haven't seen that really since 341 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the Cleveland game. 342 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 343 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: I was talking actually or going on Twitter with one 344 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: of the Packer bloggers during the game on Sunday, and 345 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: good dude, I'm not trying to put him on blast, 346 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: but he'd made a comment about, you know, Packers haven't 347 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: had to stop in the second half in their last 348 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: two games. That technically is inaccurate. The first possession of 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: the second half in Dallas, it actually got a very 350 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: pivotal correct quick out and that's what allowed them to 351 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: stay in that shootout then with the Cowboys. 352 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: But but. 353 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: What was behind the comment is actually true. Green Bay 354 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: has had a difficult time keeping teams out of the 355 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: end zone, keeping teams off the board, forcing them to 356 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: force them into a mistake in the second half. And 357 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: it was really interesting. Again, one of the guys I 358 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: was talking about this in the locker room on Wednesday 359 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: was Evan Williams and mentioning how you know, it's a 360 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: lot of things. It's discipline, it may be conditioning, It 361 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: maybe different things that you know you do wear down 362 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: throughout the course of the game. 363 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: But what's really odd. 364 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Is the juxtaposition to last year where Green Bay's defense 365 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: had a couple times where they were slow getting out 366 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: of the gate and teams caught them in the first quarter, 367 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: and then they buckled down the rest of the game. 368 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: It shows you the difficulty in the moving targetness of 369 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: the National Football League and that it's that damn where 370 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: you're trying to put as many plugs in the wall 371 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: as you can and you're not always going to get everything. 372 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: I think what green Bay should feel good about is, 373 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: let's be honest, Mike, the Packers don't win that game 374 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: against Cincinnati. They don't tie in Dallas if they don't 375 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: start the way that they did. The defense has given 376 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 2: the offense a position when the offense has struggled early on, 377 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: to to take a ten nothing lead into halftime and 378 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: to have some opportunities to be up thirteen to two 379 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: at one point in Dallas before some stuff went against them. 380 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: It's about finishing better in the second half. It's about 381 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: making those adjustments. And this is I wrote it again, 382 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: Insider inbox, check it out Packers dot Com. Support our families, 383 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: the Packers right now. If they can get this together, 384 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: this is the perfect game to do so, because next 385 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: week you got Aaron Rodgers, you got the Pittsburgh Steelers, 386 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: one of the most experienced defenses they're going to see 387 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: all season. Yeah, this is the week to get things 388 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: back on the tracks. You give Arizona that respect, but 389 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: they are two and fourteen. This is the week to 390 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: figure some stuff. 391 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Out offensive side of the ball, A key to victory. 392 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Something jump out to you. 393 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: What do you think you touched on it? 394 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: I think when you look at the opportunistic nature right 395 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: now of green Bay, they gotta have them situations. That's 396 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: where green Bay has been so good this season. Again, 397 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: I said it on Tuesday Show. You're not always going 398 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: to be able to hang your hat on that. There's 399 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: going to be times you're not going to convert on 400 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: third and long. But the guys that have stepped up 401 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: are not just Romeo Dobbs and Josh Jacobs and Tucker Craft. 402 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: It's been the Matthew Goldens it's been the guys that 403 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: you know are just new to this thing, but are 404 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: looking wise beyond their years. That excites me a lot. 405 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: I think there's big play potential in this game. The 406 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: Packers protect the football. I think this team, the Packers 407 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: are built to battle the Cardinals in any capacity that 408 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 2: they want to. But I feel like we've seen some 409 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: real strides here with how they finished the game in 410 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: Dallas and then how they responded against Cincy. I think 411 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: you're seeing the firepower there a little bit. 412 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. The gotta have it nature of the way this 413 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Packers offense has been able to come through in clutch situations, 414 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: drive after drive after drive in the last two games, 415 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: is you know, if there is an early identity to 416 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: the offense. I think that's what it is. I wrote 417 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: a little bit about that on Packers dot com if 418 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: you want to check out that story. What I want 419 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: to see as far as a key to victory is 420 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: I want to see this offense and it starts with 421 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Love, but it involves everybody. I want to see 422 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: this offense eliminate that one bad play that has happened 423 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: each of the last three weeks, the interception in Cleveland, 424 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: the stripsack in Dallas and the early interception against Cincinnati, 425 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: because as much as it was nice for the Packers 426 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: to be up ten to nothing at the half against 427 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals, they should have been up thirteen or sixteen 428 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: or seventeen to nothing or something. You know, the ten 429 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: to nothing was actually not good enough for how they 430 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: had moved the football, and the interception on that opening 431 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: drive was was that one bad play? Now, And I'm 432 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: not saying, you know, they're okay the Cardinals might you know, 433 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: get a sack, whether it's sweat or campbell or whatever. 434 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there won't be any negative plays 435 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: in the game. But something that really ranks as a 436 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: really bad play, that's what they got to get rid 437 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: of because it's happened each of the last three games, 438 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: and it's had a massive impact on how things have 439 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: unfolded the rest of the way from that point on, 440 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: if you know what I'm. 441 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: Saying, excellent point, yeah, for sure. And I think one 442 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: thing that can help them too is and we'll have 443 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: to see exactly again get through the week here, but 444 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: the Packers finally did see their preferred starting five out 445 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: there in some capacity. Obviously, Sean Ryan was integrated with 446 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: that right guard spot, although Jordan Morgan, the former first 447 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: round pick, played predominantly there throughout the game. But you 448 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: got Rashid Walker out there, you know, playing through you 449 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: know his was it a quad trying to remember exactly 450 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 2: what he had. Then you have Aaron Banks has had 451 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: the growing issues. And then in Zach Tom whose really 452 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: sounds like he's going through it right now with the 453 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: oblique and also the back did not practice on Wednesday. 454 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: But if he can keep toughing it out, if Aaron 455 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Banks can stretch some games together, I thought you started 456 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: to see the potential in this offensive line, not only 457 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: with how they protected Jordan Love, but also just how 458 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: they blocked for Josh Jacobs in the run game. Josh 459 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: had said afterwards he was feeling under the weather in 460 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: that game. But the fourteen yard touchdown run, he had said, 461 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: it probably was one of the best blocked plays he's 462 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: ever had. 463 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he even it was funny. 464 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: If I don't know if he caught the mic up, 465 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: he remarked to us in the locker room, he actually 466 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: also set it on. 467 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: His micro right, he said it on the micd up, 468 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: I could have fallen down and gotten up and still 469 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: scored on that because it was blocked, so well. 470 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just I mean, if you watch it, 471 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: it's a great play that the seal between Elton Jenkins 472 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: and then also Jordan Morgan had a tremendous block really 473 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: powered his guy on the right side allowed that alley 474 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: there for Josh Jacobs. The Packers hold a significant advantage 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: going into this game and their run offense, run defense 476 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: against what Arizona presents, that is going to be a 477 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: big thing as well. 478 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the Packers offensive line was It felt 479 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: like the play was a little bit up and down 480 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: as the game started against the Bengals, but then as 481 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: the game war on, I felt that unit, that starting 482 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: five really really settled in and the blocking on the 483 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: touchdown drive, the touchdown run by Jacobs in the second 484 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: half was a perfect example of that, because as the 485 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: game went on, it felt like the only way Cincinnati 486 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: was getting any pressure on Jordan Love was to blitz 487 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: and Hendrickson had gone out of the game, and the Packers' 488 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: offensive line was controlling the line of scrimmage. And yeah, 489 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: the injuries are still an issue and so we'll have 490 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: to see, but if that's the starting five. If that's 491 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: the group they want. Hopefully those guys will will continue 492 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: to settle in. I want to look around the league 493 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we got to pay some bills first, 494 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: so we will hear from our sponsors. Serious XM NFL 495 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 496 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, 497 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: three sixty five. 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But when 512 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: you're talking two forty year old quarterbacks going ahead to 513 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: head on Thursday night football, it's it's worth worth to mention. 514 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers against Joe Flacco, Pittsburgh is at Cincinnati. Pittsburgh 515 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: has clearly been the better team, but Joe Flacco has 516 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: definitely injected some life into that Cincinnati offense. And you 517 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: know how these short week division rivalry type games, I mean, 518 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: it always feels like anything can happen. 519 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean love excuse me, man, I'm so in 520 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Packers. Now Aaron Rodgers going back 521 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty two Packers. You know, he had 522 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: said after the game in this game interview, they were 523 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: asking him about the North and he's like, I'm used 524 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: to the North. He's like the games in the NFC 525 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: and the AFC that in the North Division they're all 526 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: kind of like yeah, I mean they are knocked down, 527 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: drag out, gritty battles, and certainly he's being introduced to 528 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: that now on a six game basis here with the Steelers. 529 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 2: I love the fact of this matchup. I think it's 530 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun to watch. I'm excited 531 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: to watch it. I actually think from the Packers' perspective 532 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: that Joe Flacco game was a really good barometer a 533 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: little bit of what it's going to be like playing 534 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: against Rogers. I mean, Aaron is really extending plays still, 535 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive for a guy that's two months shy 536 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: of forty two years old. He's still not afraid to 537 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: scramble and get out of the pocket and work off schedule. 538 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: You can tell he's another whole year removed from that 539 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Achilles injury. Yeah, whereas last year there wasn't as much 540 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: mobility there because he was still trying to come back 541 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: from that. 542 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: And almost the you're removed from having to be in 543 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, that too true. 544 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing when a little bit of vision can help, 545 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: you know. And also, you know, MVP quarterback out regardless 546 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: of the age. But yeah, it's gonna be a fun matchup, 547 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: and it's it's it's key. 548 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 549 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers will be on a mini bi before 550 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: playing Green Bay in a night game in Pittsburgh, So 551 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on. In for Cincinnati, that's 552 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: a tough turnaround, especially with Hendrickson's back issue. Yeah, I'm 553 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: trying to to make that that that turnaround. 554 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they don't, if they don't have Hendrickson, I'm 555 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: not sure how how they're gonna get a whole lot 556 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: of pressure on Aaron Rodgers, because I'm sure they would 557 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: like to, they would like to do that. Around the 558 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: NFC North, the Bears are hosting the Saints. I think 559 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears are probably gonna run their winning streak 560 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: to four games and be four and too. The Saints. 561 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Saints definitely a struggling squad, but but who knows there. 562 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is at Minnesota, and then on Monday Night Football, 563 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the Detroit Lions. Probably the 564 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: game of the week really as far as the full 565 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: slate in the NFL your thoughts on any of those 566 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: NFC North games. 567 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: The Lions will not have Bran Branch, who's one game 568 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: suspension was upheld by Dy Nelson. 569 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: Jordy Nelson the appeals the NFL. 570 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: One of the NFL appeals officers who happened to get 571 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Brian Branch's case. 572 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: This is how I know I'm getting old. Yeah, Jordy 573 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: Nelson is. 574 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: An appeals officer for the NFL, jointly elected in the NFLPA. Yeah, 575 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: so they're not going to have Brian Branch in this one. 576 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: This is not an opponent that you want to not 577 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: have Brian Branch on the field for Tampa can stretch 578 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: you in a number of different ways. 579 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: Well, and Detroit is dealing with other injuries in the secondary, 580 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: and so they have now the Branch suspension on top 581 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: of like Terry on Arnold and I'm the other cornerback's 582 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: name is escaping me. But they've had injuries at the 583 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: cornerback spot and now one of their starting safeties is 584 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: going to miss this game with the suspension. 585 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 586 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: So it's a big one Monday Night football, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 587 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: I wrote an insider Inbox. That's my third plug for 588 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: Inbox today. This is I think this is the team. 589 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: This is the matchup between the team to beat for 590 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers right now in the NFC. I 591 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: think this is going to go along way with kind 592 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: of that power rank and establishing that Philadelphia going to 593 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: Minnesota is a huge game on a number of levels. 594 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: One. 595 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it, but probably some 596 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: people were remarking on Twitter, probably the most testy Kevin 597 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: O'Connell's ever been, and it's really not that testy. But 598 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: when he was asked again about the quarterback situation on Wednesday, saying, 599 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: I am it's the same answer as when I gave 600 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: you guys on Monday, we'll see. I mean, it's funny. 601 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: They're almost a victim of their own success because they 602 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: bring these quarterbacks in. Carson Wentz pretty much off the 603 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: scrap heap, and you know he holds his own. But 604 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: now you got JJ McCarthy coming back from this ankle 605 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: deal and didn't look great when he was out there healthy. 606 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: What do you do? 607 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: And it's a difficult opponent on paper that they're gonna 608 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: have to go up against in the sales. 609 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: The Eagles coming trying to bounce back now from a 610 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: two game losing streak, but coming off of like the 611 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: mini bi Yeah, a little bit extra time for them 612 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: after losing that game to the Giants last Thursday. 613 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: But now they're without Zadarias Smith who retired tired. So 614 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: it's just. 615 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: Two ships crossing in the night there in that matchup, 616 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: So we'll be we'll be interesting to see how that 617 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 2: shuffles out. 618 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we shall see. Well, we get to we get 619 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: to wake up bright and early out in uh Arizona 620 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: at our hotel to another London game and Wembley Stadium. 621 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: The Rams are at the Jaguars. And the only reason 622 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned this one is because I'm looking at this 623 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: matchup going I don't know if I can figure out 624 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: where either of these two teams is headed. Yeah, you know, 625 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: and I know there's there's always there's always injuries, particularly 626 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: there have been injuries with the Rams and whatnot. But 627 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: but then you know, Jacksonville. I just I don't I 628 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: don't know what to I don't know what to make 629 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: of them. I don't know what to think of of 630 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: whether they're gonna be a serious contender in the AFC 631 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: or not. 632 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 3: I think that answer, honestly is up to Trevor Lawrence. 633 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I agree. 634 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: Like at some point we're gonna get to a spot 635 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: here we got to decide. I mean, Trevor Lawrence is 636 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: definitely an NFL starting quarterback. There's no question about that. 637 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: He's a good quarterback. But he was the number one 638 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: overall guy a few years ago, and he was seen 639 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: as a generational can't miss prospect. Right, He's been to 640 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs. He's also been part of some what four 641 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: win three win seasons. 642 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: A bunch of coaching changes. 643 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: He's on his third head coach, right. 644 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Everything else that's gone on in his career. 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is I think a really critical year 646 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: for him and Liam Cohen going in there had kind 647 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: of a rough start, but seems like things are sort 648 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: of trending in the right way. But yeah, the London 649 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: fans all those years they got served the Jacksonville Jaguars 650 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: during some lean years I think at a four and 651 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: two team. Now welcoming in a four and two RAMS squad. 652 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, and there's no Formula one on Sunday morning, 653 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: so I'll be able to watch it. 654 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh, there we go, all right. 655 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: Austin is at night. 656 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh I probably won't be able to I'll have to 657 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: wait until I get home. 658 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: To watch that because I'll be writing. 659 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll make sure to spoil it for you. 660 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate that. All right. 661 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: Well, with that, we'll call it a rap on this 662 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: edition of Packer Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 663 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and all of our coverage 664 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: of Sunday's game from Arizona. We'll have it all for 665 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: you on packers dot com for wesiamlike thank you for 666 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody. We will see you next time.