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Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Vinny,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: How are you hey, I'm doing okay, I'm doing okay.

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Speaker 2: How are yourself doing great?

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Speaker 3: And we're here to help with this situation. What's going

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Speaker 3: on with this woman, Zara? Why don't you explain? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How you mad about any dates you've been on? And

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Speaker 1: then what's happening right now?

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just confusing. I'm no spring Chicken. I've

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Speaker 4: been I've been dating. I'm still a young guy, but

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Speaker 4: I've been dating for a bit, so I get it.

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Speaker 4: I get the culture. I met her on the apps,

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Speaker 4: you know, as one does classic boy meets girl, and it.

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Speaker 3: Was becoming classic Yeah, honestly yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know, like I said, listen, I understand ghosting.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: But we went on three dates, okay, three full dates.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like after three dates.

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Speaker 4: You can't you can't just you can't just go completely

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Speaker 4: ghost on someone. You have to have an explanation. It's

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Speaker 4: just completely uncourteous.

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Speaker 3: I agree with this theory.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think after a date, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: two dates, I think you can kind of just part ways.

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Speaker 1: But I would say you know, when you get to

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Speaker 1: the third fourth date area is when maybe we have

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Speaker 1: a conversation, you know, maybe we say goodbye, maybe we

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Speaker 1: say hey, it's not for me, you know that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I'm saying. You get it, you get it.

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Speaker 4: So I just I don't know how she can just

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Speaker 4: completely ignore all my texts on my calls. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to hunt her too much, but I want answers.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm entitled to an explanation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one has disappeared. So let's see if

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Speaker 1: we can get Zara on the phone. You'll be on

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Speaker 1: the phone as well. We're gonna ask some questions and

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Speaker 1: maybe we can straighten this south. That's always the hope.

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Speaker 1: And if so, we'll pay for in this case, a

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Speaker 1: fourth date. So stay right there, Vinie will do it next.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what happens next Part two.

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Speaker 1: Avoiding by the phone after this song on the Fred Show, Hey, Vinnie, Hey,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's call Zara. You guys, I met on

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Speaker 1: one of the apps. You went on three dates. This

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Speaker 1: is not a one date situation. And then the ghostinger two.

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Speaker 1: This is three You went out three times, so you

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Speaker 1: would imagine, or you would think that everything was going well,

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Speaker 1: except now you can't get a hold of Zara and

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Speaker 1: you want to know why exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd think you'd think things are going well.

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Speaker 3: So all right, well let's call her now, see if

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Speaker 3: we can figure this out. Good luck. Hello, Hi is

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Speaker 3: his Zara? Yeah, it is Hi's our good morning. My

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Speaker 3: name is Fred.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,

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Speaker 1: and I do have to tell you that we are

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Speaker 1: on the radio right now, and I would need your

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Speaker 1: permission to continue with the call. Sod okay if we

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Speaker 1: chat for just a minute on the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you so much. We appreciate that we're

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Speaker 1: calling on behalf of a guy named Vinnie. I guess

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Speaker 1: you guys met on the apps and you went on

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Speaker 1: he says, three dates. So I assume you remember this

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Speaker 1: guy Vinnie.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what happened with him?

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Speaker 1: Because he called us and told us that he liked

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Speaker 1: I mean, three dates, that's usually a pretty good sign.

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Speaker 1: He says, though, that since the third date, you haven't

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Speaker 1: He feels like he's being ghosted. Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean.

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Speaker 5: The first two dates were great, and I really liked

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Speaker 5: him and I was excited and I thought, oh, maybe

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Speaker 5: this could be something real. And then on the third date,

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Speaker 5: we decided to go back to his place to you know,

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Speaker 5: like hook up, and I asked him if he had

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Speaker 2: I thought you had an IUD.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't what doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: And I said to him, like that doesn't matter, like

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Speaker 3: And I said, okay, this is gross.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean, it wouldn't matter if you were

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Speaker 1: I would say the primary concern is like, where have

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Speaker 1: we been before? Right? You know, It's like that whether

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Speaker 3: H And I guess also, then what obligation.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to him not to hook about other

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Speaker 5: Right, We're not we're we're in a couple. We're not

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Speaker 5: a couple. We've never been a couple. And it just

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Speaker 5: it was like such a red flag of what do you.

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Speaker 3: There's a layers of issues here.

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Speaker 1: We've got the assumption, we've got the defensiveness, we've got

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Speaker 1: then this sort of I guess, the control kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: and all without communication.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, let me creeps sorry, let me let me

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Speaker 6: ask Vinny about this, because I Vinnie is here and

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Speaker 6: I feel to mention that, and I sometimes get carried

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Speaker 6: away and forgett Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: Why, I mean, why why? There's a few issues here.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I was just called creepy and obnoxious.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not thrilled about that, you know on the radio, But.

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Speaker 3: In fairness, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't really get to like say that you're offended

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Speaker 1: asked us to do this, so like pursuit at your

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Speaker 1: own risk. Honestly, with all due respect, with.

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Speaker 4: All due respect, I never insulted her, and with all respect,

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Speaker 4: I am confused by all of your confusion. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I just, I just I don't really understand. I thought

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Speaker 4: it was a pretty innocuous question. Well, we talked already.

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Speaker 4: You know, the fact that she had an IUD came up.

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Speaker 4: You know, we came up in an earlier convery. We

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Speaker 4: were kind of prepping for this this special more intimates

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Speaker 2: Come up in conversation. I thought we already had that

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Speaker 2: conversation about protection. And I'm still I'm confused. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand what you're saying. If you're not hooking up with

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Speaker 2: just don't understand the issue.

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Speaker 4: I thought that we had already kind of covered those basism.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, did you tell this?

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Speaker 1: Did you tell this man about your you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of birth control method, and then did you then tell

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Speaker 3: Is that what took place?

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Speaker 7: No, I did tell him about my IUD, but I

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Speaker 2: Oh, but it's fine to just not use protection.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, that would that would put hopefully probably

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Speaker 1: prevent a pregnancy, but it wouldn't prevent other things from

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Speaker 3: That you know that you're not covered.

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Speaker 1: It is not like you know, it's not a you're

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Speaker 1: not wrapped in latex when you when you have one

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: You already have protection though, So like why would you

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Speaker 4: from pregnant?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Like what are we? Like are we doing high school?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Am I a pe teacher trying to teach you about sex?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Vinnie?

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Speaker 8: Do you do you know how this works? Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 8: I'm all about safe sex. But like it's like, you know,

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Speaker 8: you don't use two condoms, Like that's the best. You

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Speaker 8: don't use two things that's going to counteract.

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Speaker 3: What are you pregnancy?

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Speaker 1: I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding about what

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Speaker 1: what how this all works, which is all the more

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Speaker 8: But that's why that's why I asked if she was

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Speaker 8: looking up with other people, so that you know that

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Speaker 2: So then because you know, if she's not, then it's

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's an unfair question in itself, but

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Speaker 1: engage in that kind of activity is fair. But I

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Speaker 1: It's the assumptions and then the oh wait, what do

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Speaker 1: you mean when none of that's been outlined.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, since said I mean, just's I first

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Speaker 5: of all, it's like, we're not a couple.

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Speaker 1: We've never been a couple.

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Speaker 3: And to assume that.

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Speaker 7: I'm hooking up with number of people with other people

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Speaker 7: number one and then number two, basic safe sex, like no,

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Speaker 7: you need to wear protection as well, because I am

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Speaker 7: covered on the pregnancy part and the end. You know,

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Speaker 7: hopefully most of the time the iod work, and I

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Speaker 7: us it's important to have protection.

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Speaker 3: That part two. You have a look on you. You're puzzled,

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Speaker 6: I mean, just I'm shocked that he's out here been

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Has it ever burned?

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Speaker 1: When you to. Yeah, there does seem to be a

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Speaker 1: bit of a misunderstanding about what what all is going

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Speaker 1: on here? Uh it's not like an I U. D.

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Speaker 1: Is not like a like a laser that just kills

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Speaker 1: everything in its pack. But it's not awesome. But wouldn't

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Speaker 1: it be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, pat, Why do they call it protect?

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Speaker 2: They call it protection for a reason.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you can't be serious.

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Speaker 3: This is bad.

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Speaker 2: You got to give him the birds and.

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Speaker 1: A beast, right we do? We need to send this

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Speaker 1: man to uh some form of sex end class. I

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Speaker 1: guess all right, Zara, Look, I'll ask, but any interest

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Speaker 1: of appears that you just blew it, Vinnie. Honestly, things

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Speaker 1: were going fine, you were inches away.

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Speaker 2: I guess what. I just I'm still so confused.

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Speaker 3: I really, I can tell go to the clinic.

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Speaker 2: You whole tune up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got YouTube videos about this and you on

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Speaker 1: YouTube not that.

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Speaker 3: Don't put any other sites. Uh, I'm sorry, are you

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Speaker 3: you're done? I just we're not.

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Speaker 2: No no second date?

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Speaker 3: Nope, okay, all right, no fourth date? Nothing right anyway? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zara, thank you for your time. Good luck, Vinny,

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Speaker 1: best of luck to you as well.