1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: So quick emergency episode of the podcast, and this one, unfortunately, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: is not gonna be fun. Currently rocking this by myself. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring James in a little bit later because 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: he's currently in upstate New York on the mountain skiing. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: We didn't think anything was gonna happen, and if we did, 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: we thought it was gonna be like festive, exciting, something 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: that would feel good. This is not that. Code I 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Senga shut down. Shoulder injury. Posterior capsule is bothering him. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: They're currently shutting him down. He's gonna start the year 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: on the il. This is a big problem for the Mets. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: This is not good. Code I Senga clearly the best 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: picture on this rotation right now, clearly the best picture 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: of the entire staff. He was the ace, he was 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: the best picture on the team last year. He's one 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: of the best pictures in baseball. This guy has been 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: so incredibly important to this team, the team's success. That 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: was gonna happen this year. I mean, you heard us 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: talk on the last episode. We were like, hey, really, 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: I mean, like code is Sanga obviously needs to be 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: an ace. He needs to be one of the best 21 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball again in order for this team to 22 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: be good. And right now, it's February, what February twenty second, 23 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: and we were talking about whether or not Code I 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Senga will be pitching in May. They will be pitching 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: in June. And it sucks. It's terrible, terrible news, like 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: nothing we wanted to hear. I was sleeping and James 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: woke me up by like just blowing up my phones 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: as you need to wake up. Code I sang is dead. 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Code I sank is dead. And I was like, oh 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: my god, what injury just happened? To be fair, I 31 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: was at least initial reaction. I was worried about the elbow. 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: I was worried about the elbow. When you hear like 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: dead arm, when you hear fatigue, I get worried about 34 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: the elbow. You don't want Tommy John. It's not like 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: a killer like it used to be. Obviously, like thoracic 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: outlet is kind of the new like killer. In terms 37 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: of pitchers, they just don't come back the same posterior capsule. Now, 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: looking through Twitter, looking through doctors online, I gotta say 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: I haven't been hearing a lot of great things about 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: what could be happening with CODEI seems like this could 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: be an injury that's gonna cost him some time. And 42 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: for the Mets, who don't really have the luxury of 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: missing much time or having their one of their best 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: players on the team miss time, this is concerning. It 45 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: leads the question like where do we go from here? 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: What do we do next? Because when you look at 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the rotation and you look at what it's built out 48 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: to be right now, Tyler McGill is gonna slot into 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: that rotation now as the number five. You've got King Tana, 50 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: You've got Louis Severino, You've got Adriane Hauser, you've got 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Tyler McGill, and you've got Sean Manyah. I mean I 52 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: like these pictures as depth, guys. I like these dudes 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: is three, four, fives, mostly fives. To be honest, Now 54 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: that this is our full rotation, it does get a 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: little bit trickier. And you guys are smart, You're Mets fans. 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: You're not stupid. You've been listening to the podcast, You've 57 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: been listening to everybody, everybody talking about the team. We 58 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: know that pitching was gonna be the problem this year, 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: but at least we had Code I. Now we don't 60 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: have Code I Sanga for what seems like an unspecified timetable, 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: which is kind of scary but also kind of okay, Like, 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: at least he's not out for the year right now. 63 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: At least he's not out until June guaranteed. Right now, 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: they are taking it very so, very cautious, and on 65 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: Codey's part, he has been pretty optimistic. He just said, 66 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: like I've been throwing, it's just discomfort. I don't feel 67 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: particularly comfortable right now with the way that I'm throwing. 68 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: Nothing seems to be in excruciating pain. Nothing seems like 69 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: it's thor nothing seems like there's any major structural damage 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: that we know of yet. But similarly to how the 71 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: Mets have kind of operated this offseason, everything's kind of 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: being kept under wraps. There's not a lot of talk, 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of reports, there's not a lot 74 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: of news besides what we're physically hearing from David Stearns 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and Code I Sanga and Carlos Mendoza and everybody involved. 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be keeping an eye out over the 77 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: next few days, a few weeks, hopefully not a few months. 78 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: But it seems like we're probably gonna at least miss 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: a month of Code I Sanga, which sucks. Sucks. I mean, 80 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: it's just so good, so good, and so crucially important 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: to this team's success. But next man up, next man up, 82 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: who is gonna step up for this team and be 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: that guy who can fill it. We're not gonna be 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: able to get another ace right now. Like I think, 85 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you guys need to stop. And I hate to be 86 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: this because it's so boring, and this is like when 87 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: we were working with the team, and I totally understand 88 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: why you'd be frustrated from these takes. But they're not 89 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna go out and sign Blake Snell. They're not gonna 90 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: go out and sign Jordan Montgomery. And I hate, absolutely 91 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: hate to give Andy Martine credit. You guys know, not 92 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the biggest fan of his, but he put out some 93 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: good stuff earlier today about signing Bellinger Man, about signing 94 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery, and he summed it up 95 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: really well. The team would pay one hundred and ten 96 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: percent luxury tax on every dollar spent on Blake Snell, 97 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Montgomery, anybody else. So for guys like Jordan Montgomery, 98 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: who's looking for twenty to twenty five million dollars a year. 99 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: If it's a one year deal, probably the AAV goes 100 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: up a little bit. Same thing with Blake Snell, who's 101 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: probably looking in that thirty million dollar range. That thirty 102 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: million dollar contract now becomes sixty five to seventy million. 103 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: That twenty twenty five million dollar contract to Jordan Montgomery 104 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: becomes fifty sixty million dollars. And there's no world where 105 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: either of these guys are worth it. And I hate, 106 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: I hate saying this because all I've ever wanted is 107 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: a team to spend money like crazy. But there are 108 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: bigger things to worry about right now. Is this team 109 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: a World Series contender right now? If we are freaking 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: out about losing Code I Sanga, Probably not? Probably not. 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Does Blake Snell or Jordan Montgomery truly make us that 112 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: much better? Probably not. It will definitely to carry us over, 113 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: But what is the damage that this could do to 114 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: the team financially long term? And I think that's something 115 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: that maybe we got a little bit spoiled with the 116 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: last couple of years. We want Max Schurz or we 117 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: got them, We got want Justin Verlander. We got them. 118 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: We paid them forty three million dollars each for forty 119 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: year old pitchers. How did that turn out? Snell and 120 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Montgomery aren't those guys. But in the same regard, we 121 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: have to be smart about the financials. We can't just 122 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: spend willy nilly, because that's how you get in a 123 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: hole and you turn into the Los Angeles Angels who 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: haven't made the playoffs. Think the longest playoff drought I 125 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: think in all of baseball right now. So it's not 126 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: gonna be Blake Snell, it's not gonna be Jordan Montgomery. 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: Martino reported that basically Senga missing time doesn't change anything either. 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: The Mets weren't particularly pushing for these guys with Senga, 129 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: They're not gonna be pushing without them. And I can't 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: imagine that either of them are gonna take such a 131 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: significant pay cut for a one year deal that it 132 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: would make it worth it. From the Mets side, again, 133 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay these guys actually twenty five to 134 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars or twenty to thirty million dollars, Yeah, 135 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: gotta double it and give it to the next person. 136 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: The same thing, like too expensive, too expensive, So you 137 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: can throw that out the window. Mets fans. I'm sorry 138 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: to be giving you that news, and I hate that 139 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: I have to give it to you from Andy Martino, 140 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: my enemy. But at the end of the day, he's right, 141 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, this is good reporting. 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: This is how you do it. It's not gonna happen. 143 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: They didn't see a fit with Senga on the team. 144 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna see the fit without him. 145 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: It's just overspending to fix, like to just put a 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: bandage on a leaky wound, like that's to put a 147 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: bandage on a gunshot. Because right now, losing Code I Senga, 148 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: it's like getting shot. It's like getting shot. So I 149 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: think we're gonna get James up in the mountains real quick. 150 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: See what he's thinking, James, I think I got you. 151 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: What's going on? How's the mountain trip? And what are 152 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: you thinking about the code Ice Senga news that we 153 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: just heard. Try to do some Twitter doc injury research. 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Talk to Nick Pollock picture List, former collegiate pitcher. The 155 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: posterious strain is rare, much more rare in the anterior strain. 156 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: That's what's keeping Grendon Wood your fout for the year, 157 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: that's keeping Clint Kurscher out for the year, And some 158 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: twitther doctor nonsense of saying that posterior strain could be 159 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a precursor to a rotator cuff, similar to how the 160 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: calf strain is a is. 161 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: A oh my god, almost fell him? Were in ski 162 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: boots right now? I got the ski boots on, much 163 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: like how the calf strains a precursor possibly to a 164 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: torn achilles And also a strain like a like a 165 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: like a sprain in his shoulder and elbow or something 166 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: could mean either a stretch or a slight tear, So 167 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: no matter what, like, it just sounds worse that Cola 168 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: is saying has a slight tear of something in the shoulders. Terrible. 169 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: It seems like it's gonna take a while to heel. Also, 170 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: Nick said that it mostly could be trap related if 171 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: it's posterior, and so those are extra painful and they 172 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: take a long time to heal. But then Kodai gave 173 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: a statement saying that he still feels good when he pitches, 174 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: but it's just discomfort. So I don't know a lot 175 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: of things going in every direction. It's definitely not that fun. 176 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: I just it feels to me like it's gonna be 177 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: probably June. People are looking at me. I look like 178 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: an idiot right now, like in Maniac. Probably June until 179 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: he pitches, which sucks because he was the one this rotation. 180 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: He's the guy we definitely really needed if we want 181 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: this rotation to be solid and have any kind of ceiling. 182 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 2: Now looks like probably Jose Cantana's your opening day starther 183 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: if he gets through spring training healthy, which is crazy 184 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: after two straight years where Tyler McGill was the opening 185 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 2: day starther, after we lost Justin Vera and Jacob Grand 186 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: back to back in spring trainings. So it sucks. There's 187 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: three years in a row that we're not gonna have 188 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: our opening day stared and opening day. 189 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if he's out till June, that's terrifying. 190 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: It's terrifying, and I'm not particularly thrilled about that possibility. 191 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you talked to Nick Pollock and he 192 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: gave us maybe a little bit of a more saying 193 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: take than some of the Twitter doctors. Get follow Nick 194 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: if you guys haven't picture list. He's a legend over there. 195 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. They definitely do. 196 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess you don't need to find someone to fill 197 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: in because through the free agent market, surely not anybody 198 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: to get. I mean, there's one guy, and I'm sure 199 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: a lot of Mets fans would feel very polarized about 200 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: the guy. Trevor Bauer's still out there. You'd be free. 201 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to get him. I'm not saying not 202 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: to get him. If you just want a cheap option 203 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: that could be productive on the major league team, that 204 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: is one of the ways you could look. Is that 205 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna happen? I don't think so. I think it'd be 206 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: a pr nightmare for the Mets. I think they're very averse, 207 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: or I think they're risk a verse. I don't think 208 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: they want to take on the risk of bringing in 209 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: a Trevor Bauer. If they do, he's gonna be free, 210 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: so that double luxury tax penalty really won't matter. So 211 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: are there guys inside the organization that you think he 212 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: could fill in as the next guy's up? Who do 213 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: you think it would be? James? 214 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: All the talk right now in the world is about 215 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: Christian Scott mostly Mike Vassel. Just to remind everybody, neither 216 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: of them are on the forty man roster, so we're 217 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: gonna be turning through forty man roster guys Max Kranick, 218 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: of course, lukez McGill, Budo, we still have Seanrie Foley, 219 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: we still have Grant Hartwig, we still have Phil Bickford. 220 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: There's a good chance all of these guys get major 221 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: league innings, probably before Christian Scott or Mike Vassel, with 222 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: the only caveat to that being if one of them 223 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: just go berserk in the spring, which I think Scott 224 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: could even though he doesn't have any professional innings under 225 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: his belt. I don't want to make this comparison. Neither 226 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: did Spencer Streither when he went crazy through the Brave system. 227 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: He just kind of forced the issue at some point, 228 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: even though he first came up in relief but then 229 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: wind up being the start of the next year. This 230 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: code that's saying injury is something that could definitely put 231 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: him on the sixty day IL because it feels like 232 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: like there's gonna be like three weeks. Resn't to do anything 233 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: at all. He has to let that shoulder chill and 234 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: then maybe you start throwing once March begin Once March 235 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: is like going. But even if that's not the case, 236 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: it feels like he's gonna start throwing maybe when April begins, 237 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: so then he has to do a whole spring training. 238 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: It's probably six weeks of ramping up, so you're not 239 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: really throwing full until the end of April, beginning of May. 240 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: You're not on the mounds. Best case scenario till the 241 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: middle of May early June is what it sounds like 242 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: to me. It doesn't seem like it based on what 243 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: they're saying, but based on the words they're saying, and 244 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: based on no like learning about this injury just now. 245 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: Maybe but Sega's statement sending more optimistic now, but just 246 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: there's a chance that when we have to start actually 247 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: picking the rotation for the season, that Sanga actually does 248 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: need a sixty day il. That opens a sixty forty 249 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: man roster spot. That's the opening for either Vassal or 250 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: Christian Scott. Otherwise, I'm sure it's probably still late May 251 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: June until we see those guys. Anyway, maybe Sanga, but 252 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: that's kind of what to look out for now. The 253 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: way the forty man roster gets manipulated. Maybe they go 254 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: after Michael Lorenzen, Maybe they go after Jordan Montgomery for 255 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: short deal, but probably not because I'm sure Scott Boris 256 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: is just foaming at the mouth that this just happened 257 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: to the Mets. But it seems like it's gonna be 258 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: a lot more Max Chranic and Joey Lukezi and Jose 259 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Bulo rather than Christian Scott and Mike Vassel early. But 260 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: who I might be an idiot who knows. 261 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as much as I'd love to see C. 262 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Scott and Mike Vassel come in out of spring training 263 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: looking great, stepping up going into that rotation being those guys, 264 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: you make a good point, like we still have Budo 265 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Peterson at some point's gonna come back from injury hopefully 266 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: you know Sengle will be healthy by then, so we 267 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: I guess we don't really even need to talk about Peterson. 268 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: But you've got Buddho, You've got Lukes, who, let's not 269 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: forget Lukez looked really good last year, Like in the 270 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: opportunities that Lukazy got, he was really solid. So I'm 271 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: not happy that we have to throw in Joey Lukesey 272 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: into this, you know, makeshift rotation now because of a 273 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: Code I SEG injury. But there definitely have been worse 274 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: options in Mets years past. Not the worst thing that 275 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: could possibly happen. And you mentioned like Max Kranick and 276 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: some of the guys that we got off the waiver wire, 277 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: off the scrap heap that could be filling in some 278 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: of the younger guys, some of the journeymen that have 279 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: been on this roster. It's not gonna be sexy. It's 280 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be great. James, again, thank you for calling 281 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: in from the mountain. Do appreciate you chiming in here 282 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: while your boy is rocking a solo podcast, which feels 283 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: a little bit weird, but I do appreciate you coming 284 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: in and giving me a little something. Enjoy the skiing. 285 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, this is 286 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: a shit sandwich. We got dealt the shit sandwich. It 287 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: was going to be a really, really difficult year for 288 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: the Mets to begin with, it just got a lot harder. 289 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: If Code I Sangle only misses a month, I don't 290 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: think the season is completely lost. I don't think it's over, 291 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: but if we're looking at Code I not pitching until 292 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: June July. If we don't get him until the summer starts, 293 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: that's when it starts to become dangerous with this team. 294 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: That's when you start to get worried about what's going 295 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: on and what the future of this roster could look like. 296 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: Things could be changing, but we don't know yet, so 297 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna freak out. And until we know, there's 298 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: really no reason to keep talking about it. So this 299 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: is an emergency episode of the Mets Up podcast. Just 300 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: wanted to drop one out there for you guys. Code 301 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I sang out for the foreseeable future. I don't foreseeable future. 302 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Sounds dramatic. Is out? He's out right now. He's been 303 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: shut down. No throwing, no nothing until he starts to 304 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: feel better. And uh yeah, we're just gonna have to 305 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: wait and see. Being a Mets fan, the agony never ends. 306 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: It's never easy for us. 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