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This of course, coming amidst 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: the seizure of ballots down in Fulton County and Trump 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: making all sorts of wild comments, and then here you go, 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: there is Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, you know, in 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: this just undeniably racist depiction. This was apparently part that 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: piece right at the end was part of some lion 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: King video that included you know, this depiction here. So 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: there was actually some reaction from Republicans on this. So 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: for whom it was, you know, even for them, a 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: bridge too far. Initially, the White House puts out a 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: defense of this tweet, let's put this up on the screen, 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: and tries to shift blame. 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: So they say the White House is to leave the 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: apes video. 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Any person familiar tells me President Trump did not see 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: the video legitimately didn't. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: A staffer posted it. 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, only a small handful of staffers 42 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: have access to his truth social accounts. So that was 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: an initial line form the White House, like, oh, Trump 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: didn't it wasn't him, it. 45 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Was a staffer. They didn't see that part. At the end. 46 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Trump had no idea about this video, et cetera. And 47 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: the pressure let's put the C three up on the screen. 48 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: The pressure came from. There were maybe like roughly ten 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: Republicans in the Senate, in the House who expressed some 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: sort of upset about this, perhaps the most notably Senator 51 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Tim Scott said praying it was fake because it's the 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: most racist thing I've seen out of this White House. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: The President should remove it. And then we have this 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: New York Times tear sheet that gets into some more 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: of the criticism here. You know, you had Thomas Massey 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: actually yesterday when he was doing the Sunday Show rounds, 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: also saying it needed to be deleted, that they needed 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: to apologize to the Obamas over this, et cetera New 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: York Times analysis saying here that you know, sometimes even 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: this president can cross the line. Let's put the next 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: one up on the screen. We've got this defense from 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: pastor Mark Burns, who was closely affiliated with President Trump, 63 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: who is himself black. So he said, I just spoke 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: directly with President Trump regarding the offensive Obama ape video 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: that circulated online. The President assured me clearly and nonequivocally, 66 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: he did not post it. Okay, So that's the line 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: still coming out here. He understands the painful and racist 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: history in America of depicting African Americans as apes, attactic 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: long used by white supremacists to demean black intelligence and humanity. 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: He knows this is wrong, offensive, and unacceptable. Present made 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: it clear to me this post was made by a 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: staffer and not by him. My recommendation the President was 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: direct and firm. The staffer should be fired immediately. The 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: President should publicly condemn this action. This kind of insensitive 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: and racist communication is not reflect the heart, values or 76 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: leadership of the President of the United States, nor does 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: it represent the America we are striving to build. So 78 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: you can see they're trying to craft this narrative about Oh, 79 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: Trump didn't have anything to do. Is this staffer and 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: it was just at the end and he had no 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: idea blah blah blah, And who jumps in to blow 82 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: up that entire narrative coming from the White House but 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Trump himself. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a list of. 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: That the number of Republicans they're calling on you to 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: apologize for that post. 87 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Is that something you're. 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: Going to do. 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't make a mistake. I mean, if I'd 90 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: look at a lot of thousands of things, and I 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: looked at the beginning of it, it was fine, and 92 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: they had that one post, and I guess it was 93 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 5: a takeoff by the way a lot of people were covered. 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: If you look at where it came from, a lot 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: of I guess it was a takeoff of the Lion King, 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: and certainly it was a very strong post in terms 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 5: of voter fraud. Nobody knew that that was in the end. 98 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 5: If they would have looked, they would have seen it, 99 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: and probably they would have had the sense to take 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: it down. But that was a takeoff of the Lion King, 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: and a lot of people were covered, one different in 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 5: different positions. So when I spoke to Tim Scott, he 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: was great. Tim is a great guy. He understood that 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: one hundred percent. 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: So not only is I didn't make a mistake. 106 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: I looked at the beginning of it, So this idea 107 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 2: was a stab or no, he's saying, No, I looked 108 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: at it. I watched it. I loved the election fraud part. 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: That was great, he says. Then he looked at the 110 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: end and it's just a take off on the Lion King. 111 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: You know, maybe if we had looked a little closely, 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: he might not oppose it. But it was just a 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Lake off on the Lion King. I made no mistake here, 114 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: there's no problem, and Tim Scott is cool with it. 115 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: Here's the words of Trump himself. October twenty second, twenty fifteen. 116 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: The young intern who accidentally did a retweet apologizes that's 117 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: so it's all there. I mean, the only defense is 118 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: that he was actually well posting a what is it 119 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the crazy election fraud video right, which happened to have 120 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: this AutoPlay at the end. I do think that this 121 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: is a good view into the current government and actually 122 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: why people have such difficulty trusting literally anything they say 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: because the TikTok. One thing we forgot is that Caroline 124 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Levitt actually did defend the original video, because clearly she 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: had not gotten to the point where they were going 126 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: to disavow it. Caroline Levitt was like, it was a 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: satirical Lion King thing. You guys have no sense of humor. 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: And then immediately afterwards, Tim Scott, Roger Wicker and all 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: these other people posts. They're like, oh, this is terrible. 130 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: Tim Scott calls a president, and then the leaks came 131 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: out and they're like, well, unequivocally, he didn't see it right, 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: And so they're like he didn't see it. The staffer 133 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: who did it apologize. From what I know, and I 134 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: actually asked, there are only three people who have actual 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: nighttime access to the Truth Social It is Trump, Dan Scavino, 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: and then his aid I think her name is Natalie Johnson. 137 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Those are the only three people who have any access 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: to the truth Social account also specifically at night. Is 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: it more likely that those two aides Scavino, who I 140 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: think just got married, and then his younger aid is 141 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: the one that's scrolling on truth Social and reposting hundreds 142 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: of things which we happened to see from Trump every 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: single night. Yeah, what's the more likely story than all 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: of this? I do think it's interesting that he deleted it. Actually, 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: if you had asked me at the very beginning, I'd 146 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: be like, no, they're gonna defend this thing to the beginning. 147 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: I have no idea that the New York Times piece 148 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: it kind of you know, showed you the whole like 149 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: immune from politics. One thing that I think is beginning 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: to sink in for the White House is that batshit 151 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: behavior like this, because again, the only defense is guys 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: who is just posting an election front video, which I 153 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: do believe. By the way, considering what happened this Epstein 154 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: affordability now Iran, they clearly are in a very defensive posture. 155 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: I think they know things are bad. Oh and Ice, 156 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I forgot eyes obviously, that was a number of what 157 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: preceded the Epstein story. Two weeks of Ice shootings and 158 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: stories literally across the country where Trump bucked sent Tom 159 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Homan basically surrendered in Minneapolis. And now you've got this 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: now currently then you had the Epstein situation. Now you've 161 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: got a bad news cycle again that just continues and 162 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to go away. I have not seen the 163 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: White House this weekend quite some time. Like this is 164 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: the weakest I have ever seen the White House. I 165 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: would never And by the way, that's why I think 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Trump refused to apologize, because his instinct is always never 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: to give in. But oh and then blinking on the 168 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Iran talks. Remember, I mean there's a lot of stuff 169 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: here where I haven't seen them this on the back 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: foot like quite a long time. 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean also you have the dynamic with 172 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: Republicans where now we're heading into the midterms. Yes, right, 173 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: there was another actually there was just another election that 174 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: was really bad for them to really you know, massive 175 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: shifts towards Democrats. There was one down in Louisiana as well, 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: where the Republicans actually thought they had in this House, 177 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: like state House seat down in Louisiana. 178 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: It's a Trump district. 179 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Louisiana has some of these places that used to vote 180 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: for Democrats locally and then they vote for Republicans nationally. 181 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: You know, that realignment has obviously completely had they thought 182 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: that they would be able to pick up this seat, 183 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: and no, it was a Democratic absolutely blowout. 184 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: So they're looking at these things. 185 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: They're looking at what happened in Texas, They're looking at 186 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: the polls. Number of Republicans who are in even somewhat 187 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: vulnerable seats are going like, I don't know about all this, 188 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: and also reckoning with like Trump is not going to 189 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: be around forever. So you have that going on in 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: the background here too. 191 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 192 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: There was something like ten to twelve Republicans who said 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: something which on the one hand, is pathetic. It's pathetic, 194 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: right given the content of the entire video from the 195 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: election fraud nonsense, and then of course the like brazen 196 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: racist part of the video. On the other hand, how 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: many things have we seen, especially with Trump's like post 198 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 2: or uncouth comments or whatever, where any number of Republicans 199 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: comes out and says so, you know, that coupled with 200 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: the fact that they at least felt the need to 201 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: do some kind of damage control on it and ultimately 202 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: delete it, is different than what we've seen from this 203 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: from this Trump two point zero in particular. 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I think this is the story because 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, when's the last time Donald Trump apologized 206 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: or deleted anything? And I think they again, also the 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Republicans who spoke Tim Scott, okay, whatever, but let's think 208 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: about something, Roger Wicker. I mean, these are people you 209 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: don't hear of, right, but who are actually very powerful 210 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: in the US Senate. When those people start to throw fits, 211 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't just Tim Scott, Susan Collins and Lisa Mcowson 212 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: like the typical crew. It was people who are powerful, 213 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: people will have a decent hold in the United States Senate. 214 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that the White 215 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: House is now grappling with is social media. So if 216 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: you were to take a poll right now for the 217 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: same social media vibe kind of stuff that helped Donald 218 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Trump win the election in twenty twenty four, let's check 219 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: back in. I mean, I'm asking everybody who watches this show, 220 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: check your friends' Instagram stories. What's it run in ninety ten? 221 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: Whenever comes to liberal versus conservative content, or let's call 222 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: this anti Trump versus pro Trump content. I mean, the 223 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: pro Trump stuff seems dead on arrival to me, especially 224 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: like a cultural vibe base level. This is exactly the 225 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: type of thing which I mean, it was already going 226 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: pretty viral because I mean, the screen grab is like insane, right, 227 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: like of the literal Obama's portrayed as apes. That is 228 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: literally like a post that could just rock it all 229 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: around the world. And I do think that this is 230 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: significant enough of a story in the context of all 231 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: of the back downs that we've seen from Donald Trump 232 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: so far. And I do think part of the problem 233 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: is that there's an entire ecosystem on Twitter. Of course, 234 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: because what happened immediately after the post came out, everybody 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: defended it. Everybody was like zoom right, because they assumed 236 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: that they that the. 237 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: Right would do. 238 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: And then it's funny because the White House is the 239 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: one which is backing way. But remember, everything works in incentives, 240 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and the incentive structure right now is to never apologize. 241 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: We'll always defend. And it's you know, when you have 242 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: to deal with national politics and not a bunch of 243 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: people on Twitter who are like posting all the time, 244 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: you're actually in a different universe. I really, I really 245 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: think the right has the same problem the left had 246 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: with Twitter for years. I absolutely one believed that. 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: And I saw something recently about like the you know, 248 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: the content liberal versus conservative on a variety of social 249 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: media platforms, and Twitter, of the mainstream ones, not like 250 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: true social but like the mainstream social media platforms, was 251 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: the one that had the most conservative content, and so, 252 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: you know, and that's a place where Soccer and I 253 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in terms of. 254 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: Preferred news show, et cetera. 255 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: And so you know, even I think we get like 256 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: a distorted view of things because it is much more 257 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: skewed right than other platforms. And even Twitter is not 258 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: nearly as conservative in all of the posting as it 259 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: was at the peak of you know, of pro Trump sentiment. 260 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: One more and this will help us transition to the 261 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: super Bowl block. You know, there's this whole thing a 262 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: free out about the Bad Bunny halftime show blah blah blah, 263 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: and Trump posted about it. We'll get to that in 264 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: a moment, but I thought this was interesting. So Jake 265 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: Paul posts this anti Bad Bunny tweet. He says, purposely 266 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: turning off the halftime show. Let's rally together and show 267 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: big corporations they can't just do whatever they want without consequences, 268 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: which equals viewership for them. 269 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: You are their benefit. Realize you have power. 270 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Turn off this halftime A fake American citizen performing who 271 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: publicly hates America, I cannot support that. And then so 272 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: I saw that last night, and this morning I wake 273 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: up to Jake Paul doing all sorts of like like 274 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: tweeting about. 275 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: Well, you didn't understand what I'm met about fake America, 276 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Like I actually love Puerto Rico blah blah. 277 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: And I know he moved there for tax advantages, by 278 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: the way, which is like, you know, crazy, But I 279 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: saw his own brother come out and be like, ye, 280 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: I love my brother, but. 281 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: I disagree with him. 282 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: I think Puerto Rico's great, and I think it's awesome 283 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: that they were able to celebrate their heritage. 284 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: So first of all, they don't give a shit about 285 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, So that's kind of course. Yeah, the only 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: reason they moved there is could get free crypto capital 287 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: ka it's google it if you don't know what I'm talking. 288 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: Exactly, But I mean the point was to your point 289 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: about like the vibe shift. 290 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, do you think that this Jake. 291 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: Paul tweets in the past that he would have felt 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: the need to like in multiple tweets afterally he didn't 293 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: understand when I met you know, when I really meant 294 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: it this way, phrased it poorly, blah blah blah, and 295 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: his brother coming out and being like, I don't I 296 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: don't agree with that at all. 297 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: Very different cultural. 298 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it now. I think there will be 299 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: a tremendous backlash year. The UFC fight at the White 300 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: House interests massive. They were right in high they had 301 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: a little paramount deal Dana White obviously you know him, 302 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: and Trumper all Freddy's. I think that the U I 303 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: think it will massively backfar. This is just me I'm 304 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: calling it now. Though I can just I can sense 305 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: and I can smell where things are going. I don't 306 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: think it's going to work out well for them. Okay, 307 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: let's get to Calshi. So yesterday was Super Bowl Sunday, 308 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: and naturally, in the state of the United States that 309 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: we are in today, some billion or so dollars was 310 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: bet by Americans. Tens of millions decided to place their wagers, 311 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: some of them on prediction market sketually operating potentially illegally. 312 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: More Perfect Union did a good deep dive into it. 313 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 314 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: Traders on Calshi and polymarket are betting nearly one billion 315 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: dollars on this upcoming Super Bowl. They're betting on who 316 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: will win, will in video run an advertisement, what song 317 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: bad Money will open with, will someone say the phrase 318 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: now here's a guy, Will Timothy Shalomy be there? And 319 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: they're even betting on the coin toss. Oh sorry, not betting. 320 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: I mean they're buying event contracts, they're trading assets. It's 321 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: investing really definitely not gambling. They want you to believe 322 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: that you can make money on these investments. Never mind 323 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: the fact that seventy percent of people lose money and 324 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: most of the profit is taken in by an insanely 325 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: small number of traders zero point zero four percent. Second, 326 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,359 Speaker 4: gambling in the United States is more strictly regulated than investing. 327 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: If this is gambling, they have to deal with state 328 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: gambling commissions, they have to follow those laws and build 329 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: in protections. Since this is apparently investing, they're instead regulated 330 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: at the federal level, which means fewer rules in general, 331 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: bypassing state laws, just paying normal corporate income taxes and 332 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: putting gambling in front of Americans everywhere. 333 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know that that strategy has been tremendously successful. 334 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: It turns out that the Calshi super Bowl market alone 335 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: was some nine hundred million dollars as of yesterday, So 336 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: that was just on Calshi, not even including polymarket. I'm 337 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: still waiting on data from the American Gaming Association on 338 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: the total amount spent on the super Bowl. It's a 339 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: bit sketchy. Last year they said sixteen billion was wagered. 340 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: This year they're predicting one billion. That doesn't seem to 341 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: line up, so it might. I don't know which number 342 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: is yet going to be correct. So I just want 343 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: to lead with if Calshi alone is a billion, you 344 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: can be will you be willing to bet that DraftKings fan, duel, polymarket, 345 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: all of that is going to be much much more 346 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: than that. But this gets to this entire idea of 347 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: regulation and rot in our society. So if you happen 348 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: to watch the Super Bowl, yes, I know that a 349 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of the discourse was around around bed Bunny and 350 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: all of that, But the one that's really stuck out 351 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: to me, mac if we have this tweet is from 352 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Solander, who says, my takeaway from the Super Bowl 353 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: is that the entire American economy is being propped up 354 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: by AI, weight loss drugs, cryptocurrency and gambling. That's basically it. 355 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: If you watch oh sorry, lays Chips, by the way, 356 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Lays Chips and then Duncan all right, I mean, out 357 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: of all of that Duncan lily subjectionable. I mean, just 358 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: take a look at what we are. It's like obesity, gambling, 359 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: AI data centers. And I texted this to a friend 360 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: and he goes, well, not technic, correct. Those are just 361 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: the industries that make enough money to buy Super Bowl ads. 362 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: The rest of the economy is healthcare, which exists entirely 363 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: because of regulatory capture and the fact that we don't 364 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: remove subsidies. So actually, no, the healthcare industry is doing 365 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: really well. They don't need to advertise for you because 366 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: they have a gun to your head to force you 367 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: to buy their product. So that's that's that's the United States. 368 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: This is America. Yeah, we're in We will be there soon. 369 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Don't worry. This administration will help them. 370 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: And it just, I mean, it just cheapens everything, you know, 371 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: Like can we say with confidence that none of the 372 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: players in the game or on the take on any 373 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: of this. And because remember we're not talking about just 374 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: you know overall that who's. 375 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 3: Gonna win and buy how much? It's like all of 376 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: these little micro prop. 377 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Bets that you can place that make it so easy 378 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: to game. And we've seen this, you know, time and 379 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: time again. We've seen indict indictments for point shaving and 380 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: these sorts of things like it just totally destroys any 381 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: sense that what you're watching is really free and fair competition. 382 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 2: And then on the other side of it, like it 383 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: ruins lives. You know, you've done some of the best 384 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: research and highlight it. Thank you of the way that 385 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: you know they rig it. You can't win, if you 386 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: win too much, they kick you off, like it is 387 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 2: the definition of a rigged game. And how that is 388 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: legal is continues to be insane to me. 389 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Look, look at the number points zero four percent. Be honest, 390 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: are you in the point zero four percent? Or are 391 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: you a loser? Okay, I don't understand the willful the 392 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: willful participation in your own bankruptcy, but that's what these 393 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: people try to sell you. And to your point, by 394 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: the way, you know, even those point zero four percent, 395 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: how many of these people are just insider traders. So 396 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: let's give you a good, good example here, all right, 397 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: And to be clear, this is you know, my own analysis. 398 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: Nothing is confirmed. Calcy or Polymarket has not yet offered comment. 399 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and put D eight up here on 400 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: the screen. So you have a person here who is 401 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: speculated to be an insider Again, we don't know that 402 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: yet for sure. Who bet almost exclusively on halftime event contracts? 403 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: For example, will Lady Gaga perform during the super Bowl 404 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: halftime show? Will Travis Scott perform, Will Drake perform, Will 405 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: Balven perform? Will Ricky Martin be at the super Bowl? 406 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: Will Cardi b be at the super Bowl? Will post 407 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: Malone perform? He just happened to bet in exactly the 408 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: right way to net a profit of some sixteen seventeen, yes, 409 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: six about seventeen thousand dollars. Now you know that information. 410 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: It's not just bad bunny who happens to have that 411 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: stage hands, you know, you know, there's probably what hundreds 412 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: of people behind the scenes, all the guys carrying the 413 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: trees or who were dressed up as a tree right right, 414 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: So they probably do because journy rehearsal. My point is 415 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: just like, is there any regulation around this? Yeah? I 416 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: get I know it's only seventeen thousand, sure, but when 417 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: you come by in this with Venezuela, with all what 418 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: you just talked, I mean, the amount of prop bets 419 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: are insane. I was watching the broadcast before the Super Bowl. 420 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: You had live draftking prop bet odds beneath the broadcast, 421 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: Like this is baked into the product. How can you 422 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: possibly ensure that there is no you know, manipulation or 423 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: any real integrity of the game. And especially now I 424 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: guess it's basketball season, now that the NFL is officially done, Well, 425 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: let's put D three up here on the screen. Giannis, 426 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: one of the most famous you know, basketball players, is 427 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: now going to be an investor in Calshie. He says, 428 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: we all on calsh Now everyone is online. The internet 429 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: is full of opinions. I decided it was time to 430 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: make some on my own. Today, I'm joining Calshee as 431 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: a shareholder. We all on calsh Now. Okay, so you 432 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: have one of the flagship players in basketball joining Calshie. 433 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: Now let's then remember that Betts literally on him his 434 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: team games that he will be involved in. He will 435 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: be a direct participant in terms of the potential profits 436 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: off of set game. There have been multiple markets which 437 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: have been very swingy. Let's put D three up here 438 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: on the screen, for example, involving his own trade rumors, 439 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: which again he could now be a potential profit profit 440 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: off of. You can I mean when we are betting, 441 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: look the heads and tails, that's been a bet for forever. 442 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: We're not talking about that. We're talking about I sent 443 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: you this people on poly market. We're sitting there betting 444 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: the over under on the national anthem. People are out 445 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: there the streaker, that's a big one. Will there be 446 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: a streaker? You know, somebody pointed this out if I 447 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: because the odds weren't very good for there be a streaker, 448 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: why would you not put as much money on as 449 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: you could on Streaker and then Streak, and then you 450 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: just take eighty percent profits. What half of that, let's say, 451 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: goes to find the fees or hire somebody to do it. 452 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: You know, pay some idiot out there to pay for 453 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ticket only six thousand bucks. Let's say 454 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: put one hundred thousand on it. You get eight hundred 455 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: grand eight to one. I mean, yeah, somebody will do it. 456 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Remember we talked about the dildo thing. Yeah, back in 457 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: the wnbaight. This is every like, we cannot live like this. 458 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: There has to be regulation and this is just the 459 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: worst part. Like Calci and Polymarket are at the bleeding edge. 460 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: But I want to make clear, even legal sports gambling 461 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: with all of these profit prop bets, it's just as bad. Like, yes, 462 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: it's not as you know, Streaker or any of that 463 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: other stuff. Micro prop bets have no literally no usefulness 464 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: other than basically insider trading, yeah, and robbing you of 465 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: your money, thinking that you're so smart that you're gonna 466 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: be go oh JSN for two touchdowns. Yeah, let me 467 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: know how that one hit. I know, I literally know 468 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: somebody who took that back. And so that's what I'm 469 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: talking about. It's one of those where these guys everybody's 470 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: pretending that it's fun, it is enabling and creating millions 471 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: of gambling addicts, massively profiting all of these people. The 472 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: you know, the Calshy woman, She's like, I'm one of 473 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: the youngest billionaires in the world. I'm like, I'm not 474 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: fucking celebrating that. Let's discuss at it. Actually, sorry, It's 475 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: one of those where when we create, normalize and popularize this, 476 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: we will create a situation where this can get totally 477 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: out of control mass bankruptcies. We already know that states 478 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: which legalize gambling not only see increasing get they actually 479 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: see an aggregate increase or decrease in the amount of 480 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: credit for everybody, just simply as a result of that. 481 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: And then I mean intimate partner violence. People who lose 482 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: bets unfortunately very likely to take it out on their 483 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: wife like it's sickening. It massively creates a vice spiral, 484 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's actually the worst part. 485 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: Overwhelmingly men who are you know, who are betting. And 486 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: in fact, one of the things that we were reading 487 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: about is how women placing bets is actually a bit 488 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: of a red flag because usually there's sort of like 489 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Straws perfect, Yeah, to cover for you know, someone else 490 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: who's a you know, potential shark who's trying to place 491 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: bets that might actually hit, and god forbid we have that, 492 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, the honest one. I actually followed closely because 493 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: Kyle's big Knicks fan, so I'm now a Knicks fan 494 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: by proxy. And so he's been telling me like, oh, 495 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: we might get Jiannis and you know, they might, we 496 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: might trade Karl Anthony Towns and like this has been 497 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: an ongoing conversation and then lo and behold, like, no 498 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: trade happens. He's staying with Milwaukee, and all of these rumors, Well, 499 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: we're profiting off of, oh is he going to stay? 500 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: Is he going to go? 501 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: You build up all this hype on the other side 502 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: of like, oh, he's probably going to get traded in 503 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: the knix Er, probably get traded to. There were some 504 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: other teams that were also floated as possible locations, and 505 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: then you know, since you build up that expectation on 506 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: the other side, then the you know, the fact that 507 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: he stays becomes very profitable. So it's just discussing. It's 508 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: insane to me that an active player can sit on 509 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: the board of Calshi. That is so crazy to me. 510 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: But you know, I think there's actually connection to the 511 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: conversation we were having about the Epstein files. Bear with me, 512 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: because we're discussing, we're discussing how you know, there's all 513 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: with Lord Mandelson. There's this very clear argument to be 514 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: made this was insider trading, and that insider trading was 515 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: some significant chunk of how he was able to get 516 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: his wealth. And I think what the elites are offering 517 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: now at a time when they're trying to when they've 518 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: already destroyed the you know, blue collar jobs, when they've 519 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: already destroyed the unions, when they've gobbled up all of 520 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: the gains from productivity over decades, when they're promising to 521 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: destroy now all the white collar jobs and everything's too expensive, etc. 522 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: Rather than offering, Okay, we're gonna make it so that 523 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: you participate in you know, the promised economic growth from AI. 524 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: We're going to make sure your wages go out, that 525 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: you have ownership in these things that you know, can 526 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: participate in the extraordinary wealth that we plan to create. 527 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: Instead of that, they're doing this sort of like low 528 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: grade democratizing of insider trading, where It's like, you know, now, 529 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: it's not just for the Epstein class that can participate 530 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: in insider trading. You too might get lucky enough to 531 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: be one of the trees and bad Bunny's performance and 532 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: have some inside knowledge you can trade on, you know, 533 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 2: put your whole life savings up in order to get 534 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: together our easily fifteen thousand dollars. That's effectively the deal 535 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: that is being offered. It ties back in a sense 536 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: to the Trump accounts, the Trump Baby accounts too, where 537 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: it's the same thing. It's like, well, we'll give you 538 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: a little stake in this casino that we call the 539 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: stock market. No, you're not going to have power and 540 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: any sort of democratic decision making. You're not going to 541 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: have any say in this new social contract since we're 542 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: just like ripping up the old one and writing a 543 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: new one. You're not gonna have any say in that. 544 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: But we'll give you a little more taste of the casino, 545 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: will make it a little bit more feasible or a 546 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: little bit more believable that you're going to be able 547 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: to hit it big with this expanded lottery, which is 548 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: essentially what it is. And I mean, we all know 549 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: the you know, the state. Lotters like these are basically 550 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: attacks on the poor. So people who are desperate, who 551 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: see no other way and like to live in the 552 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: fantasy of like maybe this time it's going to hit. 553 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: Maybe this is time it's going to hit. 554 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: We're going to expand that so that more millions of 555 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: people get trapped in the cycle where ultimately, you know, 556 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: the wealth is all continuing to be funnel to the top. 557 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: But we're going to offer you a glimpse of a 558 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: promise that maybe you can be the one that's in 559 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: the Bad Bunny super Bowl halftime show and happens to 560 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: get this insider info that you can try. 561 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hand up. This is my own class bias. 562 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: I didn't notice it much until it hit my cohort 563 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: for sports betting. But you're right, and it's only after 564 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I started delving more into it and I would look 565 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: at lottery and I go, oh my god. I'm like, 566 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: I can't even believe that I that I wasn't aware 567 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: of this whole Yeah, Like, if you go to the 568 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Union Station DC lotto stand, it is homeless people out 569 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: the door, not there for warmth, They're there buy tickets. 570 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, I was not 571 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: really you know that, I'm not that in touch. I 572 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: guess with people who buy scratch offs, like every single day. 573 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Now I look for it, and I can actually see 574 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: it everywhere. Every time you're at a seven eleven, Like 575 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: every time you're at a gas station, if you stop 576 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: or something and you go in, there's somebody there, you know, 577 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: buying the tickets. Like and these are not even like 578 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: big ones, but there's something about the thrill and it 579 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: just dreams their finances. Unfortunately, wasn't as awake to it. 580 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: There wasn't enough of a mass populist movement to be like, hey, 581 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: is anyone going to take care of these people? Look 582 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: I save them from I. 583 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: Changed on this because I have more of a like 584 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: libertarian social view, so I was like, oh, you know, 585 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: adults like should be able to, you know, for their 586 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: informed and that's how they want to like spend their 587 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: money or whatever. 588 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: They're not informed. And that's the whole point. 589 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: That's the piece, is that this is not it's first 590 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: of all, it's not for infair. It's completely rigged, and 591 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: you are up against, like your brain is up against 592 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: the psychological warfare of these trillion dollar companies that are 593 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: attempting to get you hooked, that are gamifying everything to get. 594 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 3: You in and keep you there. 595 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 2: It's not a fair fight, you know, it's not like 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: I think we have these this view in the US 597 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: and in the West in general, that like, you know, 598 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: a system as long as there isn't like a gunpoint 599 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: into your head, that that's not coercion, right, that you're 600 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: not being manipulated. And that's just not the case. Clearly, 601 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: you are being exploited. You're being manipulated, and you know 602 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: you're free in sort of like a technical sense, but 603 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: the reality is the deck is being stacked against you 604 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: at every single turn. And that has become again thanks 605 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: to you know, you're really highlighting this issue. Is the 606 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: first one I really had to stop and think about, like, okay, 607 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: well what does this mean and what is it doing 608 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: to our society? And it has just become abundantly clear 609 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: to me that this whole thing is corrosive in every 610 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: way and deeply damaging it. 611 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome, this is the gateway drug to discovering what 612 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: true freedom is, what does freedom actually mean? And are 613 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: you truly free or are you a slave? If you're 614 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: out there, who is betting every day to try and 615 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: to make your wealth. So actually, the communists, I've always 616 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: understood this about structural, structural advantage and freedom. So anyway, 617 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: the point just remains if stay away, like I wish 618 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: that we had more power. I hope one day government 619 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: regulators and all of them will wake up. But under 620 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: this administration, this is not going to happen. These people 621 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: they love this shit right because they're becoming massively profitable, 622 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: and these people will pay anything to remain legal. I'm 623 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: going to do a segment soon about OnlyFans just flagging that. 624 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: That'll be a fun one for everybody to pay attention to. 625 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: But next I'm going to have to start looking at 626 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: this Calshi advertising and some of the other stuff that's 627 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: been flagged to me. These people make this cigarette come 628 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: and he's in the sixties, look like boy scouts. It's 629 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: crazy what they make. The casinos of Las Vegas look 630 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: like church nuns. Like in terms of what they're promising. 631 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: At least the casinos are relatively honest. You come here, 632 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose money, but you get to go watch 633 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh with the Bolaggio or something like that, and well 634 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: compious of tickets. These I mean, the amount of lies 635 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: that are being told about your ability to win, what 636 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: your you know, insider protection of insider trading, and so 637 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: much more buying off literal players. This is very, very 638 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: dangerous to sports, to society. But that unfortunate part, it's 639 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the revealing nature of like where we are right now. 640 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: We have got to get away from this. 641 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to push Olympics to tomorrow because Dan 642 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: Osborne is standing by. But I do want to know 643 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: what did you think of the bad Bunny halftime shows? 644 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Bone? 645 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: Were you? Were you furious? Were you triggered? 646 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so people, maybe I'm being lib I thought it 647 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: was good. I thought it was good here, so it 648 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: was very I bet you if I had to watch 649 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: it in this in the stadium, I wouldn't have liked 650 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: it much. It was clearly very produced for television. 651 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: They're all meant really fatigue no. 652 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I yeah, but it was one of those where you know, 653 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: you could see with the set the set design was amazing. 654 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean I don't speak Spanish, like, I only speak 655 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: a little bit like maybe twenty percent or so, so 656 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what he was saying purely off 657 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: of production. I was like Hey, man, I mean it's 658 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. And I'm not a big Reggaetne fan, but 659 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: he convinced me. You know, it wasn't bad. Uh yeah, 660 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I thought I actually thought 661 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: it was pretty good. There is a meta conversation around 662 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: the NFL where, look, everyone, and I tweeted this at 663 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: the time, Everyone's like, oh, they're choosing bad Bonny because 664 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: he's woke. I was like, guys, you don't know anything 665 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: about the NFL. Then the NFL wants to become an 666 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: international sport, so I don't know if you saw this. 667 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: The NFL already announced they're going to be playing I 668 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: think it's eleven international games next year. Eleven games. One 669 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: of them is a division rivalry where they are flying 670 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in the Rams from LA and 671 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Sam Francisco to Melbourne, Australia, So a major flagship football 672 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: game is going to be played in Melbourne. They're doing 673 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: this all over the world. Latin America is one of 674 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: their dream markets already. Both the LA teams have big 675 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: fan bases in Mexico and across Latin America. We had 676 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: the Brazil game that happened earlier this season I think 677 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: the Brazil game is back on. I know that the 678 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: NFL is targeting that. Also, they're all on the same 679 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: time zone so they can watch. This is pure business. 680 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: So it's one of those where look like I don't 681 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: think it really had anything to do with wokeness, but 682 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: it does relate to our conversation about gambling and all that. 683 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: I think it's bad because they just want to globalize 684 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: the sport, and with globalization basically comes what happened to 685 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: the NBA. Remember that whole Hong Kong situation where the coach, 686 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: I forget exactly, forget who it was, Stere Warri something 687 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: like this. He said something about how he supported the 688 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: protesters in Hong Kong and they freaked out because the 689 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Chinese government was like, oh my god, and he almost 690 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: got fired and the owners spoke out. With globalization comes 691 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: the same thing that happened, you know, for all the 692 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: rest of our economy. But I mean, you're almost swimming 693 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: against the tide at this point. So that's my overall, Well, 694 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: that should remain an American sport, but like it's not. 695 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: It's just that's not what they want. These people are 696 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: multi billionaires. Roger Goodell's very good at his job. All 697 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: he wants to do is expand, expand, expand. They have 698 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: all NFL fans buy the balls. They know they will 699 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: watch no matter what. They literally put games on at 700 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: nine am and people wait wake up to watch them. 701 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: People will watch anything that you see. I like you, 702 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: and I you and I support that. Other people do not. 703 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: Support that well, I mean, but also, I mean I 704 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: don't doubt that, you know, the expansion is part of 705 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: the taculus. 706 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: I mean, bad Bunny. 707 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: I genuinely didn't realize what a massive that it was, 708 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: like him and Taylor Swift. Yeah, the two biggest parties 709 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: artists of our generation. And I like, I didn't realize 710 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: how massive he is. So and not only the you know, 711 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: the international expansion, but there's fifty million Spanish speakers here 712 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: in the US, and I'm sure that's a market that 713 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: they'd like for their penetration into. So but you know, 714 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously his performance was political. I think would 715 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: be a lie to say it wasn't. You know, didn't 716 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: have political tone to it. The big thing that people 717 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: were noting was he had up that message that said 718 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: the only thing more powerful than hate his love. 719 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: He's been very outspoken about you. 720 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: Know, ice abuses, and I think he's canceled concerts even 721 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: in the US because of fear of ICE and immigration 722 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: enforcement at his concerts, et cetera. 723 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: So there's no doubt there was political. 724 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: The other thing that I didn't see as much conversation 725 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: about there was that part where they were like dancing 726 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: on the like electrical polls, and then there was there 727 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: was like an explosion, remember that, And I'm sure that 728 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: that relates to Puerto Rico's ongoing electricity crisis. 729 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: So there were those. There were those messages as well. 730 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: There was a wedding in it, which is really cool 731 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: is apparently in a real wedding where the couple had 732 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: written him and invited him to their wedding, and he was. 733 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: Like, how about instead of that, how about you. 734 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Come and get married during my Super Bowl halftime performance. 735 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: So I thought the whole thing was very I thought 736 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: it was very well done. 737 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful. 738 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: I thought it was decidedly political, like everything's political without being. 739 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I was just like, oh, it's 740 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: a good show. 741 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Well, what I was going to say is I think 742 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: it's political without being like in your face and that's 743 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: I think what people object to is when the messaging 744 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: is too aggressive and it takes the place of the artistry. 745 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: But clearly, I mean, to me, one of the most 746 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: political parts of it is just when he read off 747 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: when he said the names of all the countries in 748 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: the Americas, including countries like Cuba that were you know, 749 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: trying to utterly and miserate and destroy right now, or Venezuela, 750 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: another place that you know, we're military intervention and have 751 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: long spent time trying to destroy them, et cetera. Actually 752 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: found that to be a really beautiful and a certain 753 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: way courageous act. 754 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: I guess, I mean I thought. I mean, he's the 755 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: biggest artist in Latin America. That's his entire fan base. 756 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: That's the whole point of having the halftime show all 757 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: in Spanish. Period. Look like I said, we should decide 758 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: should we be our own sovereign nation, should we become 759 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: globalized to the entire us, to the global culture. That's 760 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: what the NFL wants. Most NFL fans are going to 761 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: put up with it. I don't think it's necessarily a 762 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: good thing. It is what it is. That's why I mean, 763 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: I just do think that people who are like, oh, 764 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, but they've gone woke. They don't care. They 765 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: just want to make money. That's all that they are 766 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: in for. They are salivating over. I mean, you know 767 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: those international games, they all sell out, they all get 768 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: people all over those countries. They show up, and they'll 769 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: show up in like thirty two different team jerseys. Like 770 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll never understand a German guy who's an Arizona Cardinal fans. 771 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: But they exist apparently, so I don't know, didn't. I 772 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: didn't really look at it that way. I was just like, Okay, 773 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: clearly they want to penetrate the Latin American market. That's 774 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: what this entire thing is about. They succeeded. The ratings 775 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: are in and they get one hundred and thirty five 776 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: million people watch it the largest pop It's also been 777 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: the most watched NFL season of all time. Like, the 778 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: NFL is only growing, and that's where they see the 779 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: dollar signs. That's where they want things to go. Like 780 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny kind of made it like a seller bration 781 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: of I guess Latin American identity really like with the 782 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: reading off of all that, Yeah, fine again, you know, 783 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: I think people know my feelings about immigration and all that. 784 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: But I really didn't find it that bad, like objectionable. 785 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: Thing. 786 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: But it was all in Spanish, and I mean it 787 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: is kind of weird. They're like, okay, I mean I literally, lad, 788 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: I speak Spanish, and like I said, I speak twenty 789 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: percent Spanish, and even I was like, dude, I don't 790 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on. So I don't know. 791 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: I mean, but a lot of people music like I 792 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: enjoy some of us. 793 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: I like some of his songs, even though I don't 794 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: speak Spanish, I don't know what what he's saying or 795 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: what they're about. 796 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been plenty of Spanish songs. 797 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that are super popular, that have been. 798 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: Very popular Shakira, you know. So it's like it's not who. 799 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: Has also performed at the super Bowl before previously Colombian. 800 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: I forget she is Colombian. Yes, that's exactly right. 801 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: We do have a reaction from Trump D's head and 802 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: that we can put up on the screen here. So 803 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: one thing that is kind of funny is that, you know, 804 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: TPUSA did their alternative Great American Have tun Suit or 805 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 2: whatever they called it with Kid Rock. It was abysmald 806 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean it, Yes, he was lip singing, but he 807 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: wasn't even bothering to like really lip saying. The audio 808 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: was unsang. 809 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: It sucked. 810 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, of course I like. And not 811 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: even just my bias, there were many right wingers who 812 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: also were like, this was really bad. 813 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: In any case, here. 814 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: Is what well, where I was going with that is 815 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: apparently a Trump super Bowl party. They did not watch 816 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: the TV. They watched bad money. Anyway, Here's what Trump 817 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: had to say. The super Bowl halftime show is absolutely terrible. 818 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: What are the worst ever? Makes no sense? Is an 819 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: affront to the greatness of America. Doesn't represent our standards 820 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: of success, creativity, or excellence. No matter understands the word 821 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: this guy is saying. The dancing is disgusting, especially for 822 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: young children that are watching from throughout the USA and 823 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: all over the world. This show is just a slap 824 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: in the face to our country, which is setting new 825 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 2: standards and records every single day, including the best stock 826 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: market in four oh one k's in history. There's nothing 827 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,479 Speaker 2: inspirational about this miss of the halftime show and watch 828 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: it will get great reviews from the fake news media 829 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 2: like Soccer and Jetty because they haven't gotten a clue 830 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: of what is going on in the real world world. 831 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: And by the way, the NFL should immediately replace its 832 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: ridiculous new kickoff. He's obsessed with the kickoff anyway. That 833 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: was Trump's reaction. One thing that was that someone noted, 834 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: some intelligent person noted, is that this truth social went 835 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: out exactly nine pm, and so they think it was 836 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: pre written and auto to auto post because it went 837 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: out exactly at nine pm, which I mean, it does sound. 838 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: It is sort of vague, like the sort of thing 839 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: you could write in advance, like it is going to 840 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: assume there's going to be some you know, some ass 841 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: shaking in it, so you can say, oh, the dancing 842 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: was disgusting, et cetera. 843 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: I get. 844 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 6: I don't know. 845 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that the whole freak out was 846 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: a bit much like I said, I view it purely business. 847 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't love it, like I don't love the fact 848 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: that it's going to become a purely international sport. That's 849 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: what they want. The more that those people get, you know, 850 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: the more money and dollar signs, the less kind of 851 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: American it becomes. At the same time, NFL fans have 852 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: nobody but themselves to blame because not only do they 853 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: put up with this shit the ratings keep going up, 854 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: so it's not exactly like they can speak out. And yeah, 855 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the freak out was just like, oh, 856 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, like I'm I'm pretty sensitive, I 857 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: guess to seeing that, I really didn't see it. I 858 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: was like, it was a good show. Yeah, he's very talented. 859 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was well produced, you know, et cetera. 860 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, with the political undertones, but you 861 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: really would have to be looking for it, in my opinion, 862 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: like to say, a celebration of all Latin America, which 863 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: again maybe it's if you don't know anything about him, 864 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 1: because I knew who he was, I knew how big 865 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: he was as a musician, and this guy sells out 866 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: shows all over the world like. 867 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: His crazy he has right now, I was looking right 868 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: now on Spotify, is the top all yeah, top five 869 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: songs are all no. 870 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 6: No. 871 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: I've seen it before. I've seen the sell out numbers 872 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: like well where some of his shows are when he 873 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: will do in Latin America. So I've been aware of 874 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny like for quite quite a while. So I was, 875 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it pretty much was exactly what 876 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: I expected. So there you go. Yeah, I thought I 877 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: actually did pretty well. I mean, apparently that makes me 878 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: a huge lip, but I was like, hey, it's a 879 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: good show. We enjoyed it. It was only like twelve 880 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: and then we move on to a very very boring game. 881 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: So congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, by the way, and 882 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold especially. He deserves it after the run that 883 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: he had. 884 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we are very fortunate to be joined 885 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: this morning in studio by Dan Osborne. He is the 886 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: independent candidate for United States Senate in the state of Nebraska. 887 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 3: Welcome sir, Thank you. Great to have you in person. 888 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, all right. 889 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: So, so how's the campaign going? This time? 890 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: You got a different opponent than last time. You're up 891 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: against Pete Ricketts. 892 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: How do things look so far? 893 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 7: Things are looking really good. So the fourth poll just 894 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 7: came out in the race and we're still statistically tied, 895 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 7: even after he spent two million dollars in the state 896 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 7: against me radio ads, TV ads. He went up really 897 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 7: early that frankly, Nebraska was not even used to see 898 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 7: and so yeah, we haven't spent much and so I'm 899 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 7: feeling really good about this one. 900 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: And so if you can remind the audience, you came 901 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: closer than many have to being able to defeat a 902 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: Republican in the state of Nebraska. Long time thought of 903 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: a lock state. You were able to do it as 904 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: an independent. You really been trying to embrace economic populist issues. 905 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: Why did you decide to run again? I know we 906 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: talked immediately after your race, but you what did you 907 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: think that you learned from that race that you could 908 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: try to do again? 909 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I suppose ultimately why I decided to do 910 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 7: it again. There was a lot of people asking me too, 911 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 7: but ultimately was I sat my family down to dinner, 912 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 7: and you know, we talked about what. 913 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 6: It would look like we do we want to do 914 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 6: this again? 915 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 7: And the resounding answer, especially for my kids and my wife, 916 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 7: where no, we don't want to do this again, right 917 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 7: because it's extremely difficult on your family life, you know, 918 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 7: being in the public eye, the mud slinging that occurs. 919 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 7: But once we started talking about the issues, like specifically, 920 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 7: my twenty two year old daughter said, Dad, I don't 921 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 7: ever think I'm going to be a homeowner, you know, 922 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 7: the first time age buyer for or the age for 923 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 7: home buyers forty years old now in this country and 924 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 7: collect lead. This generation isn't going to do as good 925 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 7: as their parents for the first time, and so issues 926 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 7: like that. By the time when we were doing the dishes, 927 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 7: it was like, we have to do this. 928 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 3: You felt an obligation. 929 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: We wanted to talk to you about some of the 930 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: sort of Nebraska specific economic issues that are going on 931 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: because you've got, you know, a unique view. 932 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 3: We're very coastal here. 933 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 2: Unfortunately we don't get to talk to that many people 934 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: from Nebraska. It's what F two up on the screen here. 935 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: I know this has been a major and significant issue. 936 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: There's a major Tyson's Foods plant that is going to close, 937 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 2: that has closed now in Lexington, Nebraska. Closure it says 938 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: here a result more than thirty two hundred people in 939 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: a town of just over ten thousand losing their jobs. 940 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: Can you talk some about what happened here and also 941 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: the failure of government that this represents, because there were 942 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 2: tools that your opponent and that this administration could have 943 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: deployed to avoid this devastating economic blow. 944 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, this is the gutting of Middle 945 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 6: America in. 946 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 7: Action, right like at a time when beef prices, and 947 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 7: beef in itself is a very high demand. They choose 948 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 7: to close down a plant that does five percent of 949 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 7: the beef production in the country. And you know, so 950 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 7: they are in violation of the Packers and Stockyards Act 951 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 7: of nineteen twenty one, which was created to prevent this 952 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 7: exact thing that they're doing, right, this consolidation of industries 953 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 7: where they can manipulate prices for both the ranchers and 954 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 7: the consumers. 955 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 6: We're seeing it play out. 956 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 7: You know, I've tried to get our federal delegation to 957 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 7: follow through with this, Pete Ricketts said, after I did 958 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 7: my press conference out there, Pete Rickett said, we'll look 959 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 7: into it. And then the day after he said that, 960 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 7: he got a donation from Tyson to his campaign. 961 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 6: And then two months. 962 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 7: Later, you know, they had a reporter catch him in 963 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 7: the hallway and he said, oh, they're not doing anything wrong. 964 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 6: Everything's fine. 965 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have some of that. Why don't we 966 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: take a listen and we'll get your reaction. 967 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 6: Let's roll it, Senator Ricketts. 968 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 8: A couple months ago, you said that you were going 969 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 8: to look into whether Tyson was violating the Packers and 970 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 8: Stockyards Act, But now thirty three hundred people. 971 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 6: Have lost their jobs. 972 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 8: So I'm wondering what exactly you did to try to 973 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 8: save that plan. 974 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 9: So they are not violating the sccer packyards. I've been 975 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 9: to Lexington to work with the mayor about being able 976 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 9: to use the episode to continue to create jobs. So 977 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 9: we're gonna be working with Tyson. They're talking about they're 978 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 9: doing evaluation what they're going to continue for. But there's 979 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 9: valuable resources there with regard to the land, the railroad, 980 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 9: spur and the wastewater plant that could be used for 981 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 9: future job. 982 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 6: What did you do to try to save it before 983 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 6: it closed down? 984 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 9: So again, this is one of the things where we 985 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 9: have a private sector. 986 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: We have a private sector, sir, and we have a 987 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: railroad and they'll they'll be fine. 988 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 6: Can I tell you what that reminds me of. 989 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 7: You ever seen Charlie in the chocolate factory the number 990 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 7: one where he keeps to stop toning that kid to mumble, Guys, 991 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 7: what is he even saying there? He's just like saying 992 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 7: words without any meaning behind them, And it's because he 993 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 7: doesn't have a defensible position because he's taking their money 994 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 7: and doing their bidding. We're seeing it over and over 995 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 7: and over again with a lot of our elected officials 996 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 7: and man, people are getting tired of it and they're 997 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 7: seeing through it. 998 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to ask you specifically about the 999 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: beef prices. Can we put F three up here on 1000 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: the screen. I'm curious for your reaction. There's been a 1001 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the administration right now to lower 1002 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: the price of beef. Their response instead of fighting for 1003 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: them like this is actually import a significant amount of 1004 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: beef from South America, which you know America first. We 1005 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: can talk I guess kind of separately about this, but 1006 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, it seems this obviously is important to many 1007 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: people on the coast and the rest of the country 1008 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: for just the price for our ability to afford at 1009 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: the grocery store, but for a year state, it's a 1010 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: lot of jobs. It is like central to the identity. 1011 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: Can you just talk a little bit about that. Well, 1012 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: ranchers are finally starting to make some good money. You know, 1013 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: thirty years ago they were making seventy cents on the 1014 00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: dollar for their product. 1015 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 7: Uh now, uh, you know, we're they're lucky to make 1016 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 7: thirty cents on the dollar. But this year, you know, 1017 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 7: with the demand is high, and so in conjunction with 1018 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 7: the consolidating of the packers and then now this ranchers 1019 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 7: are going to suffer. 1020 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 6: Absolutely. I've been talking to them. 1021 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 7: You know, a lot of a lot of MAGA ranchers 1022 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 7: reposts a lot of our stuff online because of they 1023 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 7: understand what's happening and they're pissed. 1024 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: Off, zooming out from this specific issue. How is the 1025 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: economy in Nebraska overall? 1026 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 7: Well, I would say I would say that overall it's 1027 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 7: it's been steady, you know, especially in Omahon Lincoln with 1028 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 7: job job growth, but I feel there there's definitely a 1029 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 7: sense of decline with brain drain. 1030 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 6: You know, with our governor using I don't even know if. 1031 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 7: I can say it on air, but you know, okay, 1032 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 7: he uses the we'd lib TRD frequently, and you know, 1033 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 7: just a common disrespect for human decency is what we're 1034 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 7: seeing with a lot of our state and federal delegation. 1035 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 7: And so that's prompting people to not want to stay 1036 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 7: in our young people specifically not want to stay in 1037 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 7: our state. 1038 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 6: And you know, we need to. 1039 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 7: Be continually growing and we need to be protecting our 1040 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 7: rural way of life too. You know, we're at an 1041 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 7: all time shortage for row Croft farmers and that that's 1042 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 7: going to continue to happen and two percent of the 1043 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 7: population feed the rest of us. We have to have 1044 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 7: sustainable farming practices and that doesn't include consolidation a bag right. 1045 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 7: That that includes keeping them profitable with things like stringent 1046 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 7: right to repair laws. If you own something, you should 1047 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 7: have the right to repair it. I mean, these tractors 1048 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 7: cost upwards of a million dollars. So if you're a 1049 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 7: young person wanting to you know, live that rural way 1050 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 7: of life, you it's almost impostussible to break into that 1051 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 7: right now, go ahead. 1052 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 2: And put F four up on the screen to that point, 1053 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: so you know, you've got this twelve billion dollar farmer 1054 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: bailout that the administration has pushed through. This as real 1055 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 2: crop farmers in the Midwest and great Plans have a 1056 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: better idea of how much money they can expect from 1057 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,479 Speaker 2: one time federal aid payments announced last month. You've got 1058 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: you know a lot of people in line to receive 1059 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 2: these funds. I know a lot of analyzes that say 1060 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 2: that this won't be sufficient. This of course relates to 1061 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: the terror regime that this administration has pushed forward. You know, 1062 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: what are you hearing from from farmers about the state 1063 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 2: of the AIG economy and their ability to make it 1064 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 2: and whether or not this bailout will be sufficient for them. 1065 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 6: It's a joke. 1066 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 7: It's a joke they and they see it. I talk 1067 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 7: to them every day. I was just talking to a 1068 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 7: bean farmer the other day and I asked him about 1069 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 7: that bailout. 1070 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 6: First of all, they don't want handouts. 1071 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 7: They want a market to sell their product, right, So 1072 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 7: he is sitting on beans that he can't sell, and 1073 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 7: so I asked him, how is that twelve billion dollars 1074 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 7: going to help you to stay afloat? And he said, well, 1075 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 7: first of all, it's not the twenty billion dollars we 1076 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 7: gave Argentina, right. 1077 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, good point, that's in question, right right. 1078 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 7: I mean, then you can add maybe another twenty billion 1079 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 7: dollars arguably to make it forty billion dollars. 1080 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 6: Argentina gets now we're buying their beef. 1081 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 7: But the bailout, he said, what it's going to do 1082 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 7: is it's going to help him buy his seed and 1083 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 7: his chemicals for next year. But it does absolutely nothing 1084 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 7: for him this year. So I think what this is 1085 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 7: going to cause and I believe we're already seeing it 1086 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 7: more consolidation of ag right, the people that can afford 1087 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 7: to come in and buy them up, the Bill Gates 1088 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 7: of the world buying up land in Nebraska. And again 1089 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 7: it goes back to sustainable farming. And it's just it's 1090 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 7: not good for Nebraska, it's not good for the country. 1091 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: Frankly, So, how do you think about tariffs? I'm curious 1092 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: because you know, I know a lot of soybean farmers 1093 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: many others were dramatically affected. However, we do you have 1094 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: to balance our national strategic priority with China. How do 1095 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: you think about tariffs as a tool when it respects 1096 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: with respect to agriculture. Many lobbying, you know, even farmers 1097 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: or against tariffs specifically for this reason, which I understand, 1098 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: But we have a lot of things to think about. 1099 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,439 Speaker 1: You might be a United States centator. How would you think. 1100 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 6: About the question, Well, you hit the nail on the head. 1101 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 7: It's a tool, right, And as a mechanic myself, I 1102 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 7: don't just have one tool. I don't have a big 1103 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 7: old hammer that I use for everything. Right, you have 1104 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 7: precision machine tools, and you have a whole array of tools, 1105 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 7: and this is one of the tools that you use 1106 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 7: to protect American jobs. I mean, we've seen it be 1107 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 7: successful in the automotive sector. You know, you predominantly the 1108 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 7: F one fifties and the Silverados and the RAM trucks 1109 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 7: are still predominant here in the country. And that is 1110 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 7: you know, you could argue that is due from our 1111 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 7: tariff policy. So it has their place. But I do 1112 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 7: think the power of the tariff should be with Congress. 1113 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 7: It shouldn't be with the executive branch. It was never 1114 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 7: designed that way. We should go back to doing it. 1115 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 7: Congress has that control. 1116 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: Let's zoom out a little bit and talk about the 1117 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 2: political landscape. You're obviously you're an independent. You're running as 1118 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 2: an independent. I think most people would look at the 1119 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 2: state of Nebraska and say, a Democrat, no matter how good, 1120 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: you know, would not stand a chance of winning statewide 1121 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 2: in a state like Nebraska. You know, it shifted very 1122 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: much to the right. It's deeply read deeply Republican. At 1123 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: this point, what do you think it is about the 1124 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 2: Democratic Party that is so appalling to so many people in. 1125 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 3: A rural state like Nebraska. 1126 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 7: Well, I think I don't know that I'd use the 1127 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 7: word appalling but I'll give you an example. I went 1128 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 7: I went door knocking in Weeping Water, Nebraska. 1129 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 6: And when we're. 1130 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 7: Driving around going door knocking, I look for the Trump 1131 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 7: sign because I want to talk to that person. 1132 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 6: I want to understand and let them know who I am. 1133 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 6: And you know why I'm running. 1134 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 7: And what I found is the last guy that answered 1135 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 7: his door had a Trump sign out front. 1136 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 6: He answered the door with his daughter. 1137 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 7: He was obviously a wrestler, he had the cauliflower ear, 1138 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 7: and his daughter was a wrestler. He was getting ready 1139 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 7: to take her to a match. And he loves his 1140 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 7: family like most people do, right. They fiercely love their 1141 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 7: kids and they want to do everything that they see 1142 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 7: fit to protect their kids. And so it's all about 1143 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 7: the message that people receive. 1144 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 6: He lived in Omaha, and he got out of Omaha. 1145 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 7: Because he didn't want his daughter going to school where teachers, 1146 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 7: male teachers were dressing as women, you know, and trying 1147 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 7: to tell their kids that they could be anything that 1148 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 7: they want. Now, this didn't happen, but the idea is 1149 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 7: constantly put into their head. Right, so I think, and 1150 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 7: this is who's creating the division in the country. They 1151 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 7: will keep us divided on anything, whether it's a Second 1152 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 7: Amendment or whether it's transgenders or LGBTQ, whatever, the issue 1153 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 7: is that they can divide us with, they'll use it, 1154 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 7: and then they'll keep hounding it. 1155 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 6: So people believe that and that's perception is. 1156 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 7: Reality right instead, though, But those are the very same 1157 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 7: people that want us to stay blind to the fact 1158 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 7: that we're getting robbed right with the consolidation of our industries, 1159 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 7: the monopolies, the billionaires that are carving up the country 1160 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 7: for themselves. 1161 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 6: Those are the ones that want to keep us divided. 1162 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: So I think some of that is true, But we 1163 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: do have a reconcilable differences in the country. A lot 1164 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: of people still vote, you know, based on them. One 1165 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: of them is immigration. I know you've had some different 1166 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: views on the subject. You are from a heavily rural state. 1167 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: You're talking about farm shortages. How do you think about 1168 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: illegal labor? I know you have I think you were 1169 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: against the shutdown. I know Senator Rickards has I criticized 1170 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: you for talking on both sides of your mouth, So, like, 1171 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: what's your definitive immigration policy for the state of Nebraska. 1172 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 7: Well, Congress needs to do something, including Pete Ricketts. We 1173 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 7: need meaningful, humane immigration reform that we haven't seen in 1174 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 7: this country since I've been alive. 1175 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: Well, what do you mean by that? 1176 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, we know. 1177 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 7: We need more judges, we need more lawyers. We need 1178 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 7: to figure out how the people that are here, that 1179 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 7: are working, that are upstanding members of our community. There 1180 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 7: are friends, there are neighbors. We have to figure out 1181 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 7: a way for them to have a path. 1182 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 6: Right. 1183 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 7: I don't believe in general amnesty, but I do think 1184 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 7: there should be a path to citizenship. And you know, 1185 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 7: we were promised that they were going to come in 1186 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 7: and take the criminal elements out, and that's not what 1187 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 7: we're seeing play out. 1188 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 6: Right. 1189 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 7: I don't think too many people would disagree that if 1190 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 7: you're a violent criminal that you shouldn't be here. But 1191 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 7: you know, the folks that are hard workers that contribute 1192 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 7: to our society by paying taxes. I mean, I think 1193 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 7: two billion dollars undocumented workers paying to Social Security that 1194 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 7: they'll never get out. Those are the kinds of issues 1195 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 7: that we do need immigration reforms. So we need more judges, 1196 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 7: we need more lawyers, and we need better laws to 1197 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 7: help promote What. 1198 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: About in the meat packing industry, Let's see we were 1199 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: just talking about that, for example, heavily reliant to make 1200 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: cases on illegal labor. Sure many may not be criminals, 1201 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: like in terms of violent criminals, but they are violating 1202 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: the law being president here illegally. Do you think that 1203 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: the company should bear some responsibility for that? 1204 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, they're the ones. 1205 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 7: They're the ones benefiting monetarily right, paying them next to nothing, right, 1206 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 7: and enriching themselves. And those are the ones that can 1207 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 7: afford to buy a senator or a house member, and 1208 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 7: I certainly can't. And so I think really the most 1209 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 7: important issue of all of our times, it all kind 1210 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 7: of goes back to campaign finance reform to take the 1211 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 7: ability away from these lobbyists and special interests to control 1212 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 7: our elections and quite frankly control our elected officials. Because 1213 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 7: if you want to work in Nebraska or Texas, Montana, Florida, Ohio, 1214 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 7: it costs one hundred million dollars to run for US Senate, 1215 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 7: that's insane, a billion dollars to run for the US president. 1216 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 6: Like, those are the things that we have to clean up. 1217 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 6: So we have to figure year out of way. 1218 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I'd love to just end Citizens United, right, 1219 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 7: I know it's harder said than done. But maybe there's 1220 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 7: state laws or something we could do to curtail that, 1221 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 7: or maybe we can make it especially. That's how I 1222 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 7: view my campaign is if we elect somebody who doesn't 1223 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 7: take corporate pack money or a PAC money or anything 1224 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 7: like that, special interest money, if I can't relate it 1225 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 7: back to working people, I don't. 1226 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 6: Want your money. 1227 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 7: So if we could win in a state like Nebraska, 1228 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 7: we could set the tone for future elections that if 1229 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 7: you take this money, this dirty money, and you're going 1230 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 7: to do their bidding, we're not going to vote for you, 1231 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 7: because ultimately, there's a heck of a lot more voters 1232 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,959 Speaker 7: out there than there are billionaires, right, and we. 1233 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 6: Still have the power. 1234 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 7: We just have to take it back and we have 1235 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 7: to cut through the noise and talk about the things 1236 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 7: that are affecting our everyday lives. Like so, I call 1237 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 7: it paycheck populism, right, I get a paycheck every week. 1238 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 7: I know how much comes in, I know how much 1239 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 7: goes out, and I know how much harder it's getting 1240 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 7: to provide for my family these days. 1241 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 2: One thing we focused a lot on this show is 1242 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 2: overall the AI industry and then the specific flights point 1243 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: of these massive data centers that are being located in 1244 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: a lot of rural areas alone, my own talent has 1245 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: seen a number of them being being put in. There's 1246 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: huge issues with regard to land usage, water usage, and 1247 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: with electricity bills going up. And I wonder if you've 1248 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 2: seen any of that in Nebraska, if that's become a 1249 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: flashpoint in any sort of way. 1250 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 6: As there's a ton of them. 1251 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 7: There's data centers Google, Facebook, Amazon, you know the AI 1252 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 7: data centers there they go up. Yeah, it provides jobs 1253 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 7: in the short term, you know, to build these structures. 1254 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 6: Especially, it's good for the buildings and trades folks. 1255 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 7: But once these things are up, I think it takes 1256 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 7: like five people to run a data center, and they 1257 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 7: are taking up valuable resources. Nebraska sits on the Ogo 1258 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 7: La La Aquifer, the biggest body of fresh water maybe 1259 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 7: in the world. 1260 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 6: I don't know, we'd have to fact check that one. 1261 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 7: But they are using this resource up because they need 1262 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 7: water to cool their equipment. 1263 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 6: And then what really. 1264 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 7: Makes me mad is my power bill is going to 1265 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 7: go at five percent. That's that's a pretty big chunk 1266 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 7: of change. And we've had the I suppose the pleasure 1267 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 7: of having public power in Nebraska, so our power is 1268 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 7: considerably lower than the rest of the country, but it's 1269 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 7: going to start rising because of these data centers. Meanwhile, 1270 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 7: Jeff bezos Is buys a yacht and he can't sell 1271 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 7: it under a bridge, so he pays to dredge out 1272 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 7: the river or where the bay or wherever that was at, 1273 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 7: and I'm paying for it Like these are extremely profitable 1274 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 7: businesses that should be figuring out a way to pay 1275 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 7: for their own power. 1276 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: Well, sir, we always appreciate your time. We enjoy having 1277 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: you on the show. Thank you for coming me. 1278 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1279 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell people where they can find you if 1280 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: they're interested in learning more about your campaign. 1281 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go to Osborne for senate dot com. 1282 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 7: That's Osbourne without any not related to the ex football coach. 1283 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 2: But that didn't even occur to me, but I'm sure did. 1284 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 6: The money will it will to people in Nebraska. 1285 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: I like it, Dad, Thank you so much, great for you, 1286 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks so much for watching guys. We appreciate it. 1287 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: With a great show for everyone tomorrow. We'll see you then, Kay,