WEBVTT - Is This Interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, welcome. Do we know his parenting? I bet no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Peter McNerney. Were parents. We're here, we're talking. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking the real ship about parenting. Just step one in

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<v Speaker 1>and here resting. How skitterly, Bob, we're free form jazz singers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen that YouTube video of I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>blinking right now? The actress from Sex and This, Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Kim Catt. Yes, it's so good. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we both know that? Because it's a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>video skittered a bar if you just want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>She's with her boyfriend and she's like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just like to hang and experiment, like and he is

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<v Speaker 1>he playing the bass? Yeah, something like that. Oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>is real serious. And she's like the fox went down

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<v Speaker 1>to the avenue and said, but it's so confident and

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing. She has no idea how lame it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. It's maybe it's not unlike you, who I

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly how lame I am? Yeah. Anyway, parenting, parenting, parenting,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing every day, every second. So are

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<v Speaker 1>we our kids are bad lately? I don't. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the stress of everything, right, now they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, the last two days have been

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<v Speaker 1>market different, positive compared to the terror that you speak of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, I mean there was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>melt on yesterday because we went to Brooklyn and had

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<v Speaker 1>a big fun day and they got real tired and

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<v Speaker 1>melted down a bit. But overall great, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're also very adorable. But I had a very funny

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<v Speaker 1>story from the other night, which is Naven was having

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<v Speaker 1>a huge tantrum and she was like, I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put her in pajamas, so she's like naked and angry,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I pulled some pajamas out of the drawer

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<v Speaker 1>and she was so mad and she wanted to put

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<v Speaker 1>them back in the drawer. Um. But instead of throwing

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<v Speaker 1>them back in the drawer, she Marie Condo rolled them

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<v Speaker 1>back up very angrily and carefully and then put them

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<v Speaker 1>back in the drawer. And it was because we've like

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<v Speaker 1>we started rolling up the kids clothes because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>easier to see every But it was just so funny

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a three year old do an angry Marie

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<v Speaker 1>Condo careful. I was like, wow, this is really my daughter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well she that's how she thinks folding happens. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>she sees me do it, and angrily, Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this folding. I'm going to roll it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so funny. I love opening those doors and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all those little close burritos close. Yeah, they do

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<v Speaker 1>look cute, all their little clothes. It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a sushi display. Although my cousin told me

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<v Speaker 1>once that she doesn't fold her kids clothes at all

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<v Speaker 1>because kids clothes are so tiny. She just throws them

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<v Speaker 1>all in the drawer. And I was like, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I used to do until you made me

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<v Speaker 1>watch Marie Condo. Yeah, and then I got into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Condo, who I have to say, stole my whole

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<v Speaker 1>system for my clothes that I've been using for years.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't really do a burrito. I do more

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<v Speaker 1>of a flat Um. Yeah, well she doesn't do burritos,

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<v Speaker 1>but for small kids clothes, I do what kids close,

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<v Speaker 1>I do a full role. She's also way more careful

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<v Speaker 1>about the way she does it, like she can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do it into like lay it on its end,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of in a triangle. So it says standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have the other clothes to sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>in place. And I'm not that particular. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to see everything. Yeah. No, I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>really down where I had a folded outward and in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain side so that when it's in there, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see what's printed on the shirt, because the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I did, I do it all inward and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know which shirt is which. Oh I see I

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<v Speaker 1>have a nearing hotward for years. This well I'm catching up.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, we is this boring? Is this interesting? This

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<v Speaker 1>is fascinating? Everyone loves it. My friends and I, um we.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this before in the podcast, but we use

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<v Speaker 1>this app called Marco Polo where we send each other

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<v Speaker 1>videos and you can it's kind of like chatting with people,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't have to schedule a time to FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>You just leave a video message. And so I do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing whenever I whenever I feel like I'm rambling

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<v Speaker 1>onto along, and I suddenly realized that no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this, I will be like, is this interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we all just started doing it. Like anytime

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<v Speaker 1>someone starts trailing off, they're just like, is this interesting

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because I'll walk by and hear Marco Polo

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<v Speaker 1>is going, and I've heard that phrase a lot of time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a nice note dissolve, like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think when you hang out with other like

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<v Speaker 1>comedy type people, it's like hard not to be constantly

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<v Speaker 1>aware of like whether you're creating good content. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like life? Yeah, well, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>used I've been in marco polo groups with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>like bigger groups, and when you're with people who do

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<v Speaker 1>are not like people you know from like improv or

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<v Speaker 1>stand up or whatever, they're like people will just ramble

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<v Speaker 1>for so long sometimes like and you're like, this person

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<v Speaker 1>is not editing themselves at all. Like it's just this

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<v Speaker 1>person has never watched a four or five minute video

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves doing improv, that's for sure. Anyway, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost my mind this weekend. Yeah, but emotional things going on,

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<v Speaker 1>very busy but very exciting stuff. But ah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>did my trick show on Saturday, and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional state. Um, I've been arguing with you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit that day, but I also had sweet things

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and Bryn told me me a lot that day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't need to get into it, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into it big big things and but also

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<v Speaker 1>really positive things. And Bryn told me that he was

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<v Speaker 1>thankful for me, and it melted my heart. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went to go do an improv show in this just

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<v Speaker 1>mess of emotions. And I go out on stage and

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<v Speaker 1>at the Magnet Theater there's a little side section for

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<v Speaker 1>overflow seating and some there are some people sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and two of them just had hot nachos and casadilla's

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<v Speaker 1>out on their lap, just eating a full, smelly meal.

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<v Speaker 1>And normally that stuff stresses me out. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these people are not self aware. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>distracting during the show, and I'd worry about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead I just turned to them and I go, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't eat in here. You gotta take that out. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to take that out. And I started yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>these people and they think it's a bit and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy told me I could take get in. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>putting the house manager? I go, no, he didn't. His

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<v Speaker 1>job is to make sure you don't bring a foot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I yelled and I made them to put the

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<v Speaker 1>food away and I was joking, but I also legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>was making everyone in the theater uncomfortable. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>apologized and I joked it off, and then we started

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and I was so annoyed at them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're also happened to be that type of people

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<v Speaker 1>that two seconds in they just started talking to each other. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>does this relate to what we're talking about? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>we going this? What? I don't know how they started

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<v Speaker 1>talking and I stopped the show and I got three

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<v Speaker 1>inches from this guy's face and I said, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to shut the funk up or you need to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. And I really shamed him insane um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he stopped talking. Who goes to the theater theater

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<v Speaker 1>sits with their feet on the stage and thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear them when they're just chatting away. The

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<v Speaker 1>point is I had my students the next day say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was very uncomfortable what I did, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they said it was a very good show. The first

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes were very uncomfortable. But you know me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not character. Please don't do that again. Father, This

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<v Speaker 1>is not in character for me. No, but you you

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<v Speaker 1>have this like white man confidence when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a certain level of anger and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I deserve to be hurt. Like it's just, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve to tell that guy to shut the funk up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did, and I have no regrets. Don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to a show and talk idiots, don't go to the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't bring smelly nachos into theater and then talk. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they thought it was like an Alamo drafthouse. They did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they thought it was like a stand up

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<v Speaker 1>show where they're going to be drinks and tables. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. They had a great time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they thought it was really funny that I was rasing them.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't know that I hated their guts. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. Yeah, boy, I thought this would be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun story and I just kind of angry. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't understand how it really relates to what

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about. But I think it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>comedians know how to edit themselves. And so I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to ramble on. You're like, I'm a comedian, I have

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<v Speaker 1>something to say. Let me prove to you how I

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<v Speaker 1>can edit myself. I'm self aware. Is this interesting? You're

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of this. Is this interesting? My version is

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting, not a question? This is interesting? Um, yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>our kids are crazy. I also think you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>we've been trying to deal with a lot with our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>our bathroom renovation or holiday lead up and works ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and our kids have not gotten out of the house enough,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the apartment as much as they should. And

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<v Speaker 1>there I think we had we've had spent a whole

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<v Speaker 1>week inside waiting for a toilet to arrive. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>it has all that, We have everything we need for

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<v Speaker 1>this reno patient renovation. You've done all this work and

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<v Speaker 1>I and you look forward to taking credit for it

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<v Speaker 1>in one way or another. You don't even let me

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<v Speaker 1>finish because I was just about to do the exact

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of what you accused me of, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>say you have done all of it. Um, I've helped

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<v Speaker 1>only where you've asked me to. Well, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what is giving me slight anxiety about it now is

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<v Speaker 1>that I ordered these tiles online and then their cement

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<v Speaker 1>tiles and they showed up and they're very thick, like

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<v Speaker 1>over half an inch thick. And I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. But at this point, I'm so tired of

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the renovation that I'm like, I'll just go

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<v Speaker 1>or like, I'll buy the cheapest floor tile on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>if I need to. If I find out that the

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<v Speaker 1>contractor is like, we can't work with this. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>really cool tile. They're very cool. But yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a small it's a small chance that it's like seven

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<v Speaker 1>down the train and we'll find out soon. The floor

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<v Speaker 1>might be three inches above all the other floors, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not even They're going to put a little legend.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the guy. I've talked to a guy

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and I feel like I'm getting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better about talking to the guys, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, I just i feel like I'm becoming

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<v Speaker 1>this person. That's just like if I'm confused with the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, what do you mean? What's that? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that work? What's going on? Like I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get pushed around with these guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no need. You're in charge. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you what you want. So okay, guy, you work

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Um, listen, guy, you work for me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but please only palets on in front of my building, arauil,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be in tears. How many pallets did we

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<v Speaker 1>have to throw away? Any three palelets? Is the answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Toilet didn't come on a pallet? Yeah, toilet came on

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<v Speaker 1>the random guys back his back. A man trotted up

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<v Speaker 1>with a toilet upon his back instead. Have you ordered

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<v Speaker 1>yonder toilet? Come hither? Um? The home depot guy first

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<v Speaker 1>all hump de bow mostly great. But I didn't deliver

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet when they said they would. I called them

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody figured it out. The guy it was the

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<v Speaker 1>last delivery, and so instead of bringing the truck, he

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<v Speaker 1>just threw the toilet into his car and drove on over.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's faster on the highway with us, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just comes carrying this super heavy toilet. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, is this an insurance issue if something

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<v Speaker 1>happens in his personal car? And that's as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about it. Is this interesting? No, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>useful phrase. I am definitely gonna start using it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good cover. It's a good cover if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a constant inner monologue of low self esteem. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>do it a natural version of that by talking louder. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I teach a lot of improv classes, which has not

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<v Speaker 1>been good for curbing rambling, because you have sixteen people

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<v Speaker 1>that have to listen to you and are there to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to you and want to listen to you, so

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<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't necessarily say they're there to listen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're there to learn how to do impronise. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>think those two things are related. I just I there's

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<v Speaker 1>a feminist rant that I've been. It's been on my

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<v Speaker 1>been needing to get off my chest all week, which

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the dentist this week, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so tired of certain things like in like

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<v Speaker 1>just happening over and over again in my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I go to the dentist, This very nice dental

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<v Speaker 1>hygienist woman who works there, spends half an hour cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>my teeth, being nice to me, talking to me, she like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explaining things. Um, she's like, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>young mom. Whatever. Then the it's time for the dentist

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and give his little inspection so we

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<v Speaker 1>can hear him talking the other room, and she goes

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<v Speaker 1>and checks on him multiple times, but he's very engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in man splaining teeth to another patient and just going

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<v Speaker 1>on and on, loving the sound of his voice. And

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<v Speaker 1>as the dentist of man splaining teeth, Yes, what is

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<v Speaker 1>his job to explain teeth? Yeah, it's literally his job

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<v Speaker 1>to come in in man's plain teeth at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>after this woman did all the work and then he

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<v Speaker 1>and he probably makes three times which he makes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me livid, and so I have to we

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait for him in the other room, literally

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<v Speaker 1>like ten fifteen minutes that he's taking just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>teeth with this person. And then he comes in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>glances at my mouth, pokes around as like re explains

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<v Speaker 1>what this woman has said about teeth decay and leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like I did. I didn't even need

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<v Speaker 1>that man in my life. I had to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>him for him to waste my time. This woman has

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<v Speaker 1>already done all the work, like I don't. It's it

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<v Speaker 1>just makes it's so the layers of annoyance, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he makes probably so much more money than her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I I just walked through the world and

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<v Speaker 1>these things make me feel crazy because it's like because

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<v Speaker 1>like every industry, every industry has like designations, like different roles,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well, the person who runs the office

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<v Speaker 1>is lower on the totem pole and they get less money. Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying. You also would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be the dentist. Well, I mean, I've been in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of people who do things for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I empathize with the person that is not

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<v Speaker 1>doing the day to day. I've done all the day

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<v Speaker 1>to day. I also don't know enough enough about it

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<v Speaker 1>being a dentist. I'm sure any dentist listening would have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to say about that. Um. See, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing as as a white man, you intrinsically assume that

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<v Speaker 1>he's more important. Um. I would assume that a person

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<v Speaker 1>who is a full dentist um has skills that the

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<v Speaker 1>dental higgenist does not are I don't know. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he does, but I don't think it warrants the level

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<v Speaker 1>of importance and pay that he is getting up of.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what it when it matters is when there's

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong, and that's probably the difference. But you go

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<v Speaker 1>in and it's fine, and his job is a coming

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<v Speaker 1>and go all right, yeah, nothing to add. But then

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<v Speaker 1>as a society, we put our focus on having people

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<v Speaker 1>for when things go wrong, and then we don't create

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<v Speaker 1>prevention plans for a variety of issues. I think dentistry

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<v Speaker 1>is over a kill on prevention. I don't need to floss.

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<v Speaker 1>Floss is a fucking scam. I'll tell you last time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the dentist not. This is not to invalidate

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<v Speaker 1>your experience. I had a different one with the there's

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<v Speaker 1>a dentiligenist there that I love and she's my regular

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<v Speaker 1>person and she's great, and uh, but she wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had this other, sweet young woman who

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<v Speaker 1>was the most condescending pat She was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know about flassing. Let see if a man

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that to you, you would have been like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's right, No, fine, I don't care. The result was

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a million dental hygienists before my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had negative feelings towards any of them ever,

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<v Speaker 1>because who gives a ship, They're doing the job things.

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<v Speaker 1>They mostly male, No dentifligens. I almost exclusively been women.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not put sexism into my brain. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>one dental higienist that I've had a negative thought about,

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<v Speaker 1>and I despised her. I could not hide my hatred

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<v Speaker 1>as she cleaned my teeth. She just so slowly and NonStop,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, these things matter. You know you think

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, then you've gotta you gotta, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>foss and you gotta. I do think I do agree

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<v Speaker 1>that the prevention of the dentist is a little bit overkill.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're blowing it a little bit out of proportion,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the job. But also I am amazed at

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to think and talk about teeth day in

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<v Speaker 1>and day, because I feel like I'm putting on a

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<v Speaker 1>performance when i'm there, as though I think about teeth

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I'm like, yeah, you're right, teeth, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>canines incisors because they're always re explaining the most basic

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of tooth aging, and they're like food gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on the teeth, especially those ones in the back, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I have to act like I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard it before. But like, also I'm interested in agree,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just like, yeah, totally. Like I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>though about eight nine years ago, I hadn't been to

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<v Speaker 1>the dentist forever. And I went to the dentist and

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<v Speaker 1>this another general highgienist said, have you um received our

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<v Speaker 1>toothbrushing tutorial? And in my head, I did a major

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<v Speaker 1>eye roll and I'm like, you're not going to teach

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<v Speaker 1>me how to brush my teeth? And I was like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and she goes, great, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she puts up some fake teeth and the toothbrush

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<v Speaker 1>and she starts starts showing me the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>brush your teeth. And I'll be damned, I learned something

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Uh. And since then, every time I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the dentist, they say, your teeth are immaculate. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite thing is my dentist high gentist. I do like said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you told me that you did floss, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have believed you. That's how good I was brushing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have that woman, the previous woman to think and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say, oh, you're not going to teach

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<v Speaker 1>me someone I don't know, you be open to being

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing? Well. The woman that my dunetle high she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, been, you've been flossing and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>not as much as I should. And she was like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says that, and I was like, yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get caught in a lie and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't floss enough. None of us do. Well, that's so,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't really tell. That's the thing. The time before,

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<v Speaker 1>two times ago, I finally decided I'm so sick of

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<v Speaker 1>lying to the dentist. So she goes, how often do

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<v Speaker 1>you floss? And I go never? And then she said, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>if you told me you flossed, I would have believed you.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the most validating thing that has ever happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing. I think this is another one

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<v Speaker 1>of the lies of Western medicine, is that we place

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<v Speaker 1>all this importance on brushing our teeth and cleaning them

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<v Speaker 1>when realistically, I think our diet has a way big

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<v Speaker 1>or impact on what's going on with our teeth. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say in college, when I went home

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<v Speaker 1>for Thanksgiving and had eleven cavities, I'll disagree with you

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<v Speaker 1>on that one, because there's a way to do it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's to be scared and alone in college and

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<v Speaker 1>have a mountain dew every night and be shoddy with

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<v Speaker 1>your brushing. I literally just said, diet has a bigger impact.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just proved me right by saying you had

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain dew every night. Well, and also I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>brush well. I think drinking like sugary beverages. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying what you put in your stomach matters

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<v Speaker 1>more than what you put on your teeth. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's both like you have sugary stuff like hang on

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth all the time, but also your body. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you're coding your insides and like chemicals and

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<v Speaker 1>sugar and not like the actual food nutrients doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't help your body's ability to recover and fight

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<v Speaker 1>infections and things like. Yeah, well, after three hours in

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<v Speaker 1>the duchess chair getting all those services filled, I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>drinking soda forever and I've had no issue since. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this interesting? Interesting? And now it's time for did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we share something parenting related that we've

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<v Speaker 1>learned from something we've read or seen or dreamed. Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>in uh So, I want to talk about an article

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<v Speaker 1>from the Atlantic. It's called stop trying to Sorry, stop

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<v Speaker 1>trying to raise successful kids. You gotta give credit to

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<v Speaker 1>your sister who sent this to my sister sent um

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<v Speaker 1>the subtitle is and start raising kind ones, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just sort of a cool explanation of why you

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<v Speaker 1>should not be so focused on achievement for your kids

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure you're um, you know, praising them for

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<v Speaker 1>kindness and reminding them of that. It says, kids learn

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<v Speaker 1>what's important to adults not by listening to what we say,

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<v Speaker 1>but by noticing what gets our attention. And in many

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<v Speaker 1>developed societies, parents now pay more attention to individual achievement

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<v Speaker 1>and happiness than anything else. However much we praise kindness

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<v Speaker 1>and caring, we're not actually showing our kids that we

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<v Speaker 1>value these traits. And then they talked about this cool

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<v Speaker 1>study about how kindness is actually decreasing measurably in Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, in one experiment, a sociologist scattered thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be lost letters to in dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>American cities in two thousand one, and again in from

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<v Speaker 1>the first round to the second, the proportion of letters

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<v Speaker 1>that was picked up by helpful passers by and putting

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<v Speaker 1>the mailbox declined by ten percent. When the same experiment

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<v Speaker 1>was conducted in Canada, helpfulness didn't diminish. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting that Canada is not declining in kindness

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, especially if you look at our politics

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<v Speaker 1>right now. UM. And it also goes on to say

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<v Speaker 1>that UM kids born after are less Oh. It says

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<v Speaker 1>they they are just as likely as their predecessors to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that other people experiencing difficulties should be helped, but

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<v Speaker 1>they feel less personal responsibility to take action themselves. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a really interesting an interesting year to

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<v Speaker 1>draw line in the same decision. They're less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>give to charity, but I'm also like, because none of

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<v Speaker 1>us have any money anymore. Yeah, I mean, also they're

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<v Speaker 1>younger and don't feel responsible yet. I do think that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, but it sounds like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interesting to see what that data is coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>well one of us. One of the stats that I

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<v Speaker 1>found really interesting this was when asked parents, uh like

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<v Speaker 1>of parents said that the thing they wished most for

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<v Speaker 1>their kids was for them to be kind and respectful people.

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<v Speaker 1>And when kids were asked what their parents, what the

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<v Speaker 1>kids thought the parents thought was most important, the kids

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<v Speaker 1>said it was like achievements. Yeah. Well, and it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So the authors of this UM said they also noticed

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a parenting trend to sort of train kids

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<v Speaker 1>towards more towards confidence, and it said in some parenting circles,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, there's a movement against intervening when preschoolers are

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<v Speaker 1>selfish in their play. These parents worried that stepping in

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<v Speaker 1>might prevent kids from learning to stick up for themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and say that they're less worried about their prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>raising an adult who doesn't share than one who struggles

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<v Speaker 1>to say no. But there's no reason parents can't teach

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<v Speaker 1>their kids to care about others and themselves, to be

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<v Speaker 1>both generous and self respecting. Um. And they also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of explained that It said that that emphasis on toughness

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<v Speaker 1>is partly an unintended consequence of the admirable desire to

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<v Speaker 1>treat boys and girls more equally. Historically, families and schools

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<v Speaker 1>encourage girls to be kind and caring and boys to

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<v Speaker 1>be strong and ambitious. Today, parents and teachers are rightly

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<v Speaker 1>investing more time and energy and nurturing confidence in leadership

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and girls. Unfortunately, there isn't the same momentum around developing

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>generosity and helpfulness and boys. The result is less attention

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to carrying across the board Yeah, there's this weird thing

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and you see it in different types of education, and

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it weirdly, it makes me think of these sort of

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>anti bullying education which I a lot of think a

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of those I think are super misguided because they're

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all focused on that like standing up to a bully

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to making kids recognize, uh, the bully in themselves.

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And that focus on generous generosity and kindness to empathize

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with people is a more positive thing than the like

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>stand up for yourself. That's sort of like, I'm not

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>going to intervene. You've gotta be tough. Yeah. Uh. I

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>will say this article makes me worried for our son,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like we have not He's sort of

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a naturally selfish, attention loving person and we have not

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>necessarily done enough to promote him being more caring. Um.

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I will say, I've I've spent a lot of time

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>with him talking about this because I'm very aware of this.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of our conversations where you know, I'm

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm kidding him to go, well, talk about how

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think people feel when that happens? Doesn't it

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>feel good to help people? And this the last two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that I have really been happy is seeing is

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>our kids being nice to each other. Um. And there's

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting part in here where they showed a

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>test where when if you forced a kid to share,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>they will be bitter and not like you. But if

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<v Speaker 1>if you make it their choice, if you give them

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the option, a kid who gives a goldfish to another

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>kid from their own bowl gets a hit of satisfaction.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>That is uh, that is like empowering to them. And

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's I've seen that in our kids, like when Maven's like,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I give them these cups tonight for dinner. And Maven

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>saw that she had this blue cup that Britain normally has,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and Britt had a green one if so maybe didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care because if it's not paying, she doesn't care. They

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>call it the helper's high. Yeah. And Maven sat down

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, brand you like the blue cup? Would

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you like the blue cup? And he gave She gave

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>him her cup and he switched and she and goes,

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Maven, You're welcome, and they're like, my heart melted. Okay,

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>but you're still using an example of Maven being nice

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to illustrate why Bruna's well, he has been doing things

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like that too recently, and you know, like, maybe would

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you like to hold my hand? He came out of

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>daycare the day was do you want to hold my hand?

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And it held it and then he just stopped in

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the yard and gave her a big hug and said

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like you're my sister or something like that, and he

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>was proud of her. Do you remember though, a couple

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago when he was saying really nice things

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>to us and he was like, I love you, daddy,

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>And then he was like, I'm being nice, so I

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>don't get on the naughty list. But well, the example

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to give was like the other morning when

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you and I were in a fight and then you

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>stormed off, and then I was very stressed out and

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>crying in front of her children. Mayven came over and

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>gave me a hug, and Brin stood up on the

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<v Speaker 1>bed and decided to try to do some pratfalls to

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<v Speaker 1>cheer me up. And that's why I feel like I

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is not really what I want. It's

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>not really the comfort I'm looking forward on. The empathy,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit more like my dentist. No, well,

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.479
<v Speaker 1>both of those. I'm those both make me so happy

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to hear um because it shows emotional intelligence. They both

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>know that somebody is in pain, and it uses always

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a little more self serving. I mean that is how

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I would do it. I would distract and try to

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>cheer you up, whether that's good or bad. He was like, oh,

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking, Well, what the bit Now, I'm gonna punch

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>myself in the face. Wait what and then he punches himself.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>It's almost really good, but it's not quite clicking. No,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it needs work shopping. Well, something that the big lesson

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>in here for me is that, oh, of course again

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it's modeling. You can tell your kids things, but you

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>need to just show them. And the first thing I

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>thought of, like, sometimes you know, and everybody does this,

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>but I know that we've been guilty of this where

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>we sit around and we're talking and then we just

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>we start ship talking people like not a ton. But

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been in moments where I realized we've just spent

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like an hour ship talking people, and our kids have

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>been listening to us. Really, you and me, Yeah, well

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>there's usually somebody else here, who are we I don't

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like we do that much at the time. We

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do it a lot, but this has happened, This

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>happened once before or at the end of it, I

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>realized I was like, Oh, I really wish a brin

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is too old. I really wish he hadn't witnessed any

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of that. And it's I don't think this is a

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>big issue with us. But that was an example of like,

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him seeing me do that. Yeah. Well,

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they gave a good example in the article where they

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about, you know, you don't want to need to

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>like badger your kids into being nice. But they were

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like when they come home from school, instead of asking

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>them what they did that day and what they achieved

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that day, asked them if they helped anyone? And they

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>the authors this husband and wife talked about how they

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>over time asking their kids at the end of the

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.959
<v Speaker 1>day like did you help anyone? It made their kids

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>start looking out for opportunities where they could like share

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a crayon or do something. And it also is really interesting. Um,

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the article goes on to make a point about how

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>being helpful actually does make people more successful. Yeah, that

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was fascinating. Their statistics to back that up. Yeah, a

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of statistics it said, boys who are rated as

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>helpful by their kindergarten teachers earn more money thirty years later.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Um It said students who care about others also tend

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to see their education as preparation for contributing to society,

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>an outlook that inspires them to persist even when studying

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>is dull. It's it's kind of a nice explanation because

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the helpers high. It's like, doing these

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>things it improves your mon mental health, it makes you happier,

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and then that's naturally just going to make you better

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>at everything else you're doing, and connecting with people and

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>working like it's just good for all of us when

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we're nice. I relate to I think the times i'm happiest,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a real selfish part of me where

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in charge and I want people

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>to think I'm great, But I'm more interested. I want

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>people to see me as somebody who cares about other

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.919
<v Speaker 1>people and who is helping other people. I want people

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to if people look up to me. I work with

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are younger than me, so I'm

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>an authority figure and there's a different kind I feel

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>really good about that position when I feel like people

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>see me as somebody who's sticking up for them, who's

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>who's kind and encouraging, giving people opportunities I'm proud of.

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I know what that feeling is, and like that's

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>what I want to model to my kids. Yeah, I

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>mean I feel like I am a nice person in

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>my day to day like I do, like if I

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>spot an opportunity to be nice, I'll attempt to go

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>for it. But I don't think I do that in

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>front of my children. And that's what concerns me is

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean I did, like I did have to

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>tell Burn the other day he was making a huge

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>mess with the croissant at the coffee shop, and I

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, we cannot do this. People work here and

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they have to clean this up. You can't make a

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>huge mess like this. But I don't think that's the

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>same as like him seeing me be nice. Yeah, And

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the main point of this article

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is the be nice to people is not as effective

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>as one modeling it being nice to people in front

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of your children, um, but also when talking to them,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's more effective in that storytelling element that like, hey,

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>what is something nice you did today, who did you

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>talk to, who did you play with? And getting them

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to naturally go back to that social place in their

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>head to tell the story and to re examine it

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>through the lens of kindness. That sticks because they can

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>actually come back to those moments and recognize them when

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they happen again, as opposed to a theoretical hey be nice.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And I do think Brent is nice, and he's like

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the most social kids in his class, and

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he talks to everyone. I just don't think he has

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the same thing as much as mayven of like just

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>being tuned into someone else's pain or like needs. But well, yeah,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean I understand that. But we're very much talking

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>about the difference between you and me, where where you

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>know I'm a little more oblivious to two people's pain

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>In a certain way, I worry less about people because

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I can be distracted and not focused on things, and

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you notice everything. Um, but when I do notice, it

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>matters to me as much as it does to you.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And the Brindan Maven are similar in that difference. Perhaps

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>from what you told me about his parent teacher conference,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the thing I was most proud of was when you

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the teacher said that Britain plays with everybody. Yeah. I

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I want my son to be that kid. Yeah,

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is this interesting? This next segment is called Listeners want

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 1>to Know. It's where we take questions and comments from

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys. It's called listeners want her Nose. But I'm

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just going to be a ship dentists. Yeah, I went.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to to seven years of semantics school

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to not get the title right. This emails feels incredibly

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>appropriate to read because it literally just came into my inbox.

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's an update from our dear friend Susan. Um. Susan

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>wrote in recently about asking for potty training help. Um boy,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we gave any great advice, but

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>she wrote back the subject line is update on my

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>shitty kid pun intended. I haven't read this yet, so

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a cold read. She's still shitty literally. Thanks

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>for the potty training advice. We are taking another break

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and I will try to just follow her lead and

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>let her come around to it when she is ready.

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But I still refuse to put diapers on her, so

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 1>she is in pull ups all the time now. After

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>listening to Peter talk about Brent's epic meltdown in Target.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to share a few things that have been

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>helping in our household. One, have you read The Whole

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Brain Child. I've been slowly waking my way through this

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>book and it's been very helpful and explaining why my

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>child is a psychopath sometimes and how to deal with it.

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>He gives a bunch of techniques to help our kids

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>integrate the more compulsive quote unquote caveman parts of the

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>brain with a higher, more rational brain. My two my

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>therapist recently gave me this parenting technique. Instead of asking why,

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>questions like why are you crying? Ask what are you feeling?

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Help them might identify what they are feeling and problem

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>solve what to do when they feel that way in

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>future situations. Obviously, this should be done after they are

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>calm three sitting, setting clear expectations and consequences, and sticking

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to them. This is like parenting one oh one. But

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I am the worst at this, so I eagerly gave

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>into my three year old's tantrums, but I'm working on

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>suffering through them and sticking to my guns. Peter did

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a good job of this in Target. Thank you. I'm

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:12.240
<v Speaker 1>not sure. I just pulled out the guns too fast,

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>but I stuck to them. I'm not sure if any

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of that is helpful, but figured i'd chair. I wish

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>these kids came with instruction manuals because I have no

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>idea what I'm doing. Well, you should buy there's no

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>manual parenting pregnancy book written by Beth Nowal. One more thing,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>What are you getting the kids for Christmas? Susan? Um,

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we have gotten well, I've gotten better at sticking to

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 1>my guns with them. Baby, you did it tonight. Great.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Maven was in there going mommy mommy for twenty minutes.

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>At least I know her games and you didn't. You

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't give in Um, yeah, sorry, I just blanked on

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>what she was saying before the listener was saying. But

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 1>for the um our dear friends. Susan had several things

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to say, and I will review them. But first let's

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>go backwards, Shelley, what are we getting the kids for Christmas?

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>We are getting them the okay, so x men, well,

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>my parents might get them. Next, I suggested X men

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to somebody as well. Okay, well, okay, they're getting Checkers.

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>May even is getting a my little pony glittery toys

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that she insisted on having because she saw the gift

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>for her cousin in the closet, so that's the only

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>thing she wanted. Um Brin is getting one of those

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>little science toys of like a human body where you

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>can pull out all the organs, which I'm excited to

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>discuss organs with him. Oh my gosh. We discussed organs

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>in bed tonight because I read a Oh yeah, I

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>was in the bedroom while you were doing bedtime with

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>them and reading a sex book or whatever, and I

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just kept here ring them maybe and kept going a

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>girl with a ween er, and then she would and

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>then they would giggle a lot, and then later she

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>would go a penis and they were super giggly, and

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>so I got them in bed by going, you want

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to read a butt with books? I'm sorry, I flipped

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that you want to read a book with butts? And

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>they said yes, and then we got heavy into anatomy.

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>They were really into it that I overheard them have

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a conversation last night where Brynn was like, yeah, I

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>have a wiener and like he was like, man's like,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>what's that whole? I don't like, I really don't know

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what they were showing each other, but like it sounds

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like I don't well. He started talking about butts at

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>some point in here too, and he was there like

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>he was like, you just have a butt with another

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>pe hole and I have a wiener And she was like,

0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>very self important. Much of my fan dentist. Um, who's

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the real dentist. He's being a real dentist about it. Uh.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say that my best friend's dad

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>is a dentist and he's the nicest man in the world.

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>To keep going, I've just been feeling guilty. Man's pleaning

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>isn't about niceness. Oppression is not about being polite. I

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to defend the one dentist I know. I

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just feel like you fundamentally misunderstand how oppression works. I'm

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>not trying to invalidate your experience. I just want one

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>person to know that I love them. Okay, I'm sorry,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>keep going anyway. That's that's the end of the story.

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I explained testicles to Brandon tonight, and I realized he

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>had never heard anything about them. This is another thing

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I overheard from them. You were like, You're like, you're screwed.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Um has these balls in it, and he's like balls

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of screwed um talk. Well, just realized like

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the earlier the night he kicked me in the crops

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way that genuinely hurt and I realized he

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, bring, you just kicked me in

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the crotch and that didn't mean anything to him. Well,

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because we need to teach him more empathy. Well he doesn't.

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't clearly hasn't gotten hit in the crotch in

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a way because he's like why why is that a problem?

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I have had moments lately because he gets in this

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like punchy mode where he starts like jumping on you

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and pinching and stuff where I sometimes get so frustrated

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that I will like lightly slap him or do whatever

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he's doing to me to just be like do you

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>see what that feels like? Like they're just like because

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>he's so annoying. Um not, I don't not like really

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 1>hurting him, but it doesn't even know for the record,

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this isn't nowhere close to a real hit, but scrapping

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>around on the bed. I just occasionally want to remind him, like,

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you are hurting someone I know you don't believe the

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>words I'm saying or seem to care. Also, you can't

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>actually hit him because but you do it so light

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>that it's aggressive enough that he's like whoa. But then

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's fun so he wants to do it more. Yeah,

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he really can't win with him. Um. So that's what

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we're geting for a Christmas. So there's there's three points

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in here that we should we should react to. Uh,

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>setting clear expectations and boundaries. This is the thing we've

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>talked about a ton. I think we've been really good

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>at that. Yes, I think we have both improved in

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>our weak spots except for target. No unerstand my target

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>because that came out of nowhere. But not laying down

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the law. I have been much better at just sort

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of going with the flow and not putting my foot

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 1>down immediately. And you've been excellent at not giving into them.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Um. The second thing is the instead of

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the why are you crying? You know why questions don't work?

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh remember what I was going to say, The thing

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>about describing your feelings are Brand's kindergarten class does this

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's like a big part of the curriculum

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>as they talk about different feelings going into different categories.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So there's like the zones of emotions. Zones emotions. Yeah,

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like feeling frustrated or whatever. There's four colors. It's

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>funny because I asked Brian about something that happened at school.

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>He was talking about kids like laughing at him or

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>pointing at him or something, and I was like, how

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 1>did that make you feel? And he was like disappointed,

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's such a funny. The clear

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>way of him describing well, the word disappointed connects right

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>back to target, because you know, he screamed and he screamed,

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was horrific anyway in there, and he was

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>punching me, and I was keeping calm, and I was

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>joking with the people looking at me. And we get

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the store, and as soon as we got

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>into the park a lot, I lost my mind and

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I like put him in his car seat and I

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>drove away. And then then when he started kicking the

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>seat and he threw all the animal crackers around, that's

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.240
<v Speaker 1>when I slammed on the brakes and I turned around

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and screamed at him more aggressively and angrily and rage

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>filled than I ever had before. And then we did

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>tell this entire already on the podcast, but calm down,

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>got to the spot and turned around. Then I tried

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 1>to like have a serious conversation, but I was still

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>so enraged. And the first thing I said to him

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>with such intensity is that I'm extremely disappointed in him.

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And ever since then, he has been using that word

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to mean like I'm in rage. It's like the worst word,

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>because it was the worst thing was ever happened. He

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>just flips everything. He's constantly trying to discipline me and

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>threatened me. It's really how about this? That's how he

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>starts everything with how about this? Yeah, He's like, well,

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:12.760
<v Speaker 1>how about if you punish me, then I will do this,

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, if you don't do what I say,

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll get all the chocolate I've started too. If he

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>starts negotiating, I did you hear that that? That's my

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>alarm that says it's fifteen minutes at the bedtime? Is

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 1>that interesting? Is this interesting? Um? The second he starts negotiating,

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I pretend like he's not there because I can't believe

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>how many times I fall into the trap of god

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>negotiating with him. But I really connect with this. I've

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>had really positive moments with Bran and Maven if you

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>do it at the right time, not when they're in

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the heat of like what's something emotional, but as they

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>come down making don't ask questions like yeah, like why

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are you crying? What's the problem? They don't have answers

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for that stuff, but instead give them a leading question

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that connects to their emotions. I'm like with Brandon, like,

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling pretty angry? Huh, and he goes yes, And

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>then if he actually responds to that, I know we

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>can we can veer away from the current thing and

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about how we got there. Those are really good

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 1>parenting moments. I agree. So I agree with this. Maven

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>is really resistant to that though, because she knows she's

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>being manipulated. Have I tried to talk to her or

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like going to be like, oh, you're feeling rough? She's like, boy,

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the one the one to three magic with with Maven

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Brandon really works. The first few times we did one

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to three and then he got punished. One to three

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>w works with brand with may even you start to

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 1>do it sometimes it will work now, but she's so residential.

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>She was being so bad the other night like she was.

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>There's like so many things. She wasn't listening, and it's

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like threatening so many things. And then finally I was

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>just like, should I throw your princess box away? It's

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that works is the threat of throwing

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>away all of her sparkly pink toys. Trying not to

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 1>get to that place now, I don't want to. It

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 1>feels cruel. But when she's been fighting bedtime for like

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, I'm not many times, Ah, she is getting

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>mature enough to understand consequences. I mean she's three. That's

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the problem. It's bad though, because then when I have

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to say stuff like that to her, Brian chimes then

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I'll go throw it away? Should I Like,

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:56.439
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're not helping, Brian. He's like, oh yeah,

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I can continue to throw out rules. Um. And to

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>your first point, Susan, I have not read the whole

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>brain Child, but I want to. Now you've sold me

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>on it, and can I just have curiosity? She refuses

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to put diapers on her, so she puts her in

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>pull ups. Are pull ups diapers? Um? Yeah? Not according

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to kids of that age. It's true. I don't want

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 1>to I don't want to yuck here. Yum, Yeah, she

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>loves pull ups, but I don't you know what, never mind,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this is the victory. You stick to your guns. She's fine,

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.879
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. You stick to your guns. As I said

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>last week, when she looks back on this time in

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>two or three years or later, you will forget all

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of you will have completely forgotten when or how you

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.879
<v Speaker 1>potty train, and none of it matters. As you can

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>tell from last week or whenever we read that email,

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>yes for advice, I was like, boy, I had opinions

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 1>about this at one point, yeah, but not anymore. This

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