WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Fans React To Amari Cooper Trade 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:16.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.840 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:31.240 the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.120 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome inside the 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.000 s WBC Mortgage studio for Talking Cowboys on a bye 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.879 week Wednesday. It's sort of like a Wednesday. Cowboys will 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.160 practice here in about an hour. That right, Mick, one 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.640 hour and thirty. As soon as we finished, we got 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.520 to walk outside or the inside one of the two. Well, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.840 it's supposed to were supposed to have one hundred percent 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.680 chance of rain, and it sounded like when I was 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.200 doing my deal with the fan, it's already raining downtown Dallas. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.039 I haven't got Bucky's forecast yet, so doesn't look like 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.440 outdoor practice. I didn't see anything. Yeah, the water buckets, 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.679 squeers tell you where they're going to do I did 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.160 or anything. Yeah, I didn't say say any signs that 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.560 they're going to work outside, all right. Rob Phillips hosting 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.720 for Bill Jones Today Wednesday, List Jones Day. The way 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.240 it rolls. He's got TV obligations. He is TV man, 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.280 you're radio man, and so are you. Brian brought us, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.880 Mickey Spagnola, Kent Garrison next door producing as always. Well, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.759 not a typical bye week Wednesday, not typical bye week. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.320 It's not quiet around here. No, they've got a new 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.080 wide receiver that should be there here today, was here 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.399 yesterday if you want to go on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.880 Nick Eatman spoke with Amari Cooper for the first time 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.080 since arriving in Dallas, and uh, you know, I don't 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.040 know what we'll what we'll be able to glean from 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.800 practice this week. Yeah, shorter practices, lighter practice, assuming he's 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.760 ready to go. I know he was in concussion protocol 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.320 before where he was traded here or agreed to be 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.560 traded here. Sure can't trade or hurt player two, by 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.520 the way, that's true. So so he had to pass 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.880 a physical and all that. He did that yesterday, so 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.320 he's good to go. Yeah, the trade even have helmets 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.280 on today. Um, that's a good question. We've seen that 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.880 in the past where they have not, so yeah, that 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.720 might be more of but it's been in the past 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.359 two with him he's done a thing where he's a 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.040 lot the backups. It's been a teaching teaching thing. Yeah, 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.399 he's let the young guys, letting the backup guys get opportunities, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.960 like the guys you know with like uh, you know, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.680 Cameron Fleming will get some get some snaps. I'm sure 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.400 how about Sue a Philo will get some snaps. How 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.560 about Adam Redman, you know the offense, I mean, you know, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.040 get those backup guys a few more, few more reps. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.600 They they don't get as mini during the week, so 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.720 it's good option. Maybe get some your practice squad guys 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.519 a look or two, see if they see if they're 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.120 paying attention to what you're trying to do. I know 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.440 that's secondary to compare to what's going on in the season, 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.760 but that's how coaches approach what we're going about to 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.920 probably see for the next couple of days. Keep the 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.240 as veteran players you know, off their feet, let them 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.840 kind of catch their breath, heal up their bodies a 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.680 little bit more, and then you know, get ready for 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.200 the second half push. And as Rob you wrote about 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.720 the injuries those guys, you know, just let him rest 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.600 right and a healthy team so far. Yeah, a couple 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.359 of guys banged up, Zack Martin, Jeff Swaim. Bryan said, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.680 those guys aren't going to practice. They got nice sprains 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.400 from the game. So watching being an MCL is that 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.359 what Jason said for both guys. Guys, yeah said hopefully 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.080 not too long for Jeff Swaim. Zach was able to 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.639 tape it up and play in the second half, So 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.440 that's that's encouraging. Randy Gregory got a nice scope, by 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.960 the way, yesterday, he must have had to lose something 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.840 in there if he's gonna be back real soon. I remember, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:49.040 I remember h Jay Novochek had it during the bye week, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.720 and by time they played the next game in the playoffs, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.880 he was playing. It's like, seriously, yeah, It's like within 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.200 two weeks he was back out there. They think he'll 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.880 be ready for Tennessee. So I had a friend go 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.240 through a scope like that and it was a kind 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.000 of a meniscus deal and he was asking me about it. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.520 I go, yeah, I go. You know, Jay was out 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.360 there in two weeks. I think three months later he 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:17.840 finally got back on the tennis court. Yeah different, yeah, yeah, sure, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.960 what else are they trying to get out of this 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.159 bye week typically, I know, besides resting guys and maybe 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.400 given some reps to some other guys on the roster 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.280 with your regulars, your starters. Yeah, more of a self 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.400 scouting situation, Yes, it is. It is self scouting. And 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.400 the way the league now has it set up because 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.840 of collective bargaining, is because you have to give them 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.080 so many days off four straight four straight scouting include 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.440 right Saturday and Sunday. Right. So with that being said, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.640 you know, back in the day, you could have practiced 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.320 them all the way up till Friday and then giving 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.200 them you know, then say Saturday, and then you have 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.359 to be at Sunday night. You remember what you remember 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.240 would build the build it and let them know that 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.240 Friday if they were going to have the no Thursday, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.240 they were going to have the weekend off. And then 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.839 at the last minute he goes, yeah, but you got 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.880 to be here on Monday exactly. So, yeah, the rules 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.719 have changed a lot. You know, they're thinking about the 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.440 players and what they're what they're doing, so you know, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.000 there's not really a lot you can get done. The 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.880 focus this week needs to be on on getting a 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.360 Marie Cooper ready. The best they can and and and 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.839 I mean acclimated, and I mean with meetings, you know, Rob, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.880 you and I did a mailbag this morning and it 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.440 was a really good question by our the gentleman or 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.040 that wrote in. And he's asking, what can Sanjay Lyle do? 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.039 You know? We know out I keep saying on Hurns, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.320 we know what a Maury Cooper can do as far 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.440 as a route runner and his ability to catch and 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.039 all that, But how can Sanjay Lyle help him? And 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.839 you know, the classroom stuff will help, but he's got 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.279 to be able to help him with when they do checks, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.160 you know. And and I'd be more of a game 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.320 plan thing when you know, how do you how do 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.680 you help a guy to get ready? You say, okay, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.240 when well, when the when the quarterback checks this, this 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.359 is our route. And when he checks this, this is 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.960 our adjustment. And this is when see I think Cooper 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.800 will be fine as a player playing the game. It's 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.160 when Dak Prescott decides he turns his body sideways and 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.080 starts moving his hands or you know, putting his hands 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.440 together or tapping them together, whatever he has to do 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.719 to kind of tell the wide receivers. Okay, now you 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.960 adjust your route from this to this, So they're gonna 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.200 have to get him up to speed how quickly they 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.240 make adjustments on the fly if in fact they see 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.599 something that they mean, you don't want him out there 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.120 running the wrong route and then Prescott throws him out 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.159 and he's going on that vertical thing and then everybody says, oh, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.400 there it is chemistry problems. So it's problem you know, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.920 communication issues, you know, all those things like that. So 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.479 you know, the most important thing for him is to 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.760 try and learn when they make adjustments, and a lot 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.440 of they'll have to do with game planning next week, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.360 but this week they can kind of say, Okay, these 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.760 are kind of the built in things that we do 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.160 when we see certain coverages. So pay attention when you're here, Uh, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.320 Dak going kill kill kill, yeah, And see if he's 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.520 sitting there going yeah yeah, and he's and if he 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.599 goes palms up on you, then that's a that's a 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.480 terrible sign. That's a terrible sign because again, that could 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.760 be something that Dak is going to take off a 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.640 run and he's gonna try and throw a quick screen, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.720 or he's gonna throw a slant on the backside or 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.680 something something different is going to happen, and that's gonna 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.320 be the most important thing I have no I have 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.440 no doubt that that Amara Cooper is going to come 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.400 in here and be ready to learn and to run 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.400 routes and to try and help this football team. Like 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.160 he said, it's the communication things that he's going to 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.240 need to learn here in the next two weeks that 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.200 could either help him, you know, go further or you know, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.920 kind of keep where we're at right now with some 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.840 of the things. I can't because I haven't seen a 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.520 wide receiver where like a wristband with the plays on there. Yeah, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.720 it's been a off or what they're doing is back 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.080 go to high school games. I saw something. I saw 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.280 something last night that I don't think I've ever seen 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.600 in the world. It was in the World Series. The 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.480 catcher Ketch as him had a deal on that wrist 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.160 right and he's checking I guess he was checking and 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.040 what pitches for what players or how they were going 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.520 to pitch stealing maybe maybe maybe to avoid some signs stealing, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.320 but also too you know he was who had it on. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.360 Was at Boston or Los Angeles? I thought it was 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.840 I thought it was the Dodgers. Yeah, catcher sometimes in 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.400 the lineup might be on there. You know, he's got 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.720 an idea of how to maybe pitch a pitcher or 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.200 a pitch. I saw that. But but it's yeah, they're 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:27.720 just gonna have to get this guy up to speed 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.840 that way. I think that's really the most important thing. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.880 I think all the other physical things that he has 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.520 to do, that'll just be fine. He'll learn, he'll you know, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.360 and and don't be surprised if him and Daks sit 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.400 around the lecture. I mean, this guy's got to go 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.720 sit in a hotel room for you know, the evening, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.040 the afternoon, whatever. Don't be surprised if you know, Dak 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.160 Prescott's hanging out here, you know, with him after practice. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.600 So maybe a few park cars in the parking lot 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.400 and the player a lot. You know, it might be 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.120 Dax and you know, heck, they might go to dinner afterwards, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.679 talk a little more. I mean, it's this is important. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.120 I mean, this is a really important This is one 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.080 of those moves where it can can clearly make a 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.880 difference to your football team. Because for seven weeks we've 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.160 talked about the inability the offense to do things that 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:07.880 they need to do. They've done well on the at 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.480 home and and function better, but that's because they function 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.440 with a running game. And you know, now they need 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.520 to figure out, okay, if we don't function with the 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.640 running game, how do we function with a passing game? 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.400 And and a lot of this is going to be 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.280 on Dak Prescott's ability to come up to speed, uh, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.320 you know, with the Maury Cooper. But also, you know, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.880 don't be surprised if some other guys get involved. You know, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.800 some other you know, some other guys are meeting with 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.360 them to try and figure out some of the things 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.319 that they need to do a little bit better. And 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.160 a lot of this it's not about the physical work 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.720 now about you know, timing and practicing more. It's about 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:43.000 the mental to get that down so he can play 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.560 fast and not be sitting there wondering, am I running 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.520 the right route? Right in the middle of the route? 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.719 Am I made the right adjustments? So just being in 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.600 the playbook and being with Sanjay Law and Dak and 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.280 because because a lot of people are going to sit 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.320 here and go, I know it's going to happen. It's like, well, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.360 they only got two days of practice in and it's 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.960 only one hour or how much. You know they're Bill 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:09.000 set it on our show yesterday. Who did Bill right? Yeah? 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.480 And he's I mean they do have a couple two hour, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.760 one hour much today. Yeah, it's better. It's better than 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.439 getting ready for a game, It really is, you think 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.400 about it. At least at least they have some time 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.880 now to to sit down and go through those things. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.200 When you're getting ready for a game plan, you don't 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.280 have much time to sit there and coach guys up 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.040 along the way. But it's there's been some amazing players 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.720 through the years. I remember Sterling Moore coming in here 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.959 with like really gotten claimed or signed two days before 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.320 a game and going out there and playing nickel corner. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.160 You know. I mean, there's there's guys that this guy 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.760 is just tremendously talented that that I have absolutely no 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.040 worry about. But what I what I what I would 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.920 have a little concern about is getting him up to speed. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.240 But this guy seems very bright, you know what. And 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.600 he did out of problem and he seemed and obviously 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.000 I haven't seen him yet, but just seeing at the 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.600 interview that Nick did with him, he seems to be 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.640 the non wide receiver. He seemed to be very humble. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.160 He said, you know, it seemed like he didn't come 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.200 in here and start big time, or at least it 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.720 didn't seem like No. I don't know. I guess we'll 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.320 get a chance maybe today in the locker room. Um. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.200 I wish they would just set something up and we 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.400 don't have to get thirty people around one guy and 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.640 put them in a podium. Would be a good idea, Well, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.199 I don't. It doesn't even need to be a podium, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:28.360 just somewhere where people can like be normal and and 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.319 everybody can hear instead of it so you're tired of 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:36.000 having to box people out like your West unset. I've 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.680 been getting boxed out, and I'm trying to make friends 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.320 with the cameramen that have a mic in there, and 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.880 they have their little earbobs and they can do without 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.320 one of them. And sometimes my good buddies like Hose 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.840 and Alex will give me one of their earbobs. I 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:57.680 can listen, but bubs, nut bobs, earbuds, airbubs, earboads. We 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.839 you know, let me see. Are you guys getting the 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.520 feeling that are you guys getting a feeling a lot 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.240 of pushback from fans. Yes, yeah, well they getting pushedback 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:13.119 because of the selection or the player. I think probably 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.120 giving up your first round pick. Yeah, you know. I 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.080 mean I'll sit here and say I wish it was 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.360 a second sure, But if that was the price of 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.439 doing business, to try to do something to not only 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.040 save this season but go forward or with something that 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.240 you were gonna need eventually, right then yeah. You know. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.680 I went on a huge rant yesterday and trust me, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.079 I've my experience of being on the personnel side. Who 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.560 would you do it with? No? I ran it here 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.160 yet yesterday. I feel like I ran it yesterday about this. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.360 But you know, I I understand. I mean, fans, I 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.760 get it. I know you don't want to give up. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.080 You know. Hey, it's gonna make me and Dane Burglar 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.760 and David Hellman and those guys dig harder on the 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.760 Draft show. I mean, it's gonna make us deaf to 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.080 dig a lot harder. But that's what we do, and 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.520 I'm okay with that. But I'm also I'm also looking 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.360 at as a situation though, where you could have sat 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.480 there and done nothing, and then what are you didn't 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.360 you know? I mean my approach has always been I'm 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:12.880 gonna do everything I can to try and help my 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.800 football team. Whatever I have to do to help my 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.960 football team. I'm gonna trying to help my football team. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.120 You know, you should be you should be happy that 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.400 they're at least trying to do something. You know, you 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.240 look at the Giants and what they're done. You know 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.280 what they're doing. You know they're they're trading away some 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.320 of their best players. There's giving away you know, Eli Apple, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.160 and you know what I mean. You can say what 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.080 you want about him. He was a first round he 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.000 was a first round corner Gone Snacks, Snacks, I mean, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.800 one of the better defensive players. I mean, good for 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.400 the Cowboys. You don't have to face him anymore. But 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.199 I just I look at it as you know, I'm 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.160 gonna do whatever I have to do to make this 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.480 team better right now. And if it means going out 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.360 and giving a premium pick up to get a wide 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.720 receiver or get somebody that can help my team, I'm 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.480 all for that. I don't I don't see because, like 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.440 I said yesterday, I've been with Jerry Jones when he 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.000 doesn't have a first round pick, and it is the 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.360 most agonizing thing in the world to watch, and it's 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.240 the most agonizing thing in the world to be in 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.560 the room with him when that's when that's going on. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.960 But he but he's but he's made the commitment to 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:20.360 try and help his coach, his offense and his defense 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.200 and his quarterback. You know, these are all things that 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.600 I think that you know, as a fan, you should 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.080 try it. You should appreciate that you don't always have 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.200 to agree with every move that Jerry Jones makes, you know, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.000 I mean I surely don't. And he, you know, he 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.200 you know, he's told me that he's like, hey, Brian, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.760 you kick my ass pretty good. But you're fair about it. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.640 You know, I think you have to be fair about it. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:47.120 But I applaud him for doing something that he, uh, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.320 philosophy wise, doesn't want to do. But he did it 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.240 to try and help the team. By the way, if 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.360 you want to chime in five two two ninety seven 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.440 your thoughts on the trade, I think we might have 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.760 taken a call or two yesterday. Yeah, I probably should 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.280 open to me, there's two schools of thought that I'm 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:09.080 getting hearing from fans media whoever. Number One, I think 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.600 fans love hope, they love the draft They love the 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.720 idea of having potentially a high first round pick. You 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.640 don't know where this pick's gonna fall for now, and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.880 that's hope. You've seen Amari Cooper in the league for 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.680 four years and you see a guy that's had a 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.360 couple of good seasons and a couple of seasons that 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.480 have fallen off a little bit. And I think that 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.320 lends itself to the other side of it. I think 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.280 some fans look at this like it's a band aid, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.280 you know, on a situation a team that is probably 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.480 not going to contend for a championship, and that's that's 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.280 the frustrating part. Maybe you go ahead and you hoard 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.040 that pick, you keep it, and you try to build 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.920 for next year. I'm with you, Brian. I think they 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.240 send a strong message to the locker room that we're 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.320 not we're not giving up on this thing. Yeah, and 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.800 we're not going to waste a championship calor performance out 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.800 of our defense. So far. This is no question. This 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.280 defense is playing like a Super Bowl defense. They're giving 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.600 up seventeen set. It's a game right now. Well, and 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.720 I guarantee you on that side of the building, they're saying, look, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.960 if we can just score a little bit more per game. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.800 If we can just sustain some drives, score some points, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.360 we might be able to shrink some wins together. Now 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:15.560 we got to figure out how to do it on 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.280 the road. Yeah, I think we're at everybody's at a 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.320 point now where we've got to see it. Now, we 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.640 have to see them play well on the road before 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.040 we say, oh, yeah, they got this one. But but 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.800 I think what Jason Garrett said yesterday shouldn't fall on 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.200 deaf ears. He said this move was for now in 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.680 the future. Yeah, they were gonna need a wide receiver. Right. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.280 That's some good point, right, And where you're going to 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.520 spend your first round pick on a wide receiver, that 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.480 the wide receiver would be there that you made, that 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.320 you wanted, that you wanted, right, or you'd be high 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.560 enough to get who you want. Yeah, and so this 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.600 this is not just about this year. They were gonna 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.560 need this next year and the next year after that. Now, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.640 we'll see if this works out. And you gambled a 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.080 first round pick, but at least what you didn't gamble 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.760 was a five year, fifty million dollars deal under the cap. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.120 How do you think Kansas City feels right now, Sammy Watkins, Yeah, 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.760 twenty six catches and seven games, one touchdown. Feel great 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.040 with their record? Yeah? But how much has he helped 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.440 it's working out? Is it? Yeah? Do you feel good 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.960 about spending what did they spend forty five or fifty 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.119 million dollars on the guy? If you're you have their record, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.680 do you care at this point? I would imagine you 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.760 would if you had. If I think it of games, yeah, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.680 I think that. I think that when you talk about it, though, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.080 if you look at some of these wide receivers have 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.480 been drafted, you know, I think that I think a 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.119 bigger argument would be, do you think Mike Zimmer feels 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.600 good about Treadwell? Do the does Cincinnati that the Brown 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.720 family feel good about Ross? You know, it's hard to draft. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:02.000 I think Josh Josh Dots Josh Dodson was picked about 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.880 the nineteenth pick, I believe for the with the Washington Redskins. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.640 Do you feel good about him? You know? I mean, yeah, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.240 there's there's there's draft picks. You you know, you feel 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.040 like the receiver. I think this is one of those 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.080 moves where you said, yeah, absolutely, you got a young 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.960 guy here, you're gonna see what you got at the 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.879 end of the year or the halfway through the year, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.000 you'renn see what you got here, and then you're gonna 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.400 build on him for next year. You know, I think 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.280 that to me, I would rather. I would rather as 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.200 much as I love to draft, you know, I understand 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.040 why they did this. I really do, because they if 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.720 you watch, they're they're trying to help this offense now 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.399 is what they can what they're trying to do. And 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.040 I don't I don't have a problem with that. I 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.320 really don't. And I say it again, as much as 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:44.919 I love to draft, as much as I would love 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.400 to have a first round pick, you know, I would 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.720 also like the opportunity to try and finish this thing out, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:52.960 and I would like to try and win this division, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:54.439 and I'd like to try and get in the PLAYFFS. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.280 Because you're absolutely right, Rob, this defense is good enough 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.320 to go win a game somewhere. They can they can 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.000 go win a game if they can just get some 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.560 help on the offense. You know, they get you know, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.200 we're asking for the line to protect better, We're asking 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.359 for them the run better. We're asking them, you know. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.680 But the one thing that they really haven't been able 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.720 to do consistently enough is throw the football. And if 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.600 this guy gives you the opportunity to throw the football 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.040