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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome inside the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studio for Talking Cowboys on a bye

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Speaker 1: week Wednesday. It's sort of like a Wednesday. Cowboys will

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Speaker 1: practice here in about an hour. That right, Mick, one

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Speaker 1: hour and thirty. As soon as we finished, we got

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Speaker 1: to walk outside or the inside one of the two. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to were supposed to have one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: chance of rain, and it sounded like when I was

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Speaker 1: I haven't got Bucky's forecast yet, so doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: outdoor practice. I didn't see anything. Yeah, the water buckets,

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Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, I didn't say say any signs that

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Speaker 1: they're going to work outside, all right. Rob Phillips hosting

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Speaker 1: for Bill Jones Today Wednesday, List Jones Day. The way

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Speaker 1: it rolls. He's got TV obligations. He is TV man,

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Speaker 1: you're radio man, and so are you. Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Kent Garrison next door producing as always. Well,

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Speaker 1: not a typical bye week Wednesday, not typical bye week.

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Speaker 1: It's not quiet around here. No, they've got a new

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Speaker 1: wide receiver that should be there here today, was here

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Speaker 1: yesterday if you want to go on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman spoke with Amari Cooper for the first time

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Speaker 1: since arriving in Dallas, and uh, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what we'll what we'll be able to glean from

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Speaker 1: practice this week. Yeah, shorter practices, lighter practice, assuming he's

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Speaker 1: ready to go. I know he was in concussion protocol

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Speaker 1: before where he was traded here or agreed to be

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Speaker 1: traded here. Sure can't trade or hurt player two, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's true. So so he had to pass

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Speaker 1: a physical and all that. He did that yesterday, so

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Speaker 1: he's good to go. Yeah, the trade even have helmets

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Speaker 1: on today. Um, that's a good question. We've seen that

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Speaker 1: in the past where they have not, so yeah, that

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Speaker 1: two with him he's done a thing where he's a

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Speaker 1: lot the backups. It's been a teaching teaching thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's let the young guys, letting the backup guys get opportunities,

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Speaker 1: like the guys you know with like uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Cameron Fleming will get some get some snaps. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: how about Sue a Philo will get some snaps. How

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Speaker 1: about Adam Redman, you know the offense, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: get those backup guys a few more, few more reps.

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Speaker 1: They they don't get as mini during the week, so

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Speaker 1: it's good option. Maybe get some your practice squad guys

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Speaker 1: a look or two, see if they see if they're

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Speaker 1: paying attention to what you're trying to do. I know

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Speaker 1: that's secondary to compare to what's going on in the season,

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Speaker 1: but that's how coaches approach what we're going about to

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Speaker 1: probably see for the next couple of days. Keep the

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Speaker 1: as veteran players you know, off their feet, let them

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Speaker 1: kind of catch their breath, heal up their bodies a

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Speaker 1: little bit more, and then you know, get ready for

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Speaker 1: the second half push. And as Rob you wrote about

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Speaker 1: the injuries those guys, you know, just let him rest

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Speaker 1: right and a healthy team so far. Yeah, a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys banged up, Zack Martin, Jeff Swaim. Bryan said,

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Speaker 1: those guys aren't going to practice. They got nice sprains

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Speaker 1: what Jason said for both guys. Guys, yeah said hopefully

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Speaker 1: not too long for Jeff Swaim. Zach was able to

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Speaker 1: that's that's encouraging. Randy Gregory got a nice scope, by

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Speaker 1: I remember h Jay Novochek had it during the bye week,

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Speaker 1: and by time they played the next game in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he was playing. It's like, seriously, yeah, It's like within

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Speaker 1: two weeks he was back out there. They think he'll

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Speaker 1: be ready for Tennessee. So I had a friend go

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Speaker 1: scouting situation, Yes, it is. It is self scouting. And

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Speaker 1: the way the league now has it set up because

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Speaker 1: there's not really a lot you can get done. The

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Speaker 1: focus this week needs to be on on getting a

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Speaker 1: I mean acclimated, and I mean with meetings, you know, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you and I did a mailbag this morning and it

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Speaker 1: was a really good question by our the gentleman or

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Speaker 1: that wrote in. And he's asking, what can Sanjay Lyle do?

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Speaker 1: You know? We know out I keep saying on Hurns,

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Speaker 1: we know what a Maury Cooper can do as far

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Speaker 1: all that, But how can Sanjay Lyle help him? And

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Speaker 1: you know, the classroom stuff will help, but he's got

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Speaker 1: plan thing when you know, how do you how do

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Speaker 1: when well, when the when the quarterback checks this, this

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Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott decides he turns his body sideways and

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Speaker 1: try and learn when they make adjustments, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of they'll have to do with game planning next week,

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Speaker 1: but this week they can kind of say, Okay, these

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Speaker 1: when we see certain coverages. So pay attention when you're here, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Dak going kill kill kill, yeah, And see if he's

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Speaker 1: terrible sign. That's a terrible sign because again, that could

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Speaker 1: be something that Dak is going to take off a

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Speaker 1: something something different is going to happen, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the most important thing I have no I have

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Speaker 1: no doubt that that Amara Cooper is going to come

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Speaker 1: he said, it's the communication things that he's going to

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Speaker 1: it's been a off or what they're doing is back

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Speaker 1: Dax and you know, heck, they might go to dinner afterwards,

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Speaker 1: And and a lot of this is going to be

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Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott's ability to come up to speed, uh,

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Speaker 1: don't be surprised if some other guys get involved. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of this it's not about the physical work

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Speaker 1: Am I made the right adjustments? So just being in

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Speaker 1: here and go, I know it's going to happen. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: And he's I mean they do have a couple two hour,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, though, our world is thrown upside

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Speaker 1: down when you get a you know, get a Lyle

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Speaker 1: Collins who technique wise, is not as good as he

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Speaker 1: was last year. You get Tyren Smith who's had some

431
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Speaker 1: technique issues as well. You get you know, a rookie

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Speaker 1: that has has played I thought has played well at times.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's one or two times a game where

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Speaker 1: you know he gets beat, but that happens. And then

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Speaker 1: you have a center that's really your backup guy, and

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Speaker 1: he's done a great job. But it's not. It's not

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Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. You know you you were thinking that this

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Speaker 1: line was going to be something you could say. And

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Speaker 1: that's why they I believe they made the decision to

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Speaker 1: play by committee with receiver. Yes, they're thinking, okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: run the ball, We'll spread the ball around and we'll

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Speaker 1: be just fine because we will dominate the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: And they haven't dominated the line of scrimmage yet. And

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Speaker 1: they had Dak and comfortable down in Jacksonville could win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they had a prime example of what it was

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Speaker 1: like with Ezekiel Elliott and that it was like without

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Speaker 1: without exactly exactly, and that was the common denominator in

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Speaker 1: what happened last year. And you went nine and seven,

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Speaker 1: by the way, And now if if if you're not

450
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Speaker 1: being productive with Zeke only every other week, which is

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Speaker 1: what it's been, right, every other week, every other week,

452
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Speaker 1: they can throw the ball. The next week they can't,

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Speaker 1: the next week they can. And one week Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: still the quarterback of the fete, next week he's not.

455
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Speaker 1: And the teeter totter goes back and forth. Now, they

456
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Speaker 1: got to figure out why this happens on the road

457
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Speaker 1: and why it happens at home. It's it's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: And if people would spend a little bit more time

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Speaker 1: kind of analyzing and instead of trying to get the

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Speaker 1: head coach fired, every move they make is about the

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Speaker 1: head coach. You know, I read this morning. Well, now

462
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Speaker 1: the pressure is on because Jason Garrett's got this new

463
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Speaker 1: toy and if this doesn't work, he can't save his job. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think every defensives can say, yeah, if this guy

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Speaker 1: is any good, then he's not going to beat me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you have to evaluate the team at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. I understand that. Let's not evaluate one move. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm three and four. I am willing. I'm

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Speaker 1: more willing to have coach talk on the offseason than

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Speaker 1: any other time. I'm but this is where we're at

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Speaker 1: now with the coaching staff. You got to you gotta

472
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Speaker 1: give him an opportunity to see if they can make

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Speaker 1: this work. And at the end of the day, if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, then the general management will need to

475
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Speaker 1: sit down and say, Okay, this is where we were

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Speaker 1: deficient and if it's not good enough, it's not good enough,

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Speaker 1: and then you need to make changes. But if you

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Speaker 1: if you've helped him, if you've helped him with the

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Speaker 1: player and he's able to succeed, were good for him,

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Speaker 1: you know, good for him. But I'm I'm with Mickey

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Speaker 1: on this though, I'm avoiding the low hanging fruit of

482
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Speaker 1: just go out and fire everybody. But I am never

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Speaker 1: afraid to talk like that in the offseason. If I

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Speaker 1: feel like that, it's necessarily needs to be done. But

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to give these guys this trade and these

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Speaker 1: last you know, last nine games or so to see

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Speaker 1: if they can turn this thing around. You know, the

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Speaker 1: other thing I think needs to be analyzed is they

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Speaker 1: play fifty five minutes on the road against Washington and

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Speaker 1: scored ten points yea, and in five minutes they were

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Speaker 1: six inches away from scoring ten points in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Now what changed? What happened because they had to protect

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Speaker 1: two drives, right, they had to move the ball down

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Speaker 1: field to at least kick a field goal. And on

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Speaker 1: top of that, the Deep Vents needed to get a

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Speaker 1: three and out, which they got. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like you forget all that stuff. I understand the result,

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Speaker 1: I get it, But what they did there, Uh, I

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Speaker 1: was surprised the game was over right, you guys left

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Speaker 1: the press box. It was twenty to ten. We always

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Speaker 1: so did everybody else. Okay, there was nobody. I have

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Speaker 1: to take a TV segment. I understand, I understand that,

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Speaker 1: but then you can't see what happened when you went

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Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, well I got the ALL twenty two

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Speaker 1: and I went back and did that. But you wrote

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying people left, people left the stadium. Game

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Speaker 1: was over, right. Is there a problem offensively? Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: let's let's take a break, Sace. You keep wanting to

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Speaker 1: What's up? Ray? Hey? Good morning everyone morning. This this

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Speaker 1: not just get to the playoffs, but make some noise

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So we're still in this division. I

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Speaker 1: was a little torn. The pick is high. Now if

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Speaker 1: it's an epic fail if we don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know advanced, But what's a bigger epic failed

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Speaker 1: if you you go the year and a half and

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Speaker 1: you had to pay Da Press Scott one hundred and

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Speaker 1: over with. Then then there's no more. Oops, my bad,

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Speaker 1: my bad. The owner is saying, oops, my bad for

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Speaker 1: But so it's not just on Amari Cooper. Are we

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Speaker 1: of the previously, But it's on that too. It's who's

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Speaker 1: gonna block on here? Yeah? I mean, because the Marie

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Speaker 1: Cooper won't matter if your quarterbacks sitting on his ass.

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Speaker 1: I wrote that yesterday. It's not you don't get the

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Speaker 1: receiver of this caliber and say everything's great as well. No, no,

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Speaker 1: but you got to get to the playoffs and maybe advanced.

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Speaker 1: I applaud him for saying, oops, my bad, because he

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Speaker 1: can't because you got to pay DAK one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. You're stuck. It's over with. There's no

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Speaker 1: more oops my bad. So and you gotta pay. And

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Speaker 1: you're coming at the cross roads here. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to make a decision on DAK. Pay him or as

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Speaker 1: a cooper just the rental player, or you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to back up the brings trucks on him. Then you

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Speaker 1: got then you got the Marcus Lawrence and Byron Jones,

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Speaker 1: bless his heart, nobody's talking about his play. I hate

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Speaker 1: to see him lee because finally somebody in that coaches

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Speaker 1: the corner and when you left them alone, now you

637
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: see what he can do. So I gotta let this

638
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: thing play out. But yeah, this is we're still in

639
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: this division. I applaud him for saying, us, my bad.

640
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: Let me try to get to the playoffs and make

641
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: some noise, Okay, So I'm gonna let you it's not

642
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: And if we don't, then you gotta look at the draft.

643
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: If we don't make the playoffs. It's not just about

644
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. If we don't make the playoffs, do

645
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: we pass up on a top defensive player or whatever.

646
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: So you just gotta let this same play and hope

647
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs and can make some noise,

648
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: because look, you gotta play. You gotta play at Luna,

649
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: you gotta play the Saints, you gotta play these other teams.

650
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: You still got two games with the Eagle. You gotta

651
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: score some points in here. I applaud him for trying.

652
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I just hope it works out. Ye, thank you. That's

653
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: a great point. You know, you look at the teams

654
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: you're about to play, and you know you got it.

655
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: You can't, yeah, be screwing around with fifteen sixteen seventeen

656
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: points a game, no defensively if you can hold them

657
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: in check. And we've seen some people hold, you know,

658
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: we've seen people hold. Look what the Giants did the

659
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: other night to to Atlanta. You know, Atlanta is you

660
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: know a team that you worry about scoring a bunch

661
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: of points. You know, the Saints can score some points,

662
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: but both those teams are pretty deficient on defense. You know,

663
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: you find a way to hold them in check. And

664
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: now you get you know, twenty four, twenty eight points

665
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: in the game. You got a chance to win a game. Now, hell,

666
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: you might win a game with you know, with twenty

667
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: points if you just kit to the twenty. You know,

668
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because the defense is holding teams

669
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: under twenty pretty regularly. Yeah, under ten in some cases. Yeah,

670
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: what you got over there, Mick. I was just looking

671
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: at the scores sixteen, thirteen, twenty four, and I think

672
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: one of those touchdowns or field goals was a turnover

673
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: short field nineteen seven and twenty but only thirteen on

674
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: the defense. Yeah, so if you know, other than the

675
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Seattle given up twenty four, they're in the teams. Yeah,

676
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: this this thing is not gonna be bad. It's gonna

677
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: be You need the defense in Christi Shard and those

678
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: guys and Rod Marini to keep playing, well, keep playing.

679
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: If I'm a defensive player, I see hope. Now, Okay,

680
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna maybe we're gonna get a guy in here

681
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: that can make some plays, They can keep some drives

682
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: going to can score some points. You know, That's what

683
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: this is. I the only experience I've ever had so

684
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: and this and This happened a long time ago, so

685
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: pardon me for this, but when we won the Super

686
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Bowl in Green Bay and we didn't trade a first

687
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: round pick, but we got Andre Riisen, we got Andre

688
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Riisen on our team for eight games, and Andre Riisen

689
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: helped us win a super Bowl. We were eight no

690
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: in games he played because he gave us some juice.

691
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: He gave us something we didn't have. He gave us

692
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: a big time player on the outside. But again, it's

693
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: not given up a first round pick, but but it's

694
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: adding somebody at mid season that has the capability and

695
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: the playmaking ability to help you win games, just kind

696
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: of shake things up to get the offindence gone. If

697
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm if I'm that locker room, I'm

698
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: happy about this. I'm happy that that ownership in the

699
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: front office didn't sit on their hands and not try anything.

700
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: You know, if they would have sat there and done

701
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: nothing and said, Okay, we're just gonna take the pick.

702
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, we're just gonna finish you know, six and

703
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: ten and not worry about this, then then I would

704
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: have felt worse. But you know, they're saying, hey, we

705
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: have a chance. If we could just pull some things together.

706
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, defensively we've been great. Offensively, we've got to

707
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: score more points. We've got to have more drive sustained.

708
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: We've got to we've got to help our quarterback. We've

709
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: got to help our running game. You know, this guy,

710
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be asking a lot for him

711
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: to come in and save this offense, but it's really

712
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: the best I can do right now. I'm trying, right

713
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: And we might talk about this on the Draft Show

714
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow on thirty PM by the way, for those who

715
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: want to tune into that for bye week special. Yeah,

716
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: but about how much you value what you know about

717
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: a player rather than what you are trying to project

718
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: a player can be in the first round. Yeah, they

719
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: value what they know Amari Cooper is now what they've seen,

720
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: rather than what the guy next year potentially could be

721
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: in the first round, whoever they pick. Yeah, that's there's

722
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: no question about that. I mean I've watched already, you know,

723
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I just kind of dabbled in and happened to watch

724
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: like three receivers watch of kids from Arizona State and

725
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: the two kids from Ole Miss And they're supposed to

726
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: be top receivers. I don't see that right now, I

727
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: really don't. I mean, I'm looking at those guys and

728
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: it's not And I did this before even even knew

729
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: what a Maria Cooper was, even the trade was going

730
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: to be. But you know, Dane and I sat down

731
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: and said, hey, you want to watch the tape because

732
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: I sat down with him and watched a few games

733
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: and said, let's watch this guy from Arizona State. Let's

734
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: watch this guy from these two guys ole miss And

735
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, one guy can't run the Arizona State Guide,

736
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: and look he can run very well. To me, he

737
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: look like we're really a dynamic player out there. So

738
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking, okay, if those are the top guys,

739
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: if Dane's having me look at some of the top

740
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: guys already, and I'm not overly shot in the rear.

741
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: And again, this is not this is pre Amari Cooper.

742
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: This is just getting ready for a draft show tomorrow.

743
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know, I don't if you know,

744
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to get ready now. But but I

745
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: know people will argue, they'll say, well, broad us, what

746
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: if they're not going to take somebody in the first

747
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: what they weren't going to take a receiver in the

748
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: first round. What they wanted to take another. Now, this

749
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: is where this is where Nebbi yesterday made a point,

750
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: and this is where Nebbi might be right. What if

751
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: you evaluate this quarterback and you want to use a

752
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: first round pick on a quarterback that right there, and

753
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: that's a fair point that Nebbi makes. What if you

754
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: evaluate these last few games, this last half of the season,

755
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: and you say, we just can't win with Dak Prescott

756
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: consistently enough. But I don't Dave said this on our

757
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: emergency pod a couple of days ago. I don't think they.

758
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I think they're all in on Dak Prescot at least

759
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is everything. But I think Debbie brought up

760
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: a really good it's it's it's a it's a fair point.

761
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: It's a fair point. But but everything Jerry said, and

762
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I know that, you know when he's asked point blank

763
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: on a radio segment, what's he wants to help Dak

764
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Prescott succeed? But they are everything I've seen. They are

765
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: all in on trying to help him. And yes, they

766
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: didn't go get they parted with Dez. They didn't go

767
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: get an elite receiver in the off season, but they

768
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: did spend a second round draft pick on a left

769
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: guard who they thought would make remake the offensive line

770
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: into another dominant force again, and that just hasn't worked

771
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: out for a lot of different reasons so far. But

772
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: they've tried to give him help, and I think they've

773
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: recognized they haven't give him enough help. But I don't know, Mickey,

774
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: if you feel the same way. But I think the

775
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: front office at this point, for everything Jerry said, they're

776
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: in on Dak Prescott as a starter for the future

777
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: and they're not looking at quarterback right now. I just

778
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: don't think everybody needs to get hung up on the

779
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: fact that he's got to get paid after this season.

780
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: You got another season yet a contract. Yeah, So I

781
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: agree everybody just settled down about the money part of it. Yeah,

782
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: you can buy time and if you're not ready to

783
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: do it, then you know, well you enfranchise him after

784
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: that if you want. And there's the other side of

785
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: it that you've brought up, Brian, that I don't think

786
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: they'll want to do that. But if they're keeping their

787
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: eyes open on evaluating him, this helps speed up the evaluation,

788
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: gives him a chance if he if he can't have

789
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: success with a guy that I believe, I believe and

790
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: I believe they believe. By the way they gave up

791
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: a first round pick, this guy is a top flight

792
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: one receiver. You know, this is not off somebody's garbage heap.

793
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: This guy is a legitimate football player, a legitimate receiver.

794
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: They thought that they gave up the one. So if

795
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: that cannot have success with a number one wide receiver,

796
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: let's make the evaluation. But Micky's right, you got him

797
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: for a whole other year. You know, this could be

798
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: a situation where they look at they say, Okay, we

799
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: got our wide receiver. You see you see some positive

800
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: things from Amari Cooper. You're like, Okay, he's twenty four

801
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: years old going forward, that's great. This is something we

802
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: could say. Now we could pair him with Michael Gallup

803
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and see what else we can do. Okay, what do

804
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: we need now, Well, let's go look at one of

805
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: these tight ends. Let's you know, this is where the

806
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: draft is gonna This is where the draft is gonna go.

807
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Last year, I mean they hey, we knew very early,

808
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: at least I knew very early that they were looking

809
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: at Layton Vanderesh. You know, I mean you look at

810
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: all the things that were going on with Sean Lee.

811
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: They were not going to let that hold them hostage anymore,

812
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and that told them not to be a great pick

813
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: for now. So it's been a great absolutely. So you

814
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: have to trust that this team has the understanding of

815
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: like if they target a guy or two to go

816
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: after that, that's a that's a good thing. Now maybe

817
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: we'll find out that with him on the field, a

818
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: Mauri Cooper, that'll help the offensive line. Maybe Dack's not

819
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: holding the ball, Maybe somebody's getting open Quicker. Uh, maybe

820
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: it's a receiver you trust a little bit more other

821
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: than Cole Beasley to throw the ball to. Got to Quicker,

822
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: got to. But but the protection has to be better.

823
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: And that's why I said earlier. You know, Okay, they're

824
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: they're putting up fifteen seventeen points a game. It's not enough.

825
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: They're capable of more. We saw it against Jacksonville and

826
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: there were opportunities late in that Houston game. They felt

827
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: like they were close because they just missed on some

828
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: chances that down the field that would have won the

829
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: game probably and that was due in large parts of protection.

830
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: So it's not just the receivers. But they took an

831
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: objective view of it and said, we've got Garrett said

832
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: it yesterday, firepower. This guy gives us firepower on the outside.

833
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he gives an acknowledgement. He gives him a

834
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: guy that can get down the field along with Gallup

835
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and along with Cole Beasley. You know when you're having

836
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: to wait for Alan Hearns to run routes. And again,

837
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: this is not Alan Hearns's fault, it's just the way

838
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns is as a player. He doesn't have the speed.

839
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: But you got a guy at Amari Cooper that could separate,

840
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: go down the field and make plays, make contested plays.

841
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: That's what you got to have for this office. Maybe

842
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: now Dak Prescott doesn't have to hold the ball to

843
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: wait for somebody to get open, right, you know, maybe

844
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: now he could throw the ball and know that that

845
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: guy is gonna go get it and go get open. Okay,

846
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: let's take our final break. Come back, we've got another

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Speaker 1: last segment. Who we got next? Yeah, we got Greg

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Speaker 1: in Ohio? Go ahead, Greg, Hey, guys making you're the

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Speaker 1: man um Absolutely, I love I love this trade. Uh,

917
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, we shirt up this defense and basically, you know,

918
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: what are we going to spend the first round draft

919
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: pick on anyway? And we need really you know, but

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00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: I would be really surprised if this team loses more

921
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: than one game the rest of the six. Wow, not

922
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Speaker 1: does Bryant m They're gonna have They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: respect that shot. Okay, I'm gonna put nine in the box.

925
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised of six ten average over one

926
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards a game. That's how confident. Thanks

927
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: going well in Ohio, Greg, not this one? Well we

928
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: got Michigan. Yeah, there you go. All right, there you go.

929
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Speaker 1: That can make up for a lot of things that

930
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931
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Speaker 1: proud of Missouri going into Purdue and winning on a

933
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: last second field game. Yeah. Man, how about those boiler Makers?

934
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: Boilers so eight and one down the stretch. Huh, I'm

935
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: not asking for that. I'm asking for you know, what

936
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: are nine games left? I'm asking to put together four

937
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: or five I'm asking I'm asking for three or four

938
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: wins in a row. Just give me something where I

939
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: could build a little momentum, get me to those thanks

940
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some tough's ahead. You know that game

941
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: against New Orleans is not going to be easy. But

942
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen on that you know,

943
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: after the week after Thanksgiving, you don't know what you know.

944
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: You don't know what shape their team is going to

945
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: be in or your team, but you know you have

946
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity again the games at home. We don't have

947
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: to go down there to the Mercedes say he's Ben's

948
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: doomed to go play football. They have shown promise on offense, protection, yeah, receiving, yeah,

949
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: especially running, And that's one thing I don't I think

950
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Speaker 1: Scotten lost a little bit now as much as they

951
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: struggled offensively, every other week, they entered the Washington game

952
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: with the second best running game in the NFL. Right,

953
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: so they have some things they can hang their hats on.

954
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: Now you've got a guy who can make some plays

955
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Speaker 1: on the album. If this guy, if this guy shows

956
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Speaker 1: what he has been able to show in the past,

957
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: he will clearly help this football team. There's no there's

958
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: no question in my mind that he will help this

959
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: football team. He is different than anything they have and

960
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: that and you know they the front office has told you, hey,

961
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: we we mess up this receiver by committee. Bit, we're

962
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Speaker 1: gonna go out and get a guy who can generally

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Speaker 1: go and make plays. And so to me, I'm all

964
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: for that. The price was steep, There's no question the

965
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Speaker 1: price was steep. But also though you've got you're looking

966
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Speaker 1: at this and saying, you know what, we're not going

967
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: to waste like what you say, right, We're not going

968
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: to waste a great opportunity for our defense. We're not

969
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: going to waste an evaluation on the quarterback, and we're

970
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: not going to waste an opportunity to try and help

971
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: our running back too, and waste an opportunity to get

972
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: a unique player in a unique situation. This doesn't usually

973
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: happen where a guy's just available like this. I mean

974
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: this is they view him as a Pro Bowl caliber

975
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 1: wide receiver, like you said, for a year and a half.

976
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: It's a it's a manageable contract situation. It's unique that

977
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: John Gruden has decided to turn over his entire roster.

978
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: That's that's what John wants to do. That doesn't always happen. Nope,

979
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: that this is an opportunity that they felt like they

980
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: had to jump at high price. We'll see if it

981
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: pays off. You mentioned the running game. Yeah, they were second,

982
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: they're now third after only gaining seventy four yards against

983
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: the Redskins. And Zeke, after gaining only thirty four yards,

984
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: is still the second leading rusher in the National Football

985
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: League behind Todd Gurley, and he's only like sixty yards behind.

986
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: So that tells you how good this running game has

987
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: been compared to what the rest of the league is doing.

988
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Even though they had a bad game, they're still at

989
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: the top. So I just want to point out it's

990
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: not all bad, That's what I'm saying. So they are

991
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: running the ball decently. That Dack's running the ball decently,

992
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: And if you get somebody to take some pressure off

993
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: the offensive line that they have to. They can't keep

994
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: playing eight men in the box. They can't keep blitzing.

995
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the problems. Teams have

996
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: no problem blitzing this team. They aren't worried about it.

997
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: And so when we're not going to get the ball

998
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: out before they right before they get there, and and

999
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: and then when they play single safety high, it's like, Okay,

1000
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: now you see Michael Gallup do a double move on

1001
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: the cornerback and burn his butt. Yeah. Uh, and then

1002
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: you give them some thoughts. So now with Cooper, that's

1003
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: what's got to happen. I don't even care if they

1004
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: complete the ball to him. Just show that you're willing

1005
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, and they're gonna have to cover it, yeah,

1006
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: because it's it's like it's like Jimmy Johnson would say

1007
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: with Alexander Wright, you know, he was fast, he didn't

1008
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: know how to play wide receiver and he didn't catch

1009
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: the ball right, but he said, you know what, as

1010
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: fast as he is, they have to worry about what

1011
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: if he does yea, and they got to cover them.

1012
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: So uh. I think this will help the running game

1013
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: and I'll help the offensive line if indeed he still

1014
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: has that speed. If it doesn't, then you did. Then

1015
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: there are other issues. Sure, and then and that's again,

1016
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Speaker 1: that's offseason talk. That's that's that's staff, that's players, that's

1017
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: everything about it. That's where then now you say, Okay,

1018
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: this is what we tried to do. It didn't work,

1019
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: and we need to take a different approach. Okay, can't

1020
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: back to the phone lines. So who we got? We

1021
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: got Travis and san Antonio. What's up, Travis? How are

1022
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: we doing good? What's up? I just wanted to call

1023
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: and ask you guys. Watching the Redskins game, Um, I know,

1024
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: you know Dak was on his butt a lot, so

1025
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to make a lot of plays. And I

1026
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: do applaud them for being aggressive and going out there

1027
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: and getting someone at least change it up. It wasn't

1028
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: a change that I would have done earlier, but it's

1029
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: at least a change, and it's you know, they're they're trying,

1030
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: like you guys said, Yeah, my question is I guess

1031
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, watching that Redskins game, you guys just kind

1032
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: of talked about it. There was a lot of pressure

1033
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: and they were worried about getting the ball out before

1034
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: they got pressure on Dak. I think something that they

1035
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: miss with Witten. I remember back in the day. You know,

1036
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: if they were getting pressure like that, they're hot. There's

1037
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: always be a hot he'd be, you know, he he'd

1038
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: identify someone coming in and he'd step out. It'd be

1039
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: a three yard pass. And you know, if you get

1040
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: four or five yards against the blitz, that's great. Um.

1041
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: So I think they missed that. And then the other

1042
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: thing is Brian yesterday, you're talking about Derek carr Um.

1043
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: I've watched Derek car too, and I know that he

1044
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: hasn't been as good as he was the path, that's true.

1045
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: But I do worry about I do worry about the

1046
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: fact that you kind of said the same things about

1047
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Dak not you know, a few weeks ago, about sometimes

1048
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: even when he sees somebody open, he's not letting it rit. Yeah,

1049
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: So I worry about that transitioning over to Cooper, whereas

1050
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: he's suing to get open whole bunch and he's not

1051
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: going to throw it even if he gets protection or

1052
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: um what's going to happen. So I just wanted you

1053
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Speaker 1: guys talk about that and maybe the hot stuff and

1054
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: have a good day, Thank you, Thanks Ravis. Usually it's

1055
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: w Witne is detached. Remember when he was detached from

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Speaker 1: the line that you get the hot because you get

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: his guy on the blitz and that's where he would

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00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: turn five field, clap his hands and you know, look

1059
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Speaker 1: for the ball. You know. So yeah, that but they

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00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: haven't been getting it hasn't been so much the slot

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00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: blitz stuff. It's been the inside stuff that Mickey's been

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00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: talking about. They've had a lot of problems with the

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00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: twist stuff up front too. That's been something that's given

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Speaker 1: him an issue. I think that the thing with you know,

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Speaker 1: the evaluation with Dak and not pulling the trigger, I

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00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: think that is fair. I think that's fair to say.

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00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: And if we do get into these games and Amori

1068
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: Cooper is getting open and he's not getting the ball, well,

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00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: then now it goes back to the evaluation of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know it, but it's it's it's something that is

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00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: that you can work with and and and try and develop.

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: Or is this like Troy Aitman would say, you know,

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00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: armtown and anticipation is something you're born with, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's made some throws that I felt

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00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: like the throw to Colby's And if you watch on

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00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com, Kidd, did we put the film

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00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: stuff that I did yesterday? Yes, we did. Okay, check

1078
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: that out because on the past I broke down to Beasley.

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00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: He threw that ball for Beasley broke and I talked

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: about that. So if you go on Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: com and watched the film room, you know from the

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00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors film room there, if you watch

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: the play, he closed the ball clearly before Beasley gets

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00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: out of his break. Which one the third down, that

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: the one that was third and ten that he caught

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00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: for eighteen yards. I believe it was okay. Yeah, he

1087
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: had Preston Smith right in his face and he had

1088
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: no choice but to try and throw the ball to

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00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: where he was. He anticipated Cole Beasley getting to that

1090
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: spot and threw the ball and it worked out great

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00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: for him. So there's times where you've seen him throw

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00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: and with anticipation, and then there's other times where he hasn't.

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: And so that's where I think a lot of it

1094
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: had to do with the sack and the fumble was

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00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: if they had somehow managed to pick up if they

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00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: managed to pick up the curny or excuse me, Karagan's rush,

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00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: if they picked up Karagan's rushin Dak is able to

1098
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: make that throw. But then he saw the white flat

1099
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: and it talked. It took his eyes down and then

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00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: he had to move. But it is there's there's anticipation.

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00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Things he has troubles with. But he also again it's

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Speaker 1: it's funny. You'll see him watch that play. He throws

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00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: it with some anticipation to Beasley, don't you know, And

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: I stop it for you and show you when the

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00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: ball's out and where Beasley is in his route to

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Speaker 1: make that to make that adjustment, saying the Carragan thing,

1107
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: tight end was blocked. Tight end blocked him. Yeah, and

1108
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: then when he released, and so everybody else is engaged

1109
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: with their blocking guys, and he loops all the way

1110
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: from the far the cowboys far right, and he comes

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00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: around all the way down the middle. Yeah, actually from

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Speaker 1: the left, Mickey, he was left. He was a left

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00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: outside and came inside and know he was to the

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: cowboys right, his cowboys right. He's about to say, Washington

1115
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: left the Cowboys right. And he comes all the way

1116
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: and he goes around three offensive linemen who are engaged

1117
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: and comes down and it was like, here's the tunnel

1118
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: and here comes the locomotive. Where do I go? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know I heard all these people talking about,

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Speaker 1: well they had so and so was wide open on

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Speaker 1: the outside. Well yeah, well Karagan was wide open coming

1122
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: up the middle and he's standing in the end zone

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00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: and that's when he realized, oh, I'm in the end zone.

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: I gotta get out. He got and he tried to

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Speaker 1: spin out, and unfortunately Karagan beat him to knock the

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Speaker 1: ball out. Reminded me of that ninety two game all

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Speaker 1: that they showed that on TV. I saw that. Yeah,

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00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: same thing, same score, by the way, twenty to seventeen

1129
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Speaker 1: because of that same play. Just another odd entry in

1130
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: that Redskin rivals. Weird stuff happens, Yeah, absolutely, And then

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Speaker 1: you hit the goalposts after the make believe call on

1132
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: these snap infraction, Yeah, snap in fraction. I think that

1133
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: was just a coaching move more than anything. Whether he

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00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: infracted it or not, he made the referee believe he

1135
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: was doing it, and hey, my might as well mention this.

1136
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: It could pay off the end of the game, and

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Speaker 1: it surely it did. When they jumped off and the

1138
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: coach Skins jumped and then Redskins coaches as coaching. So

1139
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: you're saying they jumped off sides on purpose. Yes, he

1140
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: probably go look, he alerted the referee. Hey, he's moving

1141
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: the ball. Go look at us, Go look at it

1142
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: because the guy that jumped off side, he jumped because

1143
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: his partner next to him flinched. Yeah, all right, we'll

1144
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: go look at it, but we gotta go to practice first.

1145
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Speaker 1: It's over. Shows over. We got ten seconds right now. Yeah,

1146
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: kids played it right now. We'll get a review on

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Speaker 1: it after the show ends. Thank you guys for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your calls and your input on the Murray

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Speaker 1: Cooper trade. Thanks to Brian Mickey Kemp producing Bill, We'll

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