1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Look how fucking skinny you are. This is what I 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: hate about you. I love you, but I hate how 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: you can diet for ten days and look this skinny. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I also quit smoking weed and drinking booze too, So 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: I know you threw a lot of you threw a 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of you threw a lot at it. But dude, 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: you look look great. Yeah, you look good. Yeah, this 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. Man. I had no idea 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: that I would get this much love for being in 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the Powerpuff Girls. Real man, everybody's you got so much chatter. 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: People are so happy for you. I don't know anything 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: about the Poweruff Girls. I know it's very popular, but 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I was I missed it, so tell us about it. 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: So the Powerpuff Girls are there are three superhero little girls, 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: uh that were created by Professor Utonium and uh, you 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: know in the cartoon. I'm gonna be honest with you. 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I've seen the cartoon a few times and I don't know. Yeah, 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh so my research, my research is beginning 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: with watching the cartoon like I was watching it with 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: because Rocco was a huge fan of the Powerpuff the 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: remake of the Powerpuff Girls, like they they did one 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: when Joel was a baby. I guess it's true. And 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: then they just remade the Powerpuff Girls also, so Rocco 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: was a big fan of Teen Titans Go and Powerpuff Girls. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Was it always aimed at little kids or was it 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: a grown up things? Well, um, it's like if you've 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: ever watched Teen Titans Go, it's aimed for or SpongeBob, 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: it's aimed at kids. But there are some jokes in there. 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: There are a lot of jokes in every episode that 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: parents will laugh at while watching with their kids. Right. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, I'm really excited that people 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: enjoyed the fact that I'm gonna be in this. I'm 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm so geeked about it, you know, I'm really you know, 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: I've I've tried to stay off of you know, the 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: message boards and stuff like that, where you know, some 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: of the hate can dwell, uh, why would you go 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: do that? Don't do that? Yeah, I refuse to do it. 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: I refuse used to let the haters bring me down. 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: But I imagine there are some people that aren't excited 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: about me playing Professor Drake Uttonium. And that's cool. You 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: could eat a dick, are you? Are you in rehearsals 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: at this point or what's happening. Yeah, so we're doing 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of rehearsals. We're doing camera tests and wardrobe fittings. 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: It's you and you start tomorrow. No more rehearsal, Tomorrow, 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: more camera shoots, photo shoots, and we don't start shooting 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: actually until well, I can't tell you, but we start 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: shooting soon. Okay, good Well, dude, I'm so happy for you, 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and I as someone who loves you, I was so 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: happy about all the love you were getting on the interweb. 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: I saw you were getting lots of adoration. I love that. 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: I love that, dude. How's work going, man? I shot 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: three days of Cheaper by the Dozen and it's the 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: dreamiest job ever. I love Gab Union. She has our 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: exact sense of humor. She should come on the podcast 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: MO day. She's fucking hilarious and cool and m and 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: the kids couldn't be sweeter. I mean, knock wood, it's 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: too good to be true. I love my director. I 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: love you. Know the hours. Because of the children, you 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: can only do ten hour days, so that's kind of dreaming. 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: You have like a normal life. And I don't know, man, 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: it's just so fun. I think the script Kenny Barris 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: wrote such a funny script. I you know, sometimes you 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: start a project and go, okay, well, we'll make the 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: script better as we go, and this is just really great. 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: I just it's just going to be such a perfect 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: family movie. And but hey, you know, and as well 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: as having Kenya's signature discussions of race done in such 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: an elegant way, because of course, if you're going to 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: have a you know, a biracial family, you can't deny 70 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the things that will come up, and he doesn't, and 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: so I'm just really stoked to be a part of it. 72 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm really really happy. By the way. By the way, 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: we're recording this on Sunday, but this airs on Tuesday. 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: So guess what. It's my birthday. Yeah, birthday too, Happy 75 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: birthday to ye, Happy birthday, Happy birthday to yeah. Right, 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: come on, sunset. I feel really good cowting today. I'm 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: very happy. It's my birthday. I feel really good. I'm 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: on this awesome health kick, which is really um I 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: must say, those of you listening who know when you 80 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: go on a health kick, uh, obviously your body gets 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: in shape. But I just feel a better in my 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: mind and brain and just happier overall. This year kick 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: so many of our asses and as we come out 84 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: of it a little bit. I I'm so excited that, 85 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: you know, I used the excuse of the movie to 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: get in shape. I jokingly said, I want to look too. 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, manatures holy shit, Zach, Well, 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: don't don't buil up too much. You're pretty close to 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Bradfit fight Club. Don't think I'm chucking Zach. Throw up 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: the pictures so that people could see it. I'm not lying. 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Where's the lie? But it's not ready for a reveal yet. 92 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: But I do have to say turning forty six, when 93 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: I and I had a couple of people over, including 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Casey yesterday for just to toast me, well, actually my 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: girlfriend surprised me, but um yeah, it was nice to 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: hear a handful of people being like, oh shit, and 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I ye, dude, you don't even have love handles anymore. Man, 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: But the fuck is going over well, I've never done 99 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: you know. Listen, I can give you. I can give 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: everyone the tricks. The tricks are just diet and fucking 101 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: giving up booze. Yeah, are you exercise? Is this the 102 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: best shape? You've ever been in your life. Yeah, yeah, 103 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: and it's and it took seven weeks, by the way, 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: and I'm still going like it's like you know, it's 105 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: like anything, It's a hobby that if you get into, 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: if you find it. Here's my trick that I've done 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: for those of you listening who are like, are dreading 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: getting in any kind of shape? I just said, what 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: if I try and find a way to make it 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: fun this time? Building around things I like doing. Okay, 111 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: I like, well, I like spinning, Like you know, spinning 112 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: is that, you know, if you can't afford peloton, bike, 113 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, get on a bicycle or or find something 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: that or in Donald's case, used to play basketball, you know, 115 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: find it. I love when I can play tennis, find 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: something that's fun to do, and then build around that. 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: So I genuinely enjoy peloton. I think it's fun. I 118 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: come off feeling high. I So I just made that 119 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: a regular part of my and and then I start 120 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: researching healthy foods that that I think taste good. So 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: you can find a protein shake that taste awesome. It's 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: the best thing I eat all day. I look forward 123 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: to it, and guess what it's amazing for you. So 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, have you cut a bunch of h 125 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: like foods that you were eating before out of your diet, 126 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: like you talked about how you're no longer eating like 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: red meat. Well, here's the thing. This is gonna branch. 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: This is gonna ranch off into hold of the thing. 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: And I promised to do the short version because we 130 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: got your mom coming on and my mom's on this piece, 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: so wait, let me hear it before we get well. 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I really am thinking about seriously changing my diet because 133 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: of the documentary I watched, C Spiracy, which I recommended 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: last time, which I really encourage you to watch. I'm 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: not telling you to change your diet at all, listener, 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: but I do think it's important to learn about the 137 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: food industry. And I'm embarrassed to admit that I made 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: it forty six years knowing nothing about how our food 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: is made. And it was a combination of three documentaries, 140 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Game Changers, C Spiracy, and Eating Animals, which I just 141 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: watched last night, which now im Portman narrates because she's 142 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: very into health. And I just didn't know about factory farming. 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't like everyone you see the 144 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: pictures of the farmers in the grocery store and you go, 145 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: that's where our food and livestock comes from. And I 146 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: was just in denial about it. And the fishing, Oh, 147 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I'll be Pescuterian fish are great. Everything is so healthy. 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: And then you can watch three documentaries in six hours 149 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and go, holy shit. I didn't know any of that. 150 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: And so it's inspired me, especially being on a health kick, 151 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: to be like, well, I'm changing, We're coming out of 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: this pandemic, We're coming out of this insane year long hibernation. 153 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: Why not try some new ways of being? And That's 154 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: what I'm taking on. And I will say, even though 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: this is very hard for a lot of people, and 156 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: I get it. Um the one of the most powerful 157 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: things I've done is to take this alcohol break. Um It. 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: It increases my mood over time, even because I think 159 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: of like, alcohol is a depressant, right, So if you 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: drink an a lot of alcohol regularly every day, every 161 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: other day, whatever you do, I feel like you are 162 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: think of it like, and take the stead of people 163 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: taking antipressant. You're taking a depressant regularly, and it's sort 164 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: of putting a cloud a little bit of a cloud 165 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: over your life, right, But let me just finish the point, 166 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: And the point is that you might stop for a 167 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: week and go, Okay, I did it. I mean in 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: a week, but you're not really seeing the effects because 169 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: just like if you're taking it, if you start taking 170 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: any presson, it's going to take about a month for 171 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: you to feel the effects. If you stop taking a depressant, 172 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I find that a month in six weeks and seven 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: weeks and you really start to go, wow, I'm genuinely 174 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: overall in a better mood right on. So that's my speech, 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: that's my soapbox. Yeah, it's all good man. You know, 176 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: I'm on the same kick right now. And you know, 177 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: power I'm using Powerpuff as a jump off for it. 178 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: But I like the way I feel right now. Like 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: I was smoking way too much weed, like way too 180 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: much weed, so much weed that I had really bad 181 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: withdrawals from it. And you know, people act like that 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, but it really does. And my wife went 183 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole and found all of these natural 184 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: remedies to combat my withdrawals. So within three days I 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: was good to go, oh, what are those natural remedies? 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: If you like, you want to put potassium back into 187 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: your system because nights you sweat like a banshee, you 188 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Drink a lot of water, you 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: want to hydrate. Yeah, I see, you got that that 190 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: thing I have with all the inspirational words. This is 191 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: my second day doing it. I'm already at I'm al 192 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: mars done with this boy. By nine o'clock tonight, this 193 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: shit is gone. I know. When you get one of 194 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: those if you guys were talking about those like two 195 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: liter things you can get on the internet, they have 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: like drink it by this time, you know, they have 197 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the times and then it says like you got this, 198 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: keep going, you know, and it's it's so silly because 199 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: it's like a kid. It's like doing it for a kid. 200 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: But it makes it a bit of a game, like 201 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: can I get there by five? Can I get there 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: by six? You know? Oh? You know what I do. 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: This is the easiest way to do it. So I 204 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and I drink to seven, right, 205 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: that's the first thing. Now, if I wake up after seven, 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: I'll drink to nine, right, And so at nine o'clock 207 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: I'll drink again, and I'll drink all the way down 208 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: to eleven, and then at eleven o'clock I'll drink again, 209 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and I'll drink all the way down to one. So 210 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: by the time I get to seven pm at night, 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm finished with the bottle before nine o'clock. That's good. 212 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Then you can pee it all out. So you have 213 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: to get up. So I don't have to get up 214 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: because you have to. You do have to get used to. 215 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: You do have to get used to having a new 216 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: relationship with urinating because it's kind of always on your mind. 217 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: But it's a small price to pay. Yes, But you 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: know what, My goal now is to make it to 219 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: the bathroom and stay asleep and still be able to 220 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: pee in the toilet without getting it all over the bathroom. 221 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I've succeeded a couple of times. There have been times 222 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: where I woke up in the morning to go to 223 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: the bathroom. I was like, God, damn, I just missed everything. Idiot. Hey, um, 224 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: do you did you see the new Black Widow trailer 225 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: or any of you? Oh it looks amazing. Oh hell yes, 226 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I watched it like four times. But you guys don't 227 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: worry about it, do you guys don't worry about it 228 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: because you're gonna go see in the height. Oh my god, 229 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: I think I really got to say. I know I'm biased, 230 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: but I thought that trailer was fucking awesome. It looks amazing. 231 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? With that moment where she's free 232 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: falling out of the plane. Yes, yeah, and she I 233 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: like how she's just she's just holding the parachute like 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: with with with her hand like I know I'm gonna 235 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: need this. I'm not gonna put it on. I know 236 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need it later, but so fly. So yeah, 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: it looks Let's we should probably get my mom and 238 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: let's we do work small before we do that. DJ 239 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Joel Monique, What is good with y'all this whole week? Listen? 240 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Since I to talk to your mom, I want to 241 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: get all the good backstories. I want to know what 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: you were like as a kid. I want to know 243 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: about her career. Is it's incredible? Ye, her career is 244 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: is what's really exciting? All right, let's count in and 245 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: bring her in, all right? Stories about show we made 246 00:12:51,240 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: nurses said he that stories? So around you here, Yeah, 247 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: around here, ladies and gentlemen, give it up for my mom. 248 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: The one and only Shirley where is she? Yeah, let 249 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: let's put my video on. Thank you? Yeah, heym Shirley Fazon. 250 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Hey are your Mamma? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. 251 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: I spoke to you yesterday. But still, hey, hey, that's 252 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: that picture behind you? Is that me in junior high school? 253 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: I think so right? There's way too much junior high school, 254 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: junior high school? There? Yeah, yeah, Shirley. Hey is Zach grasp? 255 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: How are you? It's good to see you, beautiful. It's 256 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: been far too long. Oh I know mom. That's Joel, 257 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: and that is Daniel. Hi, Daniel, Hi, Joe, thank you, 258 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. We had my 259 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: mom on and we just want to We just wanted 260 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: to have you on because not only do we uh 261 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: do we want to talk to you about a young 262 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: Donald phase on um and tell us all this all 263 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: the good stories, but also, you know, my mom is 264 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: a psychologist, so she we asked her some psychology questions. 265 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: And we have so many people to talk to us 266 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: about getting into the business as actors, and we thought 267 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: we could pick your brain for people that watch and 268 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: listen to this about what it's like being an agent 269 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: and in the business. So, Mom, have you ever listened 270 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: to the podcast? Yes? Have you ever? Yes? I have. 271 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: How many times have you listened to this podcast? Would 272 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: you like for me to be honest? Yes, I would 273 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: absolutely three Thank you for all three times. But surely 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: surely did you? Did you laugh at least? Yes? I did? 275 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: All right? Good, Yes I did? I did? Uh? Okay. 276 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I think we should start from the very as Zach 277 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: always says, start at the very beginning, A very good 278 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: place to start. When you're saying you begin with do 279 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: ray me. Oh no, but it's not when you say. 280 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: It's when you when you begin, when your BC and 281 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: when you're saying you begin with me. All right, So Donald, 282 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: what beginning you want to start? Let's talk about how 283 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: like how like young Don Donald always talks about the 284 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: theater you and your ex husband Ran. Can you tell 285 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: us like how that came about and what it was 286 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: like Donald hanging out in the young theater, because that's 287 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: clearly he mentions that all the time, is being very 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: impactful about what got him interested in the arts. Yeah. Yeah, 289 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: well I became a part of the theater when I 290 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: now for all of the people that are out there 291 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: that don't know what the theater is it's the National 292 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: Black Theater. Yes, I became a part of the National 293 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: Black Theater after they performed at my college. I was 294 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: at Rutgers University, and um, they performed on my college campus, 295 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: and that's how I was introduced to them. And then um, 296 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I came to New York and I became a part 297 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: of National Black Theater. When I had uh, well, I 298 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: called Donald Shoon Sorr. They know that, Okay, they know 299 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: how they know they even know how to spell it correctly, Mom, Okay. 300 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: So so when I had Shoon, Um Shon would come 301 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to all the rehearsals. I was a performer back then, 302 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: and she would come to all the rehearsals and he 303 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: would sit in the front row of all the performances. 304 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: And actually he almost got beat up by one of 305 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: the actors because he would say their lines before they 306 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: so yeah and so. So. He would be in the 307 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: front row saying the lines before the actors would sam 308 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: and the actors would get very angry with him because 309 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: he was saying their lines before they could even say them. Right. 310 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question, Mom, at what 311 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: point where you like I got to get him out 312 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: of the front row and onto onto the stage. When 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: would you start realizing that he might want to I mean, 314 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: obviously be sitting in the front row and mounting along. 315 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: You might have a sense that he's into this. But 316 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: when did you when you push? No, but he when 317 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: he was a baby and he would be in the stroller. Well, 318 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the strollers then, Um, they were like I want to say, 319 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: like little cages, I guess, but they had no no, no, no, no, 320 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: they had you know, they had these feet things where 321 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: you know, the feet would rest on a part of 322 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: the stroller. And he when you would push him in 323 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: the stroller, he would raise his head like he was 324 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: in a chariot and like there was a horse in 325 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: front of them. So so you all always knew that. 326 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I always knew that he liked to improvise and he 327 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: liked to imagine. So so um, as part of the theater, 328 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: we created a children's school. It was called the Children's 329 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: School of the Development of Intuitive and God Conscious Art. 330 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: And and all the kids what they did was they 331 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: performed and they created plays. And so he uh, oh, 332 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: I wish I had, I wish I had the video. 333 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure we could find it if you do on 334 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: our Instagram, right, And um, he um, and he would 335 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: perform he was so into it. Like all the other 336 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: kids would be singing and dancing, but he would be 337 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: really into it. He would like put one hundred and 338 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent into his performances. Um. And so we 339 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: knew then that he was destined. And then truly when 340 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: did he he? When did you start submitting him for 341 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: auditions as a child? How old was he? Oh no, 342 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't start doing that until he was 343 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: twelve years old. Boy, he got that one commercial that 344 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: I always joked about the he was twelve. He was 345 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: you have a long time memorized, but you know a 346 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: long time about you know what that he went and got. Okay, 347 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: We had a neighbor that lived on the floor above 348 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: us who was a photographer and her son was a 349 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: big time actress actor, right, and so she took his photograph. 350 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: He had two photos. He had like the two um, 351 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: the two proofs. He took one of the proofs and 352 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: he went to Abrams Artists. Yeah, he went to Abrams 353 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: artist He was twelve years old. They sent him on 354 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: an audition. He had his bus pass. He went to 355 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: the audition with his bus pass. He got a call 356 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: back he went to the callback, he booked it. He said, Mom, 357 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: they tell me I need to bring a guardian. Now, 358 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: you don't sing a guardian to the audition, but if 359 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: you get the job. So so he booked his first audition. 360 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: It was Oatmeal Raising Crisp. Look what they've done to 361 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: my Oatmeal? Yes, I didn't know you've gotten more. I 362 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: just always assumed you only got one commercial, you got multiple. No. 363 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: The first audition I ever went out for was this 364 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: new serial that was coming out called Oatmeal Raising Crisp. 365 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: And I remember I was just like, I'm just gonna 366 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: sing because I never heard the song. It was like, 367 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: look what they've done. It's an old song, and I 368 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna sing. And I remember singing 369 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: it and then being like, oh, he's so adorable. And 370 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: then what I did on the audition wasn't exactly what 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: I had to do in the commercial. Like in the commercial, 372 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: I had to be like, look what they've done to Oatmeal, 373 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: And in the audition I had, I was and I 374 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: remember in the audition I was like, look what they've done. 375 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Look what they've done to me. Now, for goodness, say 376 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the gout and Crisp flakes with the whole new taste. Yeah, 377 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: look or what they've done too Little Meal, right, And 378 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: so I that's what I did. I pretty much went 379 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: on the audition. It was like trying to Christina Aguilera 380 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: the part just like every and I got it. And 381 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: then when I got to the audition, I mean to 382 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: the to the actual shoot, I tried to do that 383 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no, no no, no, no. Your line 384 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: is look what they've done to all meal and you 385 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: have to do it in like and you have to 386 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: do it in five seconds for three seconds, and I 387 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh shut. So the commercial comes out and 388 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: you know, it's the quickest thing ever at the end 389 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: of every one of them too, and it played everywhere 390 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: for such a long time. Look what they on twolt 391 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: meal And that was it. I gotta look that one 392 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: up on YouTube. I've only find it, I'm sure. And 393 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: then and then after that was Turbo Graphics sixteen, right, 394 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was that Turbographic sixteen, which was 395 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: like right around the time Sega came out and all 396 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: of that stuff, and then came to Folders coffee commercial. 397 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh no wait, Foldiers came before Tobo Graphics that's right, 398 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: I take that back. So surely what was it like 399 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: as a mom? You know, and this business is so 400 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: close to impossible and then here's your twelve year old 401 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: book in commercials that must have been exciting. Well, I 402 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: was running a theater and so I couldn't take him. 403 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: So I would take I would hire the actors to 404 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: take him to his shoots because I couldn't go. So 405 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: um yeah, so um. So you really never got to 406 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: experience it and other than watching it, huh, except for 407 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: when we did the Folders commercial. You did come with 408 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: me to that art, Yeah I did. I did go 409 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: to the Folders commercial, and I went to Washington, DC 410 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: when you shot the Polaroid commercial that never aired. That 411 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: never aired, right, right, Yeah, so I did go to 412 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: that one, but I never I never, like one time 413 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: he would go to California and test I'd never went. 414 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I went once. I went once. I went once. That 415 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: was when Tevin Campbell blew me out the water. No, 416 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: Grandma was with me when that happened. Yeah, what happened. 417 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: So I went on an audition back in the day 418 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: for this Quincy Jones pilot, right, and uh it was 419 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: about the dude who got The star of the show 420 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: was Skippy from Family Ties. Remember Skippy Alice's best friend. Yeah, 421 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: so he's the lead on the show and he plays this, 422 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: he plays like this record producer or something like that, 423 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: and uh, out of New York. I was the one 424 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: that made it out of New York. But I had 425 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: to go to LA. I get how old you at 426 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: this point. I'm not even in high school yet, you 427 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you end up a guardian 428 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: to fly with you. Yes, And so my grandmother went 429 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: with me, right, and you know, we get there and 430 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I'm singing in the audition. I come 431 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: out to Tina Arnold's there and she's like, wow, that 432 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: was really good. Now I had seen her in little 433 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: Shop already. She was a little Shop of horror already, 434 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and she was in all of these other things, and 435 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, A bona fide celebrity, a 436 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: bonafide star told me. I did a good job on 437 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: this audition. So I'm like, I think I got this. 438 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: I go to LA with my grandmother. We walk in 439 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: t Shirt Campbell's at the audition. Like now it's like 440 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: big leagues. Now, it's like, holy cow. Everybody is here, 441 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: and there's these two kids there that are auditioning for 442 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: my part, but I had never heard of him. One's 443 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: name was Rosan Patterson and the other kid's name was 444 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: Tevin Campbell. And I'm like, there's no way these two 445 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: suckers is gonna be me for this part. I can't 446 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: wait to go in. So Rasan Patterson goes in first, 447 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: crushes I'm like he was good, yes, but I like, 448 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I got this. Tevin Campbell goes in next. 449 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you people out there know who 450 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Tevin Campbell is. Tevin Campbell is the one that sang 451 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: uh that way, talk for a minute, not just that, 452 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: but at the time, I guess tomorrow will bring a 453 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: better than you, a better than me, and know the 454 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: will show this world right whatever that song was. And 455 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: then after that he's had songs like can we talk 456 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: for a minute, girl, I'm on to know your name? Right, 457 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: He's had several gonna light a lighter pretty soon, several 458 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: hits six. Then he goes in and fucking slays Now 459 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: to go after him? Yes, Now I go in. The 460 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: piano player is not in my key and he's singing 461 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: that he's playing the ship real high. So now I'm like, 462 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: you and I must make a pat and I'm like, 463 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I fucking don't get I'm not gonna get this part. 464 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: I was like, at least when when they have me read, 465 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: I know, I'll take these guys out because I know 466 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: I can read, right, I know, I know these guys 467 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: are singers. But I'm the actor in the bunch they 468 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: had me read, No, they didn't even get I didn't 469 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: even get to the read. They were like, after I finished, 470 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: I came out, I sat down and I could tell 471 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: people in the audience were like, I mean in the 472 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: in the audition, like it didn't go that well. They're like, 473 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there and my grandmother's like, you did 474 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: all right, baby, don't worry about it, and uh they 475 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: come on, they go, Donald, you can leave now, thank you. 476 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: And I was like and like I had my suit kake, 477 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: like we had just got off the plane, like all 478 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: of that shit, like you know what I mean, Like 479 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: it hurts. And then that night we we hung out 480 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: with the other girl who didn't get the part also 481 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and we went bowling and all of that stuff. But 482 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: I just remember walking as soon as I was done singing. 483 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: They were like, thank you Donald, and I was like, oh, 484 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: and all because the pianist wasn't playing it in your key, 485 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, all because Tevin Campbell got in my freaking soul. 486 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: And always it always sucks when you can you know, 487 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: sometimes for those you don't know, when you're in an 488 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: audition room, you can hear it's like you're I just 489 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: outside the door, and so you can hear other people going, 490 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: and that just can be such a mind fuck if 491 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: it's but it could be a boost if the person 492 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: sucks and you're like, oh, I got the I remember 493 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: sitting in waiting rooms when I first got to Hollywood, 494 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: and I look around the waiting room and I'd just 495 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: be so insecure, and all these guys were so good looking, 496 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I'm never gonna what the fuck 497 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: am I doing? And these guys are like models. And 498 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: then I'd hear them go and I'd be like, oh, well, 499 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: I can act. I've got a shot. Remember when Sean 500 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: Wayne Wayne sent you to the bathroom. Yeah, so no, 501 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: not Sean Marlin. So I grew up with So I 502 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: grew up with Marlon Wayne's Omar Epps. They went to 503 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: LaGuardia and this my brother, my friend Mitchy, and the 504 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: three of them. They're like best friends. They like the 505 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: three amigoes. But I used to ride the train at 506 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: the bus from my school all the way up to 507 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty fifth Street where the National Black 508 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: Theater was pretty much every day, so I would and 509 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: they would ride all the way uptown too, So I 510 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: was always with them, and you know, I got to 511 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: know them and we would laugh and shoot the ship 512 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: all the time, and you know, sometimes hang out after 513 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: school like you know. It was. It was they were 514 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: friends of mine. And one I didn't know, Marlon, was 515 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: an actor. And one time I went on an audition 516 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: and he was there and I was like, hey, man, 517 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: what are you doing here. He's like, I'm auditioning. He's like, 518 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? I was like, I'm auditioning. 519 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I was like where where where's the room at? Oh? 520 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: He goes. He says, it's down the hall. It's that way, 521 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: go through that door, through that door, and then around 522 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: the corner and then it's like the last door all 523 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: the way down the corridor. And I was like, thanks, man. 524 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like, break a leg. He was like, you two. 525 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: It looked like he was getting on the elevator. I 526 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: walk all the way down there, no after signing it. No, 527 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: I walk all the way down there, and it turns 528 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: out to be the bathroom, and I'm like, what the fuck? 529 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: But I come all the way back and where the 530 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: signing sheet was was the door to go into the audition. 531 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: So I opened the door to go in the audition 532 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: and he's sitting in the room smiling at me like 533 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: hey man, and he totally mind fucked me. I didn't 534 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: get that part either. Man. There's so many tricks that 535 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: people do as as actors in the waiting room, Like 536 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: you'll see there's the guy who tries to keep you 537 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: talking the whole time. Yeah, so you're not, so you're 538 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: not getting in your head about like getting in your 539 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: great headspace to go in and kill it. Did I 540 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: tell you guys about the guy used to come out 541 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: of every audition crying. I forgot in case he was 542 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: that that The short version is he'd come out, he'd 543 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: be crying. We will all be looking at the pages 544 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: like where the fuck is the crying scene? And he 545 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: would just throw it in because he could cry and 546 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: queue like that and he'd be like, he'd be like 547 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: swiping his tears. He'd come out of like good luck everybody, 548 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: bregger leg. We're like, what's going on? And then I 549 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: once finally asked him. I was like, dude, why are 550 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: you crying in every audition? He's like, hell, people love 551 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: them when you can cry like that. They don't care 552 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 1: if it's even in the scene. They just they think 553 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: you're a good actor. I'm like, well, how do you 554 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: do that? He goes, I just think of anyone doing 555 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: anything mean to animals. And I was like, and I'm 556 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: sitting there like thinking of people doing mean things to animals, 557 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: and no tears are coming. I'm like, I hate that, man. 558 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. It's a it's a great 559 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: skill to have. But you know, crying doesn't make you 560 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: a good actor. No, I know, I'm just talking about mine. 561 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about going off of what you said 562 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: about all the shenanigans that happened in casting waiting rooms 563 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: and people trying to mind fuck each other. Yeah, and 564 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: it still happens. Like I'll go on auditions now, uh, 565 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: Like I auditioned for a television show two years ago 566 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: when everybody was auditioning and you could still go out. 567 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: And this one person in the waiting room just kept 568 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: talking to me. I was like, dude, I know what 569 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: you're doing. Please stop, and it's okay, you don't have 570 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: to do this. We're all gonna get don't have to 571 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: do this. Man, he just kept doing it, and I 572 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm gonna just step outside. Yeah, 573 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: since since I've been an agent, um, we should get 574 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: into that story before we Well we can, we can 575 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: do them simultaneously, but but yeah, surely tell us about 576 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: what you're about to say. And then I want to 577 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: ask you a question about agent. Right, Well, since I've 578 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: been an agent. Um. Uh, there was a mother that 579 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: would take her child to the audition and they would 580 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: bring their Boa constructor with them. So if you could 581 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: imagine a bunch of kids an audition and somebody walks 582 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: in with a Boa constructor, right, they're all the kids 583 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: are going crazy for the snake. Yeah, pet the snake 584 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: and hold the snake and not really concentrate or be 585 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: afraid or be afraid of the snake or whatever it is. 586 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: It can be such a you know, you can work 587 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a week on an audition. It's like, you know, it's 588 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: the analogy. I often think it was the Olympics, and 589 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter how long you're trained, It doesn't 590 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: matter how great you were in your home gym or 591 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: in your living room. All that matters is what you 592 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: do when you walk in that room, and and you 593 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: can get so easily. Well, it's easy to get mind 594 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: fucked by what's happening outside the room and what's going 595 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: on in your head that day. Yeah, it's yea. The 596 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: distraction is real. And you only get one shot when 597 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: you go in an audition too. That's that's the thing 598 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: that they don't you know, that's the thing that they 599 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: don't train you for. You can rehearse and rehearse and 600 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: rehearse and rehearse. One slip up and you know, casting 601 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: most likely is moving on. You know, for the most part, 602 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: if you can walk in and give perfection when you audition, 603 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: you're most likely going to get the part. If you 604 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: have if you if you have the look, that's a bonus. 605 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: But if you can deliver that one time, right now, deliver, 606 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna hire and an injury and in an interesting 607 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: way that's unique and different, different from the everybody else. 608 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: But wait, Sureley, I want to go back to just 609 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: like it's keeping in Donald's careers. So then what what 610 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: was the next big thing Donald? Was it Clueless or Titans? No, 611 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: I didn't. I did a bunch of really small indie 612 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: movies that turned out to be really big before that, 613 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: before I did Clueless, and before I did remember the Titans, 614 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: like I did, um this movie sugar Hill. Well, I 615 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: did a bunch of television like you know, like little 616 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: parts here on TV. And we met Wesley Snipes, and 617 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: I remember I auditioned for sugar Hill and got the part, 618 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: and I had worked. Wesley Snipes walked me and my 619 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: mom home to the subway? Was it to the subway 620 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: or was it? What was it? Oh? I don't remember that, Okay. 621 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: So when I got a I got a small part 622 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: where I was where New York was. The name of 623 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: the show was called Help and New and New York 624 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: was overrun by rats in the in one of the episodes, 625 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: and I had one line. And you know, they made 626 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: me dress up like a like a like I was 627 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: a street thug, and you know, the news is on 628 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: me and I'm rapping to the camera and I go, hey, 629 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: new York don't worry about nothing. We here to do 630 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: some serious rap busting. And I got a bat in 631 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: my hand, right And Wesley Snipes plays like a cop 632 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: on the show. And after I did that scene, he 633 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: walked with me and my mom to the subway station. 634 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: He walked us to the subway station. He gave us 635 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: his old spiel on Noah, who he was and what 636 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: he had, you know what he was up to. About 637 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: four years later, I guess it was my senior year. 638 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't my senior, junior or senior year in 639 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: high school. I got a part. I started getting small 640 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: parts in movies. Juice was first, and then sugar Hill, 641 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: and Wesley Snipes was in sugar Hill, and I remember 642 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: we're doing a bunch of scenes and stuff and I 643 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: was like, you know where you met me, do you? 644 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: He's like, of course I do. Man. We met one 645 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: help nine one one back, you know, a few years ago. 646 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm really happy you here right now. And 647 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, Wesley Snipes remembers me. This big, 648 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: this big, huge star remembers me. But then there were 649 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: small roles in small movies that turned out to be 650 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: like either a hood classic, like Juicon and sugar Hill, 651 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: a Straighthood classics man Michael Michael writes in one is 652 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: in sugar Hill like it's It's It's. I was very 653 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: lucky to be around a lot of the people I 654 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: grew up with in the building that my mom lives 655 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: in now. So like h Wesley Snipes, Michael Wright, all 656 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: of these actors would come and frequent Manhattan Plaza. Yeah, 657 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: what was it surely about that building that attracted so 658 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: many actors. Well, what happened was that UM Manhattan Plaza 659 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a luxury building and UM and 660 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: because the convention Center was supposed to be built where 661 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: it is now, but but years before the convention center 662 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: didn't happen then, and so UM the actor's Equity and 663 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: SAG lobbied for the building to be UM residence for artists. 664 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: But so who was the head? Who was the person 665 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: who spearheaded that uh punjab from Annie right, the guy 666 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: who played yes Um, Jeoffrey Holder. Jeffrey Holder. Jeffrey Holder 667 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: was one of the people seven up guy, Yeah, Sebastian 668 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: from a Little Mermaid Too. Yeah, So there were quite 669 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: there were quite a few people that that wanted it 670 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: to be an artist. Um complex. So seventy percent of 671 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: the people that moved into the building were either performing 672 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: artists or artist personnel. So so. UM, screenwriters like Angela 673 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Lansbury lived here Tennessee. Williams left here now, Nel Carter 674 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: um and and Alicia Keys was grew up with shown 675 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: here and um it was a building it is still 676 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: a building for a performing artists. Wow. So wow, yes, yes, 677 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's so amazing because Umm, I'm on 678 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: the Tennants Association here, I'm one of the vps, and 679 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: we try to make sure that, um, we have things 680 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: in the building that support artists and support um so 681 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: so so like during COVID we did um concerts on 682 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: the plaza where people could where people could actually sit 683 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: on their balconies and listen to the music. UM yeah um. 684 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: And then on the quiet Park, which is another part, 685 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: we'd have string orchestras out there and um, so that 686 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: people that lived in that area would be able to 687 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: view it. When I think about it, Mom, you set 688 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: me up to be what I am right now because 689 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: of you, know, your your tenacity to get into the building. 690 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: First of all, like you were like, I'm gonna get 691 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: us into this building and I did that. And so 692 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: then now I'm surrounded by all of these actors and 693 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: musicians and entertainers and writers. And like Larry David's from 694 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: Manhattan Seinfeld is based on Manhattan Plaza, you know what 695 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean. Larry David's uh neighbor, right, He's no, he 696 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: wasn't No Kramer, Kenny Kramer. I grew up with his daughter, 697 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so and so, like, 698 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: I was always around actor, so it was always a 699 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: possibility in my mind, I can do it. I've seen 700 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: I've seen my neighbor do it, my next door neighbors 701 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: on freaking Broadway. But you know what I mean. So 702 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: I always thought, and you're right in the middle of it. 703 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you're a block from Times Square 704 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: where it's all happening, but not just that. But then 705 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: I would go uptown to Harlem and my mom's directing plays, 706 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. So I'm like, I 707 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: can do this. I know I can do this. It's 708 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: in my bo I'm seeing my mom do it. I 709 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: know I can do it. And so I knew at 710 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: a very young age I was going to be an actor. 711 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: And it's really because of you, mom, because you kind 712 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: of set me up to be where I'm at right now. 713 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: No people talk about momagers and everything like that. My 714 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: mom wasn't a momager or anything like that. But I 715 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: missed out on quite a few things, Like I was 716 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: a pretty good athlete. I missed out on basketball. I 717 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: missed out on baseball, like like real big games and stuff. 718 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: My mom would be like, you have an audition and 719 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: I would never get those parts. But she was setting 720 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: me up for you know, success, and I appreciate that 721 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: so much more. Oh, thank you, thank you. Let's take 722 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. 723 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: Surely tell us about um, like what was what was 724 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: a big like he was getting these smaller parts? And 725 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: then what did you feel? And I don't know the 726 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: chronology if it was clues or titans, but when what 727 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: was like a oh shit, next step for Donald's career? Mmmm? Um? 728 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: How about when were you like, oh shit, he's going 729 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: to do it, He's really going to do it. No, 730 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew it was going to do it 731 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and it wasn't you know. You know, 732 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: there's sometimes when there are kids that there's a point 733 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: in their life where they do a whole bunch of 734 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: stuff and then they don't do anything else. Yeah. Uh, 735 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: he had a steady, constant career. So maybe he might 736 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 1: do one thing a year or two things a year, 737 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: but he would always do something. So I knew that 738 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: it was it was something that was constant. It wasn't 739 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: something that was just oh, he's cute right now, and 740 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: so he's going to work right now. I was really 741 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: clear that he was going to there was going to 742 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: be longevity, yeah, in his career and um, and so 743 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: we supported him and in doing that. Um. And I 744 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: remember one year we went to the movies to see something. 745 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, but but uh, the 746 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: preview for Upcoming Attractions came on and there he was 747 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: and it was New Year's Eve. I think that we 748 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: had gone to the movies and it was like, oh 749 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: my god, he's His scene was in the Coming Attraction 750 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: and I was I was like, oh my goodness, this 751 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: is amazing. You know, the whole movie was that Donald 752 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: probably remember The Titans. No, it was before I remember 753 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: the Titans. Oh yeah, I don't think I am okay, sure, 754 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: I remember when I knew that it was. I didn't. 755 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: I knew that I had reached a level. When I 756 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: was Disney rented out a movie theater for my mom 757 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: and all of her friends and myself to go watch. 758 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: Remember the Titans wo word came out, and that was 759 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: when I was like, holy shit, it's it's you know, 760 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: I had done Clueless already. I had done Weight in 761 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: the Exhale already, But that's when I was like, holy shit. 762 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Like there's a scene in Um Notorious where Biggie's sitting 763 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: down and he's listening in the sky as a limit. 764 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: He's like, hofully shit, I did it. Yeah, I did it. 765 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm the best rapper alive. I did it. I did it, 766 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't think I was the best actor alive, 767 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: but I was like, holy shit, I did it in 768 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: a movie with an actor. My mom has always talked 769 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: about my whole ever since. I can remember Denzel like this, 770 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: Like I used to make a joke. There's three pictures 771 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: in the house growing up. There was a picture of Jesus, 772 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 1: picture of doctor Martin Luther King, and then the picture 773 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: of Denzel Washington. You know. I used to yeah, right 774 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: and so and so my I remember doing being there 775 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: and seeing my mom um, my friends, everybody like caught 776 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: up in this movie and not really thinking about me 777 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: in the movie, just being caught up in the in 778 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: the moment, you know what I mean, in the in 779 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: the magic and saying, holy shit, I did it. I 780 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: fucking I finally I did it. I did it' I 781 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: know I knew walking out of that theater. My mom 782 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: was on cloud nine because of it, even if I 783 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: don't know if she liked Clueless. I don't know if 784 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: you liked. I'm sure you liked Waiting the Exhale, but 785 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: I knew you were on cloud nine when you walked 786 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: out in the theater after watching Remember the Titans, because 787 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: everybody else was, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah. 788 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: The thing about Remember the Titans also that I loved 789 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: was was the historical, historical element about it. And and 790 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: and I remember watching it and there was a moment 791 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: where everybody, all my friends, we all just stood up. 792 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so it was it was 793 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: just so emotional, you know, and m and it holds up. 794 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: I mean I just recently saw it for the first time, uh, 795 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: which Donald loves to talk about, but I you know, 796 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: it holds up today. I was on the verge of 797 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: standing up in the planting when I watched it in 798 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: my house. It's one of those Yeah, I knew after that. 799 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, whatever happens after this is gravy. 800 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: I had no idea that Scrubs would be next, like 801 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: it went from. My twenties were fucking awesome because of 802 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: the work that I got to do Clueless, remember the 803 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: Titans waiting to exhale Scrubs, Like all of those things 804 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: came into play in my twenties. Surely do you remember 805 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: um just down that he brought up Scrubs? Do you 806 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: remember like that, like finding out that he got it, 807 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: like knowing that he had, that he was a serious 808 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: contender for it, and that all of a sudden he 809 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 1: got this primetime show. Jan knew nothing about it until 810 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: we came to upfronts and I took it up front. Yeah, really, 811 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: what's that story? You just you didn't because you didn't 812 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: want to. You didn't want to, like hover be well, 813 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: I had been on a television I had been on 814 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: a television. I'd been on several television shows before, or 815 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: Scrubs that you had done Clueless and Felicity and right 816 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: that we're struggling to stay on the air, you know 817 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, right, like really struggling. So then what 818 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: did you tell her at the upfronts? Like how did 819 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: that go down? I was like, Hey, I got a show. 820 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: Why don't you come and be the upfront. That's the 821 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: year that they were like, Donald, you didn't get the memo. 822 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: It was that year? Oh ye was that year one? Yeah, 823 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: we all went to our first big event and we 824 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: were all dressed up and Donald's like in sweatpants. And 825 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 1: I remember, like some photographers like, what's the matter? Donald 826 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: didn't get the memo? Right? But anyway, my mom for 827 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: the first time, so because you know, they would play 828 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: a sizzle reel of the show at the upfront and 829 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: she saw it for the first time. She was like 830 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: it's really good. Oh my god, it's so good. I 831 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: can't believe this is so good. And I was like, yeah, 832 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. 833 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: And that night I gave Jeff Zucca a nuggie. Yeah 834 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: good times. Yeah, Um, Mom, I want to talk about 835 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: one thing, so, um, let's talk about how you became 836 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: an agent. Yeah, because that was really interesting to me. 837 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: I remember you just always being like, I'm going to 838 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: be involved in your career, and I remember me always 839 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: fighting you, saying there's no way I'm ever gonna let 840 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: you be a part of all of this. And then 841 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: the next thing I know, you were working at my 842 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: agent's office. Yeah. Well, okay, So I became an It 843 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: was a life change, a career change, because I had 844 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: been working in theater. I had been a development officer, 845 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: I've been a director, I've been a producer, I've been 846 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 1: executive director. And at some point I got burnt out. 847 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: And also, um, me and Donald's father broke up, so um, 848 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: I and I worked with him, and so I wanted 849 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: to do something different. And Shoot was working at the 850 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: agency when he wasn't working, um, you know, pulling pictures 851 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: and director. Oh Carson Evler agency, so famous agency in 852 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, so Shon was working at the agency, 853 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: UM as an assistant, and he was gonna go to 854 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: do something. It wasn't clueless because I was there when 855 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: he got clueless. It was something else. He was going 856 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: to test for something. And um and for me, yeah 857 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: you did. You asked me to cover for you while 858 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: because I wanted to shift what I was doing and 859 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: so I covered for him, and when he got back, 860 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have a job. This sounds like the funniest movie. 861 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: I would so watch this movie. A guy had a 862 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: job and he's like, mom, I need a favorite I 863 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: came back. They were like, you can't work here no more. 864 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: That we're talking about your mom's running the place, like yeah, 865 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean now now it's to the point where she's 866 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: a partner. And I was saying, of course, we want 867 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: I want to hear that, but I think it's funny 868 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: that your mom was doing your job so well that 869 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: they were like, numb bro, sorry you're gone. Well, I 870 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: was horrible at the job, Like I sucked at it. 871 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: I was really bad. It has a lot to There 872 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,720 Speaker 1: was a lot of typing and spelling and reading involved, 873 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 1: and Zach, you know me, I'm not strong in any 874 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: of those categories. So yeah, I had to I had to. Uh, 875 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: I had to relinquish that job. And that was and 876 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: that was before UM word processing, so it was a 877 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: type writer, right. UM I went and I and I 878 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: covered for him, and I communicated that I wanted to 879 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: become an agent. And so after about six months of 880 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: being quote unquote an assistant, UM, I got my subfranchise 881 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: and I UM and so UM Carson Adler was known 882 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: as a children's agency, and Nancy asked me what I 883 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: wanted to do, and I it's hard working with parents, 884 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: it really is. And so I said, I wanted to 885 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: focus more on young adults and adults. So I started 886 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: the UM the Young adult adult vision of the division 887 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: of the agency and come quite successful. Let's talk about 888 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: some of the people that you represented or some of 889 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: the people that have come through that agency that are 890 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: now big time in Hollywood. Like well, one of my 891 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: one of my clients was Constant School. I represented her 892 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: right out of college. UM I represented las Alonzo, UM, 893 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: I've represented um bb Winan's Stephanie Mills, UM, Robin Givens Um. Yeah. 894 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the kids that you used 895 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: to take to her their auditions, Like did you ever 896 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: use is it true, used to take Kristen Bell to 897 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: her auditions? And yes I did. I did because she 898 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: would fly in from Chicago and Nancy would pick her 899 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: up from the airport and bring it to the agency, 900 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: and then I would take her to her auditions, and 901 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: then Nancy would take her back to the airport and 902 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: she would fly back to Chicago. At the end of 903 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: the day, I ran into Liam Michel h yeah, uh 904 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: huh yeah, and the same thing with her, right, yeah, 905 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: well Leah, Leah would Leah lived in New York, right, 906 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: um um and um so so she so she actually 907 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: would go at her own auditions, but she would. She 908 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: would come in the office a lot in Bethany Joy 909 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: lens Um, David Krumholtz, Rum, I remember crum Holts back 910 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, I was a kid actor at 911 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: a place called Fox albert You remember them, Oh, yes, 912 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: I do. I remember Fox Alberts. So that's where I was. 913 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: And I would and it was a similar situation to you. 914 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: I'd come in and I was too young. Sometimes I 915 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: was too young in the beginning, and I'd have a 916 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: guardian or someone with me, and sometimes someone from the 917 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: agency would take me around because I was so young 918 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: and wide eyed and didn't know New York. Yeah, it's 919 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: really interesting how many people come up to me in Hollywood. 920 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: You know. It used to be everybody who was African American, 921 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: like your mom was my agent and New York City. 922 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: It happens to me too anyway. When I when I 923 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: walk around Manhattan, or the theater district. People know that 924 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: I know you obviously, and they use Shirley as a 925 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: way to start talking to me. They're like, I know 926 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: Shirley phase on, and I'm like, everybody knows Shley, Pa, 927 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: we're in the theater district. But that's something that you 928 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: really like. That's where you thrive. Also, like you had, 929 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: You've had, you have people that turned into movie stars 930 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, But you thrive on Broadway and 931 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: off Broadway, right m hmm, yeah, well before the pandemic, 932 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: because Broadway is not happening right now. But um, Hamilton, 933 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: Lion King name Michelle? What about what was the one 934 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: that Zach and I love so much? You'll have to 935 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: be more specific, the one the one with the Josh 936 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: Gad that Josh Gadd was in Oh Book of Mormon. Oh, yes, 937 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: I've had, I've had people in Book of Mormon. Yes. Um, 938 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: surely this is a question I get all the time 939 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: and I never know the answer to it because I 940 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: was a kid actor and uh and I had and 941 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: I had a weird kind of waning into the business. 942 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: But for those people listening who either they or they 943 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 1: have a child that aspires like, how do you even 944 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: begin to get an agent in two thy twenty one, Like, 945 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know what to tell 946 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 1: people how to how to do it. Um. There's several 947 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: ways um as an agent, I go to showcases so 948 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: UM and if there's a reputable school, um that you 949 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: go to when they do a showcase, I'll go to 950 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: the showcase if they hold a showcase, and I will 951 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: UM see who I like and speak to the person 952 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: who teaches the classes about that particular person. Or a 953 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: teacher might say, you know, I have an incredible student 954 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: that I would like for you to UM to see. 955 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: Also um. Also UM, I go to shows um off Broadway, 956 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: off off Broadway, UM little theaters, and if there's someone 957 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: that I like, I will speak to whomever to get 958 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: in touch with them. UM. Sometimes UM, I might see 959 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: a YouTube video and and and it's like, oh my god, 960 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: that person's amazing, UM, and I might try to reach 961 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: out to them. That's a little you know, if a 962 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: person has a whole lot of followers and you know, 963 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: a larger agency is gonna try to scoop them, grab 964 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: them before I can get to them. But but um, 965 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: the most important thing, it seems like is to find 966 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: a way to not only be in something right, but 967 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: then get talent agents to come to the thing. I mean, 968 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: that's that's the most important thing, is to have them 969 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: see you do something right. Yes, exactly. You guys don't 970 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: do open calls anymore, like have people come in and 971 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: just well I have to do that with screen actors 972 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 1: guilt and with Actors' Equity Association, um. But as far 973 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: as people just coming into the office and doing an 974 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: open call that way, No, I make appointments and now 975 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: during COVID, I do zoom appointments. When I was at 976 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: my last year in Northwestern, they had a we had 977 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: a showcase and that was really that was really helpful. 978 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: We did they invite casting directors and agents and managers 979 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: and you do like a dramatic monologue and a no sorry, 980 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,479 Speaker 1: I did a dramatic scene in a comedic scene. And 981 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anything really fully materialized from it, 982 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: but it was like a good It was good experience. 983 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: And I got some some nimbles, and I remember one 984 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: of them was from Blue Man Group because they were 985 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: just they were just looking for anyone that was six 986 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: feet tall blue makeup. Yeah, and I was like we 987 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: Basically their attitude was like, we could teach you everything. 988 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: We could teach you to drum, we could teach you 989 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: to whatever you need to do, but we need to 990 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: be six foot tall and milling to shave your head 991 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: and turn blue. I was like, no, I'm good, thanks, 992 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: and didn't flash forward to Blue Man Group on Scrubs, right, 993 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: and then we had them on Scrubs. There you go. Yeah, 994 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: we have a caller mom. Yeah, usually your mom might 995 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: not even know that we take callers. We take callers 996 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: on this show for you know, the three times that 997 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: you've listened, I'm sure you. We don't know if you've 998 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: made it to the caller section. Yes, I have, I have. Okay, 999 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna have it. We're gonna bite a callering and 1000 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna they're gonna ask two questions, right Joel, and 1001 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: then we're gonna and then we do a segment called 1002 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: fix their Life or you're gonna We're gonna list you 1003 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: to help us fix their life. Okay, we become pop 1004 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: psychologists for ten minutes. Um, we need to do that. 1005 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: We'll go to break though, right, Okay, we're gonna say 1006 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: a commercial break and we'll be right back for um. 1007 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: All right, so Joel Daniel, bring in the guest and 1008 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: let's wow them on a Sunday or it comes day 1009 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: my birthday. When you're listening to thee, here comes Teddy Shapiro. 1010 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: Teddy Shapiro, give it up for a theory Chapiro under 1011 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: as applause. Oh my god, there you are? Are you? 1012 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: How are you? Theodore? I am great? Thank you? Donald? 1013 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: How are you? I am well? Thank you for asking. 1014 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: You're having my lovely mother Shirley phase on with us. 1015 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: Missus Payson, how are you? I'm good? How are you to? 1016 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you? And we have some course legendary 1017 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: Daniel in legendary Joel pleasure, welcome, and that right there 1018 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: is the one and only Zach Brath. Yes, I have 1019 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: on my terry cloth shirt for you today because it's 1020 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: a gorgeous daye Los Angeles and beautiful day in Chicago. 1021 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want you to see me naked, so I 1022 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: put my terry cloth shirt on. Thank you. Um, how 1023 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. We're so happy you're here. You 1024 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,760 Speaker 1: have the added advantage of having the legendary Shirley phaise 1025 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: On on the program. Do you have a question for 1026 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: us that we can answer. I do, I do. Um. 1027 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: My first question is for Donald and Zach, is you know, 1028 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: I know you guys are best friends, But when do 1029 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: you guys first feel like that connection and when do 1030 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: you guys first realize like, oh, this is gonna be 1031 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: my man and my man for like ever? Instantaneously? Yeah? 1032 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: It was? I mean, well, Donald has a different answer. 1033 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: It instantaneous. He had me at first hip hop hug. 1034 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a hip hop hug. It was a 1035 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: hip hop hug. Donald, it wasn't Dick. I'm implying we 1036 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: went growing to growing in Bill's living room. I don't 1037 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: think so. I'm pretty sure we went growing to growing. No, 1038 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: I think there was the arm barrier. There was no barrier. 1039 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: There was no barrier. There was. It was a hey, hey, heyy, 1040 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,479 Speaker 1: and then a big Donald was I've said this before, 1041 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: but I was nervous because I was I knew that 1042 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: I knew who he was, obviously he was a famous actor, 1043 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, what's it gonna be, Like, 1044 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna play my best friend? Will he be cool? 1045 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: Will he be a right again? Well? What was su 1046 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: vibe going to be? And we were in bills in 1047 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: Christa's living room and he was at the bar. There 1048 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: was a you know, a little bar area, and he 1049 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: turned around he went hey, and I was like, oh, 1050 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: I already loved this guy. And then we had a 1051 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: big hug which may or not been grun to growing 1052 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: didn't recall and um, and we never looked back. Donald, 1053 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: When did you think that you realized that I knew 1054 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: we were best friends when we were living in New 1055 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: York one year after the first season of Scrub. We 1056 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: were living in New York and we were in our 1057 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: underwear playing ping pong. Yes, And I was like, I 1058 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: asked my best friend, Yeah, legendary. And I had to 1059 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: break into Donald that his room was the laundry room 1060 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: because I had gotten my first and he was like, 1061 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not Benson. So I wound up staying like on 1062 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 1: a cot right outside of him. No, it wasn't a cot, 1063 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: it was a bed. It's just it was very intimate. 1064 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: We we basically shared a room. Yes, I'll look at 1065 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: the martini coming out of Teddy. All right, Teddy, look 1066 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: at you. It's not what it's seven or six six six? 1067 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: All right? All right, go for yours, all right, Teddy 1068 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: next question, go um, and then just what kind of 1069 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: what actor, producer, writer, director kind of had the most 1070 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: profound impact on yours and Donald's career from you know 1071 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: going forward. Well, I'm gonna give a controversial answer, but 1072 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: it's not it's the answer. I'm gonna be the true answer, 1073 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: which is Woody Allen. And I know that that's extraordinarily 1074 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: because of all the stuff we're learning now. But when 1075 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: I was growing up, he was a godhead to my family. 1076 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: It was my parents' favorite. It's all. You know, if 1077 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: we if the humor was what we grew up on, 1078 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: it was, you know, that sort of East Coast neurotic 1079 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: Jewish guy, and I think it did. It didn't form 1080 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of my comedic timing. He wasn't the only one. 1081 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: There were others like Neil Simon and mel Brooks and 1082 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: but definitely my mother and father's love of his movies 1083 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: was was sort of ingrained upon on us that that's 1084 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: that's what was funny. That was that comedic timing and 1085 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: and and and his style of storytelling was was definitely 1086 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: very impactful, and I think impactful on on the films 1087 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: that I'm that I made as well. Um, So I was. 1088 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Star Wars, so Harrison Ford 1089 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: and Billy d Williams are you know, like when I 1090 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: was a kid, that was what was cool to me 1091 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: when I became When I got to high school though, 1092 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Codeem Hardiston was my like. I idolized Codem Hartist. I 1093 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: even had the glasses that flipped up, you know what 1094 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean. He played Dwayne Wayne on A Different World, 1095 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: which was a spin off from the Cosby Show, and 1096 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: I thought he was, you know everything, Like I even 1097 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: tried to dress like him. Any movie that he was in, 1098 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: from like School Days to Vampire in Brooklyn. I had 1099 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: to see it, you know, and um, white men can't 1100 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: jump and uh. He's also the one that kind of 1101 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: when I was at a point where I needed to Okay, 1102 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? How am I gonna do this? 1103 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I performed in front of him once and he came up. Um, 1104 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: you know it was it was a bunch of us performing, 1105 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 1: but I had a monologue and after the show was over, 1106 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: he came to me and hugged me and squeezed me tight. 1107 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, that was all amazing, and he 1108 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of set me on the adult path of yo. 1109 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: If Kadem, Hardison says, I could do it. If the 1110 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: dude that I tried to be like came here and 1111 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 1: told me I was amazing, I'm going forward. I'm going 1112 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: for this and Kadem and then also Denzel Washington. Yeah 1113 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: does Kadem? What? Did he still work? He was absolutely. 1114 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him that much, but he was so good. 1115 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: So something I saw him in something recently. Um, there 1116 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: was a it was a short lived TV series. Now 1117 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: he was on a long lived TV series with Zindeya. 1118 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: He was on her Tell. They did a television show 1119 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: together on Disney. I think okay, um easy he and 1120 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and I think he might be working right now on something. 1121 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: He was So there was a point in our you know, 1122 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: our childhoods when he that show was at its height 1123 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: of popularity and everybody looked up to that guy. He was. 1124 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: He was like the ultimate you know, he was kind 1125 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: of like a Ferris Bueller type character. Yeah he was. 1126 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: I hate to compare it like that, but yeah, he 1127 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: was like the black Ferres Bueller like. He was the 1128 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: dude that was kind of a geek but somehow got 1129 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: the hot girl. And yeah, yeah he was on Casey Undercover. 1130 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: That's what it was with he used his charms to 1131 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: win over the ladies, Jasmine Guy and Lisa Boone. With 1132 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: the two ladies that he used, you know what, I 1133 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: you know what happens when when you say the word 1134 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Lisa Bonet to me, I hear this. I heard that. 1135 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: I heard that man. Zoey fared too. Don't get it twisted. 1136 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: She looked just like her mom, Dan, I need this 1137 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: put in the sound pad. Who No, she's still she's 1138 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: still a knockout man. She's she's prettier than ever. Yeah. 1139 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Her daughter is like an amazing actress too. Yeah, all right, 1140 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: it's time for Chicago's favorite segment, Shirley. This is when 1141 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: we fix yo. All right, sir, we are here and 1142 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: we have a very brilliant mind, Shirley phase On, who's 1143 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: a great mom and a great agent. She can help to. 1144 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 1: What is your question? So I'm twenty four, you know, um, 1145 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,959 Speaker 1: just out of college, and I'm still trying to find 1146 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: my passion. I'm in a job that you know, I 1147 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 1: like where I do, but I don't that's ships at 1148 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: leaste myself doing it long term, and I'm just trying 1149 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to figure out. You know, you've all clearly found your 1150 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: passion and what you want to do in your life, 1151 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to figure it out. How do 1152 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I do that with mine? What do you love more 1153 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: than anything? That's a hard question. I mean, what do 1154 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: you do? What? What? What? Like? When you when you 1155 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: forget anything that is a job related thing like take 1156 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: money out of the equation? When you what? What do 1157 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: you What's happening in your life that you're looking forward 1158 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: to that you go, oh my god, I can't wait 1159 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: for that. I mean it could be camping, it could 1160 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: be traveling, it could be anything and everything that lights 1161 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you up that makes you go yes, X y Z 1162 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: is happening. What is that? Well? I don't know if 1163 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Joel told you, but um, I actually am a cant survivor. 1164 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm a pedetric cantrasurvivor. So something that I do find 1165 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of joy and passion in is working with 1166 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, kids who are in that kind of community 1167 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and you know, helping with that, Well, Bro, that's a 1168 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: good That's a pretty amazing place to start. That sounds that. 1169 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not doing that now, I would suggest, 1170 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean getting into that, especially if it makes you 1171 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: happy at the at the foundation of everything. You have 1172 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: to be happy, right. We all get into jobs and 1173 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: at some point we realized this is this isn't for me. 1174 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: For me, it was being an agent, an assistant at 1175 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: an agent's office. I knew I didn't want to do 1176 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that after a few days of doing it, even though 1177 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I was getting paid. What made me happy was being 1178 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: an actor, and so I my whole life. I pursued 1179 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: that my mom was in theater. You could tell him, 1180 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: You could tell them if you want to, But she 1181 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: was in theater and halfway through her well, you know, 1182 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's. How old were you when 1183 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: you decided to switch? Mom? You never asked. I was forty, 1184 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: so you were forty years old. At forty, she was 1185 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: looking for something that would make her happy and she 1186 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: became an agent. Um, you know, if that makes you happy, 1187 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: why not? Teddy? I just want to point something out 1188 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: to you. You were kind of like shoulders over a 1189 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: little bit, kind of soft spoken, and then as you 1190 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: started talking about being a pediatric cancer survivor and helping someone, 1191 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 1: your shoulders went back, your face lit up, your whole 1192 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 1: posture changed. It's like it's there's something in you that 1193 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: that lights up giving back the fact that the fact 1194 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: that those people who obviously I'm sure made a difference 1195 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: in your life when you were a child battling cancer, 1196 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: And I mean that just goes to show you, like 1197 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: that's when when Donald and I talk about performing or entertaining, 1198 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: directing writing with that, that's what happens to us. We 1199 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: lean forward, we get passionate, and we start just gesticulating 1200 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: all over the place. And I think for you, that's 1201 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: a good place to look. Now. I don't know you 1202 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: would know better than us about what that looks like 1203 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: if you're not going to go to medical school, but 1204 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's lots of different people that made a 1205 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 1: difference in your life that you that you could take 1206 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: on a similar role for children other children, right, M 1207 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: definitely right. I guess welcome. What was your major? Not yet? 1208 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: What was your major in college? I majored in management 1209 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: and minored in general business and finance. What are you 1210 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: doing now? I'm working as an audit and accounting at 1211 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: a fortune five hundred company. So you're doing what you 1212 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: went to school for pretty much more or less. Yeah, 1213 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, doing numbers and you're ready to shift. 1214 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: I think I mean, at a certain point I think 1215 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I am because this is I'm not driven by what 1216 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm currently doing, you know. Yeah, Now, what could you 1217 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: do to set you on the course to to to 1218 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: something that that that's in the spirit of what we're 1219 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 1: talking about, I mean something I mean I want to 1220 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: parlay to be able to if I could be able 1221 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: to like work in this industry and be able to 1222 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: provide for let's say, in my future family and beyond, 1223 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: that's something I want to take an interest in because 1224 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, having that, you know, support, having you know, 1225 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: monetary game is semi important to me as well, not 1226 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: just not just you know, um, but yeah, so it's 1227 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: just kind of trying to find something where I can marry, 1228 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: like having a job that I'm comfortable in, as well 1229 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: as doing something that like I can I'm able to 1230 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: help you know, someone in my position or someone like that, 1231 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: and and it's just kind of it's not an easy 1232 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: medium to find, is what I've been looking into. Yeah, 1233 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 1: the good thing about twenty four is, um, you don't 1234 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: have a family yet, and you know obviously have to 1235 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,480 Speaker 1: pay for your rent and your food and your your survival. 1236 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: But um, but you but now while you're young and 1237 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: wide eyed. It's a great time to be trying and 1238 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: exploring these things out. You know, the second you start 1239 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: getting you know, having people that are reliant on you, 1240 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: you have a lot less freedom and can be way 1241 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: less nimble. You're in a twenty four is like, let 1242 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: me try different things. I mean, obviously, I'm not an idiot. 1243 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I know you need to make enough money to pay 1244 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: for your life. But it's a great time to try 1245 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,560 Speaker 1: out different things and and and you know, get it, 1246 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: get exposed to new things. I agree, Joel Daniel. Do 1247 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on the matter. Yeah, it doesn't 1248 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: last forever. As soon as I turned thirty, suddenly it 1249 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, grab so many things and people to 1250 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 1: take care of. And yeah, I would say, if you're 1251 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna do the switch, do it, do it now, and like, 1252 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: just fully embrace it. I have a lot of friends 1253 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: who switched their careers around the same age as you 1254 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 1: are now, and like, it's a it's a hustle, but 1255 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: once you get there, oh man, what a joy to 1256 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: do the thing that you love. Like it's still worked. 1257 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: Don't let anyone tell you it's not work. It's still work, 1258 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,280 Speaker 1: but it is. It's better work. Yeah, and also, you know, 1259 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: your skills apply to so many different things, like even 1260 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: if you're not um, you know, specifically reaching out to 1261 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: people and talking about your experience being able to you know, 1262 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: use your accounting skills, use the skills you've learned in 1263 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: schools to help out an organization that does that already, 1264 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: and then including yourself into the story of what that 1265 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: organization does. It's a way to you know, start that 1266 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: transition into a new career without having to completely change 1267 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: your life. Oh my god, that's great, great, gonna say, 1268 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: come through, fantastic, Daniel, Daniel. Only one phrase comes to mind, 1269 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: you honor me. No, listen, by the way, Teddy, that 1270 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: was really that was better advice than I because you no, 1271 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: because it's smart, he's smart. What he's saying is, take 1272 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: your skill set, bring it to an organization that I'm 1273 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: just making it up, that that specifically caters to and 1274 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 1: helps families dealing with pediatric cancer, and say, hey, not 1275 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 1: only can I help with the face to face stuff 1276 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. I'm a survivor myself. I know 1277 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I no one has more empathy than me, but I 1278 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: can also bring my accounting skills set. Do you guys 1279 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: need that in your organization. I mean, you're you're a 1280 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: home run candidate for someone who could be working for 1281 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: an organization like that. That's great, Daniel, And let's let's 1282 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: also be real. It's like, in the sector of helping people, 1283 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: it's the area that has it has the least in 1284 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 1: terms of people who are like able to crunch numbers 1285 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 1: and people who know money and people who know business. 1286 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: It's like, so often those kinds of people and this 1287 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 1: is not a dig at those kind of people at all, 1288 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: or those kinds of work, but so often those people 1289 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: look for and move into huge companies, big money positions 1290 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And you know, certain organizations that 1291 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: need money or people that are good with money sometimes 1292 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: flounder in those scenarios because people who want to help 1293 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: people have the compassion but don't necessarily always have the 1294 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: business mind or the skill set. So I think you 1295 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: can be a huge asset to those companies. And also 1296 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,759 Speaker 1: think about it. If you're a parent or a child 1297 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: going through cancer and the young man counseling you is 1298 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: twenty four years old, super articulate, has the empathy and 1299 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: he went through it and survived, Think how think of 1300 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 1: the connection the young person would feel as opposed to 1301 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 1: some older senior citizen or someone they might not be 1302 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: able to relate to. That kid's gonna be like, oh 1303 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: my god, look at Teddy. He's he survived and he's 1304 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: great and he's thriving. And you'd be such a motivation 1305 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: to a young person. I think, Wow, I'm fired up, Teddy. 1306 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 1: All right. The good news is because you're an inspiration 1307 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 1: and because um we like you extra special amount, and 1308 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: in honor of Shirley phazons a visit, we are going 1309 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: to send you a case of GT's kombucha. Yeah, there 1310 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: is a tap at work of kombucha. I've not tried GTS, 1311 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to try. Well, Buddy. I see a 1312 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: fridge behind you, and what I like to do is 1313 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: stack mine up like I'm in a supermarket, and like 1314 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 1: so it looks all nean and a lined. It might 1315 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: be my ocd read by lind I like all my 1316 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 1: bottles stacked up neatly and with the labels facing out. 1317 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: You are getting a do we know what what? He's 1318 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: probably getting an array of flavors, right, Joel, Well, A 1319 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: little bit of everything, A sample sampler, A little sample 1320 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: a sample case. So thank you, thank you to the 1321 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: folks at GTS for that. And um and what can 1322 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 1: we say. What we say is you're welcome, Teddy, You're welcome. 1323 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. M I have no doubt that you're going 1324 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: to make a difference in people's lives. Donald and I 1325 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 1: go out and hopefully make people laugh a little bit 1326 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully take their mind off some shit. But you're 1327 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,879 Speaker 1: you're someone who's getting to really have a noticeable impact 1328 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: on people's lives. Yes, amen, surely, yes, don't don't don't 1329 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: be shy. You can talk. It's okay. Oh no, no, 1330 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: I'm not being shy. I think I think Teddy's going 1331 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 1: to make a tremendous contribution to UM. There's there's so 1332 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 1: many organizations you know, um that that do such great work. 1333 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: They send me letters every month to give contribution. M hm. 1334 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: And if Teddy, if Teddy changes his mind again and 1335 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,759 Speaker 1: wants the audition for the National Black Theater in Harlem, 1336 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: would there be any opportunity for him there? And hold on, now, 1337 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: don't get all crazy. They let white people do. All 1338 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: you gotta do is live in Harlem. And I thought 1339 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: it was an African American company you're saying you can 1340 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 1: be well, you can you can be white and be 1341 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 1: in the company. They do, they hope for you. You know, 1342 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: She's like, you can be white and be in the company. 1343 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: We need bad guys. But Teddy, it's true, that's true. 1344 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding or a great wife hope. All right? 1345 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,719 Speaker 1: That way, we'll wrap it up, Joel. What are we missing? 1346 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 1: What do we gotta tell people? Um? Not much? Really, 1347 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean we should. We should thank everybody for that 1348 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 1: live show show Holy cow man, Like we kept it 1349 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: up for a week and the response was amazing, and 1350 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 1: so thank you so much for thank you so much 1351 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 1: for watching. We're probably gonna we we we had a 1352 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of fun. We're talking about doing one in the 1353 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 1: summer again, right for some summer jam. I'm ready. And 1354 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 1: then I think we should have I think we have. 1355 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: We have Sarah and Johnny c on next one. We've 1356 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: got a lot of requests for those two to make 1357 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: up appearances again. So I definitely think we should do 1358 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: one with Sarah and Johnny CE. So so look for 1359 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: that information coming to you this summer. We should shout 1360 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: out all the people that are on the front lines, 1361 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, people that we don't talk about somebody hitting 1362 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: me up on the internet, and was like, you know, 1363 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: you got as always talk about the people that work 1364 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: in the hospital and stuff, but there are other people 1365 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,600 Speaker 1: on the front line that are I think we got this. 1366 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Our trash collectors who are still out here. Thank you. 1367 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Where would the world being without you? People who work 1368 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: in a grocery store, my god, saviors, thank you for 1369 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 1: keeping us stopped and fed. We appreciate you. Our teachers 1370 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: and cross guards, everyone who's works in school systems helping 1371 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: keep children educated when it's really scary to go outside 1372 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 1: of your house. Bless you. Thank you whom I missing. 1373 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: So many more, there are so many more. I just 1374 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 1: want you to know that if you're out there and 1375 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: you're fighting, you're helping us fight against COVID and keeping 1376 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 1: America or the world safe. We appreciate you to the max, 1377 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 1: like I can't tell you enough. I can't tell you enough. 1378 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Your contribution is definitely appreciated, and so thank you very much. 1379 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 1: I want to sit yes, thank you for that, And 1380 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: I want to say that the DGA Awards. Surely I'm 1381 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: nominated for a DG Award. Can you believe that's amazing? Amazing? 1382 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: They're April tenth, and um, I don't think we're going 1383 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 1: to record another show before then, right, Um no, send 1384 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: this the next Sunday. It's sorry, next Saturday. Okay, so 1385 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,280 Speaker 1: we won't. We're doing one a week for now, guys, 1386 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: because as you know, Donald and I are both working, 1387 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 1: and we'll come back with a episode rewatch for you 1388 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: next weekend. But um so, anyway, I've been working on 1389 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: my face because you know what the award shows. The 1390 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 1: camera's on you, it's going to be a zoom camera, 1391 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,800 Speaker 1: but they're gonna and you suppost if you don't win, 1392 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 1: you have to be happy for the other people. So 1393 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: I've been practicing that in case I do you do 1394 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: you want to see what it looks like? Yes? Yeah, 1395 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: all right, so Donald, you to say and the winner 1396 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 1: is not Zach Braf. Wait, what can I ask you 1397 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 1: a question? Who are you looking at when? Well? It's 1398 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,680 Speaker 1: funny because you know when normally, when you're in an 1399 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 1: audience and an award show, you look around your people 1400 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: around you and you're in the room by yourself right now, 1401 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,600 Speaker 1: I know, but my natural instinct as an actor was 1402 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: to act like I was looking around at my fellow 1403 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: audience members that he deserves. You know what I think 1404 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I combine that with a smile and a head nod. No, 1405 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: this is what I think. If you're going to do that, 1406 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 1: you need to make it so the camera is square 1407 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 1: up on your face like it is with me right now, 1408 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,760 Speaker 1: so when you look to the side, it's like situation. 1409 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,720 Speaker 1: You could even down probably okay, because you mean the 1410 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: zoom window will be all of us like this. Absolutely, 1411 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 1: that's funny. Okay, good, let me let me try it 1412 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: one more time. Okay, here we go, and the winner 1413 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: is Revel Wilson. I guess it's sort of a visual joke. 1414 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I think it would be better if you look disappointed. Okay, 1415 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 1: let me do a disappointed version and the and the 1416 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: winner is Diablo Cody disappointed money like everyone always does 1417 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the they deserve to win. I'm happy for them. Clad 1418 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 1: What if I just did it the other way? Like 1419 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 1: this is fucking an instant Twitter meme, and I threw 1420 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 1: something like through I dare you idle my table? What 1421 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: if I flipped my table? Don't do that. Don't don't 1422 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 1: do that. Don't do it, speaking of Diablo Cody. Speaking 1423 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 1: of Diablo Cody, she wrote power Puff and so I'm 1424 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 1: working with her right now. I did not know that. 1425 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so this job is so cool. 1426 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. So I'm all right excited 1427 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,439 Speaker 1: about that. Anyway, We love you. Please watch C Spiracy. 1428 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: You want to say something, Teddy, Teddy, I mean, yeah, 1429 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,920 Speaker 1: when I was going through chemo, it was over nine 1430 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 1: months and you know it's back in twenty fifteen, so 1431 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 1: I was winning scrub over but having that rewatch and 1432 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: having that, you know, I know you guys say how 1433 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: I was so thankful for it now, but I was 1434 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: so thankful for the show as it was going on 1435 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,600 Speaker 1: and having that through you know, my nine months a 1436 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: year of chemotherapy and surgery and all that, it was 1437 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 1: just such a helpful thing for me. It would helped 1438 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,000 Speaker 1: me connect with my doctors and nurses around me. So 1439 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I just think, I just thank you guys for what 1440 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: you guys did and what you guys continue to do today. 1441 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you man. That means a lot of us. 1442 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 1: I hope you know how much that means to us. 1443 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 1: It really does mean a lot, and it makes it 1444 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 1: all worth it. It makes you know, we just do 1445 01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: it to a camera and we don't have any idea. 1446 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: So to hear an anecdote like that from you, it 1447 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: means a great deal to us. So thank you so much, absolutely, 1448 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 1: and surely you are an awesome guest. I hope you'll 1449 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: come back and uh and visit us again. Talk about 1450 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,479 Speaker 1: your book, mom, Is there anything you want to plug? Oh? Yes, Um, 1451 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 1: so I wrote a workbook for actors. It's called Seven 1452 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 1: Rules to Thrive as a Performer and you can get 1453 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,600 Speaker 1: it on Amazon. It's a workbook, so it's um interactive, 1454 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 1: so you have to write things down. Um. Yeah, seven 1455 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Rules to Thrive as a Performer. Yes, yes, okay, Joelle. 1456 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: Joelle will put a link in our in our show notes, 1457 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 1: and Donald and I will put a link in our 1458 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 1: bios and we will. If you're an actor, this is uh, 1459 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 1: this could be hell. And it's a workbook, so it's 1460 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,679 Speaker 1: an interactive thing you have to participate in, so don't 1461 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: be lazy. You got to do the work. Yes, yes, 1462 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 1: all right, um that note on that note, we love 1463 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 1: you all. I'll have a great week, will say next time. 1464 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: Seven eight about show we made about a bunch of 1465 01:21:51,080 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 1: nurses story, So und do here a yeah around you 1466 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 1: here as wretch me watch your Wesa. Mm hmmmm