WEBVTT - Breaking News: 2024 Presidential Race Update

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, that debate was just twenty four days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like that, now Joe Biden is out of

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<v Speaker 1>the race. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not that long ago. How much has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in three weeks and a couple of days. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>will not be seeking a second term.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was shockingly shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe that's the best way to describe it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think a lot of people, if you were

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<v Speaker 3>following any of the news, we're anticipating this as we

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<v Speaker 3>saw more and more Democrats publicly privately leaked by sources

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<v Speaker 3>asking the president to step aside for the good of

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<v Speaker 3>the party, and so we were all kind of waiting,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet still when the news came on Sunday one

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<v Speaker 3>forty five or so Eastern time, it seemed to have

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<v Speaker 3>caught everyone off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they had to. I mean, can you imagine everything

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<v Speaker 1>leaks these days. Imagine what they were doing trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep this quiet. But he had some of his aids,

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<v Speaker 1>not just surrogates, some of his aids out there on

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<v Speaker 1>television just this weekend, almost pounding the table of He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere, which you're hearing nope, he's full steam ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of that and then some of the writing

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<v Speaker 1>was on the wall and a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 1>saying he had to make a decision this weekend, just

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<v Speaker 1>the timing of some things that are coming up that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into. But still, you're right, that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>way you put it. At the top, it was shockingly

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<v Speaker 1>like why are we shocked by this? But still it

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<v Speaker 1>just a jolt that he's not in this race anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>We got the news and quickly turned on the TV

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<v Speaker 3>and we were actually another I think good way to

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, why it was so shocking or just

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<v Speaker 3>that it was that is it seems that the networks

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<v Speaker 3>weren't prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, normally, this is a cat.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a huge, probably the biggest political story that

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<v Speaker 3>many of these political reporters have ever followed or covered.

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<v Speaker 3>So when a big story is dropping like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the big guns, all the big three network you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the anchors, they rushed to the studios and they get

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<v Speaker 3>in place and they take over the coverage because this

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<v Speaker 3>is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what journalists live for, these types of stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we turned on to each one of the networks,

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<v Speaker 3>none of the network stars were in place.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was ready.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not and again this is not a criticism

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<v Speaker 1>we're making it, but an observation being where we were from.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the biggest story of the year, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is some potential. You can say there's some top five

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<v Speaker 1>candidates out there, but this is absolutely one will be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest. And it hit and we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We went through every single network looking and no one

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<v Speaker 1>had I don't even want to say a B team

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<v Speaker 1>type of situation, but you know who the network stars are,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like folks weren't in place, and then

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<v Speaker 1>for hours and hours they weren't ready, still weren't in place.

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<v Speaker 1>But for Americans keeping on with the news, don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that matters, but that was our observation at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But this it didn't seem like we were on standby,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, for this news to come.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you always wonder how this news will come.

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<v Speaker 3>And so for the president to choose x formally known

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<v Speaker 3>as Twitter, that also, I think shook.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people too.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had he posted the letter that he wrote

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<v Speaker 3>to the American people saying that he will address it

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<v Speaker 3>publicly in a speech later this week, so we can

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<v Speaker 3>anticipate that, but it was an unusual way to even

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<v Speaker 3>release the news that he was dropping out of the

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<v Speaker 3>presidential race.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what that was like. And when we

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<v Speaker 1>got the news, I felt, I don't know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost a air came out, as if I felt a

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<v Speaker 1>little deflated, but almost a sigh of relief for him.

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<v Speaker 1>To a certain degree, every move he made over the

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<v Speaker 1>past three weeks was scrutinized as he's an old man

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<v Speaker 1>and his mind isn't sharp, So I hate this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who has fifty years in public office and

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<v Speaker 1>public service. You don't want them to go out this way.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it could have been worse down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, But just you hate it for the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>for his family. Who knows what was You can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was sad because he obviously then went on a

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<v Speaker 3>pr campaign, being interviewed by all the major networks, and

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<v Speaker 3>it just didn't do anything to move the needle. And

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, anyone's on social media, you can see the

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<v Speaker 3>memes that had been made by even some of those interviews,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's just got to be excruciating. Again, as

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<v Speaker 3>you point out, with his fifty years of service, his

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<v Speaker 3>dedication to this country. You know, you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>out on top of this one stings a lot, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know he wanted to fight the fight, but it

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<v Speaker 3>just he knew a certain point, he just didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the support.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the support. I mean, his statements didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. I mean his statement goes I think a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of paragraphs in depth about his accomplishments before he

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<v Speaker 1>says it's right for me to step aside. But they

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<v Speaker 1>were arguing for the past couple of weeks, certainly that

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is sharp and he was ready and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a fighter. And President Obama put out a statement saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what this guy does. He fights, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine what this process was like for him, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we know Joe always He's been getting hit

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<v Speaker 1>his whole life, hasn't he And he keeps getting up

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<v Speaker 1>and this is I don't know, this is just one

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't overcome.

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<v Speaker 3>My guy, Yeah, and I think you could look at

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<v Speaker 3>it as the brave thing to do, the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do, was to step aside. And then he thirty

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<v Speaker 3>minutes after the original statement that was put out, he

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<v Speaker 3>then decided to formally and officially endorse his vice president

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<v Speaker 3>to Kamala Harris. And so that was another big, big

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<v Speaker 3>headline that everyone jumped on. And so we heard then

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<v Speaker 3>from the Glintons and from you know, so you're starting

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<v Speaker 3>to see prominent Democrats now come out and endorse Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>But that does not mean that she is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the Democratic nominee. There are a lot of ifs

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<v Speaker 3>and what ifs and what may happen. There isn't really

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<v Speaker 3>precedent for this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and here we go, right, you have some Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>already now calling for they want President Biden to resign,

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<v Speaker 1>right if you can't continue to be a candidate. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that you throw that into the mix of Now

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are they going to coalesce? Are they going to

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<v Speaker 1>come together now around one candidate and not make this

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<v Speaker 1>a competition because it could become a competition. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton's endorsed. But President Obama and his statement seem to

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<v Speaker 1>well he didn't endorse for sure, but he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that the Democratic Party is now about to put

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<v Speaker 1>together a fair process moving forward. So that made a

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<v Speaker 1>few eyebrows go up. Is this president calling for a

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<v Speaker 1>fair convention, and is this one over here saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just all get behind.

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<v Speaker 3>Because right because, and we can find out which direction

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats are headed in within a pretty quick period

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<v Speaker 3>of time, because they have what's called a virtual role call,

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<v Speaker 3>and right now it's scheduled for early August.

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<v Speaker 1>Where what don't you say right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because everything could change. We know that.

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<v Speaker 3>And in fact, actually it's interesting we already know and

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<v Speaker 3>these types of headlines will keep rolling in that the

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee delegation has already chosen to vote for Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is an actual virtual roll call that takes

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<v Speaker 3>place where the delegates from each state then put in

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<v Speaker 3>their votes, and so that could be, you know, an

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<v Speaker 3>indication of where we're headed. They could also wait until

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<v Speaker 3>the convention in Chicago, which is August nineteenth, it begins then,

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<v Speaker 3>and actually go through a process like they did back

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<v Speaker 3>in the olden days, where that is how they elected

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<v Speaker 3>their nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want that now, I say, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that as a It's great theater, right, but it's been

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<v Speaker 1>such a chaotic time. I would love to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I would love to just see, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>never had anything like that in our lifetimes, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they used to do it. But that is the

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<v Speaker 1>process you described. So any of you out there who

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<v Speaker 1>went and voted for Joe by and in the primary

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<v Speaker 1>he earned all of those delegates, well all those delegates

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<v Speaker 1>now are up for grabs to anybody, and he can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell anybody what to do. So everybody has a choice

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<v Speaker 1>of what they can do and where they're going to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can all come together around Kamala, Harris or Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody else going to get in the race because

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<v Speaker 1>they can't.

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<v Speaker 3>No one has officially, but there are already names being

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<v Speaker 3>floated out there for potential other nominees.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, to say the top two, I think we're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same Governor Gavin Newsom, of course, who by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>said before this process started that he had sub zero interest, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe was the phrase he used in running for president.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means he's thinking about it, right, It means.

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<v Speaker 2>That the door's open.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one that caught my eye was

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<v Speaker 3>Governor Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are two.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the two, and you know there are some

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<v Speaker 3>prominent governors throughout the States. But yes, if you google this,

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<v Speaker 3>there are already there's probably a growing list of seven

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<v Speaker 3>folks that could potentially be in competition with Vice President

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean she was.

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<v Speaker 3>You could make the argument a part of the ticket

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<v Speaker 3>that won that nomination Farren Square and so that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big argument that that should be considered or

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<v Speaker 3>at least be a part of it. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who has had a lot of first the

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<v Speaker 3>first female vice president, but she would be the first

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<v Speaker 3>black woman and the first Asian American to lead a

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<v Speaker 3>ticket of any major political party.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's huge, That's history, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That is where a lot of people are arguing she

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<v Speaker 1>can at least motivate the base in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Joe Biden could not. Thus, others will say, you

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<v Speaker 1>will there's some downsides to her as well, as they

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<v Speaker 1>show in their polling. The argument now, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats wouldn't have the stomach for a fight, a big

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<v Speaker 1>convention fight, or or anybody trying to take on Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>or for the party to have the appearance of we

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<v Speaker 1>have this woman of color as VP. She's next in line,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to try to skip over her US

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat. That's not a good look. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look good either if you just anoint her. And if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like you have an open process, how

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to find that balance?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I wonder how much you know, And obviously

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton are two different people. But

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<v Speaker 3>the last time a woman went up against President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>in a presidential race, the only time that's happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump won the delegates.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course we should point out Hillary Clinton did win

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<v Speaker 3>the popular vote, but you know, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking at that too. There's always a concern about

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<v Speaker 3>can a woman beat Trump? And the polling now.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't look you know that as it stands now. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've been running the numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was probably part of Joe Biden's He thought

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<v Speaker 3>he was the best person to beat Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he beat him once. Yeah, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>always think that he had to be thinking to the

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<v Speaker 1>very end that up into the last moment, that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be in this. But some reporting

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<v Speaker 1>for Washington Posts that he did make the decision on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night we're talking here on Sunday, the actual day

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<v Speaker 1>he made the announcement, but he had made up his

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<v Speaker 1>mind on Saturday night and didn't call the Vice president

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<v Speaker 1>and tell her until Sunday on this day.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pesky leaks.

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<v Speaker 3>You tell one person, they tell one person, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it just goes from there. But yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>there was also some mention that he still says his

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<v Speaker 3>mental acuity is sharp and he's prepared and able to

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<v Speaker 3>lead and continue for the next four years, but that

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<v Speaker 3>out of COVID he got knocked him down, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said he just physically, I think people around U said

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<v Speaker 3>physically felt so tired and didn't know if he could

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<v Speaker 3>physically take on the challenge of the campaign that was

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's had a night exhausting, just and almost disastrous. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we could argue that now three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half weeks now after that debate and he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do the damage control. I actually thought the ones we

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<v Speaker 1>got a little distance, and today, you know, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>back on track within every public he did a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of interviews, nothing work. He did at press conference, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work. He had several missteps and calling people the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong name and just did every little thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh again, some major guests calling people the wrong name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was tough.

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<v Speaker 3>But also think about this other this other debate is

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled for September tenth, so he was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>facing a second debate. Can you imagine the pressure that

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<v Speaker 3>that would have been for him?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>So that will be of interest and hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>if that debate stands on that day, given all of

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<v Speaker 3>the tumult and the changes, but you got to think

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's got to be preparing for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But how we haven't seen this on July twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>in one August twenty second is when the Democratic nominee

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to make a speech in Chicago in one

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<v Speaker 1>month and a day, and we don't know who the

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<v Speaker 1>nominee is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but you got to think that people will who

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<v Speaker 3>believe they had a shot were already prepared, like they

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<v Speaker 3>knew that this was possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But who's going to jump in this race?

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<v Speaker 3>Can't?

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough because the Democrats and the names that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there are people who are the things are going

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<v Speaker 1>well for right right in a prominent names who maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just sit this one out, and then I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the Enter Party fighting anybody who would sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>being the person that causes more tumult in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's yeah, and by that reasoning alone,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it makes sense that Kamala Harris is almost

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<v Speaker 3>certainly going to be the nominee and we have to.

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<v Speaker 1>And it will turn the page soon enough. But the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of that history, yeah, matter what, that is remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>to think.

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<v Speaker 2>It truly is.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is another list already forming online as well,

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<v Speaker 3>who her, if it were Kamala, her vice presidential candidate

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<v Speaker 3>would be. And that all has to be decided in

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<v Speaker 3>lightening speed time. I mean, think about the vetting process

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<v Speaker 3>that usually takes place is going to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be on hyper speed now.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>But some of those some of those names too were

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<v Speaker 3>also I saw Whitmer's name on there, Kentucky Governor Andy Basher,

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, Oh yeah, I saw that name floated.

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<v Speaker 3>A new North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper. So yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a that's a growing list as well. So so much

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<v Speaker 3>political theater out there now that I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like anything most of us have ever seen in

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<v Speaker 3>our lifetimes and certainly in our career.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you exhausted yet of the theater? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Not? Actually, this is to me, this actually feels more

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<v Speaker 3>interesting than just the way it's been done. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's now a different kind of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been sad to watch, but also potentially re energizing.

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<v Speaker 3>You see, you know, just the gosh, the near miss

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<v Speaker 3>with former President Trump and what that's done for the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican Party and the enthusiasm around him, and then now

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<v Speaker 3>you've got this dramatic change in the Democratic Party. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like nothing I have ever missed before. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's more to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted, and I have the dates here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I am Politics is difficult enough when you just

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<v Speaker 1>got two Canada's just duking it out. But we've had trials,

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<v Speaker 1>mental acuity exams, we're trying to get, we got, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got gun fire, we got.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a lot. So May thirtieth, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened on May thirtieth, not far from where we sit.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was convicted of a thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I remember exactly where we were when we

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<v Speaker 3>watched it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty four felonies. This was on May thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane. And look where we are now two months later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so we talk about the June twenty seventh of debate.

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<v Speaker 1>July first, the Supreme Court grants they rule on the

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<v Speaker 1>presidential immunity, So a win for Trump there. You move

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to July the thirteenth, an assassination attempt. We just

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<v Speaker 1>had the RNC. Now they got to dismiss the classified

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<v Speaker 1>documents trial down in Florida, and now Biden is out

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<v Speaker 1>of the race. I'm just I know, get back to

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<v Speaker 1>normal fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>November can't come soon enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh goodness gracious. But yeah, it's going to turn now

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<v Speaker 1>to that debate about whether they can coalesce around her.

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<v Speaker 1>For us, what do we do? You can't vote again,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no more primaries. Voting is not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really is just a matter of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with the Democrats. Are they going to just rally around

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<v Speaker 1>her vote she needs. Where they have about four thousand delegates,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs about nineteen hundred or so of them. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get too caught up in the math, but they could

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<v Speaker 1>in the role call if they do it give her

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<v Speaker 1>enough votes, and so we know going into the convention

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to be the candidate. If we have to

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<v Speaker 1>go into August nineteenth and she doesn't have enough delegates, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes no sense for the Democratic Party. Maybe might want

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<v Speaker 3>to speed up that virtual role call. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a very busy political season like none

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<v Speaker 3>we've ever seen. Just since we've been recording this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines just keep coming and coming. This is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be, as you put it, in exhausting next couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks and months.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the headline that just surprised me. And who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if this is true, but seeing in reporting that they

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<v Speaker 1>have sources that someone is potentially interested in getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the race to compete for the Democratic nomination. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that, and then you hear who it is

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<v Speaker 1>and what's it going to take for him to get

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<v Speaker 1>the nomination, and you it's got your head a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And also his age, because that was such a huge

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<v Speaker 3>part of this campaign. How old are two options were?

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<v Speaker 3>And certainly Joe Biden's age in his mental acuity. Senator

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Manchin of West Virginia. He's seventy six years old

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<v Speaker 3>and according to sources, according to CNN, is considering a

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<v Speaker 3>run for president. He's an independent. By the way, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not even a registered Democrat, so he would have to

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<v Speaker 3>reregister his political affiliation to being a Democrat to even

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to be considered for the nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people considered him a king maker

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<v Speaker 1>but also a nuisance to a certain degree and the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate because he but he still does caucus with the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>and he oftentimes was one who could wield a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of power and a lot of folks had to bow

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<v Speaker 1>to his will and where his vote was going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So to hear that he could potentially get in the

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<v Speaker 1>race and to be willing to, I mean, how are

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<v Speaker 1>people going to receive a guy who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not well. But let's let's watch and see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens with that. Also, this headline not a big surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is going to be a lot more to

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<v Speaker 3>come with this. Trump allies already putting out attack ads

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<v Speaker 3>against Kamala Harris in four of those battleground states, saying

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<v Speaker 3>that she covered up Joe Biden's They say obvious mental

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<v Speaker 3>decline because she put out statements saying that he was

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<v Speaker 3>good to go, and she was proudly standing by him.

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<v Speaker 3>So they are already taking they're not wasting any time

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<v Speaker 3>taking shots at Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>They were ready, you know that they were ready. Those

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<v Speaker 1>ads were ready to go as soon as this day came.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is going to be a line of attack, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that you are probably going to hear pretty consistently. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious how loud it's going to get. But the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the administration, the Biden administration, his people, his handler's

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<v Speaker 1>him were a part of a cover up, a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the condition of the president from the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be a big storyline, or a

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<v Speaker 1>big line of attack, I should say. And they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you you trust her, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what she was a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we already saw that on Fox News earlier today.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yes, the ads were ready to launch, and

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<v Speaker 3>there will be many, many more of them, and that

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<v Speaker 3>will be yes, the theme we will hear over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again because, as you pointed out, so many of

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's wins and this was you know, had been a

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<v Speaker 3>very good stretch for him, had been pointing the finger

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<v Speaker 3>at Joe Biden's mental decline.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his big ata. So now you've got someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>where do you go now from here?

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<v Speaker 3>Will you attack her for knowing something that they were

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<v Speaker 3>alleging the entire time?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the first time in a while that

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about Democrats in a potentially positive way

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in this election cycle, certainly since the sense of the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>But every bit of news was negative. Every bit of

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<v Speaker 1>news was about his decline, every bit of news about

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<v Speaker 1>people want him, wanting him to get out. And Trump

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 1>had win after when after win. Yes, he was shot,

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<v Speaker 1>that was absolutely awful and barely escaped with his life

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<v Speaker 1>by depending on who he asked, a millimeter or an inch.

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<v Speaker 1>But he won court cases, he accepted the nomination, he

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<v Speaker 1>had the big coronation, he was He just had win

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<v Speaker 1>after win after when. And now Democrats are talking about

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 1>something other than Joe Biden's decline. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>now on that side having a nominee that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make history.

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<v Speaker 3>So the attack ads will grow and they will be vicious.

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 3>And we already heard Trump as well on social media.

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 3>He did not waste any time jumping in and reacting

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 3>to Joe Biden's decision to drop out of the race.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he was ready as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And again more to come on that one. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be any surprise. And one of the

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 3>other headlines we heard Jill Biden, she just reportedly said

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<v Speaker 3>that she stands with whatever her husband decides, and she

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<v Speaker 3>had told him that from the beginning that she was

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<v Speaker 3>there to support him and was not trying to have

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<v Speaker 3>any weight on his decision. She just said she was

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<v Speaker 3>standing by his side and would help him throughout whatever

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<v Speaker 3>decision he made. So we're just we'll hear more from her.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure once she makes some more public appearances. She's

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled to go to Paris later in the week. She'll

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<v Speaker 3>be representing the White House at the Olympics, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure she will be faced with some questions and will

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<v Speaker 3>have some.

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<v Speaker 2>More to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You know she has, I mean, you can only imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said she has always been his closest adviser,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I know she was a part of and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one thing, it's close advisers and all

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>these political folks he has around him. I am sure

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 1>he said things to her that he hadn't said to

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>anybody else on the planet. I am sure she knows

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>things about this decision and what went into it that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else will ever understand, and she has been by

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts. I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>job of the first lady. Sometimes I say it's thankless.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I think it's ceremonial. But she is, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>adds to a long list of first ladies that I

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<v Speaker 1>would applaud, and the line of first ladies. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people fantasy is that Michelle Obama would jump into

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<v Speaker 1>the race. There is no indication anywhere, anywhere, in any

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<v Speaker 1>corner that I have seen or heard publicly or priat

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<v Speaker 1>that is on the table. And you know what, she

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<v Speaker 1>seems way too smart for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well she shout it down and I believed her like

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<v Speaker 3>and every time she has. You know, sometimes we always

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<v Speaker 3>laugh when politicians say I don't have any you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm going to run. They always leave

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<v Speaker 3>a door open. She shut it, closed it, locked it

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<v Speaker 3>dead bolted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kamala Harris, which is who is now getting support.

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<v Speaker 1>Some delegates are coming out from members of DNC, coming

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<v Speaker 1>out and put a letter together saying officially they do

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<v Speaker 1>support her. You will see more and more of that

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<v Speaker 1>if you forget politics for a second, if you just

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<v Speaker 1>love your country and are proud of your country, forget

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<v Speaker 1>politics and what you think about people's stances on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you can't deny that. It's just cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see your country progress to a point where we had

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<v Speaker 1>a black man as president not too terribly long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first, and potentially could have the first

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<v Speaker 1>woman president. You'll have the first woman to get the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic nomination, all this potential history. That part is just cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a political statement. That is only a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of watching and going wow, I guess we're getting somewhere here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, finally, it's been a long time. Yes, not only

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<v Speaker 3>would she be the first woman, obviously, she would be

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<v Speaker 3>the first black woman, the first Asian American.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's going to excite a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of it who already or behind maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>ticket of the Biden Harris ticket. Still, the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>being a part of that movement, that history a younger

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<v Speaker 1>group is going to be appealing to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just that's no matter what, you're proud of

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<v Speaker 1>your country when you see history made agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I do you know, you do wonder and not

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<v Speaker 3>to be the synec here or to be Debbie Downer,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm going to throw this out there because Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden made a very difficult, hard decision. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>he said publicly and reiterated that he thought he was

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<v Speaker 3>the best person to defeat Donald Trump. So he steps

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<v Speaker 3>aside to day among so much pressure out there from

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<v Speaker 3>his colleagues, and he endorses Kamala Harris. Now, what happens

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<v Speaker 3>if Kamala Harris doesn't win? And what does Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 3>What do Democrats feel about their decision to pressure him

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<v Speaker 3>to step down and to endorse Kamala Harris. So you've

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<v Speaker 3>got all these potential first, but you've also you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you wonder what will happen to the party and to

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<v Speaker 3>all of those decisions if it turns out Trump wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's there's no guarantee. I mean, it's this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds outside of politics and just life that does the

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<v Speaker 1>result still mean does whether or not his decision was

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<v Speaker 1>a good, good one? Hinge on whether or not the

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<v Speaker 1>result is the one he thinks it should be. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think there's a chance that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>still thinks he's the best guy to take on Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's changed at all, probably in his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he felt like when he got so much

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<v Speaker 3>pressure from so many folks, I think he felt like

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<v Speaker 3>it was the right thing to do for the party.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know that he thinks it was the

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<v Speaker 3>right thing to do for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So we shall see. So, Yes, it's very possible that

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<v Speaker 1>she wins, he trounces, She gives the Democrats a better chance.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a good chance she gets trounced worse than Biden. Ever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine. I don't know. But does that mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad call, a bad choice? At this point? Some

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<v Speaker 1>would argue, is Trump even going to be beatable by

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<v Speaker 1>either one of those candidates? And you got to consider

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<v Speaker 1>she still has a decision a vice president to make.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be another big moment in this campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be watching, We'll be sharing our thoughts with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just guess we should all buckle up.

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