WEBVTT - GTBT__1_14.mp3 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:12.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cow This is Girls 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.520 Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisilne, trusted by over five 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.479 hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, and broadcasting live 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.760 from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your host, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.159 Nicole Hutchison, What. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.120 Up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.559 presented by vis Line. Here in the SWBC studio, I'm 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.680 your host, Nicole Hutcheson alongside Ayisha Morrison, Jessnavars, and we. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.000 Got a newkir Yeah, we got it yea in the House. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.879 Of Aldridge, Sporty anchor reporter for CBS here. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:52.640 Dallas. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.520 Tell us some about tell us about yourself, because a 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:56.720 lot of people don't know. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:02.840 Well, I've been a little bit of everywhere West Virginia, Louisiana, Colorado, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.160 and Buffalo was my last stop, Buffalo Bills, and now 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.119 I'm here having a very interesting first season with the Cowboys, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.280 because it's been not boring since I've been here. It 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:21.360 won't ever be wait to describe it. That's very nice nuts, big. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.240 Change obviously coming from Buffalo, and now you're here in 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.880 Dallas coaching change as well. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:28.680 Wood. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:35.039 Yeah, right, so I'm really good than. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.760 All right, Mike McCarthy is now out as the Dallas 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.160 Cowboys head coach, so the search begins here in Dallas. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.840 And I know that Mike McCarthy the Dallas Cowboys have 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.559 been catching strays the last couple of days, because well. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.960 The last day or so. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.360 And I don't like it. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.400 I don't like you because I mean, granted, Mike McCarthy 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.520 wasn't perfect. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.680 But he had a lot of success here. He was 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.000 great the guys here. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.360 And he was just a great guy in the building 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.440 as far as just being nice to the people here, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:08.760 myself welcoming me. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.120 And when I came in as a reporter last year. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.720 What are some good things before we break down this 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:18.480 whole the other stuff, What are some things some interactions 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.679 that you had with Micha McCarthy that you do want 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.639 him to be remembered by, because again, he has been 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.120 catching a lot of strays on Twitter. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.760 Now, like the best story I have about Mike. If 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.560 you have children watching this, please cover. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.640 Their ears because I may or may not spoil some surprises. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.000 It was around Christmas time, and so there's your hint. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.760 If you're a parent with a child listening. And Mike 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:49.000 had made a comment in the press conference about Santa 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.880 and alluding to he has younger kids, alluding to how 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:01.480 his adults responsibilities is a parent, and you know Santa 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.560 was coming to visit, and he thought about it so 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.360 much because you know, it was a big joke in 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.000 the press conference. But he goes back to make sure 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.520 PR comes and tell us like, hey, don't put that anywhere. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.520 Don't post it because it was a funny moment from PR. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.480 They're like, Mike doesn't want that anywhere because he doesn't 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.840 want his kids to know the secret that he is. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.640 You know, yeah, I just don't want kids to be 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:26.240 watching And. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.120 Me ruined this for anybody, But to me, it was 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:35.680 always family football, and to me that that instilled and 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.200 even what he put in the players was take care 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.680 of yourself, take care of your family. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.920 Football's here. But he was a very big family guy. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.760 I also remember during the Eras tour week I had 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:46.920 asked if his daughters were going. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.280 I was like, you need friendship bracelets, Mike. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:50.720 You good. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.440 But overall I really do wish him well because the 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.920 interactions I've had with him were always really positive, even 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.000 during tough questions after tough classes, And he never made 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.280 me feel dumb for asking a question. And I think 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.200 as a woman in this business, that's something you run 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:13.240 across a lot, unfortunately, from people everywhere. And Mike never 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.760 once made me feel stupid for asking any kind of question, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.800 whether it was a basic football question or something. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.640 I kind of noticed. He was very poised in answering. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.839 Any questions, So I appreciate that from him, sir, kind 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.760 of pigging back off that. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.920 The biggest thing I think is just respect in the 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.680 media room. I've been in multiple medium rooms and you 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.840 don't always get that, male or female. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:34.200 Right. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.840 When you lose five games in a row and you 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.599 go downhill like that, it's easy to kind of shut 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.200 down and walk off the podium. He never did that. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.159 You know, he kind of took some shots too. I 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:51.240 remember that controversial locker room with Michael Parsons, right, that 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.040 could have won either way, but I think he handled 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.520 it very well. Anything from Jerry Jones' comments that came 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.600 back that might have, you know, got spun a little 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.760 bit like. He handled it like a champ. He went 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.040 up there and he was trying to win games. And 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.719 I think that back half of the season really speaks 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.840 to what Mike McCarthy was all about. He really, I 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.560 think everyone here could agree he did not lose that 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.560 locker room. You know, ceedee lambs out there playing with 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.280 the really hurt shoulder when they have nothing to win 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.919 at that point. I think it speaks a lot. But 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.640 I'm definitely just the respect that aspects what I'm going 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:20.880 to remember about Mike Lncthudy. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.839 Yeah, I'm kind of similar to you ladies, kind of 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.800 standing in that same realm. I think for me personally, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.679 my best experiences with him as someone that is still 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.960 very much so learning this game in depth and stuff 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.599 and trying to sharpen my film study and master my craft. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.520 His willingness to teach me offline in moments and even 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.480 in press conferences if I mentioned a question he wanted 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.000 to talk football, so he would talk. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.200 Football back to me, reassure. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.599 Me I'm on the right track, which is a lot 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.880 of things like that's reassuring as well, like Hey, my 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.400 film studies being validated by one of the best minds 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:01.279 in this game like that continue to help me, you know, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.080 want to continue to get better and just to take 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.280 some of his teaching and some of the other coaches 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.200 teaching has helped me to be a better analyst for 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.400 you guys and to be you know, better on this show. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.960 So that's not something that I take lightly as well. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.559 So yeah, that mentorship, little bit of mentorship I've gotten 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.000 from him, is something I really value in my career. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.720 Yeah, I like to figure back all that as well. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.359 But I'll never forget the time that I was grabbing coffee. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.760 This was like week three, I think. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.800 Yeah, I was early in the season this year, because 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.560 again I remember I started with October. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.880 Second October last year. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.080 October doesn't matter, it's all the same, all right. And 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.560 so I was grabbing coffee and he comes behind me. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.640 He's like, hey, Nicole, right, and I was like, wow, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.280 head coach knows my name. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.839 Man, I'm moving up in the world. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.560 Uh No, but he we I never really talked like 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.600 about myself obviously to head coach mich McCarthy has at 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.760 so many things on his mind on his plate, but 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.800 he was just asking me like, oh, where are you from. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.600 I haven't you know, just talked to you one on one, like, 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.760 you know, how's your parents did it out? 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.040 Just being so nice right, And then one thing he 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.200 had told me was like, I know that a lot 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.520 of people may not notice your work, but your work 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:13.760 it doesn't go unnotice. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.680 You're doing a good job here. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.239 And so I was like, wow, I'm the head coach. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:18.400 I love it here. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.120 But no, he's he's been great since I got here 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:22.800 last year. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.200 So wishing nothing but the best for Mike McCarthy. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.880 But now it is time to talk some ball and 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.240 coaching options. 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.320 But let's start with this. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.200 We're y'all shocked at all about Mike McCarthy in the 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.040 news that you guys heard yesterday that he would not 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.760 be returning back here as the Cowboys head coach. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:47.559 No, the only part I was shocked about was the timing. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.960 They weren't even do a no talk. They wouldn't even negotiations. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.840 That's the part that said me. I thought he was 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:54.560 gonna stay. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:59.040 I given just kind of the energy and just how 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.760 things felt, I thought that maybe that he wouldn't be here. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.560 But the biggest thing that the only part that surprised me, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.720 like him leaving didn't surprise me, It was the they 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.600 didn't even talk about no numbers. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.800 I said, oh yeah, y'a even do mediation, even divorce. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.880 Listen, not the mediation. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:20.760 I'm just saying. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.240 I was like, I think, honestly, I'm gonna flipp it 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.040 a little bit. I think what I think Garry Jones 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:33.480 was surprised. That's what I think. I think he this 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.520 is the Dallas Cowboys. Everybody wants to be here. I've 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.520 been praising Mike McCarthy up and down, even though he 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.040 you know, at the end of the day, the numbers 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.280 aren't there. This is not the Dallas Cowboys. Expectations were 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.520 not met. But I'm gonna just I'm gonna you know, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.080 they've been they were friendly the entire time. Anytime you 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.920 you know, see them in the building, their lafe and dad, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.160 I'm gonna just sneak this over m and Marthy and 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.480 his agent, who is very well known in this business. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.280 That's not good enough. And that's why I feel like 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.040 we're talking about what we're talking about. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:09.520 Yeah, I'm gonna say I wasn't surprised, And after the 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.319 news hit, I kind of went back and I was 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.480 telling you shawd this. Earlier I was kind of looking 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.000 at press conferences from Mike and kind of comparing them 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.839 to even last year. Something felt different from his side, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.040 And I'm not saying he was checked out or whatever, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.000 like it just felt very different. And I think there 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.600 was maybe a straw that broke the camel's back for 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.559 Mike and the decision was made. But I wasn't surprised. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.640 And you know, putting it in human terms of our 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.439 day to day and work, if you're Mike McCarthy kind 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.240 of having to deal with the stuff that he deals 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.679 with and the span to which he deals with it 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.360 being the Cowboys head coach, Yep, that's gonna get old 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.480 real quick. And he's handled it with grace. And I 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.800 think enough could only be enough so much and you 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.640 get where you get. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.080 And yeah, I wasn't surprised. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.440 Yeah, I'm a teeter on both lines. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.840 Yeah, because I'm because teeter. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.080 Yeah, I was only surprised just because of how long 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.200 it took for them to finally come to a conclusion 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.920 that this was not something that both either parties wanted 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.000 to be a part of. I think that, But then again, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.640 you have to look at like all the contracts and 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.920 the delays and the long time that it takes for 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.640 these guys to finally make decisions. So it's like, am 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.640 I surprised, not really, but I was also not surprised 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:37.239 just because I mentioned this Tobree yesterday. Is that this organization, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.160 the front office, wants to get back to the success 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.720 that they've had in the nineties, like the five Super 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.079 Bowls that they've won here. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:45.960 They want to get back to that success. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 And whether it's with Mike McCarthy or not, they want 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:50.400 to figure out immediately. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:56.240 And unfortunately it's not Mike McCarthy, but there's. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.760 Some other options out there that they're obviously teetering around, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.240 maybe possibly killing more. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.520 That name has been thrown around. I know you're looking 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:03.080 at me like. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.319 I don't, Like I wanted. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.880 To say, don't do this? 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:08.280 Do they? 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.800 Though, don't I'm. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.280 A familiar face, do they? 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.520 I'm not talking about the Kellen Moore thing I'm talking about. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.800 I'm talking about the sister I'm talking about the they 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.839 want to get back to winning in the nineties. So 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.840 that also that, Yeah, now I feel like I'm sorry, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.600 I feel like I'm being gas lit. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.840 I'm sorry, a little triggered. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:29.920 The door. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.960 The door, all right, y'all just got no I mean, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:36.440 I would hope so. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.560 Uh huh, well, actions and words, I mean, what are 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:41.880 the expectations, well. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.400 The expectations is to get past the first round in 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.160 the playoffs. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.760 But baby, if you're gonna go good on good, you 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:48.600 need more good. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.560 So you got to be aggressive and free agency, you 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.160 gotta you have to get. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.120 You They put enough stress on the draft. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.000 I mean, you gotta be able to do the things 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.600 that obviously other teams do to. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.360 Get you over the hump. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.559 Like it might work regular season, but when you get 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.079 to the playoffs, is. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.200 You're going to gets the best. So it's like, do 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.960 you really because you didn't set this coaching staff up 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.840 for success this year. We understand that there's plenty of injuries, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.480 but let's says what's up. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.640 Vision have been more depth to combat most of those injuries, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:21.240 and there wasn't. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.240 So I mean, what you really want to do, I'm 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:26.880 not fussing. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.040 Can go back to the Let's get back to the 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.040 let's go back to that. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:37.520 I on Kellen Moore, the news about the possibility of Keen. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:46.480 Babe, let her, let her house, letty. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.440 Kellen Moore. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:52.199 Yes, if you know me, you know what I think 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:56.840 about it. If you don't know me, here's what I'm 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.520 gonna say. Is when Kellen was here as OC. I 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.920 had a lot of conversations with guys that are either 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.360 currently or no longer in that locker room, and when 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.880 his time was coming to a close, I'm not going 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.040 to be like they celebrated. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.000 They were happy about it. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.760 They were ready to move on from the Kellen Moore 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:20.080 OC chapter is how I will put it. So for me, yeah, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.560 there's been some development in him as an OC, and 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.440 there should be because that's a natural progression of a 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.400 good coach. I just don't I think if you if 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.080 you want to go back to your sorry breeze up 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.720 here fighting the demon, if you want to go back 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.560 to what Nicole said of all in to actually win, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:42.320 it's not it. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:43.800 I'm sorry, it's not it. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.000 I do want to say I agree with them not 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.079 doing anything in free agency. They did not do anything 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.560 to set this team up for Yes, however, yeah, I 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.880 do believe they want to give back to their winning 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:54.839 ways again. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.160 That starts with actions and words. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:58.960 Like actions and. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.439 Words, that's the best to put it. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.400 Yeah, it just make sure I no, no disclimer, I'm 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:04.119 just saying. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.160 You're you're telling me the guy who's only been an 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.600 offensive coordinator, a backup quarterback in this league can come 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.600 in as a first year head coach and win over 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.040 the thirty year hump or curse. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.120 Whatever you want to call it. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:25.760 Here curse in the building like I'm sorry, I can't 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:27.720 which I'm just not gonna do it. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.360 What you have punish, Let's see, let's see those dudes. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.760 You don't have to fight him anymore. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.200 Nicole said, yesterday I made her come on CBS eleven. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.160 Yes, we saw that. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.920 You look crazy natural. I was hitting you great. Wow. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.000 But the last thing that she how I actually ended 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:47.520 my story was you know, Micha McCarthy's out, but it's 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.520 time for a new beginning. That's what stuck out. That's 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.080 how I ended it. I was like, ah, right, it's 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.760 the new year. It's twenty twenty five. They want to 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.280 get back to their winning ways. There's a saying, if 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.160 it ain't broke, don't fix it. It is broke. The 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.640 offense is boring to watch. I was bored and I 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:11.520 was jealous talk their other teams going viral for sister, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.520 and I was just like, man, I wish we did that. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.600 I wish ah, and then I do there they go 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.120 running the same route, you know what I mean? Like 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:29.120 it was boring. I personally wasn't against Mike McCarthy at all. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.680 Coming back. I wanted Mike McCarthy to be open to 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.400 letting somebody else come in here, be creative, and then 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.960 you get to stay in Dallas. You get to look 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.440 creative and as the head coach, just like when things 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.360 go wrong and you take the fault, you can you're 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.440 the hero now. And that's what other teams are okay 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.320 doing and that is not what happened here. And I 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.680 think Kellen Moore, I've heard back and forth, you know, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.760 and I know the relationships matter with the Joneses, but again, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.720 this is the time to be creative and take a chance. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.800 And I know there's a lot of safe candidates out 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.760 there that have been throwing around because they have proven 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.120 to be winners. But so was McCarthy when I was 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.120 in high school. He won a Super Bowl and that 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.160 a lot of coaches ended and can't say they ever wanted. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.680 Players in this building are still trying to, you know, 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.040 have another year at it because they want to leave 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.760 and hang it up and say they've won a super Bowl. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.400 But I just think going back to things that have 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.480 kind of already been tried and not putting him in 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.320 the head honcho position. Maybe not like, let's take a chance, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.840 be creative and go after some younger candidates, and I'm 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.640 scared that's not going to be what's going to happen. Yep. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.600 Absolutely, I wanted to comment very quickly piggyback off of 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.520 your point about Mike McCarthy and possibly giving up play 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.320 call into someone that's just a little because the thing 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.280 about Mike McCarthy that I felt like we ran into 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:48.680 this year. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.200 I don't think Mike McCarthy is. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.640 A bad play caller, but there is something to be 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.760 said about feel and the Cowboys. Out of the five 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.880 years four years he was here, one of the worst 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.560 quarter teams in the NFL, there was never a counter 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.440 to the counter. That was a problem for me also 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.240 to some of the When I say feel, I mean 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.080 you should be able to feel how serious this drive is. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.520 You need to get into your best place, you need 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.399 to have your guys ready. Cowboys been one of the 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.520 most penalized teams under Mike McCarthy as well, So it's 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.359 also like that conglomerate of things put together. But for me, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.080 it's also too like I think that we would be 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.919 asking Mike McCarthy a lot, because I'm. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.480 Like, yeah, just bring a new OC, just bring in 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:32.200 somebody innovative. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.160 And I'm like, well, if you were in the spot 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.120 there where Mike McCarthy is, where he can go out 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.160 on Thursday and say, hey, this kid is not gonna play, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.879 and then Friday the owners on their radio saying that 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.480 the person's gonna play. He's already given up so much power, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.280 like we're asking him. These head coaches like to have 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.919 their thumbprint on what is happening for their team, and 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.520 he's already giving up so much power. So I think 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.399 that's why he was not willing to renege on his 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.200 OC play calling. And I'm gonna keep it a thousand. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.800 I don't know if anyone's ever said it, but I'm 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.399 gonna say it. I remember how press conferences were with 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.440 Kellen Moore, how difficult it was to get him to 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.959 talk football to us, how difficult it was to have 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.320 some of these conversations to gain information and stuff like that. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.240 And I understand, like there's something to be said. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:20.920 As a head coach, you have to be able to 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.920 galvanize and lead men and have the maturity. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:24.439 To do that and have. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.080 The diversity in your thinking to do that. And for me, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.080 I didn't see people as es piggybacked on. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:35.040 That was our first year. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.840 We're in the locker room, We're hearing these conversations. I 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.800 don't know what his ability to galvanize a locker room 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.040 to follow him is like. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.200 And that does come with. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.879 Time and maturity and experiences and things like that. And 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.159 that's why a lot of teams do worry about younger, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.879 younger guys becoming because it's like the problem here was 0:18:54.920 --> 0:19:00.400 like Dak is looking at Kellen and they too cool. Yeah, cool, 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.320 they're too cool. This is your OC, this is this 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.040 is who runs this offense, and you have to put 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:06.840 it on the field. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:08.960 Y'all can't be buddy buddy like that. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.200 He needs that OC needs to be able to tell 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.359 you that, hey, Doc, you get into the line too slow. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:20.840 But if y'all friends, it's like, hey, bro, you kinda no. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.440 There's a level of I like, there's it's a chain 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.800 of command in a sense. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.439 To that point too, though, like so do we not 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.360 remember how things were falling apart with the offense under 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:31.920 kelln Oh? 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.080 Like do we not remember? 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.000 Do we not remember how fat I watched it in Philly. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.159 It was phill Literally, you just watched it. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.600 But the problem is is when I was talking about 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.920 multiple players that year, okay, and again some are still 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.480 in that locker room. Max tell me when McCarthy took 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.360 over the play calling, like yeah, now I actually can 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.959 get it, Like I'm sorry. It was too overwhelming for 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.440 these players, veteran and rookie players back then. Okay, And 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.880 there was no I don't want to say open door 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.480 policy from what I heard, but there was little to 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.920 no room for suggestions on how to make it better 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.040 based on the skill sets these players knew. 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:13.400 They could bring. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.960 So for me as a head coach, you need to 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.560 also have an open door policy to a point of 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.159 hey man, you need you need to be able to 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.159 take feedback and apply it in how you think is 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.639 going to make this team better. And I just don't 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.560 know if Kellen can be that guy like I, I 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:31.800 don't know. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.920 I don't think he's getting any votes. I'm a hard pass. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:34.920 I'm a hard pass. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.640 Raise your hand if you think. 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.080 Asked the questions I'm not trying to see under this 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.680 table is I'm not trying to see three comeback routes 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.160 on a third and twelve no more? 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.119 And do you remember all the drop passes that season 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.320 because nobody was running their routes because they were all 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:53.480 confused of where to go? 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.440 Like do we not remember? And are you so quick 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:57.040 to forget this? 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:02.720 And I'm not going to be mean. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.879 I have looked within Kellen's offenses. I looked within his 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.359 offense last year with the Chargers. I've looked within his 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.840 offense last year with Philly. He has made improvements as 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.320 a play caller, he has matured in some areas. He's 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.800 had to say that, well, that's half of that's that's 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.720 and that's half of what's going on in Philly right now. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.840 But let's not forget that they've been boxing in that 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.480 locker room about touches, people. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.600 On the sideline reading books during games. The book is 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.520 crazy and we love it. We love it. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.320 We love an intellectual man absolutely. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:39.879 However, that to me, keep that energy over there, like 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.080 I'm fine with it. 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Like, yes, 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.479 you respect what Troy Eichmann has to say if you're 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.680 in the front office. I'm not saying Jess Novars, I'm 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:43.240 not Jessnavur's opinion is very different. But truly we know 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.520 that news good or bad, keeps your name in the 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:52.000 news cycle and just adds to that. So personally, I 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.919 think Troy's comments are valid if you're a human with 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.639 a job, because think about it. Say you get a 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.120 job where you're applying for a job and this job 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:06.320 has no real sense of stability. Do you want that job? 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:07.800 Do you want to go to that job? No matter 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:12.080 how glamorous this job seems. You know, you have so 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.159 many great aspects about this job, but as a human 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.520 with the family, with whatever moving parts you have in 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.120 your life, there's no real sense. 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:21.680 Of stability here. 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.440 So I agree to an extent with what Troy said. 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.880 I'm not gonna argue with Troy Aigman, like not trying 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.720 to do that either. Uh, but I do think there's 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.480 some validity in what he said. Now, if you're at 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:33.760 the front office, how do you handle it? 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.200 You just don't like. 0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.800 There's nothing, there's nothing that you're gonna say about it, 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.480 Like it's in when you're out, the other rolls off 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.679 your back because your next news cycle is gonna come 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:46.120 up soon. 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:47.719 What about you, Brie. 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:53.080 I'm thinking about the analogy used about marriage, right, they 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.400 and new mediation. This is the thing we know. Jerry 0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:00.560 Jones holds two titles, the owner in the GM. He's 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.720 made it very clear he is the GM. That is 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:08.080 why he bought this team. That is fair. So for 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.280 a healthy marriage, even though I haven't been married, what 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.520 my grandparents have told me fifty years plus marriage, there 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.919 has to be compromise that is a successful marriage. These 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:22.000 marriages with Jerry Jones and the head coaches as GM, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.199 they haven't been successful obviously, right, they haven't met the 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.879 goal that winning the standard right, So I feel like 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:35.040 to Troy Aikman's he's correct, to an extent because you're 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.320 a head coach and you're going to have to compromise, 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.639 you know that taking the job. But I think you 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.159 need the GM to be able just to trickle a 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.440 little bit more on the compromise. If you are looking 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.399 at yourself in the mirror, which the players told us 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.280 they were doing all season long, right man in the mirror? 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.880 We heard that in the beginning. Well, now Jerry has 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.080 to kind of look a little bit, just a little bit, 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:57.800 just give a little bit. And then I think you 0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.760 need a head coach who, if it is a young 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.600 o see that needs to be able to know how 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.720 to I think it's how you approach Jerry Jones. You 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.080 know how something, If you want something, you got to 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.159 kind of make that person feel like it's their idea 0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.399 and that was a good idea, like how you used 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.679 to go to you like your dad and your mom. Yeah, 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.120 it's not it's not disrespectful, it's not I'm right, you're wrong. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.560 It's just that's a great idea. But what about if 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.240 we did it like this? And I think you need 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.640 someone strong enough to come in here and do that 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.760 and stick to it and not try to be his buddy, 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.280 his pal and that that's that's what they need. 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.520 It's a lot of extra work. It sounds like on 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:36.919 top of the work of already. 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.360 Yeah, but if people want to run their comments Jerry 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.680 don't care, that's okay, cool. 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:50.680 Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm sick of you. 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.040 Listen. 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.680 I mean you mentioned the word compromise, And what comes 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.000 to mind to me is how many times do you 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.480 can how many times we hear players say in an 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.160 interview towards this part of the year, like, Oh, if 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.240 he's able to have full control, if he's able to 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.720 do the things that he wants to do, Blase, that 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:17.280 would insinuate to me that maybe there isn't the compromising 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.560 that you're talking about going on. And that's the thing 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:24.840 is like football operations, the football operations part of things 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.080 feels like at this point it is getting overshadowed by 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.080 a lot of the other things that go on with 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:35.360 the team, and you cannot not prioritize the team building. 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.840 Right, that's the problem. Like, that's half of the problem. 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.520 And the coaches want to have freedom in the team 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.240 building because whatever happens up there is a direct reflection 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:46.720 of them. 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:51.120 But you can be chilling it upstairs and it is 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:51.720 a reflection. 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.840 But at the same time, it's like, no, like the 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.920 head coach is going to be held accountable for so 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.920 much of the things that go on the field, and 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.720 if they don't have the freedom or the compromise to 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.240 be able to exercise their opinions and what they want 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.440 to do. If you're coming into a job that you 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.840 don't have creative freedom. 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.080 Are we even gonna do that? 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.920 Yeah? Like on a base level, are we even gonna 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.560 do that if you were applying for a job. So 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.760 for me, I agree, it's there has to be like 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.360 you said, he has to look himself in the mirror. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.800 It's probably a big mirror, might be one on the ceiling. 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:28.800 I'm sick, look himself in the mirror and ask himself. 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.080 You mentioned earlier. 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.120 That's why I said, do they really do you really 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.520 want to win? Because that might mean taking some risk 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.760 in different ways too. It might mean taking some more 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.160 risk and free agency. It might mean taking a risk 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:44.320 on a young OC that hasn't maybe made it as 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:44.960 a head coach. 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:46.080 But that's what a lot of. 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.440 These teams that have been successful have done. They see 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.000 that they have creative minds and they're like, you know what, 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.040 We're gonna put you in the spot and see if 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.720 you can handle it. And it's worked out for several teams, 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.040 So for me, they're gonna have to get a little 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.640 bit more innovative and how they team build. 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.200 But they're also going to have the baby steal. 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.920 For the love of God, please steal some of these 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.520 other team's ideas. If you see them doing something right, please, 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.200 Like if I seeing them doing something right, do it. 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.160 But on a football level, the way that football is 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.280 played right now. 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.000 You're not keeping up with it the way that I 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.600 would rejoice seeing a freaking deep crosser, and that's something 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:23.880 that teams do every play. 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.120 For the love of God, I think that what y'all 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.520 are saying about the compromising, they also have to remember 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.040 that it's the benefit of these players too. Please, because 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.400 Brandon Cooks not having a thousand yard season like he's 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.760 had with other teams unacceptable. Rico o'doddell finally getting that 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.160 one thousand yard rushing, but it took to what week eight, 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:50.760 week nine till he was finally running back one. There 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.480 needs to be a little bit of compromising for the 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.880 betterment of everyone, because everybody benefits from that compromising. But 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.800 now when you look at Mike McCarthy not here, who 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.840 does that benefit Who does that not benefit? 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.920 On this team? Compromising goes hand in hand. 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.440 Look, right now, not having a head coach doesn't benefit anybody, Like, 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.800 there's no benefits to not having a head coach. They 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.960 feel behind, they fell behind. 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.320 They've done this a week ago. 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.280 It could be a different conversation of they were ahead 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.200 of the game, now they're not. And so you're talking 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.720 if you truly want to pick somebody off of a 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.680 playoff winning team currently in the state of the NFL, 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.080 you're going to have to wait a few weeks to 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.600 do that. And then again, what are you doing in 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.720 the meantime still interviewing people that you kind of have 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.520 to at this point, Like, if you want a good 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.560 coach that's coming out of a good program that is successful, 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.600 you have to wait a while. And for me, there's 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.240 no benefit to that right now because the draft is 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.760 right around the corner and you need a head coach 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.320 in here to help delegate what kind of players he 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.640 needs to put his system into place, Like, there's no 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.480 benefit to not having anybody in here right now. 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:03.920 There's just not and. 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.480 Until they do that, we can't really talk about what 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.280 the benefits are because we don't know what that will 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:09.680 look like. 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.000 The timing thing is huge because to me, I only 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:14.680 want to talk to the coaches who are still playing 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:16.720 and then are in contention for Super Bowl, and those 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.560 coaches you cannot talk to you right now. But uh, 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.400 it's we're exiting out killamore and that in that. 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.040 Uh, I had to cross it off because I was 0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.200 like that that was who I thought Jerry was speaking of. 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:33.360 My way, that's my vote, but we're playing survivors next check. 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.960 But I think that's that's the hard part. When they 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.960 were losing all those games in a row, the way 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.000 that they were losing, finishing two and seven at home, 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.640 and you have someone asking you after the game in 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.160 mid season, is McCarthy still the guy? And that was 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:53.160 the question for multiple games in my mind, you know 0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.680 what kind of contract you're offering. Even if he does, 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.160 you know you're hoping that, you know, like he did, 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.400 they kind of stood on business the back seams a 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:03.040 little bit too late. But I feel like at that point, 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.400 when you saw you were not going to the playoffs, 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.719 you know you're not giving him that fat contract. You 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.400 know you're not it's not going to be probably not 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.200 three past three years right. Two is in my mind 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.040 is what's probably yeah, what's too low and their speculation 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.440 on that. But bottom line is, if I'm in the 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.040 front office and my season is a feil and we're 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.040 in season five, maybe I can hang my hat on 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.799 the injuries, okay, and I can give him something else. 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.560 But I know it's not going to be lengthy. So 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.799 I'm going to have that discussion with you prior to it. Manda, Man, Like, 0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.040 this is what I'm a fan of. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:41.200 You. 0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.120 I like the foundation. This is not the success. I 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.640 got fans turning on me right now. I gotta do something. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.320 And this is how I compromise with this. You know whatever, 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.480 you and I have been in local TV, even though 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.080 you don't go, Hey, my name is Nicole and I'm 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.239 interested in this job. But what's the pay and what's 0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.799 the contract look like? But you kind of have an 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.160 eye Ida once you know what I'm saying. That's that's 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.920 the problem that I'm having hours before he's a free agent. Like, 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.640 that's that's the part. I agree with you. 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.640 God, Yeah, I don't think it benefits to just this 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.640 point to your point, I don't think it benefits really 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.600 anyone given the state of like what your team is 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.319 in right now. 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.640 Because let me just say this. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.600 For the people who get ticked off when people mention like, Okay, 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.280 well we don't know the head coach, so it puts 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.840 us us like a damper on you preparing for draft. 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:29.920 That whole cliche. 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.600 It shouldn't matter draft the best players. I don't know 0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.160 what world you're living in. They ain't have football work. 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:40.040 Schemes matter, like body types, all that stuff factors into 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.839 the way these coaches have an impact on the draft. Now, 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:46.680 you don't need to go BBA, but in doing that, 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.359 you are building. We don't know what the coach that 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:50.680 comes here is gonna want to build. 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:52.320 You look at Philly Fangio. 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.560 They went out and got all these fantastic like that 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.680 secondary because the way that Vic Fangio runs his defense, 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:01.640 you gotta be able to come downhill, you gotta be 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.719 able to tackle, you gotta be able to read. And 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.400 they went and got players that fit that mold. No 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.400 different than what Dallas is gonna be. We saw Dan 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.400 Quinn's imprint on the draft four years, so stop playing 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.560 with me. Stop acting like that's not a thing. But 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.840 I will say it doesn't to your again, to revert 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.920 back to the original point, it doesn't benefit anyone. 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.080 It puts you behind the eight ball. 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.720 You're already behind the eight ball, and now you're gonna 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:23.040 have to. 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.520 Go into this draft season. 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.480 You know, when a new coach coming in, trying to 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.160 figure out philosophy all that stuff. Then you're gonna have 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.520 to go through a whole new install period. And here's 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.560 the thing about bringing in like a new coach and 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.200 stuff like that, there are gonna be some growing pains 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:39.799 with learning a new system. You went through it this 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.000 year with Mike zimmer even so you went through it 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.440 with Mike McCarthy the last two years, three years with 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:45.480 his offense. 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.759 Like the first five weeks it was like what is 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:47.600 going on here? 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.600 So we know that that's a thing, but you know 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.160 what overshadows that just getting more talent. Are you gonna 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:57.400 do that? Are you gonna put yourself in position to Britain. 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.600 That's the thing that makes me worried is like, are 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.560 you gonna waste multiple games to start your season because 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.440 your team is still trying to get a feel. 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.480 For things go and especially have preseason and stuff. 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.440 But they also too, are you gonna put the necessarily 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.000 necessary talent in this building? You already have talent here. 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.239 Are you gonna add some of the role players? Are 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.800 you gonna go out in free agency? So the beginning 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.799 of this new install in this new coaching regime can 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.120 have some success and some confidence as well. So for me, 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.480 it's like you're behind the eight ball anyway, you're already behind. 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.960 It's not a good look. That's gonna put you behind. 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.080 And I will say that maybe a new coaching staff, 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.120 depending on who it is, if it's someone innovative, it 0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:38.320 will benefit your offense. 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.640 If nothing more. And you say the word waste, I'm 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.200 thinking of Dak Prescott. He's not getting any younger he deserves. 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.080 I feel like when I have, okay, we got some 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.239 young talent quarterbacks, and I feel like he's still a 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.680 top ten quarterback in my mind absolutely. So the time 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:59.440 is ticking though, Like he's had two really major injuries. 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.360 Going to come back and it's going to be a 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.440 mental thing. He was already struggling being that mobile quarterback. 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.040 If he will going back. You know, they had a 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.640 little joke like Aaron Rodgers got more Russian. 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.480 Yeah, I know Clarence soy hetty Eddy King, right, LaRence, 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.759 but Clarence, my boy. But that's what I'm saying, like, 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.080 whereas I'm okay with we're gonna be all in, Yeah, 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:24.880 I'm okay with getting some creative play, calling some creative 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.520 mind in here, right, and I'm tying him into DAK and. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.279 CD because I got that's my ceiling. I'm not really 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.480 thinking past that because I have the foundation right now 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.360 and it's time to go all in. It's time to 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.520 hit free agency because I'm sick watching the Eagles and 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.919 I'm like, that was only five point five man, Yeah, 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.080 then I'm looking at Bobby Oh my god, like sixty 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.000 five ways. All right, you do, It's time to be 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.080 I hate saying it because they said it all season, 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.400 but all in like it really. 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.520 Is, but genuinely all in, like not pretend all in 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.040 like actions and words that part. And not only that, 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.880 but you look at the laundry list to free agents 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.200 that this team has right now. 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.200 You have to It does hurt. It hurts real bad. 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.839 You have to decide who your key impact makers were 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.960 on that list and find a way to obtain your 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.520 talent because what you're doing if you don't obtain good 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.360 talent in this building is one, to Troy Aigman's point, 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.000 you're making it less attractive for players to want to 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.640 come here because they don't have a longevity in this 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:29.479 building right. And for two, you also aren't building off 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.560 of what you've been coaching them and somewhere that they 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.960 know and that they most likely do want to stay at. 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.480 Like it's you have to start there as well. 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.480 And then yes, go shopping, get some big names, find 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:45.359 some good prices, cap room, cap salary, cap space, make room, 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.920 adjust some contracts, figure out, do what you need to 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.120 do to be able to go on in like limiting 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.040 yourself to oh there's no cap space. Be proactive, sign 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.600 your big players first. You know those contracts are coming up. 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.680 Guess who's next, Micah Parsons, figure it out. Like just 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:07.600 procrastinating and constantly putting yourself behind the sticks literally and figuratively, 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.400 penalties and outside like I mean, it's not doing anything 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.719 for anybody, and it's the reason that you continue to 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.319 be in this bind a year after year. 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.799 At this point point about Dak Prescott is this. 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.359 Year, why am I being shady? 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.680 I'm planned no you start with the twenty six free agents, 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.520 then you obviously have to prioritize what how you want 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.680 to build around Dak Prescott, how you want to build 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.480 around Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parsons because they are the 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:36.960 future here. 0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:42.120 It's a long list, got it should be prioritized here 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:43.160 on this team. 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.160 But I do want to talk about what are some 0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.239 who are some options that you feel could build off 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.920 of what Mike McCarthy did with Dak in his growth 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.520 sit on that. 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You talk about 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:05.440 twenty twenty one and Dak. 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:09.680 Prescott throwing thirty seven touchdown passes, But let's talk about 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.680 Mike McCarthy and obviously just putting the installing that confidence 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.320 in Dak to start being a little bit more mobile, 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.120 more of an all around quarterback. I think that Mike 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.960 McCarthy definitely deserves the credit. But when you look at 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.919 now no more Mike McCarthy, who can come in here 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.719 and build off of what he did with Dak. 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.560 There's a lot of head coaching options. 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.760 There's some options we got Ben. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:40.960 Johnson, Liam Cohen, Cliff Kingsbury, Quingsburry, Oh goodness, straight today 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:41.400 is today? 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.360 Kingsbury, Joe Brady. 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.640 We're not gonna talk Kellen Moore because we already talked Kellen. 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:48.799 No, no one want to go with those. We're gonna 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:49.399 quit Pee Carroll. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:55.600 We got Pete Carroll as well. Yeah, quite some options out. 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.520 I wrote two lists. Okay, let's see what you like, 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:03.239 but I put what I I think Jerry wants exactly first. 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.920 You want, yeah, say you're the front office. 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:10.879 I'm so. I'm a very anything with the Lions that's 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.440 attached to it. They had absolutely nothing. I want it, Yes, 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.280 I want to personally though, for this team and seeing 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.440 the defense save the offense so many times the offense 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.839 could not, even when Dak was here. That what make 0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:30.160 me want that offensive minded OC coming into this building. 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.719 As much as I'm a fan of that is that's 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.400 the only thing right, But everything else I think it matches. 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.840 But I just feel like this team needs that offensive 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:44.080 minded creativeness. I'm a little biased because I was saw 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.399 Joe Brady when he was in LSU. I covered lab 0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:52.120 during that run. It was fun, fantastic to see and 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.520 then to see him have that opportunity in Buffalo where 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.400 Alpha was at. When I tell you, guys, Buffalo was 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.160 in a similar situation, had all this talent. You know, 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.560 that was the time where we had Digs and we 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:05.839 weren't doing anything with it and let go of our 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:10.120 OC mid season and took one game. I remember, it 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.279 was a whole different offense. Yeah, because we started to 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.600 utilize our running backs. Yes, so yes, that's why I 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:21.120 am a wow, right, and just what they're doing now, 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:25.120 Like the biggest talk going into that season was Digs 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.960 is out. The biggest star power is Curtis Samuel and 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.600 you know, like there was nothing right we got it 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.799 was just it's still insane to see like this team 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.160 could We're looking at a Lion's possibly build super Bowl. 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.680 Who would have thought when you get a little creative. 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:42.800 So I'll take anybody from either one of that staff 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:43.759 to be honest. 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.600 Yeah, I mean retweet like truly. 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.280 I think for a while now when the whole coaching 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.879 conversation would come up in waves throughout the season, Ben 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.719 Johnson was a name that obviously came up because look 0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.560 what he has done and in the best complimented way possible. 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.279 The problem I see for that though, is will he 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.080 have the talent to be able to utilize his skill 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.680 set the most? That's what I worry about because right 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:13.960 now you're talking about running the ball. 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.000 Who's your running back? 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:19.360 Rayco's a free agent, like you need the talent to 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.880 fill in, which is akin why you would prefer to 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.400 already have talked to some of these guys that we 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:28.719 couldgo but here nor there. I'm gonna say the same thing. 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.960 But also, you want somebody in the Shanahan tree like 0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:38.200 that seems to be your what, your kryptonite, your dragon. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:43.120 You can't slay every metaphor possible. Somebody that has a 0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:44.680 record to beat. 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:45.400 The Shanahan tree. 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.359 Who can come in and really teach these guys Dak 0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:53.879 included just new innovative ways to utilize their skill set. 0:47:54.760 --> 0:48:01.120 I'm not sure, honestly, I. 0:47:58.640 --> 0:47:59.400 I'm so torn. 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.600 I'm so torn, But I'm gonna go Ben Johnson. If 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.240 we're living in my fun little bubble of a world, 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.880 Jerry bubble of a world is probably different than mine. 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.920 So I think on that list we kind of have 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.439 an inkling of who he would pick. 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:16.799 But we love Ben here. 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.920 Yeah, we got thirty seconds. We got a heart out 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.560 at one fifty. I was told that go. 0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.759 Okay, yeah, So for me, I'm of the same elk. 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.840 I think that Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn would be 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.040 fantastic for these young men in the locker room. But 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.480 I also think Liam Cohen and what he's done with 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:33.400 Tampa Bay's offense. 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.480 I remember looking at their film and looking at how they. 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.399 Run the ball, how creative they are, and that way 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.600 they run the ball, some of the ways that they 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.440 use their their receivers as well, So I thought that 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:43.160 that was dope. 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:44.600 So for me, it doesn't matter. 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.560 Just somewhat innovative that actually can capture a locker room. 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.000 That's just all I care about. 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:51.920 All right, straight like that, all right, we gotta go 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:52.719 on that note. 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.920 For Asia Morrison, Jess and VARs Brianna Aldridge, I'm Nicole Hutchinson. 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.160 Will be back here next week. 0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.239 Hi ah, right, all right, all right. 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:05.279 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.360 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.