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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your host,

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Speaker 1: Nicole Hutchison, What.

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Speaker 2: Up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk

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Speaker 2: presented by vis Line. Here in the SWBC studio, I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Nicole Hutcheson alongside Ayisha Morrison, Jessnavars, and we.

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Speaker 3: Got a newkir Yeah, we got it yea in the House.

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Speaker 2: Of Aldridge, Sporty anchor reporter for CBS here.

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Speaker 4: Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Tell us some about tell us about yourself, because a

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Speaker 2: lot of people don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've been a little bit of everywhere West Virginia, Louisiana, Colorado,

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Speaker 4: and Buffalo was my last stop, Buffalo Bills, and now

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Speaker 4: I'm here having a very interesting first season with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: because it's been not boring since I've been here. It

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Speaker 4: won't ever be wait to describe it. That's very nice nuts, big.

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Speaker 2: Change obviously coming from Buffalo, and now you're here in

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Speaker 2: Dallas coaching change as well.

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Speaker 4: Wood.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so I'm really good than.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike McCarthy is now out as the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Cowboys head coach, so the search begins here in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: And I know that Mike McCarthy the Dallas Cowboys have

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Speaker 2: been catching strays the last couple of days, because well.

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Speaker 3: The last day or so.

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Speaker 6: And I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like you because I mean, granted, Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 3: But he had a lot of success here. He was

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Speaker 3: great the guys here.

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Speaker 2: And he was just a great guy in the building

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Speaker 2: as far as just being nice to the people here,

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Speaker 2: myself welcoming me.

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Speaker 3: And when I came in as a reporter last year.

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Speaker 2: What are some good things before we break down this

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Speaker 2: whole the other stuff, What are some things some interactions

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Speaker 2: that you had with Micha McCarthy that you do want

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Speaker 2: him to be remembered by, because again, he has been

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Speaker 2: catching a lot of strays on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: Now, like the best story I have about Mike. If

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Speaker 6: you have children watching this, please cover.

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Speaker 5: Their ears because I may or may not spoil some surprises.

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Speaker 5: It was around Christmas time, and so there's your hint.

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Speaker 5: If you're a parent with a child listening. And Mike

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Speaker 5: had made a comment in the press conference about Santa

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Speaker 5: and alluding to he has younger kids, alluding to how

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Speaker 5: his adults responsibilities is a parent, and you know Santa

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Speaker 5: was coming to visit, and he thought about it so

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Speaker 5: much because you know, it was a big joke in

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Speaker 5: the press conference. But he goes back to make sure

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Speaker 5: PR comes and tell us like, hey, don't put that anywhere.

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Speaker 6: Don't post it because it was a funny moment from PR.

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Speaker 5: They're like, Mike doesn't want that anywhere because he doesn't

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Speaker 5: want his kids to know the secret that he is.

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I just don't want kids to be

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Speaker 5: Me ruined this for anybody, But to me, it was

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Speaker 5: always family football, and to me that that instilled and

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Speaker 5: even what he put in the players was take care

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Speaker 5: of yourself, take care of your family.

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Speaker 6: Football's here. But he was a very big family guy.

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Speaker 5: I also remember during the Eras tour week I had

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Speaker 5: asked if his daughters were going.

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Speaker 6: I was like, you need friendship bracelets, Mike.

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Speaker 4: You good.

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Speaker 5: But overall I really do wish him well because the

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Speaker 5: interactions I've had with him were always really positive, even

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Speaker 5: during tough questions after tough classes, And he never made

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Speaker 5: as a woman in this business, that's something you run

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Speaker 5: across a lot, unfortunately, from people everywhere. And Mike never

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Speaker 6: I kind of noticed. He was very poised in answering.

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Speaker 5: Any questions, So I appreciate that from him, sir, kind

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing I think is just respect in the

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Speaker 4: media room. I've been in multiple medium rooms and you

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Speaker 4: don't always get that, male or female.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: When you lose five games in a row and you

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Speaker 4: You know, he kind of took some shots too. I

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Speaker 4: I think that back half of the season really speaks

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Speaker 4: to what Mike McCarthy was all about. He really, I

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Speaker 4: think everyone here could agree he did not lose that

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Speaker 4: locker room. You know, ceedee lambs out there playing with

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Speaker 4: the really hurt shoulder when they have nothing to win

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Speaker 4: at that point. I think it speaks a lot. But

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely just the respect that aspects what I'm going

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Speaker 4: to remember about Mike Lncthudy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of similar to you ladies, kind of

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Speaker 7: very much so learning this game in depth and stuff

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Speaker 7: and trying to sharpen my film study and master my craft.

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Speaker 7: His willingness to teach me offline in moments and even

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Speaker 7: to talk football, so he would talk.

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Speaker 6: Football back to me, reassure.

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Speaker 7: Me I'm on the right track, which is a lot

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Speaker 7: of things like that's reassuring as well, like Hey, my

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Speaker 7: in this game like that continue to help me, you know,

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Speaker 7: teaching has helped me to be a better analyst for

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Speaker 7: you guys and to be you know, better on this show.

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Speaker 7: So that's not something that I take lightly as well.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that mentorship, little bit of mentorship I've gotten

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to figure back all that as well.

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Speaker 3: But I'll never forget the time that I was grabbing coffee.

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Speaker 4: This was like week three, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was early in the season this year, because

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Speaker 2: again I remember I started with October.

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Speaker 3: Second October last year.

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Speaker 2: October doesn't matter, it's all the same, all right. And

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Speaker 2: so I was grabbing coffee and he comes behind me.

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Speaker 2: He's like, hey, Nicole, right, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm moving up in the world.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, but he we I never really talked like

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Speaker 2: about myself obviously to head coach mich McCarthy has at

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Speaker 2: so many things on his mind on his plate, but

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Speaker 2: he was just asking me like, oh, where are you from.

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Speaker 3: I haven't you know, just talked to you one on one, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, how's your parents did it out?

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Speaker 2: Just being so nice right, And then one thing he

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Speaker 2: had told me was like, I know that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people may not notice your work, but your work

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Speaker 2: it doesn't go unnotice.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a good job here.

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Speaker 6: And so I was like, wow, I'm the head coach.

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Speaker 4: I love it here.

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Speaker 2: But no, he's he's been great since I got here

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: So wishing nothing but the best for Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: But now it is time to talk some ball and

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Speaker 2: coaching options.

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Speaker 3: But let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: We're y'all shocked at all about Mike McCarthy in the

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Speaker 2: news that you guys heard yesterday that he would not

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Speaker 7: No, the only part I was shocked about was the timing.

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Speaker 8: They weren't even do a no talk. They wouldn't even negotiations.

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Speaker 4: That's the part that said me. I thought he was

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Speaker 7: I given just kind of the energy and just how

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Speaker 7: But the biggest thing that the only part that surprised me,

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Speaker 7: like him leaving didn't surprise me, It was the they

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Speaker 4: Listen, not the mediation.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I think, honestly, I'm gonna flipp it

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Speaker 4: a little bit. I think what I think Garry Jones

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Speaker 4: is the Dallas Cowboys. Everybody wants to be here. I've

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Speaker 4: been praising Mike McCarthy up and down, even though he

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Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, the numbers

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Speaker 4: aren't there. This is not the Dallas Cowboys. Expectations were

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Speaker 4: not met. But I'm gonna just I'm gonna you know,

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Speaker 4: they've been they were friendly the entire time. Anytime you

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Speaker 4: That's not good enough. And that's why I feel like

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Speaker 4: we're talking about what we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say I wasn't surprised, And after the

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Speaker 5: telling you shawd this. Earlier I was kind of looking

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying he was checked out or whatever,

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Speaker 5: Mike and the decision was made. But I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 5: And you know, putting it in human terms of our

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Speaker 5: day to day and work, if you're Mike McCarthy kind

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Speaker 5: of having to deal with the stuff that he deals

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Speaker 5: real quick. And he's handled it with grace. And I

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Speaker 5: think enough could only be enough so much and you

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Speaker 5: get where you get.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a teeter on both lines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm because teeter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was only surprised just because of how long

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Speaker 2: that this was not something that both either parties wanted

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Speaker 2: you have to look at like all the contracts and

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Speaker 2: the delays and the long time that it takes for

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Speaker 2: these guys to finally make decisions. So it's like, am

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Speaker 2: I surprised, not really, but I was also not surprised

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Speaker 2: just because I mentioned this Tobree yesterday. Is that this organization,

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Speaker 2: the front office, wants to get back to the success

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Speaker 2: that they've had in the nineties, like the five Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls that they've won here.

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Speaker 4: They want to get back to that success.

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Speaker 2: And whether it's with Mike McCarthy or not, they want

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Speaker 2: to figure out immediately.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately it's not Mike McCarthy, but there's.

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Speaker 2: Some other options out there that they're obviously teetering around,

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Speaker 2: maybe possibly killing more.

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Speaker 4: That name has been thrown around. I know you're looking

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Speaker 4: at me like.

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Speaker 8: I don't, Like I wanted.

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Speaker 7: I'm not talking about the Kellen Moore thing I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, a little triggered.

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Speaker 7: The door.

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Speaker 5: Uh huh, well, actions and words, I mean, what are

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Speaker 7: So you got to be aggressive and free agency, you

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Speaker 4: You They put enough stress on the draft.

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Speaker 9: Like it might work regular season, but when you get

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Speaker 5: Vision have been more depth to combat most of those injuries,

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Speaker 9: So I mean, what you really want to do, I'm

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Speaker 6: Can go back to the Let's get back to the

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Speaker 2: I on Kellen Moore, the news about the possibility of Keen.

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Speaker 5: Babe, let her, let her house, letty.

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Speaker 5: Yes, if you know me, you know what I think

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Speaker 6: They were happy about it.

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Speaker 5: They were ready to move on from the Kellen Moore

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's not it.

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Speaker 6: That starts with actions and words.

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Speaker 9: Like actions and.

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Speaker 3: Words, that's the best to put it.

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Speaker 5: You're you're telling me the guy who's only been an

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Speaker 6: Whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: Here curse in the building like I'm sorry, I can't

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Speaker 6: What you have punish, Let's see, let's see those dudes.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to fight him anymore.

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Speaker 4: Nicole said, yesterday I made her come on CBS eleven.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we saw that.

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Speaker 4: You look crazy natural. I was hitting you great. Wow.

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Speaker 4: But the last thing that she how I actually ended

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Speaker 4: time for a new beginning. That's what stuck out. That's

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Speaker 4: it ain't broke, don't fix it. It is broke. The

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Speaker 4: I wish ah, and then I do there they go

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Speaker 4: it was boring. I personally wasn't against Mike McCarthy at all.

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Speaker 4: Coming back. I wanted Mike McCarthy to be open to

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Speaker 4: you get to stay in Dallas. You get to look

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Speaker 4: the hero now. And that's what other teams are okay

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Speaker 4: And I know there's a lot of safe candidates out

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Speaker 4: Players in this building are still trying to, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I just think going back to things that have

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I wanted to comment very quickly piggyback off of

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Speaker 8: I don't think Mike McCarthy is.

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Speaker 7: A bad play caller, but there is something to be

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Speaker 7: quarter teams in the NFL, there was never a counter

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Speaker 7: you should be able to feel how serious this drive is.

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Speaker 7: You need to get into your best place, you need

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Speaker 8: Like, yeah, just bring a new OC, just bring in

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, well, if you were in the spot

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Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone's ever said it, but I'm

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Speaker 8: And I understand, like there's something to be said.

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Speaker 7: As a head coach, you have to be able to

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Speaker 8: To do that and have.

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Speaker 7: The diversity in your thinking to do that. And for me,

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Speaker 4: That was our first year.

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Speaker 7: We're in the locker room, We're hearing these conversations. I

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Speaker 7: they're too cool. This is your OC, this is this

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Speaker 9: Y'all can't be buddy buddy like that.

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Speaker 7: He needs that OC needs to be able to tell

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Speaker 7: But if y'all friends, it's like, hey, bro, you kinda no.

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Speaker 7: There's a level of I like, there's it's a chain

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Speaker 6: Like do we not remember?

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Speaker 9: Do we not remember how fat I watched it in Philly.

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Speaker 6: It was phill Literally, you just watched it.

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Speaker 5: get it, Like I'm sorry. It was too overwhelming for

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Speaker 5: there was no I don't want to say open door

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Speaker 6: They could bring.

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Speaker 5: So for me as a head coach, you need to

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Speaker 5: hey man, you need you need to be able to

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Speaker 5: know if Kellen can be that guy like I, I

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Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's getting any votes. I'm a hard pass.

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Speaker 4: I'm a hard pass.

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Speaker 6: Raise your hand if you think.

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Speaker 7: Asked the questions I'm not trying to see under this

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Speaker 7: table is I'm not trying to see three comeback routes

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Speaker 5: And do you remember all the drop passes that season

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Speaker 6: Like do we not remember? And are you so quick

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Speaker 9: And I'm not going to be mean.

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Speaker 7: I have looked within Kellen's offenses. I looked within his

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Speaker 7: offense last year with the Chargers. I've looked within his

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Speaker 7: offense last year with Philly. He has made improvements as

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Speaker 7: had to say that, well, that's half of that's that's

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Speaker 7: But let's not forget that they've been boxing in that

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Speaker 4: On the sideline reading books during games. The book is

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Speaker 9: We love an intellectual man absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Troy Aigman's comments on Monday Night Countdown, we talked about.

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Speaker 2: That was one of them, all right, and he basically

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Speaker 2: If y'all are the front office, I want to get

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Speaker 6: What is there to attack?

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Speaker 5: Like it's get me genuinely, No, but genuinely, If I'm the.

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Speaker 5: Front office does, it's onto the next news cycle the

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Speaker 5: you respect what Troy Eichmann has to say if you're

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Speaker 5: news cycle and just adds to that. So personally, I

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Speaker 5: Do you want to go to that job? No matter

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Speaker 5: many great aspects about this job, but as a human

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Speaker 6: Of stability here.

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Speaker 5: So I agree to an extent with what Troy said.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna argue with Troy Aigman, like not trying

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Speaker 5: to do that either. Uh, but I do think there's

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Speaker 5: some validity in what he said. Now, if you're at

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Speaker 6: You just don't like.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing, there's nothing that you're gonna say about it,

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Speaker 8: What about you, Brie.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the analogy used about marriage, right, they

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Speaker 4: and new mediation. This is the thing we know. Jerry

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Speaker 4: Jones holds two titles, the owner in the GM. He's

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Speaker 4: made it very clear he is the GM. That is

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Speaker 4: why he bought this team. That is fair. So for

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Speaker 4: a healthy marriage, even though I haven't been married, what

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Speaker 4: my grandparents have told me fifty years plus marriage, there

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Speaker 4: goal that winning the standard right, So I feel like

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Speaker 4: you know that taking the job. But I think you

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Speaker 4: need the GM to be able just to trickle a

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Speaker 4: little bit more on the compromise. If you are looking

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Speaker 4: at yourself in the mirror, which the players told us

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Speaker 4: they were doing all season long, right man in the mirror?

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Speaker 4: We heard that in the beginning. Well, now Jerry has

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Speaker 4: to kind of look a little bit, just a little bit,

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Speaker 4: just give a little bit. And then I think you

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Speaker 4: kind of make that person feel like it's their idea

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Speaker 4: and that was a good idea, like how you used

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Speaker 4: to go to you like your dad and your mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not it's not disrespectful, it's not I'm right, you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's just that's a great idea. But what about if

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Speaker 4: we did it like this? And I think you need

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Speaker 4: someone strong enough to come in here and do that

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Speaker 4: and stick to it and not try to be his buddy,

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Speaker 4: his pal and that that's that's what they need.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of extra work. It sounds like on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if people want to run their comments Jerry

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Speaker 4: don't care, that's okay, cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm sick of you.

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Speaker 8: Listen.

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Speaker 7: I mean you mentioned the word compromise, And what comes

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Speaker 7: to mind to me is how many times do you

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Speaker 7: can how many times we hear players say in an

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Speaker 7: do the things that he wants to do, Blase, that

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Speaker 7: would insinuate to me that maybe there isn't the compromising

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Speaker 7: that you're talking about going on. And that's the thing

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Speaker 7: is like football operations, the football operations part of things

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Speaker 7: feels like at this point it is getting overshadowed by

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Speaker 7: a lot of the other things that go on with

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Speaker 8: Right, that's the problem. Like, that's half of the problem.

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Speaker 7: And the coaches want to have freedom in the team

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Speaker 9: But you can be chilling it upstairs and it is

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Speaker 9: a reflection.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's like, no, like the

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Speaker 7: head coach is going to be held accountable for so

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Speaker 7: much of the things that go on the field, and

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Speaker 7: if they don't have the freedom or the compromise to

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Speaker 7: be able to exercise their opinions and what they want

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Speaker 7: to do. If you're coming into a job that you

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Speaker 7: don't have creative freedom.

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Speaker 4: Are we even gonna do that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Like on a base level, are we even gonna

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Speaker 7: do that if you were applying for a job. So

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Speaker 7: for me, I agree, it's there has to be like

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Speaker 7: you said, he has to look himself in the mirror.

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Speaker 8: It's probably a big mirror, might be one on the ceiling.

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Speaker 4: I'm sick, look himself in the mirror and ask himself.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 7: That's why I said, do they really do you really

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Speaker 7: in different ways too. It might mean taking some more

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Speaker 7: risk and free agency. It might mean taking a risk

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Speaker 7: on a young OC that hasn't maybe made it as

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Speaker 7: a head coach.

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Speaker 9: But that's what a lot of.

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Speaker 7: These teams that have been successful have done. They see

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Speaker 7: We're gonna put you in the spot and see if

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Speaker 7: you can handle it. And it's worked out for several teams,

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Speaker 7: So for me, they're gonna have to get a little

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Speaker 7: bit more innovative and how they team build.

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Speaker 9: But they're also going to have the baby steal.

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Speaker 7: For the love of God, please steal some of these

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Speaker 7: other team's ideas. If you see them doing something right, please,

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Speaker 7: Like if I seeing them doing something right, do it.

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Speaker 9: But on a football level, the way that football is

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Speaker 9: played right now.

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Speaker 7: You're not keeping up with it the way that I

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Speaker 7: would rejoice seeing a freaking deep crosser, and that's something

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Speaker 7: that teams do every play.

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Speaker 2: For the love of God, I think that what y'all

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Speaker 2: are saying about the compromising, they also have to remember

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Speaker 2: that it's the benefit of these players too. Please, because

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Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks not having a thousand yard season like he's

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Speaker 2: one thousand yard rushing, but it took to what week eight,

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Speaker 2: week nine till he was finally running back one. There

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Speaker 2: needs to be a little bit of compromising for the

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Speaker 2: betterment of everyone, because everybody benefits from that compromising. But

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Speaker 2: now when you look at Mike McCarthy not here, who

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Speaker 2: does that benefit Who does that not benefit?

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Speaker 4: On this team? Compromising goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 5: Look, right now, not having a head coach doesn't benefit anybody, Like,

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Speaker 5: there's no benefits to not having a head coach. They

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Speaker 5: feel behind, they fell behind.

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Speaker 6: They've done this a week ago.

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Speaker 5: It could be a different conversation of they were ahead

665
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: of the game, now they're not. And so you're talking

666
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: if you truly want to pick somebody off of a

667
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: playoff winning team currently in the state of the NFL,

668
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: you're going to have to wait a few weeks to

669
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: do that. And then again, what are you doing in

670
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 5: the meantime still interviewing people that you kind of have

671
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: to at this point, Like, if you want a good

672
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: coach that's coming out of a good program that is successful,

673
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: you have to wait a while. And for me, there's

674
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: no benefit to that right now because the draft is

675
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: right around the corner and you need a head coach

676
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 5: in here to help delegate what kind of players he

677
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: needs to put his system into place, Like, there's no

678
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: benefit to not having anybody in here right now.

679
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: There's just not and.

680
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: Until they do that, we can't really talk about what

681
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: the benefits are because we don't know what that will

682
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: look like.

683
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: The timing thing is huge because to me, I only

684
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: want to talk to the coaches who are still playing

685
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: and then are in contention for Super Bowl, and those

686
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: coaches you cannot talk to you right now. But uh,

687
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: it's we're exiting out killamore and that in that.

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 7: Uh, I had to cross it off because I was

689
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 7: like that that was who I thought Jerry was speaking of.

690
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: My way, that's my vote, but we're playing survivors next check.

691
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: But I think that's that's the hard part. When they

692
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: were losing all those games in a row, the way

693
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: that they were losing, finishing two and seven at home,

694
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: and you have someone asking you after the game in

695
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: mid season, is McCarthy still the guy? And that was

696
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: the question for multiple games in my mind, you know

697
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: what kind of contract you're offering. Even if he does,

698
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: you know you're hoping that, you know, like he did,

699
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: they kind of stood on business the back seams a

700
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: little bit too late. But I feel like at that point,

701
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: when you saw you were not going to the playoffs,

702
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: you know you're not giving him that fat contract. You

703
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: know you're not it's not going to be probably not

704
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: three past three years right. Two is in my mind

705
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: is what's probably yeah, what's too low and their speculation

706
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: on that. But bottom line is, if I'm in the

707
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: front office and my season is a feil and we're

708
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: in season five, maybe I can hang my hat on

709
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: the injuries, okay, and I can give him something else.

710
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: But I know it's not going to be lengthy. So

711
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to have that discussion with you prior to it. Manda, Man, Like,

712
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: this is what I'm a fan of.

713
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: You.

714
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: I like the foundation. This is not the success. I

715
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: got fans turning on me right now. I gotta do something.

716
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 4: And this is how I compromise with this. You know whatever,

717
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: you and I have been in local TV, even though

718
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: you don't go, Hey, my name is Nicole and I'm

719
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: interested in this job. But what's the pay and what's

720
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: the contract look like? But you kind of have an

721
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: eye Ida once you know what I'm saying. That's that's

722
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: the problem that I'm having hours before he's a free agent. Like,

723
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: that's that's the part. I agree with you.

724
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 7: God, Yeah, I don't think it benefits to just this

725
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 7: point to your point, I don't think it benefits really

726
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: anyone given the state of like what your team is

727
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 7: in right now.

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 8: Because let me just say this.

729
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 7: For the people who get ticked off when people mention like, Okay,

730
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 7: well we don't know the head coach, so it puts

731
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 7: us us like a damper on you preparing for draft.

732
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 8: That whole cliche.

733
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: It shouldn't matter draft the best players. I don't know

734
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 7: what world you're living in. They ain't have football work.

735
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 7: Schemes matter, like body types, all that stuff factors into

736
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 7: the way these coaches have an impact on the draft. Now,

737
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 7: you don't need to go BBA, but in doing that,

738
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 7: you are building. We don't know what the coach that

739
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: comes here is gonna want to build.

740
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: You look at Philly Fangio.

741
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 7: They went out and got all these fantastic like that

742
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 7: secondary because the way that Vic Fangio runs his defense,

743
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 7: you gotta be able to come downhill, you gotta be

744
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 7: able to tackle, you gotta be able to read. And

745
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 7: they went and got players that fit that mold. No

746
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 7: different than what Dallas is gonna be. We saw Dan

747
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 7: Quinn's imprint on the draft four years, so stop playing

748
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 7: with me. Stop acting like that's not a thing. But

749
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 7: I will say it doesn't to your again, to revert

750
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 7: back to the original point, it doesn't benefit anyone.

751
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 8: It puts you behind the eight ball.

752
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 7: You're already behind the eight ball, and now you're gonna

753
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 7: have to.

754
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 8: Go into this draft season.

755
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 7: You know, when a new coach coming in, trying to

756
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 7: figure out philosophy all that stuff. Then you're gonna have

757
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 7: to go through a whole new install period. And here's

758
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 7: the thing about bringing in like a new coach and

759
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 7: stuff like that, there are gonna be some growing pains

760
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 7: with learning a new system. You went through it this

761
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 7: year with Mike zimmer even so you went through it

762
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 7: with Mike McCarthy the last two years, three years with

763
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 7: his offense.

764
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 8: Like the first five weeks it was like what is

765
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 8: going on here?

766
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 7: So we know that that's a thing, but you know

767
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 7: what overshadows that just getting more talent. Are you gonna

768
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 7: do that? Are you gonna put yourself in position to Britain.

769
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: That's the thing that makes me worried is like, are

770
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 7: you gonna waste multiple games to start your season because

771
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 7: your team is still trying to get a feel.

772
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 8: For things go and especially have preseason and stuff.

773
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 7: But they also too, are you gonna put the necessarily

774
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 7: necessary talent in this building? You already have talent here.

775
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 7: Are you gonna add some of the role players? Are

776
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 7: you gonna go out in free agency? So the beginning

777
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 7: of this new install in this new coaching regime can

778
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 7: have some success and some confidence as well. So for me,

779
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 7: it's like you're behind the eight ball anyway, you're already behind.

780
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 8: It's not a good look. That's gonna put you behind.

781
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 7: And I will say that maybe a new coaching staff,

782
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 7: depending on who it is, if it's someone innovative, it

783
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 7: will benefit your offense.

784
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: If nothing more. And you say the word waste, I'm

785
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: thinking of Dak Prescott. He's not getting any younger he deserves.

786
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: I feel like when I have, okay, we got some

787
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: young talent quarterbacks, and I feel like he's still a

788
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: top ten quarterback in my mind absolutely. So the time

789
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: is ticking though, Like he's had two really major injuries.

790
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: Going to come back and it's going to be a

791
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: mental thing. He was already struggling being that mobile quarterback.

792
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: If he will going back. You know, they had a

793
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: little joke like Aaron Rodgers got more Russian.

794
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Clarence soy hetty Eddy King, right, LaRence,

795
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: but Clarence, my boy. But that's what I'm saying, like,

796
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: whereas I'm okay with we're gonna be all in, Yeah,

797
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm okay with getting some creative play, calling some creative

798
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: mind in here, right, and I'm tying him into DAK and.

799
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: CD because I got that's my ceiling. I'm not really

800
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: thinking past that because I have the foundation right now

801
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 4: and it's time to go all in. It's time to

802
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: hit free agency because I'm sick watching the Eagles and

803
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: I'm like, that was only five point five man, Yeah,

804
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: then I'm looking at Bobby Oh my god, like sixty

805
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: five ways. All right, you do, It's time to be

806
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: I hate saying it because they said it all season,

807
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: but all in like it really.

808
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: Is, but genuinely all in, like not pretend all in

809
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 5: like actions and words that part. And not only that,

810
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 5: but you look at the laundry list to free agents

811
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 5: that this team has right now.

812
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: You have to It does hurt. It hurts real bad.

813
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 5: You have to decide who your key impact makers were

814
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: on that list and find a way to obtain your

815
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: talent because what you're doing if you don't obtain good

816
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 5: talent in this building is one, to Troy Aigman's point,

817
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: you're making it less attractive for players to want to

818
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: come here because they don't have a longevity in this

819
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 5: building right. And for two, you also aren't building off

820
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: of what you've been coaching them and somewhere that they

821
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: know and that they most likely do want to stay at.

822
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 6: Like it's you have to start there as well.

823
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 5: And then yes, go shopping, get some big names, find

824
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: some good prices, cap room, cap salary, cap space, make room,

825
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: adjust some contracts, figure out, do what you need to

826
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: do to be able to go on in like limiting

827
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: yourself to oh there's no cap space. Be proactive, sign

828
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: your big players first. You know those contracts are coming up.

829
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: Guess who's next, Micah Parsons, figure it out. Like just

830
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 5: procrastinating and constantly putting yourself behind the sticks literally and figuratively,

831
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 5: penalties and outside like I mean, it's not doing anything

832
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: for anybody, and it's the reason that you continue to

833
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 5: be in this bind a year after year.

834
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 8: At this point point about Dak Prescott is this.

835
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 6: Year, why am I being shady?

836
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm planned no you start with the twenty six free agents,

837
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: then you obviously have to prioritize what how you want

838
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: to build around Dak Prescott, how you want to build

839
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: around Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parsons because they are the

840
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: future here.

841
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: It's a long list, got it should be prioritized here

842
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: on this team.

843
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: But I do want to talk about what are some

844
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: who are some options that you feel could build off

845
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: of what Mike McCarthy did with Dak in his growth

846
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: sit on that. We're gonna take our second break here

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Speaker 6: Conversation? Go there there is Yes, Yeah, I want.

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Speaker 4: To figure it's gonna be so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I was literally upstairs, like obviously taking notes on like

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Speaker 2: the whole coaching thing. Yeah, but I was also watching

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to what really matters.

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Speaker 2: And we were just talking about how Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 2: he played a huge role in the development in Dak.

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Speaker 3: Some people believe it was Kellen Moore. You talk about

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one and Dak.

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Speaker 2: Prescott throwing thirty seven touchdown passes, But let's talk about

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy and obviously just putting the installing that confidence

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Speaker 2: in Dak to start being a little bit more mobile,

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Speaker 2: more of an all around quarterback. I think that Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy definitely deserves the credit. But when you look at

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Speaker 2: now no more Mike McCarthy, who can come in here

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Speaker 2: and build off of what he did with Dak.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of head coaching options.

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Speaker 8: There's some options we got Ben.

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Speaker 2: Johnson, Liam Cohen, Cliff Kingsbury, Quingsburry, Oh goodness, straight today

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Speaker 2: is today?

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Speaker 4: Kingsbury, Joe Brady.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna talk Kellen Moore because we already talked Kellen.

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Speaker 6: No, no one want to go with those. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: quit Pee Carroll.

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Speaker 3: We got Pete Carroll as well. Yeah, quite some options out.

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Speaker 4: I wrote two lists. Okay, let's see what you like,

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Speaker 4: but I put what I I think Jerry wants exactly first.

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Speaker 6: You want, yeah, say you're the front office.

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Speaker 4: I'm so. I'm a very anything with the Lions that's

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Speaker 4: attached to it. They had absolutely nothing. I want it, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I want to personally though, for this team and seeing

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Speaker 4: the defense save the offense so many times the offense

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Speaker 4: could not, even when Dak was here. That what make

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Speaker 4: me want that offensive minded OC coming into this building.

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Speaker 4: As much as I'm a fan of that is that's

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Speaker 4: the only thing right, But everything else I think it matches.

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Speaker 4: But I just feel like this team needs that offensive

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Speaker 4: minded creativeness. I'm a little biased because I was saw

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Speaker 4: Joe Brady when he was in LSU. I covered lab

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Speaker 4: during that run. It was fun, fantastic to see and

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Speaker 4: then to see him have that opportunity in Buffalo where

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Speaker 4: that was the time where we had Digs and we

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Speaker 4: OC mid season and took one game. I remember, it

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Speaker 4: was a whole different offense. Yeah, because we started to

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Speaker 4: utilize our running backs. Yes, so yes, that's why I

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Speaker 4: am a wow, right, and just what they're doing now,

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Speaker 4: Like the biggest talk going into that season was Digs

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Speaker 4: is out. The biggest star power is Curtis Samuel and

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Speaker 4: you know, like there was nothing right we got it

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Speaker 4: was just it's still insane to see like this team

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Speaker 4: could We're looking at a Lion's possibly build super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Who would have thought when you get a little creative.

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Speaker 4: So I'll take anybody from either one of that staff

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Speaker 4: to be honest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean retweet like truly.

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Speaker 5: I think for a while now when the whole coaching

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Speaker 5: conversation would come up in waves throughout the season, Ben

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Speaker 5: Johnson was a name that obviously came up because look

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Speaker 5: what he has done and in the best complimented way possible.

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Speaker 5: The problem I see for that though, is will he

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Speaker 5: have the talent to be able to utilize his skill

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Speaker 5: set the most? That's what I worry about because right

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Speaker 5: now you're talking about running the ball.

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Speaker 6: Who's your running back?

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Speaker 5: Rayco's a free agent, like you need the talent to

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Speaker 5: fill in, which is akin why you would prefer to

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Speaker 5: already have talked to some of these guys that we

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Speaker 5: couldgo but here nor there. I'm gonna say the same thing.

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Speaker 5: But also, you want somebody in the Shanahan tree like

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Speaker 5: that seems to be your what, your kryptonite, your dragon.

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Speaker 5: You can't slay every metaphor possible. Somebody that has a

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Speaker 5: record to beat.

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Speaker 6: The Shanahan tree.

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Speaker 5: Who can come in and really teach these guys Dak

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Speaker 5: included just new innovative ways to utilize their skill set.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure, honestly, I.

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Speaker 6: I'm so torn.

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Speaker 5: I'm so torn, But I'm gonna go Ben Johnson. If

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Speaker 5: we're living in my fun little bubble of a world,

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Speaker 5: Jerry bubble of a world is probably different than mine.

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Speaker 5: So I think on that list we kind of have

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Speaker 5: an inkling of who he would pick.

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Speaker 4: But we love Ben here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got thirty seconds. We got a heart out

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Speaker 2: at one fifty. I was told that go.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, So for me, I'm of the same elk.

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Speaker 7: I think that Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn would be

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Speaker 7: fantastic for these young men in the locker room. But

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Speaker 7: I also think Liam Cohen and what he's done with

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay's offense.

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Speaker 8: I remember looking at their film and looking at how they.

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Speaker 7: Run the ball, how creative they are, and that way

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Speaker 7: they run the ball, some of the ways that they

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Speaker 7: use their their receivers as well, So I thought that

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Speaker 7: that was dope.

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Speaker 8: So for me, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: Just somewhat innovative that actually can capture a locker room.

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Speaker 8: That's just all I care about.

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Speaker 4: All right, straight like that, all right, we gotta go

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Speaker 4: on that note.

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