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Speaker 2: the podcast with nick right. So I get asked this
Speaker 2: a lot by parents or young people. Can you give
Speaker 2: me advice? And I don't think advice is helpful because
Speaker 2: we all live very separate different lives. Your career and
Speaker 2: your path is completely different than mine. Mine's completely different
Speaker 2: than Bob Cossis. Yours is completely different than Bob Costas
Speaker 2: Al Michaels and Iron Eagle is that. This is not
Speaker 2: a doctor or an architect or a school teacher. There
Speaker 2: is no path to being a great comedian. Be funnier,
Speaker 2: you'll find you're on stage and more successful. Sing better
Speaker 2: will ultimately help you with you tube in these platforms,
Speaker 2: Just be better, is the answer. So I talked to
Speaker 2: a young guy today and I said, I didn't have Twitter,
Speaker 2: I didn't have YouTube. That's better than a resume. Go
Speaker 2: show your talent. And I was I was saying this
Speaker 2: when when it's like weight loss, eat less, move more,
Speaker 2: you'll lose weight. It's not scientific. Just google it. And
Speaker 2: I was saying, is one of the things I tell
Speaker 2: young people when I speak to them, is the only
Speaker 2: piece of advice I ever got. I'll give you an opinion.
Speaker 2: If you ask me for an opinion on something, I'll
Speaker 2: give you one that's different. I don't give advice. And
Speaker 2: I said, the only time I've read a sentence and
Speaker 2: that I've shared it with people because it rings true
Speaker 2: to me is when I was a kid, I went
Speaker 2: to a Mariner's game upstairs in the booth and Dave Niehause,
Speaker 2: a pretty well known, established iconic Seattle figure, wrote in
Speaker 2: My magazine, might program the program. Ye yeah, if you
Speaker 2: want it bad enough, you'll sit here. And I thought,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like the Vegas Dealer. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2: The advice to all kids, do you want to be me?
Speaker 2: Because I wanted it so bad I'd step on people
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 3: Well, and and I was so I and I wanted it.
Speaker 3: I literally did want to be you. I've told you
Speaker 3: this story I called, and I've maybe told the story
Speaker 3: on the air before I was twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: Literally literally this is and I'm thirty nine, right, so
Speaker 3: I'm twenty four, So this is fifteen years ago. This
Speaker 3: is not nineteen eighty six, right, this is two thousand
Speaker 3: and nine. In two thousand and nine, I signed my
Speaker 3: first contract. Uh no, that's wrong. Twenty ten, I signed
Speaker 3: my first contract. I was making eight dollars an hour,
Speaker 3: and then my contract was to do mid days in
Speaker 3: Kansas City. This is not a bullshit job. It's not
Speaker 3: the greatest job. Right the Kansas are two sports city,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's a big for sports radio.
Speaker 4: It's a good market.
Speaker 3: Signed a contract to do mid days in Kansas City
Speaker 3: for twenty three eight hundred dollars, full time, no benefits,
Speaker 3: but full time. This was I think like when that
Speaker 3: was allowed, and I was thrilled. It was around the
Speaker 3: same time that I started dating my now wife, Like
Speaker 3: I was thrilled, like I am rolling making twenty four grand.
Speaker 3: And at that time I called an agent and said
Speaker 3: my pitch was this, I'm sure you wish Colin Cowherd
Speaker 3: was your client. He's not, and it doesn't appear he's
Speaker 3: ever going to be. If you would like to represent
Speaker 3: the next Colin Cowherd, you'll take me on. That's what
Speaker 3: I did, and this guy started representing me. Shout out
Speaker 3: credit to him. Josh Santry started representing me when I
Speaker 3: was in Kansas City making twenty four grand, and you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, helped me row and evolve. And
Speaker 3: then eventually your agent, Nick con hired and I like that,
Speaker 3: that is so like we grew together. Yeah, and the
Speaker 3: what I so? But the I got a little distracted
Speaker 3: there because that's such a to me, a cool story.
Speaker 3: But the answer is you have to be obsessed with it.
Speaker 3: And this is what I tell my daughter, who's a
Speaker 3: theater major. I'm like, hey, any job, They're like, there's
Speaker 3: a few jobs that are the type the types of
Speaker 3: jobs that win. Little kids get asked in class what
Speaker 3: they want to be. If your job that you want
Speaker 3: is on that list, you better be goddamn obsessed with
Speaker 3: it as an adult or else you got no shot.
Speaker 4: No shot.
Speaker 3: If it is the type of job that people stop
Speaker 3: you on the stream, you're like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 3: a dream job. The only reason that everyone doesn't do
Speaker 3: it is because people don't want to make twenty four
Speaker 3: grand at twenty five years, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And they and I don't want to act like every
Speaker 3: and listen, I've been very lucky. There is obviously some
Speaker 3: natural talent associated with success whatever.
Speaker 4: It is, but the number, I'm not denying any of that.
Speaker 3: But but what for a lot of people, it stops
Speaker 3: being worth it. And I don't like it's just it's
Speaker 3: like man, this is a grind. There's not the You
Speaker 3: work weekends, you work holidays, you don't make money, and
Speaker 3: it's just not worth it anymore.
Speaker 4: And so it.
Speaker 3: Has to be something you have to do is to
Speaker 3: have any chance of succeeding in it.
Speaker 4: And then once it's that, then it is.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't you You've always been
Speaker 3: very complimentary of my talent, but I don't actually think
Speaker 3: I am a talented broadcaster. I think I have a
Speaker 3: very specific talent, which is I'm a great arguer. I'm
Speaker 3: great logically, and I'm great with, you know, figuring out
Speaker 3: debating argument points. But I when I applied to Syracuse, uh,
Speaker 3: when I was doing the tour, I met with the
Speaker 3: dean and the dean said, great resume, great, you know,
Speaker 3: SAT's all this stuff.
Speaker 4: You're the exact type of kid we want to have here.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, you'll never be a radio personality
Speaker 4: of too nasaly of a voice. It won't work at Syracuse.
Speaker 3: I got cut from the student radio station because I
Speaker 3: couldn't figure it out like I It wasn't like some
Speaker 3: you know, I look at Noah Eagle, and obviously Noah Egle,
Speaker 3: I get his dad's Eyeon Eagle. But the kid is talented.
Speaker 3: Kid's got great voice, got a great presence. Like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's got real broadcasting talent. I was just wildly obsessed
Speaker 3: with it, wildly obsessed with it, and was like, I
Speaker 3: am going to force my way through it, which is
Speaker 3: really how you get from I went from twenty four
Speaker 3: grand a year in Kansas City to the TV show
Speaker 3: on FS one in seven years. From when I signed
Speaker 3: that contract in Kansas City to when the TV show
Speaker 3: launched in New York City. That was seven years. And
Speaker 3: it was, yes, a ton of good fortune and good
Speaker 3: luck and good timing, but it was just I was
Speaker 3: wildly obsessed with it, which is the number one thing
Speaker 3: you've got to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's the best advice is that when
Speaker 2: people when parents come up and I you know, anything
Speaker 2: that you don't want to give them cliches, work hard,
Speaker 2: read everything, you know, be detail oriented, and then you
Speaker 2: kind of appease the parents, you know, placate the parents.
Speaker 2: But it really is Jake Laser's talked about this before.
Speaker 2: The people that are great in the NFL, they're crazy,
Speaker 2: they're obsessed.
Speaker 3: Crazy, Right, That's exactly right. And it's that's again because
Speaker 3: that's a dream job. That's a dream job like that,
Speaker 3: there is no and that's.
Speaker 4: You know, I worry. I do worry.
Speaker 3: About my my eighteen year old daughter because what she
Speaker 3: wants to do is about the as hard of a
Speaker 3: field as there is.
Speaker 4: She wants to be an actress.
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, even the successful ones like struggle
Speaker 3: for a long time and all of these things. But
Speaker 3: who am I to say, don't follow your dreams? Follow
Speaker 3: your dreams. But it's like, there's if you are in
Speaker 3: the dream chasing business, you gotta chase it, like that's
Speaker 3: the that's the quote that I like.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: I will support dream chasing as long as you're fucking chasing.
Speaker 3: I won't support dream daydreaming, like oh I want to
Speaker 3: be this, I wonder how it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: I gotta see that you are that you want it.
Speaker 3: And the other thing, if there's young people listening that
Speaker 3: I that I tell them that is different now than
Speaker 3: you know previous eras is you do. What is I
Speaker 3: think good advice, because I do give this advice is
Speaker 3: just do it. You want to be a talk show
Speaker 3: host and you don't have a talk show. Just pretend
Speaker 3: the way you pretended in your bedroom. Now anyone can
Speaker 3: pretend on YouTube and make the channel private if you want.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, it's not about getting the number
Speaker 3: of subscribers or viewers. It's about the reps. It's about
Speaker 3: When I first started, I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 3: the funny guy.
Speaker 4: On the radio.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, Nope, that's not the lane.
Speaker 3: I need to be ardent, prick. That's the lane for me,
Speaker 3: and it'll work. And so like the only way to
Speaker 3: do it is to do it to actually get the
Speaker 3: reps in. And so yeah, that's the advice I give.
Speaker 3: And then make sure you do a little check every
Speaker 3: six months, be like do I still love this? Do
Speaker 3: I still want to do this?
Speaker 2: That's good advice. Okay, here's something else I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: at you. I've gotten in discussions with friends about this,
Speaker 2: is that I don't have a single wacko friend. I
Speaker 2: don't know anybody that's an election denier. There's a distortion
Speaker 2: bubble out there that the craziest people get amplified on
Speaker 2: your facebooks, algorithms, on social platforms, that there's not as
Speaker 2: many wackos as you think even the people that like
Speaker 2: Trump don't like a lot about him, They just hate
Speaker 2: the other side more so. There's a new poll by
Speaker 2: Associated Press and the Noirk Center for Public Affairs and Research,
Speaker 2: and what they found is striking similarities. How Americans think
Speaker 2: almost a ninety percent agreement on rights to vote, equal
Speaker 2: protection under the law, right to freedom of religion, freedom
Speaker 2: of speech, right to privacy. Almost eighty percent think the
Speaker 2: right to own a gun is very important to protect.
Speaker 2: And what they found over and over and over there
Speaker 2: are very few fringe people. The media tends to give
Speaker 2: them oxygen, the algorithms completely feed them on social networks
Speaker 2: is that there's a complete distortion about what is acceptable
Speaker 2: what is not. Almost all people want less crime. How
Speaker 2: to solve it may be different, but we mostly want
Speaker 2: the same things. And this goes back to conversations I've
Speaker 2: had with people. I'm like, I can't live on an island.
Speaker 2: I hang out in cities like Chicago. Tonight, I go
Speaker 2: to a Warriors Lakers game in Los Angeles. I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm politically dissimilar to most of them. We're all
Speaker 2: kind of looking for the same thing. So and I
Speaker 2: think one of the jobs this is where I think
Speaker 2: big tech can be incredibly harmful. But I do think
Speaker 2: the media, especially the political media, does a really bad
Speaker 2: job at one thing, giving oxygen to the fringes. And
Speaker 2: one of the things I've really worked on, like I've
Speaker 2: really gotten off social media. I don't associate with wackos
Speaker 2: on the internet because successful, smart people, happy people are
Speaker 2: not on the internet all day. So you're talking with
Speaker 2: lonely losers. Your thoughts on this study.
Speaker 1: Well, I wish I were quite as optimistic as you,
Speaker 1: because I think the study, while I don't doubt the
Speaker 1: veracity of it, leaves out a few maybe and I.
Speaker 4: Haven't read it.
Speaker 3: I'm listening to you important details, which is so ninety
Speaker 3: percent of the country, you know what I mean might
Speaker 3: not be election deniers in fringe and extreme, but a
Speaker 3: guy who's got about a fifty eight to sixty percent
Speaker 3: chance of running the country is.
Speaker 4: And so that seems problematic.
Speaker 3: So it can be like, you know, we agree on
Speaker 3: the January sixth was bad, and that all these things,
Speaker 3: the ninety percent of us agree, but it's somehow through
Speaker 3: the on the way of agreement to the polls were like,
Speaker 3: but the biggest voice who doesn't agree clearly is now
Speaker 3: in charge of everything that seems a little scary. And
Speaker 3: when you say big tech amplifies it, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's accidental. And I do wonder when some of the richest,
Speaker 3: most powerful people in the world seem to have authoritarian leanings.
Speaker 4: Like why is that?
Speaker 3: And you know who benefits from that? How much do
Speaker 3: they benefit from that? And then there is this factor,
Speaker 3: which is, let's say it's not even ten percent of
Speaker 3: the country, that's just fucking nuts. Let's go lower, let's
Speaker 3: go five percent. Well, I'm pretty good at math. We
Speaker 3: got three hundred and fifty million Americans. Five percent. That's
Speaker 3: still seventeen to eighteen million people you got to corral
Speaker 3: and deal with in some capacity. We're not a small
Speaker 3: it's not a party, but there's like twenty five people
Speaker 3: here and it's like, okay, a couple of them are nuts.
Speaker 3: So I am, I am, I do agree with this.
Speaker 3: What I find fascinating is, and what maybe the poll
Speaker 3: was getting at, is the idea that you ask someone
Speaker 3: what they're If you don't ask someone what their political
Speaker 3: leanings are, you say, how do you feel about this topic,
Speaker 3: how do you feel about this topic? How do you
Speaker 3: feel about this topic. You will find a ton of
Speaker 3: common ground, a ton of common ground on the most
Speaker 3: hot button issues, on guns, on immigration, on abortion, a
Speaker 3: ton of common ground.
Speaker 4: And I think, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure that's what this study is showing, but that doesn't
Speaker 3: seem represented that common ground and a lot of the
Speaker 3: levers of power in this country, and that to me
Speaker 3: is concerning. And it does seem like the divisions are
Speaker 3: being further exacerbated over the last ten years.
Speaker 4: Gills to me them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think cable news feeds into tribalism.
Speaker 2: I don't think in most instances the crazy people have
Speaker 2: any power. I think I mean it's there's a division
Speaker 2: of people. And you know, I don't think Trump's going
Speaker 2: to win. I don't think it's going to be particularly close.
Speaker 2: I really don't. I think he doesn't get independents. I
Speaker 2: think he doesn't give women. Uh, you know, women are
Speaker 2: either going to have the same rights with their body
Speaker 2: as I am, or you're not gonna win. Your party
Speaker 2: is going to really struggle. He's lost elections people connect
Speaker 2: to do him or losing elections. I think the news
Speaker 2: over the next six months, as Democrats are raising almost
Speaker 2: seventy five percent more money is bad news for that side,
Speaker 2: regardless of what I think, I don't view. I think
Speaker 2: it will be.
Speaker 3: Well, if that's true, then then we could If that
Speaker 3: is true, then we could have maybe a reorientation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because and I think it could be because let's just
Speaker 3: assume you're that's correct.
Speaker 4: I you know, I the I don't know.
Speaker 3: That I am as pessimistic about Trump's chances as you
Speaker 3: seem to be. But let's assume that's correct. If that
Speaker 3: is correct, then I think what and I wish I
Speaker 3: had had a better grasp on the specific details of
Speaker 3: when we have seen this happen over the two hundred
Speaker 3: and forty year history of American history. But you've seen
Speaker 3: it happen at least three times where a political party
Speaker 3: itself bifurcates, where what you have is a party split
Speaker 3: and because of that that party goes through a time
Speaker 3: of reorientation and is out of power for a bit.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that that necessarily.
Speaker 2: That's the GOP. In my opinion, that's what I.
Speaker 4: Will So that's what I would wonder if we would
Speaker 4: have happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I wonder if Trump were to lose this,
Speaker 3: I do wonder if because he's not ever going to
Speaker 3: admit he lost anything, he's not ever going to quit.
Speaker 3: So then does he does there become almost like the
Speaker 3: Whig Party, like a third party that is just call
Speaker 3: it the Trumpers, and it peels off the craziest portion
Speaker 3: of the what is now called the Republican Party, and
Speaker 3: then what is left of the Republican Party can reorient
Speaker 3: and the way it remakes itself is by peeling off
Speaker 3: maybe you know, disillusioned center left Democrats. It's like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, not to bring this kind
Speaker 3: of cliche, but where Mitt Romney asks, people are like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is what the party is again, because I think
Speaker 3: a party like that. I'm not trying to betray your politics,
Speaker 3: but I think you would listen to that Republican Party,
Speaker 3: and I bet you have in your life. I think
Speaker 3: it is probably hard for you and your friends to
Speaker 3: even listen to a Republican Party that is led by Trump.
Speaker 3: It's like this is just nuts, but you would listen,
Speaker 3: And so I wonder if that would happen if he loses.
Speaker 3: If he wins, then it's a different story entirely.
Speaker 4: Obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to the UFC fight Saturday with Ann
Speaker 2: and a couple of buddies. Is I keep it?
Speaker 4: You'll see him there? Give him. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not that I don't have passion about politics, but
Speaker 2: I don't. I have strong feelings about it. But I
Speaker 2: do think, like the poll on a Associated Press is
Speaker 2: that I think cooler heads eventually prevail. I think this
Speaker 2: nation overwhelmingly makes the right decision. I'm going to the
Speaker 2: Warriors Lakers tonight. J Mack got me seats and then
Speaker 2: I upgraded in the middle of the show and got
Speaker 2: better seats.
Speaker 4: Hold on, wait a minute, hold on, what do you mean,
Speaker 4: J Matck got you seats? Well?
Speaker 2: I said I wanted to go to the game, and
Speaker 2: J Matt goes, I have seats and I said, where
Speaker 2: are they? I don't want to sit up with the pigeons.
Speaker 2: Where are they? And he said, go in a pretty
Speaker 2: good seats and then he showed me there like seventeen
Speaker 2: rows up and I'm like, okay, And I talked about
Speaker 2: it on the air. Three minutes later, somebody called and said,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm ten rows behind the Laker bench, and
Speaker 2: I said, and then I was going to call Draymond
Speaker 2: Green here at the volume and see if I could
Speaker 2: get better seats. But I thought, I'm gonna wait for
Speaker 2: a playoff game. I don't want to bother Draymond Green.
Speaker 2: So you know that's good.
Speaker 4: I like, that's going to be a good game. Hey,
Speaker 4: it's going to be a good game. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: So this is I'm going to you Saturday night. So
Speaker 2: this is the time of the year, after the football season,
Speaker 2: I start going to stuff and so can I throw
Speaker 2: this at you? So my wife does not like Los
Speaker 2: Angeles and this has been going.
Speaker 4: You know, I was gonna fit.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask about that because she seems to
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time not in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't need to get into too many details.
Speaker 2: But I have a place in Chicago and am searching
Speaker 2: in Chicago for different things, and so I'm gonna buy
Speaker 2: some season tickets to the Bulls and Blackhawks. It's a suite,
Speaker 2: like four people. You can bring friends. You're in Chicago,
Speaker 2: I can bring you and you know, you can get
Speaker 2: food bar all that stuff, like second level stuff. I
Speaker 2: I like sitting on the floor more. But if I'm
Speaker 2: going with my wife and she's all dulled up and
Speaker 2: you know, you want dinner, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 3: So for the NBA, I think I prefer lower level,
Speaker 3: as close to the court as the fossil hockey. I
Speaker 3: think the sweet could be better unless you're right on
Speaker 3: the glass. This seems like a yeah, I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: a good setup. And I heard you mentioned this to
Speaker 3: Parkins last week, so I was gonna ask you about it.
Speaker 4: So go ahead. Yeah, you're gonna get the set up
Speaker 4: in Chicago.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to get the setup in Chicago. And
Speaker 2: I've and I've got to be honest with you, is
Speaker 2: because sometimes what we do and I do mornings, it's
Speaker 2: really hard in Los Angeles because I have to get
Speaker 2: up at like five thirty in the morning. So I
Speaker 2: don't want to be getting in my car at nine
Speaker 2: twenty eight in Los Angeles, a forty minute drive home.
Speaker 2: Get to bet you're all amped up. And so in Chicago,
Speaker 2: if I move my show to Chicago, think about this
Speaker 2: show starts at eleven, I get up at eight.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're doing mid days then, but you're doing
Speaker 4: mid days with the mornings.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm thinking about quality.
Speaker 4: Wow, are you breaking news here? No? This is Are
Speaker 4: you sure you want to include this on the podcast.
Speaker 3: This is going to be aggregated, This is gonna be
Speaker 3: the I mean, go ahead to Jersey Down.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking quality of life now, because this is a
Speaker 2: big deal. This is I'm not going to get into negotiations.
Speaker 2: I have ten months left or whatever at both my
Speaker 2: all my contracts, and one of the things I've thought
Speaker 2: about is quality of life. My wife doesn't love Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: We have friends here, but it's a three hour flight.
Speaker 2: I don't get you know, I'm going to plane every weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't give a rip. Delta has been good to me.
Speaker 2: So I've been thinking about this, and I, well, what
Speaker 2: do you think about this? I'd still be in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: you know, for stuff. But what if I did my
Speaker 2: show in Chicago. My wife loves it. I love the city.
Speaker 2: I love where we live. I'm twelve minutes to the
Speaker 2: Bulls games. I could literally have a life at night.
Speaker 2: I want to go to games. I want to go
Speaker 2: to concerts. I've given that up in my life, my
Speaker 2: whole life. I'm like eleven o'clock news guy and then
Speaker 2: morning radio guy. Enough already, I want to go to
Speaker 2: games at night, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So listen I am and I know. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is gonna obviously be this is real news. It's
Speaker 3: going to be aggregated. I don't really feel totally comfortable,
Speaker 3: but that's fine.
Speaker 4: Here's what I would say. You're Colin Coward and you
Speaker 4: just turned sixty. You kind of do whatever you want
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: You're you're in a spot where you are able to
Speaker 3: be like, hey, this is these are the parameters under
Speaker 3: which I you know that this makes sense for me?
Speaker 3: No hard feelings in any direction, like that's that is
Speaker 3: what you know? I the I again, I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring up someone who I have massive
Speaker 3: respect for and has been incredibly kind to me, even
Speaker 3: though we've never actually met in person. I don't know
Speaker 3: what all went into SVP getting the studio in the
Speaker 3: DC area, right, but I'm sure it was something along
Speaker 3: the lines of I'm SVP and this is.
Speaker 4: What I want. You know what I mean, and it
Speaker 4: makes sense. I'm a I'm a performer, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I produce for you. This makes my life better,
Speaker 4: So let's find way to make it work for me.
Speaker 4: The biggest winner. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Sean Hannity doing a show from Naples half the time,
Speaker 2: guys are doing it from Long Island. Tucker Carlson was
Speaker 2: in Maine for the record. Fox has been great. iHeartRadio,
Speaker 2: but that they don't have a problem with it. But
Speaker 2: I I like l A and I'd still be here
Speaker 2: for a lot of you know, during the football season,
Speaker 2: especially especially in January February, and find myself here at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fall there.
Speaker 3: But the second the biggest winner of this, if it
Speaker 3: were to happen, is Ann Yes, your wife. The second
Speaker 3: biggest winner I think is new friend of the podcast
Speaker 3: Danny Parkins. You know what I mean, You're down the street,
Speaker 3: I I mean j mack hot seat coming up, Like
Speaker 3: that's a.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a real I mean, you're just right there.
Speaker 3: But that would be I mean, listen, I think that's
Speaker 3: I think that's fascinating. I obviously I heard you talk
Speaker 3: about getting season tickets and that kind of struck me.
Speaker 3: I was, like, you live in LA But I also know,
Speaker 3: just from knowing you personally and talking to you that
Speaker 3: your I mean, your wife seemed to spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time in Utah and Chicago, so you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, unless she had a warrant in California.
Speaker 4: It didn't make a ton of sense that you know it.
Speaker 2: Well, you get to a point where and I've and
Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons I created this company.
Speaker 2: Is if if things didn't work out, if like I
Speaker 2: couldn't come to an agreement the next day, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: You know, Tucker Carlson leaves, he didn't have a company.
Speaker 2: I can talk for hours about any subject I want to.
Speaker 2: And so you know, this is something I've I've thought
Speaker 2: a lot about, I've talked a lot about. Is I'm
Speaker 2: sixty years old. I've done really well for myself. I've
Speaker 2: been smart with my money. I have given up for years.
Speaker 2: I did the eleven o'clock news, and you know, you
Speaker 2: give up a lot, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like now I do morning stuff. I would like
Speaker 2: to go to more. Like I had to take a
Speaker 2: big nap this afternoon because I'm going to the Warriors Lakers.
Speaker 2: I'll have to take a sleeping pill. This is on
Speaker 2: myself out tonight. And I found when I go to
Speaker 2: Chicago and then I have a blast. We're going out
Speaker 2: every single night doing fun stuff.
Speaker 3: And so the the well, I mean, the other element
Speaker 3: is and this is where you know, shout out to
Speaker 3: U Skip, who's done this schedule for forever. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: super early mornings, but I you know, I did the
Speaker 3: super super early mornings in New York up until eighteen
Speaker 3: months ago, and before that, I did morning radio in Houston.
Speaker 3: And that the it's yes, waking up sucks, like everybody
Speaker 3: knows waking up sucks. Whatever, But so what, that's not
Speaker 3: really the problem. The problem is what you're alluding to,
Speaker 3: which is the lack of thing, the stuff you can't
Speaker 3: do at night. Yeah, that you want to be able
Speaker 3: to do, you know what I mean, the the the
Speaker 3: friends dinners, you know what I mean that you know
Speaker 3: are going late and people are drinking wine and you're like,
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I can't make that or I
Speaker 3: can't make that happen. And certainly the NBA games, Like
Speaker 3: it's when I was doing mornings, people would ask me
Speaker 3: all the time, like how are you able to watch
Speaker 3: the games? And I'm like, well, watching the games is
Speaker 3: not that hard because I'm laying in bed. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I'm laying in bed watching
Speaker 3: the game, and the moment it's over, I can be
Speaker 3: asleep within thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: Really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If it's a late night West Coast Lakers game and
Speaker 3: I'm in New York when I'm doing mornings and I
Speaker 3: gotta be up at four am or back then I
Speaker 3: had to be up at three thirty, I just fall asleep,
Speaker 3: get three hours of sleep and.
Speaker 4: Then taken half at the urd of the day. But
Speaker 4: you can't do is go What.
Speaker 3: You can't do is go to anything late because then
Speaker 3: it's another all of it. So yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: I mean that that'd be I mean, that's unbelievable. And
Speaker 3: like the NBA this time of year, it is so excited.
Speaker 2: Oh it's great.
Speaker 3: And being and being there is great and being I
Speaker 3: know that, you know you're and like's life, music and
Speaker 3: events and things like that.
Speaker 4: We went to by the way, I'll send you the clip.
Speaker 4: Pretty cool. So we went to.
Speaker 3: Me and my wife and my older daughter went to
Speaker 3: see Drake and Lil Wayne at the Prudential Center in
Speaker 3: Newark Friday night, and Lil Wayne threw FS one and
Speaker 3: I've become very good friends. And when he took the stage,
Speaker 3: when he took the stage, the first words out of
Speaker 3: his mouth were a shout out to Nick Wright and
Speaker 3: his family. Thanks for being here, and that's the greatest
Speaker 3: rapper arguably to ever live, shouting at my daughter almost
Speaker 3: passed out, and then after the concert got to see him.
Speaker 3: But that type of thing, if I was doing mornings,
Speaker 3: if it wasn't on a Friday night, I just couldn't
Speaker 3: have gone. You know what I mean, we were back home.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even that late of a night, like we
Speaker 3: were back home at midnight. But I couldn't have done
Speaker 3: that when I was doing mornings unless it happened to
Speaker 3: me on a Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 4: So I understand that entirely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's in for the record. I love LA,
Speaker 2: I've got my friends here. It's not like I'd abandoned
Speaker 2: like you know, I know that I really like so
Speaker 2: many things. I got. My daughter lives here, my stepson's
Speaker 2: there's a lot here I like. But it is when
Speaker 2: you get older and you established things. Podcasting Nick to
Speaker 2: me has been I'm not a podcaster. I'm a broadcaster
Speaker 2: who can do a podcast, but I don't consider myself
Speaker 2: a podcaster. But I will say one of the great
Speaker 2: things about the volume is I don't need marketing dollars.
Speaker 2: I don't need real estate as I can do it
Speaker 2: wherever I want. I'm in a tiny little room right
Speaker 2: now in my house. I don't watch other podcasters, but
Speaker 2: outside of a Joe Rogan, most people don't have a studio.
Speaker 2: They're in their house. Nobody cares. This is an audio business,
Speaker 2: and so the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't know where, Like I don't know
Speaker 3: where uh where, I mean, I don't know for certain
Speaker 3: where Shannon does the night camp, but I would bet
Speaker 3: anything he has built out. You know, he has used
Speaker 3: a room in his house for a studio and he
Speaker 3: walks down the hall and does that, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And then he's and it looks great, it
Speaker 3: looks professional, it looks awesome.
Speaker 4: But he doesn't have to go somewhere to.
Speaker 3: Do it, which is I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 3: people want to tell now I'm in my office. Hence
Speaker 3: the penance on the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Shannon, Shannon walks right down in his place
Speaker 2: to do that. And you know that that That's one
Speaker 2: of the things that when Shannon left f S one
Speaker 2: and came over, I said, listen, this is going to
Speaker 2: be an easier life. It'll be a really fun life.
Speaker 2: Is that I'm not really a helicopter boss, go entertain America.
Speaker 2: I'll find you staff, help elevate the show. And you know,
Speaker 2: he did a great job. He was a big fan
Speaker 2: of O Joe and Gilbert Arenas. They've been great with him.
Speaker 2: But and he had real connections there, and he had
Speaker 2: good instincts, very good broadcasting instincts. But that I think
Speaker 2: that that is one of the things that I've thought
Speaker 2: about continually is that this is there are certain cultures
Speaker 2: that change as you age in all industries. And you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm a big believer in the four day work week.
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in Barry Diller, one of the
Speaker 2: smartest guys in the history of media, is a big
Speaker 2: believer in we are moving to four days a week
Speaker 2: and Friday is flexible that you don't really have to
Speaker 2: come in on Fridays. You can zoom that people you know,
Speaker 2: people now are going to if you don't offer that,
Speaker 2: they're going to move to companies that do. And young
Speaker 2: people have so much mobility now, and like I'll give
Speaker 2: you an example in Los Angeles, it's virtually impossible for
Speaker 2: talented young people both making eighty ninety one hundred a
Speaker 2: year to buy a house and not have to drive
Speaker 2: an hour and a half to work. Well, what if
Speaker 2: those at the volume, I've allowed people to go live
Speaker 2: in Charlotte, go live in Chicago. My CEO lives in
Speaker 2: Della or New Hampshire. So the reality is the quality
Speaker 2: of people that I've accumulated at the volume because they're
Speaker 2: allowed to live anywhere. I mean, I could go to
Speaker 2: any company and poach people and say, four days a
Speaker 2: week during the football season, Sunday and Monday are actually
Speaker 2: huge huge. Saturday is kind of big, Thursday, Friday. Arn't
Speaker 2: you make your schedule. You just got to work Sunday.
Speaker 2: And it's remarkable the quality of people you can find,
Speaker 2: Like our staff is full of like incredibly talented people.
Speaker 3: Well, and and that is something I don't know enough
Speaker 3: about corporate America because I've never had like a real
Speaker 3: job to know how this is gonna, you know, play
Speaker 3: out over the next fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 4: But there is the being able to.
Speaker 3: Draw from as wide of a field as possible, because
Speaker 3: it's not you're not only drawing from your geographical region
Speaker 3: where people can get, you know, within a sixty minute
Speaker 3: drive to your office space. You would have to think
Speaker 3: that the most flexible as far as the wider net
Speaker 3: you have is I can hire anyone in the country
Speaker 3: because there is no specific place they have to get
Speaker 3: to every day truck, you would be able to find
Speaker 3: the most talented people as opposed to I can only
Speaker 3: hire people around my geographic footprint.
Speaker 4: That's just obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's why I would argue hockey, baseball,
Speaker 2: and basketball are so talented now because they're not domestic.
Speaker 2: Football is really American, our classic football is you know,
Speaker 2: the pads, it's I mean, this labyrinth of college programs
Speaker 2: feeding it. It's just different. You know, Canada doesn't have that,
Speaker 2: Europe doesn't have sort of our collegiate system. But once
Speaker 2: you can go global and get people, it's remarkable to
Speaker 2: the volume. I've got people in Sarasota, in New Hampshire
Speaker 2: and Delaware. We have six people on these calls. I
Speaker 2: don't even know where they live. I think one lives
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. You're right now in New York.
Speaker 4: I'm in New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm in a closet at my house.
Speaker 4: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The So you think that Chicago takes going to aggregate.
Speaker 4: I know what's going to I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't go on those sites. So can you send
Speaker 2: it to me when it happens?
Speaker 4: Well, I listened. I'm sure someone one of your producers will.
Speaker 4: I mean, can you guys just blur my face when
Speaker 4: we're talking about what if? What if?
Speaker 2: Though? Think about this possibility? What if I just I
Speaker 2: just left broadcasting and just did this. Do you think
Speaker 2: I'd be as happy if I just did the volume?
Speaker 2: I talked to friends, I did this. I did ninety
Speaker 2: minutes a day with JAMAC, maybe two hours a day,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really do the broadcasting and I just
Speaker 2: did this.
Speaker 4: Wait, hold on what you just said. You did ninety
Speaker 4: minutes a day with JAMAC. That's what is that?
Speaker 3: The volume?
Speaker 2: And we do a show but I got two hours
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 4: Oh, I get it.
Speaker 3: I understand. No, I don't think you'd be as happy.
Speaker 3: I think that you want to. I think there is
Speaker 3: I think you would at some point feel not as
Speaker 3: in it you feel right now.
Speaker 4: Even if media's changed and all these things.
Speaker 3: I get it, like there is an element of for anyway,
Speaker 3: and maybe for younger people than us. It's different, and
Speaker 3: I honestly you know we're not the same age, but
Speaker 3: we are, even though we're different generations where something too.
Speaker 4: I'm on fucking TV every day.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I know media has changed, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't, but I mean you would. I don't think
Speaker 3: you'd be unhappy, but I don't know if you'd be
Speaker 3: as handy.
Speaker 4: I will tell you.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm being selfish because I would be sad. I
Speaker 3: would be sadder if you would. If we weren't working
Speaker 3: in the same place.
Speaker 2: You would be sadder. Will you'd be with me once
Speaker 2: a week on this thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I understand, but it's still not like I like
Speaker 4: that your show leads into my show.
Speaker 2: I like that. How about this? Anna always makes fun
Speaker 2: of me when I because I compartmentalized stuff, I said,
Speaker 2: And do you understand I get free parking and free
Speaker 2: coffee it focks and a smoothie when I leave every day.
Speaker 2: I get like twelve grand a year. And my wife
Speaker 2: is like, that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard of
Speaker 2: my life. And I'm like, do you understand the ease?
Speaker 2: Like I told one time, I told a broadcaster I knew,
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 4: Free shirts too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I told a broadcaster, I said, you know,
Speaker 2: the makeup ladies come in and they kind of a
Speaker 2: little bit of a three minute heir massage and they
Speaker 2: kind of just kind of get you ready, And I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting that on a podcast. I'm not getting that.
Speaker 4: No, you're not. And well, if you are, you got
Speaker 4: to hire them. You gotta do you gotta do all
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 2: That's an HR nightmare, right, you.
Speaker 4: Don't want to. You don't have to hire.
Speaker 3: No, you don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't know if these this last three minutes. I
Speaker 4: assume this is not for the pod.
Speaker 3: Uh, Colin, enjoy the game. Tell your buddy Draymond. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not sorry for the things I said on television today,
Speaker 3: but I understand why he might not have liked.
Speaker 2: He's offended people a few times. But thanks so much
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