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There are things I know about Sandy 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: that I only know because she wrote them down herself 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: more than four decades ago. She was a planner, a 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: checkbook balancer, and the type of teen who kept detailed 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: notes about her life. Among the things that Kim, her cousin, 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: gave me to look through is a date book that 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: Sandy used to track the laws last two years of 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: her life nineteen seventy six. In nineteen seventy seven, on 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: the front of the date book is a picturesque winter scene, 50 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and on the inside of the cover is a poem. 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: The final lines read, as you close your eyes in slumber, 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: do you think that God will say you have earned 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: one more tomorrow by the work you did today. The 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: first entry in Sandy's calendar is in March of nineteen 55 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: seventy six, when Sandy was still a senior in high school. 56 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Her entries are sparse in the beginning, but by August 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the pages are filled with her soft cursive handwriting. August, 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I think, is when Sandy met her boyfriend. She wrote 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: in her calendar, met Doug the fourth went out the eleventh, 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: and the twenty third he got his new police car. 61 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: He was twenty eight to her eighteen years of age. 62 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: She marked down his birthday in both years of her calendar, 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: but she wouldn't live long enough to see him turn 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Doug had been married for a few years 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: by the time he met Sandy. In her calendar, Sandy 66 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: marked down the days they met together, as well as 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: his absences, like when he was going to be out 68 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: of town hunting. She described him as six foot one 69 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pounds, blue eyes, and brown hair. 70 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: There's a photo she kept where he's wearing his Maryland 71 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: State Trooper uniform. He's holding his car door open, parked 72 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: in front of a McDonald's. The picture is blurry, but 73 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: he's smiling and making eye contact with someone out of frame. 74 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: By December of nineteen seventy six, the tone of Sandy's 75 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: calendar changed, went to doctor, she wrote, and then the 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: next week set aside money. By January, numbers start appearing 77 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: sixty days, eighty days. Sandy drew a square around the 78 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: date January thirteenth and wrote, eight, am, I'd seen that 79 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: date before. It's on a receipt from the Women's Medical 80 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Center of Washington, DC that was found in her purse 81 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: on the morning of her death. The receipt was for 82 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five dollars and seventy cents. The 83 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: payment was for an abortion. I think the running tab 84 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: of numbers in her calendar was her attempt to estimate 85 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: how far along in her pregnancy she was. The following week, 86 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: she scrawled forget it in capital letters across one of 87 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: the pages of her calendar. Within a month of having 88 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: the abortion, she was dead. From iHeartRadio, I'm Melissa Jelson, 89 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: and this is what happened to Sandy Beale an iHeart 90 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: original podcast, Chapter two, Dear Doug. After a couple of days, 91 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: when I tried to get my mind together, I called 92 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: the doctor. He said, I cannot give you any answers, 93 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: And I said, doctor Boyle, I said she's dead. I said, 94 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: she's gone. Can't you give me the answers that I 95 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: need to have? And what did he tell me? He 96 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: told me that she had come to him, that she 97 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: had had the abortion, that she was bleeding. This was 98 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: all new information to Joanne. Sandy had kept her pregnancy 99 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: and her abortion a secret from her family. Her mom 100 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: learned about this for the first time at the police 101 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: precinct after Sandy's death, But Sandy did confide in someone 102 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: her family, physician, doctor Boyle. She went to him in 103 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: December when she would have been a few months pregnant, 104 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and then again after the abortion. Sandy was experiencing some 105 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: residual bleeding and wanted to make sure she was okay, 106 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and he said, I want you to go into the 107 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: hospital and I will take care of you. She didn't 108 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: want to. She was scared too because she would have 109 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: to tell us. She would have you know, everybody would 110 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: have known, and she was embarrassed. I've thought a lot 111 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: about how stressful this unexpected pregnancy must have been for Sandy. 112 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: She was already in a hidden relationship with a married 113 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: police officer. If they were discovered, it could be catastrophic. Now, 114 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: at eighteen, she believed she was pregnant with his child. 115 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Sandy was living with secrets upon secrets upon secrets. We 116 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: don't know how Sandy came to the decision to have 117 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: an abortion, or how long she considered her options, or 118 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: if she was influenced by anyone else, but ultimately she 119 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: ended up at a clinic in downtown DC. When I 120 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: first learned about this, I had so many questions. What 121 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: would it have been like to terminate a pregnancy in 122 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, only four years after Roe v. Wade 123 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: made access to abortion at constitutional right. How did Sandy 124 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: pay for it? How did she get home? A lot 125 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: of these answers are lost to time, and the Women's 126 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Medical Center of DC is closed now. But I was 127 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: able to track down a former employee who worked at 128 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: the clinic at the time Sandy would have visited. That's 129 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: how I met Kathy. I will share my story. When 130 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, I was abducted and assaulted and helped 131 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: for a number of days. Was horrific. Well. I was 132 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: abducted midday from a city street in blue jeans and 133 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: a peacoat, so straight up abduction assault it was not questionable. 134 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: I am well aware that police do not always do 135 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: the detective work they should be doing, because they sure didn't. 136 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Kathy was abducted and raped in Saint Louis in nineteen 137 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine. She was able to escape, but it was 138 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: understandably a life altering experience, and my grandmother, who was 139 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: completely uneducated, but escaped from the Warsaw ghetto, and she said, 140 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: in a very dear Eastern European voice, darling, you have 141 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: a choice. You can hide, you can get very sad, 142 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: or you can speak your truth and teach something about this. 143 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Those words stayed with me a very long time. There 144 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: with me still. Kathy chose to speak her truth. She 145 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: became an activist involved in the women's reproductive rights movement. 146 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: She received her PhD in counseling and in the mid 147 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies began working at the Women's Medical Center of DC. 148 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: She started as a mental health counselor working with patients 149 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: and later became the director of the counseling center there. 150 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: So we were in a large office building, was very spacious, 151 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: It was very comfortable. One could come in for birth 152 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: control counseling, or abortion counseling, or crisis counseling, incess counseling 153 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: wide array. Kathy reminded me that this was all pre 154 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: internet and pre cell phones. She said, Sandy likely would 155 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: have heard of the clinic through word of mouth or 156 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: been referred by her doctor. It was also before at 157 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: home pregnancy tests became widely available in the US, so 158 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: to confirm that she was pregnant. Sandy would have had 159 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: to have visited a doctor. 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The revelation that Sandy had 233 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: had an abortion provided a motive for Doug. Sandy was 234 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: a complication in his life. The Bills didn't necessarily imagine 235 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: that Doug had an elaborate plan to get rid of Sandy. Instead, 236 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: they thought that maybe there had been an altercation of 237 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: some kind. Kim's theory as to why Sandy had the 238 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: gun with her that night is that maybe she was 239 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: trying to scare Doug and maybe things just got out 240 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: of control. And their fears that Sandy was murdered by 241 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: an intimate partner aren't outlandish. In the US, four women 242 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: a day are killed by their boyfriends and husbands and exes. 243 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: While it's uncomfortable to talk about, women are at greater 244 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: risk of violence at the hands of someone they know 245 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: than by a stranger. Here's what the Bial family knew. 246 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: Sandy had been in a secretive relationship with a married man. 247 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: She'd gotten pregnant and had an abortion, and then ended 248 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: up dead one mile away from her boyfriend's place of work, 249 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: and found with her body was a letter she'd made 250 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: out specifically to him. I'm going to read it now. 251 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: Keep in mind this is all coming from her perspective, 252 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: and we don't know if everything in it is true, 253 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: but it gives us a great deal of insight. Into 254 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: how she felt around the time she died. Doug, I 255 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: know now it's over, and it has been all along. 256 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: I guess I'm going crazy and nobody can see it. 257 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: You know you're right. I am trouble. I lost my baby. 258 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: I wanted so much. I thought it would bring some 259 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: kind of love because I was looking for love and 260 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: never found it from you. But you didn't care. You 261 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: never came when I was sick. I only wish I 262 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: could start all over again. Then you wouldn't have used 263 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: me like you did. You didn't care, and I guess 264 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: you never will. I never want another man to ever 265 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: want me. I just want to leave and forget the pain. 266 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: You see, I'll have to one day pay for the 267 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: loss of my baby, and when that day comes, Douglas 268 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: will pay for what he did to me and his baby. 269 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm sorry for all of this 270 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: I've caused you. So this letter was interpreted by police 271 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: as a suicide. No, right, what do you see in 272 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: this letter? She wasn't committing suicide. I just don't believe it. 273 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: That's Sandy's cousin, Kim. Did you believe she wanted to 274 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: get away from it and she was going to have 275 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: to go through a grieving process. I see that she 276 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: was in a lot of pain, and she was a kid. 277 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: She's about to be nineteen, and she sees the way 278 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the world is, and she's recognizing that she loved him 279 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: and she couldn't have any more than that. But at 280 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: the same time, this is where her fire comes out, 281 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: and I just want to leave and forget all the pain. 282 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: How do you hear that one? Now? That's when she 283 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: wanted to go to Maine. In the last few months 284 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: of Sandy's life, she had started talking about moving. She 285 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: wrote to her grandmother in Maine and asked if she 286 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: could live with her. These plans are a major reason 287 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: why the Beale family so vehemently rejected the theory of suicide. 288 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: Sandy was hopeful about the future. Here's her mom, Joanne. 289 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: She wouldn't have gone to the lengths of calling her 290 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: grandmother and talking with her. And she loved a grandmother, Bille. 291 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: She didn't like my mother. She liked her grandmother Belle. 292 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't think she committed the suicide. 293 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: When I first read Sandy's letter, it didn't seem to 294 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: me like a suicide note. Instead, I recognized it as 295 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: a certain type of writing specific to teenage girls who'd 296 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: had their hearts broken for the very first time, girls 297 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: who learned too early. How men could you use and 298 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: take advantage of them, take their hearts and bodies and time, 299 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: and then just discard them like trash. I recognize the 300 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: letter because I'd written ones just like it. The note 301 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: could be interpreted many ways, though, depending on the lens 302 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: you read it through heartbroken teen or as the cops 303 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: read it, girl on the brink of suicide. If she 304 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: hadn't written that damn note to shiphead, I wish she 305 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: had a mail lass on up a bitch instead of 306 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: leaving it in the guy Joanne the leaves. The police 307 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: closed the case so quickly because of the letter Sandy 308 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: wrote to Doug. Without it, she thinks Sandy's death would 309 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: have been investigated as a murder, and that those closest 310 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: to her, including her boyfriend Doug, would have faced questioning. 311 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: If you was going with a girl and you got 312 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: her pregnant and you was married, and you told her 313 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: to go get in an abortion and she did, and 314 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: then she still was hanging on to you, what do 315 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: you think you would do? You're twenty eight years old, 316 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: you got a nice career with the state police, and 317 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: you've gotten a girl pregnant. If Doug was responsible, the 318 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Beils believe that he would be uniquely adept at covering 319 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: up the crime due to his training as a law 320 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: enforcement officer. Here's Kim again. He's in the ideal situation. 321 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: He's in the position of authority. He has the skill set, 322 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: he has the trust within his department. They're going to 323 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: believe him over us, so he's going to be able 324 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: to cover up. He just has all the resources available 325 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: to him. Kim's suspicions of Doug kind of makes sense 326 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: given her line of work. She's a therapist for domestic 327 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: violence victims and as a result, all too familiar with 328 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: the ways that men harm the women they claim to love. 329 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Passion to help survivors, and her desire to solve Sandy's 330 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: case a sort of interwoven at this stage, feeding off 331 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: of each other, and honestly, it's really impressive just how 332 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: much energy she continues to commit to Sandy. For the 333 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: last year, we've texted almost every single day to compare 334 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: notes and talk about the case. And you have to 335 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: remember she's been working on this for decades now. Her 336 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: efforts over the years to track down documents and navigate 337 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: the maze of state agencies and local police, it's herculean. 338 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like gum on people's shoes, and I 339 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: ask a lot of questions. Tenacious, that's the word that 340 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: I've been told before, and it's really stubbornness. And the 341 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: people that I had to keep trying to reach over 342 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: and over again were the law enforcement that they were 343 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: really just trying to cover their ass and be cautious 344 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: about what they gave me and what they did. Kim 345 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: had been researching Sandy's case in some form or another 346 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: since ninety seventy seven, but the investigation took on a 347 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: new urgency in two thousand and six after Kim traveled 348 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: to Maine to see Sandy's parents. Ronald, Sandy's dad, was 349 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: nearing the end of his life, and as Kim talked 350 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: to him, she learned that he was still preoccupied with 351 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: what happened to Sandy and all the unanswered questions around 352 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: her death. I hate that Ronnie died not knowing. Just 353 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: it's just not fair that he would go to his 354 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: grave and not know. That's just not fair. We need 355 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: to get those answers, and I don't want Joanne to 356 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: leave this earth and not have him too. She was 357 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: overcome with a deep sense of injustice. She told me, 358 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know, there's not enough time to 359 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: get to find out these answers and we know nothing, 360 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: and it's oh six, that's a lot of time, that's what. 361 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: Twenty nine years later, Kim decided to track down the 362 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: official police report on Sandy's death, thinking it would be 363 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: simple to get not so. She started by calling the 364 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: Prince George's County Police Department, where she was connected to 365 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: a detective in the cold case unit, Bernie Nelson. He 366 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: quickly referred her to someone else, another detective who had 367 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: a strange story to share. He started huh hoh, humming along, 368 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not sure. That's a long time ago. 369 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I can get those records. And so 370 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: probably three or four calls and then he told me, well, 371 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: the building's burned down. I'm like what, So he said, well, 372 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: probably the only thing I'm going to be able to 373 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: get as a tickler file. Well, I've been in marketing before. 374 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: I know that it's just an index card and it's 375 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: jumped from one month to another to follow up on people. 376 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care what you have. Just get 377 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: me what you have. Okay, I'll work on it. Well, 378 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: that was the last communication I had with him, because 379 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: he would never return my calls anymore. So I gave 380 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: up on the police report. Actually, instead, she focused on 381 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: getting Sandy's autop which she eventually was able to acquire. 382 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: It added one very important detail, Sandy had sperm inside 383 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: her body, suggesting that she'd recently had sex. Though it's 384 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: hard to know exactly when I think what happened, and 385 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. I think that he met her, they 386 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: had sex, and she probably was thinking, well, I've had 387 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: the abortion. Everything's fine, We're gonna stick together. And I 388 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: think he said, no, I'm going back to my wife. 389 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: The family had already believed Sandy wasn't alone in the 390 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: pole yard that night. Maybe the letter to Doug was 391 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: supposed to have been given to him in person. Fast 392 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: forward to twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, and it wasn't 393 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: till my niece introduced me to her new boyfriend, and 394 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: he was a Prince George's county cop. And I said 395 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: that I've been looking for this police report for tech kids, 396 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: and they set the building burned down, and he goes, 397 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: the building never burnt down. I'm work out of it, 398 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: and it's about a seventy five year old building. That 399 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: building never burnt down, And so that got my you know, 400 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: blood boiling. So Kim picked up the phone once again 401 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: and dialed the PG County Police. This time though, she 402 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: connected with a sympathetic clerk who passed her request along 403 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: to cold case Detective Bernie Nelson, the same detective she 404 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: first spoke to in two thousand and six. All of 405 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, I got that email stating Bernie Nelson has 406 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: found the police report. He didn't tell me where he 407 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: found it, he just said he found it and that 408 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: here it is attached. I was like, oh my gosh. 409 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: I like was nervous, and I was driving as fast 410 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: as I could to get to my computer so I 411 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: could can print it out because I thought it was 412 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: just going to go away, and I couldn't believe that 413 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: it was twelve pages, which was just amazing. But because 414 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: they assured me that there was there was no way 415 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: that this was going to be available. The entire time 416 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: that Kim had been looking for it. The police file 417 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: had been safe and sound in the home of the 418 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: cop who investigated the case in nineteen seventy seven, retired 419 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: detective at Shishlski. When he left the force, he took 420 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: his files home with him. In twenty nineteen, a full 421 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: thirteen years after Kim's initial request, cold case detective Bernie 422 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Nelson went to Shishelski's house and physically retrieved the file 423 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: from his boxes of papers. 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The full police report is actually 482 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: a seventeen page digital file filled with details about what 483 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: detectives found when they arrived on the scene. Sandy was 484 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: sitting on a gold blanket in the driver's seat, Her 485 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: white coat sat on the seat next to her, and 486 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: on top of it was a gun, a three point 487 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: fifty seven Ruger revolver. The police report also includes a 488 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: series of photocopies. There's a copy of the letter Sandy 489 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: wrote to Doug, along with what looks like a rough 490 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: draft and an envelope addressed to his work. The last 491 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: page of the report is another photocopy of something that 492 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: was found in her car, but it's really blurry, so 493 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: I can't read what's on it. All I can make 494 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: out are a few faint lines of Sandy's handwriting. For months, 495 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: I assumed it was another note Sandy had written, the 496 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: contents lost to time. But then one day I found 497 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: the original in the stack of documents that Kim gave me. 498 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Turns out it's not a letter, it's a photograph. The 499 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: police report only includes a copy of the back, but 500 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: what's on the front is far more revealing. It's Sandy's 501 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: photograph of Doug standing in front of the McDonald's in 502 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: his state trooper uniform. I don't buy any of that shirt. 503 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that they said and 504 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: did that I didn't that I argued with him about. 505 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: But they looked at us, I think, as well than 506 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: nobody that low class. According to the police report, there 507 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: were empty pill bottles in Sandy's car and loose pills 508 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: scattered on her seat. Although this description might give the 509 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: impression that Sandy was trying to overdose, the autopsy did 510 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: not find any drugs or alcohol in her system at 511 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: the time of her death. It just looks staged to me, like, oh, 512 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: we found pills underneath her legs, well, there were allergy pills, 513 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: and so they made it look like she committed suicide. 514 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: That I don't think they did a thorough investigation. They 515 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: didn't do their due diligence. I don't think they investigated anything. 516 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: It was more than forty years after Sandy's death before 517 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: her family would get a copy of the police report 518 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: and be able to read it. They had hoped that 519 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: there would be some kind of incontrovertible proof in the 520 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: report that could say mettle their questions. The family felt 521 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: that with more information that have a clearer picture of 522 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: how and why Sandy died, but the new information just 523 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: muddled the story. The police report provided a detailed account 524 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: of this scene and reminded the family of the cardboard 525 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: shoved under the wheels of her car and the tire 526 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: tracks that seemed to indicate she was trying to get 527 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: her car out of the mud. The report also noted 528 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: that the gun had been collected and dusted for prints, 529 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: it had none. If Sandy had used the gun on herself, 530 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't they find her prints? And crucially, why was there 531 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: no mention of Doug in the written police report, even 532 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: though his name, his work address, and a photo of 533 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: him were found in her car. Certainly they as far 534 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: as we know, they didn't investigate Doud because there's no 535 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: mention of that in the police report either. Here's Sandy's brother, Stephen. Well, well, 536 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: I'll say, is if she committed suicide, somebody is going 537 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: to have to do some hallacious proven to me. Yeah, 538 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: some hallecious proven to me. That's what they say, fucking 539 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: prove it. Hello? Hi? Is this said? Hello? Hi? It's Melissa. 540 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Okay? That's retired Detective Ed Shazelski. 541 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: He's the one who wrote the police report and investigated 542 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: Sandy's death all those years ago, the one who stored 543 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: the police report at his house. I tracked him down 544 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: on Facebook. He was somewhat surprised to learn Sandy's family 545 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: was still uncertain about the events surrounding her death. He 546 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: was willing to answer their questions and mine in order 547 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: to put the issue to rest. It's the time that 548 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: I wrote homicide. It was kind of a sort after job, 549 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the prestige. I'm a homicide dick, do you know what 550 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean? But let me tell you, it had to 551 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: be the worst job or the police department. We were 552 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: handling well over one hundred murders a year. I mean 553 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: they put us like bounds. Kishlski speaks with the brash 554 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: confidence of a lifelong police officer, and he's an experienced storyteller. 555 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: A few years ago, he wrote a novel that touches 556 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: on his time working homicide called In Cheap's Clothing. The 557 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: book is dedicated to the quote finest group of police 558 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: officers found anywhere, the past and present members of the 559 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Prince George's County Police Department. So I got the car, 560 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I was in my office and force whatever, which is 561 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: only a few wiles away from where her body was. 562 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: Arriving on scene, he recalled what he noticed, a young 563 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: woman slumped over in a car seat alone, with a 564 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: gun close to her right hand. Her hands were coated 565 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: in gunpowder, which indicates to Shozhelski that her hands were 566 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: on or very close to the gun when it was fired. 567 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Upon further inspection, he saw that the gunshot in her 568 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: abdomen was a contact wound, meaning that the gun had 569 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: been touching her body when it fired. She have made up, 570 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: you know, like she'd think she was going to get 571 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: an answer there should make up very attractive. I asked 572 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: Shashlski what he made of some of the more unusual 573 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: details of Sandy's case, like the location of the gunshot. 574 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: He told me something a lot of people have said 575 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: to me as I've reported this story, that women, especially 576 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: young attractive women, don't like to shoot themselves in the 577 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: face because of vanity. I tried to fact check this claim, 578 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: and there's not much research. But I did track down 579 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: one study from twenty eleven that found that men were 580 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: almost twice as likely as women to use a method 581 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: of suicide that disfigured their head or face. But researchers 582 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: dismissed the theory that women were driven by vanity, calling 583 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: it an empirically unsupported explanation that characterizes the suicidal behavior 584 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: of women as motivated by selfish or trivial concerns. While 585 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: Shazelsky had a fairly good memory of Sandy's case, he 586 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: didn't remember one of the details that the family latched 587 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: onto the cardboard under Sandy's tires. He insisted that I 588 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: was mistaken until I showed him his own police report, 589 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: where he noted it this detail. It doesn't fit neatly 590 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: into the police narrative of suicide. If Sandy went to 591 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: the poliard to end her life, why did it seem 592 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: like she was trying repeatedly to leave. You don't wear 593 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: anything now, So I said, you don't want to be 594 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: time version. You want to go in there with an 595 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: opened mine, suicide, natural or whatever. But I mean, I 596 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: got a gun on a trust scene in a backse to. 597 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: It was it's not a natural fingo, I can eliminate that. 598 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: It's not an accident. Ingo, I can eliminate that. So 599 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: pretty much what left as a homicide or suicide. And 600 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: then there was the letter to Doug what I interpreted 601 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: as a suicide. Yes, yes, I mean, but again it 602 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: doesn't say goodbye a creer world either. Sin to me 603 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: like she's kind of talking to God a little bit. 604 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: She's rejected. There's nothing to live for. She lost her baby, 605 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: she's lost her lover. She probably told her thousands of 606 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: times he's going to leave his wife, you know what 607 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean. She didn't get that. She loses her baby, 608 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: What is there to live for? That's what I can 609 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: see in that letter. I could think of a lot 610 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: of reasons Sandy had to live. She was eighteen years 611 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: old to start, she had family, a job, friends, ambitions. 612 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Sandy was despondent over what 613 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: sounds like the breakup of her very first love, but 614 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: the jump to having nothing to live for seemed quite far, 615 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: and I wondered if these intimate details about Sandy's personal life, 616 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: which were on display in her writings, colored the police's 617 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: interpretation of her death. What if there had been no letter, 618 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: what if there was no receipt from the clinic. Back then, 619 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: much like now, there were a lot of myths around abortion. 620 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: One is that women who obtain them are more likely 621 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: to be depressed or suicidal afterwards. We now know this 622 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: to be untrue. The most comprehensive research project on the 623 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: effects of unintended pregnancy on women's lives, called the Turnaway Study, 624 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: has found that abortion does not increase the risk of 625 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: having suicidal thoughts or the chance of developing depression or anxiety. 626 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: In fact, women who are able to get an abortion 627 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: when they want one are more likely to have a 628 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: positive outlook on the future. It hit me as a 629 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: suicide right after bat I did what I was supposed 630 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: to do, and it is it was a suicide. I'm 631 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: not even going to say, in my opinion, it was 632 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: a suicide. It was a suicide. Period. Not so simple maybe, 633 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: but it was a suicide. I don't think any suicide 634 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: is simple. But Sandy's case did have an added layer 635 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: of complication for police the fact that her boyfriend was 636 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: a state trooper. Doug's name was all over the scene. 637 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: The autopsy revealed that Sandy had sex before her death. 638 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: I thought her boyfriend would be high on the list 639 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: of people to interview, and in fact, it's standard procedure 640 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: in cases like this. The Department of Justice recommends that 641 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: death investigators should try to quote document when, where, how, 642 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: and by whom the decedent was last known to be alive. 643 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: I asked Detective Shozelski if he ever considered Doug a 644 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: person of interest, or if he thought to speak to 645 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: him to learn more about Sandy's mental health or to 646 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: help recreate the last forty eight hours of her life. 647 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: Not as fair as I was concern he was not 648 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: a suspect than anything. Shozelski told me that he didn't 649 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: have any qualms going after a fellow officer if it 650 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: was warranted. It's worth noting that Shozelski didn't know Doug. 651 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: State and County Police are different entities and operate independently, 652 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: and while Shozelski didn't interview Doug, he did do something. 653 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: He notified the State Police that the trooper may have 654 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: had an inappropriate relationship with an eighteen year old girl. 655 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: I filed a public information request with the Maryland State 656 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: Police to see if I could find records of an 657 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: internal investigation into Doug after Sandy was found dead, but 658 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: I was too late. Internal affairs records are maintained for 659 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: only thirty years. There was no vacation of anything in 660 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: that car than a suicide. Again, the busies constant resident 661 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: on her no signs are a stare. Her father's gun 662 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: is the biggest one. So I'm not going to drag 663 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: somebody over to Carr's another police officer or everyday guy 664 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: with person. Detective Shozelski didn't think it was worth talking 665 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: to Doug, but I did. Since I began this podcast, 666 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: I've tried repeatedly to make contact with him, sending him 667 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: emails and messages on LinkedIn. I've also mailed handwritten letters 668 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: to his home, and in one I included a photo 669 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: of Sandy. To this day, I've yet to speak with him. Doug. 670 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: If you're listening, I still want to talk. Over the years, 671 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: Doug has turned into somewhat of a mythic figure for 672 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: the Beial family. He's an enigma, a mystery man who 673 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: played a pivotal role in Sandy's life and then just disappeared. 674 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: After Sandy's death, Joanne tried to track him down. She 675 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: told me that she called the Maryland State Police in 676 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: hopes of speaking with him. Well, when I called the 677 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: State Police barracks, the man was not very friendly. He said, well, 678 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that man. He's been transferred. Well, 679 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: he's been wanting to go to Baltimore for a long time. 680 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 1: We finally got an opening and we sent him along. 681 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, yeah, right, so, uh, I didn't get 682 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: anywhere with a state place. Maryland State Police informed Joanne 683 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: the dog had been transferred. I wasn't able to verify 684 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: this with the state Police. However, they did confirm that 685 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: he was assigned to a barracks in the Baltimore area 686 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: by nineteen eighty five. To get that cop transferred right away, 687 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: they covered everything up. I thought. I thought At the time, 688 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: I thought they're just telling me that shit because they 689 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: know and I still think that up until now. I've 690 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: held back a single detail in Sandy's case. I wanted 691 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: you to get to know Sandy in the way her 692 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: family knew her as a daughter, a sister, and as 693 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: a civilian. But one of the major reasons why I 694 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: held onto Joanne's letter for so many years was because 695 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: Sandy wasn't just a regular teenage girl who worked at 696 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: the mall. Sandy she wanted to be a cop, and 697 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: not just in some idle daydreaming kind of way. In 698 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: the last year of her life, she was training to 699 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: become a police officer, going on ride alongs with PG 700 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: County Police and even taking the written test for the academy. 701 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: So Sandy wasn't a stranger to PG County Police. She 702 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: was actively trying to become one of them. Well, I'm 703 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: old enough and worked in organizations long enough to know 704 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: that you're going to want to protect the people that 705 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: you work with or the reputation of the agency. Sandra 706 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: could have been retired by now, she's doing life six 707 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: feet under ground. So I give a shit about these people. 708 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: I hope they were not now. Well, it's just you know, 709 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: there was dirty cops back then, just like this dirty 710 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: cops now. You just never know where they're at and 711 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: who they are, you know. On our next episode, we 712 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: learn more about Sandy's goal to become a police officer. Yeah, 713 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: I know, she really talked about wanting to become a cop. 714 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: At first, I was a little surprised, like really, yeah, 715 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: So she was talking about these ride alongs and how 716 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: she enjoyed them. That's what I do. Recall she's saying, yeah, Jesus, guys, 717 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: get away with shit. You know. I'm Melissa Jelson and 718 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: this is what happened to Sandy Beal. What Happened to 719 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 1: Sandy Beal is hosted by me, Melissa Jelson. It's written 720 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: and produced by me and Katrina Norvel. The podcast is 721 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: edited by Abu Safar, sound designed by Aaron Kaufman. Jason 722 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: English is our executive producer. Research and production assistance by 723 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: Marisa Brown. To find out more about my investigation, follow 724 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at quasamado. That's qu as I am 725 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: a d O. 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