1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: And we continue now a part two of our conversation 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: with jennyman Juno in her class at Briarc Christian School 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: right after these brief messages from our general sponsors. Bob 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: is very easy to listen to because he's honest and 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: speaks from the heart. He talked about his mistakes and 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: what he's learned. He doesn't try to act like a hero. Instead, 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: he just seems like a regular guy, army and normal 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: folks who decided to care, which makes the podcast more 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: powerful and relatable. This podcast taught me that one person 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: really can make a difference. Bob didn't wait for someone 12 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: else to fix things. He took action. Who's that okay? 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Brome Zachary Pierce Zach. So, Yeah, this podcast was really 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: touching because he talks about how people get into, you know, 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: bad situations because they have nothing else to fill their 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: time with. So that's why he created the rec Baseball 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: League in Chicago, in the inner city of Chicago, and 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: so it's just it's shocking to see, you know, how 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: just even free time can lead to these bad decisions 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: and just a simple thing as baseball, and he also 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: built a high school there as well. So just even 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: something as simple as a sport can keep them out 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: of jail. 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Did you find him half as funny as I did? 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: That guy's awesome, didn't he? Yes, listen, guys, no more assignments. 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I know it's a podcast, but if you want to laugh, 27 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: listen to that podcast because this dude is hilarious. And 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: by the way, sitting with them, Alex, what was he he? 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: What was a little bit of background on Bob because 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: he's so funny. 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: You got to keep saying these people's full names. So 32 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: it's Bob Mazakowski or whatever. 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: What did I tell you about producers correcting me being 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: a butt head? 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: It's pretty basic, isn't a guy? 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: So he was actually an addict in New York City, 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: which is fun. So he was like playing rugby in 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: New York City. And do you remember the story? You 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: can feel for it to tell if you want. All right, 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: So he literally like gets kicked out of the game 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: and he's got a sippy cup full of cocaine that 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: he's using. And then this pastor also gets kicked out 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: of the game and he offers him some coke and 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: he had no idea. The guy was pastor. What does 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: this guy doing playing rugby as a pastor? And this 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: guy invited him to his church in Times Square, and 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: that really fascinating church that had you know, wealthy people 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: in suits and homeless people going to church together, you know, 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: and dining together after. And this guy helped make him 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: a Christian. And Bob ended up intentionally ultimately moving into 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: the inner city himself too. And I don't think everybody's 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: necessarily called to do that, but he does put a 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: good challenge of where ward Christ is where you live 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: in these mcnanions in the suburbs, or would be living 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: with the people. 57 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: In the city. 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: And so he's also, like Alan Barnhart, one of the 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: most challenging and fascinating people you'll ever meet. 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: I encourage all to listen to it. Plus he's my 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of Christian, which that means sees like me. He 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: needs prayer and redemption every night because of the seventy 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: thousand sins I create every day. And he's still got 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: that New York brashness in him. You have more freedom 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: when you manage money compared to when you don't. Money 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: isn't money itself, isn't sinful. It's what we choose to 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: do with our money that can be sinful. They sacrifice 68 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: the luxuries of life in order to pay off their 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: debts quicker and learned how to manage money properly. It's 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: a challenge to keep your faith in college. There's a 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: lack of motivation to do things like get up and 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: go to church. We're talking about Brandy and Ashley. I 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: think it's stathless, right, I say, Brandon and Ashley status. 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 4: Who's that? That's MEI you what's your name? 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: I'm Hannah Wigginton. 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me about it. 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: So I thought it was really interesting because like when 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: they went to college, they started ministering to like freshmen 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 5: in college and me going to a college next year, 80 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: Like I'm going to Stanford University, so it's about Samford. 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: Really Yeah it's Alma. Yeah, I guess a little, but yeah. 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 5: I just feel like it's a good lesson for me 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: to minister to other kids in college and like help 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 5: them build their faith because I think I have a 85 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 5: pretty good faith. I mean I but I it was 86 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: very inspiring. And I also feel like it's crazy how 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: God's timing works, because like when all these friends gathered 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: around to give them the money. They were like they 89 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: just found out that they were pregnant. I thought that 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 5: was crazy, Like God's timing is so like actually insane. 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 5: So I thought that was really cool. 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: It's all, it's so cool to see that if you 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: want exact some measure change, you don't have to start 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: some big five oh one C three or be part 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: of some big organization. You just help your neighbor and 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: pass it on. Did you did you? Did you feel 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: that as you were listening? 98 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: I also think I took away from it like you 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: don't have to like have service to strangers. You can 101 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: help people like you know, like yeah for sure, like 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: your neighbor, like your friend, or like you don't have 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: to just like when you serve, it doesn't have to 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 5: be someone random like going on a mission trip, serving 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 5: someone you don't know, but it can just be like 106 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: the person that you are closest to who just needs help. 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: Absolutely true. We talk about it all the time. 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: You have to employ your passion and your discipline, what 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: you care about, what you're good at at areas of need. 110 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Those areas in need may be an inner city or 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: in prison. That area need also maybe next door. Being 112 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: a part of army or normal folks is not a 113 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: call to be so extraordinarily big and everything and people 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: who do that great. But you can be part of 115 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: the army of normal folks by serving simply your neighbor 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: or your classmate or your friend. I enjoyed this podcast 117 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: due to how vulnerable and open he was with the 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: audience and how interesting his content was. I learned that 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: our God is an amazing god that can use an 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: ordinary guy like JT and turn him into a life changer. 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: Jt Olsen both ends. 122 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 6: Hi hello and Angelie Gobondo? What Angelie Gobondo? 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 7: Hi? 124 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 8: Hi? 125 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 9: Go? 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 10: Okay? So J t Olsen Those that haven't watched it. 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 6: He came from a family and his parents both died 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 6: in a car wreck, and his aunt and uncle took 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 6: him in and he felt like he was left abandoned. 130 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 6: And his family consisted of five kids, four kids, and 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 6: they all moved in with his aunt and uncle without 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 6: them really knowing that it was going to happen, just 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: like took them in. And basically he went about and 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: helped orphans with adoption and widows. So he would get 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 6: a team of people, all volunteers and get all these 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: like objects and supplies from people, again all just given. 137 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 6: Nothing was bought to help these widows with their houses, 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 6: whatever they needed, whether it was gardening or drywall, plumbing 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: like anything, and all the money that they got from 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: sponsors would go towards a family to adopt, because adoption 141 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: is a lot more expensive than you'd think. It was, 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 6: about much seventy thousand dollars I believe. 143 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: Seventy to one hundred thousand dollars to a back, So 144 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: people that want to adopt don't have the money to adopt. 145 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: And instead of raising money for people to adopt, he 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: helped widows with houses and got sponsorships and then took 147 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: that money so other families could adopt. So he partnered 148 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: helping poor widows with fixops with adoption. 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 10: It was like a two to one situation. 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 6: He got two things done at one time with the 151 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 6: widows and with the adoptions. 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 10: And yeah, I really could you learn from it. 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 6: It just made me realize how like one simple action 154 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 6: that's happened like that's happened to you can make you 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: a really big deal to someone else's life. Like my 156 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: favorite quote that he said was when he was adopting 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: his girl grace. He said something like, why is it 158 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: so wrong to use my life savings to save a life? 159 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 6: And his wife wasn't one hundred percent ready to have 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 6: another kid because they already had four of their own. 161 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: And I thought it was really huge that he just 162 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 6: knew that he needed to do it and that he 163 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 6: prayed about it, and God was like, you need to 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 6: take what you have and what I've given you to 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: help someone else. 166 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 10: And yeah, I just thought that was great. 167 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Sean and Inga Arvin love City. It's fascinating how the 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Lord works in our lives. I found their story motivating 169 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: for me to reach great goals. I learned to take risks. 170 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: I think they're very brave for taking the risk to 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: help this new community. 172 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Hi, that's me lose you. 173 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 10: I'm Katie Pearce. 174 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: Hi, how are you tell me about it? 175 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 11: So this was an interview with Sewn and Inga Arvin. 176 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 11: And this was a couple that moved into this neighborhood 177 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 11: that was not very. 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 10: Expected. 179 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 11: They bought this house and ended up inheriting this community 180 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 11: center where they ended up taking care and welcoming of 181 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 11: this huge community, and it was really unexpected of them, 182 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 11: and it was Inga who just decided that she wanted 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 11: to move into this neighborhood, and Sean was not on 184 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 11: board with it at first because this was the neighborhood 185 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 11: that he would used to buy drugs from, and so 186 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 11: he was not really wanting to do this. But they 187 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 11: ended up getting that house and then making the big 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 11: risk to take in this community and. 189 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 10: Help them a lot. 190 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: What'd you learn from it? 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 11: Definitely to take risks, and that like odd will like 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 11: work out and you can go, will work in you 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 11: in just like mysterious ways that. 194 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 10: You don't even know. 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: When you guys learned your elevator pitch, right, how many 196 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: seconds did you have to make the pitch? 197 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: Do you remember? 198 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 8: We didn't thirty to forty that's a long elevator rod. 199 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Four a little longer thirty to forty. Y'all are doing 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: well in your synopsis? 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 12: Is? 202 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: I was just wondering because you guys are you guys 203 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: are boiling down hour and a half to three hour 204 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: podcast and do about two minutes, so I think you're 205 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: using that skill right now. That's actually really good. I 206 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you how did you how did it 207 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: did you find the very fact that this guy used 208 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: to buy drugs in the neighborhood that he ended up 209 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: returning to to try to help heal. Did that have 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: any effect on you understanding that heart of his story. 211 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, I can definitely understand why he wouldn't want to 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 11: move there with all the bad memories from the drug 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 11: dealing and all that, so I can understand why he 214 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 11: wouldn't want to move back there. But it was really 215 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 11: inspiring how he took the risk and how they were 216 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 11: praying about it to. 217 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 10: Move into this neighborhood from their past. 218 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. Eight. 219 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: Dean Angel Studio's movie Brave the Dark about his adopter 220 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: father stand Dean. The content kept me really intrigued. You 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: could really hear how important this was to Nate and 222 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: how much it affected his life. I'm very lucky that 223 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: I haven't had to experience anything I had to go 224 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: through I learned from this podcast asked that community and 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: family matters, whether biological or not. 226 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: Hi. 227 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 10: Hi name, I'm joining Ezekiel. 228 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: Good to see you tell me about it. 229 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 12: So basically, when he was five, his dad shot his 230 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 12: mom and then shot himself right after, and he watched 231 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 12: the whole thing happen, and his grandparents took him in 232 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 12: after like the police came and everything, but he was 233 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 12: had like so much trauma and he like shut down 234 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 12: that he wasn't really talking to anyone. So the grandparents 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 12: actually just ended up giving him up. And so then 236 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 12: he went from multiple different foster homes and then he 237 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 12: got a car and so then like ran away from 238 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 12: his foster home and just like slept in his car, 239 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 12: and then him and his friends robbed an electronics store 240 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 12: where they got sent to jail. And then when he 241 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 12: was in jail, his teacher came and visited him, and 242 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 12: his teacher got him out of jail, and Nate ended 243 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 12: up living with him after that, and his teacher just 244 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 12: made a huge impact on his life. And he was 245 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 12: able to live with his teacher, and like his teacher 246 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 12: showed him like Christmas and birthdays and gave him gifts 247 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 12: and like spoiled him, and he just like never experienced 248 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 12: anything like. 249 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: That, and it was just and what do you do 250 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 4: with that experience? 251 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 10: He made a movie about his life. 252 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: Yep, what'd you learn from it? 253 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 12: Just the impact that people can have on others. 254 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about you just had a teacher tell you 255 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: that she was told to go home on weekends and 256 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: spend the night at somebody else's house because she just 257 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: wasn't even welcoming her own home on the weekends because 258 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: of this function. 259 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: Created by her mother's lifestyle. 260 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Think about when we drive down the street and we 261 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: see homes and everybody else's family, and we assume behind 262 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: the closed doors everything is perfect while we all have 263 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations in our own lives and we think 264 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: we're on an island. There's this function in trauma and 265 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: difficulty in everybody's life, right, and it's how you overcome it. 266 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: And you're never on an island because everybody's experiencing something. 267 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: And if you're willing to be the person to step 268 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: up and interject yourself in somebody's life and help out, 269 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: you never know how deeply of an effect that can happen, 270 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Like a speech teacher, like a football coach. 271 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: Big lessons in that story. 272 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Charity ball fraternities are usually known for loud music parties 273 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: and drinking, but this frat wanted to make a lasting impact. 274 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Sigma Nu has had a lasting impact not only at 275 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Old Miss, but at other schools across the country. This 276 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: podcast taught me not to judge a book about's cover 277 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: and to always strive to respect and assist those in need. 278 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: Who wrote that that was me? Hi you? What's your name? 279 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: Garrett Rosner? What Garrett Rosner? Okay? Tell me about this? 280 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 13: So basically, the Sigma Nu fraternity big frat at Old Miss. 281 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 13: And in nineteen eighty nine, there's a football game going 282 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 13: on between Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and one of the 283 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 13: Old Miss players it was a homecoming game, so it's 284 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 13: a big game also, and one of the Old Miss players, 285 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 13: Chuckie Mullens, he was going for a play and then 286 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 13: he got paralyzed. 287 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: And these two. 288 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 13: Fraternity brothers saw this and they went up to Chucky 289 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 13: like a few days later, they're like, hey, like, is 290 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 13: there any way like we can raise money for people 291 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 13: that have like your condition to help them out. And 292 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 13: they were like afraid to do this at first because 293 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 13: they didn't like want to bother him, like annoy him, 294 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 13: and it's like time and knee, and he was like 295 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 13: of course. And so then they started this charity bowl 296 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 13: where these fraternities raise money for a kid and they 297 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 13: raise all the money up and then they give it 298 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 13: to a certain kid who has paralysis, and they keep 299 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 13: continuing over the years and they keep setting goals for 300 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 13: himself so they can keep going higher. And then I 301 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 13: think they reached their all time goal like in twenty 302 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 13: twenty two and gave away it was like three hundred 303 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 13: thousand dollars. It's like one kid of paralysis. And then 304 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 13: other schools like Mississippi State also they like uh SEC 305 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 13: schools also caught onto this and started doing their own 306 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 13: charity balls this year. 307 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: The game was just played a month ago. The guys 308 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: you were listening to their game just went off a 309 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: month ago and they raised three hundred and eighty thousand 310 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: dollars a bunch of kids like you to give away 311 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: to a bunch of people like you who ended up paralyzed. 312 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: What'd you learn from it? I thought it was really cool. 313 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 13: Like fraternities always have the stigma around them, like they're like, 314 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 13: I don't know, it's like a fraternity, like they were 315 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 13: cool guys, like they party and all this stuff. But 316 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 13: these kids like really wanted to make a change, and 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 13: like you don't see, like you don't think of a 318 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 13: fraternity going out to help like some kid of paralysis, 319 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 13: Like you think they're like uptight like frat boys, you know. 320 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 13: Uh sound, but uh, these kids like really want to 321 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 13: make a lasting impact and change the stigma around the fraternis. 322 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: I love it, Officer Tommy Norman. 323 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is one of the coolest 324 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: guys I've ever interviewed my life. The ability of mister 325 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Courtney and Tommy. So whoever wrote this, thanks because you 326 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: plugged me to connect needs no change. It's perfect and 327 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: provides heartfelt and eye opening experiences for the audience. I've 328 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: learned that serving your community is more than just doing 329 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: helpful things. It's the work behind the scenes protecting the community. 330 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: Who wrote that, Hi, my name is Date bliin I 331 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: wrote that, So tell me about it. 332 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: So Officer Tommy Norman, he is a cop and he 333 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: lived in I think North Little Rock, Arkansas, and just 334 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 7: a lot of the things there is that he yes, 335 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: like he's an officer, but he specifically said his shift 336 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 7: basically never ends, and he basically wanted to be a 337 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 7: cop so he. 338 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 9: Could get back to his community. And how he says 339 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 9: his shift doesn't end is when he's off shift. A 340 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 9: lot of the other cops, they put up their belt, 341 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 9: they go home and they just sit with their families 342 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 9: and have dinner. And all that, but he's out in 343 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 9: his community helping widows, buying groceries, buying a kid a 344 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 9: bicycle so he can get to school and everything. And 345 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 9: he says, really trying to be engaged and bring community 346 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 9: into one instead of being separated. 347 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: One of the things Tommy Norman taught me is you 348 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: can be part of an army and normal folks and 349 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: serve just as a guy doing your job, just doing extra, 350 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: just going a little above and beyond and what you 351 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: do for a living. He has three goals. He wants 352 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: to be invited into your yard. Then he wants to 353 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: be invited onto your porch. Then he wants to be 354 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: invited into your house, because once he finally is get 355 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: invited to your house, he knows he's built. 356 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: A relationship with you. 357 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: And this is a cop who is white in an 358 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: almost well at least a very predominantly African American community, 359 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: running around in his police car with this police uniform on, 360 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: which is typically in a community like that, the enemy 361 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: or at least someone is scary, or at least someone 362 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: who you're worried about, invading your personal rights, getting invited 363 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: into people's yards, onto their porch, and into their house, 364 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and once he makes it in there, he builds relationships 365 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: with people in that community. He's considered the Michael Jordan 366 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: of community policing, and he is revered in a community 367 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: that popular narrative tells us is a community that hates 368 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: the police and fears them, and he has turned that 369 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: all upside down by simply having conversations with people on 370 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: their porch. Again, you don't have to be some WI 371 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: is good to have a lasting effect on so many 372 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: people and be a part of the army and normal folks. 373 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: It oftentimes is as easy as having a civil, non 374 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: threatening conversation. So those are the excerpts I have. I 375 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: haven't gotten all of you, but that's the excerpts I have. 376 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: What I'd like to know is someone who hasn't spoken yet. 377 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Did the assignment and the podcast in general give you 378 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: any new thoughts or notions about volunteering, generosity or something 379 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: that you might be encouraged to involve yourself in. Anybody, 380 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: I know, I haven't heard from you. Hi, what's your name? 381 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 10: I'm Chrystal Pierre Luis. 382 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 14: So I didn't listen to an Army Folks podcast, but 383 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 14: from all the discussion around has really interested me. I'm 384 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 14: in Wilson's Society, the volunteer club here, community work, and 385 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 14: recently I went Madonna, what's it? 386 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: What's what Wilson? 387 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 10: Yes, Wilson Society part of that. 388 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, stop because I'm gonna let you talk about it. 389 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere. Here we go. 390 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: So that's a great segue. Perfect you did. Well, you're 391 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: not a plant either. But there's this thing. Actually, why 392 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: don't you explain what the Wilson thing is and then 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: we'll go back to you and I want to hear 394 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: about your involvement in it. 395 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 8: And we have several in here that are in Wilson Society. 396 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 8: So Wilson Society is a service club on our campus. 397 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 8: There's about two hundred members and they select projects that 398 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 8: they're going to do each semester. 399 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 10: It varies. 400 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 8: The officers and the students decide what they're going to do. 401 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 8: They can write a grant up to one thousand dollars 402 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 8: through the Kimmins Wilson Family Foundation and they will give 403 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 8: them money to do their project. So the projects are selected. 404 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 8: If you have something that's going to cost money, you 405 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 8: have to make a budget, make the plan, and then 406 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 8: Wilson Society will provide you the people you know to 407 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 8: make it work. So student get involved. They can lead 408 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 8: a project. We've got a few in here that have 409 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 8: actually written the grant led a project, and then others 410 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 8: come alongside. They can do a hands on, they can 411 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 8: do a donation, and then we support Orange Mound through 412 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 8: a variety of separate things that we do as well. 413 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: So with that as a background, tell me about what 414 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: you've done. 415 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 14: Okay, So recently I went to the school Madonna And 416 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 14: what is Madonna? Madonna? Yes, so Madonna is a school 417 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 14: with kids with disabilities and things like autism and down syndrome, 418 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 14: And a group of us went last week to spend 419 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 14: time with them and like kind of like a summer 420 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 14: like diving into summer type of things. So there was 421 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 14: bouncy houses and coloring and stickers and popcorn and candy 422 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 14: and although there was kids as young as like three 423 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 14: or three, and there were adults. And so the first 424 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 14: round we had adults and they were really sweet and 425 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 14: me and my classmate we did like this ball toss 426 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 14: and like some of them wouldn't you know, they didn't 427 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 14: want to like play with us, but just being like, hey, 428 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 14: how you doing, Like just like making them feel welcomed 429 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 14: as we're they're welcoming us, serving with them and playing 430 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 14: with them, even though you know, we don't deal with 431 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 14: the same things that they do deal with. And again 432 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 14: with the kids too, just being like, oh, you're your 433 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 14: no policy looks really pretty or your hair looks really pretty, 434 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 14: and just you know, serving with them and spending time 435 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 14: and having fun with them was truly an experience I 436 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 14: really loved. 437 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 438 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Your teacher sitting on my left over here, Jenny, oh sorry, 439 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: miss whatever you're supposed to be called, says I love 440 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: what you're doing. She loves the podcast. Obviously she would 441 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: have made you guys do this assignment if she didn't, 442 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: But she said, I hope we're building an army of 443 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: normal teenagers. That's what she wants to do through this class, 444 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: through this process, through listening to the podcast, through all 445 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff, would anybody say they've had a changed 446 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: or heightened awareness at all of the importance of community 447 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: involvement service? 448 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 4: Anybody want to talk about that? 449 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 6: So I actually sorry, Angelae Covonde, there you go. I 450 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 6: helped write one of the grants this year for one 451 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 6: of the projects for Wilson Society, and it had to 452 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: do with Christmas. And I just never thought about Christmas 453 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 6: not having gifts, like obviously addition to the christ part 454 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: of it, but like having gifts was just is normal 455 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 6: to me. Like I've been very blessed. I have parents 456 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 6: are still together, like I'm an only child, so I've been. 457 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 10: Very very blessed. 458 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 6: And this year, when I was doing the grant, it 459 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 6: made me realize, like there are kids that are just 460 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 6: walking around that don't understand the joy of Christmas or. 461 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 10: Get gifts at all. 462 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 6: So part of that grant was we get specified kids 463 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: that ask for certain things, and we get a red 464 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 6: tub and we fill it with all the things that 465 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 6: they asked for that we can get with the money 466 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 6: that we raise. And another part of it is Briarcrest 467 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 6: donates toys and Teddy Bears. 468 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 10: And little race cars and stuff just in general. 469 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: And we have a back room that all the kids 470 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: can just walk through and grab a gift. And I 471 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 6: didn't get to go to the event. I was taking 472 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: the act, but I saw pictures and like the joy 473 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 6: that these kids get just seeing gifts that they've never 474 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 6: seen before was something that truly changed my outlook on 475 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 6: how blessed I really am? 476 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 8: Or little backdrop on red tub. It's for foster children. 477 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 8: So all eight hundred plus foster children each get a 478 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 8: red tub the Memphis Family Connection Center, and so we 479 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: sponsored four tubs through Wilson Society. And those tubs also 480 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 8: pay for their therapeutic care for the year, so if 481 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 8: they need psychological or anything else, that also covers it. 482 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 4: Pretty cool. 483 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: I want to leave you guys with one thought. It's 484 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: time to get y'all back to class. I know y'all 485 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to get back to class and air conditioning, 486 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: and in fairness, you know this is probably better and 487 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: sitting class at least. But here we go. Who has 488 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: heard the turkey person explanation? Okay, well, I'm going to 489 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: give it to all of you. 490 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: As you. 491 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Think about what you've listened to, and as you think 492 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: about this discussion, and as you ponder, hopefully what can 493 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: I do as richly blessed as each of you are. 494 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: It's not a nice thing to do something kind of 495 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: a requirement, kind of a requirement of the blessings you 496 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: have to give back in some way. But fair warning, 497 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: it comes with it comes with a set of rules. 498 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: That will reveal themselves to you as you get involved. 499 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: It is not easy, it is fraught with misunderstanding, but 500 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: it's worth the effort. My first year, when I showed 501 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: up at Manassas High School, there were seventeen kids on 502 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: the team and they'd won four games. 503 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: And ten years. Four games in ten years. That's bad. 504 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're not good at math, but 505 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't you say that's and that's pretty rough? Pretty bad? 506 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: Seventeen kids four ninety five. So my first year I 507 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: was their seven. My first year, halfway through the season 508 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: were three and three. Now, I think three and three 509 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: is pretty average, but when you've won four games in 510 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: ten years, they think three and three. You know, I'm 511 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: kind of like a fat headed, redheaded version Elane Kiffin 512 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: or somebody they were buying in. 513 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: Well. 514 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: When I first got to Manassis, obviously I had to 515 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: start coaching football basics, right, But as we started coaching football, 516 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: I also learned we had to coach a lot of 517 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: other things. Somebody opened the table of contents and the 518 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: book in front of you. Somebody hand that person the microphone. 519 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Would you just read the chapters loudly? 520 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 15: So Chapter one on the value of character Chapter two, 521 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 15: The meaning of commitment. 522 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: Chapter three. 523 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 15: Daring to leave your comfort zone for service is not 524 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 15: someone else's job. Five How leaders are defined. Six the 525 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 15: search of the search for civility. Seven, the power of dreams. Eight, 526 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 15: The relationship between fear and fortitude. Nine, perseverance never takes 527 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 15: a break. Ten, the dignity of hard work. Eleven, standing 528 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 15: on a firm foundation. Twelve, responsibility for the talk taking 529 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 15: thirteen grace appears in a forgiving heart, and fourteen the 530 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 15: gift of a legacy. 531 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: We started teaching that too. 532 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: We realized we had to coach the basics. 533 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: So halfway through the season, we're three and three. We're 534 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 4: coaching football. 535 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: We're coaching that stuff, and half the team was buying in. Now, 536 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: the whole team was buying into the football. Yes or 537 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: no so are on the football field. But the minute 538 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: football was over, only half the team was buying into 539 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: that stuff. The other half the team, while yes or 540 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: no so are on the football field, they were getting 541 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: back in the streets after games and practices engage in 542 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: the same behavior that got them to four wins in 543 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: ninety five's metaphorically in life as well as football film. 544 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: So I was frustrated. Every coach has a guy. So 545 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I went to my guy and I said, hey, man, 546 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: what do I gotta do? 547 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: Y'all are yes or no, sir? Everything's good on. 548 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Football, but the important stuff only half of you are 549 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: buying them. What do I got to do to get 550 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: the other half that team to buy into the important stuff? 551 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: Like you're half the team. 552 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: And this guy, who I had real conversations with, who 553 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: I knew would tell me the truth, looked at me 554 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: and said, all coach, just keep doing what you're doing dismissively. 555 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: You know how y'all talk to your parents when they 556 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: tell you something you don't want to hear. You know, yes, sir, 557 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: yes ma'am, but in your mind you're thinking, nah, you 558 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: know that right? That was the response, and I'm like, no, man, 559 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: real talk. And he said, Coach, I don't want to 560 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: hurt your feelings. I said, man, you're not going to 561 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: hurt my feelings, but I need to understand and while 562 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: that half the team ain't buying an important stuff like 563 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: here after him, he said, all right, coach, real talk. 564 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: I said, real talk. 565 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: He said, Coach, they're just trying to figure out if 566 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: you're a Turkey person. 567 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: Or not. And I said, what are you talking about? Man? 568 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: He said, Coach. 569 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: Every Thanksgiving and Christmas people roll into our neighborhoods and 570 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: they give us hands and turkeys and gifts, and we 571 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: take them because we ain't got none. But then they 572 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: leave and we never see them again. Makes you wonder 573 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: if they're doing that because they really care about us, 574 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: or that they're doing that to make themselves feel good. 575 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: I know I'm in a Christian school, but I'm going 576 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: to quote this exactly how he said it. He looked 577 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: me dead and as they said, coach, really, what the 578 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: hell are you doing here? I want to challenge you 579 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: guys to think about something. It's not enough to show 580 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: up once. Because when you show up once and leave 581 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: the type of people that you're in, type of communities 582 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: that you're going in to serve, that is very common. 583 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: What is uncommon, what matters, what will have a lasting impact. 584 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: It's consistency is going back over and over and over 585 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: again and being uncommon. The other thing is this, don't 586 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: allow yourself to engage because you like the way that 587 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: it makes you feel. Don't allow yourself to engage because 588 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: when people hear about the work you're doing, the backslaps 589 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: and the congratulations, and the people in your orbit think 590 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: of you in a better way because of the work 591 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: you're doing. Because if you are doing it, because you 592 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: are getting something out of it personally from your peer group, 593 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: you are, in fact a turkey person, and a turkey 594 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: person's a fraud. You don't serve so that exalts you. 595 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: You serve so that it exults someone not as blessed 596 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: as you, and you do it consistently. 597 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: And if you do that, you are uncommon. 598 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: And uncommon people are what makes the army of normal 599 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: folks go. So I challenge you as you go off 600 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: to college, as you go off and become adults, this 601 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: weird assignment that you didn't want to do. My biggest 602 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: hope for you, guys is your biggest takeaway is be uncommon, 603 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: be uncommon, and grow the army in normal folks. 604 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to leave it with you at your class closes. 605 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 8: I'm very proud of how well they did today. 606 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 6: They did a great job. 607 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 8: Thank you so much for sharing with them. I think 608 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 8: it's been more enlightening than they probably thought it would be, 609 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 8: and they've learned a lot about themselves through the podcast 610 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 8: and what they can do in the future. So thank 611 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 8: you for your podcast that could open the eyes of 612 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 8: even teenagers. 613 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: I hope that did. 614 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: We're signing off from Briercrest High School in Memphis, Tennessee, 615 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: where there's a room full of kids who, at the 616 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: best of the teacher hopefully has. 617 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: Grown and wants to join the ranks of the Army 618 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 4: of Normal Folks. Kids. 619 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, I appreciate it very much. Well done, 620 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us this week. If Teacher 621 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: Jenny has inspired you in general, or better yet, to 622 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: take action by using an Army of Normal Folks with 623 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: your classroom, recommending it to your school, or using it 624 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: with your own kids, please let me know. I'd love 625 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: to hear about it. You can write me anytime at 626 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: Bill at normalfolks dot us, and I promise you I 627 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: will respond. We may and do an episode with your classroom. 628 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: And if you enjoyed this episode, please share it with 629 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: friends and on social subscribe to the podcast, rate and 630 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: review it. 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