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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy three,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of jediis I Geist Yeah, production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday,

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Speaker 1: February third, two three, two three. My name is Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: a K. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: my second seat by one of the very faces on

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Speaker 1: Mountain site, Mara, hilarious and brilliant writer producer writes on

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Speaker 1: shows like Mixed Dish, that nineties show you know him

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Speaker 1: from yos This Racist, which has a live episode this

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Speaker 1: Saturday at Cops in San Francisco as part of SF

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Speaker 1: Sketch Fest. It's Andrew T. I'm not just the guest

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Speaker 1: co host. I'm the co host that guessed it up.

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Speaker 1: That's right what I watched. I was like debating before

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Speaker 1: we got here. I was like, that is simply too

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Speaker 1: dumb to say out loud, and now I think I

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Speaker 1: have to I have to try. Yeah, you absolutely good. Well,

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Speaker 1: Andrew were thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by James Beard, Award winning writer and host of the

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Speaker 1: podcast Radio Lingo. Please welcome amm it. Oh yeah, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's going all right. I did listen to the pilot

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Speaker 1: episode of the show, which is all about how people

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Speaker 1: mispronounce your name, how to pronounce your name? Did my

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Speaker 1: best just there? That's pretty good? Okay? I would, I

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Speaker 1: would probably, I would probably give that a pass. I would,

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Speaker 1: pet I think. I think. I'm like you learned to

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Speaker 1: be okay with lots of different ways of pronouncing And

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of different ways of pronouncing my name,

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Speaker 1: even in my own family. I realized doing that pilot

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Speaker 1: half the people in my family don't say my name

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Speaker 1: the same way. So I've learned to be pluralistic and

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Speaker 1: open minded about it. Amazing, How and how deep are

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Speaker 1: you in the show's We finished the first season first.

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Speaker 1: All eight episodes are out on streaming platforms of radio Lingo,

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Speaker 1: and it's the show we did with some crooked media

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Speaker 1: bit of the linguistics, you know, science culture. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's it makes linguistics fun. I mean, I think language

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Speaker 1: do a lot of accessible and interesting information about the

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Speaker 1: way language shapes our world and how our world shapes language. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: how exactly did I mispronounce it? Though? Because so here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. You can't be expected to say it the

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Speaker 1: It's a h M E D that is so misleading.

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Speaker 1: It's actually am mud and mud. There you go. Oh

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Speaker 1: that was very good, honestly, not out not out of

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Speaker 1: t Wow, look at me, um Emma is how it

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Speaker 1: said in Ammad. That's so good, honestly, one of the better, better,

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Speaker 1: better announcers of a non Pakistani person i've heard. So

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Speaker 1: I think grating got a curve. Grading on the white

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Speaker 1: curve is important. It's always important for me Andrew get

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Speaker 1: graded on that white curve. Low expectations. You know. Potatoes

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Speaker 1: O'Brien is you know my nickname because it is the

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Speaker 1: most average side side dish possible and I'm aggressively mediocre

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Speaker 1: on the topic of potatoes. I guess that could be

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Speaker 1: Emma alukabar potato um, you know, like Ali Gobi. But

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Speaker 1: say that's also right to them, but to me, it's

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Speaker 1: in my family. Everyone says, Emma ahmad. So yeah, alright, Emma,

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little a

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Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our

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Speaker 1: on today's episode. Apparently a big strike happening in the

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Speaker 1: In that case, we'll talk about Shell Oils. We we

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Speaker 1: Like that's literally it nice. I'm not a gamer, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: do you does anything? Do any of those words make

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Speaker 1: every time I play like Candy Crush or like one

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Speaker 1: actually doing the thing that you like most, not working,

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Speaker 1: So consider it is powerful and actually good. Yeah. There

429
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Speaker 1: was one like little viral moment where like Channel four

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Speaker 1: earned praise by showing solidarity with the workers by airing

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Speaker 1: the Simpsons episode where Homer goes on strike on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the day of the walkout, and they but they like

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Speaker 1: claimed it was a coincidence. It's just like snuck is weird,

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Speaker 1: Like why do you have to claim it's a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: This is a thing that's happening, don't you know? Do

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Speaker 1: you have to do it? Isn't it? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's I will say, like playing reruns from my

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Speaker 1: brief time when I worked at Comedy Central, it seems

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Speaker 1: like much more complicated and longer thought out than I

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Speaker 1: ever realized. So I guess I'm saying there is a

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Speaker 1: chance it was a coincidence. It was a coincidence. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got it. You know, you never know, but like yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that that it's just like unbelievably tedious to like

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Speaker 1: which episode of The Simpsons are we playing now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have to clear everything everything every Yeah, that makes sense,

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Speaker 1: all right. Moving on to the a civil suit against

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse that a judge refused to throw out. John Huber,

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Speaker 1: the father of one of Kyle Rittenhouse victims, is suing

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Speaker 1: Rittenhouse and the government, claiming that he conspired with officers

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Speaker 1: to cause harm to protesters, which seems pretty undeniable. Like

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Speaker 1: just reading like parts of the case, it's just like

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that that happened that, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we've kind of gotten some distance from it. And the

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Speaker 1: there was the case that where he was found not guilty,

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Speaker 1: but like that just the description like despite openly caring

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Speaker 1: a rifle. The complaint states that Rittenhouse was never questioned

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Speaker 1: by authorities at the time. Written House was a minor

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Speaker 1: unauthorized to possess such a weapon, and like couldn't have

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Speaker 1: looked more the editor realized, but they couldn't have looked

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Speaker 1: more like a child holding it us all rightful law

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00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: enforcement forced protesters into a confined area with hostile armed

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Speaker 1: individuals and failed to protect the protesters from violence perpetrated

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Speaker 1: by the armed individuals. Yeah, that's like also though, every

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Speaker 1: police like every time the police are dealing with protesters

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Speaker 1: who aren't Nazis, so like right, that's the thing where

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the civil suit goes through, I think,

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Speaker 1: like I do feel like the whole like quote unquote

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Speaker 1: justice system is going to be like fighting against this

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Speaker 1: because it's really like hits to the core of their

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Speaker 1: business model. Yeah, it's so fucking grim. It's terrible to

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Speaker 1: have to see written Houses face on Twitter every now

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Speaker 1: and again. It's like, it's actually amazing. Yeah, And the

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Speaker 1: so I was assuming like, yeah, it was the their

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Speaker 1: argument for throwing dismissing the case that this judge overturned was,

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Speaker 1: you know, something along the lines of the argument that

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Speaker 1: he used to be found not guilty, but in fact

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Speaker 1: it's just he's been hiding from them when they were

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Speaker 1: trying to serve him with the with the papers. One

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Speaker 1: of the main arguments was that he wasn't properly served.

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Speaker 1: In order to sue him, Huber had to hire private

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Speaker 1: investigators to track down Mr. Rittenhouse's residents, which required searching

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Speaker 1: addresses in seven states. All they could find was his

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Speaker 1: mom and sister's play in Florida, so they served his sister,

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Speaker 1: who claimed he was not at home, and the judge

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Speaker 1: was like, that's what you're talking about. It is a

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Speaker 1: wild like part of the US justice system that you

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Speaker 1: can just like that, there's like a hide and seek

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00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: stage of getting to well. It's also funny because like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Kyle the House on Twitter, he

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Speaker 1: gives us or like that, he's like, I'm like a

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Speaker 1: brave patriot. He's like he's a child hiding from the

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Speaker 1: consequences of his actions. Is it really shows you what

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Speaker 1: you know the character there? It is like, yeah, he's

494
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: like such a weenie at every stage of everything. It

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Speaker 1: is just like yeah, just kind of some kind of

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Speaker 1: fascist Alfredy Newman walking around with a gun, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it just feels like, I don't know, a

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Speaker 1: good maybe this civil suit can be a sort of

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Speaker 1: this is water moment where you get to take a

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Speaker 1: step back and see this event for what it is.

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Speaker 1: That like, there's just an implicit assumption in our society

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Speaker 1: that the conservative, gun toting, white supremacist side is going

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Speaker 1: to be treated like they're on the same team as

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Speaker 1: the police. That's that's wild. It's it's very spitor man meme. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right. And then finally some good news shell Oil

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Speaker 1: is the profits who boo, Yeah, profit profits hit thirty

507
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Speaker 1: nine point nine billion in two, double last year's total

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Speaker 1: and the highest and it's fifteen year history. So the

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Speaker 1: year two, we remember what that year was was like

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Speaker 1: with the prices skyrocketing and everyone saying this is unavoidable,

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Speaker 1: and this being a key feature of how we were

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Speaker 1: feeling the pressure of inflation and lack of affordability that

513
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Speaker 1: is driving the strikes that we just talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: and people just not being able to live. So that

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Speaker 1: that year was double year over year profits for a

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Speaker 1: company that is one of the biggest, most profitable companies

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Speaker 1: in the world. And I know this is like a

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Speaker 1: The fact that I even have to ask this probably

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Speaker 1: tells you exactly. It's like a problem with both my

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Speaker 1: like rear in general, and like it's just like what

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Speaker 1: is enough money? Like at a certain point, like you

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Speaker 1: have to have enough money, right, like in what is

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Speaker 1: the point of even this? Like what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: spend it on? You're gonna be living in God, I

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Speaker 1: guess you're gonna be in the dome and everyone else

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00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: is in the water world. But yeah, this is money

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Speaker 1: you're accruing. It's and it's the scene in Doctor Strange

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00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Love where they're like, well, you know, we could all

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Speaker 1: just move into this cave, and you know there would

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Speaker 1: be a lot of men, but we would need to

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Speaker 1: really like procreate for populate the world. It's it is

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00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: that grim, like dark moment where the masters of the

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Speaker 1: universe are secretly plotting to just be like, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: that's it sounds like a y plan change, sounds like

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Speaker 1: a you're you problem. And I'm over here trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to move this forty billion dollars best

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Speaker 1: so I know I will be long dead when this

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00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: goes down. But when these people's militias turn against them

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00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: at the very first second of the apocalypse will be

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Speaker 1: very satisfying. Yeah, they're also being sued by fourteen thousand

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Speaker 1: people in Nigeria for completely destroying the local ecology their

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Speaker 1: way of life and are so sensitive to that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. I know, so, but again, like I don't

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Speaker 1: know that these these sorts of lawsuits. You know, even

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Speaker 1: when they do win in local court, they find a

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Speaker 1: way to just tie it up and endless. You know,

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Speaker 1: they put that forty billion to good use in legal fees.

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00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: All you could do is hurt that pile of money

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Speaker 1: which appears to be the thing worth destroying the world for.

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Speaker 1: And there's like no amount of fines you could give them.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, kind of like they're bad, bad thing for

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Speaker 1: the earth. I'll get kind of almost like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll google that and get back to you on

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00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: that one. All right, let's take a quick break, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back. We'll talk about the ugly produce movement, and

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00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: we're back. And so sprouts will now have an ugly

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00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: section for their produce in California, Like in addition to

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Speaker 1: organic that there will be an ugly section where just

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Speaker 1: misshapen off color, over or undersized let me see which

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Speaker 1: fruits they actually named, because it would be they named potatoes, onions, grapefruit, lemons, oranges, pears, carrots,

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Speaker 1: kiwi and bell peppers were the most fucked up dish

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Speaker 1: you've ever had, exactly. But basically, the there's a sorting

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Speaker 1: process us that happens before produced reaches grocery shelves, and

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Speaker 1: they get rid of any that have visible imperfections in

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Speaker 1: favor of, you know, whatever looks like the platonic ideal

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Speaker 1: of that fruit essentially, and so people have kind of

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Speaker 1: had the idea for a while now actually that this

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Speaker 1: is probably contributing to the fact that the U. S

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Speaker 1: d A estimates that as much as thirty of the U.

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Speaker 1: S food supply goes uneaten. So it's well, we're talking

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Speaker 1: it in a little bit, but so whole foods. A

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Speaker 1: couple other places tried to start a similar movement in

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Speaker 1: but like really couldn't get consumers on board. And there

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Speaker 1: was a recent study that said that just the natural

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Speaker 1: human assumption is that ugly food is actually worse for us,

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Speaker 1: even though it's not like completely incorrect. But a University

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Speaker 1: of British Columbia School of Business study found that people

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Speaker 1: assume ugly produces less nutritious and less delicious than it's

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Speaker 1: better looking counterparts, which is a bummer because it's not true.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it says such bad things about humanity

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Speaker 1: that like our our idea of you, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: say platonic ideal. I'm like, basically, we can't process any

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Speaker 1: food that doesn't look like a five year old druid.

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Speaker 1: This is like apple, but it's exactly like shape like this.

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Speaker 1: Let me search in my emoji apple and typically the

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Speaker 1: one that looks the most like an apple has all

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Speaker 1: the flavor bread out of it. You don't like the

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Speaker 1: red delicious your worst you're you know, platonic ideal of

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Speaker 1: what an apple should look like. And it's don't get

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Speaker 1: started on red delicious. And we you know this that

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Speaker 1: you know article that I wrote. I wrote this article.

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Speaker 1: But the mango market on WhatsApp and mangoes in America

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Speaker 1: are very beautiful, and the ones that come from India

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: box down Asia are these like bruised, little soft, messed

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Speaker 1: up things and you and they like covered can be

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Speaker 1: covered in black spots, and they are literally ten times

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Speaker 1: better than any like people like all your you know,

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Speaker 1: Asian parents are gonna be like, mangoes in America aren't mangoes,

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Speaker 1: and they really are. When you try them, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like they like taste like apples, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Tommy Atkins, and like all they don't have that kind

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00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: of like calmly sweet goodness that And so like this

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00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: article that I wrote, you know, back in was not

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Speaker 1: is like about how people will pay eight dollars a

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Speaker 1: mango because they know how much better they can be.

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Speaker 1: And I think it comes down to people just uh,

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Speaker 1: not really being very educated about seasonality. The other thing

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Speaker 1: that's crazy about that is when I've people have heard

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Speaker 1: about this, they're like, it'll be in January. They'll be like,

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Speaker 1: can I get some mangoes. I'm like, you think mangoes

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: grow in January? They do not. They only grow for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, like you know, it's in the summer,

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Speaker 1: like they're not or it's a season, it's not something

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00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: you can get. But here in America you can actually

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Speaker 1: get mangoes literally every month of the year because they're

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Speaker 1: importing from all sorts of different places, you know. So

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Speaker 1: on the misfits thing, I'll just say one thing, which

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00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: is if food waste is the primary problem. Then the

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Speaker 1: misfits thing is like a really small part of it.

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Speaker 1: Because even still all of the stuff that's coming to

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Speaker 1: the market, like they plan to make a profit on it,

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Speaker 1: to charge to charge as little as they do, that

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Speaker 1: half of it is going to be thrown out like

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Speaker 1: they just want you to, you know, they it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's a model already built on waste. And yes they're

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Speaker 1: slightly supermarkets are slightly reducing their wastes, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: really probably not as sustainable as supporting a local farmer

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Speaker 1: or cesa, which is you know, they're trying to still

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Speaker 1: get you in the door and support their overall very

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Speaker 1: bad for the climate. And so I'm a little skeptical

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Speaker 1: of these misfits markets. Yeah, I I am too, because

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Speaker 1: I mean one of the even even in this article

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Speaker 1: and the takeout that covers it, they mention and that

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Speaker 1: like when the food gets sorted before it's delivered to

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Speaker 1: the grocery stores, it's not just like thrown in a

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Speaker 1: can and picked up by the garbage truck. It's actually

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Speaker 1: used to feed animals or folded back into the soil

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Speaker 1: to add nutrients to the soil. So yeah, it doesn't.

639
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like this is the thing that's driving

640
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: food waste. Yeah, yeah, it's not the primary thing. Yet.

641
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: The whole supermarket model in general is just a huge

642
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: contributor to food waste. So they're just trying to kind

643
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: of launder their reputation a little bit. I think, yeah,

644
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: of course, and even these subscription boxes, like I'm not sure, like,

645
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, sure you're eating the wasted stuff, but if

646
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: it's being you know, driven on a gas power, you know,

647
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: a huge massive truck like or delivery event, like, is

648
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: that really more sustainable than just you know, not doing that.

649
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, buy from a local farmer or something.

650
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: But to be fair, buying c s A is those

651
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: things are expensive. I've tried, and I waste a lot

652
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: of my C s a s. So you know, I'm

653
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: calling the pot calling the kettle black over here, right, Yeah.

654
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a very productive lemon tree at

655
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: my house and I love it. It's one of the

656
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: one of the greatest gifts in my life. But it

657
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: produces i'd say, like ten percent of the lemons it

658
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: produces look like hr Geiger like designed them. There there

659
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: is some wild ship which which I feel like is

660
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: actually cool. Like if I saw some lemons that look

661
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: like that at the grocery store, I think I'd have

662
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: to be be on board with that. You know, a

663
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: lot of zesting surface area if you want to lemons

664
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: zest with that has like zulu tentacles coming out of

665
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: the top of it. Growing zucchini by the way, the

666
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: night king horns, right, if you don't cut them by

667
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: the time they become like that perfectly like even shape,

668
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: they just become these giant bulb like clatures that are

669
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: just horrified. And it's like I wouldn't know that unless I,

670
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: like my sister, had like a summer of trying to

671
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: grow zucchini's, Like I had no idea that like there

672
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: was a perfect time to cut a zucchini off the

673
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: stem where it like looks nice, and after that just

674
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: becomes so scary that like you don't want to eat

675
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: it obviously, like probably like the water content is too

676
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: high and those bigger ones. That's probably why people harvested

677
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: at that time. But it's like, yeah, and plants are

678
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 1: it can be really scary looking sometimes and they're still

679
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: we would eat those john zucchinis. It would be really

680
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: hard because it'd be huge. But I feel like there's

681
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: other stuff about the you know, to your point about

682
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: even if this isn't true, our snobbiness around how pretty

683
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: the fruit is like kind of works against the ultimate

684
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: product that you're getting with Like the isn't bananas are

685
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: all clones of the same banana that have like lost

686
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of there because the thing every other banana

687
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: is better than what you think is a banana, right, Yeah,

688
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: because when when you were designing the fruit, which all

689
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: fruit is like designed in a lab essentially, like at

690
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: this point, like when when you look at what corn

691
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: used to look like, it like, it wasn't on a

692
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: big dick shaped cob. It was like it looked like

693
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: a little garden weed for for a long time, and

694
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: then farmers were like, no, this should look more like

695
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: a big dick I think covered in corn. Yeah, well,

696
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: there's there's an interesting balance. Some of them do look

697
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: good on a shelf, but we've also seen improvements, like

698
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have not like this brussel

699
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: sprouts thing, where like everyone was like, we used to

700
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: hate bustle sprouts, and part of the reason that is

701
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: is because they bred the bitterness out of Brussels sprouts,

702
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: so like the night so the russell sprouts were eating

703
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: now are much better. So that's why they're so like

704
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: so much more delicious. So it's like it's interesting like

705
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the balance of like consumer education versus like the scientists,

706
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: like sort of like sneaking a vegetable in by improving.

707
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Like sweet corn also used to like many varized of

708
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: sweetcorn would like stop being sweet within like a minute

709
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: of harvesting them or something like that. Like you have

710
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: to like literally just grab them and put them on

711
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: the grill. So you know, it's interesting how sometimes you

712
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: get a benefit from that scientist, an other time it's

713
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: like why why don't you just make the fruit taste better?

714
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Like our fruit in general in America is awful. Sorry

715
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: to say. I can't think of many fruits, but I'm

716
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: very fond of especially in the American supermarket. Yeah, is

717
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: mango the number one the people need to go try

718
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: when they're outside of the US. I have had a

719
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: I was in Guatemala last year and had a scoop

720
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: of mango that I tasted like ice cream. It tasted

721
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: like it was made and you know, by a candy company.

722
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: It was the most delicious thing, and that it was

723
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: a consistency that I've never had in any sort of fruit,

724
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Like it was just so buttery and delicious. Simmons the

725
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: best person and I had this year. I I picked

726
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: it up and I bruised it with my like almost

727
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: went through the skin with my fingers. I was like,

728
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: basically like a water balloon. Yeah, well, remind me when

729
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: mayor June comes around, I'll try to get hook you

730
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: up with my mango dealer. And if you're willing to

731
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: spend you know, eight dollars on a mango forty dollars

732
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: for two cages, you know, you might have a life changing,

733
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: changing experience. You might not ever be able to go back.

734
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: But yes, I would say mangoes are definitely something you

735
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: need to try when you're outside of the US. I'm

736
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: not that familiar with the South American wants to be honest,

737
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: but it's a similar situation to what you're describing with

738
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: the bananas. That all of the ones in North America

739
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: much like coffee, like like eight like South Asia. East

740
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Asia is like like coffee for coffee beans in Ethiopia,

741
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: which is like there's more genetic diversity there, so there's

742
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: like a lot more varieties there. So I'm not that

743
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: familiar with the with the South American ones, but I

744
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: know that they're better than the American ones. The American

745
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: ones that come over the border from Mexico are not

746
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: really designed for flavor. There are some good Mexican varieties,

747
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: but it's like not the ones you get to the supermarket. Yeah.

748
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I think Americans assumed that because of American exceptionalism and

749
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, ship like that. They're like, well, we have

750
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: to have the best, and it's like no, They're they're

751
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: designing this product for you, a not very well informed consumer,

752
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: so like they just know that you're gonna you're gonna

753
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: be okay with it. That's available in December, like when

754
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: it should not be available. Yeah. I forget what Barry

755
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: it was, but there was a kind of long read

756
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: article about a company that designed its berries to be

757
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: like it the berries that we have now, we're designed

758
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: to be pickable by robots, essentially, because like that, that

759
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: is why it's that way. It has nothing to do

760
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: with how good it tastes. It's like it looks good

761
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: in a cart when you're going around the grocery store,

762
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: and it's a robot can pick it without destroying the fruit.

763
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: All the all the energy goes into harvesting and trucking,

764
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: and if it tastes better, that's a maybe a Brussels sprout.

765
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I feel like those sprots is just the anomally. Yeah.

766
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say about those Box Sunni mangas

767
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: is that they try to get them in supermarkets, but

768
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: they go bad within two days. So like they the

769
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: supermarkets are like the consumer doesn't want these ugly things,

770
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: you know that are like brown all over and getting soft,

771
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, they're better than any mango you've

772
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: ever had access to, but it's like they're not willing

773
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: to pay pay the price for that. I mean it's

774
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: also very expensive to fly them from Box, So I

775
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: mean that's also like a like a terrible climate change

776
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: story that like Box Sunnies like myself are so wild

777
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: about it that they're willing to like loaded up in

778
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: an airplane and get it blown over here. That's not

779
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: so good for the environment. So yeah, that's I wonder

780
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: if Brussels sprouts where it's like a story where it's

781
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: just they hit such a deep, dark bottom and they

782
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: it was like they were just you know, synonymous with gross.

783
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna spit this out if I try and feed

784
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: it too, And and that, you know, the people at

785
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: the at Big Brussels Sprout like really had to come

786
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: to Jesus moment where they're like, we need to actually

787
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: make these taste good. I think Mafia was like, broccoli

788
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: is over there, and they're laughing at us. The kids

789
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: are eating their broccoli. But if they will, if it's

790
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: just bitterness, it feels like genetic variation just naturally is

791
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna Look, they couldn't be more bitter. So if you

792
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: just randomize Brussels sprouts for a couple of generations, they

793
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: like almost have to taste better. There's like no no

794
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah right, Yeah, It's like they actually had

795
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: been designing them in the forties and fifties to punish children.

796
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: It turns out they were just like, we need a

797
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: taste like ship that these kids make sure they know

798
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: that God doesn't love them. You know. All right, let's

799
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: talk about Beyonce. Let's talk about taking master. Beyonce is

800
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: about to go on tour, and in addition to just

801
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: general concerns that the tickets are going to cost the

802
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: same as black market organs. A lot of fans are

803
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: worried that Ticketmaster is gonna totally screw this up for

804
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: some reason. I don't know where they're getting this concern from.

805
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that literally just happened with Taylor Swift. So

806
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: they were just Ticketmaster was just the subject of a

807
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, which didn't seem to solve that

808
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: much except it gave a platform for politicians to quote

809
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift lyrics in a just wildly cringing fashion. This

810
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: will get me on Twitter dot com, right, all right,

811
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: there we go Twitter dot com. Senator Richard Blumenthal of

812
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: Connecticut said Ticketmaster ought to look in the mirror and

813
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: say I'm the problem. It's me. Amy Klober said that

814
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: consolidation within an industry is a problem the United States

815
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: no knows all too well, and they should be forced

816
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: to if they're going to do that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

817
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee characterized restrictions on selling tickets as a

818
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: nightmare dressed like a day dream, which, god, yeah, I'm

819
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: excited for them to bring out the Beyonce lyrics when

820
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: that exactly and so the president of Ticketmaster's parent company,

821
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Live Nation apologized to Taylor Swift. Fans claimed it was

822
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: just the damn bots that are responsible for the terrible

823
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: consumer experience, saying they'll quote do better in the future.

824
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: But it's that that may be the case, that may

825
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: be like the problem they are failing to solve, but

826
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: from from the outside, it really appears to be that

827
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: Ticketmaster is a monopoly and so when their website breaks,

828
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: there's not another website that you go to them be like, well,

829
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: Ticketmaster sucks, so we'll go buy the tickets over here,

830
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: which is pretty straightforward. Like it feels like you you

831
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: we end up having to explain the dynamics of capitalism

832
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot capitalists, you know, is I I is there

833
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: a reason why is some monopoly? Is it just the

834
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: artists are a lot It's easier just to give all

835
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: our tickets to or the venues I guess technically sell

836
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: the tickets. Wasn't that the merger with Live Nation or something.

837
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a long time ago now, I mean, yeah,

838
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the ways that that I

839
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of things happen, you know, and and

840
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: there's just not the appetite to push back against corporations.

841
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: It's it's so they we allow these massive mergers to

842
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: go through. We're coming off of like forty years of

843
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: deregulation being the operative word in the US, and it's

844
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: like this is what you end up with. You end

845
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: up with like broken systems that like don't work because they,

846
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: like a corporation naturally wants to be a monopoly. You

847
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: can't can't just like passively hope that it's not going

848
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: to be one. Like that is a massive advantage for

849
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: them because they ultimately just want to make as much

850
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Speaker 1: money as possible while spending as little money as possible.

851
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: And you know that's bad. And like the bots don't

852
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: seem to be bad for them. I mean they want

853
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: like the sneaker drops, like they want their sneaker drops there,

854
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: the tickets, like all these companies benefit from the box.

855
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: It seems like to me, yes, their public opinion goes down,

856
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: but there's if there's no alternative, right, you have one place,

857
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: If you have one place that does good bought protection

858
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: and you have one place that doesn't, you're gonna go

859
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: to the place that has good protection against bots. But

860
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: if it's a monopoly they want, like they're not gonna

861
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna see a hit to their pockets if

862
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the bots are taken down there, they want their their

863
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: tickets to sell up. I mean the we sell maybe

864
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: even benefits them to something extent because it becomes even

865
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: more highly valued so they can charge more and more.

866
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: So I don't buy it, but the d and it

867
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: benefits like the bots benefit Ticketmaster because Ticketmaster has agreements

868
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: with the reseller sites that they get a cut of

869
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: every resale, so they are just making money on top

870
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: of the initial money that they made, and so they've

871
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: been busted like actually like making deals with resellers, you know,

872
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean they get they get a cut a portion

873
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: of like every ticket that gets resold on one of

874
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: these like other official resellers. But in twenty nineteen, the

875
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: company's president of US concerts was literally caught sending ninety

876
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: thousand Metallica tickets to a broker who Live Nation was

877
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: directed to hire with the participation of Metallics, Metallica's ticket consultant.

878
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: And just like we didn't notice that one because nobody

879
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: gives a shit about Metallity, I guess, but like it

880
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: was also like literally, what are you gonna do? I mean,

881
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: every artist, every Ticketmaster, every venue, their their response to

882
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: any of this is what are you gonna do? Yeah,

883
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: like a little bit. It's like huge artists like offloading

884
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: the being a bad guy to Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster doesn't care

885
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: that they're back. Like, it's just like creates a layer

886
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: of the service that Ticketmaster provides. Is creating a layer

887
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: of plausible deniability to artists to say to their fans, So,

888
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know it tick a master's fault. Ticketmasters, Like,

889
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who cares, right, Yeah, that that really

890
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: seems It's good for the artist because there's it creates demand,

891
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: it creates a story about how hard it is to

892
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: get the tickets to their show. It's good for Ticketmaster,

893
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: Like the only people that screws is the consumer. And

894
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: this is just I feel like this is naturally what

895
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: we'll be seeing more and more unless there is a

896
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: actual concerted like political movement to push back against consolidation

897
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: and deregulation and like these massive mergers. But we just

898
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen it in any real way in our lifetime,

899
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, like that this this is what was happening

900
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: in the like end of the nineteenth century early twentieth century,

901
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: where like the robber barons were just consolidating all their power,

902
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: and then things had to get like really fucking bet

903
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: for there to be like a massive pushback, and it

904
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: seems like that's where we're headed. Is there anyone you

905
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: would brave the ticket master chaos for what would be yours?

906
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: That you would be willing to do this for? Probably

907
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean's Yeah, yeah, I would do I would do

908
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: it for Frank Ocean. I really like Frank Ocean. I'm

909
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: too out of it to like ever. I only ever

910
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: know these things are going on sale. Would people start

911
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: complaining that they couldn't get tickets on Twitter? Right? Yeah? Yeah,

912
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: how about you? No? I think I think everybody that

913
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: I would have done it for is probably not somebody

914
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: that I would want to buy tickets from anymore. Let's

915
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: just say the probably the biggest castor ever went to

916
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: is Scotty back in the Easiest. That was one of

917
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: the rare times I was like, Okay, I'll put a

918
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of money to go see that, And now I

919
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: out want to do that anymore. Why would happen? Music

920
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: didn't realize I live like, I don't know five flocks

921
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: from Dodger Stadium, and I did not realize that night

922
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: that Elton John was doing whatever his like last show

923
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: ever at Dodger Stadium, and I, you know, popped out

924
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: to go get a taco and literally like was just

925
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: stuck on sunset for man. I took the turn and

926
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, And then I looked on

927
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: Twitter and everyone's like going to Elton John. I was like, well,

928
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess I live here now, Yeah, this is just

929
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: where my car is going to be. Yeah, you could.

930
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: But I also like grew up in that, like for

931
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: Midwestern punk ethis was like a place of selling more

932
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: than twenty Like they're selling tickets for more than twenty dollars,

933
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going was cool, That was right. We

934
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: were right back then. We were like talking about bands

935
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: selling out and talking about like you know, we're we're

936
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: skeptical of ticket Master and there's a big like Ticketmaster

937
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: movement and it just kind of went away. But and

938
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: like the idea of sellouts just like went away at

939
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: a time when I feel like we need that protection.

940
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: That's sort of natural fan based skepticism because it's it's bad.

941
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I'm like, wow, like yeah,

942
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: of course, like you want all the just to be

943
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: able to access the show, and like under twenty dollar

944
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: ticket is great for that, but it's like, how do

945
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: these bands survive that are not you know, who are

946
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: who are doing? Who are selling tickets for? I've actually

947
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: made a concerted effort to go to a couple of

948
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: like tickets shows of bands that I've like, I'm like

949
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: slightly interested in. I don't have to be like the

950
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: biggest fan, and I'm just like, yeah, this doesn't seem

951
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of people for this to travel the

952
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: country for. It's a hard it's a hard gig. So

953
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe like now that I'm older, like I would actually

954
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: give these bands like fifty dollars, you know what I mean? Yeah,

955
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: throw throw them a bomb. Yeah they're not getting a

956
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: record deal, that's gonna their Spotify streams are not paying

957
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: the bill. Gonna say they make their money off of

958
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: all those lucrative Spotify streams right the tenth of a cent?

959
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah bye bye them. My my friend Tonty, who is

960
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: my podcast go host you can see us now. She

961
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: has a rule which is like, if you listen to

962
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: an artist on Spotify, you know whatever number of times

963
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: by their record on vinyl because also they can never

964
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: take that away from you. Yeah, that's right. I just

965
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: got a record player to do that very same thing.

966
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: I have never been a vinyl person. I I fear

967
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: it'll be a dangerous habit for me, but I do,

968
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: like I want to throw throw them some money because

969
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: not a huge concert person. Yeah, and then Ticketmaster is

970
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: going to buy all the vinyl production get the corner

971
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: of the market. It's alright man. I've listened to tapes

972
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: which are made of oil so show and it's been

973
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can

974
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.

975
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter most actively at Rod Brown. Dad's sadly

976
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: still on Twitter. I have nowhere else to go if

977
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: but I also have this new podcast, like I mentioned,

978
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: m Radio Lingo from Crooked Media and du A Lingo.

979
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: You can find that anywhere you find your podcast. It's

980
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: also you know, linked on my Twitter profile. And then

981
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: I would also like to plug that Eater article I

982
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: didn't say it was for Eater earlier about mangoes. It's

983
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: like inside the secretive high stakes, semi elicit what's that

984
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: trade of mangoes? It's on Eater. That's the piece that

985
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I wanted James Beard, for which I still can't believe,

986
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: like still an amazing moment in my professional career, and

987
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of it. So yeah, those are kind

988
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: of my my three things. Please please, you know, read them,

989
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: listen to them, share them, and some more people can

990
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: find him. There you go. Thank you for having me.

991
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: It was really fun. Thanks for doing it. Is there

992
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: a tweet or some other work of social media you've

993
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Well? I had prepared media, so I was

994
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: going to talk about last of Us. Yeah, do media,

995
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: but we already talked about last of us. So it's

996
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: last of us that it's last of us. I mean,

997
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: I can I can try to cram for something here

998
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: look back through my you know, Okay, I will say one.

999
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I do have one. I do have one, which is

1000
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: Derek Guy die Work. Where who is this men'swear blogger?

1001
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't wear like suits or anything

1002
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: in my daily life, but I am fascinated by the

1003
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: online traditional like young guys who wear suits that like

1004
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: dead guys in the sixties war like die Work. Where

1005
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: is this guy on Twitter who has just become like

1006
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of articles written about how he

1007
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: became Twitter's main character, and everyone is like, like, who

1008
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: is this person? I'm sick of seeing them? But personally,

1009
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I have benefited from reading Derek guys stuff for years,

1010
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: so he's not like a random person. He's like an

1011
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: old Internet person who has been putting in the work forever.

1012
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, good for you that the algorithm pick

1013
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: to you. Like I I'm defending him against the haters.

1014
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: I think he's been putting up great content for years,

1015
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: even if you're not somebody who likes suits. He has

1016
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: a really interesting and open minded perspective on what dressing means.

1017
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: And I support his success. I hope he gets like

1018
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: a TV show or something like a reality TV show.

1019
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. There you go, amazing, Andrew pleasure

1020
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: having you on as host. People find you, follow you,

1021
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Uh Andrew t everywhere and yeah,

1022
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Speaker 1: if you know, if you if you like your as

1023
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Speaker 1: This Racist or I guess we've had more because my

1024
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Speaker 1: co host Tony Newsome on the podcast You As This

1025
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Speaker 1: Racist is also on Star Trek Lower Decks, so we

1026
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: uh get some Star Trek people come in to our

1027
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: live shows now. But yeah, so if you're Star Trek fan,

1028
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Speaker 1: if you're a whatever the hell I just did fan

1029
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Speaker 1: and you're in the Bay Area where at Cobbs Comedy

1030
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Speaker 1: Club this Saturday as part as F S s F

1031
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Speaker 1: Sketch Fest, And yeah, actually I think I recommend as

1032
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Speaker 1: also fashion Relay. Did I saw this on I think Twitter, Instagram,

1033
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: and I guess I haven't fully vetted these folks, but

1034
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: I their websites seems to indicate their good people. There's

1035
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: a group in Houston called the Screwston Anti Fascist Committee

1036
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: and I just bought a shirt from them that has

1037
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Speaker 1: a picture of a crocodile eating a Klansman and the

1038
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Speaker 1: Texas racist ain't safe in the Dirty South, And I

1039
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Speaker 1: was so looking. That's so good, amazing. Um. You can

1040
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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Julia Claire tweeted,

1041
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Speaker 1: can someone make a deep fake of my dad apologizing

1042
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Speaker 1: to me? I just want to see what it would

1043
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Speaker 1: look like. I think that's a good use of deep

1044
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: fake technology that hasn't been explore. You can find us

1045
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Speaker 1: on Twitter at daily zeitgeis were at the Daily Zeitgeist

1046
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on a website,

1047
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episodes and

1048
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Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information that

1049
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Speaker 1: we talked about into day's episode, as well as a

1050
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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer justin

1051
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Speaker 1: do you have a song that you think people might

1052
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Speaker 1: enjoy that we could link off to in the footnotes?

1053
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Speaker 1: I do. There's this song that you may have heard

1054
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Speaker 1: if you spent enough time in certain corners of the internet. Uh,

1055
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Speaker 1: it's blowing up pretty big is from a young Nigerian

1056
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Speaker 1: artist goes by Vic Tony the I c t o

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Speaker 1: in Why this song is called Soluato. It's featuring tempo.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. The thing I love about this song

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Speaker 1: is the versatility of it. Like if you want to

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Speaker 1: feel like you're on a beach with the open top cheep,

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Speaker 1: it works for that. If you want to smoke a

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Speaker 1: little bit on your couch, it works for that. If

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Speaker 1: you want to play it while you're getting ready for

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Speaker 1: a party, it works for that. It's it's very very

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Speaker 1: relaxing and it can take it to a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different places. But you know, it's got It's got a

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Speaker 1: nice rhythm to it, so you can move your hips

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Speaker 1: and get into it. So that's Sweto by Vic Tony

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Speaker 1: and Tempo and you can find that song in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: But notes alright, well, The Daily ZA Guys is a

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Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell

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Speaker 1: you what is trending and we will talk to you

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