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Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Chelamaine the guy.

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Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Laura LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we had our

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Speaker 3: systems Angela Rie with us this morning. And we got

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Speaker 3: a special guest in the building. And we have the

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Speaker 3: Governor of Maryland. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Wes Moore. Welcome, brother,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be back.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be back.

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Speaker 1: Good to see y'all.

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed, I'm good. I'm feeling feeling, feeling really good.

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Speaker 1: We're almost there. We got twenty six days in a

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Speaker 1: wake up to go do something special.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling? How are you feeling about the

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Speaker 2: chances of Madame Vice President?

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I think this race is gonna be close. I think

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Speaker 5: that this race is always gonna be close. This race

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Speaker 5: can be close up into election day. I think this

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Speaker 5: is a turnout game. And that's why I think that

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Speaker 5: this isn't about are we swaying people one way or another?

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Speaker 5: It's are we motivating people to come out in the

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Speaker 5: first place? And you're not finding a team that's working

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Speaker 5: harder right now, both amongst the Vice President who has

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Speaker 5: just been I mean, I think she's just running fantastic

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Speaker 5: campaign and she's the right candidate. But in addition to that,

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Speaker 5: you have a whole army of surrogates who are out

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Speaker 5: here every single day in all the battleground states speaking

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Speaker 5: to our constituents and our jurisdictions and letting people know

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Speaker 5: what's his stake and what we can actually get done

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Speaker 5: if we actually get out there and make our voices hurt.

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Speaker 6: You feel like the surrogates got activated too late for

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Speaker 6: the Democratic Party, because even when President Biden was running,

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Speaker 6: I was saying that, yo, he should be leaning on

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Speaker 6: people like you, leaning on Governor Gretchen, with leaning on

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Speaker 6: Governor Shapiro, leaning on the VP at the time. Do

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Speaker 6: you feel like the surrogates got activated too late? And

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Speaker 6: if so, why did y'all to just fall back?

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't I don't know if it was

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Speaker 5: activated too late, because I mean, you know, when I

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Speaker 5: think about myself and and and Gretchen and Josh and

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Speaker 5: countless others, you know, we've been out there and fighting

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Speaker 5: and advocating at that time for President Biden. But then

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Speaker 5: you know, we're we're grateful we have such that he

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Speaker 5: has such an extraordinary vice president, and we're going to

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Speaker 5: have such an extordinary president come January.

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Speaker 1: And Vice President Kamala.

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Speaker 4: Hers, what do you I'm sorry, No.

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Speaker 5: I mean so, I mean, I don't I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I would say that things got activated activated too late,

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Speaker 5: because also I think we have to remember and consistently

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Speaker 5: give grace to the vice president. I mean, she's had

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Speaker 5: a presidential campaign, what for ten weeks. In ten weeks,

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Speaker 5: she stood up an entire new campaign. She was able

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Speaker 5: to get all of the delegates and all the delegates

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Speaker 5: she needed. They ran a very successful convention. She had

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Speaker 5: gone through not just her demolishing her debate with Trump

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Speaker 5: and then also Governor Watz's And that's been ten weeks.

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Speaker 5: So I do think we have to give a little

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Speaker 5: a pretty short period of time.

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Speaker 4: I was going to ask, what do you think they

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Speaker 4: need to do more of?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked about, of course, the media blist

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Speaker 3: to do more to connect to those people that might

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Speaker 5: I think they need to keep doing what they're doing,

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Speaker 5: don't know if that's gonna move an election. If she

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Speaker 5: to go on Fox News, go to the people, because

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Speaker 5: the people are gonna be the ones to help them

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Speaker 5: think the other big thing that we've got to do

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Speaker 5: is I understand that, you know, she's running against someone

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Speaker 5: who is historically and uniquely unqualified and prepared for this role. Right,

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Speaker 5: we're talking about someone who who and let's just take

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Speaker 5: the past seventy two hours, right, the past seventy two hours,

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Speaker 5: we just got reports that he was deciding how much

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Speaker 5: aid to give California during wildfires based on their voting districts.

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Speaker 1: Right in the past event.

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Speaker 5: Two hours, we had him say, literally say that Vice

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Speaker 5: President Kamala Harris was born mentally impaired. Right in the

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Speaker 5: past seventy two hours, we have seen how the signature

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Speaker 5: injury of Iraq in Afghanistan, and I'm a very proud

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Speaker 5: veteran of the Afghanistan war, and the signature injury over

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Speaker 5: five hundred thousand people who have been diagnosed with traumatic

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Speaker 5: brain injuries. Right, the signature injury. We heard the former

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Speaker 5: president of the United States say it's nothing more than headaches.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, I mean, you.

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Speaker 5: Ain't even mentioned the Putin stuff, and not even mention

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Speaker 5: the fact that that he's got this consistent thing going

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Speaker 5: on with Putin. So my thing is, I don't think

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Speaker 5: we need to spend a whole lot more time talking

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Speaker 5: about the dangers Donald Trump, frankly, he tells on himself

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Speaker 5: every single day. Right, I think we have just continually

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Speaker 5: push and articulate the vision for the Vice president, which

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Speaker 5: is actually a vision not just that brings us together,

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Speaker 5: but is detailed. You know, when we're talking about things

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Speaker 5: be the most aggressive push that we can make on

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Speaker 5: a federal level to end chop poverty that we have

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Speaker 5: seen in this country. When she's talking about things like

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Speaker 5: to our minority owned businesses, making sure that going from

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Speaker 5: an idea into a large concepts and something that you're hiring, hiring,

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Speaker 5: you know, tens and thousands of people, can be real

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Speaker 5: for all communities and.

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Speaker 1: Not just some.

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Speaker 5: These are detailed plans that she's laying out her housing

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Speaker 5: turning renters into homeowners like these are details, These are

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Speaker 1: These are detailed plans.

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Speaker 5: And so as long as she continues to do that,

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Speaker 5: and for all of us, because all of us as

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Speaker 5: And I think that's going to be the message that

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Speaker 1: I think people get that.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you one more question. You know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people out there feel like both sides just

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Speaker 3: don't really care that it's all a political game, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Can you pull up that audio A

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Speaker 3: gentleman called this is the perfect way to say it.

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Speaker 3: A guy called today from Florida Tampa and he's dealing

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Speaker 3: say it, stop playing with me?

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Speaker 4: Can you flan?

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Speaker 7: It don't matter what that is? Democrat, Republican, may all

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Speaker 7: prison man, all about money. Bro, I think these people

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Speaker 7: care about American people. Bro It shit hurt, bro. This

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Speaker 7: should hurt, bro. People wake up every day. It's one

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Speaker 7: of a life.

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Speaker 8: Bro.

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Speaker 7: You got these fucking Greek snakes Man. You got these

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Speaker 7: fucking greed snakes call themselves government purpose people broke, and

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Speaker 7: they don't give a damn. Bro. They don't give a

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Speaker 7: damn about the micro's coming over here. They're using them too.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 7: It shit ain't right, man.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: Come bike man.

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Speaker 2: He said you wish God could come back.

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Speaker 3: That's the sentiments we've been hearing a lot from just

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Speaker 3: just open them up, the phone lines and how people

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Speaker 3: feel about government officials. So what do you say to

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Speaker 5: I mean, here's listening to them, because it's real, you know,

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Speaker 5: I we can't forget man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and when people.

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Speaker 5: Talk about what's the frustration that people feel, I think

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Speaker 5: for a lot of people, it's not a frustration with

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Speaker 5: It's the frustration with the pace of progress in this

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Speaker 2: Why didn't they believe in you?

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Speaker 1: That's another that's a whole other question because I know

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Speaker 1: you from being the CEO of the Robbin Hoo Foundations.

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Speaker 2: You've always been in the public service. Yeah, why didn't they.

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Speaker 2: Because you've been doing the work.

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Speaker 8: Anybody gonna harp on your pains.

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Speaker 1: Laugh at it, laugh at it, just laugh at it.

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Speaker 1: He's like, tell me again out your family don't believe it?

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Speaker 5: No, But it's like it's that I don't know if

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Speaker 5: they believed in the American political system. MM, like, can

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Speaker 5: you actually make a difference in that seat?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: We don't.

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Speaker 5: I will talk to like, oh yeah, election Day was

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Speaker 1: Because people just live in their lives.

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Speaker 5: They're not caught up in all this, And I think

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Speaker 5: there's there's there's a there's a few things that I

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Speaker 5: say to you know, say to this brother who you

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Speaker 5: is important to remember even for those who feel like well,

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Speaker 5: who's sitting in these seats doesn't matter to me and

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Speaker 5: the political system doesn't involve me and I'm not engaging it,

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Speaker 5: I would just say never forget that everything about your

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Speaker 5: And so I was really proud where you know, she

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Speaker 1: But this is going to be a fight, and the

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Speaker 9: Are you concerned about the interest that folks have in

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Speaker 6: You can't change this mind ouse people to use the

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Speaker 5: There's a difference between saying that I continue to think

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Speaker 10: When you talk about the track records, I instantly just

443
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Speaker 10: think about a conversation we were having earlier with the

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Speaker 10: hurricane relief, like the conversations back and forth between Kamala

445
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Speaker 10: and DeSantis. Right, Why isn't it with across the board,

446
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Speaker 10: Why aren't something just common sense? Because me, if I'm

447
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Speaker 10: political and I'm working in the Maryland Baltimore area, crime

448
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Speaker 10: is the first thing I think of trying to solve.

449
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Speaker 10: That's common sense. Why don't they do that on these

450
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Speaker 10: other levels, with these other issues like why isn't it

451
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Speaker 10: just this is what people need, let's figure it out.

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Speaker 8: Why why is it so hard?

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Speaker 5: No, it's a great point because I think one thing

454
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Speaker 5: I've learned about in this world of governance, it's all

455
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Speaker 5: about prioritization. What do you hold yourself to account to

456
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Speaker 5: and what are the things that you are going to prioritize.

457
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Speaker 5: And so when we came in, we were very clear,

458
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Speaker 5: you know, the top priority for how we're going to

459
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Speaker 5: do our work is making sure that people feel safer

460
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Speaker 5: in their communities and in their neighborhoods. And that's why

461
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Speaker 5: we really took and all of the above approach and

462
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Speaker 5: the way that we're going to go about this work.

463
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Speaker 5: But it was centered on one thing, humanity. It was

464
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Speaker 5: centered on this idea of who is it that we

465
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Speaker 5: are trying to support? And I know that I have

466
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Speaker 5: seen that throughout our time as government. If you never

467
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Speaker 5: forget who you're fighting for, you won't stop fighting, and

468
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Speaker 5: you'll continue to come up with ways and making sure

469
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Speaker 5: that you're centering here humanity inside of that work. And

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Speaker 5: so whether you're talking about making sure that kids are

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Speaker 5: safe in their classrooms, whether you're talking about people have

472
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Speaker 5: a chance to respond when these when these natural disasters

473
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Speaker 5: come on, you know, come on board. Whether it's making

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Speaker 5: sure that people have broadband access and that you're having

475
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Speaker 5: a technological revolution, that you're not just completely leaving people behind,

476
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Speaker 5: whether it's making sure that you're investing in health care

477
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Speaker 5: and not just not just health care in the in

478
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Speaker 5: certain parts of the state, but really making sure that

479
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Speaker 5: every part of your state is getting the health care

480
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Speaker 5: needs that can help them to not just thrive but

481
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Speaker 5: also but also truly grow inside that community. So I

482
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Speaker 5: think you've got to center your work on humanity and

483
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Speaker 5: never forget why you've gotten his business in the first place.

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Speaker 5: And I think for a lot of people that is

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Speaker 5: a real challenge for them.

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Speaker 2: Can we go back to the pre governor Wes Moore?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because you know you said you never

488
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Speaker 6: ran for any office, right and I knew you from

489
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Speaker 6: being the CEO.

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Speaker 2: Of the Robbinoe Foundation last time I was here, That's right.

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Speaker 6: So what made you want to run for governor and

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Speaker 6: what made you feel qualified for governor?

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Speaker 1: MM? Qualified.

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Speaker 5: You know, It's funny because I remember when I got

495
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Speaker 5: in the race, there were three statewide elected officials, two

496
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Speaker 5: cabinet secretaries, one person that was on my board, which

497
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Speaker 5: made board meetings very awkward.

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Speaker 1: And I remember that was the argument they kept.

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Speaker 5: On throwing at me about you know, well, you know he,

500
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Speaker 5: how's he qualified? And I said, let me explain something,

501
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Speaker 5: And I said, I'm a kid who you know, watched

502
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Speaker 5: my father die in front of me when I was

503
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Speaker 5: three years old because he didn't get the health care

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Speaker 5: he needed. That I'm a person who had handcuffomeder wrists

505
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Speaker 5: when I was eleven because I came up in communities

506
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Speaker 5: that were overpolaced, and we knew it that my mother

507
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Speaker 5: did not get her first job that gave her benefits

508
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Speaker 5: until I was fourteen. And by the way, this is

509
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Speaker 5: a woman who went on earning master's degree. So any

510
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Speaker 5: conversations about inequitable pay between men and women or the

511
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Speaker 5: racial wealth gap, it's like, I don't need a white

512
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Speaker 5: paper to explain that that I'm a person who' drowed

513
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Speaker 5: the army when I was seventeen, that I led soldiers

514
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Speaker 5: in combat. I you know, I worked in finance, I

515
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Speaker 5: ran my own business, sold that business and turn around

516
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Speaker 5: and with CEO of one of the largest poverty fighting

517
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Speaker 5: organizations in this country. And my argument to them was

518
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Speaker 5: I am never in a remando belonging, and let's be clear,

519
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Speaker 5: I'll put my qualifications against any of them. And we

520
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 5: ended up winning with more individual votes than anyone who'd

521
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Speaker 5: ever run for governor in the history of the state

522
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Speaker 5: of Maryland. And I think about the thing that really

523
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Speaker 5: motivated me. And it's funny because we talked a little

524
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Speaker 5: bit about it last time I was here. Where who

525
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Speaker 5: sits in these seats? It does matter, and what they

526
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Speaker 5: prioritize does matter. And I remember, you know, one of

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Speaker 5: the issues that I will never I will never losing

528
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Speaker 5: importance of it. I do not understand why in this

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Speaker 5: country we allow child poverty. I don't get how we're

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Speaker 5: allowing the destiny of our children to be determined before.

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Speaker 1: They even have a say, right, and.

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Speaker 2: So chop poverty thoughts with adults being poort.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's exactly right, and we can get a nap.

534
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Speaker 5: But and so so I said. And when I was

535
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Speaker 5: even working over at Robinhood, I was like, Okay, we're

536
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Speaker 5: going to focus on the issue of the child tax credit.

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Speaker 5: And the big reason because I thought about over thirty

538
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Speaker 5: years of philanthropy, the Robin Hood is done remarkable work

539
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Speaker 5: that Robin Hood has done that an adjustment on the

540
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Speaker 5: child tax credit could literally sixfold every and we're talking

541
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Speaker 5: billions that robin Hood has done in its history. An

542
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Speaker 5: adjustment of a child tax credit, making it fully refundable,

543
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Speaker 5: paying it out monthly would actually have more of an

544
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Speaker 5: impact on child poverty by sixfold than what they've done

545
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Speaker 5: over thirty years. And so this is the argument that

546
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Speaker 5: I was pushing about why policy matters. I was speaking

547
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Speaker 5: with a former governor about this issue, and I was

548
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Speaker 5: trying to explain to him the details of the child

549
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Speaker 5: tax credit, why this thing was so important, and I

550
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Speaker 5: literally told me, I said, you should talk about it

551
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Speaker 5: in your state of the state. I was like, here's

552
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Speaker 5: a line you should use. And I got an advanced

553
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Speaker 5: copy of the state of the state address and I

554
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Speaker 5: realized there was nothing in there about the child tax credit.

555
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Speaker 5: There was nothing in there about child poverty. So I'm pissed, right,

556
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Speaker 5: So I call up the head of policy at the organization.

557
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Speaker 5: I ran and I'm just ranting, and then Finally, when

558
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Speaker 5: I breathed, he said to me, he said, listen, we've

559
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Speaker 5: worked for six months to try to get them to

560
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Speaker 5: include a line in the speech. Well what if you

561
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Speaker 5: could write the whole speech? And that's the point. The

562
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Speaker 5: reason we have these discrepancies is not just because these

563
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Speaker 5: are policies that will allow this to happen. The reason

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Speaker 5: that we had in my state of eight to one

565
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 5: racial wealth gap is not because one group is working

566
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Speaker 5: eight times harder. It's because of the Homestead Act, and

567
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Speaker 5: it's because of unfair appraisal, unfair appraisal values and historically

568
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Speaker 5: red line neighborhoods. And it's because an unfair usage of

569
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Speaker 5: the GI Bill, and it's because of racist procurement policies.

570
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Speaker 5: So if we understand that policies help to create these dynamics,

571
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Speaker 5: it has to be policies that have to then unearth them.

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Speaker 5: And so when I gave my first State of the

573
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Speaker 5: State address, you know, we spent probably a quartet thing

574
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Speaker 5: talking about child poverty and about how we were going

575
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Speaker 5: to make the most aggressive and bipartisan push in our

576
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Speaker 5: state's history to end child poverty. And that's exactly what

577
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Speaker 5: we've done. And so the big reason why I decided

578
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Speaker 5: to get into this is if you aren't talking about

579
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Speaker 5: policy on these issues, then you can do philanthropy all

580
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Speaker 5: you want. You can do all that. So you're blue

581
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Speaker 5: in the face. There is not enough philanthropy in the

582
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Speaker 5: world to upend bad policies, and so policymakers have got

583
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Speaker 5: to get in the game. And that's why I just

584
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 5: said that. Uh, I'm as qualified as any of them.

585
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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 9: You. Since writing the book the other Wes More being

587
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Speaker 9: a White House fellow, a Rhodes scholar, I think folks

588
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Speaker 9: have always asked you about your political ambitions. Being on

589
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Speaker 9: the short list as a VP contender, do you have

590
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Speaker 9: aspirations to at some point run for president.

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Speaker 1: I'm cut it out with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't buy it either out and so why

593
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Speaker 8: not like you, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, eight years from now, no sure, and listen, I'm

595
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Speaker 5: I'm I know, never mind me, it's some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I know.

597
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 4: I'm happy to think you were gonna run for governor too.

598
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 5: And that's and that's the point, right, So I so

599
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: I know, listen, I mean, I'm forty five. I mean,

600
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Speaker 5: I'm one of the youngest governors in the country, right,

601
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Speaker 5: and I love the work that we're doing in Maryland.

602
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 5: Maryland's just moving faster than everybody in the country if

603
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: you look at everything we are doing, from advancing economic opportunities,

604
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: to creating pathways for work, wages and wealth, to removing

605
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Speaker 5: the barriers that exist for people to go into a workforce,

606
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Speaker 5: the work we've done around criminal justice reform. I mean,

607
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Speaker 5: I'm really proud of the work that Maryland's doing.

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Speaker 9: I think, but asking you if you have aspirations at

609
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Speaker 9: some point to run for president isn't poop pooting your

610
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Speaker 9: work in Maryland. Saying if you're if you have the

611
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Speaker 9: approval rating you have right now, which is high, you've.

612
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Speaker 8: Garnered the most amount of support than.

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Speaker 9: Any other governor who's ever ran in your gubernatorial race,

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Speaker 9: why not to Lauren's question, now.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think so. I think for me it's really twofold.

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Speaker 5: One is my exclusive focus is on making sure to

617
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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris is the next president. Noted states I can't

618
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Speaker 5: streuss enough how import it's to my state, to my

619
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Speaker 5: community that she is the person who becomes the next president.

620
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Speaker 8: In twenty twenty four.

621
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Speaker 9: But we're saying, at some point, if we if we

622
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Speaker 9: know that if she does not win, there won't be another.

623
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Speaker 1: Election to win, which is what she needs.

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Speaker 8: No right, I'm.

625
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Speaker 9: Saying if we know from the statements of the former

626
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Speaker 9: president that if he wins, there will not be another election.

627
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Speaker 8: That is a quote, so we know the importance of

628
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Speaker 8: her winning. We're not. I'm not saying that. I'm just

629
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Speaker 8: saying why not? Lauren said why not?

630
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, and I think I think for me

631
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Speaker 5: and I don't. I don't have an answer, and honestly,

632
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Speaker 5: it's because I just haven't.

633
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Speaker 1: Put enough thought into it.

634
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Speaker 5: So, for example, Elijah Cummings was a was like my

635
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: guy when a mentor mind congressman from from Baltimore, and

636
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Speaker 5: I remember.

637
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Speaker 1: After he passed, there are people who came.

638
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Speaker 5: Up to me and were like, listen, you know, what

639
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: do you think about running for elijah seat.

640
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Speaker 1: He was a mentor of mind.

641
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Speaker 5: And I didn't do it because it's not that I

642
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: don't love Elijah and it's not that I don't want

643
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 5: to make sure that his legacy is not honored. It

644
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: just wasn't speaking to me. But when I decided I

645
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 5: was running for governor, you couldn't have convinced me not

646
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: to run. When they're like this person's think about getting

647
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Speaker 5: in and this person's the former head of the DNC,

648
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: and this person, I said, good, I look forward to

649
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 5: see him in the battle. You know what I mean,

650
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: because I knew that's what I wanted to do, and

651
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: no one could have convinced me differently. So I'm very

652
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: at peace with saying if I'm not in it, I'm

653
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Speaker 5: not in it.

654
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Speaker 1: And I'm good with that.

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Speaker 5: And I can tell you right now that's why when

656
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Speaker 5: I say my focus is really on making sure that

657
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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris who comes to next president United States, Like,

658
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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 2: That, I believe you.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna tell you something about eleven years ago,

661
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Speaker 6: maybe longer, John Sykes when he introduced me, he said,

662
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Speaker 6: he I want you to meet somebody. I need you

663
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Speaker 6: to connect with this brother named Wes Moore. He's going

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Speaker 6: to be the next Barack Obama.

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Speaker 2: That's how you were introduced to me twelve years ago.

666
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Speaker 2: So people clearly see that esque.

667
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Speaker 8: It's because it feels like you really care about the people.

668
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Speaker 2: And I don't think it's good you're black either.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's just I'm not trying to anybody.

670
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Speaker 9: I knew that was, but I think at that point,

671
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Speaker 9: only having one people say based on what they know,

672
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Speaker 9: Like we know Kamala Harris also isn't gonna be the

673
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Speaker 9: next Barack Obama.

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Speaker 8: She's gonna be the first Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think this is just like I don't

677
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Speaker 4: see that my calls right now, but four years ago.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I gotta.

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Speaker 8: I'm not thinking about it right now. So they don't

680
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Speaker 8: run this clip back. I would say, they're gonna bring it.

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Speaker 1: Up and be like, well, you said, you know, And

682
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Speaker 1: I mean what I say.

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Speaker 5: It's like when when when I'm when I'm locked into something,

684
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Speaker 5: I'm locked in, and I'm locked in to be in

685
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Speaker 5: the governor of the state of Maryland, and I mean,

686
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Speaker 5: I am. I look at what we're doing right now.

687
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Speaker 5: This really is gonna be Maryland's decade. This is gonna

688
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Speaker 5: be our time because it's the time we're just gonna

689
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Speaker 5: lead with love and honesty and and I'm really proud

690
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Speaker 5: of the results we've gone so far, and I think

691
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Speaker 5: the people of Maryland are very happy with it.

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Speaker 2: One thing you've done that is great.

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Speaker 6: You pardoned one hundred and seventy five thousand Mariulana, Maryland

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Speaker 6: convictions related to the possession of weed, including convictions for

695
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Speaker 6: mister Meta possession of weed in certain convictions for mister

696
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Speaker 6: Media possession of drug prawer familia.

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Speaker 5: What led you to do that? Well, you know, it's funny.

698
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Speaker 5: It was something that I've been talking about long before

699
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Speaker 5: I ever decided to run for office. I do not understand.

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Speaker 5: There's a few things I just don't get. One is

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Speaker 5: how cannabis is in the same classification level as heroin.

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Speaker 1: That just makes absolute no sense.

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Speaker 5: And the other piece was, as we were having this

704
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Speaker 5: larger movement that was taking place around how people were

705
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Speaker 5: just completely not acknowledging history and how cannabis was just

706
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Speaker 5: consistently used as a cudgel, particularly in black communities.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, cannabis.

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Speaker 5: Was actually on the ballot in the state of Maryland

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Speaker 5: in fact, so I ended up getting, you know, more

710
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Speaker 5: individual votes that year than anybody else. The only thing

711
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Speaker 5: that beat me on the ballot that year was cannabis.

712
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Speaker 5: Cannabis one was seventy percent of the vote. So I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 5: who is cannabis now popular?

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Speaker 9: When I brought up pardons, and I do want to

715
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Speaker 9: ask you, this one isn't in your purview per se.

716
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Speaker 9: But there's a federal pardon that I think many of

717
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Speaker 9: us are still seeking, and that's for Marilyn Moseby. She

718
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Speaker 9: submitted a parton application that included attorneys like Barry Scheck

719
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Speaker 9: from the Innocents Project, Ben Crump, who's a legendary civil

720
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Speaker 9: rights attorney, Barbara Armwine, legendary voting rights activists who worked

721
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Speaker 9: hand in hand with Marylynd. Can you talk about the

722
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Speaker 9: importance of Joe Biden partnering her before his ten years up?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and and I've said, I mean, this

724
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Speaker 5: is this one's personal because what was your friends?

725
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Speaker 1: I've noticed little girls and say it was little girls.

726
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Speaker 5: And uh, in fact, I remember last time I was

727
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Speaker 5: on the show, I remember talking about the role that

728
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Speaker 5: she played in just calming our community where there's this

729
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Speaker 5: narrative that was taking place after everything that happened with

730
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Speaker 5: Freddy Gray, that you know that there were protests and

731
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Speaker 5: then on the night of Freddie Gray's funeral, how it

732
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Speaker 5: became violent and you had this you have this unrest

733
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Speaker 5: that took place and and people talk about how and

734
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Speaker 5: then the National Guard was called in. People say, well,

735
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Speaker 5: it's good that the National Guard got called in because

736
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Speaker 5: that's what calmed everything down. That's actually not true, because

737
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Speaker 5: the truth is they are going to have the biggest

738
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Speaker 5: protests since that entire thing happened on that Saturday after

739
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Speaker 5: the National Guard got called in.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

741
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Speaker 5: Militarization does not produce calm. Hearing a community does. And

742
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Speaker 5: the reason that there was calm was because Marilyn Moseby

743
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Speaker 5: came out and actually said that we need to have accountability.

744
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Speaker 5: And then she brushed arginal on the officers. So the

745
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Speaker 5: thing that I would say about it is this, and

746
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Speaker 5: again it is it is. It's both personal, So I

747
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Speaker 5: try to separate myself from what the personal is. UH.

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Speaker 1: And I know that this is a uh, it's not

749
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Speaker 1: a state decision.

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Speaker 5: This is something that falls exclusively in the in the

751
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Speaker 5: hands of the other president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: I just keep on thinking about these kids. I keep

753
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Speaker 1: thinking about her uh, her.

754
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Speaker 5: And Nick's daughters. I keep on thinking about the public

755
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Speaker 5: servants that they have been in.

756
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Speaker 1: These are two people.

757
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Speaker 5: Who have devoted their lives to be able to support

758
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Speaker 5: the people of Baltimore. Her as the former States Attorney,

759
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Speaker 5: him is now the city council president. And I just

760
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Speaker 5: hope as as all these decisions are being made that

761
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Speaker 5: compassion and grace is just not lost.

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Speaker 2: So you feel Biden should give her a part.

763
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Speaker 5: I can't tell the President of United States what to do.

764
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Speaker 5: I just hope compassion and grace he has never lost

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Speaker 5: in these decision making process.

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you about the state decision.

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Speaker 6: How come we can't well, how come you can't pardon

768
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Speaker 6: all non violent marijuana offenses period.

769
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Speaker 2: Across the world.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, so if you look at the pardon that

771
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Speaker 5: we did and so yeah, so going back, So what

772
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Speaker 5: ended up happening was we spent the past year doing

773
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Speaker 5: what many people believe to be the most equitable and

774
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Speaker 5: safe and successful rollout for recreational cannabis in the country.

775
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Speaker 5: So now in the state of Maryland, we have a

776
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Speaker 5: new billion dollar industry for cannabis. Of the new licenses,

777
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Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy four new social equity licenses have

778
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Speaker 5: put together, and by the way, over one hundred of

779
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Speaker 5: them have been new black owners in the cannabis market.

780
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Speaker 5: So we've really set the standard on what that looks like.

781
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Speaker 5: But my big thing was this, you cannot celebrate the

782
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Speaker 5: benefits of legalization if you do not address the consequences

783
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Speaker 5: of criminalization if you do not address the fact that

784
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Speaker 5: there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds, thousands of people

785
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Speaker 5: whose lives have now been immeasurably changed and altered because

786
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Speaker 5: of something that is no longer even illegal in our

787
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Speaker 5: communities anymore. And so the reason that we led you know,

788
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Speaker 5: I ended up partnering one hundred and seventy five thousand

789
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Speaker 5: cannabis com It's the largest mass part in the history

790
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Speaker 5: of this country. And where I know that we can't

791
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Speaker 5: be done either when we're thinking about this. In fact,

792
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Speaker 5: just this past week, you know, I just just excuse

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Speaker 5: the fees for people who you know, violational role and

794
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Speaker 5: drug testing, because again it's something that continues to be

795
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Speaker 5: used as a cudgel to keep people criminalized. And you

796
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 5: can't make every sentence a life sentence. And so the

797
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: reason that we've moved so aggressively on this issue, and

798
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Speaker 5: now we're going to continue working with the legislature because

799
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Speaker 5: some of the stuff is gubernatorial authority, like executive orders,

800
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Speaker 5: some of this stuff has to get pass through the legislature.

801
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Speaker 5: So now we're working with our legislative partners to make

802
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Speaker 5: sure that we can really deal with this issue of

803
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Speaker 5: long term expungement is because it's both about fairness and

804
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: also it's about economics. I am focused on getting people

805
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 5: back into the workforce. And if you look at what

806
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: we've done within our state, that we have quadrupled the

807
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Speaker 5: amount of people in our trade and apprenticeship programs, that

808
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: we have created, the first time in this country, that

809
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Speaker 5: we now have a service year option for all of

810
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: our high school graduates, giving them a chance to have

811
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Speaker 5: a year of paid service to the State of Maryland.

812
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Speaker 5: That we made historic investments in childcare, the largest singular

813
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Speaker 5: investments in childcare in our state's history. Because if you

814
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Speaker 5: really want to get people back into the workforce, particularly

815
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 5: young parents, particularly young particularly women, you must fund childcare.

816
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Speaker 5: Because asking people to make a decision between is my

817
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 5: child going to be okay? Or am I going to

818
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: go to the work or are gonna go to work

819
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Speaker 5: is not a fair ask. And the big thing about

820
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Speaker 5: the pardons was it now allowed.

821
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Speaker 1: People to get back into the workforce. One of the

822
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Speaker 1: people I pardoned.

823
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Speaker 5: That day was a guy named Shiloh who was standing

824
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Speaker 5: with me. Shiloh, the only thing on his record is

825
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: a misdemeanor cannabis conviction, and he now has had an

826
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Speaker 5: inability to find stable work since. I mean he literally

827
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: had a job. He's talking about a job that he

828
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: had that was a great job for him. He was

829
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Speaker 5: fired on the second day because he couldn't pass a

830
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Speaker 5: background check. This is crazy what we've done to communities.

831
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Speaker 5: And so I look at this, what we've done around

832
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Speaker 5: criminal justice reform, what we've done around the pardons is

833
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: is not just about it's the socially right thing to do,

834
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Speaker 5: it's the economically smart thing to do. Because if you

835
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Speaker 5: look at where our staates right now. When I was

836
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 5: first inaugurated, Maryland was forty third in the coin in unemployment. Now,

837
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Speaker 5: going on thirteen straight months, Maryland has amongst the lowest

838
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: unemployment rates in the entire country. Our unemployment right now,

839
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Speaker 5: right now in Maryland is two point nine percent. If

840
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 5: you want to create a growing economy, you must create

841
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: an inclusive economy. And I want more people to have

842
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: the opportunity to get back into the work.

843
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Speaker 6: So I agree, But I agree, but will it'll be

844
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Speaker 6: bigger than just simple possession, Like is there a way

845
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Speaker 6: to do just non violent marijuana offensive?

846
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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

847
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Speaker 5: And these are things that I and again part of

848
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: it's working with the legislature because part of these things

849
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Speaker 5: you have to actually change laws, and that requires the

850
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 5: legislature involved. But I don't think that just doing the

851
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Speaker 5: the while it was the largest in the country's history,

852
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Speaker 5: that was also an important first stept.

853
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Speaker 1: But we're not.

854
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: Done because you have to create a system. And here's

855
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Speaker 5: the thing. Here's the thing that also I want to

856
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: be able to prove that we can do two things

857
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Speaker 5: at once, right, because when people we came on board,

858
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: people said, there's two challenges.

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Speaker 1: That Maryland's facing.

860
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Speaker 5: One, Maryland had this explode crime rate, homicide rates. Again,

861
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Speaker 5: like I mentioned before, Baltimore went eight straight years of

862
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Speaker 5: three hundred plus homicides.

863
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Speaker 1: So we have to address the violence.

864
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Speaker 5: And we had to address the fact that Maryland incarcerated

865
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Speaker 5: more African American men between the ages of eighteen and

866
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Speaker 5: twenty five than any place in this country.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Number two was Mississippi. Maryland was number one.

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Speaker 5: And so I said, we've got to be able to

869
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Speaker 5: address these two things at the same time, that we

870
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Speaker 5: can yes, both address the issue of violence and also

871
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Speaker 5: not think that the answer is just locking up black boys.

872
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Speaker 5: And so I think one thing we've been able to

873
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Speaker 5: show in our work is yes, we can be humane

874
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 5: about the way we deal with things like parens and

875
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Speaker 5: expungements and getting people back into a workforce and cutting

876
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 5: down on the recidivism rate. Yes, we can also make

877
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Speaker 5: sure that we are making have made historic investments in

878
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 5: local law enforcement and utilization of technology, and making sure

879
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 5: that you are getting violent offenders and repeat violent offenders

880
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: off of our streets, and so addressing these two things

881
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: at the same time, that argument of locking up more

882
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: black men is not going.

883
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: To make you safer.

884
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: And I think the thing that we're showing in the

885
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: state of Maryland is you can do both of those things,

886
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: to both those two things, addressed the incarceration rates and

887
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 5: make your community safer at the same time.

888
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, you know, Governor Wes Moore, why

889
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: is it working in Maryland and not in a.

890
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: Lot of these other cities and states. So what would you.

891
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 3: Tell to some of these other mayors and governors who

892
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: are having the same problems you have when you first

893
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: came in And crime is high, and unemployment and people

894
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: can't find jobs, and people are dealing with immigrants and

895
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: migrants coming over, and people are dealing with you know,

896
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: they can't afford their homes, can't afford food, can't afford gas.

897
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: What do you tell those city officials?

898
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 5: I would say, always leave with data and don't let

899
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: the politics get away to stuff man, because I think

900
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: part of the problem is people get caught up in

901
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 5: these talking points and these policy issues about like what

902
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 5: does ex party think?

903
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: Or what is why party think?

904
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 5: Or this and that, And I'll say, we have but

905
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 5: a certain amount of time in these jobs, right I'm

906
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: you know, I know because I have a clock on

907
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: my desk about how much time I have left on

908
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 5: my first term. Don't waste a single one of those days.

909
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: And so I think the reason that we've been able

910
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 5: to get the things done we've been able to get

911
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 5: done is because we leave with data.

912
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: You know.

913
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: The reason that I was unapologetic when I talk about

914
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 5: things like how I want Maryland to be the state

915
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: that ends the racial wealth gap, and people said, well,

916
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 5: isn't that a binary choice? And I said no. But

917
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: the thing is is that what we have right now

918
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 5: is a binary system. The reason I want Maryland to

919
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 5: be a state that ends a racial wealth gap is

920
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: because I believe in growing the economy that the racial

921
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: wealth gap has cost this country sixteen trillion dollars in

922
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 5: GDP over the past two decades. That's not gross semester

923
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: product of a group.

924
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: I've heard you say that racism is expensive as well.

925
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: It is terribly expensive. And so the reason that I'm

926
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: saying so be unapologetic.

927
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: And say it.

928
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Talk about the issues of racism and bigotry.

929
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: Talk about how you're going to address things like a

930
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: broken and a racist procurement policy. The reason that we

931
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: have gone, you know, in our in our state, just

932
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: since I've been the governor, we have we have shifted

933
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: the way we look at procurement. Right now, we've allocated

934
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: over two and a half billion dollars towards mv s

935
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 5: and black.

936
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Owned businesses and and and it's.

937
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 5: Not because we're showing favorite sism, because it's that we

938
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: actually believe that's helping to grow the economy. And it

939
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: is when you're giving more people opportunities, when you stop

940
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: giving away free waiver processes. And so the thing I

941
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: would just ask people is lead with data and don't

942
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 5: be afraid to be bold, like go after big problems,

943
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: because if that's not what you're doing, then why bother

944
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 5: why are you even sitting in the seat?

945
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: He has to go in the second side.

946
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 6: I got, I got to I'm good, I got. I

947
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: got two that I really really want to ask. One

948
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 6: is Maryland voters just I saw them approve of your

949
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 6: performance in a recent poll, but they were split on

950
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 6: the economy. And it bugs me out because why why

951
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 6: is there a perception that Democrats are not good in

952
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 6: regards to the economy when the US economy performs better

953
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: under Democratic president I don't.

954
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: I don't thin we talk about it the right way, man,

955
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 5: We really don't, and we excuse it, you know, I

956
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 5: don't understand when we're having these conversations. So, for example,

957
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: we've made historic investments in childcare in our state, right,

958
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: we made historic investments in apprenticeship and trade programs. We

959
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: made a historic investments in getting people back into the workforce.

960
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 5: We've raised the minimum wage because I just believe deeply

961
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: that gone should be the days when you have people

962
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: who are working jobs and in some cases multiple jobs,

963
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: and still living at or below a poverty line. That

964
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: we just passed the most aggressive housing package of any

965
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: Maryland governor in recent history, and focusing on things like

966
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: turning renters into homeowners, focusing on things like unfair appraisal

967
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: values and historically red lined neighborhoods, being able to create

968
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: capital and liquidity for first time home buyers, and particularly

969
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: first time home buyers oftentimes or home buyers of color

970
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 5: inside of communities. And what has happened is this unemployment

971
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: rate has now dropped to historically low levels. We're now

972
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 5: watching economic growth and we're watching green shoots of new

973
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: industries that people are actually participating in. And you know

974
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: what I'm doing, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about

975
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: the fact that these policies matter, that us being able

976
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: to create pathways to work and wages and wealth is

977
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 5: actually the truest destination. And what we're talking about what

978
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 5: it means to have good policy. You've got to actually

979
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: talk about it and not and and and let the

980
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 5: data then speak for itself. But if if you're not

981
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: talking about it and you let other people define your narrative,

982
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: then yeah, of course things are horrible and it's all

983
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 5: the Democrats fault. But we're not gonna let that happen.

984
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: All right.

985
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: My last question, I saw you on Face the Nation

986
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 6: and I loved what you said. You said that Democrats

987
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 6: have to earn the blackmail vote. What does earning that

988
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 6: vote look like? It means going out and actually going

989
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 6: to seek and speak to it. You know, you're not

990
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: going to win this race by great commercials.

991
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 5: And they're effective though if they're great, if they're great,

992
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 5: but I mean, but that's but eventually people are just

993
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 5: going to hear this stuff so much as gonna get

994
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: drowned down. And it's like I will hear a commercial

995
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 5: that says one thing and then literally the next commercial

996
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: says something that's the absolute opposite.

997
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: And so if I'm not a person who's.

998
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 5: Really into this, what am I supposed to take away

999
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: from that?

1000
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: That's not how you're going to win this race, you know.

1001
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: And I think about it for our race where you know, I,

1002
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: you know, we did very very well with young.

1003
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: Voters and black voters and all kind of stuff when

1004
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: I ran for governor. But it was because I was black.

1005
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because I was you know, now one

1006
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: of the youngest governments in the country.

1007
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: It's because we went earned it.

1008
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: We actually went to communities and we talked about issues,

1009
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: and we talked about issues that matter, and we talked

1010
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: about in a real way we talked about why you know,

1011
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 5: when I'm speaking about wealth and wealth creation that I'm

1012
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: not What I'm talking about is do you have the

1013
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 5: ability to own more than you owe? Do you have

1014
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 5: the ability to pass something off to your children besides

1015
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 5: debt that it's the basic asset that you can have

1016
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: something in your life that can give your family a

1017
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: little bit of wiggle room. And you know, when we

1018
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: talk about housing, I talk about the fact that you know,

1019
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: I had to y'all know, I had some issues coming up,

1020
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: and my mother was trying to send me to this

1021
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: military school. You know, ever since I was like eight,

1022
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 5: and every year she threatened me, and every year I

1023
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 5: couldn't go. And it wasn't because she's a woman who

1024
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 5: makes false threats, because she does not make false threats.

1025
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: She couldn't afford it. And then finally, when I was

1026
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: eleven years old, sorry after eleven, and then twelve, and

1027
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 5: then when I was thirteen, fourteen years old, my mother

1028
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: was finally like, I can't do this, and I'm gonna send.

1029
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: You to this military school. But do you know how

1030
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: she was able to do it.

1031
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 5: She started asking people inside of her church if they

1032
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: could help, and people gave it a little bit where

1033
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 5: they could help whatever like that, but she was still

1034
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: thousands of dollars short. My grandparents, my grandfather was the

1035
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: first one in my family in my mom's side of

1036
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: the family, born in this country, born in South Carolina,

1037
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 5: and the klu Klux Klan ran them out, moved back

1038
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 5: to Jamaica, and much of my family said we will

1039
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 5: never come back to this country, which my family is not.

1040
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 5: Much of him in still in Jamaica.

1041
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: That's why you said ting earlier. Yes, yes, I thought

1042
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: he was drinking and dry.

1043
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: But but he did come back. Uh.

1044
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: And as he always said, you know, I say, you know,

1045
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 5: he had a deep Jamaican accent his entire life. And

1046
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 5: I think he's maybe the most patriotic American I've ever met.

1047
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: He loves this country, loved this country. My grandmother born

1048
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: in Cuba, raised in Jamaica, immigrated to this country. And

1049
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: when they came to this country, he was a minister,

1050
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: she was a school teacher, and they bought a little

1051
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 5: small home in the Bronx because that was their way

1052
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: of actually.

1053
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Owning a piece of this country.

1054
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 5: And when my mother needed help, and my mother needed

1055
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: a little extra money, they ended up taking money out

1056
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: of their home to then help to pay for that

1057
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: first year of school, which ended up changing the trajectory

1058
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: of my life.

1059
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: I bring that up for this reason. We're just asking.

1060
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 5: People to to give people a little bit of breathing room.

1061
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 5: We're just asking that we can just give people a

1062
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: little bit of hope, and it's a little something hold

1063
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 5: on to and be proud of. And so I think

1064
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: as we are talking about what does it mean to

1065
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: go earn the vote, You're not going to earn the

1066
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: vote by slogans. You're not going to earn the vote

1067
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: by commercials. You're gonna go earn the vote by looking

1068
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 5: people in the eye and saying not just why these

1069
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: policies are going to be better and beneficial for you.

1070
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: In your life, but it's.

1071
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 5: Gonna be really good to have a leader who actually

1072
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: sees you. It's gonna be really good to have a

1073
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 5: leader who actually believes in you, who's willing to fight

1074
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: for you, who when the doors are closed and the

1075
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: decisions are being made, that you can say, you know

1076
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: what she's thinking about me and my family when those

1077
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: doors are closed, and the decisions that she makes are

1078
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 5: going to be in the best censurest of not only now,

1079
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: but the best interests of the future.

1080
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: And so I just think right now we got a moment.

1081
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 5: Well, we got a whole lot of people who came

1082
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: before us who are looking at us and asking us,

1083
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 5: what are you going to do? Are you gonna take

1084
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: this moment seriously or not? And I think we got

1085
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 5: a whole lot of people who are gonna come after us,

1086
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: who are looking at us and saying, exhaust yourself because

1087
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: my future should matter to you that much. And that's

1088
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 5: why I think that we're gonna do what we gotta do,

1089
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 5: because that's the assignment.

1090
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: Hm.

1091
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: Well, Governor Wes Moore for President for twenty thirty two. Ladies,

1092
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: Governor Wes Moore, Ladies and gentlemen, we.

1093
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: Appreciate you for joining us.

1094
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: And you know, anytime you're in town, pull up on us.

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Speaker 4: You know, we don't like the zoom stuff, so you

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Speaker 4: got to pull up.

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Speaker 2: On this saying you're busy.

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Speaker 1: So you know, y'all should come. Y'all should come down

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Speaker 1: to Annapolis. You come down to Maryland.

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Speaker 2: We love it there. Are you related to Jess because

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Speaker 2: Jess last name?

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Speaker 1: But no, no I'm not.

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Speaker 5: But she's she's she's my cousin in my head. She's

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Speaker 5: my crazy I tell you what. Baltimore, we're prodigested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're prodigest.

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Speaker 1: She'll be back, so yeah, yeah, she roughs us, she

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Speaker 1: rops well.

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Speaker 4: It's Governor Wes Moore. It's the Breakfast Club, the Morning.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.