WEBVTT - Friday Flight: Leftover Turkey Edition! #1068

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a Friday Flight Leftover Turkey edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Joel's Favorite Leftovers. Was it last week that you were

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<v Speaker 2>just singing the praises of how we all need to

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<v Speaker 2>be eating more turkey? Turkey's underrated? Was it as good

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<v Speaker 2>Joel as you imagined it? I don't know, because we're

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<v Speaker 2>pre recording this, Mack, because of course we didn't record

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<v Speaker 2>on actual Thanksgiving Day. We'll tell you what with our

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<v Speaker 2>respective families doing all the things that you do and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't need, I'll tell you that that's a crime

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<v Speaker 2>against humanity. You know Fenra, the one of the regulatory bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, have you seen the ad for the girl

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<v Speaker 2>who is thinking about investing in meat based tofu company?

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up. It's basically calling attention to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we get distracted by and we think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe well we should invest in this company. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like her conscience. It's sort of like what's

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<v Speaker 2>the movie with the girlth of feelings and picks are

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh inside out? Yeah yeah, it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>inside out and she's got all these different versions of herself.

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<v Speaker 2>She's trying to convince herself to invest in this meat

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<v Speaker 2>based tofu company, or maybe it's a Tofu meat base.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But one of the questions was like

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<v Speaker 2>does this even check out? And they say that, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, maybe not. That's exactly what I thought of,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, that's when it comes investing. That's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things you need to consider is how logical is

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<v Speaker 2>it to begin with? But no, okay, so we are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this is a special episode. This is a special

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<v Speaker 2>Friday flight, and we wanted to call special attention basically

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<v Speaker 2>to thankfulness and some of the different things that listeners

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<v Speaker 2>in particular that they have been able to achieve with

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<v Speaker 2>their money, right, and not everyone that was at least

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<v Speaker 2>what I was really to hear. A lot of folks

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<v Speaker 2>shared just some of the listener money wins, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things they were able to accomplish over the year,

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<v Speaker 2>which we love to hear. But specifically, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a great episode after Thanksgiving as we are all

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<v Speaker 2>expressing some things to basically really focus in on the

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<v Speaker 2>different things that we're able to do in our lives

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<v Speaker 2>with the money that we've been able to set aside

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<v Speaker 2>with the fact that we no longer have this debt

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<v Speaker 2>that's hanging over our head. Right, what you're doing for

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<v Speaker 2>my life? What is it doing for you? And how

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<v Speaker 2>can I express gratitude? Because yeah, yeah, what are the larger,

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<v Speaker 2>more important things in life? Because money is just a tool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not And we don't want people to think about

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<v Speaker 2>how much money they have set aside in their nest

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<v Speaker 2>egg as like a score, like a high like a scoreboard. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it's less about that external keeping of score and more

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<v Speaker 2>for you what you're able to achieve with that money,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting it to real life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's less of like I'm thankful for twenty two percent

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<v Speaker 1>returns in my you know, in my four oh one

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<v Speaker 1>k or something like that. It is more where the

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<v Speaker 1>rubber meets the road, which is like, man, there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great ones that we're looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>sharing with you. We requested them on Facebook and on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and we just had a ton of great responses

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<v Speaker 1>from listeners. So who are grateful for the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>money has and smart money management has impacted their lives

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<v Speaker 1>and allowed them to live really the life they want

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<v Speaker 1>to live, not just like hey, I didn't a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to my net worth which feels seven digits.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, Yeah, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't want to say that that's dumb, because

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<v Speaker 1>tracking your net worth matters, and it is okay to

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<v Speaker 1>be grateful. Hey, my net worth grew this year. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. But there are other, I think ways

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<v Speaker 1>where where money hits the things that matter, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of listeners share stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes me think. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm most grateful for from this past year

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of money, is Matt that we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to take a big trunk of time off this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if listeners remember that. Yeah, we had

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<v Speaker 1>some replays there for like four weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were gone and it was nice. Not because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I don't like recording the podcast with you,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't like what we do. I love what

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<v Speaker 1>we do, but it was nice to get that break.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice to travel with the fam, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that money really touches. Our ability

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and not have flop sweat the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time be like, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you ever done that in your entire life, your

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<v Speaker 2>entire working career up until this past time.

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<v Speaker 1>I had taken one long trip. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>very very early in my career. It's funny, after I

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<v Speaker 1>left and I quit my job, they laid off a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people, like pretty quickly after anyway. But I

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<v Speaker 1>took like three months of three throw trip. You were

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<v Speaker 1>like twenties, like twenty two two, Okay, Yeah, Like that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The kind of thing you do very early on before

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<v Speaker 2>you have early responsibilities, before your prefrontal cortex. It's fully

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, Yeah, that's right. Pretty sure yours didn't fully

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<v Speaker 2>close up until you were twenty five. It was at

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<v Speaker 2>least twenty five. That was definitely the case with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but within your actual working career, when you

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<v Speaker 2>had responsibilities and goals and financial goals and things that

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<v Speaker 2>you were trying to achieve in your life. Right, Similarly,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never done something like that. And on a similar note,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say I'm thankful for our ability, not yes, that

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<v Speaker 2>was awesome over the summer, for sure, but even something

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<v Speaker 2>as simple as the week this episode comes out. We

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<v Speaker 2>recorded this last week, and the ability to take this

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<v Speaker 2>entire Thanksgiving week off man, So thankful for that, to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to spend time again with families. Kids aren't

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<v Speaker 2>in school, so to be able to spend some of

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<v Speaker 2>that quality time with even with them, not even doing

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<v Speaker 2>the Thanksgiving stuff, but even just some of the some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff sometimes you forget, right, like with daylight

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<v Speaker 2>savings having changed, Like I was just talking to my

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<v Speaker 2>little dude yesterday, It's like, man, it stinks because now

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<v Speaker 2>if there's something going on at school, by the time

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<v Speaker 2>you get home, it's already dark outside. We can't go

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<v Speaker 2>outside through the frisbee. That's something that we can do

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<v Speaker 2>on a Monday, on a Tuesday before traveling off to

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<v Speaker 2>see family. You know, we got a lot to be

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<v Speaker 2>thankful for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, all right, So shall we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>listener list you and to kick it off with Sarah?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sarah wrote in she said, I'm grateful for the

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<v Speaker 1>savings that I have while I'm furloughed by the government.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she wrote this, of course, while the government

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<v Speaker 1>was shut down like a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And a half ago or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sarah, I'm so glad you were prepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest government shut down in history. There was so much

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety map for so many folks over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the shutdown.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about being an inner traffic controller called into work

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<v Speaker 1>and not getting paid. That's gonna be frustrating, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would be. I'd have a tough time with that, And

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<v Speaker 1>especially at this point, given how our politicians tend to

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<v Speaker 1>act in these situations, there's just no other reasonable way forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think for government workers, or really for anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>We want all how the money listeners to be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>with liquid cash and a bare bones budget. Those two

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<v Speaker 1>things simultaneously could be a big help if tough times

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<v Speaker 1>come along. So Sarah, I'm so glad you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry and fret. And then that's what a great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to be thankful for.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And so I think what I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>here too, is that some listeners didn't say necessarily why

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<v Speaker 2>they are thankful for the things that they mentioned. But

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<v Speaker 2>like in her case, I'm sure it was stressed, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't frustration of not getting paid, but stress and

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<v Speaker 2>being afraid that, oh my gosh, we might have to

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<v Speaker 2>go into debt. Like we don't normally spend on our

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<v Speaker 2>credit cards, We normally don't carry a balance from month

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<v Speaker 2>to month. And this was an instance, with a shutdown

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<v Speaker 2>that literally would have actually rolled into that statement, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the ability to avoid that kind of stress, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh it maybe she would have been even tempted

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<v Speaker 2>to take on another job, and that's not something that

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<v Speaker 2>she had to do because of the fact she was

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<v Speaker 2>able to tap her emergency fund. Greg wrote getting to

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<v Speaker 2>do a monthly budget with my spouse number two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and five tonight. We started back in September of two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight and we haven't missed one yet. I specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>I really love this and I want to highlight the

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<v Speaker 2>fact a man after your own heart. Yes, well, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said that he gets to do this like getting

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<v Speaker 2>to do a monthly budget. What that tells me is

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<v Speaker 2>that he like, why is he pumped that he's able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that well? Because he gets to work as

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<v Speaker 2>a team with his wife. The fact that they have

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<v Speaker 2>a shared vision, the fact that they probably have shared goals,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be able to have such great communication like

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<v Speaker 2>that with your partner, that is amazing. Like, I'm thankful

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<v Speaker 2>for my wife that I'm able to do something really

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<v Speaker 2>similar where we are. It's a more collaborative sort of

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<v Speaker 2>approach to our finances as opposed to one feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>all they want to do is spend and the other

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<v Speaker 2>one feeling like all they want to do is save, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know that's the dynamic with some folks, but

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<v Speaker 2>being able to talk about that by planning out with

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<v Speaker 2>a budget, that's huge, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it also just shows that consistency is clutch, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and doing something with regularity over a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna get where you're trying to go. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like you're doing it halfway here and there

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, eh, maybe we'll meet this month, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we won't, you're just not going to have that focus

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<v Speaker 1>really matters. And so I'm sure that Greg, having done

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<v Speaker 1>this for seventeen years, that's gonna Yeah, that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Make a big difference in his ability to achieve those

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<v Speaker 2>goals with his spouse. Compounding budgeting returns, Yeah that's not

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<v Speaker 2>really a thing, but I'm sure that's what he's experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, exactly, all right. Carly said, we needed a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger house, but we lived in a high cost of

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<v Speaker 1>living area. So we sold our house, paid off what

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<v Speaker 1>little debt we had, and moved to another state where

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of living is cheaper, and we got our

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<v Speaker 1>dream fixer upper. We're debt free, and we cut our

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<v Speaker 1>insurance premiums by fifty percent by my husband taking a

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<v Speaker 1>different job.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, this is such a baller move, right, like doing

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<v Speaker 2>something that extreme. I mean, generally speaking, Americans are moving

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<v Speaker 2>for opportunity at a lower rate than the historical average.

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<v Speaker 2>But it can just be such a great way to

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<v Speaker 2>massively shift your personal finances. And in large part because

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes we think of just moving the money around the

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<v Speaker 2>margins as how it is we can save money and

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead. But I think it's worth considering something like this,

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<v Speaker 2>something more drastic, because it can be just so substantive

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<v Speaker 2>in allowing you to eradicate debt and just live the

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<v Speaker 2>life you want. So Carly way to be debt free

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<v Speaker 2>while still finding a way to own your own home too. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they were able to find a fixer upper,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something about creating the the kind of home that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to live in as well, which reading between

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<v Speaker 2>the lines here a little bit, but it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>she was able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just so easy to assume that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep doing things the way you've been doing them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, well, this is the city we live

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<v Speaker 1>in and this is the hand we've been dealt. And

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<v Speaker 1>Carly and her family are like, now we can make

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<v Speaker 1>a really big different decision. And guess what, They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less debt now they have they could probably

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot more optionality, I would assume in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming years for the work they want to do, if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to work at all, which is which is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well I wanted to mention this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Her stated thankfulness she was thankful for was the bigger house, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But why is she thankful for that bigger house? And again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm want to continue to maybe read into this more

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<v Speaker 2>than maybe I should. But I'm assuming maybe they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a growing family. Maybe they've got a bunch of kids

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids were shared bedrooms and or meet or

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<v Speaker 2>just even the ability to have a bigger place, to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to host your family, to host friends, the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to expand your social network. Some these are all

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<v Speaker 2>reasons to be able to move somewhere where you can

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<v Speaker 2>have a bigger house a little bit more. Maybe, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're not into having friends and family over. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're really they're hardcore entrepreneurs and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>both have offices in their own home and the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't know, launch things like that out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many different reasons why having a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>place could lead to a higher standard of living for someone. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>if the.

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<v Speaker 1>Choice was well, let's add onto the home where we

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<v Speaker 1>currently are, that could be incredibly expensive right in, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in a high cost of living area, you might be

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<v Speaker 1>in debt for that renovation for many, many, many years

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<v Speaker 1>to come, and that puts you in a precarious spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to keep working maybe more hours than

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<v Speaker 1>you want, to keep communing in a way that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't down with, and so making a complete lifestyle change

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<v Speaker 1>like this. It's not for everyone, but I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>Carly and her family did it. Sounds like it was

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Yeah, it's great for folks to hear

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<v Speaker 2>that something like that is possible. Actually, Brian over on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram he said something similar. He basically described how they

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<v Speaker 2>or he cut to the bone. He invested super aggressively

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<v Speaker 2>years of hard work and preparation in order to achieve

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<v Speaker 2>his dream of being a first time homeowner and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to read into this one. Maybe sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>just want to, oh need the tea leaves, Matt. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you just want to own your own place. Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be able to control your destiny a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more than you otherwise would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>if you were just renting. So and the props to you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about how renting is cheaper and almost

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere in the country right now than buying. But I

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<v Speaker 1>will say too, I had some friends recently who are

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<v Speaker 1>renters and their landlord was selling the house and they

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<v Speaker 1>had to leave, And so that is the downside of renting.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really really want to stay somewhere and put

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<v Speaker 1>down roots in the community, that is a good reason

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<v Speaker 1>to buy, even if it's not like the smartest money

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<v Speaker 1>move at this exact moment in time and people find

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<v Speaker 1>themselves there's that kind of clock the stick and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to own my own home and that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense too. So Brian, glad you were able to pull

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<v Speaker 1>that off.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to another one from Cassie in who said

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<v Speaker 1>my fiance needed a vehicle after his died. A looked

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<v Speaker 1>at used anew but the costs were used was minim

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<v Speaker 1>in savings, and I've been saving up for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was able to purchase a new twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five vehicle and pay it off in less than three months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm back to being debt free.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, Dang, I like it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like this is the exact opposite of like the

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<v Speaker 1>seven year loans that you and I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, what this points to is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that this is something that Cassian saved up for, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a goal of like they knew it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like they knew that this is something that was

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<v Speaker 2>on the horizon, right, And so there's such a difference

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<v Speaker 2>in getting this massive car loan that feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>completely out of control, that's just dragging you behind it

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<v Speaker 2>and you're just constantly trying to catch up to it,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to you being at the helm, like you

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<v Speaker 2>being at the wheel of the ship and deciding where

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<v Speaker 2>it is your dollars are going to go. Like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the difference here, and that's that's just what looking ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and having a proper plan allows you to do. Agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's totally a win. Something to be grateful for.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole said, we saved three hundred bucks a month for

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<v Speaker 1>three years for a trip to Finland.

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<v Speaker 2>We went on.

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<v Speaker 1>We flew business class, and we didn't worry about money

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<v Speaker 1>the entire trip, and that's fancy. Still never flown business

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<v Speaker 1>class someday, maybe before finding this podcast, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>just charged it and worried about it when we got home.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the life changing advice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is so similar to Cassie and right,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is kind of a although yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say this is very similar. It's knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that's on the horizon, preparing for it.

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<v Speaker 2>In one case, one might feel a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>necessary your transportation, but I'm also going to say that

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<v Speaker 2>a brand new way to get yourself around isn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote necessary thing. In the same way that someone

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<v Speaker 2>would say that, well, travel's not necessary, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>to Nicole, she might say, yeah, well now this is important.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing, like, whatever it is, if something's

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<v Speaker 2>important to you, make sure that you are socking the

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<v Speaker 2>dollars away to in order to achieve that goal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it contributes to the enjoyment of

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<v Speaker 1>the trip.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about planning ahead for a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>like looking forward to a trip for is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the We've talked to Scott Kay's about this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best parts of the trip. You get to

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<v Speaker 1>plan and think about it and like be like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up. That's how I feel about concerts, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a few concerts on the book for next

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<v Speaker 1>year and I'm like, can't wait for that thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so stoked. And the same thing is true of trips

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<v Speaker 1>and for planning, and then on the back end there

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<v Speaker 1>is just none of that angst or anxiety being like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, how much do we owe? How much do

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<v Speaker 2>we spend? Do we overdo it?

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that you have the money set aside is clutch

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to yeah, putting that on credit cards, getting

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with a twenty two percent interest rate on nothing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the trip costs me even more than financially. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>even it's gonna cost you even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Traveling with Scandinavia ain't cheap because I think even like

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<v Speaker 1>a happy meal, there's like twenty two dollars or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you think you think food prices are bad here in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, guys, you just hold on, Okay, Sarah wrote

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<v Speaker 1>cash following my daughter's first three semesters of college and

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<v Speaker 1>having more available in savings.

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<v Speaker 2>For upcoming semesters. I think this is awesome the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a goal of your Sarah, this was

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<v Speaker 2>something that you wanted to achieve, and I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>that you were able to achieve that. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing. And I think also simultaneously making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you are encouraging your daughter to maybe find ways

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<v Speaker 2>to lower the cost of school, right like applying for scholarships,

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<v Speaker 2>an on campus job, becoming an ra, different things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>These are already conversations I've already started with my seventh grader.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, Okay, how much does college cost? How do

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<v Speaker 2>scholarships work? They just give you that money. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how this works. You have to earn it,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, just give it to you for free.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I was like, sometimes there are scholarships

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<v Speaker 2>out there and you got to write an essay, but

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<v Speaker 2>if very few people know about it, there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of competition. So you could get that one

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<v Speaker 2>year after year. Just helping our kids to understand how

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<v Speaker 2>scholarships work. I think that's a good conversation to have.

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<v Speaker 2>I did work study when I was at school. I

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<v Speaker 2>was also an RA.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I was a good ra MAP, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was an RA and I still got like the

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars credit towards housing, So it was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was worth the effort. Although I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they liked having me or not, but I did it

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So Isabella on Instagram said, I'm thankful for

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<v Speaker 1>the good relationship we have with our landlord because they're

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<v Speaker 1>now allowing us to lease month to month without any

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<v Speaker 1>rent increase. This is going to allow us to have

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<v Speaker 1>patience when we begin searching to buy a home next year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to feel rushed and we can wait

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<v Speaker 1>for the right home when it comes. I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 1>we switched from a large apartment complex to a nice

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<v Speaker 1>little lady who owns a few properties.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about mom and pop landlords regularly and not

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<v Speaker 1>they are not all created equal. I want to stress

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<v Speaker 1>that just because it's a small local landlord does not

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<v Speaker 1>mean they are going to be awesome or easy to

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<v Speaker 1>work with or repair things in a timely manner. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you can find a good one, like think of

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a tenant, think of like, I'm interviewing this

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<v Speaker 1>person as much as they're interviewing me. Do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to live in their house? Do I think they're trustworthy?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think they're going to take care of things

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<v Speaker 1>that If not, I'm consider opting dude move somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>or thinking about a different place to live. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool that Isabella was able to have that

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<v Speaker 1>a personal enough relationship where she could ask for these

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<v Speaker 1>things and make it of a beneficial win win. She's

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<v Speaker 1>going to stay in the home longer, but it allows

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<v Speaker 1>her the opportunity to shop over a longer period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. That flexibility, man Like, that is hard. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to quantify that flexibility and the options that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to give Isabella, right, like the ability to be

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<v Speaker 2>patient while looking for a home that she wants to buy,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to feeling a bit rush and feeling like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well we're going to do this thing that it might

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<v Speaker 2>end up. You know, if you're a bit rush, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you don't make the best decision from a numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>not even not only numbers, but even from a lifestyle standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that just buys her more time to

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on rates because they might be dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>We have seen them drop, but we'll see if they

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<v Speaker 2>continue to. There's more opportunity out there for buyers to

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<v Speaker 2>get a deal if you continue to wait. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you can take some of the emotion out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And I think having some flexibility, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to rent months and months, that is one great way

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<v Speaker 2>to remove some of that emotion out of this decision.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no like ticking timeline where we got to make

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<v Speaker 1>it up. We got to be out of here by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the end of January. So if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a place that we have to sign another lease

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, that'd be so stressful. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you have kind of no fixed end timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>you really can be picky about the place you want

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<v Speaker 1>and wait for the right spot to open up. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting you more time to save in the meantime

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So Kesley done, Isabella, are we got more

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<v Speaker 1>of your grateful money wins this year? We get to

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<v Speaker 1>that and more right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, we are back for the break and

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<v Speaker 2>normally on a Friday flight. Right after that, right after

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<v Speaker 2>that break is when we get to the ludicrous headline

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, which we're not going to do this

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<v Speaker 2>week against the spirit of this episode. Yeah exactly. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we've only got good news for folks today, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>keep moving. Let's hear from Arden and this isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>voice minimum, I'm just gonna read it, but she wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thankful that I chose to pay off all my

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>student loans. All my classmates are still six figures in debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy cow. Okay, so maybe this is a ludicrous headline.

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<v Speaker 2>All my classmates are still six figures in debt, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I get to stay at home with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Best gift I ever gave myself. Dude, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>This like these are the bigger, more meaningful aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>life that we're trying to connect some of these smart

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<v Speaker 2>savvy money moves to right like this makes me because

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<v Speaker 2>it again, it's not about the money. It's about what

0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that money then allows you to do. How we are

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<v Speaker 2>able to wield our finances to achieve whatever ends it

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<v Speaker 2>is that we want to achieve, and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>not think of For me at least, I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>the Harvard Longitudinal Happiness Study. I think it's been going

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<v Speaker 2>on for eighty five years now, and the number one

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.360
<v Speaker 2>factor the researchers attribute to the people who are participating

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.640
<v Speaker 2>in that study that contributes to their health and their

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<v Speaker 2>happiness is the quality of their close relationships. And when

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<v Speaker 2>she says that she gets to stay at home with

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter, I mean, that's the you're hitting the nail

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<v Speaker 2>on the head when it comes to maybe if you

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<v Speaker 2>find a better best friend, you'll be happier. Matt Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's why our job is so it's so awesome, dude, Like,

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 2>like we have a very close relationship. The ability for

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 2>us to like somehow support our families and do something

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that we enjoy doing while also deepening our personal relationship

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 2>means we're going to be happy and healthy. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's right guaranteed. Otherwise I want my money back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think if you're looking at we often talk

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<v Speaker 1>about like productive money goals and things you want to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve when it comes to like saving and investing. But

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<v Speaker 1>then that's what I love about this episode is you

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>get to see people say, like I did grade at

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<v Speaker 1>that and now I have optionality and I have used

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<v Speaker 1>it to make a decision that is not productive.

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Actually it's stepping back from a financial standpoint. That's right.

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not productive, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Productive for like my happiness and living the life I

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<v Speaker 1>want to live. And that's like the balance we're always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to strike you and I as individuals, and then

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about constantly on the show as well, because

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>money touches all these areas of our life. Carl on

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Instagram he was similarly thankful, He said, because he made

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<v Speaker 1>incredible progress at his work. Not only is he maxing

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<v Speaker 1>out retirementcount so he's being very productive. He said, he

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<v Speaker 1>did that for the first time. But he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>manage his own hours and spend more time with his family,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's getting kick the best in both worlds this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hard to beat that. Sarah wrote, I'm thankful for

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the brand new implementation of universal early childcare in my

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 2>state of New Mexico. Not only does it relieve a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of financial stress for our family and countless others,

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 2>but it also prompted us to move our kiddo to

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<v Speaker 2>a daycare closer to home, which is saving us an

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 2>hour and a half of rush hour driving each day.

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<v Speaker 2>When when and man, this is first of all policy matters.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly impacts individuals on a personal level. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just cool. I'm really enjoying focusing on the

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 2>quality life aspect of our episode today. An hour and

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<v Speaker 2>a half every single day that you're not spending in

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the car and stressful bumper to bumper trap. I'm just assuming. Yeah,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I can hear the horns honking in the background of uh,

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 2>what is it of Sarah posting? And what does that do? Like?

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>That gives you more time to be able to sit,

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>not all of you in seats facing forward on the

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>highway and traffic, but at home, facing each other, engaging,

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>engaging with your kiddo, making meals together, eating healthier meals,

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 2>saving money by cooking as opposed to picking up some

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 2>fast casual to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I see one downside here, though, what's that less time

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to listen to podcasts? Oh that's true, Sarah. I hope

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you're still able to listen to the podcast you love.

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just kidding, Like, I would much rather ditch

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>your commute and listen to less stuff. So I'm glad

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that's been good for you. What a wonderful thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be thankful for. Yeah, Carrie said, I'm thankful for having

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a roommate so that I can save and put away

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>more money every month to bump up my emergency fund. Said,

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm also thankful for how to Money podcast. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to every one of them. Thank you, carriously appreciate that

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>she might listen to you to the show's forced to

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>listen to us. I don't know, but Carrie, thank you

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>for listening. And roommates can be clutch. One of my friends, Matt,

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>he lives in a four bedroom house with four total

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>people with one bathroom. He told me to save money.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Four guys in one house, one bathroom, and I was like, oh,

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.199
<v Speaker 1>that's tough. But then I went back to la the

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. I think he's in his late twenties. Okay, oh,

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>late twenties, late twenties. Yeah, yeah, but that was about

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the time I was getting tired of that sort of

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>living situation. But at that sacrifice, it means more monthly margin,

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it means allowing you to be able to make more

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.239
<v Speaker 1>progress with your money goals. Carry I just want to say,

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>keep beef enough that E fund and Yeah, live in

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the roommate life, especially if you have good ones, can

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>be a wonderful thing and then maybe someday you can

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>get out of it. But you're gonna have the savings

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that when you're ready.

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a win win, right, because not only are

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>you attacking some of these that is allowing you to

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>attack some of these other financial goals that you undoubtedly have,

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>but it's putting you in social contact with other people.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>When our society today we are becoming more adamized and jolistic,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and again pointing to the fact that hopefully these are,

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 2>like Joel said, good roommates and you're not like fighting

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 2>about I don't know who left the toilet seat up

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>or I don't know.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I've had someone both. Back in my day, I had

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>had some good ones. I had some not some good ones. Yeah,

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know who you are. If you're listening.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Do any of your previous roommates listen to the podcast.

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but we'll find out. I don't know.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know either. I stay in decent touch with them,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>but we don't often talk about the podcast. Listen to

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>each other podcast. Yeah, but so I'm just pointing out

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that Carrie, this is from a social standpoint social health,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 2>this is a win as well. But you know, I

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>want to encourage folks out there as well. The reason

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 2>I asked about the age thing is because, Yeah, like

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>you said, this typically like an early twenties, mid twenties

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>sort of move. I had friends who were married couples

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 2>who chose to or one couple said well, we're going

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>to buy this house. It's gonna be a bit tight,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and they had another couple friend of theirs, and this

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>family or the couple who was buying the house knew

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 2>that they were most definitely gonna have kids. They do

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of kids. They have six kids. But

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>like they sort of got the house that they knew

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>that they would be able to grow into, and which

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 2>also meant that mortgage payment early on was maybe a

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>little bit tighter. It constrained their budget a bit more

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 2>than they would have liked to have seen. And so

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>they brought on another couple and they were able to

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 2>successfully coexist to live together in a way where they

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>had their privacy. They're on sort of separate sides of

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>the house. Perhaps they would take turns cooking. It's I

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It makes me think of friends a little bit,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>where it's just sort of like we're growing up, but

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>we're still kind of kids. I like that. I like

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 2>unique living situations. I think that's super cool man.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And you can find a way to love it, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for a certain period of time, even if it's

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>not like that's what I want to do forever.

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Give it a shot. Yeah, yeah, it's worth giving a shot.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't count on that working out if that is

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 2>the only way that you can afford a house like that.

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>When I bought my first house, I had a roommate

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>in it. I could afford the mortgage by myself. I

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to, like, I want to be able to

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>save more money, and so the roommate was a clutch

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>move to help me like build up you know, that

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>beef up my savings that I had to plait on

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the down payment.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That was Yeah, that was more of the whip cream,

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was more of the cherry on top as opposed to, no,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>this is necessary in order for this to work. But yeah,

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that's a super sort of frugal approach. And I think

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>those frugal habits are going to give Carrie more options

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.479
<v Speaker 2>in the future as well. I think that's actually what

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>so a user on Instagram Frugal Family Focus. I think

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>that's what she was getting at when she listed all

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the sacrifices that she made in her younger years. So

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 2>she she basically she was like, I'm thankful for twenty

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one year old me who cut Internet at home in

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>order to say or in order to pay more on

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>my student loans. I'm thankful for twenty eight year old

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>me for being able to have a baby for free

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>because I understood the ins and outs of my health insurance.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm thankful for thirty five year old me who paid

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 2>cash for a used car even though I had a

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>great salary and the ability to buy brand new all

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>for the ability to have more options and to call

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>your own shots later in life.

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Those are all real sacrifices, yes, meaningful sacrifices that most

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>people take. For cutting Internet, like who does that?

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't have internet? That is just a normal

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>necessity of human life, And it's like is it and

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>is that what your goal is? And especially with smartphones now,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't need home to pay for both the

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>smartphone service and home internet service if you have a

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>decent hotspot or something like that. Yeah, like those are

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>questions that are worth considering. And what else is it

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>allowing you to do with the money that you save

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 1>if you choose to make a different decision.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>It's good to be weird in this way. And that's

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>like maybe that's another Should weird be synonymous synonymous with frugal, right,

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>because like if it's something that everyone does, then it's like,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't call it frugal. Yeah, but frugality there's a

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 2>connotation there of it being weird, the fact that someone

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>does something in order to save money. But yeah, I

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's good to be weird.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Why they made TV shows about coupon clipping moms and

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that because it was weird.

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I like that crowd. You know.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>It makes you think of my conversation with Hope from

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Under the Media not too long ago on the podcast

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>that is Well Worth listening to never made more than

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>forty thousand dollars on average over the course of decades,

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and people would be like, that's weird. But she's like

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>so open to sharing the weirdness, and I love it.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline said, we are a two income home living off

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of one income. Amazing, also rare, and also kind of weird.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to see more folks attempting this though, because like,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>if you start handling money like this when you get married,

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>even though it's tough, it's so tough to live on

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>just one income, it can allow you to make choices

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that other couples can't because they're totally dependent on both incomes,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and at some point, through diligent investing of a whole salary,

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>neither of.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>You will need to work. Jacqueline.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So, I think this is so admirable, and I know

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>not everyone can do it, but what a cool goal

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to strive for, and what a way to really set

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself up for success by being able to thrust big

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>big bucks towards other money, say, and investing goals.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>That you have. Heck yeah, it reminds me of a

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>white coat investor of living gosh, what is it basically

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>living like a resident? Living like a resident, because oftentimes

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>like they're no longer a resident, because when you're a resident,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that's when you're doing all the weird frugal roommate stuff.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 2>That kind of sounds weird when I say that, Actually

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>but like like you you're officially a doctor and you're

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>starting to rake in the money and then like, no,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I need to live like one like they feel like

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>they've sacrificed for so long and then they immediately take out,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, just a massive car note, spend way more

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>than they ever have as opposed to holding if you

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>can just hold off on that a little bit more

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and not get carried away essentially with all the different payments,

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>where you're constantly behind the wave as opposed to just

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>riding that wave right right, that's a good way to

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>put it. You want that interest to be working for you,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>not to where it feels like you're constantly trying to

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to catch up to it. Gary, he wrote, I'm

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>thankful to have a wife that has the same values

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and vision when it comes to experience, experiences and personal finance.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>We just paid off our mortgage while at the same

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 2>time prioritizing experiences and family along the way. We have

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 2>no regrets on spending on what's important to us, ignoring

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the Joneses and media. Did we already get to This

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is similar to is it Greg? Similar to Greg as

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>far as like thankful for his wife man, but well,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I love.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>To like ignoring everything else. This is kind of what

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>we're getting at with living a weirder life, like being

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>okay with being different, and it just feels like, well,

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone else is on social media, I guess I should be.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Or everyone else is buying a new car, like a

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars new car. I guess that's normal and

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I should partake. And it's like, no question the normal

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>things that people are doing, because those normal choices are

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the things that lead to copious amounts of debt, and

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that why people are leading incredibly stressed out lives. So

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>if you can be abnormal, ignore what Gary said, the

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Joneses and the media's right, and love a different life,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a beautiful way to go.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Dude. That's the worst thing about social media, because literally

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the social media is the Joneses on media, right. And

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>so like the fact that because before in this I

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>don't want to turn into a giant like social media critique,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>but before like you were just surrounded by the people

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>that you were surrounded by, like the people who you

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>saw at work, which okay, yeah, these are folks that

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 2>probably make similar amounts of money that you do, or

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you're surrounded by your neighbors, right, these are oh, these

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>are all houses that are about built around the same

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 2>part of the century. They all cost about the same amount.

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>We tend to run in circles where we're surrounded by

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>folks that have, you know, for the more or less

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the same amount of income is as us. That's not

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the case with social media, right, Like, you might be

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>following somebody who lives like across the country, who like

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>goes to Lake Tahoe every weekend or something. It's just

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like that's a totally different lifestyle and you have no

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>idea what their actual finances look like if you were

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to peel you know, pull back the cover.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>We talked about a while back, the influencers who rent

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like a seat on a private plane that's sitting on

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a tarmac so they can take selfies stupid to make

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it look like they're living a lot of self that

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not actually living. They're not actually going anywhere on

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>that plane. But you certainly feel left out when you

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>see their instapic and it feels like they're on some

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>epic vacation that they didn't actually take.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>And so you're right, man, I think it's like the

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>saddest thing, right, Like you might be able to fool

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>your followers, but like there's no way. I don't know.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you are fooling yourself into thinking that you've got

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>it made, but like you're not actually on that flight,

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and that there's so much self delusion that's picked into that.

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Even just seeing the pictures of like Jeff Bezos on

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>his yacht or something like that, like we just didn't

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>We weren't as aware of what the wealthy elites were

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>up to, and now we can be hyper aware because

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>there's like people covering that beat on social media, and

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not saying that, like whatever your political beliefs is,

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just focusing less on those people is probably a better

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>thing for your own sanity and personal health.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Everyone likes to keep up with the Bezos and the

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>elon angeel actually was it was a couple of weeks

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>ago Blue Origin landed its first reusable rock. Was that true?

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>It landed like on the barge in the middle of

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the ocean. I don't know. All I saw. Was it

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>so happy that that happened, because I feel like finally

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>caught up. It's just some competition for SpaceX, Like I

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Elon kind of got distracted by politics this

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>year and kind of went off the deep end. So

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>his ability to get back to doing what he does best,

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>which is being innovative and a forward thinker. I think

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing for the world.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, give counter or do you like Elon being

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>involved in politics. I just think that the mission to

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Mars and the rich guys with rockets, it doesn't do

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>it for me. I think it could lead to other

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>advances that could benefit that's probably society. It's not that

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to live on Mars. I'm like, how bad

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>would it have to get here, on this beautiful blue

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>marble out in the middle of the galaxy for me

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to want to move to this cold oxygen lists I

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sare on waste land of the planet. I saw the

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Martian I know what it's like. There's terrible, That's right.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like the scariest thing ever. Like I'm interested, one

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>thing goes wrong and you're you're dead, you know, like

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to hear yeah, a lot of things have

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to go wrong.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Before that's true, before you're dead. It makes me think

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>about like a yeah, or just one thing. So people

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>who swim this is such a weird tangent. But people

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>who swim. I've always been like, you know, I'm not

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>really into water sports because like you hit your head

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>on something and then you're underwater and it's a bad thing.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Whereas if you, let's say your mountain biking, you hit

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>your head right, like you crash into a tree. Yeah,

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>you get knocked out. Okay, you're just laying there on

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 2>your on the trail. You're not like instantly drowning. That's

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the thing about water sports, your chance of survival. Yeah, exactly,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 2>That's how I think. So there's no surprise I'm not

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>super interested in moving to Mars.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Literally, listen to an interview this week with someone and

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll get back to a problem who dove head first

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>in the water and ended up paralyzed a quadriplegic for

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>her entire life. An inspiring conversation. Maybe we'll think to

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. But it's one of those things

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>like you're right, yeah, water sports they can not be great.

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, while we're on a tangent, maybe we'll hit

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>up a few ads. We'll be right back with more

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of your thankfulness right after this.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back. We'll make sure to not

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>take any more tangents any We want to respect the

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 2>listener's time, and they're here to hear about how folks

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 2>are thankful and not about rich boys in their rockets. Yes,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>although you got satellites being launched, there's an actual tangible

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 2>good that's happening. Also taking payloads to space man. That's yeah,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>that's important to that's true. Okay, let's get back to it.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 2>So space lasers and stuff.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Rob says, thanks to the wisdom of the show, I

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>broke up with Edward Jones and moved to Schwab because

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of my strict savings for the past few years. I

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>retired in July at fifty five, and I learned from

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>How to Money that I can invest my HSA money

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and I put it in boot. Finally, I'm going to

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>hire a fiduciary who was wrecked amended by wealth Ramp

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>after hearing Joel's interview with Pam. Oh my goodness, Rob

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>did it all this year.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So well done. Rob. You're saving money.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 1>You're don't have to work anymore because you've clawed back

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>some of those insane fees that you were paying to

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the person who is managing your money. You've put a

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>ton of hard work into making retirement at fifty five

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a reality.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>So well done. And by the way, for others out

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 2>there who are thinking, gosh, it is time for us

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to look at chatting with an advisor. Go to howtmoney

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>dot com forward slash advisor because we have partnered with

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>wealth Ramp, which offers access to advisors who have been

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 2>very well vetted. These are fee only fiduciaries. And yeah,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 2>it's worth checking out. On a related retirement note, Joel there,

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>here's one from Peter who wrote learning to Spend Money

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 2>as I move into retirement thirteenth month of three days

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a week, fully remote, and I've got eleven more to go. Man,

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that you are testing out retirement ahead of time.

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>You're testing the waters the think going from just all

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to nothing on the on the workfront, it can be

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a really hard, sort of whiplashy like adjustment. And man,

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of early retirees out there who

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they can't wait to get another job. And

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because they haven't thought what it would

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>be like to.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Enter into retirement without having maybe a purpose. Three months in,

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like freaking out.

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I can get my old job back and

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't get as good of a job. Should I

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>just like go drive for Uber on the side, just

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>because they miss interpersonal contact and so that yeah, I

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>lost their community.

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Who maybe they Yeah they formed that around yeah, around work.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I like testing it out and I like winding it

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>down slowly instead of going from all to nothing. So

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's shows a lot of wisdom on Peter's part.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, okay, so we're specifically talking about easing into retirement,

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 2>but let's not forget So the first thing he said

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was learning to spend money as I move into retirement.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to read between the lines there a

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 2>little bit and address the fact that it can be

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>really weird to go. Maybe we've used weird too much.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>It can be a jolt to go from save safe, save, invest, invest,

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>invest your entire life to now, oh man, getting into retirement.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm making less money now, or maybe I'm fully in retirement.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>What does it look like to draw down on those investments.

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>There's like a total shift.

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>If it's a total uh, this is with your brain

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 1>reverse uh course of course changed.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like mirror mode in Mario kart right,

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 2>all it's literally backwards. Oh my gosh, it feels completely

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>like you are in bizarro bizarro world.

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>It's foreign, and it's the opposite of what you've been

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>told for many decades, and then the opposite of the

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>accult behavior you've been exhibiting for any decade.

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>But it's so important to do because if you well,

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>first of all, hopefully you weren't neglecting the most important

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>thing relationships along the way. But let's just say, if

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't spend this money while you are in retirement,

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be left with a whole lot of

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>regret at the end of your life, right, because you're

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>you're saying potentially, I mean, using it effectively, right, So yeah,

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you're you're I mean, And that's just do you get

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 2>to a ripe old age where you're able to look

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>back on I don't know, I don't want to. I

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go too negative here, but learning to

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 2>spend your money as you enter into retirement you obviously

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>don't want to get get to spending with it, but

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it's important to lay out a plan and how it

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>is that you want to live those those later decades.

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>At all I know is nobody gets a prize for

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>having the most money in their four one k when

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they die, Like that is not that that is not

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a contest that I want to win. That's that's usually

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to me. Some of those are some of the saddest headlines.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So I love that Peter is kind of working through that,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to spend as he moves into retirement.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>This is the perfect time to start really thinking about

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>not just draw down strategy, but finding ways to actually

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 1>be able to use the assets that you've built up

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to live the life that you're They would they would

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>bring joy.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Toy on that note says, I'm thankful for being

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>able to balance saving aggressively for retirement while still living

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>my life now, which is the goal.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Like this is the the craft beerquivalent thing that we

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about all the time, right, It is yes, saving aggressively,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It is yes thinking about your future, buying optionality with

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the savings and investments that you're making, but also being

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>able to enjoy your life now and prioritizing the things

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that matter and so many of those things don't have

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to be terribly expensive. But ye, you want balance all

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the way through. That's the way I think about it, Matt.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it requires front loading the sacrifice a bit on

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the front end, but yeah, the goal is to be

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>able to do both simultaneously. It's not always easy, but

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think it's like a pendulum, its swinging right.

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're a little bit further in one direction than

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 1>the other, but always kind of trying to push back

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>towards that center.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Is a good way to think about it. Yeah, and

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>typically over time you are able to kind of find

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 2>more of that balance. Chelsea simply wrote buying a car

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>with no loan, which I love because and she didn't

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>say why or why she's thinking for that, but of

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 2>course it means that she is going to be able

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to put more towards retirement. She's going to have more

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 2>margin in her life, more savings, which are all very boring.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 2>So some fun things no car debt hanging over your head.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Some fun things though, like the ability to go on

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>a vacation, to be able to go out with your friends,

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to be able to invest in relationships to those who

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>matter the most around you, Like these are all amazing

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 2>reasons to not have a car payment. Yeah, so I'm

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 2>super proud of you, Chelsea.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>All Right, let's move on to Nina, who says, twenty

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty five was a big year for us. We sold

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>our home for more than double what we paid, and

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>we moved closer to family before having our first child

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>together in September.

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I love it. What can you say about that besides congratulations?

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.919
<v Speaker 2>We want a blessing. How awesome, But it feels good

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 2>to sell your home for a lot more than you paid,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 2>but then moving closer to family when you start having

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>kids like that's uh, she's playing like three D chess

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>right there, because that's crazy, like a fox. Well, and

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you are. I mean, it's not all about money, but

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be able to save some money some

0:42:56.080 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 2>free babysitting out there. And this is a assuming you

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 2>just have one kid like this, there's multiples here.

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>We know what Now what high school kiddo's charge for babysitting?

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>And it ain't cheap.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not cheap.

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think a lot of those kids are

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>charging at least fifteen summer charging twenty bucks an hour.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And so if you live close enough to folks, we're

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>not paying that to write our eldest daughter.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>When she's babysitting her siblings. Well, I'll tell you that.

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what's nice.

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>You and I have finally gotten to the point where

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>our oldest can watch for a whole lot less than that,

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but for a while. Then when they're young, like you

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 1>don't have that luxury, so having your parents close by.

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh the other thing on babysitting too, which we've mentioned

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show before, maat, but it's been a while,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>swapping with somebodies of yours and so like that's what

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>we did for how many years do we do the

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>date night swap?

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.959
<v Speaker 2>Like almost a decade in eleven years? Yeah, yeah, so.

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Swapping back and forth where you'd come over to my

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>house after we put the kids down in it's a

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>way to go out. Yeah, you're paying for the meal

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>or the movie whatever you're doing, but you're at least

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 1>not paying for babysitting on top of it.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Heck, yeah, how much how much are you paying? Selling?

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>By the way, per hour? We have a set rate,

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.479
<v Speaker 1>No we don't. It's usually depends and athough we should

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>probably be a.

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Little more formal about that. Six bucks an hour. That's

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 2>what we do. That sounds reasonable. Yeah, that's what I've get.

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>So basically, like a solid date night she's basically earning

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 2>like a twenty and so I also did the mouth

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 2>on that. I'm like, okay, wait a minute, holy col

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.439
<v Speaker 2>how many how much money are we gonna end up paying?

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a thousand bucks. It's about one thousand bucks a

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>year just in babysitting from us. Good for her, which

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's big enough to make a serious

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 2>impact on her ability to be able to steward that

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>money well and figure out what it is that she

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 2>wants to buy. But it's not so much that it

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 2>feels like a ridiculous amount of money out of our piet.

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a lot of money, but that's assuming

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.959
<v Speaker 2>we go on a date night at least once a week,

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the for the entire year. But we'll

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>see an anonymous user posted grateful for my wife and

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>new house that I just bought and our little bundle

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 2>of joy due in May able to afford due to

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 2>my new rays at work. Dude, again, there's a lot

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>of thanks thankfulness here, coming back to family and some

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 2>of these things that her a bit more in life.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So I love that. Actually. On the note of babies

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 2>and growing your family, John Over on Instagram, he said

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>that they are expecting their baby girl in the spring

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 2>as well. They didn't go into debt, they didn't once

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>touch their six month emergency fund. They even saved a

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 2>little bit for a retirement, not nearly, not quickly as

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>they not as much as they were prior to going

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>all in on in Vitro. So they were doing this

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is not cheap. Ivf man so expensive. But they were

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>able to do that and grow their family without negatively

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 2>impacting their finances in a serious way.

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that so cool? Yeah, that's yeah, I'm super pumped

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for you, John. I'll share al win from my older

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>sister who just moved. They bought a house kind of

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 1>further out in the country. They wanted some acres and

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>she got a raise like simultaneous with this move, and

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>so it's just like there's that Oh man, it's just

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>freed up. We're making a big decision. And it's nice

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to be like have extra income when you're taking on,

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're biting off a new financial responsibilities.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>So sounds like yeah and.

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a raise of work is just such allows people

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>to then more income coming in make smart moves.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Jasmine wrote, I'm grateful that I was able to pick

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>up four classes at two universities as an adjunct next semester.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That would give my income a big bump to help

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>afford college tuition for my oldest kid who's heading off

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to college in August.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Big steps.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nicely done, Professor Jasmine.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm just imagining.

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Jasmine over here, Matt wearing like a tweed coat with

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the elbow patches and maybe even a pipe hanging out

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of her mouth.

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Yeah, professor, still do that or is

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>that just an antiquated Nope, Nope, they do in the

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 2>classical education world. Okay, that's awesome. I love that you're

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>wanting to make college more affordable for your sounds like

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>your first kid who's going off to college, And man,

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that's such a tough nut to crack. As I think about, like,

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>we're not that far from that, Like as we were

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just talking about babysitting money. When I did the math,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I like I did it often to the teenage yeers,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>and that's like five years yeah, of doing that, and

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to figure out like the balance to

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 2>strike between wanting to set them up financially, because on one hand,

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to remove like as many of the financial

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 2>obstacles from their path as possible. But is that more

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>important or is it more important to prepare them to

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 2>be able to handle not only the financial obstacles in

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>their life, but all the obstacles that are gonna come

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 2>their way as they venture off into adulthood. And that's

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 2>something that Yeah, stay tuned, folks, because we don't have

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that one figured out, to be honest, Like I tend

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 2>to waffle. I tend to go back and forth where

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 2>we're with us as what we're learning. Yeah, because I

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 2>tend to want to say set more aside at points

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 2>in the year, but then at other points in the year,

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, well, I don't it's not even necessary. And

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>are they even gonna go off to higher education? Maybe

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know, Like it's tough to know

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>what the future holds. So yeah, you kind of have

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 2>to balance all those priorities. It is.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad that Jasmine was able to pick up

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>those additional classes so that she can help.

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.240
<v Speaker 2>At two universities. Yeah, it's a little tougher to bounce

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>back and forth like that.

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right, it is, Yeah, probably, But it sounds like

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Jasmine is the kind of person who can do it all.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So which is what's really neat Matt. I just I

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>love celebrating money wins with listeners. I think it is yeah,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like and just to be like, hey, not even just

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>be like I crushed it this year, but be like, man,

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fortunate, so blessed, and there's just a lot

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to really be thankful for. These are all great things.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Like people, there's a lot of intentionality and hard work

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 1>behind a lot behind a lot of things that we're

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>shared on today's episode. But also I think just this

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>recognition that, like, there are all sorts of things that

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>could have happened to us and that could have prevented

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 1>us from reaching some of these goals, so we should

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>be thankful at the same time while also kind of

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 1>working hard to achieve those things.

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Heck. Yeah, Well, normally after a long hour longer episode

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>like this, we are talking about our beer, but I

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think we were actually even planning planning we're going

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that long like we have on this episode. But we

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 2>hope everyone who's listening has enjoyed maybe a quick little

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>break away from your family, and I'll get back in there,

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>get back in the throng.

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I think turkey is almost better the next day because

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you got to put it on like a role right,

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm really looking forward.

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 2>To leftovers as you can smear some of that cranberry

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>sauce on there to to juice it up a little

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.760
<v Speaker 2>bit thing, right, like dip it in some gravy.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Even actual favorite a little bit of aju is what's

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>your absolute favorite.

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Thing that you don't Thanksgiving? I mean, honestly, is like

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>a smoke turkey dipped in some nice gravy. Like it's

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 2>tough to beat that little little best of both worlds.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 2>One of my daughters has gotten into baking recently, though,

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and we were planning on her baking her famous lemon pie.

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 2>She made it over the summer fourth of July and

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 2>we couldn't believe how stinking good it was, so there

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 2>have been multiple votes to get her to even though

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 2>a lemon pie isn't like a really it does sound

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>more like a summer it does a pie right like

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the fall pies. And we're like, you got your pumpkins,

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you got your pecan or the peacans like they say

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:49.879
<v Speaker 2>down in the South. But so I don't know, we'll

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 2>see how the lemon feels in the fall, but I'm

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>certainly looking forward to that too. Yeah, what about you? Sorry, Yeah,

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 2>you love mashed potatoes, that's your favorite side. Yeah? Probably

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>you smush it down with the supers sprout, create the

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.359
<v Speaker 2>pool with the Gravyes and Gravey in there. Classic. I mean,

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I can, We'll flat down at no time. I love

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 2>creating a little volcano as a kid.

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>We hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and we'll see

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you back here with a fresh ask count of money episode.

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Yep, on Monday, you know it. So until next time,

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 2>best Friends Out and best Friends Out.