WEBVTT - The Cabin in the Woods

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<v Speaker 1>School of humans. These it's not just the victim and

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<v Speaker 1>the victim's family. It's the worst for them, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>also the people who are accused, and it's never cleared

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other, really, and so they get

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<v Speaker 1>whispered about in town and just the crazy rumors hurt

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. When there's no justice done, it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts a lot of people. It hurts the whole town.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of these people. Their children may

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<v Speaker 1>be getting to that age, their kids might be sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>or even older, and so that's got to be hard

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw something like that at a party and

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<v Speaker 1>you never told anyone. And it's interesting because I could

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<v Speaker 1>completely understand being sixteen years old. You're terrified, you're terrified

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<v Speaker 1>of getting in trouble for drinking and you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's very different from thirty years later. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>kids who are older, like you know. It's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the end of winter and icicles are frozen on

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<v Speaker 1>the gutters of my dad's house in Mountain View. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the top floor in the war room, and in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me are two boxes. There's a small brown

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<v Speaker 1>one that looks like an oversized briefcase and a huge

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<v Speaker 1>plastic blue one. These hopefully hold the clues to what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Janie Ward on September ninth, nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything in these boxes was collected by Janie's dad, Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>He died last summer, but I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him every single day. Weird how things will

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<v Speaker 1>hit you emotionally. You're really you know, you're okay for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and then you see something. The autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>photos I saw were war horrific, something that no family,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, father should ever have to see. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you'd see things like all of Ron's correspondence with his attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>me and with the state. And Ron had obviously googled

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<v Speaker 1>how to write a business letter and what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>how to get a notary, how to get a notarized statement.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he really every single thing in there was

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<v Speaker 1>documented by him, and you could just see how meticulous

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<v Speaker 1>he was and how hard he worked, and right up

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<v Speaker 1>until the end, he had his to do list. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we did with Rebecca's case, In order to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what really happened to Jane, we need to focus on victimology.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to try to reconstruct what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in her life. And the days and the hours leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to her death, what really happened at that party?

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<v Speaker 1>And thirty years later, why don't we know the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about how Janie died. I'm Catherine Townsend and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Gone. So yeah, I'm keeping him in the order

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<v Speaker 1>Ron had them in, But then I'm also separable going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the week leading up to the party on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>September ninth, nineteen eighty nine. I'm keeping him the same

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<v Speaker 1>folders that Ron had them in, and he was very methodical,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to mess that up, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>put a few aside I think we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with first that are contradictory. But anyway, we're

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<v Speaker 1>using witness statements from the Arkansas State Police case file.

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<v Speaker 1>The ASP took charge of Jane's case at the request

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<v Speaker 1>of Sircy County Sheriff Kent Griggs. The sheriff had a

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<v Speaker 1>history with Ron and he wanted to avoid any suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>of impropriety. Arkansas State Police investigator Bill Beach got the call,

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<v Speaker 1>he drove to Marshall and started his investigation. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are also contradictory things about out where Janie was. They

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<v Speaker 1>call her Olivia in a lot of the statements because

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<v Speaker 1>her name's Olivia Jane, But I mean most of these

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<v Speaker 1>witness statements spend more time talking about the kegs and

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<v Speaker 1>who collected money at school during the party and who

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<v Speaker 1>was playing the party. By that Wednesday, everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>junior class at Marshall High School is buzzing about a party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's being thrown by one of Janie's cousins, Jamie Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>Since their names are so similar, will refer to him

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<v Speaker 1>as Jay from this point on. Jay lived at a

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<v Speaker 1>cabin in the woods off of unpaved Zach Road. The

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<v Speaker 1>cabin was owned by Jay's father, Steve Ward. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>Jay is only sixteen, his parents let him live in

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin by himself so he could keep going to

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall High School. Jane's family lived pretty far away from

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Marshall. Janie's mom, Mona, told Bill Beach that it

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<v Speaker 1>was not unusual for Janie to spend the night with

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<v Speaker 1>friends on the weekend. On most Fridays, Jane rode the

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<v Speaker 1>school bus home and then a friend would pick her

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<v Speaker 1>up to go back to downtown Marshall. Ron told Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Beach that the last time he saw his daughter was

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<v Speaker 1>the morning of Friday, September eighth, a day before the party.

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<v Speaker 1>He told Beach that she left home wearing a pin

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<v Speaker 1>striped shirt and stonewashed jeans. We know that Janie was

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<v Speaker 1>excited about the party from an interview her friend Leslie

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<v Speaker 1>did with Bill Beach. It's been an interview of Leslie,

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<v Speaker 1>student died in tenth grade approximately four twenty FM. Leslie

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<v Speaker 1>says Janie spent the night with her on the Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night before the party. Where was last night time? The

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<v Speaker 1>last time Leslie saw Janie was at around four thirty

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<v Speaker 1>pm on Saturday, finish fir on linked she said shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie just said that Jane borrowed a shirt from her.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you find out which one she bought? Say?

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<v Speaker 1>After it happened. She tells Beach that she discovered her

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<v Speaker 1>missing shirt day after Janie died when she went through

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<v Speaker 1>her drawer to see which one of her shirts was missing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was her deaf leopard one. So we know where

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<v Speaker 1>the shirt came from, but we still don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>she could have been wearing one shirt at the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>home in Marshall and then a different one at the

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<v Speaker 1>crime lab in Little Rock. Leslie also says Janie told

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<v Speaker 1>her she was going to stash her clothes at the

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<v Speaker 1>pool hall so that she could pick them up after

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<v Speaker 1>the party. Was there anything in the time that she's

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<v Speaker 1>fad with you last year it was saying to be

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<v Speaker 1>bothering her INtime that she's concerned bat Nothing as far

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<v Speaker 1>as well she's trying to glory kiss I ran her

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<v Speaker 1>financial tumble. Yes, she get into the air. While Jane's

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<v Speaker 1>at Leslie's house fixing her hair, Jay is at his

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<v Speaker 1>house getting ready for the party. He's setting up kegs

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<v Speaker 1>on the front porch. He's also preparing the PGA pine bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>which stands for pure grain alcohol. He'd taken up money

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<v Speaker 1>at school and he collected around one hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow will be a swarm statement of Jamie Ward. Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I oil seventeen? Is that right? When was the

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol purchase for the party? In my hum? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got it, Jamie. I'd I say that, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're under oath, you're not a suspect. Jay is reluctant

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<v Speaker 1>to share who bought the alcohol for the kids at

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<v Speaker 1>the party, but Beach has already discovered it was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two year old Gary Don, did you go with Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Shnod's Big Flat? Gary Don is a graduate of Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>High School, and it's still friendly with the students there.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you when we started that I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people since I talked to you the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. I told you when we started, and I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you you're again in front of your mother, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not your point fingers, and we're not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody specificly college Jane's dead, but that we do

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<v Speaker 1>have to have the trivia because these are unanswered questions

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<v Speaker 1>if we can't leave unanswered to close out this investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Circe is a dry county, so to get the booze,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay drives with Gary donn the thirty minutes to the

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<v Speaker 1>Junction liquor store in Big Flat, which sits right on

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<v Speaker 1>the border of Circe and wet Baxter County. Ever Clear,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what the kids at the party Jane attended

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<v Speaker 1>were drinking, is one hundred and ninety proof. That's ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five percent alcohol content, making it one of the purest

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<v Speaker 1>and most potent alcoholic beverages available, and Jay tells police

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<v Speaker 1>that along with the punch, he added fruit pieces soaked

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<v Speaker 1>in rubbing alcohol to make it extra strong. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>my high school chemistry teacher lecturing about the dangers of

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<v Speaker 1>grain alcohol. He took a styrofoam cup. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>grain alcohol does to your stomach, he would tell us,

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<v Speaker 1>And when he poured the alcohol into the cup, the

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<v Speaker 1>styrofoam bottom melted instantly. I can't remember what chemical reaction

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<v Speaker 1>caused the cup to melt, but I can remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>far from being deterred by the potential danger, the kids

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<v Speaker 1>in my class had the opposite reaction. Strong plus cheap

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<v Speaker 1>equals a maximum buzz for minimum cost. Shortly after saying

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye to her friend Leslie, Jane heads to the town square.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in the Daisy Queen were the main spots where

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<v Speaker 1>teens would hang around on the weekends. Janie's friend Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Rose is driving around the town square in his truck.

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<v Speaker 1>He's with Kim, another friend. Jane asked them for a

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<v Speaker 1>ride to the party. Should be a swarm statement of

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Dale Rose, twenty years old. This is Ron Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>not to be confused with Janie's died Ron Ward. How

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<v Speaker 1>did how did Olivia act when he first talked her

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<v Speaker 1>out there on the square? Did that she's doing a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good movie. When she was talking being really happy,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember anything in particular if she talked about

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<v Speaker 1>what you got to the bar? I really I just

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<v Speaker 1>wondered who all was going to be down there and

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<v Speaker 1>what was doing on? Okay, so you and Olivia and

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<v Speaker 1>Kim went to the party together. Ron says the three

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<v Speaker 1>of them got to the party around five point thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or six pm. Soon after that, more people start arriving.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Gary Donn, the twenty two year old who bought

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol, and we in associated with a few people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I seen Jane, and there's more. There's more people

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<v Speaker 1>and went on into the house, went there and there

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<v Speaker 1>was people doing different things. There's people who listened to

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<v Speaker 1>this ORYA. Only there's people in the kitchen, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>some people out there that had ferried out there as

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<v Speaker 1>messing with the There's more people out in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm or less walked on through one housesosiated with

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<v Speaker 1>a few more than people. Multiple witnesses see Janey at

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<v Speaker 1>the party. Some people say they saw Jane drinking the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA punch, chewing on a few pieces of fruit, the

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<v Speaker 1>one soaked and rubbing alcohol. But no one at the

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<v Speaker 1>party is paying close attention to what Janie is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of partygoers said they talked with Jane, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't remember what they talked about. People say she

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting on Ron Roses truck's tailgate, or on a

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<v Speaker 1>couch on the front porch, she was leaning against a post,

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<v Speaker 1>or sitting on the rail of the porch. No one

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<v Speaker 1>knows for sure. According to the National Weather Service, sunset

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<v Speaker 1>on September ninth, nineteen eighty nine was at seven twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm, and that's around the time that all hell

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<v Speaker 1>breaks loose. Depending on who you ask, two things happen

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<v Speaker 1>simultaneously or one after the other. Janie falls and someone

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<v Speaker 1>shout that the party is about to get busted by

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<v Speaker 1>the cops. Even though it didn't have electricity, the cabin

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<v Speaker 1>had a phone. It's called a party line, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a common sight in rural Arkansas during the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>A party line is a phone line where you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the phone and listen in on conversations

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<v Speaker 1>happening nearby. If you want to use the phone to

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<v Speaker 1>call out, you usually have to wait for another person

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<v Speaker 1>to hang up and someone at the party. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is sure who heard a neighbor calling the cop on duty,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Pruett, and telling him a bunch of kids were

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<v Speaker 1>having a party with alcohol. The neighbor also complained that

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<v Speaker 1>the party goers ran her off the road as they

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<v Speaker 1>zoomed up to the cabin. Of all the people at

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<v Speaker 1>the party, only three say they actually saw Janie fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Garyed on a cheerleader named Sarah and Billy, the high

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<v Speaker 1>school quarterback. Sarah said that she was on the porch

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<v Speaker 1>when Janey sort of twisted sideway then just fell on back.

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<v Speaker 1>In Billy's statement, he says, she just came straight back

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<v Speaker 1>like a tree. Gary Donn was socializing on the porch,

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<v Speaker 1>so I looked away, and then I was more or

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<v Speaker 1>less glass back in this in fly. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>called her in flight, is what I'm saying. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she was falling when I looked, and I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>happened that quick. This, I mean, all that right there

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about happened more or less in just

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<v Speaker 1>a little wat. I mean she fell. I mean somebody hollered.

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<v Speaker 1>Joy Prut was coming, That's what I heard. Joey Prutt

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<v Speaker 1>was the police officer supposedly coming to bust the party.

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<v Speaker 1>But and then people started scattering running by her. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's more or less whenever I really started paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to her, because I mean, I couldn't get nobody to

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<v Speaker 1>help me. I didn't know if she was knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>or what or really hurt or anything. I knew when

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<v Speaker 1>I got down there and turned her head over, safety

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<v Speaker 1>busted her head over. That's the first thing I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I try and save our head was much

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<v Speaker 1>the over good. I thought her, she might knock yourself out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me and somebody lift her up on the porch

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<v Speaker 1>j in the light, because the porch just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had her face shaving and stuff. It had her shaved

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and we raised her up in the

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<v Speaker 1>light where we could really see her, pay attention to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically from that, this payple is going wild. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing no one can agree on is how long Janie

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<v Speaker 1>was laying on the ground. Gary don makes it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like it was less than a minute, but Billy said

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<v Speaker 1>it was more like fifteen to twenty minutes before anyone

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<v Speaker 1>moved her. So this is the Billy Harris statement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is brutal. Kim Weddie went over to Janie and

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<v Speaker 1>said she had passed out. I never saw anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>go over to her. I went back in the house

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<v Speaker 1>and talked with Jason, Matthew Brian. She probably laid there

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty minutes before anybody moved her. Me, Jamie, Gail,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gary Donn moved her to the back of Ron's truck.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she was ever moved onto the porch.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie and Gil said she needed to go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that's when I came back outside, that she

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<v Speaker 1>had a bowel movement. I could see that her pants

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<v Speaker 1>were wet and she was having a hard time breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose and Kim were in the cab of his truck,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rose said there was no room for Janie except

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. I offered to ride with her in

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<v Speaker 1>the back, but Rose said no, he didn't want any

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<v Speaker 1>trouble with the wall. I offered to get a blanket,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said no, she'd be all right. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>she moved her arm across her chest and we'd put

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<v Speaker 1>her in the truck. She never said anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>I heard. Janie was on the ground fifteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes before someone said the police was coming. Everyone just

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was drunk and and passed out. Once everyone

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<v Speaker 1>found out the cops were coming, people started panicking. Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Dahn said, everyone was running around like maniacs. They see

0:15:49.485 --> 0:15:53.245
<v Speaker 1>Janie soil herself. At this point, they know she's in

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<v Speaker 1>serious trouble, maybe dying. The decision was made to put

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<v Speaker 1>Janie into the back of Ron Rose's truck. Ron, Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sherry, another friend, got in the front. They started

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<v Speaker 1>the three mile drive on rural roads to marshall'stown Square.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, no one is sitting in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the truck with Jane during the rocky ride back to town,

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<v Speaker 1>until Kim opens the window of the truck cab and

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<v Speaker 1>climbs into the back to check on Jane. As Ron

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<v Speaker 1>zoomed down Highway sixty five, he passed another friend, Carla Brightwell.

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<v Speaker 1>She flashed her lights at his truck and when he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't slow down, she thought something must be wrong, so

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<v Speaker 1>she followed him. They ended up at the bank parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, Carla said, Ron and the girls were

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<v Speaker 1>arguing about whether Jane was just passed out and whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they should take her home. I heard somebody

0:16:54.245 --> 0:16:57.085
<v Speaker 1>say she's called, you know, and Dennie Wynn got a

0:16:57.245 --> 0:17:04.365
<v Speaker 1>jacket at somebody's car and put over Jane and someone

0:17:04.445 --> 0:17:08.805
<v Speaker 1>said she hadn't I already seen her move, that she

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<v Speaker 1>fell off the porch, and I kind of thought, right then,

0:17:12.845 --> 0:17:15.605
<v Speaker 1>though she fell off, of course she hadn't moved, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all these end runs in my head. So Pam

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<v Speaker 1>and I went over to her, and we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to feel her pulse, you know, because you know from

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<v Speaker 1>when I said of like, you know, fell off of

0:17:25.725 --> 0:17:28.005
<v Speaker 1>what I thought, maybe she's look for her, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you bag what I thought. Carla took control. She told

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<v Speaker 1>Beach that she felt for a pulse and thought she

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<v Speaker 1>might have found one, but she since decided that what

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<v Speaker 1>she felt was her own pulse. She picked up Janie's arm.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt cold. I knew enough to know to go

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody that might know what to do, but they

0:17:51.405 --> 0:17:53.325
<v Speaker 1>don't train. You didn't know what to do to pull

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<v Speaker 1>up in a bag of the truck and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>girl lay in there and you don't have a certainty.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't know what to do, true, and

0:17:59.965 --> 0:18:01.645
<v Speaker 1>I need to get help somebody that didn't know what

0:18:01.725 --> 0:18:05.365
<v Speaker 1>they were doing. So Carla had run across the street

0:18:05.565 --> 0:18:09.485
<v Speaker 1>the ambulance service to alert them of Jane's condition. J D.

0:18:09.645 --> 0:18:12.525
<v Speaker 1>Beeson was the ambulance driver and manager of the ambulance

0:18:12.565 --> 0:18:16.005
<v Speaker 1>service at the time. He and his wife, Kathy, a

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<v Speaker 1>licensed LPN, arrived on the scene and would later testify

0:18:20.005 --> 0:18:23.605
<v Speaker 1>that Jane was lying on her right side. In a statement,

0:18:23.725 --> 0:18:27.005
<v Speaker 1>Cathy said, we checked and rechecked for needle marks at

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<v Speaker 1>the request of the sheriff. Coarse sand, dry leaves, and

0:18:31.485 --> 0:18:34.405
<v Speaker 1>small twigs were found at the blouse neck and the

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<v Speaker 1>LEVI waste. Coarse sand was found on the abdomen under

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<v Speaker 1>the bra Cathy said this immediately led her to conclude

0:18:43.005 --> 0:18:47.365
<v Speaker 1>this was a suspicious death, not an accidental death. Another

0:18:47.445 --> 0:18:51.045
<v Speaker 1>employee of the ambulance service stepped in. He stated that

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<v Speaker 1>he noticed something else, a strong odor of alcohol on Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's odd because it doesn't match witness statements at the

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<v Speaker 1>party who said that she wasn't drinking heavily. One of

0:19:02.205 --> 0:19:05.645
<v Speaker 1>the paramedics who examined Janie remembers seeing a black back

0:19:05.765 --> 0:19:09.925
<v Speaker 1>def leopard T shirt over a white pinstriped shirt. She

0:19:10.005 --> 0:19:12.445
<v Speaker 1>remembers having to unbutton and roll up the shirt in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get to Janie's body. Meanwhile, many of the

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<v Speaker 1>kids who had left the party congregated at the Daisy Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them were talking about what happened to Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them came to the Bank parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>where a huge crowd gathered around Jane's lifeless body. By

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<v Speaker 1>this point, half the town is there. It even makes

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<v Speaker 1>the evening news, but her parents Ron and Mona still

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what has happened to their daughter. Jane

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<v Speaker 1>is pronounced dead at eight forty five pm. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back on the night Jane he died. Bill Beach

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<v Speaker 1>interviews four of the people at the party, Gary Dawn,

0:20:10.445 --> 0:20:15.765
<v Speaker 1>Kim Jay, and Ron Rose. He then asked the sheriff

0:20:15.845 --> 0:20:21.085
<v Speaker 1>to send everyone home. Over the next few days, the

0:20:21.165 --> 0:20:24.885
<v Speaker 1>sheriff collects statements from the kids at school. Beach then

0:20:25.005 --> 0:20:29.205
<v Speaker 1>interviews thirty people. Over the next few months, he reinterviews

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key witnesses. As I read through his interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>several things start to bug me. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>statements collected from people at the party are incredibly short

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<v Speaker 1>and don't provide much detail, and they spend half the

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<v Speaker 1>time talking about who provided the booze for the party.

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<v Speaker 1>And over the months people's answers change. The cheerleader Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>changes her answers of who she was at the party with,

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<v Speaker 1>and also adds a story about Janie, calling her a snob.

0:21:01.365 --> 0:21:04.965
<v Speaker 1>Gary Don initially said he saw Janie fall, but later

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<v Speaker 1>in a reenactment video done by the Arkansas State Police,

0:21:08.845 --> 0:21:13.565
<v Speaker 1>he demonstrated how Janey was likely to have fallen. It's strange.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of other partygoers also said they heard a

0:21:17.245 --> 0:21:22.245
<v Speaker 1>thud when Jane fell, and then a statement from a

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<v Speaker 1>police dispatcher named Harold Young throws everything off. Ron, Rose, Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sherry all said they drove from the cabin to

0:21:30.965 --> 0:21:34.565
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot without stopping, but the dispatcher at the

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<v Speaker 1>police station that night said Ron came by the sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>department at six thirty pm to tell him there was

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<v Speaker 1>an injured girl in the back of his truck. The

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<v Speaker 1>dispatcher's statement was notarized, and he confirmed what he said

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<v Speaker 1>years later during another investigation into Janie's death. So, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how you read the witness statements and who you believe,

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<v Speaker 1>the time between Janie falling and being in the Bank

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot could either have been half an hour or

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<v Speaker 1>more than ninety minutes. The order of events and how

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<v Speaker 1>much time passed between them becomes one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>hot button issues throughout the last thirty years of investigations.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought having all of these statements available to us

0:22:15.365 --> 0:22:18.485
<v Speaker 1>would be an advantage in figuring out this case, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's leading me to even more questions what could have

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<v Speaker 1>happened in those ninety missing minutes. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the recurring questions that the journalists Mike Masterson asks in

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<v Speaker 1>his columns about Jane. After Jane died, the Ward family

0:22:35.565 --> 0:22:38.485
<v Speaker 1>heard plenty of troubling stories about what could have happened

0:22:38.565 --> 0:22:41.805
<v Speaker 1>during that missing time. Well, and that's why Jamie and

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<v Speaker 1>the Brose boy after they've directed to go to the

0:22:44.965 --> 0:22:48.445
<v Speaker 1>macparking lots so Janey could be discovered there. That's why

0:22:48.525 --> 0:22:50.885
<v Speaker 1>they were sitting there debating on whether to take Jennie's

0:22:51.005 --> 0:22:54.445
<v Speaker 1>body to us so Ronnie could take it from there

0:22:54.685 --> 0:22:57.125
<v Speaker 1>instead of them going along with their cover up. So

0:22:57.205 --> 0:22:59.005
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what to do. Well, they also took

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<v Speaker 1>her to the Mac parking lot because there is a

0:23:01.445 --> 0:23:05.085
<v Speaker 1>car wash there and that's where they redwashed her body

0:23:05.085 --> 0:23:08.645
<v Speaker 1>and marsh they were directed to take hersh her off

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<v Speaker 1>and wait at the bank parking lot until they could

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<v Speaker 1>come and discover her. Did they ever explained why she

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<v Speaker 1>was wet and where her hair was wet and where

0:23:16.325 --> 0:23:22.805
<v Speaker 1>there was sand in her clothes? I mean no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was never addressed. Yeah, I just rumors and witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that they washed her now with the water hose

0:23:29.525 --> 0:23:32.405
<v Speaker 1>at the car lot or the car wash in the

0:23:32.445 --> 0:23:35.765
<v Speaker 1>bank parking lot. And when you say witnesses, was it

0:23:35.845 --> 0:23:38.525
<v Speaker 1>people in the official report? Who so it was? This

0:23:38.685 --> 0:23:42.805
<v Speaker 1>is like people talking beyond these missing minutes. What confuses

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<v Speaker 1>me the most is the statements from the ambulance service

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<v Speaker 1>attendants JD and Kathy. First of all, it took Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Beach more than three months to interview them, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was after they requested he talk to them. They were

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<v Speaker 1>so concerned they even compiled their own statements to deliver

0:24:00.165 --> 0:24:05.645
<v Speaker 1>to him. Talked to hit This is an interview you

0:24:05.725 --> 0:24:09.045
<v Speaker 1>that Ron Ward did with j D and Kathy. As

0:24:09.085 --> 0:24:13.045
<v Speaker 1>Beach does his investigation, Ron has started his own would

0:24:13.045 --> 0:24:15.925
<v Speaker 1>you like my opinion? And this is just speculation? Okay?

0:24:15.965 --> 0:24:18.285
<v Speaker 1>I thank somebody throwing the damn river and picked her up.

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<v Speaker 1>Work took to a carb wars and holder or something,

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<v Speaker 1>But the investigators haven't him talked to Cat and I yet,

0:24:23.525 --> 0:24:27.085
<v Speaker 1>and I asked him. I asked Carold Young the other night,

0:24:28.445 --> 0:24:31.685
<v Speaker 1>those investigators question Cat and I. We were the first

0:24:31.725 --> 0:24:34.765
<v Speaker 1>ones on the scene. Jad and Kathy confirmed some of

0:24:34.805 --> 0:24:37.445
<v Speaker 1>the things Ron saw when he saw Janie's body at

0:24:37.485 --> 0:24:41.605
<v Speaker 1>the Morgan Marshall, like the sand and twigs. They said

0:24:41.605 --> 0:24:45.045
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't noticed bruising, but in their notarized statement to

0:24:45.085 --> 0:24:48.805
<v Speaker 1>Bill Beach, they did remark on swelling on Janie's neck

0:24:48.885 --> 0:24:52.725
<v Speaker 1>and shoulder. They also said she was wet except for

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<v Speaker 1>her genital area, which doesn't make any sense because multiple

0:24:56.885 --> 0:25:01.565
<v Speaker 1>witnesses at the party specifically said Janie wet herself. The

0:25:01.685 --> 0:25:05.005
<v Speaker 1>paramedics also noted that Jane had a foamy substance coming

0:25:05.005 --> 0:25:07.285
<v Speaker 1>out of her I bet there was one hundred kids

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<v Speaker 1>over there, and the first thing I did had John Childers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know him or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't chase everybody away from the truck. You know, they're

0:25:14.085 --> 0:25:15.765
<v Speaker 1>twenty five feet back. That's the first thing to do.

0:25:16.045 --> 0:25:19.605
<v Speaker 1>While she was checking them. You I feel funny talking

0:25:19.605 --> 0:25:25.085
<v Speaker 1>about this, and funny Ron, I'm sorry. Quick, So then

0:25:25.125 --> 0:25:28.645
<v Speaker 1>Kathy check her he had no radio pulse, she had

0:25:28.685 --> 0:25:32.605
<v Speaker 1>no karate pulse. Her eyes were dialing really large. I

0:25:32.685 --> 0:25:35.685
<v Speaker 1>think we told you about that. And she had no

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<v Speaker 1>visible bruises whatsoever on her body from the way stuff

0:25:38.845 --> 0:25:40.685
<v Speaker 1>the other thing we found on herbs and twigs and

0:25:40.765 --> 0:25:44.285
<v Speaker 1>leaves and sandy gravel, you know, like we told you.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff down here and the back of the riches here

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<v Speaker 1>and there was poor fans all and she was wet

0:25:53.205 --> 0:25:55.805
<v Speaker 1>as is, like somebody dropped in a river or something

0:25:55.845 --> 0:25:58.765
<v Speaker 1>and picked it back up. As we saw in Rebecca's case,

0:25:59.365 --> 0:26:04.485
<v Speaker 1>memory can be unreliable, and like Rebecca's, Janie's case quickly

0:26:04.565 --> 0:26:08.485
<v Speaker 1>began to become a question of who remembered what people forget,

0:26:09.365 --> 0:26:11.525
<v Speaker 1>and the more time that has passed since an incident,

0:26:11.965 --> 0:26:14.685
<v Speaker 1>the more likely it is for people to incorporate rumor

0:26:14.845 --> 0:26:22.765
<v Speaker 1>into what they remember. This is a phone call between

0:26:22.925 --> 0:26:25.885
<v Speaker 1>Ron Ward and Bill Beach. It was included in the

0:26:25.965 --> 0:26:31.165
<v Speaker 1>original police case file. Cool Roy, Bill Beach. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing just fine there you okay, my lieutenant, Come and

0:26:35.685 --> 0:26:39.765
<v Speaker 1>tell me that you had some more names. Oh, yes,

0:26:40.685 --> 0:26:44.085
<v Speaker 1>I do, okay. Ron is providing names for Beach to

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on. This phone call is fifteen minutes long. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, though, Ronn, is do you have all

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<v Speaker 1>this documentary? Is it? Would it be offered for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get copies though, so I can compare them. I

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<v Speaker 1>can go through and check the names and compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to what they have told me, you know, And I'd say,

0:27:01.565 --> 0:27:03.765
<v Speaker 1>if there's people that I haven't talked to, that haven't

0:27:03.805 --> 0:27:06.085
<v Speaker 1>been interviewed, and I can go back and I can

0:27:06.165 --> 0:27:09.085
<v Speaker 1>do that, or if it's people that have been interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>that have given contrary and information that I can reinterview

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<v Speaker 1>from what we can tell this call that was included

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<v Speaker 1>in the official police file was very soft. And have

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<v Speaker 1>you got tape conversations with manage people? What I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect you'd given the original takes, But it

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<v Speaker 1>would it be possible for some one time to desicateto

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<v Speaker 1>and let me get copies of the duskis ron also

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<v Speaker 1>recorded some calls with Arkansas State Police officers where he

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<v Speaker 1>starts venting his frustration about what he feels to be

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<v Speaker 1>Beach's lack of progress on the case. Ron how are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay? I've been up here all day and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Philip Christy and I told him must coming

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been working on some mothers things. He said

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<v Speaker 1>you had take for him. You know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he beend the merchant who he's worked with me?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, you know, but then

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<v Speaker 1>feel come over information money now, okaymation you bet, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the only way I will do Okay. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the investigator. He's wanted to see, he is, He's

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<v Speaker 1>going first to investigate it, and I'm the father. Ron

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<v Speaker 1>is suggesting a trade with the police. He will hand

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<v Speaker 1>his interviews over to them if they will give him

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<v Speaker 1>more access to the information that they've collected. Tensions continue

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<v Speaker 1>to grow when Ron hears about Beach's interview with Gary Donn.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, Gary Donn complains about Ron. Ronnie calls my

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<v Speaker 1>mother all that is not called at one o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>more than ask her where I was and if I

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<v Speaker 1>was all right? He calls me that already at a

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<v Speaker 1>million becomes old with not has. He says that Ron

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<v Speaker 1>is calling his mother at one in the morning, is

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<v Speaker 1>calling him and has come by his house. Beach even

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<v Speaker 1>says that Gary don can file charges against Ron. Ron

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<v Speaker 1>gets wind of this interview, and has also heard that

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<v Speaker 1>Beach has been asking about him and other witness interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron calls the Arkansas State Police, I understand it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>see ID agent Bill Beats is running around town here

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<v Speaker 1>and get an information and trying to say that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one to beat my daughter up. That's the information

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<v Speaker 1>I have a chieve today. I do not appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>one bit. What's this got to do with my daughter dying?

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<v Speaker 1>And they said I'm beating her up? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't understand this. I really can't. Over all things I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand. You know, this is affecting my family life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's affect of my mind. It works on the people

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole county, the whole state. Everybody's undertune, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering just what the hell this happened this time?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, mister Beechers, like I go before, said almost

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<v Speaker 1>the lucrous person. I'm not at all real luckily be

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<v Speaker 1>to handle this at all. It's been one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen days to day, it's been one hundred and eighteen days,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, and no answers. You'll be right back. After

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Janie's case file, I'm left with plenty of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they put Janie in the front of the truck,

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<v Speaker 1>and if she was in the back, why did no

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<v Speaker 1>one ride with her the entire way and hold her

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<v Speaker 1>hand If she had an in was it made worse

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<v Speaker 1>by riding in the back of that truck? Also? Why

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<v Speaker 1>was she left lying on the ground for so long?

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<v Speaker 1>One sixteen year old kid was insistent and said that

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to speak to investigators the night Janie died.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that Jannie was lying on the ground at

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<v Speaker 1>the party for much longer than a few minutes without

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<v Speaker 1>anyone getting help for her, and that they were focused

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<v Speaker 1>on cleaning up the beer. I get that they were scared,

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<v Speaker 1>but why didn't anyone help her? And why did some

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<v Speaker 1>people hear a thud when she fell? Also why was

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<v Speaker 1>she so wet? One statement said that someone threw beer

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<v Speaker 1>on her to try to revive her. That could account

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<v Speaker 1>for the strong odor of alcohol that paramedics said they

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<v Speaker 1>saw on her. But one witness who was in the

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<v Speaker 1>bank parking lot said they were called water gushing from

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<v Speaker 1>the back of ron Rose's truck. What was the root

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<v Speaker 1>of the truck from the party to the bank parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot In his statement, ron Rose said they decided to

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<v Speaker 1>take Jane there because they thought it would be faster

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<v Speaker 1>than calling for help, and the bank parking lot was

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<v Speaker 1>close to the ambulance service. But why didn't they just

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<v Speaker 1>go directly to the ambulance service? And if we take

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<v Speaker 1>the police dispatcher at his word, could they have taken

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative route? Did they make additional stops? Obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot we still need to figure out. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we do know is that in the months after Janie's death,

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<v Speaker 1>an environment of hostility is brewing in Marshall. The Wards

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<v Speaker 1>and a growing number of residents are starting to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that no one in the police department is telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Fingers are getting pointed, and any remaining trust between citizens

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<v Speaker 1>and authorities is deteriorating. On December seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>a little over three months after Jane died, the Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>Gazette runs a story with the headline teenagers death remains

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery. Parents call investigation a cover up. Rumors are flying,

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to take a step back and turn

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<v Speaker 1>to the one piece of evidence that Mike give us

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<v Speaker 1>some more reliable answers. We need to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the case file and take a hard look at Jane's

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy and find out what happened at the Arkansas Crime Lab.

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