1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:32,045 Speaker 1: School of humans. These it's not just the victim and 2 00:00:32,045 --> 00:00:34,165 Speaker 1: the victim's family. It's the worst for them, but there's 3 00:00:34,165 --> 00:00:37,685 Speaker 1: also the people who are accused, and it's never cleared 4 00:00:37,685 --> 00:00:39,245 Speaker 1: one way or the other, really, and so they get 5 00:00:39,245 --> 00:00:43,325 Speaker 1: whispered about in town and just the crazy rumors hurt 6 00:00:43,365 --> 00:00:45,245 Speaker 1: a lot of people. When there's no justice done, it 7 00:00:45,325 --> 00:00:47,005 Speaker 1: hurts a lot of people. It hurts the whole town. 8 00:00:48,005 --> 00:00:49,565 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these people. Their children may 9 00:00:49,605 --> 00:00:52,085 Speaker 1: be getting to that age, their kids might be sixteen 10 00:00:52,245 --> 00:00:55,245 Speaker 1: or even older, and so that's got to be hard 11 00:00:55,285 --> 00:00:57,005 Speaker 1: if you saw something like that at a party and 12 00:00:57,005 --> 00:00:59,845 Speaker 1: you never told anyone. And it's interesting because I could 13 00:00:59,885 --> 00:01:04,405 Speaker 1: completely understand being sixteen years old. You're terrified, you're terrified 14 00:01:04,445 --> 00:01:07,605 Speaker 1: of getting in trouble for drinking and you know whatever. 15 00:01:08,645 --> 00:01:11,805 Speaker 1: But that's very different from thirty years later. You've got 16 00:01:11,885 --> 00:01:15,525 Speaker 1: kids who are older, like you know. It's just interesting. 17 00:01:16,885 --> 00:01:19,805 Speaker 1: It's the end of winter and icicles are frozen on 18 00:01:19,845 --> 00:01:23,085 Speaker 1: the gutters of my dad's house in Mountain View. I'm 19 00:01:23,125 --> 00:01:25,605 Speaker 1: on the top floor in the war room, and in 20 00:01:25,605 --> 00:01:28,645 Speaker 1: front of me are two boxes. There's a small brown 21 00:01:28,645 --> 00:01:31,885 Speaker 1: one that looks like an oversized briefcase and a huge 22 00:01:31,925 --> 00:01:36,005 Speaker 1: plastic blue one. These hopefully hold the clues to what 23 00:01:36,165 --> 00:01:39,725 Speaker 1: happened to Janie Ward on September ninth, nineteen eighty nine. 24 00:01:41,165 --> 00:01:44,725 Speaker 1: Everything in these boxes was collected by Janie's dad, Ron. 25 00:01:45,805 --> 00:01:48,245 Speaker 1: He died last summer, but I feel like I've been 26 00:01:48,285 --> 00:01:50,965 Speaker 1: talking to him every single day. Weird how things will 27 00:01:51,005 --> 00:01:54,445 Speaker 1: hit you emotionally. You're really you know, you're okay for 28 00:01:54,485 --> 00:01:56,605 Speaker 1: a long time, and then you see something. The autopsy 29 00:01:56,605 --> 00:01:59,565 Speaker 1: photos I saw were war horrific, something that no family, 30 00:01:59,605 --> 00:02:02,005 Speaker 1: you know, father should ever have to see. And then 31 00:02:02,045 --> 00:02:05,445 Speaker 1: you'd see things like all of Ron's correspondence with his attorney, 32 00:02:05,605 --> 00:02:09,565 Speaker 1: me and with the state. And Ron had obviously googled 33 00:02:09,565 --> 00:02:12,925 Speaker 1: how to write a business letter and what to do, 34 00:02:13,005 --> 00:02:15,085 Speaker 1: how to get a notary, how to get a notarized statement. 35 00:02:15,165 --> 00:02:18,085 Speaker 1: I mean he really every single thing in there was 36 00:02:18,125 --> 00:02:21,285 Speaker 1: documented by him, and you could just see how meticulous 37 00:02:21,285 --> 00:02:22,965 Speaker 1: he was and how hard he worked, and right up 38 00:02:23,005 --> 00:02:25,485 Speaker 1: until the end, he had his to do list. Like 39 00:02:25,525 --> 00:02:28,085 Speaker 1: we did with Rebecca's case, In order to figure out 40 00:02:28,125 --> 00:02:32,165 Speaker 1: what really happened to Jane, we need to focus on victimology. 41 00:02:32,205 --> 00:02:34,485 Speaker 1: We have to try to reconstruct what was going on 42 00:02:34,565 --> 00:02:36,685 Speaker 1: in her life. And the days and the hours leading 43 00:02:36,765 --> 00:02:40,565 Speaker 1: up to her death, what really happened at that party? 44 00:02:41,005 --> 00:02:45,165 Speaker 1: And thirty years later, why don't we know the truth 45 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:48,885 Speaker 1: about how Janie died. I'm Catherine Townsend and this is 46 00:02:48,885 --> 00:03:25,405 Speaker 1: Helen Gone. So yeah, I'm keeping him in the order 47 00:03:25,525 --> 00:03:27,885 Speaker 1: Ron had them in, But then I'm also separable going 48 00:03:27,925 --> 00:03:30,645 Speaker 1: back to the week leading up to the party on Saturday, 49 00:03:30,725 --> 00:03:33,685 Speaker 1: September ninth, nineteen eighty nine. I'm keeping him the same 50 00:03:33,725 --> 00:03:36,325 Speaker 1: folders that Ron had them in, and he was very methodical, 51 00:03:36,325 --> 00:03:38,085 Speaker 1: so I don't want to mess that up, and I've 52 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:39,885 Speaker 1: put a few aside I think we need to be 53 00:03:39,925 --> 00:03:41,885 Speaker 1: to deal with first that are contradictory. But anyway, we're 54 00:03:41,965 --> 00:03:44,605 Speaker 1: using witness statements from the Arkansas State Police case file. 55 00:03:45,525 --> 00:03:48,725 Speaker 1: The ASP took charge of Jane's case at the request 56 00:03:48,845 --> 00:03:52,525 Speaker 1: of Sircy County Sheriff Kent Griggs. The sheriff had a 57 00:03:52,605 --> 00:03:55,485 Speaker 1: history with Ron and he wanted to avoid any suggestion 58 00:03:55,565 --> 00:03:59,605 Speaker 1: of impropriety. Arkansas State Police investigator Bill Beach got the call, 59 00:04:00,085 --> 00:04:03,525 Speaker 1: he drove to Marshall and started his investigation. And there 60 00:04:03,525 --> 00:04:08,765 Speaker 1: are also contradictory things about out where Janie was. They 61 00:04:08,765 --> 00:04:10,325 Speaker 1: call her Olivia in a lot of the statements because 62 00:04:10,325 --> 00:04:12,925 Speaker 1: her name's Olivia Jane, But I mean most of these 63 00:04:12,965 --> 00:04:17,565 Speaker 1: witness statements spend more time talking about the kegs and 64 00:04:18,165 --> 00:04:20,965 Speaker 1: who collected money at school during the party and who 65 00:04:21,045 --> 00:04:24,325 Speaker 1: was playing the party. By that Wednesday, everyone in the 66 00:04:24,405 --> 00:04:27,885 Speaker 1: junior class at Marshall High School is buzzing about a party. 67 00:04:27,925 --> 00:04:31,085 Speaker 1: It's being thrown by one of Janie's cousins, Jamie Ward. 68 00:04:31,565 --> 00:04:34,725 Speaker 1: Since their names are so similar, will refer to him 69 00:04:34,765 --> 00:04:37,805 Speaker 1: as Jay from this point on. Jay lived at a 70 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:41,685 Speaker 1: cabin in the woods off of unpaved Zach Road. The 71 00:04:41,725 --> 00:04:45,405 Speaker 1: cabin was owned by Jay's father, Steve Ward. Even though 72 00:04:45,525 --> 00:04:48,245 Speaker 1: Jay is only sixteen, his parents let him live in 73 00:04:48,245 --> 00:04:50,725 Speaker 1: the cabin by himself so he could keep going to 74 00:04:50,765 --> 00:04:54,725 Speaker 1: Marshall High School. Jane's family lived pretty far away from 75 00:04:54,765 --> 00:04:58,725 Speaker 1: downtown Marshall. Janie's mom, Mona, told Bill Beach that it 76 00:04:58,765 --> 00:05:00,845 Speaker 1: was not unusual for Janie to spend the night with 77 00:05:00,885 --> 00:05:04,685 Speaker 1: friends on the weekend. On most Fridays, Jane rode the 78 00:05:04,685 --> 00:05:07,045 Speaker 1: school bus home and then a friend would pick her 79 00:05:07,165 --> 00:05:11,205 Speaker 1: up to go back to downtown Marshall. Ron told Bill 80 00:05:11,245 --> 00:05:13,605 Speaker 1: Beach that the last time he saw his daughter was 81 00:05:13,645 --> 00:05:18,085 Speaker 1: the morning of Friday, September eighth, a day before the party. 82 00:05:18,205 --> 00:05:20,485 Speaker 1: He told Beach that she left home wearing a pin 83 00:05:20,605 --> 00:05:24,885 Speaker 1: striped shirt and stonewashed jeans. We know that Janie was 84 00:05:24,925 --> 00:05:27,525 Speaker 1: excited about the party from an interview her friend Leslie 85 00:05:27,525 --> 00:05:29,805 Speaker 1: did with Bill Beach. It's been an interview of Leslie, 86 00:05:29,965 --> 00:05:34,685 Speaker 1: student died in tenth grade approximately four twenty FM. Leslie 87 00:05:34,685 --> 00:05:36,685 Speaker 1: says Janie spent the night with her on the Friday 88 00:05:36,725 --> 00:05:41,405 Speaker 1: night before the party. Where was last night time? The 89 00:05:41,525 --> 00:05:44,125 Speaker 1: last time Leslie saw Janie was at around four thirty 90 00:05:44,165 --> 00:05:52,245 Speaker 1: pm on Saturday, finish fir on linked she said shirt. 91 00:05:52,645 --> 00:05:55,605 Speaker 1: Leslie just said that Jane borrowed a shirt from her. 92 00:05:55,845 --> 00:05:58,885 Speaker 1: When did you find out which one she bought? Say? 93 00:05:59,005 --> 00:06:04,565 Speaker 1: After it happened. She tells Beach that she discovered her 94 00:06:04,605 --> 00:06:07,845 Speaker 1: missing shirt day after Janie died when she went through 95 00:06:07,845 --> 00:06:10,125 Speaker 1: her drawer to see which one of her shirts was missing. 96 00:06:11,045 --> 00:06:14,725 Speaker 1: It was her deaf leopard one. So we know where 97 00:06:14,725 --> 00:06:17,445 Speaker 1: the shirt came from, but we still don't know how 98 00:06:17,485 --> 00:06:19,445 Speaker 1: she could have been wearing one shirt at the funeral 99 00:06:19,485 --> 00:06:22,085 Speaker 1: home in Marshall and then a different one at the 100 00:06:22,085 --> 00:06:26,165 Speaker 1: crime lab in Little Rock. Leslie also says Janie told 101 00:06:26,165 --> 00:06:27,805 Speaker 1: her she was going to stash her clothes at the 102 00:06:27,805 --> 00:06:29,885 Speaker 1: pool hall so that she could pick them up after 103 00:06:29,885 --> 00:06:34,285 Speaker 1: the party. Was there anything in the time that she's 104 00:06:34,365 --> 00:06:38,085 Speaker 1: fad with you last year it was saying to be 105 00:06:38,205 --> 00:06:44,925 Speaker 1: bothering her INtime that she's concerned bat Nothing as far 106 00:06:45,005 --> 00:06:48,925 Speaker 1: as well she's trying to glory kiss I ran her 107 00:06:48,965 --> 00:06:55,245 Speaker 1: financial tumble. Yes, she get into the air. While Jane's 108 00:06:55,245 --> 00:06:58,205 Speaker 1: at Leslie's house fixing her hair, Jay is at his 109 00:06:58,325 --> 00:07:01,725 Speaker 1: house getting ready for the party. He's setting up kegs 110 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:05,725 Speaker 1: on the front porch. He's also preparing the PGA pine bunch, 111 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:09,765 Speaker 1: which stands for pure grain alcohol. He'd taken up money 112 00:07:09,805 --> 00:07:12,725 Speaker 1: at school and he collected around one hundred and fifty dollars. 113 00:07:12,965 --> 00:07:17,405 Speaker 1: Follow will be a swarm statement of Jamie Ward. Why 114 00:07:17,405 --> 00:07:22,245 Speaker 1: am I oil seventeen? Is that right? When was the 115 00:07:22,285 --> 00:07:28,605 Speaker 1: alcohol purchase for the party? In my hum? I don't know. 116 00:07:28,605 --> 00:07:33,925 Speaker 1: I ain't got it, Jamie. I'd I say that, Well, 117 00:07:34,085 --> 00:07:37,605 Speaker 1: you're under oath, you're not a suspect. Jay is reluctant 118 00:07:37,645 --> 00:07:39,765 Speaker 1: to share who bought the alcohol for the kids at 119 00:07:39,805 --> 00:07:43,645 Speaker 1: the party, but Beach has already discovered it was twenty 120 00:07:43,645 --> 00:07:46,045 Speaker 1: two year old Gary Don, did you go with Gary 121 00:07:46,085 --> 00:07:49,445 Speaker 1: Shnod's Big Flat? Gary Don is a graduate of Marshall 122 00:07:49,485 --> 00:07:51,885 Speaker 1: High School, and it's still friendly with the students there. 123 00:07:52,605 --> 00:07:54,325 Speaker 1: I told you when we started that I talked to 124 00:07:54,325 --> 00:07:55,885 Speaker 1: a lot of people since I talked to you the 125 00:07:55,885 --> 00:07:58,885 Speaker 1: first time. I told you when we started, and I 126 00:07:59,005 --> 00:08:01,525 Speaker 1: tell you you're again in front of your mother, that 127 00:08:01,645 --> 00:08:05,005 Speaker 1: we're not your point fingers, and we're not gonna say 128 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:09,685 Speaker 1: to somebody specificly college Jane's dead, but that we do 129 00:08:09,805 --> 00:08:13,725 Speaker 1: have to have the trivia because these are unanswered questions 130 00:08:13,725 --> 00:08:16,485 Speaker 1: if we can't leave unanswered to close out this investigation. 131 00:08:17,285 --> 00:08:20,285 Speaker 1: Circe is a dry county, so to get the booze, 132 00:08:20,925 --> 00:08:23,845 Speaker 1: Jay drives with Gary donn the thirty minutes to the 133 00:08:23,925 --> 00:08:27,325 Speaker 1: Junction liquor store in Big Flat, which sits right on 134 00:08:27,365 --> 00:08:31,645 Speaker 1: the border of Circe and wet Baxter County. Ever Clear, 135 00:08:32,165 --> 00:08:34,445 Speaker 1: which is what the kids at the party Jane attended 136 00:08:34,445 --> 00:08:38,565 Speaker 1: were drinking, is one hundred and ninety proof. That's ninety 137 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:42,285 Speaker 1: five percent alcohol content, making it one of the purest 138 00:08:42,365 --> 00:08:47,365 Speaker 1: and most potent alcoholic beverages available, and Jay tells police 139 00:08:47,525 --> 00:08:50,805 Speaker 1: that along with the punch, he added fruit pieces soaked 140 00:08:50,805 --> 00:08:54,845 Speaker 1: in rubbing alcohol to make it extra strong. I remember 141 00:08:54,925 --> 00:08:57,925 Speaker 1: my high school chemistry teacher lecturing about the dangers of 142 00:08:57,965 --> 00:09:02,125 Speaker 1: grain alcohol. He took a styrofoam cup. This is what 143 00:09:02,245 --> 00:09:04,605 Speaker 1: grain alcohol does to your stomach, he would tell us, 144 00:09:05,285 --> 00:09:08,005 Speaker 1: And when he poured the alcohol into the cup, the 145 00:09:08,085 --> 00:09:13,245 Speaker 1: styrofoam bottom melted instantly. I can't remember what chemical reaction 146 00:09:13,445 --> 00:09:16,205 Speaker 1: caused the cup to melt, but I can remember that, 147 00:09:16,565 --> 00:09:19,845 Speaker 1: far from being deterred by the potential danger, the kids 148 00:09:19,845 --> 00:09:23,565 Speaker 1: in my class had the opposite reaction. Strong plus cheap 149 00:09:23,765 --> 00:09:37,325 Speaker 1: equals a maximum buzz for minimum cost. Shortly after saying 150 00:09:37,325 --> 00:09:40,845 Speaker 1: goodbye to her friend Leslie, Jane heads to the town square. 151 00:09:41,645 --> 00:09:44,405 Speaker 1: They're in the Daisy Queen were the main spots where 152 00:09:44,485 --> 00:09:48,605 Speaker 1: teens would hang around on the weekends. Janie's friend Ron 153 00:09:48,685 --> 00:09:51,445 Speaker 1: Rose is driving around the town square in his truck. 154 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:56,085 Speaker 1: He's with Kim, another friend. Jane asked them for a 155 00:09:56,205 --> 00:09:58,925 Speaker 1: ride to the party. Should be a swarm statement of 156 00:09:59,085 --> 00:10:03,605 Speaker 1: Ron Dale Rose, twenty years old. This is Ron Rose, 157 00:10:04,165 --> 00:10:07,765 Speaker 1: not to be confused with Janie's died Ron Ward. How 158 00:10:07,805 --> 00:10:12,765 Speaker 1: did how did Olivia act when he first talked her 159 00:10:12,805 --> 00:10:14,925 Speaker 1: out there on the square? Did that she's doing a 160 00:10:14,925 --> 00:10:19,085 Speaker 1: pretty good movie. When she was talking being really happy, 161 00:10:19,365 --> 00:10:22,045 Speaker 1: do you remember anything in particular if she talked about 162 00:10:22,525 --> 00:10:26,485 Speaker 1: what you got to the bar? I really I just 163 00:10:26,645 --> 00:10:28,245 Speaker 1: wondered who all was going to be down there and 164 00:10:28,325 --> 00:10:32,165 Speaker 1: what was doing on? Okay, so you and Olivia and 165 00:10:32,565 --> 00:10:35,765 Speaker 1: Kim went to the party together. Ron says the three 166 00:10:35,805 --> 00:10:37,885 Speaker 1: of them got to the party around five point thirty 167 00:10:38,005 --> 00:10:41,725 Speaker 1: or six pm. Soon after that, more people start arriving. 168 00:10:42,565 --> 00:10:45,125 Speaker 1: Here's Gary Donn, the twenty two year old who bought 169 00:10:45,165 --> 00:10:48,165 Speaker 1: the alcohol, and we in associated with a few people, 170 00:10:48,565 --> 00:10:53,165 Speaker 1: and I seen Jane, and there's more. There's more people 171 00:10:53,365 --> 00:10:56,525 Speaker 1: and went on into the house, went there and there 172 00:10:56,605 --> 00:10:59,125 Speaker 1: was people doing different things. There's people who listened to 173 00:10:59,165 --> 00:11:02,725 Speaker 1: this ORYA. Only there's people in the kitchen, and there's 174 00:11:02,765 --> 00:11:05,165 Speaker 1: some people out there that had ferried out there as 175 00:11:05,685 --> 00:11:07,925 Speaker 1: messing with the There's more people out in the backyard. 176 00:11:07,925 --> 00:11:10,885 Speaker 1: And I'm or less walked on through one housesosiated with 177 00:11:10,925 --> 00:11:14,245 Speaker 1: a few more than people. Multiple witnesses see Janey at 178 00:11:14,285 --> 00:11:17,365 Speaker 1: the party. Some people say they saw Jane drinking the 179 00:11:17,445 --> 00:11:21,085 Speaker 1: PGA punch, chewing on a few pieces of fruit, the 180 00:11:21,165 --> 00:11:24,885 Speaker 1: one soaked and rubbing alcohol. But no one at the 181 00:11:24,965 --> 00:11:27,445 Speaker 1: party is paying close attention to what Janie is doing. 182 00:11:28,445 --> 00:11:30,885 Speaker 1: A lot of partygoers said they talked with Jane, but 183 00:11:30,965 --> 00:11:34,205 Speaker 1: they don't remember what they talked about. People say she 184 00:11:34,365 --> 00:11:37,125 Speaker 1: was sitting on Ron Roses truck's tailgate, or on a 185 00:11:37,205 --> 00:11:40,445 Speaker 1: couch on the front porch, she was leaning against a post, 186 00:11:40,765 --> 00:11:43,045 Speaker 1: or sitting on the rail of the porch. No one 187 00:11:43,165 --> 00:11:47,885 Speaker 1: knows for sure. According to the National Weather Service, sunset 188 00:11:47,965 --> 00:11:51,525 Speaker 1: on September ninth, nineteen eighty nine was at seven twenty 189 00:11:51,605 --> 00:11:55,485 Speaker 1: seven pm, and that's around the time that all hell 190 00:11:55,565 --> 00:12:00,125 Speaker 1: breaks loose. Depending on who you ask, two things happen 191 00:12:00,245 --> 00:12:05,085 Speaker 1: simultaneously or one after the other. Janie falls and someone 192 00:12:05,165 --> 00:12:07,525 Speaker 1: shout that the party is about to get busted by 193 00:12:07,565 --> 00:12:12,245 Speaker 1: the cops. Even though it didn't have electricity, the cabin 194 00:12:12,325 --> 00:12:15,685 Speaker 1: had a phone. It's called a party line, and it 195 00:12:15,845 --> 00:12:18,845 Speaker 1: was a common sight in rural Arkansas during the eighties. 196 00:12:20,045 --> 00:12:22,645 Speaker 1: A party line is a phone line where you're able 197 00:12:22,725 --> 00:12:25,245 Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and listen in on conversations 198 00:12:25,285 --> 00:12:28,725 Speaker 1: happening nearby. If you want to use the phone to 199 00:12:28,805 --> 00:12:31,245 Speaker 1: call out, you usually have to wait for another person 200 00:12:31,285 --> 00:12:34,645 Speaker 1: to hang up and someone at the party. No one 201 00:12:34,765 --> 00:12:37,885 Speaker 1: is sure who heard a neighbor calling the cop on duty, 202 00:12:38,005 --> 00:12:40,485 Speaker 1: Joey Pruett, and telling him a bunch of kids were 203 00:12:40,485 --> 00:12:43,885 Speaker 1: having a party with alcohol. The neighbor also complained that 204 00:12:43,965 --> 00:12:46,045 Speaker 1: the party goers ran her off the road as they 205 00:12:46,125 --> 00:12:50,845 Speaker 1: zoomed up to the cabin. Of all the people at 206 00:12:50,885 --> 00:12:54,605 Speaker 1: the party, only three say they actually saw Janie fall. 207 00:12:55,325 --> 00:12:59,045 Speaker 1: Garyed on a cheerleader named Sarah and Billy, the high 208 00:12:59,045 --> 00:13:02,885 Speaker 1: school quarterback. Sarah said that she was on the porch 209 00:13:03,205 --> 00:13:06,805 Speaker 1: when Janey sort of twisted sideway then just fell on back. 210 00:13:07,765 --> 00:13:11,125 Speaker 1: In Billy's statement, he says, she just came straight back 211 00:13:11,245 --> 00:13:15,045 Speaker 1: like a tree. Gary Donn was socializing on the porch, 212 00:13:15,805 --> 00:13:19,485 Speaker 1: so I looked away, and then I was more or 213 00:13:19,565 --> 00:13:21,565 Speaker 1: less glass back in this in fly. I mean I 214 00:13:21,725 --> 00:13:25,005 Speaker 1: called her in flight, is what I'm saying. I mean 215 00:13:25,085 --> 00:13:27,685 Speaker 1: she was falling when I looked, and I mean just 216 00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:32,285 Speaker 1: happened that quick. This, I mean, all that right there 217 00:13:32,925 --> 00:13:36,245 Speaker 1: we've been talking about happened more or less in just 218 00:13:36,325 --> 00:13:40,565 Speaker 1: a little wat. I mean she fell. I mean somebody hollered. 219 00:13:40,685 --> 00:13:43,485 Speaker 1: Joy Prut was coming, That's what I heard. Joey Prutt 220 00:13:43,565 --> 00:13:46,005 Speaker 1: was the police officer supposedly coming to bust the party. 221 00:13:46,165 --> 00:13:48,805 Speaker 1: But and then people started scattering running by her. And 222 00:13:48,925 --> 00:13:51,445 Speaker 1: that's more or less whenever I really started paying attention 223 00:13:51,565 --> 00:13:54,205 Speaker 1: to her, because I mean, I couldn't get nobody to 224 00:13:54,245 --> 00:13:55,965 Speaker 1: help me. I didn't know if she was knocked out 225 00:13:56,125 --> 00:13:59,605 Speaker 1: or what or really hurt or anything. I knew when 226 00:13:59,645 --> 00:14:02,165 Speaker 1: I got down there and turned her head over, safety 227 00:14:02,205 --> 00:14:04,205 Speaker 1: busted her head over. That's the first thing I did. 228 00:14:05,005 --> 00:14:08,005 Speaker 1: I mean, I try and save our head was much 229 00:14:08,045 --> 00:14:10,005 Speaker 1: the over good. I thought her, she might knock yourself out. 230 00:14:11,085 --> 00:14:13,045 Speaker 1: It's me and somebody lift her up on the porch 231 00:14:13,085 --> 00:14:15,285 Speaker 1: j in the light, because the porch just kind of 232 00:14:15,325 --> 00:14:17,645 Speaker 1: had her face shaving and stuff. It had her shaved 233 00:14:17,965 --> 00:14:20,085 Speaker 1: a little bit, and we raised her up in the 234 00:14:20,165 --> 00:14:22,245 Speaker 1: light where we could really see her, pay attention to her. 235 00:14:22,845 --> 00:14:27,885 Speaker 1: And basically from that, this payple is going wild. The 236 00:14:27,965 --> 00:14:30,725 Speaker 1: thing no one can agree on is how long Janie 237 00:14:30,805 --> 00:14:33,605 Speaker 1: was laying on the ground. Gary don makes it seem 238 00:14:33,685 --> 00:14:36,005 Speaker 1: like it was less than a minute, but Billy said 239 00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:38,365 Speaker 1: it was more like fifteen to twenty minutes before anyone 240 00:14:38,445 --> 00:14:43,605 Speaker 1: moved her. So this is the Billy Harris statement. Yeah, 241 00:14:43,645 --> 00:14:46,365 Speaker 1: this is brutal. Kim Weddie went over to Janie and 242 00:14:46,405 --> 00:14:48,925 Speaker 1: said she had passed out. I never saw anybody else 243 00:14:48,965 --> 00:14:50,805 Speaker 1: go over to her. I went back in the house 244 00:14:50,845 --> 00:14:53,445 Speaker 1: and talked with Jason, Matthew Brian. She probably laid there 245 00:14:53,525 --> 00:14:57,645 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty minutes before anybody moved her. Me, Jamie, Gail, 246 00:14:57,765 --> 00:14:59,885 Speaker 1: and Gary Donn moved her to the back of Ron's truck. 247 00:15:00,565 --> 00:15:02,325 Speaker 1: I don't think she was ever moved onto the porch. 248 00:15:02,845 --> 00:15:04,925 Speaker 1: Jamie and Gil said she needed to go to a doctor. 249 00:15:05,085 --> 00:15:06,725 Speaker 1: I noticed that's when I came back outside, that she 250 00:15:06,805 --> 00:15:08,925 Speaker 1: had a bowel movement. I could see that her pants 251 00:15:08,965 --> 00:15:10,925 Speaker 1: were wet and she was having a hard time breathing. 252 00:15:11,605 --> 00:15:13,525 Speaker 1: Rose and Kim were in the cab of his truck, 253 00:15:13,725 --> 00:15:15,965 Speaker 1: and Rose said there was no room for Janie except 254 00:15:16,005 --> 00:15:18,045 Speaker 1: in the back. I offered to ride with her in 255 00:15:18,125 --> 00:15:20,365 Speaker 1: the back, but Rose said no, he didn't want any 256 00:15:20,405 --> 00:15:22,565 Speaker 1: trouble with the wall. I offered to get a blanket, 257 00:15:22,605 --> 00:15:24,805 Speaker 1: and he said no, she'd be all right. I believe 258 00:15:24,885 --> 00:15:26,765 Speaker 1: she moved her arm across her chest and we'd put 259 00:15:26,765 --> 00:15:28,805 Speaker 1: her in the truck. She never said anything else that 260 00:15:28,885 --> 00:15:31,165 Speaker 1: I heard. Janie was on the ground fifteen to twenty 261 00:15:31,205 --> 00:15:33,965 Speaker 1: minutes before someone said the police was coming. Everyone just 262 00:15:34,005 --> 00:15:40,125 Speaker 1: thought she was drunk and and passed out. Once everyone 263 00:15:40,285 --> 00:15:44,565 Speaker 1: found out the cops were coming, people started panicking. Gary 264 00:15:44,645 --> 00:15:49,365 Speaker 1: Dahn said, everyone was running around like maniacs. They see 265 00:15:49,485 --> 00:15:53,245 Speaker 1: Janie soil herself. At this point, they know she's in 266 00:15:53,365 --> 00:15:58,805 Speaker 1: serious trouble, maybe dying. The decision was made to put 267 00:15:58,925 --> 00:16:05,365 Speaker 1: Janie into the back of Ron Rose's truck. Ron, Kim, 268 00:16:05,685 --> 00:16:09,725 Speaker 1: and Sherry, another friend, got in the front. They started 269 00:16:09,765 --> 00:16:13,605 Speaker 1: the three mile drive on rural roads to marshall'stown Square. 270 00:16:14,605 --> 00:16:17,165 Speaker 1: At first, no one is sitting in the back of 271 00:16:17,205 --> 00:16:20,045 Speaker 1: the truck with Jane during the rocky ride back to town, 272 00:16:20,805 --> 00:16:24,005 Speaker 1: until Kim opens the window of the truck cab and 273 00:16:24,125 --> 00:16:28,645 Speaker 1: climbs into the back to check on Jane. As Ron 274 00:16:28,765 --> 00:16:33,165 Speaker 1: zoomed down Highway sixty five, he passed another friend, Carla Brightwell. 275 00:16:34,125 --> 00:16:36,525 Speaker 1: She flashed her lights at his truck and when he 276 00:16:36,565 --> 00:16:39,685 Speaker 1: didn't slow down, she thought something must be wrong, so 277 00:16:39,845 --> 00:16:43,365 Speaker 1: she followed him. They ended up at the bank parking lot. 278 00:16:44,605 --> 00:16:47,845 Speaker 1: At this point, Carla said, Ron and the girls were 279 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:51,565 Speaker 1: arguing about whether Jane was just passed out and whether 280 00:16:51,685 --> 00:16:54,165 Speaker 1: or not they should take her home. I heard somebody 281 00:16:54,245 --> 00:16:57,085 Speaker 1: say she's called, you know, and Dennie Wynn got a 282 00:16:57,245 --> 00:17:04,365 Speaker 1: jacket at somebody's car and put over Jane and someone 283 00:17:04,445 --> 00:17:08,805 Speaker 1: said she hadn't I already seen her move, that she 284 00:17:08,925 --> 00:17:12,725 Speaker 1: fell off the porch, and I kind of thought, right then, 285 00:17:12,845 --> 00:17:15,605 Speaker 1: though she fell off, of course she hadn't moved, you know, 286 00:17:15,725 --> 00:17:18,965 Speaker 1: like all these end runs in my head. So Pam 287 00:17:19,045 --> 00:17:21,605 Speaker 1: and I went over to her, and we were trying 288 00:17:21,645 --> 00:17:24,245 Speaker 1: to feel her pulse, you know, because you know from 289 00:17:24,285 --> 00:17:25,645 Speaker 1: when I said of like, you know, fell off of 290 00:17:25,725 --> 00:17:28,005 Speaker 1: what I thought, maybe she's look for her, that's what 291 00:17:28,165 --> 00:17:31,765 Speaker 1: you bag what I thought. Carla took control. She told 292 00:17:31,845 --> 00:17:34,725 Speaker 1: Beach that she felt for a pulse and thought she 293 00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:37,925 Speaker 1: might have found one, but she since decided that what 294 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:41,925 Speaker 1: she felt was her own pulse. She picked up Janie's arm. 295 00:17:42,765 --> 00:17:46,005 Speaker 1: It felt cold. I knew enough to know to go 296 00:17:46,125 --> 00:17:51,365 Speaker 1: get somebody that might know what to do, but they 297 00:17:51,405 --> 00:17:53,325 Speaker 1: don't train. You didn't know what to do to pull 298 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:54,765 Speaker 1: up in a bag of the truck and there's a 299 00:17:54,845 --> 00:17:56,605 Speaker 1: girl lay in there and you don't have a certainty. 300 00:17:56,805 --> 00:17:59,205 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know what to do, true, and 301 00:17:59,965 --> 00:18:01,645 Speaker 1: I need to get help somebody that didn't know what 302 00:18:01,725 --> 00:18:05,365 Speaker 1: they were doing. So Carla had run across the street 303 00:18:05,565 --> 00:18:09,485 Speaker 1: the ambulance service to alert them of Jane's condition. J D. 304 00:18:09,645 --> 00:18:12,525 Speaker 1: Beeson was the ambulance driver and manager of the ambulance 305 00:18:12,565 --> 00:18:16,005 Speaker 1: service at the time. He and his wife, Kathy, a 306 00:18:16,125 --> 00:18:19,765 Speaker 1: licensed LPN, arrived on the scene and would later testify 307 00:18:20,005 --> 00:18:23,605 Speaker 1: that Jane was lying on her right side. In a statement, 308 00:18:23,725 --> 00:18:27,005 Speaker 1: Cathy said, we checked and rechecked for needle marks at 309 00:18:27,005 --> 00:18:31,325 Speaker 1: the request of the sheriff. Coarse sand, dry leaves, and 310 00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:34,405 Speaker 1: small twigs were found at the blouse neck and the 311 00:18:34,485 --> 00:18:38,325 Speaker 1: LEVI waste. Coarse sand was found on the abdomen under 312 00:18:38,365 --> 00:18:42,605 Speaker 1: the bra Cathy said this immediately led her to conclude 313 00:18:43,005 --> 00:18:47,365 Speaker 1: this was a suspicious death, not an accidental death. Another 314 00:18:47,445 --> 00:18:51,045 Speaker 1: employee of the ambulance service stepped in. He stated that 315 00:18:51,125 --> 00:18:54,925 Speaker 1: he noticed something else, a strong odor of alcohol on Jane. 316 00:18:56,125 --> 00:18:59,005 Speaker 1: That's odd because it doesn't match witness statements at the 317 00:18:59,045 --> 00:19:02,165 Speaker 1: party who said that she wasn't drinking heavily. One of 318 00:19:02,205 --> 00:19:05,645 Speaker 1: the paramedics who examined Janie remembers seeing a black back 319 00:19:05,765 --> 00:19:09,925 Speaker 1: def leopard T shirt over a white pinstriped shirt. She 320 00:19:10,005 --> 00:19:12,445 Speaker 1: remembers having to unbutton and roll up the shirt in 321 00:19:12,565 --> 00:19:17,845 Speaker 1: order to get to Janie's body. Meanwhile, many of the 322 00:19:17,925 --> 00:19:21,165 Speaker 1: kids who had left the party congregated at the Daisy Queen. 323 00:19:22,165 --> 00:19:24,325 Speaker 1: All of them were talking about what happened to Jane. 324 00:19:25,845 --> 00:19:27,685 Speaker 1: A lot of them came to the Bank parking lot, 325 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:32,445 Speaker 1: where a huge crowd gathered around Jane's lifeless body. By 326 00:19:32,525 --> 00:19:36,485 Speaker 1: this point, half the town is there. It even makes 327 00:19:36,565 --> 00:19:40,485 Speaker 1: the evening news, but her parents Ron and Mona still 328 00:19:40,645 --> 00:19:44,525 Speaker 1: have no idea what has happened to their daughter. Jane 329 00:19:44,685 --> 00:19:49,325 Speaker 1: is pronounced dead at eight forty five pm. We'll be 330 00:19:49,485 --> 00:20:06,965 Speaker 1: right back on the night Jane he died. Bill Beach 331 00:20:07,125 --> 00:20:10,045 Speaker 1: interviews four of the people at the party, Gary Dawn, 332 00:20:10,445 --> 00:20:15,765 Speaker 1: Kim Jay, and Ron Rose. He then asked the sheriff 333 00:20:15,845 --> 00:20:21,085 Speaker 1: to send everyone home. Over the next few days, the 334 00:20:21,165 --> 00:20:24,885 Speaker 1: sheriff collects statements from the kids at school. Beach then 335 00:20:25,005 --> 00:20:29,205 Speaker 1: interviews thirty people. Over the next few months, he reinterviews 336 00:20:29,285 --> 00:20:32,445 Speaker 1: some of the key witnesses. As I read through his interviews, 337 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:36,725 Speaker 1: several things start to bug me. A lot of the 338 00:20:36,805 --> 00:20:40,205 Speaker 1: statements collected from people at the party are incredibly short 339 00:20:40,645 --> 00:20:43,845 Speaker 1: and don't provide much detail, and they spend half the 340 00:20:43,925 --> 00:20:46,485 Speaker 1: time talking about who provided the booze for the party. 341 00:20:47,805 --> 00:20:52,925 Speaker 1: And over the months people's answers change. The cheerleader Sarah 342 00:20:53,525 --> 00:20:55,725 Speaker 1: changes her answers of who she was at the party with, 343 00:20:56,325 --> 00:20:59,725 Speaker 1: and also adds a story about Janie, calling her a snob. 344 00:21:01,365 --> 00:21:04,965 Speaker 1: Gary Don initially said he saw Janie fall, but later 345 00:21:05,325 --> 00:21:08,245 Speaker 1: in a reenactment video done by the Arkansas State Police, 346 00:21:08,845 --> 00:21:13,565 Speaker 1: he demonstrated how Janey was likely to have fallen. It's strange. 347 00:21:14,485 --> 00:21:17,165 Speaker 1: A couple of other partygoers also said they heard a 348 00:21:17,245 --> 00:21:22,245 Speaker 1: thud when Jane fell, and then a statement from a 349 00:21:22,325 --> 00:21:27,725 Speaker 1: police dispatcher named Harold Young throws everything off. Ron, Rose, Kim, 350 00:21:28,045 --> 00:21:30,845 Speaker 1: and Sherry all said they drove from the cabin to 351 00:21:30,965 --> 00:21:34,565 Speaker 1: the parking lot without stopping, but the dispatcher at the 352 00:21:34,645 --> 00:21:37,885 Speaker 1: police station that night said Ron came by the sheriff's 353 00:21:37,925 --> 00:21:40,605 Speaker 1: department at six thirty pm to tell him there was 354 00:21:40,605 --> 00:21:43,285 Speaker 1: an injured girl in the back of his truck. The 355 00:21:43,365 --> 00:21:46,925 Speaker 1: dispatcher's statement was notarized, and he confirmed what he said 356 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:51,685 Speaker 1: years later during another investigation into Janie's death. So, depending 357 00:21:51,725 --> 00:21:54,365 Speaker 1: on how you read the witness statements and who you believe, 358 00:21:55,125 --> 00:21:57,805 Speaker 1: the time between Janie falling and being in the Bank 359 00:21:57,925 --> 00:22:01,325 Speaker 1: parking lot could either have been half an hour or 360 00:22:01,405 --> 00:22:05,805 Speaker 1: more than ninety minutes. The order of events and how 361 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:08,285 Speaker 1: much time passed between them becomes one of the most 362 00:22:08,325 --> 00:22:11,765 Speaker 1: hot button issues throughout the last thirty years of investigations. 363 00:22:12,845 --> 00:22:15,245 Speaker 1: We thought having all of these statements available to us 364 00:22:15,365 --> 00:22:18,485 Speaker 1: would be an advantage in figuring out this case, but 365 00:22:18,605 --> 00:22:22,765 Speaker 1: it's leading me to even more questions what could have 366 00:22:22,885 --> 00:22:26,125 Speaker 1: happened in those ninety missing minutes. This is one of 367 00:22:26,165 --> 00:22:30,245 Speaker 1: the recurring questions that the journalists Mike Masterson asks in 368 00:22:30,365 --> 00:22:35,445 Speaker 1: his columns about Jane. After Jane died, the Ward family 369 00:22:35,565 --> 00:22:38,485 Speaker 1: heard plenty of troubling stories about what could have happened 370 00:22:38,565 --> 00:22:41,805 Speaker 1: during that missing time. Well, and that's why Jamie and 371 00:22:41,965 --> 00:22:44,925 Speaker 1: the Brose boy after they've directed to go to the 372 00:22:44,965 --> 00:22:48,445 Speaker 1: macparking lots so Janey could be discovered there. That's why 373 00:22:48,525 --> 00:22:50,885 Speaker 1: they were sitting there debating on whether to take Jennie's 374 00:22:51,005 --> 00:22:54,445 Speaker 1: body to us so Ronnie could take it from there 375 00:22:54,685 --> 00:22:57,125 Speaker 1: instead of them going along with their cover up. So 376 00:22:57,205 --> 00:22:59,005 Speaker 1: they didn't know what to do. Well, they also took 377 00:22:59,005 --> 00:23:01,085 Speaker 1: her to the Mac parking lot because there is a 378 00:23:01,445 --> 00:23:05,085 Speaker 1: car wash there and that's where they redwashed her body 379 00:23:05,085 --> 00:23:08,645 Speaker 1: and marsh they were directed to take hersh her off 380 00:23:09,045 --> 00:23:11,605 Speaker 1: and wait at the bank parking lot until they could 381 00:23:11,645 --> 00:23:14,485 Speaker 1: come and discover her. Did they ever explained why she 382 00:23:14,685 --> 00:23:16,285 Speaker 1: was wet and where her hair was wet and where 383 00:23:16,325 --> 00:23:22,805 Speaker 1: there was sand in her clothes? I mean no, no, no, 384 00:23:22,965 --> 00:23:27,365 Speaker 1: that was never addressed. Yeah, I just rumors and witnesses 385 00:23:27,485 --> 00:23:29,485 Speaker 1: claiming that they washed her now with the water hose 386 00:23:29,525 --> 00:23:32,405 Speaker 1: at the car lot or the car wash in the 387 00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:35,765 Speaker 1: bank parking lot. And when you say witnesses, was it 388 00:23:35,845 --> 00:23:38,525 Speaker 1: people in the official report? Who so it was? This 389 00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:42,805 Speaker 1: is like people talking beyond these missing minutes. What confuses 390 00:23:42,885 --> 00:23:45,565 Speaker 1: me the most is the statements from the ambulance service 391 00:23:45,605 --> 00:23:50,645 Speaker 1: attendants JD and Kathy. First of all, it took Bill 392 00:23:50,725 --> 00:23:53,605 Speaker 1: Beach more than three months to interview them, and that 393 00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:57,165 Speaker 1: was after they requested he talk to them. They were 394 00:23:57,245 --> 00:24:00,045 Speaker 1: so concerned they even compiled their own statements to deliver 395 00:24:00,165 --> 00:24:05,645 Speaker 1: to him. Talked to hit This is an interview you 396 00:24:05,725 --> 00:24:09,045 Speaker 1: that Ron Ward did with j D and Kathy. As 397 00:24:09,085 --> 00:24:13,045 Speaker 1: Beach does his investigation, Ron has started his own would 398 00:24:13,045 --> 00:24:15,925 Speaker 1: you like my opinion? And this is just speculation? Okay? 399 00:24:15,965 --> 00:24:18,285 Speaker 1: I thank somebody throwing the damn river and picked her up. 400 00:24:18,365 --> 00:24:20,365 Speaker 1: Work took to a carb wars and holder or something, 401 00:24:21,165 --> 00:24:23,485 Speaker 1: But the investigators haven't him talked to Cat and I yet, 402 00:24:23,525 --> 00:24:27,085 Speaker 1: and I asked him. I asked Carold Young the other night, 403 00:24:28,445 --> 00:24:31,685 Speaker 1: those investigators question Cat and I. We were the first 404 00:24:31,725 --> 00:24:34,765 Speaker 1: ones on the scene. Jad and Kathy confirmed some of 405 00:24:34,805 --> 00:24:37,445 Speaker 1: the things Ron saw when he saw Janie's body at 406 00:24:37,485 --> 00:24:41,605 Speaker 1: the Morgan Marshall, like the sand and twigs. They said 407 00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:45,045 Speaker 1: they hadn't noticed bruising, but in their notarized statement to 408 00:24:45,085 --> 00:24:48,805 Speaker 1: Bill Beach, they did remark on swelling on Janie's neck 409 00:24:48,885 --> 00:24:52,725 Speaker 1: and shoulder. They also said she was wet except for 410 00:24:52,805 --> 00:24:56,845 Speaker 1: her genital area, which doesn't make any sense because multiple 411 00:24:56,885 --> 00:25:01,565 Speaker 1: witnesses at the party specifically said Janie wet herself. The 412 00:25:01,685 --> 00:25:05,005 Speaker 1: paramedics also noted that Jane had a foamy substance coming 413 00:25:05,005 --> 00:25:07,285 Speaker 1: out of her I bet there was one hundred kids 414 00:25:07,325 --> 00:25:10,245 Speaker 1: over there, and the first thing I did had John Childers. 415 00:25:10,245 --> 00:25:11,765 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know him or not. I 416 00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:14,005 Speaker 1: hadn't chase everybody away from the truck. You know, they're 417 00:25:14,085 --> 00:25:15,765 Speaker 1: twenty five feet back. That's the first thing to do. 418 00:25:16,045 --> 00:25:19,605 Speaker 1: While she was checking them. You I feel funny talking 419 00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:25,085 Speaker 1: about this, and funny Ron, I'm sorry. Quick, So then 420 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:28,645 Speaker 1: Kathy check her he had no radio pulse, she had 421 00:25:28,685 --> 00:25:32,605 Speaker 1: no karate pulse. Her eyes were dialing really large. I 422 00:25:32,685 --> 00:25:35,685 Speaker 1: think we told you about that. And she had no 423 00:25:35,885 --> 00:25:38,405 Speaker 1: visible bruises whatsoever on her body from the way stuff 424 00:25:38,845 --> 00:25:40,685 Speaker 1: the other thing we found on herbs and twigs and 425 00:25:40,765 --> 00:25:44,285 Speaker 1: leaves and sandy gravel, you know, like we told you. 426 00:25:44,725 --> 00:25:47,925 Speaker 1: Stuff down here and the back of the riches here 427 00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:52,685 Speaker 1: and there was poor fans all and she was wet 428 00:25:53,205 --> 00:25:55,805 Speaker 1: as is, like somebody dropped in a river or something 429 00:25:55,845 --> 00:25:58,765 Speaker 1: and picked it back up. As we saw in Rebecca's case, 430 00:25:59,365 --> 00:26:04,485 Speaker 1: memory can be unreliable, and like Rebecca's, Janie's case quickly 431 00:26:04,565 --> 00:26:08,485 Speaker 1: began to become a question of who remembered what people forget, 432 00:26:09,365 --> 00:26:11,525 Speaker 1: and the more time that has passed since an incident, 433 00:26:11,965 --> 00:26:14,685 Speaker 1: the more likely it is for people to incorporate rumor 434 00:26:14,845 --> 00:26:22,765 Speaker 1: into what they remember. This is a phone call between 435 00:26:22,925 --> 00:26:25,885 Speaker 1: Ron Ward and Bill Beach. It was included in the 436 00:26:25,965 --> 00:26:31,165 Speaker 1: original police case file. Cool Roy, Bill Beach. So you're 437 00:26:31,165 --> 00:26:34,805 Speaker 1: doing just fine there you okay, my lieutenant, Come and 438 00:26:35,685 --> 00:26:39,765 Speaker 1: tell me that you had some more names. Oh, yes, 439 00:26:40,685 --> 00:26:44,085 Speaker 1: I do, okay. Ron is providing names for Beach to 440 00:26:44,165 --> 00:26:48,205 Speaker 1: follow up on. This phone call is fifteen minutes long. Well, 441 00:26:48,285 --> 00:26:50,405 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, though, Ronn, is do you have all 442 00:26:50,485 --> 00:26:53,725 Speaker 1: this documentary? Is it? Would it be offered for me 443 00:26:53,765 --> 00:26:56,205 Speaker 1: to get copies though, so I can compare them. I 444 00:26:56,285 --> 00:26:58,645 Speaker 1: can go through and check the names and compare it 445 00:26:58,725 --> 00:27:01,565 Speaker 1: to what they have told me, you know, And I'd say, 446 00:27:01,565 --> 00:27:03,765 Speaker 1: if there's people that I haven't talked to, that haven't 447 00:27:03,805 --> 00:27:06,085 Speaker 1: been interviewed, and I can go back and I can 448 00:27:06,165 --> 00:27:09,085 Speaker 1: do that, or if it's people that have been interviewed 449 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:11,645 Speaker 1: that have given contrary and information that I can reinterview 450 00:27:12,085 --> 00:27:15,045 Speaker 1: from what we can tell this call that was included 451 00:27:15,045 --> 00:27:17,645 Speaker 1: in the official police file was very soft. And have 452 00:27:17,725 --> 00:27:20,565 Speaker 1: you got tape conversations with manage people? What I don't. 453 00:27:20,645 --> 00:27:22,685 Speaker 1: I don't expect you'd given the original takes, But it 454 00:27:22,925 --> 00:27:25,205 Speaker 1: would it be possible for some one time to desicateto 455 00:27:26,125 --> 00:27:29,605 Speaker 1: and let me get copies of the duskis ron also 456 00:27:29,725 --> 00:27:33,325 Speaker 1: recorded some calls with Arkansas State Police officers where he 457 00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:36,325 Speaker 1: starts venting his frustration about what he feels to be 458 00:27:36,645 --> 00:27:40,445 Speaker 1: Beach's lack of progress on the case. Ron how are 459 00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:43,325 Speaker 1: you okay? I've been up here all day and I 460 00:27:43,445 --> 00:27:45,845 Speaker 1: talked to Philip Christy and I told him must coming 461 00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,165 Speaker 1: and I've been working on some mothers things. He said 462 00:27:48,205 --> 00:27:53,765 Speaker 1: you had take for him. You know what he's talking about. 463 00:27:54,965 --> 00:27:58,925 Speaker 1: Did he beend the merchant who he's worked with me? 464 00:27:59,965 --> 00:28:03,245 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, you know, but then 465 00:28:05,245 --> 00:28:09,885 Speaker 1: feel come over information money now, okaymation you bet, And 466 00:28:10,005 --> 00:28:14,485 Speaker 1: that's that's the only way I will do Okay. I mean, 467 00:28:14,605 --> 00:28:18,605 Speaker 1: he's the investigator. He's wanted to see, he is, He's 468 00:28:18,605 --> 00:28:22,885 Speaker 1: going first to investigate it, and I'm the father. Ron 469 00:28:22,965 --> 00:28:25,845 Speaker 1: is suggesting a trade with the police. He will hand 470 00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:28,605 Speaker 1: his interviews over to them if they will give him 471 00:28:28,645 --> 00:28:33,085 Speaker 1: more access to the information that they've collected. Tensions continue 472 00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:36,605 Speaker 1: to grow when Ron hears about Beach's interview with Gary Donn. 473 00:28:37,565 --> 00:28:41,045 Speaker 1: In it, Gary Donn complains about Ron. Ronnie calls my 474 00:28:41,165 --> 00:28:43,245 Speaker 1: mother all that is not called at one o'clock and 475 00:28:43,405 --> 00:28:45,765 Speaker 1: more than ask her where I was and if I 476 00:28:46,005 --> 00:28:48,925 Speaker 1: was all right? He calls me that already at a 477 00:28:49,005 --> 00:28:52,205 Speaker 1: million becomes old with not has. He says that Ron 478 00:28:52,325 --> 00:28:54,365 Speaker 1: is calling his mother at one in the morning, is 479 00:28:54,445 --> 00:28:58,165 Speaker 1: calling him and has come by his house. Beach even 480 00:28:58,245 --> 00:29:01,645 Speaker 1: says that Gary don can file charges against Ron. Ron 481 00:29:01,685 --> 00:29:04,165 Speaker 1: gets wind of this interview, and has also heard that 482 00:29:04,245 --> 00:29:06,805 Speaker 1: Beach has been asking about him and other witness interviews. 483 00:29:09,525 --> 00:29:13,605 Speaker 1: Ron calls the Arkansas State Police, I understand it. You're 484 00:29:13,645 --> 00:29:18,445 Speaker 1: see ID agent Bill Beats is running around town here 485 00:29:18,685 --> 00:29:23,005 Speaker 1: and get an information and trying to say that I'm 486 00:29:23,045 --> 00:29:26,725 Speaker 1: the one to beat my daughter up. That's the information 487 00:29:26,885 --> 00:29:32,165 Speaker 1: I have a chieve today. I do not appreciate that 488 00:29:32,525 --> 00:29:37,765 Speaker 1: one bit. What's this got to do with my daughter dying? 489 00:29:37,805 --> 00:29:40,085 Speaker 1: And they said I'm beating her up? You know, I 490 00:29:40,165 --> 00:29:46,005 Speaker 1: can't understand this. I really can't. Over all things I 491 00:29:46,085 --> 00:29:52,485 Speaker 1: can understand. You know, this is affecting my family life. 492 00:29:52,605 --> 00:29:58,925 Speaker 1: It's affect of my mind. It works on the people 493 00:29:59,925 --> 00:30:06,125 Speaker 1: in the whole county, the whole state. Everybody's undertune, everybody. 494 00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:09,645 Speaker 1: I'm wondering just what the hell this happened this time? 495 00:30:09,765 --> 00:30:14,725 Speaker 1: You know, mister Beechers, like I go before, said almost 496 00:30:14,765 --> 00:30:20,245 Speaker 1: the lucrous person. I'm not at all real luckily be 497 00:30:20,525 --> 00:30:23,885 Speaker 1: to handle this at all. It's been one hundred and 498 00:30:23,885 --> 00:30:28,605 Speaker 1: eighteen days to day, it's been one hundred and eighteen days, 499 00:30:28,685 --> 00:30:50,325 Speaker 1: he says, and no answers. You'll be right back. After 500 00:30:50,445 --> 00:30:54,045 Speaker 1: looking at Janie's case file, I'm left with plenty of questions. 501 00:30:56,645 --> 00:30:58,605 Speaker 1: Why didn't they put Janie in the front of the truck, 502 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:01,285 Speaker 1: and if she was in the back, why did no 503 00:31:01,365 --> 00:31:03,485 Speaker 1: one ride with her the entire way and hold her 504 00:31:03,525 --> 00:31:07,085 Speaker 1: hand If she had an in was it made worse 505 00:31:07,165 --> 00:31:10,965 Speaker 1: by riding in the back of that truck? Also? Why 506 00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:13,245 Speaker 1: was she left lying on the ground for so long? 507 00:31:14,965 --> 00:31:17,525 Speaker 1: One sixteen year old kid was insistent and said that 508 00:31:17,645 --> 00:31:20,405 Speaker 1: he needed to speak to investigators the night Janie died. 509 00:31:21,605 --> 00:31:23,845 Speaker 1: He said that Jannie was lying on the ground at 510 00:31:23,885 --> 00:31:26,285 Speaker 1: the party for much longer than a few minutes without 511 00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:29,525 Speaker 1: anyone getting help for her, and that they were focused 512 00:31:29,605 --> 00:31:33,485 Speaker 1: on cleaning up the beer. I get that they were scared, 513 00:31:34,205 --> 00:31:36,965 Speaker 1: but why didn't anyone help her? And why did some 514 00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:42,285 Speaker 1: people hear a thud when she fell? Also why was 515 00:31:42,365 --> 00:31:46,365 Speaker 1: she so wet? One statement said that someone threw beer 516 00:31:46,445 --> 00:31:49,245 Speaker 1: on her to try to revive her. That could account 517 00:31:49,285 --> 00:31:51,765 Speaker 1: for the strong odor of alcohol that paramedics said they 518 00:31:51,805 --> 00:31:54,165 Speaker 1: saw on her. But one witness who was in the 519 00:31:54,205 --> 00:31:56,765 Speaker 1: bank parking lot said they were called water gushing from 520 00:31:56,805 --> 00:32:00,205 Speaker 1: the back of ron Rose's truck. What was the root 521 00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:02,525 Speaker 1: of the truck from the party to the bank parking 522 00:32:02,565 --> 00:32:06,445 Speaker 1: lot In his statement, ron Rose said they decided to 523 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,645 Speaker 1: take Jane there because they thought it would be faster 524 00:32:08,765 --> 00:32:11,925 Speaker 1: than calling for help, and the bank parking lot was 525 00:32:12,005 --> 00:32:15,005 Speaker 1: close to the ambulance service. But why didn't they just 526 00:32:15,085 --> 00:32:18,605 Speaker 1: go directly to the ambulance service? And if we take 527 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:21,925 Speaker 1: the police dispatcher at his word, could they have taken 528 00:32:21,965 --> 00:32:27,645 Speaker 1: an alternative route? Did they make additional stops? Obviously there's 529 00:32:27,685 --> 00:32:30,445 Speaker 1: a lot we still need to figure out. But what 530 00:32:30,605 --> 00:32:33,605 Speaker 1: we do know is that in the months after Janie's death, 531 00:32:34,285 --> 00:32:39,085 Speaker 1: an environment of hostility is brewing in Marshall. The Wards 532 00:32:39,485 --> 00:32:42,645 Speaker 1: and a growing number of residents are starting to believe 533 00:32:42,925 --> 00:32:45,645 Speaker 1: that no one in the police department is telling the truth. 534 00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:51,805 Speaker 1: Fingers are getting pointed, and any remaining trust between citizens 535 00:32:51,925 --> 00:32:57,725 Speaker 1: and authorities is deteriorating. On December seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine, 536 00:32:58,365 --> 00:33:01,725 Speaker 1: a little over three months after Jane died, the Arkansas 537 00:33:01,765 --> 00:33:06,285 Speaker 1: Gazette runs a story with the headline teenagers death remains 538 00:33:06,325 --> 00:33:13,005 Speaker 1: a mystery. Parents call investigation a cover up. Rumors are flying, 539 00:33:14,165 --> 00:33:16,725 Speaker 1: So we need to take a step back and turn 540 00:33:16,805 --> 00:33:19,285 Speaker 1: to the one piece of evidence that Mike give us 541 00:33:19,285 --> 00:33:22,885 Speaker 1: some more reliable answers. We need to go back to 542 00:33:22,925 --> 00:33:25,765 Speaker 1: the case file and take a hard look at Jane's 543 00:33:25,765 --> 00:33:30,085 Speaker 1: autopsy and find out what happened at the Arkansas Crime Lab. 544 00:33:31,045 --> 00:33:42,165 Speaker 1: I'm Katherine Townsend and this is Helen Gone. Helen Gone 545 00:33:42,325 --> 00:33:45,885 Speaker 1: is a joint production between School of Humans and iHeartRadio. 546 00:33:46,645 --> 00:33:50,365 Speaker 1: It is written and recorded by me. Catherine Townsend. 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