1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs been in the Super Bowl basically since 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Moby Dick was a Guppy. They ain't looking like they're 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: gonna be back there this year. They fall to six 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: and seven on the season after losing last night at 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. They will now officially have zero chance 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: of winning the AFC West for the first time in 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: a decade, and their chances of making the postseason are 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: a blistering twelve percent. They'd have to win out and 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: need a thousand other things to break their way just 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. Right now, it's the official and 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: the crumbling of Chiefs Kingdom. 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: No doubt, and I want to go here. 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: And I told you Kelvin Washington, I told you a 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: couple listeners. I told you all you forty X players 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: who are analysts on television. I told you Patrick Mahomes 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: has not been the same guy for years now, and 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: people have continued to make excuses. Even last night, they're 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: still making excuses. Fourteen for thirty three, three interceptions, no touchdowns, 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: and you want to talk about. 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: Then you need a drafts O the drops. 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: I thought when he got all of his play wide 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: receivers back Kelvin, they were off and running. That's what 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: your contention was that it was because he didn't have 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: his guys. All of his wide receivers are healthy and 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: all playing. And guess what the last four games when 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: they needed him one touchdown and six interceptions. Why can't 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: we acknowledge? Oh did you see Kelsey? That wasn't a 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: well thrown baller was thrown behind him. Wait, he would 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: have if he made that catch, it would have been 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: a great catch. I had the nerve to listen to 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Dan Orlowsky this morning talk about he's the greatest player 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: on the planet since win. 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: You mean the guy didn't get. 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: One first place MVP vote despite going fifteen to one 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: as a starter last year. 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 5: Come on, you guys are living. 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: In the past. The Chiefs haven't been good. I know 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowl. I told you last 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: year they were lucky at Sin and it all caught up. 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: To him this year. 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any excuses about Patrick Mahomes. 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: He hasn't played well. Why can't we acknowledge that? Why 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: can't everybody else always excuses? 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: Oh Andy, we went four on fourth. 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Down on a thirty one yard Oh Chelsey, he hit 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: the ball hit him? Oh was she right? He dropped 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: the ball off for it. That That's all I heard. 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes didn't make every throw either. Did you watch 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: the game? Did you watch the highlights? He didn't make 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: all the throws and he hasn't been making the throws. 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 4: This has been a process. 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: That's why I said before the season that they wouldn't 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, not based on because some hate. Where's 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: all the Chiefs Kingdom people who were on Twitter that 62 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: I was washed, I was a washed reporter and I'm 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: a hater and I'm just looking for clicks. We're all 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: those guys. When I tried to tell you, yeah, I'm 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: sure you can't find those guys today because they didn't 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: want to hear it. 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: And I get it. 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: When you get into fandom, you can't look at stuff 69 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: fairly and honestly because you become jaded and you think 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: everything is everybody else's fault. The last thing for you, Kelvin, 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: the reason the Chiefs aren't going. 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: To the playoffs, are you ready? Is Patrick Mahomes. 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Not the defense which is seventh best in the NFL, 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: not the receivers, not Andy Reid. 75 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: It's Patrick Mahomes is to blame. 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: He is the reason why the Chiefs are not gonna 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And go to YouTube and go see 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: the video. I said a couple of weeks ago that 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: same thing. The reason the Chiefs won't make the playoffs 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: will be because of Patrick Mahomes and the. 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: Offense, and that's why they are where they are. 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 6: The Chiefs are playing bad football. There's no way around it. 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: They're playing bad football as an offensive unit. At times, 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 6: they're playing that being out coached. Andy Reid probably for 85 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 6: the first time in his life, has to admit that 86 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 6: that he has not been He's been out coaching. He 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 6: hasn't been coaching will Patrick Mahomes is missing passes that 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 6: he normally makes. Patrick Mahomes is forcing things. You got 89 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 6: guys who are dropping balls that normally don't. So this 90 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: is they look bad in totality, with the defense withstanding, 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 6: that might be the only unit that for the most 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 6: part of this whole season has looked good. 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: A couple of things. I don't agree with you on 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: number one. 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 6: I don't agree if you're saying this season, I'm with you. 96 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 6: But if you're saying including last year, I don't agree 97 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: with that. Last year, and obviously we talked about it 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 6: throughout the season. Last year, he was making those plays 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 6: that would get them to win. 100 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 5: He was making those third down comarade. 101 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to get an MVP vote if he was, 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: if he was making the plays that no, no, I'm 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: using your words. Yeah, if he made the plays that 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: helped him win fifteen go fifteen and one, why did 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: he not? Why did he not get one first place 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: MVP vote? Because you won't be able to answer it 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: because what you're saying is illogical. 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 6: That's first of all, it's factual. That's I don't even 109 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 6: know why you brought that up. That's proved. I was 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 6: telling you this all last year. He was the highest 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 6: third down conversion by far last year and even half 112 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 6: of the season. So he makes the play, the winning 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: play that's not debatable. We're talking about last season. You 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: asked why didn't get an MVP vote. 115 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: Because Lamar Jackson. You remember I set up here and 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: said it right sext to you that he's the best player. 117 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were insane last year. So 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 6: him being fifteen to two and winging the Super Bowl, 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 6: getting to the Super doesn't mean he had to be 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: the m v P. 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 5: Him making third down conversions. 122 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: They were limitedlessly from what I said, he made the 123 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: winning To listen to what I said, I'm talking about, 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: so one in one vote, not just win the MVP 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: answered question. 126 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 5: And winning because the other got. 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: One vote, because the other guys, including Joe Burrow. 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: No, we're insane. He got in all him and watched him. 129 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: They went they were fifteen and one in Mahomes' starts. 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Because you just not why he just because I thought 131 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: it was winning. 132 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 6: You know you answer questions, okay, so that if you 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: could ask, let me answer. So like I said, it's 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 6: because he only made a handful of plays each game. 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: Lamar was making fifteen to twenty, Josh Allen was making 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 6: fifteen to twenty, Joe Burrow's making ten to fifteen a game. 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 6: That's why he realized with his defense kept him in games. 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: Don't turn over too much stick around. I can make 139 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 6: a player or two, and that is why those play 140 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 6: or two aren't working this year. Those guys that make 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: plays aside from him, it's not working this year. So 142 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 6: they'll denying it and they have to go to the 143 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 6: drawing board and figure out what's next. Andy Reid has 144 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 6: to figure out what next, the designing of the plays. 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes has to go to the drawing board and 146 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 6: realize what I'm doing isn't working. They absolutely have to 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 6: look at house guys. They may have to start. Chris 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 6: Jones has played really well yesterday. Can we get some form? 149 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: Can we trade? They're gonna have to look at themselves 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 6: and really make a hard reset at some point. I 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 6: don't agree that has been singularly Patrick Mahomes, But I 152 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 6: have some numbers. 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: Can I give you numbers? They got numbers. 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes has a sixty eight point six passer rating on 155 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: deep passes that's third worst of the thirty six qualifiers, 156 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: ranked near the bottom for NFL on deep ball completions 157 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: thirty two percent more. And while he's uh while being 158 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: top three in deep ball attempts fifty five. 159 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: He's so he's thoring them a lot. He's just not 160 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: hitting them. 161 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: And my point to you is you set up here 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: on this very radio show when you talked about getting 163 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Withshi Rice back and worthy and that no, and you 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: proclaimed that he was going to be the MVP and 165 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: they were going to go to the super Bowl because 166 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: Patrick got his mojo and got his receivers back and 167 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: that and that and that is what was stopping him. 168 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: So will you take that back that it had nothing 169 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: to do with that? 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: And that's about it with Patrick Mahomes playing badly, playing like. 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 6: Absolutely, why can't go trash? He is playing bad, without 172 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 6: a doubt. They are bad as a team, without a doubt, 173 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: There's no deny. Their record is what they are close 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 6: games that they normally win, they have it. They put 175 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 6: themselves in a hole yesterday, he's throwing some balls off. 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 6: They're not catching balls again, Andy Reid being freaked out 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: and doing stuff he doesn't normally do. They look bad 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: as a unit and this year is gonna be a 179 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 6: tough year for them to look in the mirror. Absolutely, 180 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 6: I thought they would bounce back. They had a good 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 6: stretch where they were putting up some points. Then it 182 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 6: went downhill the last three or four weeks. Without a doubt, 183 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 6: I was wrong on that. I have no problem admitting 184 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 6: that they look bad as a team this year and 185 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 6: are getting it done, especially Rob two point. 186 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: They're losing a good teams too. 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 188 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 189 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 190 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: listen live. 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We 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: knew it would be coming into last year, going into 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: this season as well, and to our surprise to a 206 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 6: lot of people, at least the Bears are leading it. 207 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 6: But not a good game for the Bears as a whole, 208 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 6: specifically Kayleb Williams. 209 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 7: Well, they were leading it as a thing. 210 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: They were ranked number one of the NFC heading into 211 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers. With that loss, 212 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: they fell all the way to seven. That's how tightly 213 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: bunch of things are of the NFC. In fact, all 214 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: of the analytics projections say that with that loss, the 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: Bears are now projected to miss the playoffs. In entirely 216 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: this forty eight hours after being number one of the conference. 217 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: There's a lot about what's going on there. And it 218 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: really was, as you mentioned, a tale of two halves 219 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: for Kayler Williams, because he started off quite frankly, just 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: terribly all right in the first half. 221 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: Like Patrick Mahomes go ahead. 222 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 7: In the first half six of fourteen thirty two. 223 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: Passing yards, but that he's been known to do, really 224 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: turned it up there in the second half one hundred 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: and sixty four total yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and 226 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: twenty one passer rating. 227 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 7: A just a completion rate of eighty six point four percent. 228 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: That is, until his very very last pass of the game, 229 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: fourth down, rather than taking the first down, goes for 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: it all in the end zone, intercepted to seal the 231 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: game and the loss for Chicago. 232 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and listen, this is where to me as they 233 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 6: head into the end of the season, and this is 234 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: where we're gonna also see what they're really made of. 235 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 6: A couple of things to know, We talk about this 236 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: all the time, Rob and I Rob Gidat. You gotta 237 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: play who's in front of you, right, You can't control 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 6: the schedule when they make it months in advance. 239 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: But ways we talked about it with the Bears. 240 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: The reason why I haven't been sold on them is 241 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 6: because of how they look throughout this season. 242 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: You look back at some of these. 243 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 6: Games and they barely beat teams that you're supposed to destroy. 244 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 6: To be when you look at them as the number 245 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 6: one seed the NFC, they beat your Raiders by one, 246 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: They beat the Commanders by one, both Stame's exact score 247 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: twenty five to twenty four. They go on to barely 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 6: beat the Bengals. They barely beat the Giants by four. 249 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 6: I mean they barely beat the Vikings again by two. 250 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 6: So they they go on and on and on, and 251 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 6: when they play the quality teams they have lost. They 252 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: got a great win, absolutely good win for them when 253 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 6: they beat the Eagles a halful of weeks ago, so 254 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 6: definitely credit there. 255 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: But this is where it got. 256 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago in Philadelphia, ways ago, two weeks ago. 257 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: That was before they played this guy. Yes, wait, that's 258 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 5: what you jumped. 259 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I said a few you said two okay, two weeks ago, yes, okay, okay. 260 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Is this argument and what you're about to talk about 261 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: your relaxiculous you relax your might go off and let 262 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: you please turn it off to read. 263 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: My god, I've never heard anything Why like this? Why 264 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: you're so emotional? 265 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Because because because you're right, you know what one for 266 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: every weekend, Paul pity, And here you talk about they 267 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: only want. 268 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 5: His name is Williams, not Caleb Parker. 269 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: His name is kayl not Cal only one by his 270 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: name is twenty points every game. 271 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: This is this is off. 272 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Guess what happened? This is lost, they lost. This is 273 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: where you're so emotional because this is where it's not one. 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: He's not one of your mentees. He's not one of 275 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: your mentees. He's not you don't know him. You don't 276 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: know him. 277 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: You can relax. You get so fired up, I sit 278 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: up there and let you go. By the Chiefs. It 279 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 5: was okay, you jump right in. Look at you. Why. 280 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 6: I don't understand why you get so emotional. It's who 281 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 6: saw rob. You can let me go. Then you can 282 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 6: talk as well. And it's the same. This is why 283 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 6: you're hilarious to be robed. The level of hypocrisy is 284 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 6: entertaining to me because you sit up here and talk 285 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 6: about Will's the losses. Yet the Lions went fifteen and 286 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 6: two last year. Every week you found a reason why 287 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 6: they weren't good. The Chiefs went fifteen and two last year. 288 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: You talked about every single reason why good. And then 289 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 6: you talk about the Steelers and they'll barely win games, 290 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 6: and well they did this, what they did this? Then 291 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: Kayler Williams, we can't criticize Caleb, No, we can't. We 292 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 6: get criticize Patrick and this person and Jared Goff and 293 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford, but we can't criticize Kayler Williams. So as 294 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: I was steady before I was so rudely interrupted. They 295 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 6: barely beat bad teams. That is where myself and some 296 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 6: others will say, I don't know how I feel about 297 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: the Bears. They're barely beating the bad teams. And then 298 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 6: you say, but credit them for Hey, you beat who's 299 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 6: on the schedule. And if you start to look at 300 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 6: why you I am concerned to why I feel like 301 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 6: there's still a lot of room to be designed for 302 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: them to get better. Is because the poor performance from 303 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: Kayleb Williams. He has talked about how bad he looked 304 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 6: in the first half of that game. We talked about 305 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: we've talked about where he has been throughout this season. 306 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: He has terrible passes. You're talking about on target, He's 307 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 6: one of the worst in that he's thirty fourth, there's 308 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 6: only thirty two starting quarterbacks in completion percentage at fifty 309 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: seven right now. He also is eighteenth in QUBU rating, 310 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: he's nineteenth in QBR and he is eleventh in passing guard. 311 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 6: So my issue has simply been for them, their ceiling 312 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: where they could be a legitimate one seed at NFC 313 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: is if Kleb could play up to what we expected 314 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 6: from him coming in the greatest prospect since Andrew Love, 315 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 6: a Heisman Trophy winner. He has an offensive coordinator, Guru 316 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 6: and Ben Johnson, and yet he himself has not looked 317 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 6: great and the offense as a whole hasn't looked great. 318 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 6: So it's okay to criticize him. That's all I'm doing. 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 6: It's saying I want him to improve. I want him 320 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 6: to stop having these horrible first halves or horrible second 321 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 6: halves all the time, and I want to see him 322 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 6: get better. 323 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: And I thought this would be to him able to 324 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: do this now. 325 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 6: He might be able to do this next year a 326 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 6: couple seasons under his belt with Ben Johnson will have 327 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 6: to see. But as of right now, including Ben Johnson, 328 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 6: who is acknowledged, their passing game is what's holding them back. 329 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: Last yesterday was another example of the passing game that's 330 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 6: holding them back. And they had a chance to really 331 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: put a coughing on this thing and say we are 332 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 6: the best team in the NFC, and they fell short. 333 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: And he was Alex, as. 334 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: They call it, you are the weakest link. 335 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: He was the. 336 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 6: Weakest link on that Bears team. And that's okay, Rob, 337 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 6: It's okay. 338 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: Are you done. 339 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: Yes, good. 340 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: Once again, just ridiculous coming off the game they played 341 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. You act like he hasn't played any games 342 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,119 Speaker 1: he has brought. 343 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: That team back. 344 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: He was let me talk. 345 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: Wait, you just did got off the mic and let 346 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: you talk. Did I not? 347 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I took my mic off, Yes, so let me talk now. 348 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: I was quiet. I let you go ahead with your spiel. Okay, 349 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: did I not? I didn't want to interrupt you, so 350 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: I let you go. The whole idea that you're gonna 351 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: sit here when this guy had that won four games 352 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: when they had no business to win, and when he 353 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: made some big throws and some big plays even in 354 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: this game, he got them back in and played well 355 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: in the second half. 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: And you're talking about the first half. 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: But you'll you'll celebrate your doors Sanders throwing touchdowns or 358 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: losing to the Titans. But you're gonna sit there about 359 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. 360 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 4: In games where. 361 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: They were seven point underdogs in Green Bay, it would 362 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: have been unbelievable for them to go on the road 363 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: and win in Philadelphia and win in Green Bay back 364 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: to back, and they were in the game and that 365 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: last play, I knew they were gonna throw that ball 366 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: in the end zone and it was what fifty to 367 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: fifty ball where you might come down with it and 368 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: win the game, or it was gonna be an interception. 369 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't even shocked that that was the play call 370 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: because that's what they normally do is throw the ball 371 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: in the end zone on that Everybody on a short 372 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: yardages is up close. So what they was like, Yo, 373 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go and and try. We got space in 374 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: the end zone, let's go for it. And that's what happened. 375 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: He threw the pick. He doesn't throw a lot of picks. 376 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. It's still about winning. He's a young quarterback, 377 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: but you make it like he's terrible and every week 378 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: or every chance. They just had a big game in 379 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and right away because they lose by seven points 380 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: to Green Bay when they were seven point underdown. He's 381 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the worst quarterback and he's the weakest link. That's your 382 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: take on Caleb Williams. Tell me that they should bench 383 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: him or cut him. If you want to have a 384 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: strong take on Caleb Williams coming on every other week 385 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: and say, oh, you didn't play. 386 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 5: Well et your Weekes's link on the bear. 387 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: So what if they won nine games where nobody even 388 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: had them being into the playoffs, nobody picked them to 389 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: go in the playoffs or to have nine wins this year. 390 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: And to sit around and act like he's disappointed when 391 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: they're disappointed Chicago and the Bears because they're nine and 392 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: four is outrageous to me. That's what I can't understand. 393 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: That's the part. You act like like there was some high, 394 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: lofty expectations. Show me the preseason predictions that had them 395 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. KINGO who had them win 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: in the division, had them going to the super Bowl. 397 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 5: But they're still there in the hunt for the division. 398 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: You're acting like people had them to be three and fourteen. 399 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, I'm saying they're half a game out Green. 400 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: So so I can't can do whatever you want. You 401 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, but I could be critical 402 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: of you two if I don't agree, right, So yeah, 403 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: go ahead do what you want, just like I was 404 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: critical of you and the Chiefs when you made your 405 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: your parade for Patrick Mahomes and they're going to the 406 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: super Bowl. 407 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 5: He's the m v P. 408 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: I told you then it wasn't happening. That's all I'm 409 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 4: saying the. 410 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 6: Reason why, the reason why I don't listen to you 411 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: because you said because you say, listen to your right. 412 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: So you said it all last year? Right stop? Literally 413 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 5: did I told you all? Yeah? You did. I told 414 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 5: you what the chief that the super Bowl? 415 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: I did not. 416 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 5: You literally didn't. 417 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: I didn't. 418 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 5: This is the difference between you not. Can that mint it? 419 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 5: That's be. 420 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: Every week Ro get the pick. I did not pay 421 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: them every week. No, he did not twelve out of 422 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: or whatever week. 423 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: No, I did not. 424 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I didn't piss him to lose every week shopping. So 425 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: you do know Rob keeps tracking I do, and I 426 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: know I didn't pick him every week against them. 427 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 6: So I don't know when you're right, Rock, because you 428 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 6: pick against them every week. What I'm telling you they 429 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 6: fifteen to two. I told you, by gosh, I told you. No, 430 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 6: I told you told you. The thing I told you 431 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 6: was thing No. 432 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I told you that the Lions weren't going to the 433 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl and the Chiefs weren't going to win the 434 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's what I told you all year. I 435 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: didn't care what the record was. 436 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, right, you are the week to think the 437 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 8: Bear the won four they got four wins this season 438 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 8: after trailing, right, this is this is the guy who's 439 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 8: so bad team. 440 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. That's about coming back. Yeah, because they 441 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 5: could have been losses. 442 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: They could have been lost, and he looks bad against 443 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 6: the Giants. 444 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: You will win this season after trailing at some point 445 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter. 446 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 5: And you win ross. No, let me say this, good, 447 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 5: go ahead. 448 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: It's the fourth Right, it's the most wins of any 449 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: of the season since nineteen seventy, since the merger. 450 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. 451 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: You don't win games in the final two minutes in 452 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter since nineteen seventy. What are you talking about? 453 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to figure out. What you're acting like. 454 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: It happens all the time. 455 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: No, what's funny about that is again the selective of 456 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 6: win winning close games matters. So everybody else wins a 457 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 6: close game, they should be winning as it's fugazy they win. 458 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: Close games now, it's great. 459 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 6: And also you're talking about games that a lot of 460 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: times he dubbed them in the hole. 461 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 5: He dugged him in the hole. 462 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 6: Just like you doug him in the hole yesterday, versus 463 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 6: the Packers, and he tried to dig him out play good, 464 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 6: really good. 465 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 5: In the second half. 466 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, no, I have no problem in that, but also 467 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: was a large contributor as to why they were in 468 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 6: the hole in the first place. And again, you ain't 469 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 6: got to take my word for it, take his own 470 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 6: coaches word for it. 471 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: So he should be benched, right or cut? 472 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: No what you're saying, why not I'm terrible because I 473 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: was terrible. 474 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: I don't have to do it. 475 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: When you say it's terrible, why don't you get on. 476 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: You have to take it, take a stand on. Some 477 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: say you should be cut. You can't play the middle 478 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: of the fence the middle of the time. No, you 479 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: can't do it. Put your hand off. 480 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: I have to do it. 481 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Rat your hand off. 482 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: You don't have to be in the middle. Cut cut 483 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, Yeah, cut, yeah. Cut. That go viral. 484 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 6: Oh, if that's going viral, then I have no intention 485 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: of going viral saying some crazy stuff. 486 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said I was crazy when I said the 487 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs weren't gonna make the playoffs either. 488 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: That went viral, and I was a bad guy. I 489 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: was washed. I didn't know what I was talking about. 490 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: He can't did it for clicks. 491 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 7: He can't did it for. 492 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: Clicks because he hates Patrick Mahomes and he hates greatness 493 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: and he hates it can't be true. And then none 494 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: of it still okay, you still hate Patrick Mahomes, and 495 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: I hate. 496 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes for I don't hate Patrick Mahomes. Just don't 497 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: think he's no what they say. 498 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: He was Jordan as Chris Bussa and I Rob, g 499 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: how much did we fight about that? And you know what, 500 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Chris might be finally right, he is uh Jordan ess 501 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the Wizard, d yes he is ills. 502 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: That run absolutely was Jordan. I get the point. Career wise, 503 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 5: it ain't over. 504 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 6: Obviously, Mike played his whole career, but that stretch he 505 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: had was amazing. 506 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. 507 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 508 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 509 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 510 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 511 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, if 512 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: the season ended today, of the Big four quarterbacks, patri 513 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: Mahomes and the Chiefs would not be in the postseason. 514 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens would not be in the 515 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: pos even though as poorly as they played, there only 516 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: one game to be in it. I know, I'm just saying, 517 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: and that's still ridiculous. 518 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 7: That tells you. 519 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: This is like the NFC South of yesterday and last 520 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: but not least, Joe Burrow again he missed most of 521 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: the year, but him and the Bengals would not be 522 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: in it, which means of the Fantastic Four, the four Horsemen, 523 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, the last of the Mohicans, 524 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: the only quarterback standing in the AFC where then he 525 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: salt is Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. He had 526 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: a big win yesterday against the Bengals, trailing by ten 527 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: and the fourth he went full superman once again finished 528 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: the game. 529 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 5: He win it. 530 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow loser. I'm just saying. 531 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: He made the plays when he had to, including a 532 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: forty yard touchdown run longest rushing touchdown by a quarterback 533 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: in Bill's history. And they had some good quarterbacks back 534 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: the day, three hundred and twenty nine total yards, four 535 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: total touchdowns, which means if the playoffs ended today, the 536 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: only quarterbacks with their salt historically standing in his way 537 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: between a Super Bowl is a seventy eight year old 538 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and CJ. Stroud who has two playoff wins, 539 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: but let's be honest, has not been the CJ. 540 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 7: Stroud of yesteryear for about two seasons. 541 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: Dub Well, how much pressure is on Josh Allen right 542 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: now heading into both seasons? 543 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: Josh Allen escapes a lot of pressure. 544 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 6: To me, Rob, maybe you feel me on this work 545 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: because he you know, he just a lot of the 546 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 6: conversations about Patrick Mahomes. A lot of conversation goes to, 547 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 6: of course Lamar Jackson with his failures in the postseason. 548 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 6: Maybe some is about you know, Matthew Stafford the last 549 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: handful of years. Now, of course Jayler hurts lose the 550 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 6: Super Bowl, win a super Bowl, And I feel like 551 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: Josh Allen only kind of gets a lot of the praise. 552 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 6: For the most part, he's spent tastic, he's spectacular, and 553 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: he deserves the praise. But to me, the pressure now, 554 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: because of all the way things just shook out, as 555 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 6: Rob g you mentioned, it now falls on his shoulders, 556 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: right The pressure usually Patrick Mahomes because he's the face 557 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 6: of the league, so on and so forth, or Lamar 558 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 6: Jackson can he you're so talented, but when will it 559 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: result in, you know, Super Bowl appearance. All of that, 560 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 6: to me is on Josh Allen. Now you're the raigning 561 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 6: Super Bowl MVP. You've got your same COACHMVP MVP, you 562 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 6: got your race, you got your same coach, you got 563 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 6: your same system, same guys. So it's not like you're 564 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 6: in some unfamiliar situation. You are in that same system, 565 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 6: same place, same everything. To me, it falls on him 566 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 6: because Rob there are some other teams that are really good, 567 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 6: even in his own division. 568 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 5: The Patriots eleven and two. 569 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 6: Drake May an MVP candidate, looks like you know some 570 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 6: people one or two depending on where you put him, 571 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: and Matthew Stafford. You got other guys we mentioned see 572 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 6: this shrout. Is this the real Trevor Lawrence that we're seeing? 573 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 6: You got bow Knicks, So forar you got Josh Herbert, 574 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert who's playing right now. 575 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 5: There are young guys that are coming. That's just in 576 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 5: the AFC. 577 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 6: Obviously you got some of the NFC as well, or 578 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 6: some of the older gate as well. 579 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: He has the most experienced. 580 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 6: This is his chance to follow up that MVP season 581 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 6: and then go and get a Super Bowl MVP, get 582 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 6: his team there. So to me, this has all how 583 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 6: it's all shook out, it's on him because there's no 584 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 6: better window than now. Joe Burrow just showed you yesterday. 585 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 6: A healthy Joe Burrow. The last couple of weeks reminded you, Oh, 586 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 6: this is what I do. If I'm healthy, I'm up 587 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 6: and running. I'm spectacular. Patrick Mahomes might come right back 588 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 6: next year. We'll have to wait and see what they 589 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 6: do over the offseason. Lamar Jackson should be right back 590 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 6: to where he is last season as well. So you 591 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 6: got these guys who are coming back, let alone in 592 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 6: the mix of the young guys in your own conference, 593 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 6: not even bringing in the NFC. So this is the 594 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 6: perfect opportunity for him being the elder statesman, aside from 595 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 6: of course Aaron Rodgers to go in there. You've got 596 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 6: the experiences, you have an opportunity to finally. 597 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: Get that ring. 598 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 6: Because it's going to be so hard moving forward, and 599 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: it's always hard to win a Super Bowl. 600 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 5: We know that. 601 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: So to me, the onus, the pressure, the eyeballs should 602 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 6: be on him as it's yours. And we had a 603 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 6: conversation in the NBA it's not apples to apples, but 604 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 6: similar how I felt the last few seasons for Attatakupo 605 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 6: Jannis when it's like, dude, you're the best player in 606 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: the conference. Conference is wideo But it's not just like 607 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 6: a million teams you gotta deal with. You should be 608 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 6: able to get to the finals, that's all, Phil, Josh Allen. 609 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 6: You should be able to get to the super Bowl 610 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 6: and hopefully win one for you in the city, in 611 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 6: the city and the team. Finally, because the pathway is 612 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 6: there for the best player and probably football let alone, 613 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 6: you know, left in the playoff hunt. 614 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I disagree. 615 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: I think that they still have you talked about it 616 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: before that he has to do so much in order 617 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: for that team to win. That talks about the deficiencies 618 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: that that team has top fifteen in scoring, so they're 619 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: not like a juggernaut offensively. I'll give you the defense, 620 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: top ten, no real receivers to talk about really. 621 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: Gonna be okay. 622 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: So you got Cook, let's focus in on him and 623 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Make sure they don't run wild and stop 624 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: the passing game because there's nobody to really have to 625 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: defend on. So I think that's where him having to 626 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: be Superman makes it even tougher when you make those 627 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of super Bowl runs or try to get there 628 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: because it is all about him. So I think that's 629 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: a I think that's a hard way to win when 630 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: it just has to be you and you have to 631 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: get to beat the Bengals, you gotta you gotta rush 632 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: for forty yards or forty yard touchdown run and you gotta, 633 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, get four touchdowns in the game to win 634 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: like that. 635 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: Where's the help? 636 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: I just think when you make it, when you when 637 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: you make a run, when you make a run, and 638 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: and you got to win that many games and you 639 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: have to be the focal point to all of them 640 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: in order to win. You could do that basketball. Probably 641 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: even the great basketball players have a second guy. You know, 642 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: Michael needed Scotty. You gotta have somebody else. Kobe and Shad, 643 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: you need somebody else. And I don't know, is Cook 644 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: it or not. Top ten in defense helps, I'll give 645 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: you that. Anytime you have a chance to win teams 646 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: that have top ten defenses. We talk about Tom Brady 647 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: all the time. You can talk about all about Tom 648 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Brady and he's the go and all that go. Show 649 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: me when he didn't have a top five defense when 650 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: he won a. 651 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 5: Super Bowl and great special teams. 652 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Okay, right, and a Hall of Fame kicker when Adam 653 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: Vanniey gets in. If Adam Venity misses two of those kicks, 654 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: nobody's even talking about Tom Brady. I mean that, that 655 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: is how important Adam Vanitery was to Tom Brady's legacy. 656 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: No, no, you already know I completely agree with that. 657 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 6: But again, I've been saying that about Josh Allen. Well, 658 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: I've always talked about how there to Josh Allen reliant. 659 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: But the difference for me, now, he was good enough 660 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 6: and has been to get you where you need to be. 661 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 6: He just couldn't get past the chiefs, right. That was 662 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 6: his achilles heels, that was his kryptonite. That was his thing, 663 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 6: the big Boogeyman. And it looks like that boogeyman is gone. 664 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 6: And it looks like another boogeyman who could had a potential, 665 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 6: you know, be a roadblock in your way in Lamar Jackson. 666 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 6: It looks like he's gone. Potentially, we'll have to see 667 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 6: how it all falls out and shakes out. 668 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 5: But I'm just. 669 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: Looking at it as when you get up in there 670 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 6: against some of these younger guys. If you're playing a 671 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: bow Knicks, they have a very good defense. But Bo Nicks, 672 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 6: this will be a you know, he's still a young guy. 673 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 6: Got to the postseason last year. But you should have 674 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 6: that experience. You should be the best player in all 675 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: of these games. You should be able to get it done. 676 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying it's full proof. I'm saying this 677 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 6: is the pathway, Like, this is the opportunity to better 678 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 6: than any other one. 679 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 5: That guy, Patrick Home, that team, the Chiefs are out 680 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 5: of your way. 681 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 6: You know, you might not even you may not even 682 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 6: have to play the Eagles like you would have had 683 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 6: to run into last year had you gotten to the 684 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 6: super Bowl. So I'm not saying it's easy. When I'm 685 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: saying this has been your greatest path. You have to 686 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 6: take this opportunity by the Horns and absolutely take full 687 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 6: advantage of it, because again, it may not open up. 688 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 6: If Joe Burrow comes back healthy and everything's going and 689 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence, CJ. Shroud, 690 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 6: all these guys in your own conference, bow Knicks and 691 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 6: so on and so forth, that thing is loaded and 692 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 6: the young guns are coming, the Drake Mays are coming. 693 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 5: This is that opportunity