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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot Com. I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 1: Demand to my left figs and you'll you'll see us

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Speaker 1: in a second. Two A one, nine, two or four

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Speaker 1: or five on three is your telephone number? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call talk some Giants football and Giants training camp

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Speaker 1: has officially begun here at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center.

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Speaker 1: The players are in the building, arriving today. There'll be

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Speaker 1: a conditioning test this afternoon, Mr Fiagles, and then I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you about that in a second. Tomorrow we'll

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Speaker 1: have our first practice. Friday, they'll continue to build up,

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Speaker 1: and then Saturday our first practice and pads which will

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Speaker 1: be um I'm not sure if that will be full

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Speaker 1: pads or shells we'll see or just shuppers rather might

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Speaker 1: It'll probably just be uppers, if anything, and then they'll

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Speaker 1: build up the full wait so many days before practices

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Speaker 1: it too, it's two full days. I think it's two

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Speaker 1: full days of practice before you can go. And you

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Speaker 1: in the past they've worked up from uppers into full.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's our Patchmer is gonna handle it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see everyone every head there's different so we'll learn

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Speaker 1: as we go, folks, And they've basically what they've done

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Speaker 1: here is they've put pretty much every training camp practice

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Speaker 1: on how much do they think the players can handle

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. So well, let's start what

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Speaker 1: what's happening today? First, Jeff? The conditioning test for an

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Speaker 1: NFL player? What is it like coming in after six

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, you're better pass it. That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't, what happens? You do it again

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Speaker 1: the next day and the next day and next day

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Speaker 1: until you pass it. And then but I think it

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Speaker 1: sends a bad sign if you come in and you

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Speaker 1: don't make that conditioning test, and you know, there's butterflies

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Speaker 1: and you're coming in number one. All the rookies are here,

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Speaker 1: so they've already been here. They've got over those those butterflies.

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Speaker 1: They've been in the building. But there the conditioning test

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Speaker 1: is a little bit scary because you're trained for it.

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Speaker 1: And then I've always I remember, you trained for it,

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Speaker 1: and while you're training on your own, you're coming in

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their test is, but it's all

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Speaker 1: obviously timed of some sort running of some type. But

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Speaker 1: when you're doing it on your own, when you get here,

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Speaker 1: it's you run it always faster because the adrenaline is

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Speaker 1: so and it's it's always tough for the big guys too, obviously,

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Speaker 1: have to make in terms of doing their hundred yard

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Speaker 1: dashes back and forth, which is usually what teams do. Um,

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Speaker 1: what if punters have to hit? What group? We always

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Speaker 1: of said it yesterday on our program a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There was tons of different ones. We run an eight

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday, I had said with Glances, I said,

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Speaker 1: that that was a test. It was I thought it

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Speaker 1: was most irrelevant as far as football. You got sixteen

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Speaker 1: You had to do sixteen of those. Um. The hardest

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Speaker 1: So that's actually running almost like it's it's two yards

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Speaker 1: at the time, almost more than that, right, it's three

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Speaker 1: And I remember I told years ago when I first

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Speaker 1: start ramping up. And by the way, folks, we have

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Speaker 1: seen the report I'm sure some of you have seen

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Speaker 1: from a Dana Rassini from ESPN regarding Sam Bielda Giants

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Speaker 1: started round picking the sub mental draft. It broke just

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Speaker 1: before we came on the show. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: we came all late. We're trying to track down his athlete.

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Speaker 1: What's going on. Um, we don't have any word on

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Speaker 1: know if it's false. I don't have much information on it.

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Speaker 1: So you can call and ask about it. My answer

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Speaker 1: In terms of the Giants, A real quick Jeff before

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Speaker 1: all show a long and again to five on three.

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Speaker 1: Just reminder, folks, Big Book kick off live for the

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Speaker 1: next three weeks and then it's gonna change, I think

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Speaker 1: Do you know why I wait for From my perspective,

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Speaker 1: do almost like you kind of do in these lacrosse

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Speaker 1: Doug in Rochester, who lead us off today on big

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Speaker 1: Hey Dougy, Hey, what's going on? Hey? John? And Jeff

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Speaker 1: so j John, I've senior interview yesterday with coach James

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Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing, Doug, and last year,

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Speaker 1: right Yeah? Look, yeah, the first job is always a

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Speaker 1: he's ready to go, that's that's not boring. Will you

426
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Speaker 1: put Will you put him in a preseason game? Uh? Yeah,

427
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: I will put him in a preseason game, but nothing,

428
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, just more to get him a little bit

429
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 1: into some game shape. But I'm gonna so basically one

430
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 1: or two series in the third preseason game and that's it.

431
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,919
Speaker 1: Would you put him in the fourth preseason game? Now,

432
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 1: I'm not putting him in the fourth preseason So you

433
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Speaker 1: play him in the third preseason game for what like

434
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: one one possession? May maybe that second and third preseason

435
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 1: game the first one, No way, second one maybe yeah,

436
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 1: with the starters. First series and you're out, and then

437
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: the third game maybe a quarter and you're out. Don't

438
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 1: you don't you think you need to give him some

439
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 1: direct competition and practice just to get a feel for

440
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: what he's got in the tank. You're good, That's fine.

441
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question. Good. I'm good with him.

442
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm good. I mean, I don't need to see anything else.

443
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think just watching some of

444
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 1: these videos on YouTube from an outsider, looking at some

445
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he's you want to he's ready.

446
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh you did that sort of stuff all the time

447
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: in the off season. Oh my goodness, please, I mean, wow,

448
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Do what I am gonna you know,

449
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: I got I got the reins on him. I'm holding

450
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: him back a little bit because you know, he's like,

451
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: he's probably your his worst enemy. He's a competitor. So

452
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of guy with Tyke Tolbert,

453
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: the coach is gonna have to sit and sit him

454
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: down and listen. You know. I know you're ready, man,

455
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to be careful. I really don't

456
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 1: understand all this, just this worry that always not gonna

457
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: want to play. He's not gonna do this. I don't

458
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: think people realize how much Odell Beckham Jr. Loves to

459
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: play football. First of all, he has a lot to play,

460
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: and personally and and and the jury is out on

461
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: him trying to Is he a team player? Is he

462
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that's gonna be committed all

463
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that people talk about. I'm sure

464
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Speaker 1: that he's absorbing that and thinking himself, I gotta show,

465
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna So that's why I gotta be careful with him.

466
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna want to get out there and go go, go, go,

467
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: go um because he also wants a contract to two

468
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Speaker 1: one four five one through. And by the way, folks,

469
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: I know some of you complained that sometimes hard to

470
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: get through. It's busy. I think the new time has

471
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: contributed to it a little bit. But we have some

472
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: open lines. If you want to get in, you'll get

473
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: right on at two five one three as soon as done.

474
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Speaker 1: At Lennon from Maryland, Lenn, what's up, hey, guys, how

475
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: are you doing? We're doing great? How are you? Lenn?

476
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: Exciting about today? In a long time, hasn't it? Yeah?

477
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: It has been it has been, has been, but some

478
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: great callers, there's been some great calls. Um strange morning.

479
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, coach being a coach being sick.

480
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: We don't know what to think about the Beal thing.

481
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything about McIntosh. Whether he's gonna be

482
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Speaker 1: on some list before the day is over. Just just

483
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: kind of a disconcerting strange Len, real quick. We do

484
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 1: know Macintosh is on the non football illness So did

485
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: sign this contract beyond that? I can't tell you. You know,

486
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: that's that's probably gonna be for a while. You don't

487
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: put anybody on that list. You know, that's just a week.

488
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you got for that. Remember, he can cut

489
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: back whenever he wants. He can, he can be taken

490
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: off that less whenever he wants. It's it's not an

491
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: issue with the roster. So whenever they want to bring

492
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: him back, he can. He's not like he has to

493
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: stay out X number of weeks or days or whatever.

494
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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I don't know, of course, I don't

495
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: mean to correct you, John, but that that's that's not

496
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Speaker 1: going to be his decision. No, of course, not that Okay,

497
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: you you said he can come back anytime he wants.

498
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 1: Not really. I feel like he's you know, they can

499
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: bring him back, Um, you know, back on the stopping

500
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Speaker 1: the run. Um. I may be a little naive on this,

501
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not concerned at all. Um, we've got the

502
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: best run stopping defensive lineman in the NFL in Snacks.

503
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Speaker 1: Stay healthy, guy, stay healthy, because I'm not sure what

504
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Speaker 1: we got behind him. Um, it's a pretty healthy if

505
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: and if Snacks goes down, even if it's for part

506
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: of a game. I don't know how you rotate somebody

507
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: into that position that, you know can You don't play

508
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: like Snacks can go ahead. No, No, I'm just saying

509
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't rotate anybody in that position that's

510
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna play like Snacks. You know. I think I feel

511
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: okay about Tomlinson in that spot. I'm not saying he's

512
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna be Snacks, but I think you'll be fine if

513
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: you have to put him in there. Yeah, yeah, right

514
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: to too slight disappointments about the off season. In my mind,

515
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: it was a great offseason. I'm sorry about today. This

516
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: kind of set us back a little bit, but I

517
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: think it's been a great off season. Two things I

518
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: really wasn't sure. I know it's easy to say this

519
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: now because the guy's on the non non football injury list,

520
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: but I really was a little concerned they're thinking about

521
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Snacks here too. I was a little concerned about that pick.

522
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: It looked like we picked the guy in the fifth

523
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: round who plays like the guy we picked in the

524
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Speaker 1: third round. And I'm not sure when you're coming off

525
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Speaker 1: at three and thirteen that that's that's really the best

526
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Speaker 1: way to go. I think they played the same position.

527
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Um I would have gone I would have gone no

528
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: cycle there. I hope McIntosh is a terrific player for

529
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: the Giants, But you know there's a guy who had

530
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: done in Virginia tech Um Settle. I think he went

531
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: to the Redskins one round later, one round later. I

532
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: think he would have been a perfect tick. Not just

533
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: to back up Snacks this year, but if you look

534
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: in two or three years down the road, I think

535
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: this kid is going to be a player. And I

536
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: think for the next seven or eight years we're gonna

537
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: be talking about that guy whenever we play the Redskins,

538
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be a really good

539
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: football player. Um. The other concern that I had about

540
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: the off season, and I wish we had signed the

541
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Speaker 1: center from l A. I really wish we had signed Sullivan. Um, boy,

542
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: that would have made a lot of difference. I'm just

543
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure about this center situation, Jeff. I

544
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: know you talked about the offensive line and anxious to

545
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: see how they go. I mean, I don't think we

546
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Speaker 1: have two all pro centers on our RUSS Well, not

547
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: many teams do. Not many teams do. I I was

548
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of a little disappointed that we didn't. But things

549
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: work out. You know, it takes two to make a deal.

550
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry. I just quickly on the macintosh. Do

551
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: you I just you know, you just don't quit on him, Okay.

552
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: I saw him play a lot last year obviously. I

553
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: mean he's he's very quick off the bar, and there's

554
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: something going on with him and hopefully he'll be okay.

555
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: Maybe we talk about him for the next five to

556
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: seven years the center position. Um. I think there's something

557
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: there with John Halapia or Hapio Halipiolopio, whatever the heck

558
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: his name is. But it's like culture his name all season.

559
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right now. It's like halapeno. Okay,

560
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: hallo Halapio. There you go, and remember this. John Sullivan

561
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: is gonna turn thirty three in August. So I would

562
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: be very hesitant in wanting to hand over a position

563
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: to a thirty three year old unless they're a punter

564
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: like Jeff Eagles. Yeah, well I wouldn't do it either.

565
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, a punter maybe, but not a center. I

566
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: I just I think you know that. And and I'm

567
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: with you as far as the question market center, because

568
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jonesy did a nice job. But as he

569
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, we all know that he's a little bit.

570
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: He's not big, Okay, He's a smart player, and to me,

571
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: he's a great role player. You can play guard, you

572
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: could play some physical challenges exactly, Um, John Halapio whatever,

573
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: He's a big dude. He's a big dude. And I

574
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: think that this team. I think the coaching staff likes him.

575
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: I think he's your starter. By the way, Glenn, I

576
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: think he's your starter. He looked like, I don't. I

577
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: don't disagree. I don't disagree with you, Jeff on the

578
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: on the ash thing. And I don't try to agree

579
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: with you too. I mean, I understand that. But but

580
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: let's remember, um, the rams didn't seem concerned. They signed

581
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: him into a big contract and the Rams are on

582
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: their way to the playoffs. What I'm not talking about

583
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: a ten year center here. I'm talking about a guy

584
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: who can who can make this offensive line better this year.

585
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the best offensive line in the world.

586
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: We gotta get that. And I just thought Sullivan was

587
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: one of those types of guys. If we had him

588
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: the line, the line got better. I'm a big center guy,

589
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Jeff John will tell you that. I just think the

590
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: center position is, you know, as almost as important as

591
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: the left tackle. And um, I know that a lot

592
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: of people who disagree with me on that, but I

593
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: thought Sullivan would have been an addition. But you know,

594
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: we'll we'll, we'll see what happens. Hey, John, your question

595
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: about the most important thing about you know, training camp?

596
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: What are you looking for? For me? It's it's John,

597
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: It's one thing, and it's one thing only. I want

598
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: to see Beckham. I want to see Beckham get on

599
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: the field. As far as I'm concerned, this guy means

600
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: four if he plays sixteen games. Guys, this guy means

601
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: four more wins just by himself. This this guy's got

602
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: to get you know, I can't wait to see this

603
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: guy get on the field now. May take all training camp, Jeff,

604
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: we don't care about training. Let me, I care about

605
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: about training camp. Um. First time they're doing after new practices,

606
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: I know, uh, you know they typically on the on

607
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: the Ben and Tom have done morning practices. What do

608
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: you have any idea? What? What what shermer has planned

609
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: for the mornings? I mean, what are they going to do? Do? Walkthroughs? Meetings?

610
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: Bill and I think what they're gonna do. They'll meet

611
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: in the morning. Uh, they'll walk through what they're going

612
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: to do in practice. Late morning, they'll come back in,

613
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: they'll have lunch, they'll do another quick meeting, and then

614
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: they'll go out and they'll practice what they walk through

615
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: earlier in the day. I believe that's what they're doing. Yeah, Okay,

616
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: sounds good. Sounds good. Hey guys, great talking to you.

617
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Let's go giants. Thanks appreciate it. So, by the way,

618
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: this is the Solivan contract for you folks that are

619
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: engesting this sort of thing. UM two year, ten point

620
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: seven five million dollar contract UM first year, UM, one

621
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: million dollar signing bonus, four million dollar roster bonus with

622
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: the base salary of a million, so seven point three

623
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: million of that is in the first year and the

624
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: second year. UM they could let him go with only

625
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a million dollars of dead caps, so it's it's in

626
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: effect a one year contract for seven million dollars, give

627
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: or take. Yeah, I see his point. Now listen, if

628
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: if if you were, if you were not high on

629
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: any of Jones or or John h. Halapio, Hallo, there

630
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: you go, then then you this this would be justified.

631
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I can see if you know, wherever your cap younger guys,

632
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: let him compete. You know, and the center position is

633
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: not as important as either tackle spot. It's important, but

634
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: it's not as important. The question mark in this camp

635
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: is right tackle. Okay, I mean we know who the

636
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: right tackle is, but can't he play right tackle? Well, look,

637
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: Pat Schremer said there's a competition for the spot. Um.

638
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Flowers took nearly all of the first team reps in

639
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: the spring. Um, I think it's fair to say it's probably,

640
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, his job to lose. The Giants won't say that,

641
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: but I think he had looked the fact that we

642
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't see anybody really take out the first team. You

643
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: first team right tackle slots once he came back, I

644
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: think was telling um, but can he played the position?

645
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Can he make THEO and not even just making the adjustment.

646
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: He used to play better than he played at left

647
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: tackle last year, just in terms of technique and things

648
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: like that. Um, you know, he could have the same

649
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: issues of right tackle they had a left tackle. You

650
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: have just as many good pass rushes on that side

651
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: of the line as you do on the other side

652
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: of the line. So he has to play better and

653
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: chat A Wheeler would be the guy that would step

654
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: in for him. But frankly, he's learning right tackle the

655
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: first time too. He's always been a left tackle. Saw

656
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: how Chad Wheeler played last year when when he was

657
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: at right tackle and he got benched basically at the

658
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: end of the season, So we'll see. I'm more I'm

659
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: just curious how Mike Shuland and and courch Shechrmer treat

660
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: that right tackle position with getting him help if he

661
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: needs it. Who knows, you know. I mean, obviously Ben

662
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: mcadoo's offense didn't help him out of left tackle much

663
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: at all. So we'll see what happens to a one

664
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: nine nine four five one three. Let's go back to

665
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: the phone and say what's up. Let's go to Duke

666
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: and Queen. His first step Brandon online three, what's up, Duke?

667
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: He's going on? Guys Today, today they reported that Sam

668
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Bills out for the year because of a soul's injury,

669
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of thinking it wasn't a good at anymore.

670
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: I know we could have still red shorted him had

671
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: he had no injury, and he would have just waited

672
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: out the year. It would have learned. But it's like

673
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: now he has that injury. He has that injury just

674
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: looming around his name now, and I just wanted to

675
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: know what you guys think about, Like the just doing

676
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: that now automatically assume that they knew he had something

677
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: going on? Do you have to assume that? But here's

678
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the thing you asked the question, where do you think?

679
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: To me, it's just like if he was still in

680
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: college and he heard his shoulder so words, it's you know, now,

681
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: if he's gonna come out in the draft, you're a

682
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: police car. Are you getting getting arrested? That is loud? Right, yeah,

683
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: let me trying to walk into somewhere. I'm okay, But

684
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: my point this is just like him getting hurt and

685
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: college and now he's going to go into the draft

686
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen and you're it's going to be

687
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: associated with him. Unfortunately, you're losing a year of rookie

688
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: control on the contract. And I actually think he was

689
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: going to play this year, and really do. And there

690
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: are very a lot of and by the way, there

691
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: are a lot of other reports by the way, um

692
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: saying that they're still debating treatment options and this is

693
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: not official yet. So again, the Giants haven't made anything

694
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: officially yet. When we know something, we'll let you know. Yeah, okay.

695
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: And then I also wanted to talk about the ESPN.

696
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: He made a list of the self Future Power ranking

697
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: and they had um, sorry, they had the Eagles, that's

698
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: number one, and I think they had the Giants is

699
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: number and the categories. So that was the roster, the quarterback,

700
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: the coaching, the draft, in the front office, it was

701
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: like the categories. And I wanted to know if you

702
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: guys can speak on that, and I'll take my Pollo

703
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: call out. Thank you, thank you, Duke. I appreciate it. Well, okay,

704
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: So twenty out of thirty two they said what they say.

705
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to hear him the quarterback was one of them,

706
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: front office was one of them. What is the other

707
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: criteria that they said? But you know these are power

708
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: rankings or power rankings. It looks like we have some

709
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: statement from the Giants here. Let me see, Um you

710
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: expect to be yeah, I mean, look, guys, people aren't

711
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: going to buy the Giants into being a great team

712
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: until they show it. They were three and thirteen last year.

713
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: They the second overall pick in the draft. All right,

714
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't I wouldn't get you know, too far

715
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: over yourselves on that one. Um, this is Pat Leonard says.

716
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: This quotes from the Giants. So I'm just let you

717
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting it from. Uh, Sam Bill aggravated

718
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: shoulder condition during practice on Monday, and treatment options have

719
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: been discussed since then, and that seems to be where

720
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: we're at. So aggravated it aggravated, Yes, okay, so that's

721
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: what that's what it says. What it says, so you

722
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: can take it for what it's worths and again, as

723
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: we get more information, will certainly put sent that to

724
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: you to five on three. Folks, you have a couple

725
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: of open lines if you want to get in chat

726
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: talk some Giants football, and I'm sure Dr Charlie from Portland,

727
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Maine has a excellent prognosis here on Mr Biale. Charlie,

728
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Mr Biale, take some arnica. It will help your shoulder.

729
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: You'll get back on the field right away. What if

730
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: he is something structurally wrong with it, Charlie, help something.

731
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: It will help the pain and inflammation. So that will

732
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: help at least all right, but seriously, you should use it.

733
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's nice. You know what what that does?

734
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: That opens the door for DRC to come back. That's what, Charlie.

735
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: I would love for you to call the show and

736
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: actually want to talk about players on the team and

737
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: not players that aren't on the team. Every time you

738
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: call in, you're talking about players aren't aren't even on

739
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: the damn team. Training camp hasn't even started. It. Can

740
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: we talk about players on the actual freaking roster? Come on? Then, hey,

741
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: you just said one of our cornerbacks that we took,

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: we gave a supplemental draftick for, who we expected to

743
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: be a heavy player on our team, is all of

744
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: a sudden gone and and that's why they got him,

745
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: because we don't have anybody else on the team that

746
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: is not worth a you know what, except for a

747
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: couple of guys. So all I'm saying is there's somebody

748
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: out there to make our team better and hopefully, you know,

749
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: they're going to look at that. That's all I'm saying.

750
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: And yes, go ahead, Charlie and okay, and it can happen.

751
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: Anything can happen, you know, listen the guy. And it's

752
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: not like DRC has been out of football for nine

753
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: years and they're bringing them back. I mean, there's a

754
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: there's a chance and you never know. But I mean,

755
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: so what else you said? You can make the team better.

756
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: And the other thing is we're not set on right

757
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: tackle yet. Um I know John, you know, you know

758
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: he's going to make the roster better. And I don't

759
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: think Eric Flowers will be our starting right tackle September nine.

760
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: I think we'll have a good veteran in here to

761
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: take his place, and if he's our swing tackle that

762
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: that will be fine. But um, you know, I'm excited

763
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: everybody's in uh you know, and we that's the whole

764
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: thing too, is health. We've got to get through this

765
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: preseason and this camp healthy because that what killed this

766
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: last year was everybody got injured. So it's very important

767
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: that we get through this time with our key players

768
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: staying healthy. And we just started off not very well

769
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: with with Peel. Hopefully, you know, maybe they won't need

770
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: an operation and you'll just be out for like you know,

771
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: they gonna put him on I R and he'll be

772
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: out for eight weeks and we can bring him back

773
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: at some point. But that's not a good way to start,

774
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: all right, not at all. John listening to Yeah, I

775
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: don't think he's just tired of listening to you. Yeah,

776
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: it sounds about right. I feel like, Okay, I think

777
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: he was. He was, John was researching a little something

778
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: as we were listening to you. But yeah, it's unfortunately,

779
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: that's not the way you want to start the regular

780
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: season coming up preseason actually, but um, you know, it's

781
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: part of the game. So what happens. Yeah, And the

782
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: other thing is just keep keep your ears open for

783
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Wagner because I think it's gonna happen real soon. So anyway, guys,

784
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: a good day, and I'll talk to you. Also, Thank you, Charlie,

785
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: Thank you Charlie. Rick Wagner the offensive tackle he wants

786
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: to trade for him. It's never ends. It's always somebody

787
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: knew that he wants in the team. What was on

788
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the roster was not good enough. He's the guy that

789
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: wants to add somebody, like the week before the super Bowl.

790
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I think he could really help the team. Yeah, a

791
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: week before the super Bowl? Sure? What's he gonna throw

792
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: a party for everybody and host it? I mean, come on,

793
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: who is Rick Wagner? By the way, he's a good

794
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: starting offensive right tackle. Big contract though, which is the problem.

795
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: And I think the other team we have to take

796
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: like like an eighteen million dollar dead cap hit if

797
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: they trade him, or why would they want to trade him?

798
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Then they're not the same way. When he called three

799
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: years ago about the Falcon trading Ryan Trader to the Giants,

800
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: and I kept telling him it's not gonna happen, he

801
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't listen to me. But maybe he'll listen to me

802
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: this time. It's not gonna happen. What is uh? What

803
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: is your take on Derek Flower? Do you think he's

804
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna play okay on that? Right? I mean, were you

805
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: gotta know something? How can you not be in I'll

806
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: believe it when I see a mode with him good?

807
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: I mean I have to be Yeah, but my I

808
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: guess my point is, is it who who's on this

809
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: roster that can play that position and you feel confident

810
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: that can be a starter in the national football That's

811
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: why I think Flowers are gonna be starting Week one.

812
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: That's that's what I was getting at. There's nobody else here.

813
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's got three years of experience at

814
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: left tackle, um and today's game playing left tackle and

815
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: right tackle, there's there's a little bit of a difference.

816
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: But other than footwork and stuff like that. It you know,

817
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: these these defensive ends and rushing you know the speed guy.

818
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: They they line up everywhere. Now it's not just one

819
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: side anymore. You can't hide anybody anymore. No, No. And

820
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: then plus, by the way, they're very versatile and they'll

821
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: exploit your weakest link. So if you were your right tackles,

822
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: the guy we're gonna pick on, I'm going over there

823
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: this week and next week I'll go back to right

824
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's what's going to happen. They will

825
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: find you. Yeah, with all the video and tape that said,

826
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: this is for all the sports now. If you have

827
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: a weakness on your team, whether it's you know, football

828
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: or basketball, whatever, they will find your weakness and they

829
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: will go to exploit it. Period. That's what you gotta do.

830
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it only makes sense, It only makes sense.

831
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: It's more football. I mean that that's what you do.

832
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: Right alright, folks, you about fifteen minutes left in the

833
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: show if you want to squeeze in. We don't have

834
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: any uh boody on the line right now, four or

835
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: five one three? But I love the Twitter. By the way. First,

836
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna play our favorite game. We'll put it in

837
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: one's favorite game like this. Did he play with Jeff Eagles?

838
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't have a great memory. Two NFL seasons, hundreds

839
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: of players he goes with the Eagles. Have you seen

840
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: the show before? You can make a mockery of my memory? Here?

841
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: That was just so all right? Here we going got

842
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: four guys for you today. We should probably explained look

843
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: good as we go. Are your folks that I've heard before? Um,

844
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Jeff play in the league for how many years? Seasons?

845
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: So it's twenty two seasons. Figure around seventy seventy mates

846
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: to a hundred team mates a year. You're looking at

847
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: thousands of players that he played with. Okay, so we

848
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: try to see how good. Jeff Eagle's memory is usually good,

849
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: much to my amusement, it's terrible, but we're gonna find

850
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: out this year and thirteen barely over five hundred put

851
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: me down a little bit more. John barely over five

852
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Dready have we got from before? A four? Bring it on?

853
00:40:52,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Did you play with Steve Johnson? Did you play with Stevens?

854
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: This is like the ninth Johnson that you brought up

855
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: in this A lot of Johnson's and Williams out Stevie Johnson,

856
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Steve Johnson, Steve Johnson, Um, I did I think I did?

857
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: They're running back with the Cardinals four maybe? Oh no, No, Well,

858
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Steve Johnson, the least the one I'm referring to, was

859
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: a tight end for the Patriots. So he was a

860
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: teammate of mine. Yes, of course he was, but you

861
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: didn't get the but you didn't get the team, right.

862
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't even remember that guy, obviously, Steve Johnson. There

863
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: was one Steam. Yeah, there's only three Steve Johnson's that

864
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: ever played in the league, one of us from O

865
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen, the other from twelve to seventeen. So incorrect,

866
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles, did you play with Floyd Dixon? Yes, Big Floyd. Hey,

867
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: did you play with Big Floyd? I? No, No, I

868
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: did not play with him. You played with Floyd dixons

869
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: a stupid game game with the Philadelphia Eagles in he

870
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: played seven games called three Passes with thirty six hard.

871
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: He had a seven year NFL career. He started twenty

872
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: eight thirty eight games for the Falcons as a put

873
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: returner from eight six eight of him. No, but he

874
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: was he wasn't big. Once you said big Floyd Dixon

875
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: in trouble. He was five nine hundred and seventy pounds,

876
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: so I knew what you said, Big Floyd trouble. Yeah, exactly.

877
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: The fifteen and fifteen did you play with Stevie Anderson?

878
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Did you play with Stevie Second, Steve here, Stevie Anderson? Yes,

879
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: I did, Now I don't remember. I think Stevie Anderson

880
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Seattle possibly Stevie Anderson. And what position did you play? Receiver?

881
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: He got the team wrong. He was a receiver. He

882
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: was a receiver. But you played with him when he

883
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: was had the Arrows out of Cardinals in nineteen five

884
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: and six. I remember, I remember, I just don't remember

885
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: what team that's You don't well, you remember well enough,

886
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: do I get two out of three? Come on, I

887
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: play with them a receiver. I said, he's in the league.

888
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: You gotta give that one to me. Yeah, how about

889
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: give you a draw? Okay, a half, give me a half,

890
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll give you one, Give me a half.

891
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Like you're reduced to begging. You're begging. You're a professional

892
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: and you're begging. Jeff, that is I'm begging for more memory?

893
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Is there something I can plug in? Finally? Did you

894
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: play with Ray Green? Did you play with Ray Green? Oh?

895
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: My goodness, en no idea whatsoever. I'm gonna say no.

896
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. You play with Ray Green on

897
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: the New York Football John? Yeah. See, this is the

898
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: one that kills me. Is when they were there Worth

899
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: the Giants and John has it. He does this all

900
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: the time. No, you gotta put a giant guy in there.

901
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: You don't remember him? Oh, it's read. What was the

902
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: defensive back question? What do you play for? Like one?

903
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: It was a defensive back game. We played one game.

904
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: He didn't play in one game in one year, played

905
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: in two. He did have five tackles, though good for him,

906
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: obviously didn't do much to keep him on the team

907
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: for more than two weeks. You got two out of

908
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: three on the guy, So I'll give that to you.

909
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: But now you're at five hundred sixteen. Roy Green. I

910
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: played with Roy Green. We all know who Roy Green.

911
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Will also play with Gray Green. You just didn't remember

912
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: because you're a bad teammate. Oh I'm sure. Yeah. I

913
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: wonder if we called him up right now and he

914
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: knew that I was on the team, you think he

915
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: would Yeah, he'd be like, Oh, you mean the old

916
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: guy that never showed up in practice, that guy he

917
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: was too busy swimming in the pool. Yeah, well, he

918
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: only played two years in the league. I can remember.

919
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: I can remember two rosters that I have played on.

920
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: If only played two years, Jesus, it's a hard game, folks.

921
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: You you liked the game when you were fifteen and thirteen,

922
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hated. Actually, I was doing

923
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: pretty well at the beginning, wasn't I. Yeah, you've actually

924
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: falling off a little bit. Um. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah,

925
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: the old cheet I took down. Well, wow, we got

926
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of when did all this stuff go? Is

927
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: this last year's look right down here under heroes? Yeah,

928
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: those are predictions for last year. Did I say we

929
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: got that many predictions already for this year? Yeah, there's

930
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: there's some bad ones on there. If we get bored

931
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: into the show, we can roll through the Let's go

932
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: to Ozzie in New York in the meantime, holding what's up? Hey, guys,

933
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: thanks for taking a call. Listen. I feel my loved

934
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: New York Football Giants ready to take the field already.

935
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, so did about the season? Um, listen, help

936
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: me out with this, Okay. I'm a little worried about

937
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: going to three for defense, and I'm worried about the

938
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: right tackle position old Flowers get his at straight. And

939
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: then I'm worried about the cornerback, you know, and I

940
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: heard about the injurie already. And I'm hoping Eli Apple

941
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: shows up that that you know, and play like the

942
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: first round draftic that he was drafted as. I'm a

943
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: little worried about this team, but you know, I know,

944
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, on paper, you could say whatever you want.

945
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm hoping and fingers crossed, I'm hoping for a ten

946
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: and sixth season at least, you know, guys, AZZI, if

947
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: I think you're on the right track, if there. There

948
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: are two things that really worry me heading into this

949
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: season that I'm legitimately concerned about. I think the offense

950
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: will be fine, You'll figure it out. You've got so

951
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: many talented guys. Barring a lot of injuries. I think

952
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: you'll be okay there. You'll figure out a way to

953
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: score points. Uh. The two things that worry me, I don't.

954
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't think the transition to the three four is

955
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: the problem, but I do think finding a second consistent

956
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: pass rusher is a problem. Um. You know, if the

957
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Connor borrowing thing happens. Patrimmer spoke about it today. Um,

958
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: I think he'll help. But again, he's older, now he's third,

959
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be thirty two. How much is he only

960
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: five sacks in each of the last two years. You

961
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: know he'll help, but is he gonna put you over

962
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: the top. I don't know who besides Verton is gonna

963
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: be able to win their one on one matchup and

964
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. That's big worry Number one. Second worry,

965
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: also being not quite as big as number one, is

966
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: depth at cornerback Um Jenkins after him, There's still question

967
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: about Eli Apple. Even with his talent, you don't know

968
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: how good he is. And then it's a wide open

969
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: competition for your third, fourth, fifth, and six wide defensive

970
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: back positions at quarterback and who's the second starting safety. So, uh,

971
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: if you can't rush the pastor really well, you need

972
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: a great secondary. If you don't have a great secondary,

973
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: you need a bad great pass rush. I don't know

974
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: if the Giants of either one of those two right now,

975
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: even with Jenkins and Towns on the roster. So those

976
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: are the at least for me, Ozzy, those are the

977
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: two things I'm worried about. What are your big warning signs, Jeff?

978
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: With this team, I'm worried about a lot of people

979
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: thinking that on paper that this team can be ten

980
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: and six, Ozzy. I mean, because I just don't number

981
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: one a new offense and new defense, um thirty, this

982
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: roster is new. I think there's a lot of things

983
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: that still have to happen from a three and thirteen team.

984
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: If this team was, you know, six and ten, maybe

985
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of more of a chance.

986
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: But I've said this on the show previously. If if

987
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I said it, I just I don't think this this

988
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: is it's gonna be a better year than lst year.

989
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: But I think you gotta you gotta be a little bit,

990
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: be careful of what you wish for, be happy if

991
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: they do well. We all want them to do well.

992
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: But you know, there's still a lot of things that

993
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: still have to be worked out from a team that

994
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: was three and thirteen last year. With a new offense

995
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: and new defense, a new head coach, a new personnel,

996
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, It's gonna take a little

997
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: while to get get this team on on track. They

998
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: better better than this. Yeah, you know, I'm hoping. I've

999
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: seen the schedule, guys, but I I really think this team,

1000
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: with the talent that they have, and then especially I'm

1001
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: a big believer of a gentleman. You know, I'm spoken

1002
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: about this gift for years. You know, um how I

1003
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: felt about Jay Rees. I'm so glad that gentleman's at

1004
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: the helms. You know, I think he he's gonna turn

1005
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: it around. And Eli, he's got two solid years left minimum.

1006
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hoping that before Helotize puts another super

1007
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: Bowl in that chillcase. And then you know, let's let's

1008
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: stay positive. Think new thing, new coaches, new team. I understand,

1009
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: but look, listen, with the talent we had last year,

1010
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: we gave Eagles run for their money. And I'm talking

1011
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: about injury prone team that we weren't less. Yet you know,

1012
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: we we played pretty darn good against our division games

1013
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: we wanted getting blown out, you know. And with that said,

1014
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: let's see division games are always tough, you know that.

1015
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: And then let's let's keep the fingers, keep our fingers crossed,

1016
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: and hopefully this team would be a playoff team. Guys,

1017
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: thanks appreciate it. Good stuff, my man. Um, just a

1018
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: couple of things on a couple of points you made. Yes,

1019
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: the division means everything, Brett, you can take that one

1020
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: more call if you on before we say goodbye. Um,

1021
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: if you want to win the division, you gotta go

1022
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: for and too, Okay, if you want to win the

1023
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: NFC East, And frankly, I think if you want to

1024
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year, I think you better win

1025
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: the division because it's a really tough conference. Um, you

1026
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: better go for and two in the division. So that's

1027
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: number one, number two that the conference is stacked. I

1028
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: went through this with Lance last week. Yet every every

1029
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: read quarterback in the NFC believes they have their franchise

1030
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: quarterback starting for them this year, every single one, now

1031
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: the Bears. That might not be right about Mitchell Dubinsky.

1032
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Every single team. I don't remember that ever being the

1033
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: case since I've watched football. Arizona and Bradford they've two,

1034
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: so I mean, it's amazing. So this is a stacked,

1035
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: stacked conference. And if you go back last year, I

1036
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: did the I did the math with Lands last week.

1037
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it again. But the NFC

1038
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: had almost like a six winning percentage against the a

1039
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: f C and interconference games last year. So they're dominant,

1040
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: dominant conference, and it's gonna be really really hard. Ten

1041
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: games is an accomplishment, by the way, in ten wins

1042
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: might not even get you into the playoffs this year.

1043
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: I could see ten wins and you lose a tiebreaker

1044
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: for that six and final spot. So you better not

1045
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: only win ten, you better win the right ten to

1046
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: win that tiebreaker to get in. It's gonna be really,

1047
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: really tough. I'll say this. We'll look at that schedule.

1048
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: Trying to win ten of those games, especially the first eight,

1049
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: it's really hard. I'll say this, and my heart of hearts,

1050
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: I believe this team will be playing meaningful football games

1051
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: in December with a chance to make the playoffs. Beyond that,

1052
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm not making any guarantees. And listen, and you know,

1053
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: I think that the when you get into training camp

1054
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: and that first meeting, team meeting, when everybody's there, the

1055
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: ultimate goal is to go to the super Bowl. That's

1056
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: that's what. But to get to the super Bowl, you

1057
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: gotta win your division. That's the first thing. Then your

1058
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: playoffs and you know that kind of stuff. But I mean,

1059
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: the best way to get into the playoffs is go

1060
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: for and to you to go forward. I mean, that's

1061
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get there and win that division. Um,

1062
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: then you can talk about all the rest of it afterwards.

1063
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I think this team will

1064
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: be playing good football throughout the season. I think that

1065
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: they'll come up a little bit short, just because of

1066
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: what I said before. It's a new team, it's a

1067
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: lot of new personnel, there's a lot of new coaches.

1068
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of new stuff going on here.

1069
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: I expect them to be better than they were last year.

1070
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: I think everybody does. I think that's kind of captain obvious.

1071
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: They've won three games, but they're over under or on

1072
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: the season. Is that Giants is like six seven games, whatever,

1073
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, can they get to eight or nine? I

1074
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: think they may, but they may not. Here's the kicker, Jeff.

1075
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: This team could play good football and answer some of

1076
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: those questions in a positive way and still only win

1077
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: eight games. That's how tough it is. They could play well,

1078
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: but if they have a couple issues at the end

1079
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: of a couple of games and miskick other team makes

1080
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: a ridiculous play the bad penalty, you know, they can

1081
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: only win eight or nine games and play really, really

1082
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: well and not make the playoffs. So it's it's it's

1083
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: just it's really tough in the NDFC this year. Just

1084
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: is this team not only has to play well this year,

1085
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: they have to stay healthy. And that's a big factor too.

1086
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much goes for every team, but particularly

1087
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: the Giants because of their personnel and their depth at

1088
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: the position, very young roster. You're gonna have to be

1089
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: lucky in a sense to stay healthy and do things.

1090
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: And the teams that are healthiest in November generally a

1091
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: chance of making the playoffs if they do. If they

1092
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: do get a little bit beat up at the beginning

1093
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: of the season. You gotta be able to have those

1094
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: guys be able to come back. And it's not I

1095
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: R I R I R R like it's always been.

1096
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: It's been horrible. It's funny. Market Chicago's on the line.

1097
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: Kind of Brown's official now, Brandon, thank you. What kind

1098
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: of barns cornor Barwin is a giant. So there you go,

1099
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: a second potential pass rusher. Um, he'll line up across

1100
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: from Olivia Rardon. I think him and Kareem Martin will

1101
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: get the first chance at it. And that's again, when

1102
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: you have issues in a pass rush spot, just throw

1103
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: numbers at the problem. He hope somebody works out, And

1104
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a smart move. Um, and Kyle Carver

1105
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: was waved to make room for for Connor Borrowing at

1106
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: that outside linebacker and position. How it works? How bad

1107
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: is that You're training camp and next thing you know,

1108
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: you're gone. Now, this is kind of in the world.

1109
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they called him and told him not to come today.

1110
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Remember he was here yesterday, Borrow when he was visiting.

1111
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they told the poor kid not to or

1112
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: he might have even been still been here. That's possible.

1113
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: Mark and Chicago wants to talk about predictions. Mark, I

1114
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: actually have you on my list here. Last year you

1115
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: said Davis Webb would be the number two quarterback, which

1116
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: finally did happened a week seventeen, So I guess congratulations,

1117
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: though I'm not sure that's what you're going for on

1118
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: that prediction. You know, I meant more in training camp.

1119
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: But you know, my prediction the year before was Iri

1120
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Dinnell would be cut in training camp, and it did

1121
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: happen at the end of the season. I remember, that's

1122
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: always a year off on my prediction. Hopefully you're a

1123
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: year on this year. Okay, what do you got, Well,

1124
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make since I'm my training camp predictions haven't

1125
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: been that good, I'm gonna make the season predictions, you know,

1126
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: for the whole season. So I agree with you guys

1127
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: that the defense is going to be the Achilles heel.

1128
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: If there is an Achilles heel or weakness, that's going

1129
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: to be it. But my prediction is we're going to

1130
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: do something that we haven't done in a long time.

1131
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna have five games that we score over thirty points,

1132
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: and we're going to score three hundred and seventy points

1133
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: on offense. And I think Unfortunately because of the defense,

1134
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: a couple of those games we're gonna lose. So that's

1135
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: my big prediction for the season. I like that. I'm

1136
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: going to write that one now, Mark, I think that's

1137
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: a good brush and and thanks, I appreciate it. The

1138
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys all right, real quick, Jeff, I want to since

1139
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: we start a little bit late, we'll go a couple

1140
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: of minutes over here. I want to go through. I'm

1141
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of the sheet off the wall, Frank

1142
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: of As you noticed, here are some of the predictions

1143
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: from last year. And this just will I think folks

1144
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: with this will go towards a showing you how inherently

1145
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: unpredictable the NFL season can be based on how things go.

1146
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: All right, here we go are good, Buddy bashing, Ohio,

1147
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, top three, m v P good try A J.

1148
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Marshall and a business body will beat out Bobby Hart.

1149
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: Neither one on the roster anymore was the draft pick

1150
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Abdul Matt lacast will start the first game of the

1151
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: year over three Mike and Florida Fluke or not on

1152
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster and twelve rushing tds. During

1153
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: the year Nope, David Baltimore, he actually did. Okay, I

1154
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: don't know if this is means starters, but yet I

1155
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: all wrote down from was Munson linebacker, jad R. Johnson

1156
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 1: at safety, Wheeler at offensive tackles. Three make in the team,

1157
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: which is pretty good. Yeah. I think that was basically

1158
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: who was they were making the team. So good job

1159
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: David Baltimore. He got two out of three for guys

1160
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: making the team. Yeah, and so was Munson. They both

1161
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: were so good job David Baltimore. Um, there we go.

1162
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: I think that might be Dave dominic Our producer Evan

1163
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: Ingram a hundred of hundred targets, second most on the team.

1164
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: I would actually have to check that. I'm not sure

1165
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: about that. Brandon. Can you check that to see how

1166
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: many targets Evan Ingram had and if it was the

1167
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: second most of the team. Go to Pro Football Reference

1168
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: that'll be there. And Giants wired to wire win the

1169
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: NFC East while that that wasn't that was not correct.

1170
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: The wire broke Jonathan Florida, Brandon Marshall Moore touchdowns, than

1171
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. That well, I don't don't know how

1172
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: much did he I have I don't even think he

1173
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: played well. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up the Giants

1174
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: stat page. You're just so, I have it in front

1175
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: of me. Two touchdowns. I didn't even have a touchdown.

1176
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure, to be honest with you, I

1177
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: think we hadn't really have to drop in the end zone. Um.

1178
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: Last year, Odell Beckham Jr. Had three receiving touchdowns and

1179
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall had zero, so that did not happen. UM.

1180
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram last year in terms of targets, had a

1181
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen targets, which led the team. So Dave

1182
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: was actually one out of two on that one. But

1183
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan was wrong. Charles in New Mexico Flucro would be

1184
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the starter week one and Eric Flowers to the Pro Bowl.

1185
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Flucker eventually started, but the other one, the other one

1186
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: did not work out. Uh. Gollman would average eleven carries

1187
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: per game. That's christ in Texas. He had a hundred

1188
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: and eleven attempts on the year, so not a terrible

1189
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: games and yeah, so a little into ten probably about

1190
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: nine so that but actually not bad though. That's not

1191
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: a bad prediction by him. And then at Andrew Adams

1192
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: free safety starter. That turned out to be the case eventually,

1193
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: so I'll give m a little checkmark for that. John

1194
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: in Connecticut um Eli would have fifty hundred passing yards. Nope.

1195
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Um Marshall and Beckon would both have two hundred yard

1196
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: games over the course of the year. Brandon Marshall, by

1197
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: the way, finished the year with a hundred and fifty

1198
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: four total receiving yards, so that didn't work out too well.

1199
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: And JPP minimum thirteen sacks. So Mann had a rough

1200
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: day at the office there, Lenn, boy, Lenn, I hate

1201
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: to do this to you. Sevent completions for Eli with

1202
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: four e touchdowns, Brandon Marshall, eight hundred receiving yards and

1203
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. Nope. Charlie in Portland, Maine, neither Flowers or

1204
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: Heart would start week one. I believe they both did

1205
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: so No, and Michael Thompson would be the fourth quarterback.

1206
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he made it through the first

1207
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: week at training. Cap Why do you continue to keep

1208
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: calling in, Charlie Damien in Philadelphia, Adam business Body would

1209
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: be the starting right tackle. No. Um, Jay in England

1210
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: are good, buddy. Fifty one touchdown passes for Eli nope.

1211
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: And here we go from Twitter at I Patricio fifty six.

1212
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: Devin Taylor second on the team in sacks. He didn't

1213
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: make the team by the way, Um, four players would

1214
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: have four or more interceptions. That was also not the case. Sorry,

1215
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Buddy um our Buddy G sixty underscore trolley on Twitter.

1216
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Four players with a thousand yards from scrimmage? Um, No,

1217
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: not close. I don't think one had a thousand yards

1218
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: from scrimmage today. No, I don't believe they did. Dark

1219
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: one was the closest. He had eight hundred and sixty

1220
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: and he was the closest guy at Donald Rosen Wing

1221
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: would have the best net punting average in the league.

1222
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: Not on the roster anymore. NFL n y G forty

1223
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: three uh nine and seven second place NFC East at

1224
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: gruing Ben Paul Perkins a thousand yards rushing at end five.

1225
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: Jared Joe Wounds would make the practice wide as a guard.

1226
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: He actually just got added to the training camp roster. Um.

1227
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: He did not make it through last season though, But

1228
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: at least he's on the training camp roster now. So

1229
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll give a little little nugget. Here's here's a nickel

1230
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: for your time. Sir um At Louis v. Kristen um

1231
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: Rosas would have a sixty yard field goal that would

1232
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: win a game. He did not do that. He won

1233
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: a game. But now I beat blue, I bleed blue.

1234
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: He also be blue nine um Gold would be the

1235
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: team's exclusive short yardage back and I was incorrect as

1236
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: dark Will kind of played that role a little bit

1237
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: and Kennan New Jersey, Uh Giants beat Dallas in time

1238
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: of possession on the year. No, just alright, So I

1239
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: got a few check marks on there, and when I'm

1240
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: really looking at and crossouse here and it just shows

1241
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: you as we sit here and we try to predict

1242
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year, it's futile. It's a it's

1243
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: fun and we're gonna do it because that's what we do.

1244
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: But it is a feudal fetal exercise. And you go

1245
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: back and you think of some of the things you

1246
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: guys predicted, some of the things we've predicted over the years,

1247
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: and you look back and you say, what on God's

1248
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: green earthwards, I think, and how about this would have

1249
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: been amazing to me if somebody would have predicted that

1250
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: the Giants would be three and thirteen and fire their

1251
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: head coach after coming off eleven and five playoff run

1252
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: the year before. The second year, from my point is

1253
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: is that you know, you gotta be a little bit

1254
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: more realistic coming then too this season with your prediction.

1255
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: And that's where I'm going with when I told you

1256
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: about the season as a whole, and teams have got

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Speaker 1: worse the first before, and I think that's what guys

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Speaker 1: are holding out for. And it can happen, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen often. And I think

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Speaker 1: a prime example is that you stay in the division

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Speaker 1: and look at the Eagles last year. Okay, they the

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Speaker 1: year before, all right, they were not very good football team,

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Speaker 1: and then you know they come back and um, but

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Speaker 1: I don't care what team you are, it's one position

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Speaker 1: that really has to play well. Quarterback. There you go,

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Speaker 1: no matter and what you said, I didn't know. When

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Speaker 1: you think about the NFC, and every single team in

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Speaker 1: the NFC thinks that they have their franchise quarterback, We'll

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Speaker 1: see how many of them play well and and how

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Speaker 1: close of it is at the end of the year

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Speaker 1: with these teams running for the playoffs and who's gonna

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Speaker 1: make it it's gonna be toughn be really tough this year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun though. That schedule behind you is

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Speaker 1: really difficult. And it all starts tomorrow first practice camp

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Speaker 1: recoverage on giants dot com. Practice is the two. I

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Speaker 1: will also have some photos of video, I think from

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Speaker 1: the conditioning test today. Maybe Dantino taking the conditioning test.

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Speaker 1: He should take the conditioning test. You have the speedwalk

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Speaker 1: next to all the guests. UM, I don't want him.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. He might have he might if

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Speaker 1: they make him Ronny. He's so excited already his heart

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Speaker 1: might explode. That's what I don't want to kill the

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Speaker 1: poor guy. Well, we have medical people out there to

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Speaker 1: kill him. We got and all that stuff will be fine.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you're killing me. UM tomorrow and ms G

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Speaker 1: every half hour during the day, we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: quick reports from here about training camp. Check that out.

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Speaker 1: Then GIHNTS Training Camp Live begins next week. UM every

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Speaker 1: Monday and Wednesday Ay at six, So I think that's

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Speaker 1: a live show at six and they're gonna do some

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Speaker 1: replays on Tuesday and Thursday as well, So make sure

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Speaker 1: you check that out on MSG for Jeff Fiegos, I'm

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Speaker 1: John Schmilt. We'll see tomorrow. Everybody. Make sure you have

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Speaker 1: a pleasant day. Practice starts tomorrow, and let the chaos

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Speaker 1: begin