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Speaker 1: They say a series doesn't start until the road team

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Speaker 1: was on from the jump. As the Pacers head back

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Speaker 1: for Game three with the split.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you got it. You gotta eat it hard.

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Speaker 3: Baby haha.

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Speaker 1: And look we're gonna see if okayse he can't return

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Speaker 1: the favor and we'll get into this matchup and more

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Speaker 1: with longtime NBA writer and our legendary producer Jabbari Davis

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Speaker 1: on this episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is

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Speaker 2: housing Jack got mad Blue swimming. Sorry guy, Lucas. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there you go be driving Spinny number nineteen.

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Speaker 3: That's been secure. Let's sell click for Henry Champions, go

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Speaker 3: to the couple ten.

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Speaker 1: Jabari Davis, thank you for joining us today on this

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Speaker 1: very what is the penultimate potentially episode of Miles check

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Speaker 1: on Medposts.

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Speaker 3: Potentially pencil ultimate even pots.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have one episode after the finals, so it's

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Speaker 2: remains to be seen. Maybe one more, maybe two more.

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Speaker 2: Maybe to say at this point, no, stay tuned for

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Speaker 2: the class.

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Speaker 4: We don't know how we're officially announcings.

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Speaker 2: I think we mentioned it on Zeitgeist before. Yeah maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Word has spread.

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Speaker 3: Uh anyway, So.

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Speaker 2: So here we are.

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Speaker 3: Jabari Davis last week. I'm still gonna stand.

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Speaker 1: I still just for my own little I really would

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Speaker 1: like the Pacers to win, but it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: difficult to stick with this based on what I've seen

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Speaker 1: now that I think the logical side maybe thinks okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe okay, see has this. But also Halliburton has been

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Speaker 1: playing well, so there's a few X factors there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe okay c k oh the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a palindrome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see Funder. Sorry, I've been just nothing to say.

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Speaker 4: That I was. I was panic texting both of you

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Speaker 4: after Game one when I said you because you know

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Speaker 4: remember heading into the series, I said two things. I

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Speaker 4: said one, I'm not going to bet against the Pacers anymore,

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Speaker 4: and then I follow that up with I got okay

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Speaker 4: see in five or six. Yeah, game one, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you guys remember the You could You could probably detect

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Speaker 4: the trembling in my in my text.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: You were.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't understand the thing you were writing. You were

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Speaker 2: your fingers were all over the place.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: I was very happy after Game one.

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Speaker 5: I was like, we were the all only podcasts that

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Speaker 5: were three for three picking the Pacers. Nobody else, Simmons, nobody,

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Speaker 5: Zach Low, nobody. Everybody says okay seeing five, which is

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Speaker 5: still might be. But yeah, I don't know that Pacers

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Speaker 5: come back when just there's just sometimes yeah, when it

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Speaker 5: feels like the NBA postseason is being written by something,

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Speaker 5: you know, there's just.

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Speaker 3: Like Emmy winning writer or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and they're just like that and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to do it again where they come back from

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Speaker 2: an impossible you know, because.

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Speaker 1: What they were down fifteen points in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: and then it just it started just chipping away, chipping away,

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Speaker 1: and you could just feel the energy and they're just like,

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Speaker 3: Is it happening?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, my goodness, it was like just what seven

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: How did you guys feel when you saw him get

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this he's getting this.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if I knew it was in, but

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Speaker 1: It could happen now, it could happen now. I didn't

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: I both expected it to go in, and when it did,

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Speaker 2: I screamed so loud in my living room that my

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Speaker 2: way that was genuinely hurtful. No, he was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: When this happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when this, when this went in, he was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Did you for them?

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Speaker 3: It's wild.

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Speaker 2: It's I've been saying since the first round when they

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Speaker 2: So I was rooting for the Cavs, so I got

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Speaker 2: suddenly can't miss. They also seem like they have way

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Speaker 2: It's a wild But anyways, I felt for the OKAC fans,

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Speaker 2: this is just like the two thousand and one finals,

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Speaker 2: is what I've seen a lot of people saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: this was a fun game one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, I don't know, man, Yeah, well

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. But like Carlisle sitting at starters

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Speaker 1: I mean, for like, how you know, going into it,

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Speaker 1: it was like, you know this the thunder defense first

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Speaker 1: Pacers had the thunder forcing turnovers. Yeah, and that alone

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Speaker 1: just they just had to figure out that other piece,

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Speaker 1: because after game one, I was like, that feels like

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that's gonna wake the thunder up

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Speaker 1: for game two, Like they're not gonna let something like

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Speaker 3: And that's pretty much what went down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the turnovers have been I mean that's always been

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Speaker 2: Halliburton's thing is not turn it over. He had five

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Speaker 2: game two and the Pacers just like couldn't couldn't stop

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Speaker 2: turning it over. It was like, had people googling it.

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Speaker 2: After the first half of Game one, people were like,

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Speaker 2: what's the record for most turnovers? Because they did they

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Speaker 3: It was something something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ended up with only like in the thirties,

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Speaker 2: but still third thirty something turnovers in the finals game

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, to the point where like if

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Speaker 4: what's the actual record for turnovers in a series?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh then I mean Game two, night and Day

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Speaker 1: when they defend like this, it doesn't matter how much

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Speaker 4: This feels like a match This feels like a matchup

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Speaker 4: if if both teams come to if both you'll think

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Speaker 2: If the Pacers I can come back and one game one,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the thing that I would have been

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Speaker 2: was like one of the best contests that I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen like that play be that cool looking,

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Speaker 2: the things that as people who picked the pacers in

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Speaker 2: All I care about is being right, as we all do.

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Speaker 2: That's why we podcast is. I think Carlisle still like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's the only person I've seen beat a

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Speaker 2: the finals. In that case, he like did something to

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Speaker 2: you take it. You take it, Dwayne, And that hurt

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Speaker 2: But like it's just I feel like he figures things

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Speaker 4: Yes, credit to Okay sees defense, Credit to the the

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Speaker 4: to your point, I'm very much hoping it's not pumpkin time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, even though look I'm standing by okay, see

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, yeah, they've been better at home. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So you know, they're a young team, and I don't

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Speaker 2: they get some young guys there. They see get to

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Speaker 1: All right, well, you know what, why don't we take

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Speaker 3: And we'll be right back after this and we're back.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about Oklahoma's defense might be something

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Speaker 2: Calling them Oklahoma is funny to me.

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Speaker 1: I like to just call him Oklahoma Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like there's I'm gonna call him city.

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Speaker 1: I don't think his defenses is too intense for the pace, No,

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Speaker 1: who fantasized about putting a bet down on the pacers.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm doing more of a spiritual bet

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Speaker 2: As if I had as if he were taking the bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is which is actually just as good.

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Speaker 2: You know. They a lot of people said I could

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Speaker 2: I had a problem with forgetting to dribble just frequently

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Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you about the time I was

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, well wait, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this was a fancy pickup game.

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Speaker 3: Were you eleven?

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Speaker 4: He's straight from the yard?

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Speaker 2: No, No, this was in college.

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Speaker 4: Yeah from the yard?

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Speaker 2: Who says that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But even who's Oh, we're so we're playing that?

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Speaker 3: Like it's basically, oh, we're.

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Speaker 2: Playing real basketball.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what did you think we were doing? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think maybe play to like you know, how you

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Speaker 2: like an out of bounds play off of a made basket,

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Speaker 2: right not I don't even know which one it is.

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Speaker 2: That you can run made basket, but off a time

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Speaker 2: out you can't run, right? Yes, all right?

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Speaker 1: Anyways, that was the interesting we did find out Tyrese

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Speaker 3: So that I don't know if that that.

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Speaker 2: Had lower leg discomfort, but anybody's ever played a game

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Speaker 2: in the finals without dealing with lower lewers. Yeah, not

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Speaker 2: Like had I always remember to dribble. They say I'm

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Speaker 2: and it's not me, it's just other people. We should

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Speaker 2: talk about the fun dah our boy Chet my favorite bibliophile,

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Speaker 2: my main man with the best recommendations in the gameberg

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Speaker 2: I mean people, yeah, yeah, check get Chet went on

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Speaker 2: is uh you know things I can't a little bitout

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Speaker 1: He was just very transparent. He's like, look, dude, I

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Speaker 1: I like picture books, man, and these these are what

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Speaker 2: What I like to call coffee table books on some

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Speaker 2: what variety?

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Speaker 2: Rather than saying I've got multiple books, I've got different

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Speaker 2: And he's many people say like second best player on

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Speaker 4: So I have a thought about that. And look, okay,

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Speaker 4: see fans are gonna be man no matter what you

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Speaker 4: say about their team. Look again, I picked you guys.

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Speaker 4: I think Chet's gonna be great. But I will say this,

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Speaker 4: you know, like if the if the if it's coming

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Speaker 4: me did wonder if that had to I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 2: That's just what his shoulders look like.

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Speaker 1: That just.

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Speaker 2: It's his body only speaks one.

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Speaker 4: Language, all right, No, but no, I I do think

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Speaker 4: when he's giving, you know, max effort, he'd obviously se

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Speaker 4: you know, sees the floor more. But it was good

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Speaker 4: to see him get it going. And you know, in

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Speaker 2: Too, Caruso with twenty off the bench. You got Cruso

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: McConnell, by the way, just I respect this man. My

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Speaker 5: I always would just look out there and marvel that

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Speaker 5: he has done nothing but get better. And like now

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Speaker 2: Like he's out there. He's I mean, you kind of

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Speaker 2: for you, like he's playing and everyone's like TJ McConnell's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like you you wrote in this that he's like playing

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Speaker 2: something man doing a lot with a little.

441
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 4: Aged Shout out to all the former Wildcats in this series.

442
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: Shout out to his sister. Did you see that picture

443
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 2: going around? I just got drafted?

444
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, I didn't know where that was going.

445
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

446
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, and then goes down two days

447
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: after joining Mercury.

448
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh did she Oh yeah? Yeah?

449
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, right, knee injury in her first game.

450
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: That sucks, but it's fine, just three to four weeks

451
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: so it's not like a terrible thing. But yeah, that's

452
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: that's not a good first memory you want to have.

453
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: With her game.

454
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: No, yeah, point guard, point guard.

455
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 4: I was not familiar with her game. Okay, all right,

456
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: t J?

457
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: All right, TJ, way to go on that one.

458
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: Good on your lad.

459
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: Not his wife, his sister, but good on you.

460
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: Good jeans? All right?

461
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Did he go, TJ? But go TJ's parents. All right?

462
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: Anything else we want to talk about? The draft is

463
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 2: coming up. We've only got a few episodes left. YEA.

464
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: Does seem like people are moving away from the seventy

465
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: six ers picking the second best Rutgers guy, which I

466
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: was happy to see. I think the ringer just had

467
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: them picking the dude from Texas.

468
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, is there someone you would

469
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: actually actively prefer?

470
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: I think the guy from Texas sounds good, But I

471
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 2: don't know who you guys like and are you Are

472
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: you doing any draft research?

473
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: I haven't yet, but I was gonna say, you know,

474
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 4: to each of those guys credit, at least they weren't

475
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: matched up with somebody else that's also in the top five.

476
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 4: And you know their college team.

477
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: Wasn't good, so and their college team was bad. Yeah yeah.

478
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: As a Laker fan, I just look at these as

479
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: little trading tokens that we use.

480
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 4: That that's the saddest part, because no, Jack, that really

481
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: is how we look at the draft.

482
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's how the rest of the

483
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: league looks at our teams. I just think of the

484
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: Sixers as a farm team for the Lakers, and like

485
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: I had some hope at one point that you know,

486
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: our best player, Joel Embiid might one day, you know,

487
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: graduate to the big show aka being on the Lakers.

488
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: But it doesn't look like he's gonna make it there.

489
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's not for everybody. The Lakers aren't for everybody.

490
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure, that's the thing.

491
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure, a lot of real hard pressure,

492
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: that's for sure. The one thing is they say Kevin Durant,

493
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: that trade seems to be about that it's bubbling and

494
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: then maybe the Knicks might pursue him, which would be

495
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: something that would.

496
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Be interesting, suns. Is that the idea, what's the one

497
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: you're hearing?

498
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 4: I heard today was between like Houston, San Antonio and

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 4: who's the thirteen.

500
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: Wind Horse Windy the wind Man, the Horseman of the

501
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: Apocalypse believes Kevin Durant will be traded in coming weeks

502
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: amid Nick's rumors. That's exciting, like I'd like to see

503
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: him on I think I heard one trade that was

504
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: like him for Cat because Hat and uh Booker homies

505
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: and former Wildcats Durant would be fun. But like, does

506
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: that improve the Knicks that much? I think I think

507
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: it's maybe good for them long term because I think

508
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: Durant has less on his contract right in the future.

509
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: What it also does is like in a series, you're

510
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: not overly reliant upon a six foot guard like and

511
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: this is taking nothing away from Jalen Brentsword because he

512
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 4: was absolutely spectacular, but being able to have both of

513
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: them in the in those scenarios, I feel I'd feel

514
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 4: better about it.

515
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joannis also looks like he's ending the speculation.

516
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: Huh what did he say?

517
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: He wants to return with the Bucks.

518
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: He's going to return with the Bucks. There are we'll

519
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: see the Milwaukee Bucks me I think Milwaukee geez.

520
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: No, actually the knuck if you Bucks.

521
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I believe he's going to Apparently there's no they're saying

522
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: there isn't much of a market for Yannis right now,

523
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: with him not telling Milwaukee he wants to leave in

524
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: them not actively pursuing anything, and then there's a year

525
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Hoops article that's saying that, yeah, he wants to go

526
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: back to the finals with the Bucks. So he said

527
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: that finals are different. I hope to be back soon

528
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: with the Bucks.

529
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, man.

530
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: But again, these are words being spoken now. Terms and

531
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: conditions obviously I think apply. But I think for right now,

532
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: he's doing the thing. I mean, everything that the rumors

533
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: are saying. It doesn't seem like a lot's happening. But

534
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously that all that can change based

535
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: on anything.

536
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: That's cool that he wants to go back to the

537
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: finals with the Bucks. I want to go to the

538
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: finals with the seventy six ers and like play point guard.

539
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's cool.

540
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope it happens for him, and I hope

541
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: it happens for me. Should we take a break, Let's

542
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: take a break. Let's take a break. We'll be back

543
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: for the rapid fire round of questioning. Jabbari posted on

544
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: your own Petard.

545
00:26:51,800 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: All right, John Luc Pitard, and we're back, Javari.

546
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: Yes, I.

547
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: Love and I hate that this has to happen, but

548
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: you are now in the hot seat. This is the

549
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: fasting question answer for Rabers question.

550
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: All in sports, My best.

551
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: He said that, Yeah, I just took the micro machines

552
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: got jobs. That's how quick I said that. Now, you

553
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: know we do we don't ask a questions really quickly.

554
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 3: Don't even think about this back quickly.

555
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

556
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: Is doing an event? You know what I mean? Okay,

557
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: are you ready? Do you accept the terms and conditions?

558
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: I do accept?

559
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he accepted the terms and conditions. He's

560
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: going to beat them fourteen pages. I know, guess one

561
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: tricket financial products that you've just agreed to go in

562
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: on with my hole today.

563
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Now, Jabari, bring me that spleen that you just gave me.

564
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: The urns are not favorable, Jack, do you.

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Want to go first? I'll go first, Miles if that's

566
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: okay with you.

567
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: It's not okay with me, but I'd like to be polite,

568
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: so you go ahead.

569
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay, see this player or that player, Jabari, this is

570
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: a little thing that you invented. Now I'm going to

571
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: use it to you. You gave me just enough rope

572
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: to hang you with man, all right, you next.

573
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Up the interesting line to come from a white guy's interesting?

574
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: How much?

575
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: And you just how much rope did you need?

576
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Just the right amount.

577
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: There's some strange fruit on these trees, don't.

578
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: Jabari. You said this player that player. Let's ask the

579
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: ultimate this player that player. It's the final ish episode,

580
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: it's the finals. Michael Jordan's in today's game, poor Lebron

581
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: James in the nineties peak both Oh my god.

582
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so you can't go wrong. You cannot go wrong

583
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: with either. And while yes, I would always love to

584
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: see Lebron play against some of those guys, give me

585
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan no matter what, right now, because for one,

586
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: I want him in today's game, but I also want

587
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: him in today's world with social with Yes, I want

588
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: peak Michael Jordan with social media, a camera that megalone everywhere,

589
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: and yes, please give me that.

590
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: If he is entering the league now, is he signing

591
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: with the Paul Brothers? Like what you know what I mean?

592
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: Like? What is he?

593
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: What is he an influencer? Like what does that look like?

594
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Like he's just.

595
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: I no one, man, Let me see I do like streaming,

596
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: like I r L streaming.

597
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, probably he would be because as we saw

598
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: in the Last Dance, he's a real like music fan, right,

599
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: he'd be like somebody who like was a DJ on

600
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: the side or something like that.

601
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: You know, he'd be like I mean the gn X concert.

602
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

603
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Or I could also just see him like being like

604
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: reallyto like Mary J. Blige and like kind of old

605
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: like nineties like for his age, like man's always listened

606
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: to like washed R and B Man.

607
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: Is this what? Yeah? I think that would be the

608
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: most interesting because like I feel like Lebron would just

609
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: be a better magic slash, Like it'd be like Malone,

610
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: Like magic in Malone's body is like kind of what

611
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: and we kind of we saw what those guys look

612
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: like in the nineties, Like Jordan today, I just don't

613
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: I have no idea how his game develops, you know,

614
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: like because he would probably be shooting ten threes a

615
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: game and he'd probably be making a lot of them.

616
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah Jordan at from Deep Shooting game.

617
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a complete stopper like every So that that

618
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: would be the most that would be the most interesting.

619
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I could see it going either way.

620
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for him to have today's slang available

621
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: to him.

622
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: Is it Is it fair? Is it fair to say

623
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: like it would could potentially be something like what we're

624
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: seeing from.

625
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Aunt maybe yeah, I mean ten three is a game with.

626
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: That athleticism, not quite as seemingly physically imposing.

627
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: But right, there's some things that he would do when

628
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: he got like he used to be like, Ant's good

629
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: going to the basket, Like he kind of needs a

630
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: lane and let like MJ was just like so creative

631
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: when he got in there, and like would always run away.

632
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: Yep.

633
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: So I feel like it'd be better than what we're

634
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: seeing from Ant personally.

635
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Jab next question, uh, oh Shack. He recently said quote,

636
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: I would definitely love to play in this era. I

637
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: would still bring the football pain and I would be different.

638
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: I'd be watching these podcasts. Oh Shack couldn't play in

639
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: this era. He couldn't guard the three. It would be simple.

640
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: As soon as Joker shoots the three, I'm gonna run

641
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: right past and I'm gonna post up in the lane

642
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: for one hundred seconds. So if you hit the three, good,

643
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: But I know by the time we get the ball

644
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: and throw it down, I'm definitely going to.

645
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: Hit the two.

646
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to make more twos than you hit threes,

647
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: So I will probably only shoot a three like if

648
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: we got up, but I would not go away from

649
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: my strength. My strength is power and hype. So I'm

650
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: going to take the high percentage shots. What team benefits

651
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: the most. Who's an instant winner by signing prime Shaquille O'Neal.

652
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Lakers, thank you well, ye questions, we're

653
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: doug here by the way, I love Shaq, I one

654
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: love Shack. And while I wish, I wish we could

655
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: see Jordan, I don't know that Shaq really would want

656
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: to play in today's world with all of the scrutiny,

657
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: with all of the eyes and I mean no disrespect

658
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: of certain people. I don't see I don't see that

659
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: as a great fit. I don't necessarily think he would

660
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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: I think we just if we purely focus on just

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Speaker 3: the basketball of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I give it, Give me that every day of

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Speaker 4: the week.

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Speaker 1: Because he is truly one of those few players you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like in any era, because people talk all the time,

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Speaker 1: they're like, bro, they they can't hand No one could

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Speaker 1: handle Shack right now, nobody, nobody.

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Speaker 4: That's why it was funny. And you know what, the

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00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: cute little Twitter decisions or excuse me discussions, they're fun

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Speaker 4: at times. But there was just at one point, there

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Speaker 4: was an actual debate whether like Draymond or any of

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Speaker 4: the undersized centers from today would be able to match

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Speaker 4: up physically, you know with Check and so, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: didn't watch it.

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Speaker 2: I mean like Raymond, yes, like that's that.

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Speaker 4: That was a conversation. That was a social media conversation.

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Speaker 2: Because he had six fouls. You put them in the

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Speaker 2: line six times, but then you're you're also out of

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Speaker 2: the game. I do think Check would be able to

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Speaker 2: body up with him, though, I think that that would

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Speaker 2: be like that they would have to make that illegal.

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Speaker 2: They would have to make it illegal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess who would be the closest, like,

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Speaker 1: because obviously Shaky said Rick Smith's is the one person

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Speaker 1: that gave me the most problems.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of Rick Smith's out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who are the Rick Smiths of today?

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's you know, it's the person I

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Speaker 4: would give him trouble is the guy he mentioned and

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Speaker 4: he specifically mentioned it because of insecurity. The Joker versus

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Speaker 4: Shack would be match. It would be I would watch

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Speaker 4: that eighty two games a year if I could.

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Speaker 1: What about Steven Adams, He just maybe from a brute maybe,

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Speaker 1: like from a brute side of it, everything else might

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Speaker 1: just be like he can he's not afraid of a

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Speaker 1: physical physical contact, but every other skill set he's I.

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Speaker 4: Think right there is where it is.

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Speaker 3: He's not afraid of it, but you know, but he

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Speaker 3: should slow him down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, put another Steven Adams on the barbie.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like his analysis of how he'd win

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Speaker 2: by giving Joker open threes and then making two's is

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Speaker 2: like a little bit like his analysis of how you

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Speaker 2: keep from having to pay too much for gas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: is you only let it get down to a quarter

708
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Speaker 2: a three quarters tank and then you fill it back

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Speaker 2: up stage four boom, so you never have to pay

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Speaker 2: that much twenty dollars Earnie.

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Speaker 3: But I guess, yeah, how much would the game change

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Speaker 3: with Shack in it?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like with the league if

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Speaker 3: he was there and we had a Shack type player?

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Speaker 1: Now with that, are we now entering a different cod

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Speaker 1: Like does the emphasis become different with a player like

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Speaker 1: Shack rather than like the space and pace kind.

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Speaker 4: Of a I think we're already in a situation where

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Speaker 4: the league is getting we're getting varied styles again, But

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Speaker 4: we would really have to get varied styles because you

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00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: simply couldn't game plan against him the way that you

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Speaker 4: did against most of the league.

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Speaker 1: Right right, Jack, You got another question? Or should I

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00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: hit him with the final question? Hit him with the

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00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: final the close final question? Jack Er Miles, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: bring it back.

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Speaker 4: Wow you know.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Nope, I know what you're about to say.

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna shoot me?

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Speaker 4: Man, I could not possibly. It's like asking me to

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Speaker 4: pick my from between my children, which I do not

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Speaker 4: have any for some reason, comparing you guys to children.

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Speaker 2: But you great, this should be easy.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead, but I'll say this, man, why

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Speaker 4: wait for the last show. This has been such an

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Speaker 4: incredible run. I really I trow. I so much appreciate

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Speaker 4: working with the two of you, as well as Brian.

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Speaker 4: You're the plus one Brian. No, I so much appreciate

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Speaker 4: working with the three of you for these episodes that

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Speaker 4: uh you know it is. It has opened doors for

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Speaker 4: me in ways that I can't explain, and it has

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Speaker 4: been a hell of a ride. So thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: I choose both.

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Speaker 2: I choose you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what a little bit I didn't hear

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Speaker 3: Jack or Miles.

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Speaker 5: My brain just turned off. Now I can tell by

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00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: the tone that you weren't going to pick either of us. Yes,

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Speaker 5: so I checked out her wish.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, I wish.

753
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: I wish you luck out there.

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Speaker 4: Man Man, I'll be all right.

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Speaker 2: No, but the feeling is we do the last episode

756
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: without Jabari and the show is just a complete disaster.

757
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: We don't even know who. The finals so bad.

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: They're like no, no, no, what hey are we sure?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Well, Jabbari Davis, thank you so much for being a

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: seminal part of Miles Man. Boosty is an originator, the foundation.

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Speaker 3: Of the show. When we were like, we're like, what

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Speaker 3: do we want to work with, We're like.

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Speaker 1: Jabbari Jabari, no question. Simple, It's that simple. It was

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Speaker 1: not even it was a no brainer like Shock coming

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Speaker 1: back in the league for us Man. So honestly, you

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Speaker 1: d us.

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Speaker 2: It's more of a no brainer than Shack coming back

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Speaker 2: in the league. I actually didn't believe what both of

771
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: you were saying about Shack coming back in the league.

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: I think you would be defensive liability. Bum City.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a double laded sword.

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Speaker 4: It's a double A big and strong cat okay, uh

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Speaker 4: j right, where.

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Speaker 3: Do the people find you?

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: Follow you and all that on Twitter and Blue Sky.

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Speaker 3: IM you can find me at Miles of Gray everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore Brian on Twitter and Jack ob

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Speaker 2: the number one on be Sky. And if you're if

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00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: you follow the discord for boosties, you should just go

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00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: to the Daily Discord and we'll be u We'll be

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 4: And to that point, shout out and thank you very

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Speaker 4: much to Paul Garaventa all of the folks in the discord.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hold it down.

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00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: You kept the conversation going and you took care of things.

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Speaker 5: Legend d Discord master class by gav.

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Speaker 2: With that City Funda's.

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Speaker 3: City City Funda.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Paul gravent A, big cheers to you by

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Speaker 1: I one absolutely uh uh and all and all the

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00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: listeners to We will be back and the love fest

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00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: will continue because it's not the last episode. But we're

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Speaker 1: almost there.

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Speaker 2: But bye, almost there, bye.

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Speaker 5: H h

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Speaker 4: H