1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with safety Kyle Hamilton today. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: So Kyle, we'll start here. You went back to school 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: this spring. Is their name correct? 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: So how many credits did you have and what kind 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: of courses were you taking? 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: I took sixteen and a half credits this spring. Yeah, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I overloaded one and a half credits. I took manager economics, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: business problem solving, social media, all strategy. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: All right, what did you learn strategy? 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: I was actually working on my strategy as we were waiting. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: So can you can I just you know, could that 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: be like. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 5: A project for the class or yeah, I'm sure you 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 5: can review it for me. 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. I'll do it for like twenty bucks. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect, We got to deal. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: We learned about a bunch of stuff net promoter score, 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: a bunch of different marketing terms that it's fresh in 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: my heads. Okay, but it was good. It was It 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: was tough. I forgot how hard Notre Dame was, but 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: I made it through. 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's first couple of courses you name there, 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: there's there's some point challenging. 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, managerial econa is no fun. Yeah, that was probably 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: the hardest class I had. But a lot of business 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: school in Notre Dame is a lot of teamwork. So 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: outside of the numbers intensive classes, you'll have a lot 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: of like group projects and stuff like that because they 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: try to simulate like the real world environment. So I 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: kind of like that part. 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: What's your major business? 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: Marketing? Okay? All right? 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: And are you still part of that? Like that high? I? Q? 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: What is it called here? Mensa? 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: I hope so, But I mean I had a little 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: a little card when I was younger, but I don't 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: know where it's at and I don't know if you 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: have to renew it or maybe take the test again, 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: and hopefully it's like a one time for for everything. 41 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: But I mean that's kind of cool though. 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: You just keep that in the wallet, Like anybody ever 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: challenged on something, you're. 44 00:01:53,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Like, well, IQ, So hopefully I'm not that conceded. I 45 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: would definitely. 46 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: So were you done it not? 47 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Or name? 48 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: Or do you still have more classes to go? 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: My classes actually start back up next Monday. I'm taking 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: online classes this summer next summer and that'll be done. 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: So class is twenty four twenty five, but really classes 52 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: twenty three. 53 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: And why did you want to go back so early? 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: I heard your mom might have had some of it influence. 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhat. You know. I was always raised like you 56 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: get your education, football is and forever, but nobody can 57 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: ever take your degree away from you. So I value 58 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: that a lot, and it's big reason why I went 59 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: to Notre Dame. I went back earlier because I know 60 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: that if I go back and think about going back 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: five ten years from now, it's not going to happen. 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: So it's trying to get out the way while all 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: my friends are there still still a little more fun. 64 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: Did it feel at all like strange to be sitting 65 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: in a class again? 66 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it did true, like the first because I 67 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: missed the first two weeks because we were playing so right, 68 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: my teachers were like kind of keeping me up to 69 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: date somewhat, but I was still kind of behind when 70 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: I got there. And when I first got there, a 71 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: good amount of students and know who I was like 72 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: in the class. And it's also hard to not skip 73 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: class because if you skip, you're like everybody's like, where's 74 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: Kyle that everybody notices I'm not there. So but now 75 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: I pretty much went to every class and it was 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: a little weird, but once I got back and swinging things, 77 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: it was it was good as new. 78 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Sign any autographs for other kids in the class. 79 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: No, but I didn't take a lot of selfies. I 80 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: didn't take a lot of selfies. Autographs have been a 81 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: little much selfies A new autograph, Yeah, pretty much. 82 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: There you go? There you all right? A right, we 83 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: should probably talks some football. 84 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: So looking back on your rookie year, I guess what 85 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: were the biggest takeaways for you? 86 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: And just kind of how do you evaluate it personally? 87 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: I learned a lot. I'm still learning a lot just 88 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: because I'm not per se rookie anymore. I still feel 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: like I have a ton to learn, even right now 90 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: during real tas. But to answer your question, last year 91 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: was it was a whirlwind. But at the same time, 92 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: you kind of get a group of things and it's 93 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: it's funny, like you play against the guys every week 94 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: who you're leave looked up to if you've seen play 95 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: on TV for tens of years, and after about ten players, 96 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: you're like, I'm as good as these guys, Like I 97 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: can play on this level and its game stacked confidence 98 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: like that every single week and towards the end of 99 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: the season, I felt like definitely belonged out there. 100 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you finished the season as a top grade 101 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: safety by Pro Football Focus? 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: Did that Like when you see that, what did you 103 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 5: think about that? 104 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: And just kind of to your point, like I felt 105 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: like you were playing your best football at the end 106 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: of the season. You came on really strong, So just 107 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: how do you kind of look at all of that. 108 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't really pay attention to the 109 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: PFF because no offensive PFF, but yeah, I feel like 110 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: you can kind of construe the numbers in a certain 111 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: way to get a certain output. And I mean I 112 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: played pretty well towards the end of season. By I'm 113 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: being bluntly honest, I don't think I was the best 114 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: safety in league last year, and it's just how the 115 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: numbers go, and so I have a lot to improve on. 116 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I felt like I know 117 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: what I can do in this league and just kind 118 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: of tune it up for the future. 119 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like I'm curious, what was it. 120 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: Was there a point in the season where it felt 121 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: like things kind of clicked, Like you know, sometimes rookies 122 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: talk about like whatever the welcome to the NFL moment 123 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: or this was something where the game started to slow down, 124 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: or like all the cliches that you that you kind 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: of hear, Yeah, but what was it for you that 126 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: allows you to play your best at the end of 127 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: the year. 128 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: Just playing free, like just not playing like a like 129 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to go through the playbook every game. I 130 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: feel like that's when I play the best, when I'm 131 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: just out there doing stuff. When I get up from 132 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: a play and I don't even realize how it just 133 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: made that play, I feel like that's the best when 134 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm playing the best, when I'm out there kind of 135 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: thinking like okay, when this rotation happens, blah blah blah. 136 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I start to hesitate a little bit, 137 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: makes me slower as a player. But honestly, that just 138 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: comes with knowing the playbook, not having to think about 139 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: it out there and just being natural where you get 140 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: the call, you know the checks, and now you're I'm 141 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: allowed to go make plays and stuff like that. 142 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Just read and react. Well. 143 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like you ended on the highest 144 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: and I mean a forced fumble fumble recovery in the playoffs, Yeah, 145 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean that had to be a good kind of 146 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: catapult into the off season for you. 147 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it was kind of weird play because 148 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: it was I mean, it was third and forever, and 149 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: so I thought, I mean, they're pretty much play ran 150 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: like a give up play to just punt the ball, 151 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: and I came up. I just ran up as fast 152 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: as I can hit Hayden and I was like, I 153 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: was on the gun, like, dang, my shoulder hurt. And 154 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: I look over and I see the ball. I'm like, oh, 155 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know I caused a fumble, and so I 156 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: just grabbed a ball and I was about to suffocate 157 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: on in the pile for a little bit. But that 158 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 3: was good, and you know, any of the season. Obviously 159 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: we didn't win the game, but for me personally having 160 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: having a decent game and going in the next season 161 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: pretty confident. Yeah. 162 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: How'd you like playing kind of that big slot role 163 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: that you played for much of the year. 164 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: I dabbled at it a little bit in college, didn't 165 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: play it too much. If we had sixty snaps, probably 166 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: sixty snaps I probably played like ten times. But I 167 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: liked it's it's a different perspective on the game for sure, 168 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: and this OTAs I'm hopefully going to focus on safety 169 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: and just kind of get back and because it's, like 170 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: I said, it's a different game being that close to 171 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage covering those quick slot guys versus 172 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: being in the back end having to be more rangy, 173 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: have a bigger grasp of everything that's going on in 174 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: the field, and honestly, it just makes me a better player, 175 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: more versatile, and just I think it helps with injuries 176 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: and stuff happens with guys and I can be moved 177 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: around where the coaches need me and just hope to 178 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: be available for that. 179 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: So do you view kind of playing that traditional safety 181 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: role as more of a return to what you're used 182 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: to or is it like a big learning curve this 183 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: year as you're working on that during these OTAs and 184 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: these offs and practices. 185 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: I'd say a little bit of both, because that's what 186 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: I did from ever since high school playing traditional safety role. 187 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: But most of last year I was playing nickel And 188 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: if you focus on that so much throughout the week 189 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: that I mean, you're still connected into what the safeties 190 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: are doing, but it's just it's just different seeing the 191 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: game from different levels, not backpelling as much and just 192 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: getting the groove and stuff like that, and that's what 193 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: a tiers are for. So, like I said, I got 194 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: a lot to learn in both areas, but I feel 195 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: like if I can put it all together, it'd be 196 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: really good. 197 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: So last year, did you feel like you were spending 198 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: your time almost training as a cornerback more than really 199 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: in the safety rooms. 200 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's weird because one snap I'll be 201 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: covering like a five nine, one hundred and eighty pounds 202 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: slot right the next time I'm covering like a six six, 203 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty pounds tight end. Yeah, it's weird 204 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: week to week good player to play it, but like 205 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: I said, it just makes me. It's like I have 206 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: little like folders I can just tap into and like 207 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: this is what I'm gonna need for this snap. That's 208 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: what I need for this snap. And once I get 209 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: all those down, then I feel like I'm gonna be 210 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: really good. 211 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: So do you expect that this year? 212 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, like you said, with with Chuck being traded, 213 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: the expectation is more of a traditional safety role for you, 214 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: But do you expect that it will still be very 215 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: versatile at the same time. 216 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And it's honest at the end of the day, 217 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: whatever the defense needs. I feel like we have a 218 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: very deep secondary, very deep defense as a whole. So 219 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: I just got to get in where you fit in. Uh, 220 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: And I feel like I can fit in a lot 221 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: of spots. So they need me at Nickel for sure, 222 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: need me at Dime, no doubt safety, they need me 223 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: at three Tech. I'm gonna try to make it happen, 224 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: but I don't know it's going to. 225 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Well, we got to make that interception happen. Oh yeah, 226 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean you didn't get one last year. You got 227 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: to have that dance. 228 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: Like that dance, Well it was you didn't have one. 229 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: My mom count Yeah it was taken away. 230 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: Did they call I'm trying to remember, do they call 231 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: you for holding or somebody else? 232 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: I think it was it was Chuck. We were Yeah, 233 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: it was Chuck and then they called him on it 234 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: was I'm a little biased, but its call. But I'm running, 235 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: try to show off my turn skills a little bit 236 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: and I get into the end zone and I turn 237 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: around like nobody's celebrating. I'm like, Dan, that must be 238 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: a flag. And so I was like reset, refocus, never happened. 239 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: And then Chuck was actually apologizing to me on the 240 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: sideline stuff. I was like, nah, it's good, bro, Like, 241 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: we just gotta go out and win the game. But yeah, 242 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: that was a tough one. 243 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: See that PFF from us to counted it. 244 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: I know, right my mom, like I said, my mom 245 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: definitely counts it. 246 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well on this couch, count count. 247 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: So in terms of Chuck, you know, when the trade 248 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: happens with him, and there was you probably knew it 249 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: was a possibility that he could He talked about at 250 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: the end of the season he might not be here. 251 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 4: But when that when that happens, you know, in one hand, 252 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: you're disappointed to lose a teammate and a friend and 253 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: all that, But on the other hand, it's kind of 254 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 4: a show of faith in the organization and you and 255 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: saying like, hey, we feel really good about Kyle being 256 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: a starting safety and being the person who can step 257 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: into that role. 258 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: So how is that how you looked at it as 259 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 5: kind of a show of faith And what did that 260 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: that mean to you at the time? 261 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first off, I mean Chuck was ultimate 262 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: professional while I was here, no matter what stuff that 263 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: was going on with him upstairs or whatever. His contract 264 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: situation was he was always the same guy every day 265 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: he was leader of our defense, had the green dot. 266 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: So in terms of leadership wise, like shoes to fill, 267 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna do everything that Chuck did 268 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 3: in that sense right now, for sure, because he left 269 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: such a big mark while he was here and he's 270 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: gonna do great things. But at the same time, I 271 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, I mean I can. I feel like 272 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: I can slide into that role for sure and perform 273 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: at a high level. I feel like that's what Ravens 274 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: drafted me for and that's what I'm here for, and 275 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: I feel like I can definitely produce. 276 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Are the dv's excited about the offensive additions this offseason, 277 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Like you get to go against Odell Beckham now, yeah, 278 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: hey all those guys. 279 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And it's cool to see some new 280 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: faces around the building and yeah, I mean even throughout 281 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: the staff and stuff like that. I mean, and just 282 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: a short time I've been here the past two weeks, 283 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: it seems like everybody's yelling really well. So yeah, and 284 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: that's one thing about that I learned throughout the years, 285 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: just being in Baltimore, being with the Ravens it's it's 286 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: such a family environment, Like new guys come in and 287 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: like you're accepted like that, and you're kind of getting 288 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: all the inside jokes and everything's going on. So I mean, yeah, 289 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: defensive wise, whole building wise, I think everybody's excited about 290 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: the offense, and you know, we got eight back and 291 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: he's obviously the biggest piece and it's just going to 292 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: trigger down from there and just have a good year. 293 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: So what did you work on this off season from 294 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 4: a training standpoint when you go back to ner day 295 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: and you start working with the strength the strength coaches 296 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: there while you were in school, Like, what was your 297 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: favorite the spring practice? 298 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: Weren't she too? 299 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was trying to get my little I was 300 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: a little ga, a little graduate assistant, so just trying 301 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: to say worked, yeah a little bit. I wasn't making 302 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: any like cards and stuff like that, but. 303 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: Just to show the whose boss still so. 304 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: Right? I was in there shoes at one point. But 305 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: now it was cool, Uh, since I left early, my 306 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: whole class was still there. Yeah. So I lived with 307 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: two of my boys that I had lived with before. 308 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: DJ Brown cam Heart shout out. But it was cool 309 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: just to see them all again and workout wise, I 310 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: was would get some of the workouts that they would do. 311 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Being honest, I wasn't waking up at five forty five. Yeah. 312 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: So I would have class and I would have a 313 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: little lunch break, probably like two and a half hours 314 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: before my last two classes of the day. So I 315 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: would get to the facility, I would eat, lift, run, 316 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: and then I would take the lift that they did 317 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: that morning and do that. And then I was doing 318 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: like I made this thing up, like mile a day 319 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: keeps the doctor away. So I would just hit a 320 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: mile and treadmill and then uh, in addition to that 321 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: whatever field stuff I was doing. So but if I 322 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: had some advice to not run a mile and treadmill with. 323 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: A waight vest on, you would do that. 324 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: I dyeah. I did it and I was almost passed out. Yeah, 325 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: it was tough. It was tough. 326 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 327 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: And when you go through your first NFL season, do 328 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: you go into an off season from a training standpoint 329 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: being like, Okay, this is where I want to improve 330 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: whatever it is, like, whether it's strength or whether it's agility, 331 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: whether it's flexibility, Like I don't know what it would 332 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 4: be for you, but do you kind of go in 333 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: with a mindset or is it just general strength and 334 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: fitness and kind of a baseline. 335 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like well for me, I was my 336 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: off season is unique because I had surgery, so I 337 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: write risk surgery, and it was a lot of rehab 338 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: at the same time, uh, taking advantage of my lower body, 339 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: increasing lower body strength, and then once I got my 340 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: arm back, trying to catch it up with my left 341 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: arm still not fully even, but it's getting there, and 342 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: that's what I was focusing on a lot, and just 343 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: trying to get my golf swing back. 344 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Most importantly, it's important you feel like you're in good 345 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: shape now with the wrist. 346 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, wrisk was really good. Actually they did. I flew 347 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: out the veil and got it done first week of February, 348 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: so it was about a ten week recovery. 349 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: And before the tripery. 350 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm not like lying about it anything. It was 351 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: actually from the. 352 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 5: Is there any searches in veil? 353 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: It happened like uh, I think around Christmas of the 354 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: season and then saw I'll get taken care of after 355 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: the season and tell you I did it that right, right, right? 356 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: So I want to talk a little bit about your background. 357 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned your mom and whatnot. And you 358 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: know she was born in South Korea. You are a 359 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Korean American and uh, you know, I think only one 360 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: of three active players. 361 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: I think, so Kyler Murray and Jung Huku. 362 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. 363 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: And so what does what does that mean to you 364 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: to kind of carry that? 365 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is it's you don't really realize 366 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: it because like being mixed. It's kind of like everybody 367 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: assumes that I'd like black and white just by the 368 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: way that I look. But I mean I am Korean obviously, 369 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: and I didn't know that there was only three Korean 370 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: active players. But it's it's crazy because there's so many 371 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: people in Asia but not a big football market. And 372 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: I feel like if the game was more global that 373 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: people would love it and America would probably still dominate, 374 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: but it might be in the Olympics eighty years from now. 375 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: But I mean it's special. There's not a like you said, 376 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: not a lot of guys in the NFL that are 377 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: of Korean descent. So I feel like the Korean fans 378 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: that are around the world, they look to us first 379 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: and set a good example and maybe for Korean Asian 380 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: kids in America now playing football to show them it's 381 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: possible and stuff like that. 382 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: So we're going to London this year, You're going a 383 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: campaign to go over to Korea go play in Asia. 384 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: That would be dope. That be dope. Yeah, we need 385 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: like a week for the time change. Yeah yeah, yeah, 386 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: but that would be dope. We do need to work 387 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: on that. 388 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it would be cool. 389 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: I mean obviously the NFL has grown the game and 390 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: they've played They're playing in Germany now, and there's more 391 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: and more international markets, so who knows. 392 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, that could be the case. 393 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: And you know, you just have an interesting background in general. 394 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: Your dad you were born in Greece. Your dad was 395 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: professional basketball players, so you moved around, lived in Russia, 396 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, I as a kid, you ultimately grew up 397 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: in Atlanta. Yes, So what was like all the moving 398 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: around and living in different countries and learning the different cultures, Like, 399 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: how did all of that experience shape you as a person? 400 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: You think, Well, I didn't get a lot of it 401 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: because we came back to States when I was about three, Okay, 402 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: so I don't remember a lot of it. My brother, 403 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: on the other hand, he was going to like primary 404 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: school and like stuff like that, like when they were 405 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: in Italy, they had a like British like all the 406 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: British people send their kids this this school, and so 407 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: he thought the school he went to, and he would 408 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: come home saying like trousers and stuff like that, like, yeah, 409 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: pick up some slang. But I think it helped a lot, 410 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: like just growing up and how to greet people and 411 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: how to understand meeting new people. My parents traveling around 412 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: the whole world, they understand how different cultures exist and 413 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: how you're supposed to carry yourself around certain people. And 414 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: I think they taught me a lot and helped me 415 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: mature really fast on just how to carry yourself around people. 416 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 4: I gotta believe that in like an NFL locker room, 417 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: that even helped me in an NFL locker room or 418 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: college locker room, like you got people from all different 419 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: parts of the country of the world, like different socioeconomic status, 420 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: like all these different it's a melting pot. And so 421 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: do you feel like that helps you kind of just 422 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: assimilate into a new team and a new environment when 423 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: you come into the NFL. 424 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I think it just goes along on 425 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: my upbringing, Like I feel like I'm kind of a 426 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: chameleon when it comes to wherever I'm at, whatever I room, 427 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: whatever room I need to adapt to, or I know 428 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: what persona to take on, or what these what people 429 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: I'm with, what they respond well to. I feel like 430 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm good at that and not a superficial or fake well. 431 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: I just feel like I can embrace a lot of 432 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: different people and fit pat myself on the back a 433 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: little bit. But I feel like I fit in with 434 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: a lot of different crowds and get down with a 435 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: lot of people. 436 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: Did you travel a lot internationally like when you were 437 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: a kid, even when you're when you're in Atlanta. 438 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: I was on I went to on a cruise, I 439 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: went to Mexico. I really didn't travel that much. I 440 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: went to We played in Ireland in high school. I 441 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: want to go to Costa Rica soon. 442 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. 443 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: I got to do a europe trip, like go from 444 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: England and finish in Greece's. 445 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you gotta get you. Have 446 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: you been back to Greece? 447 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I need to go to get to 448 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: the Motherland. Right Apparently, I was the have the record 449 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: for longest and heaviest baby ever born in the hospital. 450 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Really in Greece period or that in. 451 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: That hospital or yeah, in the hospital. Yeah, be like a. 452 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 5: Grip they get your picture up on the wall. 453 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: Baby. Yeah. 454 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: I think that was like twenty three inches or twenty 455 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: four to twenty three inches and nine point eight pounds. 456 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: A big boy. 457 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Maybe, No, Garrett said before we saw this, he said 458 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: he thinks you grew. 459 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you grew. 460 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: This offseason, everybody has been saying that. Yeah, you're told 461 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: I might need to measure myself. I don't know. 462 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Like I was like Yannis like grew like a couple 463 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: of inches after he came into the NBA, and I 464 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: was like, I think Kyle is on that same trajectory. 465 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Is my shoes? 466 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 467 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: So I'm not the only one who has said this. 468 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: Maybe it's because I got maybe you got. 469 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: The yes exactly. 470 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Cool. Well, Kyle, thanks for joining us, man, I appreciate 471 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 472 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 5: Appreciate it man. 473 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: So big. 474 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: Thanks to Kyle Hamilton for stopping by the seat Geek Studio. Also, 475 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: we want our listeners and our viewers to know that 476 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: DraftKings is the official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 477 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: Ravens and it has a limited time offer. Okay, here's 478 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: what you need to do. You download the Draft Kings 479 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: Sportsbook at today, use the promo code flock. 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And I think, look, he's going to be 487 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: a really important piece of this defense, and I'm excited 488 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: to see him in that kind of traditional safety role. 489 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: I think he's going to do really well. 490 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Traditional is probably not the right We should probably stop 491 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: using the word traditional because I don't know that it's 492 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: going to be a traditional that's fair safety role. But 493 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be certainly more of a safety role 494 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: than what we saw last year for much of the season. 495 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's he started out the year kind of 496 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: in that role. You know, he was deeper on some 497 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: plays than others, and then it kind of evolved to 498 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: what the Ravens needed you know, and what was going 499 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: to help him win games. And now obviously with Chuck 500 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: being gone, I think the evolution continues for him. But 501 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: to your point, I'm excited to see it, you know. 502 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a guy at Notre Dame, a 503 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: rangy dude. I mean he's an athletic specimen. Yeah, with 504 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: with big time speed and his size and all that. Like, 505 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's going to be just the 506 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: put him in a you know, in a box, not 507 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: dull box, but in a box and say yeah, he's 508 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: he's this, you know, every defensive play of the game. Like, 509 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be moving around a fair amount. 510 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're probably right. 511 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: And also, you know, Mike McDonald talked recently during a 512 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 4: press conference about getting multiple safeties on the field, and 513 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: to your point, like, I think it's last year was 514 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: a function of kick your best guys on the field, 515 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: and I think that's going to be the case again 516 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: this year. I think it remains to be seen if 517 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: they end up in these passing situations with three safeties 518 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: on the field, what does that mix look like and 519 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: how do they deploy each of those guys? 520 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, right, well, it might be you know, they might say, 521 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: we want more, we'll use a corner in that situation 522 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: as opposed to a safety like we did from last year, 523 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: and the matchups might dictate that. You know, last year, 524 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: like Kyle said, you know, he's he's covering like five 525 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: 'ot nine, you know, one hundred and eighty pound receivers 526 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: at times like maybe this year because of the growth 527 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: that Pepe shows or or some other you know, corner 528 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: shows that he'll be the guy that's responsible for doing 529 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: that as opposed to Kyle for example. Yeah, right now, 530 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I would still expect if there's a if you're going 531 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: against Travis Kelcey, let's say, here's a big body tight end, 532 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: like give me Kyle Hamilton on it. Yeah, even if 533 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: it's you know, line up on the line. Basically that 534 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: tight end is is out split out, Like give me 535 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton in that situation. 536 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: But I think that. 537 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: You know, Chuck being the green guy never left the 538 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: field last year. Yeah, so you still want to get 539 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Haiilton on the field a lot. That was the 540 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: way to do it, and this year it's a little 541 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: bit of a different situation. 542 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he's My expectation is that He's 543 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: probably gonna be a guy that hardly ever leaves the 544 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: field this year. 545 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: You know that would affect that same Yeah, you. 546 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: Know, just about every defensive snap and with him and 547 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 4: Marcus Williams as that tandem back there, I just think 548 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: it's a really that gives Mike McDonald some the ability 549 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 4: to be creative and how he uses those guys and 550 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: they they I think they play off each other well, 551 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: at least on paper. Like you know, I just think 552 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: that their their skill set has gives the Ravens like 553 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: a lot of options in that secondary, Like those are 554 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: two really good safeties to go along with Marlon at 555 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: cornerback Rocky as sand Like, I just feel like there's 556 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: they can be creative and how they use them, and 557 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: I think the secondary should should once again be really 558 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 4: good with Kyle being a key piece of it. 559 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 560 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that we don't know about, 561 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: like we're just talking about his who is that slot corner. 562 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: That's what we don't It could be. 563 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: Pepe, It could be Pepe Brandon Stevens, but the Ravens 564 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: said that he's playing more traditional safety as well right 565 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: this year. John Harbus say, at least during these offers practices. Now, 566 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: Brandon Stevens is kind of a jack of ball trades. 567 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: He's been an outside corner, he's been a. 568 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: Safety, He's hasn't really played in the slot. 569 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, Kyu Blue Kelly is a guy who was 570 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: an outside corner at Stanford, but is could he potentially be. 571 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: A slot option? 572 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 4: Jalen Armor Davis, he's a little bit more an outside guy. 573 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: The Ravens right have like a lot of more outside corner. 574 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, could rock you Sin right, Let's say Jalen 575 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Armor Davis has a great summer, right, could when they 576 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: go three corners on the field, could Rock your Sin 577 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: play in the slot and Jalen Armor Davis on the outside? Yeah, 578 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't think out of the Roman possibility. I mean 579 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: you saw Marlon Humphrey played in the slot. Now he's 580 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: a special, very unique player. Yeah, but I don't think 581 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: that's it. 582 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: It's not. 583 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, Rocky Sin has played some he he's primarily 584 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: been an outside corner, but he's played some of the slot. 585 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: And you know, as a guy who draws a lot 586 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: of comparisons to Tavon Young, naturally kind of think all right, 587 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, the way he plays the game. 588 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: Could could that be a fit who does? 589 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that'll be something that's interesting to see. And 590 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 4: OTAs are taking place this week, so we're gonna get 591 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 4: a chance to see more from the guys, you know, 592 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: just in terms of who looks good. And there's more 593 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 4: players here certainly this week as the Ravens are going 594 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: through this next phase of the off season program and 595 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: some of the veterans who hadn't been here previously have 596 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: arrived this week, so it's a chance to see them 597 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 4: in action, which is good and you know, I think 598 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: it's kind of another exciting step from this offseason process. 599 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, we've talked a lot about 600 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: the defense. Obviously it's a very big week and weeks 601 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: ahead of OTAs and Mantory mini camp. For the offense, 602 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Todd Monkin is installing this offense. Football school 603 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: is one thing, but you know, when you don't have 604 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson here, and as we've talked about and some 605 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: of the other weapons, how much can you really do. 606 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: So now with that changing, you know, I think that 607 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: it's a really important month for all of them to 608 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: kind of get on the same page. You get a 609 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: familiarity with each other strike up some chemistry, you know, 610 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: between those targets and whatnot. So very big, very big 611 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: month of May here. 612 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: And earlier this week on Monday, it was the first 613 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: day of OTAs ye big deceiver side Bateman out there 614 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: on the field. 615 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: For sure. 616 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 4: Saw Bateman who's coming off major foot surgery for that 617 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: Liz Frank which happened in November, So he had surgery 618 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: in November. He's back on the field now in May. 619 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 5: You know, that's encouraging and the focus for him. 620 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: Really. 621 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: Like to me, when I look at the offense, there's 622 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: kind of two main things that I see as things 623 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: that need to happen. The first is the new system 624 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: that gets into place, yep, which is probably the most important. 625 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: That's the most significant one. New offensive coordinator, new system, 626 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: all that. Number two is that you need to have 627 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 4: this group healthy and like you have some big question 628 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: marks at the receiver position on the health front in 629 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: that Bateman and Odell Beckham Junior are coming off of 630 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: major injuries and so all signs are positive on them 631 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: right now. But I think it's a really big indication 632 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: that Bateman is able to get on the field during 633 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: an OTA practice exactly Ravens are gonna be cautious with him. 634 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: It's not like they're going to put him out there 635 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: and full go on that first day, but like there's 636 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: going to be a ramp up period. But the fact 637 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: that he's on the field in May is a great 638 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: sign for this team. 639 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, we've talked so much about with good reason, been 640 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: so excited about the addition to obj and Zay Flowers 641 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: pick that you know, Rashot Bateman is still a critical 642 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: piece in my mind to the offensive success this year. 643 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean not as much as last year when the 644 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Ravens really went to the season and you know, we 645 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: are all kind of saying if Bateman goes down, it's trouble. Yeah, 646 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens are better fortified this year. 647 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's a handle an injury. 648 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: But still, I mean, Bateman is going to be a 649 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: starting wide receiver for first round pick with all the 650 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: talent in the world. Like, if this guy stays healthy 651 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: on the field all year, watch out, Yeah totally. 652 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Like I mean he could be a big time wide 653 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: receiver for this team. Yeah, big time. 654 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 4: Like I know, we're not gonna go through our predictions yet, 655 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: We've got time, you know, but like it's kind of 656 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 4: tricky for me right now to think, like, all right, 657 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: who leaves the receiving corps in yards this year? 658 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I don't think that's an easy I don't like. 659 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: There's between between the top three there. It's hard for 660 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: me to like pick someone out right now and say Odell's. 661 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: Definitely gonna be the guy or Bateman's definitely gonna be 662 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 5: the guy. 663 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: Like, it's hard, and I think part of that will 664 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: be answered based on health. But that's why I said, like, 665 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: the health component of this is massive, and it's great 666 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: to see him out there on the field during an 667 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: offseason practice. 668 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Anyway, a lot to come. 669 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna watch practice on Wednesday and hear from Ravens players. 670 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: So we'll be back with you later this week with 671 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: our OTA Week one takeaways. And then, of course, if 672 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: you haven't done so already, make sure you subscribe, rate, 673 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: and review the Lounge podcast and also to our Ravens 674 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Press Past podcast, where you'll find all the press conferences 675 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: from Wednesday Wednesday's media availability, listen to those al right there, 676 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you later this week.