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Speaker 1: What's up? KP? You good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm great? Man?
Speaker 1: You great? You know you know one of the things
Speaker 1: that many people do know but many people may not know,
Speaker 1: is how how how impactful you've been to help helping
Speaker 1: artists ascend from ATL coaching even beyond that. So I
Speaker 1: guess I guess the thing I want to ask you
Speaker 1: first is like, what was the first act that you
Speaker 1: are responsible for part partially responsible for bringing through the door.
Speaker 2: Take us back to the Oh okay, so yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess that be the group I was in PA, Parental Advisory. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like ninety that was ninety two. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: ended up getting signed pebble We met Pebbles at TLC
Speaker 2: video shoot where it was auditioned for a video shoot,
Speaker 2: and she let us audition.
Speaker 3: And signed us and that was the start of it.
Speaker 1: And you were that time DJ, the DJ.
Speaker 2: But somehow it always seemed like I was the spokesperson,
Speaker 2: like I kind of ended up being the mouthpiece a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, somewhere are they now? Where are they now?
Speaker 2: Well? Reese, first of all, he produced like both of
Speaker 2: those Lloyd you and get it around the world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: him and Jasser did those records, and Mellow Mellow still
Speaker 2: rights and works, you know, like Mellow. I think got
Speaker 2: a little more frustrated with the business.
Speaker 1: Side of it. And then after parental advisory, the next
Speaker 1: app would be.
Speaker 2: That I am responsible like for walking out because I've
Speaker 2: worked with a lot of people. Like it's weird because
Speaker 2: I don't know how it's hard to take credit for
Speaker 2: some of shit because it's like you meet people who
Speaker 2: are talented and you kind of show up and support it,
Speaker 2: like like it's the credit thing is weird. It's like
Speaker 2: when people call somebody their artists, it's like that that's
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 1: A lot of people, let's say give you credit for
Speaker 1: a tip they say, man, K Peter Reeson tip got
Speaker 1: through the door, not to say he wouldn't have because
Speaker 1: he was tipped.
Speaker 2: No, I mean what it was I was I was
Speaker 2: in the right place to recognize what he was doing
Speaker 2: when maybe people weren't paying attention or seeing it properly.
Speaker 3: So like I just understood it.
Speaker 2: Like I think that's really what it comes down to
Speaker 2: any of this stuff, Like especially artist trying to get
Speaker 2: signed and ship, they just want to get with somebody,
Speaker 2: like it's so important to get with somebody who sees you.
Speaker 1: Was it hard to take in some street music to
Speaker 1: the face because we heard that tool that It was
Speaker 1: like they wasn't really trying to.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, but what's funny is that's how
Speaker 3: I got my label there.
Speaker 2: That's how I got Ghetto Vision because that was there
Speaker 2: was a period where I was almost going because the
Speaker 2: group PA we were signing the dream Works out in
Speaker 2: LA and I would go go out there for meetings
Speaker 2: a lot, and they offered me a job to come
Speaker 2: do and dream Works and they and when I found
Speaker 2: out how.
Speaker 3: Much they pay people as opposed to what I was
Speaker 3: getting paid.
Speaker 2: At the time, you know, it was just like you know, different,
Speaker 2: and you know, it was just one of those things
Speaker 2: where it's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh man, this much, this is the rate for
Speaker 3: what I do.
Speaker 2: So I came back. As matter of fact, they gave
Speaker 2: me the benefits package. They gave me a whole thing
Speaker 2: before I left. So I came back to Atlanta, met
Speaker 2: with La and told him about it, like really, like
Speaker 2: sat down. It was like, look, this is what they're offering.
Speaker 2: I got a kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like no, but no, more.
Speaker 2: Like just this.
Speaker 3: My og is still like it's still a it's a
Speaker 3: real conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a conversation based on like, I know,
Speaker 2: they're looking at me for what I'm doing here with us,
Speaker 2: so I'm not I'm not above and beyond that that thought.
Speaker 3: But what but what he said was something real. He
Speaker 3: was like, well that was a different That label.
Speaker 2: Is funded different. It was.
Speaker 3: It was Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 4: It was like that we see at the end of
Speaker 4: the movies too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: They were labeled too though, so they had movie money
Speaker 2: making records. So you know, he basically explained to me,
Speaker 2: He's like, well, my deal isn't that. But you know,
Speaker 2: I understand if you do it. But what I also
Speaker 2: understood was going out there, I was gonna have to
Speaker 2: teach them what I knew, which was going to slow
Speaker 2: me down. Whereas here in Atlanta and that the face,
Speaker 2: I was working with a team with people that I
Speaker 2: could throw no look.
Speaker 4: Passes to right, So let me ask you this. So
Speaker 4: how did I'm sorry?
Speaker 2: And then so I'm sorry to finish it. So I
Speaker 2: don't know why I got off there, but my bad.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so when I when I had the conversation
Speaker 2: with la, he was like, look, I can't give you
Speaker 2: that kind of money, but I give this opportunity and
Speaker 2: give you a production deal so you can do the
Speaker 2: things that you want to do. Because that was a
Speaker 2: part of it. It was like, you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: to do some stuff that wasn't necessarily a face even yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know young bloods and t I aren't necessarily
Speaker 2: as shiny as some of the things they want to face,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like it was and at that
Speaker 2: night I came up with a name because he was like, okay,
Speaker 2: well let's do that.
Speaker 1: What you got a name?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, your shit is
Speaker 2: shiny and whatever, my my vision will look.
Speaker 3: It's like a little ghetto and he was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's a ghetto vision.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's my So that goes into my question,
Speaker 4: like how did you working at the face while simultaneously
Speaker 4: spearheading the whole entire ghetto vision movement kind of like
Speaker 4: mold you into the music mogul and cool lass nigga
Speaker 4: that you are today.
Speaker 2: I was a cool lass nigga first, No, I mean
Speaker 2: I think I became a music mobile based on the
Speaker 2: person I was.
Speaker 3: If that's a mogul is what you want to call it.
Speaker 2: But it's like like I got into the into every
Speaker 2: situation I've gotten into was based on me being honest
Speaker 2: and being myself. So I mean, you know, it's like
Speaker 2: I joke about the cool last Nigga part, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: I think what it is is I'm just comfortable. So
Speaker 2: like I don't no matter who I'm around, I'm I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I can see you for who you are and
Speaker 2: not be threatened by or you know, you know, and
Speaker 2: I don't have to be intimidating them.
Speaker 4: Like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's said, what was your role in what?
Speaker 1: For real? What was I am other? What was the
Speaker 1: name of it?
Speaker 3: I am mother?
Speaker 2: So head of music bying mother, Like I went over
Speaker 2: there when when I left Atlantic in it like twenty fourteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I went over there, like I left Atlantic, and
Speaker 2: when I left, I called him leaving the office like bro,
Speaker 2: like something had happened and I was like, let me,
Speaker 2: I had to leave, and he was like, well, shit,
Speaker 2: good you come run this shit now. And it was
Speaker 2: like really like a again.
Speaker 3: It was like me being myself with people I know
Speaker 3: and trust.
Speaker 2: Those opportunities is kind of they've been there for me,
Speaker 2: Like I'm blessed in that way.
Speaker 1: What do you think you do best? Like creating or executive?
Speaker 1: What like do so what do you think?
Speaker 3: I think it depends on what the situation is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like like I've done enough of the job
Speaker 2: to know enough about him. It's almost like like a
Speaker 2: foreman who's like to play, like because I come from
Speaker 2: being in a group, from DJ and producing like all
Speaker 2: those things we were doing. I was making show tapes
Speaker 2: for dance groups in high school for talent shows, so
Speaker 2: I understood how to put a show together. Like so
Speaker 2: that led me into being like music director for for
Speaker 2: real in his shows and.
Speaker 4: Just understood transitions.
Speaker 2: Understood transitions. Yeah, and you know it's it's again. It's
Speaker 2: like all my high school shit is what is all
Speaker 2: I'm doing? Like I'm kind of living a very immature
Speaker 2: as life but with understanding.
Speaker 4: So how does it feel like to kind of bring
Speaker 4: your whole beginning full circle? I don't want to say
Speaker 4: to your end, but to your current now from being
Speaker 4: the DJ that you are, but now you've kind of
Speaker 4: perfected your craft and you're like one of the best
Speaker 4: of the best.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. No, I mean I've loved it the
Speaker 2: same the whole time. So it's never not been there,
Speaker 2: never not been a part of what I was doing.
Speaker 2: So if anybody met with me when I was at
Speaker 2: Sony as EVP of Black Music, they would turntable stuff
Speaker 2: in my in my office, like I would sit in
Speaker 2: there after hours, and like the records we were making,
Speaker 2: I would play them in contact with other records I liked.
Speaker 2: So it just made it easy for me to know
Speaker 2: if I really liked this ship or if it's just
Speaker 2: like the moment.
Speaker 3: Or you know, it's just like put it in play.
Speaker 2: So that like the DJ part is probably the most
Speaker 2: consistent talent or the most consistent tool.
Speaker 3: I an't used in my whole career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's taste, it's it's reading the room, it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's it.
Speaker 3: You have to pay attention.
Speaker 1: Being in it so long. How do how do you
Speaker 1: continue to adapt to the change of the music.
Speaker 2: I still shop with my kids, like I still go
Speaker 2: in the world where they go. So I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not the get off my porch old nigga. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not that. I like seeing new people, new arts.
Speaker 3: I like hearing new music.
Speaker 2: So it's like again, it's like I really just get
Speaker 2: to check ship out all the time. And and and
Speaker 2: I'm blessed in a way that people still allowed me in.
Speaker 1: The le.
Speaker 4: So how did you discover yellow wool?
Speaker 2: That's you know what?
Speaker 3: Bear Courtney seals?
Speaker 2: Bear hit me one day when I was one one
Speaker 2: time a guy when I worked, I was e VP
Speaker 2: of Sony Urban Man right, and and Bear called me
Speaker 2: one day. I was like, you know, hey, man, I
Speaker 2: met this.
Speaker 5: Uh that's a pretty good impression.
Speaker 2: I think I think you should listen to him. And
Speaker 2: so I flew down and and he performed for me,
Speaker 2: and like I want to say, it was like a
Speaker 2: rehearsal space. It might have been Marven's but I can't remember,
Speaker 2: but it was fresh off and they were having some
Speaker 2: kind of It was a conference down here at the time,
Speaker 2: so he was coming from the conference to meet me
Speaker 2: at the rehearsal space. He came in and performed. It
Speaker 2: was just me sitting in a chair. But he performed
Speaker 2: like like it was like it was like a full
Speaker 2: like a festival's niggas jumping on ship on top of speakers.
Speaker 4: He was he got a lot of energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was.
Speaker 2: He was busting. So that night I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: and what I liked about it? He was Southern white. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he rolled, he rolle beats different, like because the
Speaker 2: way I used to like, I'm not I don't really,
Speaker 2: I'm not a person who rides around and listens to
Speaker 2: Eminem in the car, like, you know, appreciate how dope
Speaker 2: he is, but it ain't my It's too for me.
Speaker 3: Whereas Yellow Wolf. Yeah, it was like it's on the
Speaker 3: it's on it.
Speaker 2: And Wolf he rapped like withdraw so it had a
Speaker 2: melody to it. So yeah, but he was doing that
Speaker 2: while performing his ass off. But I met him here
Speaker 2: in Atlanta through there.
Speaker 1: Okay, how engaged are you in like new music, Like
Speaker 1: do you listen to a lot of new music? Do
Speaker 1: you be on play list? Do you do you keep
Speaker 1: up with the new young waves and everything.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say I keep up because it's kind
Speaker 2: of it's hard to keep up like and still have
Speaker 2: like a real life, like because it's so much it's
Speaker 2: so much streaming. Like but like I hear the things
Speaker 2: that they cut through, I feel like I'm at my
Speaker 2: at my age, right, I'm not supposed to hear it first, right,
Speaker 2: like like it's weird, Like I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's my role no more.
Speaker 2: Mine is to recognize when somebody else has got it
Speaker 2: how I can help, so if it makes it to me,
Speaker 2: it's that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: What's the names that stand out to you?
Speaker 2: Standout? I mean and and and it's probably I don't know,
Speaker 2: just like regular but it's like it's it's like the
Speaker 2: road ways, it's a songwriters. It's let me think, like
Speaker 2: that's such a trick, Like obviously I said jids money
Speaker 2: bag Yo twenty one. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, okay, And that's the other part, Like I
Speaker 3: know a lot of songs, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who sings these songs, you know, a little buddy from Detroit,
Speaker 2: a little dude from you know, it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I know the sounds one I know the people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I heard the word yesterday from from Shiloh Dions
Speaker 2: and I was like, it wasn't bad, but it felt
Speaker 2: like what it feels like right now, Like it's like, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: The other dude is going crazy to uh the ball.
Speaker 3: LaMelo Angelo. Yeah, I heard that too, like that kind
Speaker 3: of jaman.
Speaker 2: But you know, but again, it's not a lot of
Speaker 2: artists that I can like be like I like that
Speaker 2: artists like.
Speaker 3: A bunch of songs.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, so okay, specifically talking about
Speaker 4: the Leangelo ball records, do you think that people are
Speaker 4: gonna discredit the record because they feel like he's a
Speaker 4: gifted ballplayer.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if the world
Speaker 2: worked like that no more, I think people accept what
Speaker 2: they like from whoever gives it to him, unless somebody
Speaker 2: supplies them with it more consistently. Like I don't think
Speaker 2: I don't think you got that kind of I don't
Speaker 2: know if brand loyalty and that kind of shit, like
Speaker 2: that's kind of that that thought. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that applies as much in celebrity because I don't because
Speaker 2: the other part goes into what they're going for, Like
Speaker 2: is that is he going for being a forever MC
Speaker 2: or is he just want to have a moment like
Speaker 2: he got an opportunity, like you see Jake Pauldham take
Speaker 2: advantage of the like, let like why wouldn't.
Speaker 3: We support him doing something if it's good?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's your.
Speaker 1: What's your most memorable moment? Like from Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Clubs, God memorable moment?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a this is like pre pre
Speaker 2: money in the air, okay, meeting young bloods, meeting young
Speaker 2: Bloods and Chili Pepper and seeing them in the club
Speaker 2: throwing the football across the balcony over a dance floor,
Speaker 2: but like having real fun like.
Speaker 3: Animal house style, like wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was like I was that, like that's yeah
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was it was like that that memory is
Speaker 2: stuck because it's like that feels like Atlanta to me.
Speaker 2: It's like it's people partying, it's bottles over here, it's
Speaker 2: it's football players over here, it's you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: some baseball, some.
Speaker 3: Dope boys over here.
Speaker 2: It's out of town, and it's these two niggas throwing
Speaker 2: footballs across the across the balcony.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just it's like and nobody tripping facts.
Speaker 1: You know one thing you mastered as long as you've
Speaker 1: been in the game. Oh no, one knows like personal
Speaker 1: stuff about you, like.
Speaker 2: Man, don't start this ship.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no no, We're not trying to bad
Speaker 6: personal stuff.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: That ain't the person. I don't do it in the.
Speaker 1: Positive personal thing.
Speaker 3: I get the studio, studio home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, scratched that.
Speaker 5: No, basically saying like how you avoid all the weird
Speaker 5: ship in his name?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go home like like legit, I go home.
Speaker 2: And two like you ain't never seeing me out at
Speaker 2: the at the at the after just because I'm I
Speaker 2: hear about it like I a matter of fact, I've
Speaker 2: done enough free camera phone.
Speaker 3: To know what it's what it's like.
Speaker 1: Cool. But another part of it is the statement that
Speaker 1: I tell people that they say, in order to make
Speaker 1: it in this industry, you have to rock a certain way.
Speaker 1: You can be yourself and make it in this industry.
Speaker 3: But it's where you want to make it too, Like
Speaker 3: I know where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not trying to go as well, though,
Speaker 2: so I just don't ever I don't like I know
Speaker 2: myself so and it's not a judgment, it's it's just okay,
Speaker 2: this some sh it ain't for me right, Like I
Speaker 2: like my kids. I'd rather kick it with my kids
Speaker 2: if I got the time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If I'm not working to support them, I'd rather kick
Speaker 3: it with them.
Speaker 1: See what they have to.
Speaker 4: Say.
Speaker 1: Anything else when.
Speaker 2: You haven't regrets like not signing M absolutely not, because
Speaker 2: I don't think anything works if you force it past that.
Speaker 2: Like everything I like, I'm cool with everything I got,
Speaker 2: every artist I'm associated with, every contribution like that was
Speaker 2: where I was supposed to be. Did you miss I
Speaker 2: didn't miss it, miss, but you had an opportunity of
Speaker 2: a part of absolutely. But I was at a place
Speaker 2: that I didn't feel like he could get off what
Speaker 2: he was doing. I was at Sony. Sony is super corporate.
Speaker 2: I know how much time it takes to get shit approved.
Speaker 2: I know I know how they get if you make
Speaker 2: a move and they don't know. I understood what kind
Speaker 2: of artists could thrive in it, but I also knew
Speaker 2: how they could stunt his growth and hindering. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And I still look at everything. It's the same way.
Speaker 2: I'm like, at some point I'm gonna go home to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'mnna be in the club. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: club and we're gonna sit there. He gonna be like, man,
Speaker 2: what what the fuck y'all doing? And I'm gonna know
Speaker 2: what they're doing. I told you, but it's just like, bro,
Speaker 2: this ain't what they do. Like so it was really
Speaker 2: a conversation like many men. I met with him in
Speaker 2: Jazzy the same day they went over to Death Jam.
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, you're dress of the Death.
Speaker 3: Jam Like like I'm I'm really because they get it.
Speaker 2: You got shake shake over there and with like shake
Speaker 2: is over there, moving l a like there's somebody who
Speaker 2: is listening, but there's also somebody who understands, Like I
Speaker 2: understand it. But if I understand that, the person I
Speaker 2: got to talk to to move things out the way.
Speaker 2: If they're not, if they're gonna question it, if they
Speaker 2: want to understand it too much, it's gonna.
Speaker 4: Explaining or take too much time to break it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be over.
Speaker 4: Yeah the wave is gonna be gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, you missed that, bitch breakpoint you you're done?
Speaker 1: What role you played in that? Kendrick got right, y'all
Speaker 1: got to grab it for that, right, What role you play?
Speaker 2: I contributed, like, you know, yeah, I feel like that's
Speaker 2: one of the ones I contributed.
Speaker 3: I had I heard something I said to the Farrell.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, fuck it and kept it and.
Speaker 2: He did it for another artist that the artists didn't
Speaker 2: like it or they didn't feel it the same way.
Speaker 2: It's sat for a year or two. Kendrick heard the
Speaker 2: hook that you know, the me and Fill had done
Speaker 2: before and wrote everything else and yeah, ship.
Speaker 3: My role was ship.
Speaker 1: I rolled.
Speaker 2: I rolled the bitch out. I rolled, you know, like
Speaker 2: I contributed and appreciated that whole month up getting in
Speaker 2: these games trophies, I mean like, oh, like a Grammy.
Speaker 1: I got a Grammy, but.
Speaker 2: That actually that was the first award I've ever got actually,
Speaker 2: like other than like you'll get a forty under forty
Speaker 2: or uh, you know, you'll have a hot year like
Speaker 2: at a label and you'll get some ship, but like
Speaker 2: a real like peer group, music industry wide, the Grammy.
Speaker 2: But I'm cool with that because it happened in a
Speaker 2: point where I needed it to happen, Like at that
Speaker 2: that point where you're like, oh shit, this might be
Speaker 2: about open and you know, and doing what I would
Speaker 2: normally do in a space where people I would normally
Speaker 2: do it with still turned into something that was like
Speaker 2: more like a like the blue check to the career
Speaker 2: type shit mm hmm. What's the balance between like in business,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a balance as much as
Speaker 2: it's got to be understanding. It's got to be it
Speaker 2: should be an understanding of who does what and who
Speaker 2: knows what, because I think people try to do all
Speaker 2: of the ship and that's where it goes bad, like
Speaker 2: a lot of times, because everybody wants to be like
Speaker 2: That's why I'm scared of that mobile thing because it
Speaker 2: sounds like y'all do it all, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: you need teams, right, so you have to respect the
Speaker 2: positions and you got to understand the position to know
Speaker 2: who to put in. And I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people jump into it because it's easier to get famous
Speaker 2: than it is to get to be successful.
Speaker 1: Facts mm hmm. What do you think street music or
Speaker 1: street street music and the culture of it started in Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Like who was the first artist or one of the
Speaker 1: first artists the hard boys, the hard boys. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's that's like get me out of that ship and
Speaker 1: where did it go from there? It was a little
Speaker 1: bit a little bit of the journey. Where where did
Speaker 1: it go from? Then?
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of saying street because it's
Speaker 3: like okay, keyloaded me and street music based.
Speaker 2: On who was who was paying for you can't leave
Speaker 2: get on either.
Speaker 3: See what happened for sure?
Speaker 2: You know the man shout out to everybody who made
Speaker 2: a record that inspired everybody who made another record.
Speaker 6: Yes, I guess I'm saying because they just look they
Speaker 6: just looked at us at one point because it was
Speaker 6: kind of just that it was just booty shape some
Speaker 6: of the street.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying the street music because who was making it.
Speaker 4: Who was putting the street niggas were making the booty
Speaker 4: shake music?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, street niggas. Hammer was a street nigga.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Is it just someone who hustled? Is it just someone
Speaker 3: who literally.
Speaker 1: Like we won't go there? Like trap music? Street music,
Speaker 1: that feel of getting your car at that time. I
Speaker 1: guess you and your Caprice Classic whatever it is, you
Speaker 1: got your speakers and you not get It's a different
Speaker 1: vibe than.
Speaker 3: Like okay, okay, I'll say okay, I say this, I
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: I know we're trying to. I know we're getting that.
Speaker 2: Yes to me. Tips started the pride of trap music
Speaker 2: by actually just saying that's what it was, right, But
Speaker 2: it was there were people who were doing music about selling,
Speaker 2: there were people that were drug dealers, talking about dancing.
Speaker 2: There was everybody doing everything, but Tip put a stamp
Speaker 2: on it, right. So like I'm gonna say, yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like we ushered in a pride to you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like elevated or evolved hustlers. Like it's like
Speaker 2: because it wasn't just pride of selling drugs. It's the
Speaker 2: album start. His first album started was like Forgave Myself.
Speaker 2: Like that's conscious rap when you think about it, it's
Speaker 2: it's just I'm aware of what's happening, and I'm explaining
Speaker 2: you because I'm aware. Yeaheah, it's absolute, like it's just him.
Speaker 2: It's it's first of all, Tips super skilled as a writer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that nigga can can really articulate the moment better
Speaker 2: than a.
Speaker 1: Lot of people.
Speaker 3: And because that's hiss experience, he can.
Speaker 2: He can he can express it like a couple of
Speaker 2: people can in a way that gives you detail and
Speaker 2: like where you feel like, oh that's.
Speaker 3: What that's what it's smelled like in there, like very vividly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like, you know, to me again, I say,
Speaker 2: it's like elevated street music's street music, but it's it's
Speaker 2: still art.
Speaker 4: But I feel like, going back to what we were
Speaker 4: just talking about about, how like it was the street
Speaker 4: niggas making the booty shake music. It's all about like.
Speaker 3: Well, it was like there was street people paying for
Speaker 3: them niggas to make like.
Speaker 4: Not like like okay, let me let me, let me
Speaker 4: give you an example, like just for instance, like the
Speaker 4: sixty nine with the fucking TITSI roll, these niggas were
Speaker 4: selling dope with gold teeth in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were.
Speaker 4: It wasn't nothing funny, switchy, witchy about them or nothing.
Speaker 1: But they were.
Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm saying, That's what was like,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what was going on at the time.
Speaker 4: But it was just like, like I said, it was
Speaker 4: in blocks of time because like even at the Atlanta
Speaker 4: Street niggas, dope niggas that were making booty Shake music
Speaker 4: and they had all the money and whatever and that
Speaker 4: were like rapping to the holes about whatever they were doing.
Speaker 4: They were doing it because that's what was going on
Speaker 4: in time. You had freak nick, you had all the
Speaker 4: shit going on where it was like it was it
Speaker 4: was an up tempo vibe in up tempo field. Like
Speaker 4: it wasn't like, Okay, shoot them up bang bang niggas
Speaker 4: standing on the corner for twenty four hours or no
Speaker 4: shit like that. Niggas were really getting money, having fun,
Speaker 4: fucking with holes. So that's what they were rapping about,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. And it didn't take
Speaker 4: nothing away from niggas. It was just like you know,
Speaker 4: the time frame.
Speaker 2: I think fun changes depending on the era, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like fun now. I mean for me, I don't that's.
Speaker 3: The other part. I don't go out a lot because
Speaker 3: it ain't fun. It's like it's just not fun.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like watching them. I'm so I don't like
Speaker 3: watching people just suck on hook all night.
Speaker 1: We had fun to put it on.
Speaker 2: We had fun, man, listen, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But it's like, it wasn't that the amazing shit is
Speaker 2: as much as it's called put thish it on.
Speaker 3: Wasn't nobody putting on. Everybody was just being themselves in
Speaker 3: clothes and cool clothes, youth.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot of losses come with this game.
Speaker 1: It didn't go as playing, Like what type of lessons
Speaker 1: you learned from your losses?
Speaker 2: Keep going bro Like the lesson is sh is going
Speaker 2: to happen to everybody? Like it's depending on what you know. Again,
Speaker 2: it's your circumstance that dictates how bad or how good
Speaker 2: your your shit can turn out.
Speaker 3: And and that's decision making.
Speaker 1: You got a moment where you where you know, you
Speaker 1: put a lot of shit in and that ship just
Speaker 1: didn't go right.
Speaker 2: You read, yeah that the originally that first Tip album,
Speaker 2: that first Tip album was it didn't go right for
Speaker 2: a bunch of Like now in hindsight, and I can
Speaker 2: see where it all went.
Speaker 3: That shit hard though, no see.
Speaker 2: Okay here, let me okay, so I'm gonna save my part.
Speaker 2: It would be considered a break based on how successful
Speaker 2: he is now right, But it did the groundwork to
Speaker 2: get him.
Speaker 1: Like I make that up. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a mixtape.
Speaker 2: It's like it sold one hundred and seventy some thousand
Speaker 2: copies and real you know and physical. Yeah yeah, but but.
Speaker 3: Over seventy weeks, so that meant every week.
Speaker 2: Somebody else was like, I fuck with that, Like it
Speaker 2: was sunding like five thousand a week, but like fifty
Speaker 2: some weeks. And I was like, to me, that made
Speaker 2: sense from a from a business stand point, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: we need to be paying attention to hey, y'all, y'all don't.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't enough for the big company record. Huh No,
Speaker 2: through through the project to the people, you think, through
Speaker 2: the project to the neptube record.
Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to serious. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would have been unheard or to put dope boys in
Speaker 1: the trap out first, but that was the record. Y'all
Speaker 1: knew that was the record. As soon as we heard
Speaker 1: that out right record. The man were you talking.
Speaker 4: About y'all talking about different records?
Speaker 1: What's my name name? It was I saying that's what
Speaker 1: they pushed. It was a great no no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Yea. So his thing so we did that record right
Speaker 2: and understanding that, Okay, this the lesson I learned, don't
Speaker 2: show them all the ships you got, because I knew
Speaker 2: Dope Boys in the Trap was the first single. Like
Speaker 2: we all we were like, oh my god, we're about
Speaker 2: to sit this month on fire.
Speaker 3: And we get to it.
Speaker 2: Got we're in Atlanta. But this is the time where
Speaker 2: this din't It wasn't a record to before. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was on soundtrack, yeah, but but no, the when we
Speaker 2: got to matter of fact, we did that record while
Speaker 2: the Face was still in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: To the sh sound track.
Speaker 2: I did that on Ghetto Vision, like that soundtrack is
Speaker 2: on my label. But then La went to New York
Speaker 2: to Arista. So in between that, that's when we were
Speaker 2: about to drop Dope Boys in the Trap. He goes
Speaker 2: to New York and everybody there is the New York
Speaker 2: radio staff, we can't put this out. Nobody can play this.
Speaker 2: We can't play Dope Boys. That's that's crazy. And I
Speaker 2: was like all right.
Speaker 3: They were like, well what about this for real?
Speaker 2: This neptible record, because they were blowing up and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, that's my dude, Like we're I know that
Speaker 2: it's a dope record, but it's premature. It's like, like
Speaker 2: you're reaching.
Speaker 1: For what I knew.
Speaker 2: The rest of the album was like everything else about
Speaker 2: it was dope was it was telling a story almost
Speaker 2: exactly so, but in that story, that part of the
Speaker 2: story is yes, but but you don't know why these
Speaker 2: things go together. So anyway, all I did was, I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, for get, but I put Dope
Speaker 2: boys in the trap on the B side, so I'm serious,
Speaker 2: and we just worked the ship out of that so.
Speaker 1: Hard, even before the next time the mixtape in the
Speaker 1: Street and PC ship. But he was But that's that's
Speaker 1: the other thing I said about artists, when they know
Speaker 1: where they're going, you're not gonna stop.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I say I contributed, Like I'm I'm
Speaker 2: never goinna take credit for nobody work like in your talent,
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's.
Speaker 1: It's basically a label can suck your whole life up.
Speaker 2: None of the wrong decision like no different than the
Speaker 2: wrong ship, Like you know what I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: same thing. It's like you get into a relationship that's
Speaker 2: about your dreams, so ships in your head, so you
Speaker 2: gotta believe that these people you're talking to get or
Speaker 2: believe you like that they see that you can do
Speaker 2: pull off the ship you saying, you're thinking they got
Speaker 2: to see a ghett a vision. Yeah, Or you gotta
Speaker 2: find you gotta find the people who get it with you,
Speaker 2: because that that that's the only way gonna work.
Speaker 3: It ain't it ain't it ain't. It ain't a business,
Speaker 3: It ain't a game.
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing that you can play as a team
Speaker 2: and winning big without having the right team. Like when
Speaker 2: you play spades, when you know you're partner, y'all killing
Speaker 2: it because because you can see, you know what, you
Speaker 2: know what's about to happen, like up dropping Tip, right,
Speaker 2: they let him go, Like dropping is a is a
Speaker 2: strange word, because we asked for him to let Tip
Speaker 2: go because I was gonna take him over to Columbia
Speaker 2: with me. But then I got there and that's when
Speaker 2: Flip was there and we were about to do the
Speaker 2: deal and end up meeting. Somebody asked him a question
Speaker 2: about Flip, and I was like, Oh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: go bad.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: So when you do it, they trying to miss that
Speaker 5: no more. After you let Tip go, he he started
Speaker 5: believing in a lot of music.
Speaker 1: After that, well, he.
Speaker 2: He's still you know there is he's still believing in
Speaker 2: certain people, like he believed in in Future because he
Speaker 2: believed in Rico in Rocco, like he believed because Rico
Speaker 2: Roco knew and Roco said future was it and Future
Speaker 2: was Rico's cousin. He's like, Okay, there's a chance here
Speaker 2: that I think he understands, Like the proximity part. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure somebody does understand. Yeah, somebody got
Speaker 2: to be involved that understands. For really, I can communicate
Speaker 2: with it like shape yeah Jesus, Yeah, like I had.
Speaker 2: I had, Like I don't want to make it sound crazy,
Speaker 2: I had a gang of success at the face like
Speaker 2: because l A I could, I could communicate with him
Speaker 2: like we it worked in that way, Like so don't
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to come off like because even tips,
Speaker 2: it's like it just wasn't for that time exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, everybody worked, it worked the fun out.
Speaker 1: They say anything else, what executive a visionary inspires you
Speaker 1: the most? Namely probably from Atlanta, but it could be
Speaker 1: outside of Atlanta, like the person that you're like, man,
Speaker 1: they they beyond.
Speaker 2: It like pebbles. Ah, she was like she when we
Speaker 2: talk about like ghetto vision, like that's like she's the
Speaker 2: one who got in the streets in Atlanta. She's the
Speaker 2: one who who found us, who found t l C.
Speaker 2: You know who who kind of helped with imaging on
Speaker 2: Tony Braxton because when you think about she's an open ship.
Speaker 2: She she's fly already like it's like it's being from it.
Speaker 2: So you go, you can go anywhere to town to
Speaker 2: see it and know what it looked like. You know, Okay,
Speaker 2: this this is or this ain't for me because you
Speaker 2: know what it feels like.
Speaker 3: Who the goat.
Speaker 1: Producer from the city.
Speaker 2: Mpending on what you're talking about, my impact of seals
Speaker 2: just all around, I'm gonna stay organized, noise mm hmm,
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do all incompassing.
Speaker 3: If anybody got something said about that, call yeah, yeah right,
Speaker 3: I've never said that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Rico.
Speaker 3: Because I think people put so much on numbers.
Speaker 2: On number birds and and to put on like I
Speaker 2: think what what organized know is in the danger. I
Speaker 2: think what we represent more than anything is real people
Speaker 2: and some of the the more some of the more
Speaker 2: put on things feel goofy and like you wouldn't do
Speaker 2: that in front of your mama, Like I still like mama,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. It's like i'd be
Speaker 2: around my folks, I'd be around my kids, So I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think real and foundational Atlanta folks are really
Speaker 2: like they just want to get on about their business
Speaker 2: and make their money and be able to handle, you know,
Speaker 2: their responsibilities.
Speaker 1: What artists had the biggest impact out of Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Okas who who?
Speaker 1: You know? With the six Future?
Speaker 3: But how no future?
Speaker 1: You're right? You right, in fact, totally right impact. No,
Speaker 1: that was inspiration from him. They got you got inspiration
Speaker 1: he learned he did.
Speaker 2: When you put it that same But.
Speaker 1: How did the streets move when Jesus and Kill Drop,
Speaker 1: I mean Jesus.
Speaker 2: And Drop Okay sold ten million albums bro the streets everywhere,
Speaker 2: all the streets bought it, like ten.
Speaker 3: Million Our cast, you got the streets ain't just right there.
Speaker 1: Our cast made people who wanted to be in music
Speaker 1: kind of in Atlanta at the time. You get to
Speaker 1: think being doing music. If you told like I told
Speaker 1: my family, I'm gonna do music, I was like you
Speaker 1: what like, But after we saw our casts, like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe we can do music on this level. I guess
Speaker 1: you probably can't competit the errors.
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean because the era of the futures
Speaker 2: in he the biggest of it. He's like, he's going
Speaker 2: to impact a bunch of people out like think about
Speaker 2: all the things posts because actually Gouci right, like it's
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of it's all bricks, like to me,
Speaker 2: just trying to compare, Yeah, you can't have So I'm
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you right, I'm just saying the
Speaker 2: first to do it on a scale to give us
Speaker 2: pride because Jermaine was the first with hits.
Speaker 3: Well, no, Dallas was the first one to hit. Matter
Speaker 3: of fact, Dallas produced hard boys.
Speaker 2: So it's like that.
Speaker 3: So it's like, so everybody, it's hard to claim. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying that.
Speaker 2: You know. The reason I'm gonna say organize is based
Speaker 2: on at a moment where everybody was paying attention, our
Speaker 2: crew stood up and gave it pride to where you
Speaker 2: don't have to be from New York, you don't have
Speaker 2: to be from l A to be seen on a
Speaker 2: global scale.
Speaker 1: Facts, big facts in these the great conversations I just
Speaker 1: got just had wall. John never come up in these conversations.
Speaker 3: Just because But that goes into that what do we
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: What what what?
Speaker 2: What's to like the crazy Atlanta is so dope and
Speaker 2: it's so full of amazing talent, Like I'm talking about
Speaker 2: like goat level talent.
Speaker 3: It ain't like regular he had like a little John Yeah,
Speaker 3: like there's yeah, none of that.
Speaker 1: But but think about this.
Speaker 2: He went from.
Speaker 1: It's still it's still yeah, that's really to still.
Speaker 3: Is at one extreme and at one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Where where are you.
Speaker 3: In your set?
Speaker 1: John at that time?
Speaker 2: Because he it's gonna it's gonna start. It's gonna either
Speaker 2: you're gonna go there or you're gonna go blow the whistle.
Speaker 2: Like think about all this is John DIDs records. Like
Speaker 2: to me, John is like doctor Dre level producer, like.
Speaker 3: He is high level eating ship.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't get the credit because you don't think
Speaker 2: about because it looks so fun, you don't think about
Speaker 2: how how talented actually goes into Yeah like that ain't
Speaker 2: that ain't by mistake. He's been doing this this whole
Speaker 2: time at this same level. Like even when we were
Speaker 2: thinking about it, he was still his shots shots shot
Speaker 2: like you're still.
Speaker 3: Like, so it ain't it ain't. It's like that's why
Speaker 3: it's hard to say.
Speaker 2: Who who's the go, who's the best? Like many adult
Speaker 2: niggas here, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4: And even though we don't like really hear from him
Speaker 4: that as much now, like you can still drop a
Speaker 4: Little John record in Vegas in a mixed club and
Speaker 4: that ship turns upside down.
Speaker 2: Lit John is a common denominator and fun my nigga,
Speaker 2: like no matter where you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the most accurate description I've ever heard on.
Speaker 1: The east Side Boy is that though I know we
Speaker 1: have to get on.
Speaker 3: The East Side Boys ship, you know I'm talking about
Speaker 3: like they still.
Speaker 4: Performing, they still got the gas cans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, yeah wow, shout my nigga, Dug. We're
Speaker 2: gonna ask a question that he knows.
Speaker 4: Ye, he manages the east Side Boys, trying to get
Speaker 4: them home.
Speaker 1: What are they doing working?
Speaker 3: What I'm saying that they're being the east Side Boys?
Speaker 3: But it's just not with Little John.
Speaker 4: Okay, every dare I say that every.
Speaker 3: Record there is Little John and the east Side Boys.
Speaker 2: They have the right to go and perform.
Speaker 4: No, I know they have the right and all that,
Speaker 4: taking nothing from nobody. And like I said, dare I
Speaker 4: say this?
Speaker 2: But is is?
Speaker 4: Is there an east Side Boy without Little John?
Speaker 1: It was Little John and the two elements.
Speaker 4: That's just like saying.
Speaker 3: Diana, So at the moment, the surprise in that moment, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, the supremes can be the supremes, but in the
Speaker 4: total scheme of things, not taking any weight anything away
Speaker 4: from them because they contributed to the total package.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so this goes that, do you do you
Speaker 2: think it would be fair for them to be doing
Speaker 2: as much as a Little John based on how much
Speaker 2: Little John does?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're doing They're like.
Speaker 4: East Side it is capable for them to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what's your proudest, proudest moment? Proud as it
Speaker 1: comes from it in music and music.
Speaker 3: Ship still being here still well, I don't know it's relevant.
Speaker 2: But I'm here, Like, but I know I got the
Speaker 2: opportunity to keep doing shit like like, so I'm I'm
Speaker 2: proud that I ain't clowned out.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about the movies, y'all y'all tapped into the
Speaker 1: movie side.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a Lego. Now
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm in a Lego movie.
Speaker 2: I'm a Lego like a whole that's cool, you are?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Legos.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know leg So I got a Lego. So that's
Speaker 2: what I'm proud of that because my kids like that.
Speaker 2: They think that's the coolest ship. So yeah, actually I
Speaker 2: take that. Yeah, the Lego being a part of Pharrell's
Speaker 2: documentary is a good one because I think it's just
Speaker 2: it's it's super creative and it affirms that that I'm
Speaker 2: I'm in the right company for the things I like.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: How importantly it is you think it is to be
Speaker 5: around the right People's right about the right people.
Speaker 2: That's a paramo.
Speaker 3: That's that job one.
Speaker 2: Like if you around the wrong person for what you're
Speaker 2: trying to do, that you're always in jeopardy of that
Speaker 2: person doing shit they were going to do, Like and
Speaker 2: the thing is, you know what they're gonna do, Like
Speaker 2: we're gonna all just brought somebody anyway, like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And then they get there and they
Speaker 2: do some shit they were gonna do, and you're like
Speaker 2: that's me then, So I think you the most important
Speaker 2: shit in all of this is discerning, Like like I like,
Speaker 2: I watch I watch your evolution right for since being
Speaker 2: in the public, like from the MAC to now right,
Speaker 2: and it's like, based on your experiences and based on
Speaker 2: what you're exposed to, you process shit different.
Speaker 3: I can see it.
Speaker 2: You can see it happening to the point where the
Speaker 2: ship that I've seen you tolerate and not is different.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like all that shit
Speaker 3: is based on.
Speaker 2: The people that you're around. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 2: it's a one job. Won't get figured figure out who
Speaker 2: around because if you were to a circle full of squares,
Speaker 2: you gotta waffle, my nigga, like you are not doing well.
Speaker 1: You gotta what's the stuff that what's the stuff in
Speaker 1: the industry or the culture right now that makes you cringe?
Speaker 3: But there, hooker, you.
Speaker 1: Said you ain't letting.
Speaker 2: You know, cringe in real life. Bro, I don't petition.
Speaker 1: What's the petition and put that ship down.
Speaker 3: The section took the fun it is idiot, because you
Speaker 3: gotta have somewhere to put.
Speaker 1: The hook section first. I don't know, can't stand up
Speaker 1: and be smoking. Maybe you can't. Look.
Speaker 3: I burnt my hand because somebody was walking around the
Speaker 3: club with the hookah.
Speaker 2: And behind me.
Speaker 3: I guess by some adapt and put the ship down.
Speaker 2: So that's what my my trauma come from. What my
Speaker 2: that makes me crack? I don't you know, I don't
Speaker 2: pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: I don't like mm hmm re ship m M.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: If I don't, if it doesn't affect me in any
Speaker 2: positive way, I don't get invest So yes, I don't
Speaker 2: care that much.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Just who you think Beyonce is the greatest performer of
Speaker 1: all time? That's kind of random. We're just flowing on
Speaker 1: social media with the whole Christmas of all time. I mean, just.
Speaker 2: No, bro, Michael Jackson is the great Michael Jackson. Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson for sure, like you know, and and it's not
Speaker 2: that she's not great, like she's obviously great, but yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think so when he's in the space of his his.
Speaker 2: Own yeah, because that's like flat foot any like, without anything,
Speaker 2: he's Michael Jackson. You know, he's all of it back.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying she's not just saying that he
Speaker 2: did that in any way that I remember that the
Speaker 2: most showing it's the person that she references, it's the
Speaker 2: person that you know.
Speaker 1: So when you come to the next tier Beyonce, Chris Brown,
Speaker 1: what happens in that tier in your opinion?
Speaker 3: What's the question?
Speaker 1: The question? Is better? At all? Better?
Speaker 3: Nigga?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 3: You talking about this girl who runs the nation of women?
Speaker 2: Like like.
Speaker 3: Right, you know she the best?
Speaker 2: She the best, Like, ain't nowhere around that, Like she
Speaker 2: has an army of people the nigga you.
Speaker 1: Actually put it in the category if you ask.
Speaker 2: Them this, Yeah, they don't have to, Like there's nobody, like,
Speaker 2: nobody's disputing that. But you said all times, said Mike,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying now she Yeah, come on, and who
Speaker 2: who's doing it at that level with that kind of excitement,
Speaker 2: that kind of fandom, you know, like yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to give her that.
Speaker 1: Like if you had a chance to curate the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: will be your first artist?
Speaker 3: Any any hairtime job?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just one. Like they say, Okay, we're gonna let
Speaker 1: KP do the Haadtime show this year?
Speaker 3: Who would you put up there?
Speaker 2: Oh no, if you said this year, I'm still going Kendrick,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kendrick, But but I would dress it
Speaker 2: some things around it. But I think he's the most
Speaker 2: important hip hop artist, if he might be the most
Speaker 2: important black artist we got right now, based on what
Speaker 2: he's doing, based on what he stands for, based on
Speaker 2: what he says, and based on normally that's not commercial.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you think, like on the performance ship,
Speaker 1: like current artists and their performances might limit their longevity
Speaker 1: a little bit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean if you can't perform, you can
Speaker 3: only do what your song does.
Speaker 2: Because there are like when we talk about Beyonce, she's
Speaker 2: the star is that she's made it past how what
Speaker 2: her song is like because if you think about the
Speaker 2: Renaissance album, right, that's a huge tour, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: the album with the biggest record on it of her career.
Speaker 2: Like it's she's she's solidified herself that she's she knows
Speaker 2: that she has this already now she understands culture and
Speaker 2: taste and she's she's like she's being an artist and
Speaker 2: a performer, so you can sell a performance, you can
Speaker 2: sell a performance.
Speaker 3: No, she's always she's always been the product, Like she's
Speaker 3: always understood that the songs are fuel for her car.
Speaker 2: Like, the better the song, the bigger you're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like the more the more people can understand and relate
Speaker 2: to the song, you have a better opportunity. It's like
Speaker 2: saying hello properly.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Listen. So twenty twenty five, what's what's the
Speaker 1: goals for KP? Goals accomplishes you are? What are your
Speaker 1: goals now? Like moving into this new year?
Speaker 2: In your chapter, I have a TV show that I
Speaker 2: that I came up with with my homeboy guy and
Speaker 2: a friend of ours, Brett Matt wrote that I want
Speaker 2: to get off. That's it, Like, that's me. But the
Speaker 2: thing is, you wouldn't be like that. It's really a dope.
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's adult show and it's a
Speaker 2: real human it's an Atlanta Human show. But yeah, anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got a human comedy. What is It's like, it's
Speaker 2: situational comedy, but it's it's.
Speaker 3: On the podcast.
Speaker 1: But it's smart.
Speaker 5: I say that, so you So now I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: back to the movies. So you're really into the movie ship?
Speaker 5: Like fem the movies and ship now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean like I'm learning too, because it's
Speaker 2: like I'm not acting like I know this is something
Speaker 2: I wanted, Like he really.
Speaker 3: Directly and he paying, he paying like he is paying
Speaker 3: for his learning.
Speaker 1: He's doing it like he sent me some money for
Speaker 1: the role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because it's it's real ship. It's like, look,
Speaker 2: we really want to do this shit. It ain't weigh
Speaker 2: that's a business not like. This ain't vanity shit. This
Speaker 2: ain't like I think I probe myself on the fact
Speaker 2: that all the people I deal with really want it
Speaker 2: in a way that's past ego. It's almost like I
Speaker 2: gotta do this, like they're creative in a way that
Speaker 2: they can't help it. So it's like you see two
Speaker 2: about here doing comedy. He gonna do a movie or
Speaker 2: whatever he thinks he gonna he's gonna give it one
Speaker 2: hundred and again. Having the right people around you that
Speaker 2: inspires you, because that like I've been thinking about this
Speaker 2: show for maybe ten years, like I've I've just been
Speaker 2: writing random things that I'm like, that'll be dope, that'll
Speaker 2: be dope. But in the last two years I got
Speaker 2: it done. But that's partly because being around somebody who
Speaker 2: don't go to sleep.
Speaker 3: And it's like, man, what hold on?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm up, I might as well finish doing my ship,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's yeah, it just goes
Speaker 2: back to that having the people around you that inspire
Speaker 2: you is super important.
Speaker 1: How how important you like to keep fruit for relationships?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: If they if they bear fruit, try to keep it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I don't. I think.
Speaker 2: Trying to do it is weird if you have it,
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's like that's the hard with me because
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like all the relationships I got,
Speaker 2: they were built over circumstance situations like character testing, like
Speaker 2: so I know who I'm dealing with and they know
Speaker 2: who they're dealing with. Yeah, Like so it's like I
Speaker 2: think the weirdest shit and people that I'm going to
Speaker 2: this network event, so you just got to go talk
Speaker 2: to like random people no purpose, like like just a
Speaker 2: rule full of niggas who's saying I want to beat
Speaker 2: somebody like as opposed to go where the things you
Speaker 2: like are right, you're gonna want into people who like
Speaker 2: that shit too, and then y'all gonna talk about some
Speaker 2: shit that y'all like like, oh I could do it,
Speaker 2: Like that's all my relationships started in that space, like
Speaker 2: I'm where I want to be, so that way, I'm
Speaker 2: more likely. It's to meet people I want to meet.
Speaker 1: I can dig that. What do you do when people
Speaker 1: say make it like artists in the industry or just
Speaker 1: make it in the industry. What's your definition of make
Speaker 1: it or made it?
Speaker 2: Not being dependent on somebody else's decision whether or not
Speaker 2: you do it again, m or what you do tomorrow?
Speaker 1: What was your maid made it moment?
Speaker 2: I ain't had that yet.
Speaker 3: I'm successful, but i'm not. I'm not kick my feet up.
Speaker 1: Again fuel because that is that the way that you
Speaker 1: fuel and motivate yourself. K has made it.
Speaker 2: No, KP.
Speaker 3: The Great is a destination, Like I'm trying to get there, bro,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 1: Great, yourself great.
Speaker 3: I'm consistent, I'm I'm working hard. I'm like, yes, i think.
Speaker 1: I'm great at being me for sure, that's all I matter.
Speaker 1: Like I'm the best.
Speaker 2: KP out this bit, you made it? Yeah, So that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's it's but but I also
Speaker 2: understand that I'm not. I don't know. I just don't
Speaker 2: feel like i'm doing right. Yeah, So it's like I'll
Speaker 2: make it when when I don't have no more to give.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Josh Ship KP, the Great, Big Fact, I
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Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: You know what the real motivation is looking at mirror.
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