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Speaker 1: Big Bank. You don't be on nothing. I be on Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let me ask bring you big big facts.

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Speaker 1: The coaching labin, the ATL. You know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's time for big facts. What's up, Big Bank? What's up? Baby?

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Speaker 1: J d J scream I'm here. We got a special

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Speaker 1: guest today, KP the Great Kawan prappt whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call him. He's here. He about to chop it

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Speaker 1: up on big.

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Speaker 3: Having me preciate it.

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Speaker 1: What's up? KP? You good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm great? Man?

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Speaker 1: You great? You know you know one of the things

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Speaker 1: that many people do know but many people may not know,

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Speaker 1: is how how how impactful you've been to help helping

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Speaker 1: artists ascend from ATL coaching even beyond that. So I

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Speaker 1: guess I guess the thing I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: first is like, what was the first act that you

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Speaker 1: are responsible for part partially responsible for bringing through the door.

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Speaker 2: Take us back to the Oh okay, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: guess that be the group I was in PA, Parental Advisory. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was like ninety that was ninety two. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: ended up getting signed pebble We met Pebbles at TLC

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Speaker 3: And signed us and that was the start of it.

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Speaker 1: And you were that time DJ, the DJ.

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Speaker 2: But somehow it always seemed like I was the spokesperson,

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Speaker 1: You know, somewhere are they now? Where are they now?

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Speaker 2: Well? Reese, first of all, he produced like both of

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Speaker 2: those Lloyd you and get it around the world. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: him and Jasser did those records, and Mellow Mellow still

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Speaker 2: a little more frustrated with the business.

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Speaker 1: Side of it. And then after parental advisory, the next

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Speaker 2: That I am responsible like for walking out because I've

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Speaker 2: worked with a lot of people. Like it's weird because

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it's hard to take credit for

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Speaker 2: like like it's the credit thing is weird. It's like

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Speaker 2: when people call somebody their artists, it's like that that's

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Speaker 1: A lot of people, let's say give you credit for

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Speaker 1: a tip they say, man, K Peter Reeson tip got

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Speaker 2: No, I mean what it was I was I was

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Speaker 3: So like I just understood it.

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Speaker 2: Like I think that's really what it comes down to

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Speaker 1: Was it hard to take in some street music to

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, but what's funny is that's how

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Speaker 2: That's how I got Ghetto Vision because that was there

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Speaker 3: Like, oh man, this much, this is the rate for

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Speaker 2: So I came back. As matter of fact, they gave

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a conversation based on like, I know,

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Speaker 2: They were labeled too though, so they had movie money

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Speaker 4: Passes to right, So let me ask you this. So

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Speaker 2: And then so I'm sorry to finish it. So I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like it was and at that

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Speaker 1: What you got a name?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, your shit is

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Speaker 2: I was a cool lass nigga first, No, I mean

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Speaker 3: If that's a mogul is what you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: But it's like like I got into the into every

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Speaker 2: I think what it is is I'm just comfortable. So

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's said, what was your role in what?

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Speaker 3: I am mother?

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Speaker 2: So head of music bying mother, Like I went over

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Speaker 3: It was like me being myself with people I know

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Speaker 1: What do you think you do best? Like creating or executive?

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Speaker 1: What like do so what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like like I've done enough of the job

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Speaker 4: So how does it feel like to kind of bring

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. No, I mean I've loved it the

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Speaker 3: Or you know, it's just like put it in play.

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Speaker 3: I an't used in my whole career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's taste, it's it's reading the room, it's

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Speaker 3: You have to pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Being in it so long. How do how do you

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Speaker 2: I still shop with my kids, like I still go

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Speaker 2: in the world where they go. So I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not the get off my porch old nigga. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not that. I like seeing new people, new arts.

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Speaker 3: I like hearing new music.

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Speaker 2: So it's like again, it's like I really just get

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Speaker 2: I'm blessed in a way that people still allowed me in.

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Speaker 1: The le.

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Speaker 4: So how did you discover yellow wool?

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Speaker 2: That's you know what?

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Speaker 3: Bear Courtney seals?

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Speaker 2: I think I think you should listen to him. And

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Speaker 4: He was he got a lot of energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was.

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Speaker 2: He was busting. So that night I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: and what I liked about it? He was Southern white. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Whereas Yellow Wolf. Yeah, it was like it's on the

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Speaker 2: And Wolf he rapped like withdraw so it had a

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Speaker 1: Okay, how engaged are you in like new music, Like

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say I keep up because it's kind

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Speaker 2: like like it's weird, Like I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's my role no more.

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Speaker 2: Mine is to recognize when somebody else has got it

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Speaker 1: What's the names that stand out to you?

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Speaker 3: You know, okay, And that's the other part, Like I

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Speaker 2: Who sings these songs, you know, a little buddy from Detroit,

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Speaker 2: a little dude from you know, it's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I know the sounds one I know the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I heard the word yesterday from from Shiloh Dions

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Speaker 1: The other dude is going crazy to uh the ball.

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Speaker 3: LaMelo Angelo. Yeah, I heard that too, like that kind

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Speaker 2: But you know, but again, it's not a lot of

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Speaker 3: A bunch of songs.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, so okay, specifically talking about

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Speaker 4: the Leangelo ball records, do you think that people are

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if the world

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Speaker 2: I don't think you got that kind of I don't

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Speaker 2: know if brand loyalty and that kind of shit, like

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Speaker 2: that's kind of that that thought. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the other part goes into what they're going for, Like

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Speaker 2: or is he just want to have a moment like

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Speaker 2: he got an opportunity, like you see Jake Pauldham take

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Speaker 3: We support him doing something if it's good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's your.

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Speaker 1: What's your most memorable moment? Like from Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Clubs, God memorable moment?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a this is like pre pre

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Speaker 2: money in the air, okay, meeting young bloods, meeting young

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Speaker 2: Bloods and Chili Pepper and seeing them in the club

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Speaker 2: throwing the football across the balcony over a dance floor,

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Speaker 2: but like having real fun like.

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Speaker 3: Animal house style, like wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I was like I was that, like that's yeah

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: But it was it was like that that memory is

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Speaker 2: stuck because it's like that feels like Atlanta to me.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's people partying, it's bottles over here, it's

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Speaker 2: it's football players over here, it's you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: some baseball, some.

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Speaker 3: Dope boys over here.

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Speaker 2: It's out of town, and it's these two niggas throwing

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Speaker 3: It's like it's just it's like and nobody tripping facts.

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Speaker 1: You know one thing you mastered as long as you've

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Speaker 1: been in the game. Oh no, one knows like personal

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Speaker 1: stuff about you, like.

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Speaker 2: Man, don't start this ship.

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Speaker 6: No no, no, no no, We're not trying to bad

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Speaker 6: personal stuff.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: That ain't the person. I don't do it in the.

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Speaker 1: Positive personal thing.

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Speaker 3: I get the studio, studio home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, scratched that.

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Speaker 5: No, basically saying like how you avoid all the weird

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Speaker 5: ship in his name?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I go home like like legit, I go home.

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Speaker 2: And two like you ain't never seeing me out at

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Speaker 2: the at the at the after just because I'm I

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Speaker 2: hear about it like I a matter of fact, I've

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Speaker 2: done enough free camera phone.

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Speaker 3: To know what it's what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Cool. But another part of it is the statement that

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Speaker 1: I tell people that they say, in order to make

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Speaker 1: it in this industry, you have to rock a certain way.

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Speaker 1: You can be yourself and make it in this industry.

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Speaker 3: But it's where you want to make it too, Like

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Speaker 3: I know where I'm trying to go.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not trying to go as well, though,

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Speaker 2: so I just don't ever I don't like I know

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Speaker 2: myself so and it's not a judgment, it's it's just okay,

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Speaker 2: this some sh it ain't for me right, Like I

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Speaker 2: like my kids. I'd rather kick it with my kids

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Speaker 2: if I got the time. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not working to support them, I'd rather kick

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Speaker 3: it with them.

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Speaker 1: See what they have to.

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Speaker 4: Say.

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Speaker 1: Anything else when.

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Speaker 2: You haven't regrets like not signing M absolutely not, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything works if you force it past that.

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Speaker 2: Like everything I like, I'm cool with everything I got,

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Speaker 2: every artist I'm associated with, every contribution like that was

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Speaker 2: where I was supposed to be. Did you miss I

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Speaker 2: didn't miss it, miss, but you had an opportunity of

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Speaker 2: a part of absolutely. But I was at a place

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Speaker 2: he was doing. I was at Sony. Sony is super corporate.

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Speaker 2: I know how much time it takes to get shit approved.

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Speaker 2: I know I know how they get if you make

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Speaker 2: a move and they don't know. I understood what kind

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Speaker 2: how they could stunt his growth and hindering. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And I still look at everything. It's the same way.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, at some point I'm gonna go home to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I'mnna be in the club. He's gonna be in the

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Speaker 2: club and we're gonna sit there. He gonna be like, man,

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Speaker 2: what what the fuck y'all doing? And I'm gonna know

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Speaker 2: what they're doing. I told you, but it's just like, bro,

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Speaker 2: this ain't what they do. Like so it was really

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Speaker 2: a conversation like many men. I met with him in

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Speaker 2: Jazzy the same day they went over to Death Jam.

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Speaker 2: I was like, bro, you're dress of the Death.

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Speaker 3: Jam Like like I'm I'm really because they get it.

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Speaker 2: You got shake shake over there and with like shake

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Speaker 2: is over there, moving l a like there's somebody who

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Speaker 2: is listening, but there's also somebody who understands, Like I

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Speaker 2: understand it. But if I understand that, the person I

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Speaker 2: got to talk to to move things out the way.

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Speaker 2: If they're not, if they're gonna question it, if they

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Speaker 4: Explaining or take too much time to break it in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah the wave is gonna be gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, you missed that, bitch breakpoint you you're done?

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Speaker 1: What role you played in that? Kendrick got right, y'all

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Speaker 1: got to grab it for that, right, What role you play?

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Speaker 2: I contributed, like, you know, yeah, I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: one of the ones I contributed.

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Speaker 3: I had I heard something I said to the Farrell.

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Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, fuck it and kept it and.

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Speaker 2: He did it for another artist that the artists didn't

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Speaker 2: like it or they didn't feel it the same way.

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Speaker 2: It's sat for a year or two. Kendrick heard the

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Speaker 2: hook that you know, the me and Fill had done

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Speaker 2: before and wrote everything else and yeah, ship.

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Speaker 3: My role was ship.

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Speaker 1: I rolled.

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Speaker 2: I rolled the bitch out. I rolled, you know, like

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Speaker 2: I contributed and appreciated that whole month up getting in

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Speaker 2: these games trophies, I mean like, oh, like a Grammy.

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Speaker 1: I got a Grammy, but.

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Speaker 2: That actually that was the first award I've ever got actually,

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Speaker 2: like other than like you'll get a forty under forty

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Speaker 2: at a label and you'll get some ship, but like

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Speaker 2: a real like peer group, music industry wide, the Grammy.

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Speaker 2: But I'm cool with that because it happened in a

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Speaker 2: point where I needed it to happen, Like at that

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Speaker 2: that point where you're like, oh shit, this might be

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Speaker 2: about open and you know, and doing what I would

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Speaker 2: normally do in a space where people I would normally

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Speaker 2: do it with still turned into something that was like

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Speaker 2: more like a like the blue check to the career

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Speaker 2: type shit mm hmm. What's the balance between like in business,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a balance as much as

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Speaker 2: it's got to be understanding. It's got to be it

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Speaker 2: should be an understanding of who does what and who

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Speaker 2: knows what, because I think people try to do all

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Speaker 2: of the ship and that's where it goes bad, like

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Speaker 2: a lot of times, because everybody wants to be like

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm scared of that mobile thing because it

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Speaker 2: sounds like y'all do it all, and it's you know,

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Speaker 2: you need teams, right, so you have to respect the

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Speaker 2: positions and you got to understand the position to know

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Speaker 2: who to put in. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people jump into it because it's easier to get famous

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Speaker 2: than it is to get to be successful.

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Speaker 1: Facts mm hmm. What do you think street music or

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Speaker 1: street street music and the culture of it started in Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: Like who was the first artist or one of the

445
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: first artists the hard boys, the hard boys. Yeah, so

446
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: that's that's like get me out of that ship and

447
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: where did it go from there? It was a little

448
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: bit a little bit of the journey. Where where did

449
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: it go from? Then?

450
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of saying street because it's

451
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: like okay, keyloaded me and street music based.

452
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: On who was who was paying for you can't leave

453
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 2: get on either.

454
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 3: See what happened for sure?

455
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: You know the man shout out to everybody who made

456
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: a record that inspired everybody who made another record.

457
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 6: Yes, I guess I'm saying because they just look they

458
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 6: just looked at us at one point because it was

459
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 6: kind of just that it was just booty shape some

460
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 6: of the street.

461
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying the street music because who was making it.

463
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 4: Who was putting the street niggas were making the booty

464
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 4: shake music?

465
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, street niggas. Hammer was a street nigga.

466
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what.

467
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 3: Is it just someone who hustled? Is it just someone

468
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: who literally.

469
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: Like we won't go there? Like trap music? Street music,

470
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: that feel of getting your car at that time. I

471
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: guess you and your Caprice Classic whatever it is, you

472
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: got your speakers and you not get It's a different

473
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: vibe than.

474
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: Like okay, okay, I'll say okay, I say this, I

475
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: know what.

476
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: I know we're trying to. I know we're getting that.

477
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: Yes to me. Tips started the pride of trap music

478
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: by actually just saying that's what it was, right, But

479
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: it was there were people who were doing music about selling,

480
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: there were people that were drug dealers, talking about dancing.

481
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: There was everybody doing everything, but Tip put a stamp

482
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: on it, right. So like I'm gonna say, yeah, I

483
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: feel like we ushered in a pride to you know,

484
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: kind of like elevated or evolved hustlers. Like it's like

485
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: because it wasn't just pride of selling drugs. It's the

486
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: album start. His first album started was like Forgave Myself.

487
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: Like that's conscious rap when you think about it, it's

488
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: it's just I'm aware of what's happening, and I'm explaining

489
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: you because I'm aware. Yeaheah, it's absolute, like it's just him.

490
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: It's it's first of all, Tips super skilled as a writer. Yeah,

491
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: like that nigga can can really articulate the moment better

492
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: than a.

493
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Lot of people.

494
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: And because that's hiss experience, he can.

495
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: He can he can express it like a couple of

496
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: people can in a way that gives you detail and

497
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: like where you feel like, oh that's.

498
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: What that's what it's smelled like in there, like very vividly.

499
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like, you know, to me again, I say,

500
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: it's like elevated street music's street music, but it's it's

501
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: still art.

502
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 4: But I feel like, going back to what we were

503
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: just talking about about, how like it was the street

504
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: niggas making the booty shake music. It's all about like.

505
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: Well, it was like there was street people paying for

506
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: them niggas to make like.

507
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: Not like like okay, let me let me, let me

508
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: give you an example, like just for instance, like the

509
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 4: sixty nine with the fucking TITSI roll, these niggas were

510
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: selling dope with gold teeth in Florida.

511
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were.

512
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't nothing funny, switchy, witchy about them or nothing.

513
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: But they were.

514
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm saying, That's what was like,

515
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 4: you know, that's what was going on at the time.

516
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: But it was just like, like I said, it was

517
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: in blocks of time because like even at the Atlanta

518
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: Street niggas, dope niggas that were making booty Shake music

519
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: and they had all the money and whatever and that

520
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 4: were like rapping to the holes about whatever they were doing.

521
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: They were doing it because that's what was going on

522
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 4: in time. You had freak nick, you had all the

523
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: shit going on where it was like it was it

524
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 4: was an up tempo vibe in up tempo field. Like

525
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: it wasn't like, Okay, shoot them up bang bang niggas

526
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: standing on the corner for twenty four hours or no

527
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: shit like that. Niggas were really getting money, having fun,

528
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: fucking with holes. So that's what they were rapping about,

529
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. And it didn't take

530
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: nothing away from niggas. It was just like you know,

531
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: the time frame.

532
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: I think fun changes depending on the era, Like yeah, yeah,

533
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: like fun now. I mean for me, I don't that's.

534
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: The other part. I don't go out a lot because

535
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: it ain't fun. It's like it's just not fun.

536
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

537
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't like watching them. I'm so I don't like

538
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: watching people just suck on hook all night.

539
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: We had fun to put it on.

540
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: We had fun, man, listen, But that's what I'm saying.

541
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: But it's like, it wasn't that the amazing shit is

542
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: as much as it's called put thish it on.

543
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't nobody putting on. Everybody was just being themselves in

544
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: clothes and cool clothes, youth.

545
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot of losses come with this game.

546
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: It didn't go as playing, Like what type of lessons

547
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: you learned from your losses?

548
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: Keep going bro Like the lesson is sh is going

549
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: to happen to everybody? Like it's depending on what you know. Again,

550
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: it's your circumstance that dictates how bad or how good

551
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: your your shit can turn out.

552
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: And and that's decision making.

553
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: You got a moment where you where you know, you

554
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: put a lot of shit in and that ship just

555
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't go right.

556
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: You read, yeah that the originally that first Tip album,

557
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: that first Tip album was it didn't go right for

558
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: a bunch of Like now in hindsight, and I can

559
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: see where it all went.

560
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: That shit hard though, no see.

561
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay here, let me okay, so I'm gonna save my part.

562
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: It would be considered a break based on how successful

563
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: he is now right, But it did the groundwork to

564
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: get him.

565
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Like I make that up. It was.

566
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: It was a mixtape.

567
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: It's like it sold one hundred and seventy some thousand

568
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: copies and real you know and physical. Yeah yeah, but but.

569
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: Over seventy weeks, so that meant every week.

570
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: Somebody else was like, I fuck with that, Like it

571
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: was sunding like five thousand a week, but like fifty

572
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: some weeks. And I was like, to me, that made

573
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: sense from a from a business stand point, I'm like, okay,

574
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: we need to be paying attention to hey, y'all, y'all don't.

575
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: But it wasn't enough for the big company record. Huh No,

576
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: through through the project to the people, you think, through

577
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: the project to the neptube record.

578
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to serious. Yeah, it

579
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: would have been unheard or to put dope boys in

580
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: the trap out first, but that was the record. Y'all

581
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: knew that was the record. As soon as we heard

582
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: that out right record. The man were you talking.

583
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: About y'all talking about different records?

584
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: What's my name name? It was I saying that's what

585
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: they pushed. It was a great no no, no, no.

586
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: Yea. So his thing so we did that record right

587
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: and understanding that, Okay, this the lesson I learned, don't

588
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: show them all the ships you got, because I knew

589
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Dope Boys in the Trap was the first single. Like

590
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: we all we were like, oh my god, we're about

591
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: to sit this month on fire.

592
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: And we get to it.

593
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: Got we're in Atlanta. But this is the time where

594
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: this din't It wasn't a record to before. Yeah, that

595
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: was on soundtrack, yeah, but but no, the when we

596
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: got to matter of fact, we did that record while

597
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: the Face was still in Atlanta.

598
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: To the sh sound track.

599
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: I did that on Ghetto Vision, like that soundtrack is

600
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: on my label. But then La went to New York

601
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: to Arista. So in between that, that's when we were

602
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: about to drop Dope Boys in the Trap. He goes

603
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: to New York and everybody there is the New York

604
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: radio staff, we can't put this out. Nobody can play this.

605
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: We can't play Dope Boys. That's that's crazy. And I

606
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: was like all right.

607
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: They were like, well what about this for real?

608
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: This neptible record, because they were blowing up and I'm like,

609
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: you know, that's my dude, Like we're I know that

610
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: it's a dope record, but it's premature. It's like, like

611
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: you're reaching.

612
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: For what I knew.

613
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: The rest of the album was like everything else about

614
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: it was dope was it was telling a story almost

615
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: exactly so, but in that story, that part of the

616
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: story is yes, but but you don't know why these

617
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: things go together. So anyway, all I did was, I

618
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: was like, all right, for get, but I put Dope

619
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: boys in the trap on the B side, so I'm serious,

620
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: and we just worked the ship out of that so.

621
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Hard, even before the next time the mixtape in the

622
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Street and PC ship. But he was But that's that's

623
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: the other thing I said about artists, when they know

624
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: where they're going, you're not gonna stop.

625
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I say I contributed, Like I'm I'm

626
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: never goinna take credit for nobody work like in your talent,

627
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's.

628
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: It's basically a label can suck your whole life up.

629
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: None of the wrong decision like no different than the

630
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: wrong ship, Like you know what I mean, it's the

631
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: same thing. It's like you get into a relationship that's

632
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: about your dreams, so ships in your head, so you

633
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: gotta believe that these people you're talking to get or

634
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: believe you like that they see that you can do

635
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: pull off the ship you saying, you're thinking they got

636
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: to see a ghett a vision. Yeah, Or you gotta

637
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: find you gotta find the people who get it with you,

638
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: because that that that's the only way gonna work.

639
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: It ain't it ain't it ain't. It ain't a business,

640
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: It ain't a game.

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing that you can play as a team

642
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: and winning big without having the right team. Like when

643
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: you play spades, when you know you're partner, y'all killing

644
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: it because because you can see, you know what, you

645
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: know what's about to happen, like up dropping Tip, right,

646
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: they let him go, Like dropping is a is a

647
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: strange word, because we asked for him to let Tip

648
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: go because I was gonna take him over to Columbia

649
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: with me. But then I got there and that's when

650
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Flip was there and we were about to do the

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: deal and end up meeting. Somebody asked him a question

652
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: about Flip, and I was like, Oh, this is gonna

653
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: go bad.

654
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: So.

655
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: So when you do it, they trying to miss that

656
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: no more. After you let Tip go, he he started

657
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: believing in a lot of music.

658
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: After that, well, he.

659
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: He's still you know there is he's still believing in

660
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: certain people, like he believed in in Future because he

661
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: believed in Rico in Rocco, like he believed because Rico

662
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Roco knew and Roco said future was it and Future

663
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: was Rico's cousin. He's like, Okay, there's a chance here

664
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: that I think he understands, Like the proximity part. It's like, okay,

665
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure somebody does understand. Yeah, somebody got

666
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: to be involved that understands. For really, I can communicate

667
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: with it like shape yeah Jesus, Yeah, like I had.

668
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: I had, Like I don't want to make it sound crazy,

669
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: I had a gang of success at the face like

670
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: because l A I could, I could communicate with him

671
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: like we it worked in that way, Like so don't

672
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to come off like because even tips,

673
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: it's like it just wasn't for that time exactly.

674
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, everybody worked, it worked the fun out.

675
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: They say anything else, what executive a visionary inspires you

676
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the most? Namely probably from Atlanta, but it could be

677
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: outside of Atlanta, like the person that you're like, man,

678
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: they they beyond.

679
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: It like pebbles. Ah, she was like she when we

680
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: talk about like ghetto vision, like that's like she's the

681
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: one who got in the streets in Atlanta. She's the

682
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: one who who found us, who found t l C.

683
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: You know who who kind of helped with imaging on

684
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Tony Braxton because when you think about she's an open ship.

685
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: She she's fly already like it's like it's being from it.

686
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: So you go, you can go anywhere to town to

687
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: see it and know what it looked like. You know, Okay,

688
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: this this is or this ain't for me because you

689
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: know what it feels like.

690
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: Who the goat.

691
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Producer from the city.

692
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Mpending on what you're talking about, my impact of seals

693
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: just all around, I'm gonna stay organized, noise mm hmm,

694
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do all incompassing.

695
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: If anybody got something said about that, call yeah, yeah right,

696
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: I've never said that.

697
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Rico.

698
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: Because I think people put so much on numbers.

699
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: On number birds and and to put on like I

700
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: think what what organized know is in the danger. I

701
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: think what we represent more than anything is real people

702
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: and some of the the more some of the more

703
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: put on things feel goofy and like you wouldn't do

704
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: that in front of your mama, Like I still like mama,

705
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. It's like i'd be

706
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: around my folks, I'd be around my kids, So I don't.

707
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't think real and foundational Atlanta folks are really

708
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: like they just want to get on about their business

709
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: and make their money and be able to handle, you know,

710
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: their responsibilities.

711
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: What artists had the biggest impact out of Atlanta?

712
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: Okas who who?

713
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: You know? With the six Future?

714
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: But how no future?

715
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: You're right? You right, in fact, totally right impact. No,

716
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: that was inspiration from him. They got you got inspiration

717
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: he learned he did.

718
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: When you put it that same But.

719
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: How did the streets move when Jesus and Kill Drop,

720
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean Jesus.

721
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: And Drop Okay sold ten million albums bro the streets everywhere,

722
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: all the streets bought it, like ten.

723
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 3: Million Our cast, you got the streets ain't just right there.

724
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Our cast made people who wanted to be in music

725
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: kind of in Atlanta at the time. You get to

726
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: think being doing music. If you told like I told

727
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: my family, I'm gonna do music, I was like you

728
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: what like, But after we saw our casts, like, man,

729
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: maybe we can do music on this level. I guess

730
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: you probably can't competit the errors.

731
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean because the era of the futures

732
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: in he the biggest of it. He's like, he's going

733
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: to impact a bunch of people out like think about

734
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: all the things posts because actually Gouci right, like it's

735
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of it's all bricks, like to me,

736
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: just trying to compare, Yeah, you can't have So I'm

737
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you right, I'm just saying the

738
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: first to do it on a scale to give us

739
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: pride because Jermaine was the first with hits.

740
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Well, no, Dallas was the first one to hit. Matter

741
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: of fact, Dallas produced hard boys.

742
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: So it's like that.

743
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, so everybody, it's hard to claim. I'm

744
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: just saying that.

745
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: You know. The reason I'm gonna say organize is based

746
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: on at a moment where everybody was paying attention, our

747
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: crew stood up and gave it pride to where you

748
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: don't have to be from New York, you don't have

749
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: to be from l A to be seen on a

750
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: global scale.

751
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Facts, big facts in these the great conversations I just

752
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: got just had wall. John never come up in these conversations.

753
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: Just because But that goes into that what do we

754
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: you know?

755
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: What what what?

756
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: What's to like the crazy Atlanta is so dope and

757
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: it's so full of amazing talent, Like I'm talking about

758
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: like goat level talent.

759
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: It ain't like regular he had like a little John Yeah,

760
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: like there's yeah, none of that.

761
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: But but think about this.

762
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: He went from.

763
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: It's still it's still yeah, that's really to still.

764
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: Is at one extreme and at one o'clock in the morning.

765
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Where where are you.

766
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: In your set?

767
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: John at that time?

768
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Because he it's gonna it's gonna start. It's gonna either

769
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna go there or you're gonna go blow the whistle.

770
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: Like think about all this is John DIDs records. Like

771
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: to me, John is like doctor Dre level producer, like.

772
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: He is high level eating ship.

773
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: He just doesn't get the credit because you don't think

774
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: about because it looks so fun, you don't think about

775
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: how how talented actually goes into Yeah like that ain't

776
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: that ain't by mistake. He's been doing this this whole

777
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: time at this same level. Like even when we were

778
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: thinking about it, he was still his shots shots shot

779
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: like you're still.

780
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: Like, so it ain't it ain't. It's like that's why

781
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: it's hard to say.

782
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: Who who's the go, who's the best? Like many adult

783
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: niggas here, you're right, you're right.

784
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: And even though we don't like really hear from him

785
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: that as much now, like you can still drop a

786
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: Little John record in Vegas in a mixed club and

787
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: that ship turns upside down.

788
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: Lit John is a common denominator and fun my nigga,

789
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: like no matter where you go.

790
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the most accurate description I've ever heard on.

791
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: The east Side Boy is that though I know we

792
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: have to get on.

793
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: The East Side Boys ship, you know I'm talking about

794
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: like they still.

795
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 4: Performing, they still got the gas cans.

796
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, yeah wow, shout my nigga, Dug. We're

797
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: gonna ask a question that he knows.

798
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: Ye, he manages the east Side Boys, trying to get

799
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 4: them home.

800
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: What are they doing working?

801
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: What I'm saying that they're being the east Side Boys?

802
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: But it's just not with Little John.

803
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: Okay, every dare I say that every.

804
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: Record there is Little John and the east Side Boys.

805
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: They have the right to go and perform.

806
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: No, I know they have the right and all that,

807
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 4: taking nothing from nobody. And like I said, dare I

808
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 4: say this?

809
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: But is is?

810
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: Is there an east Side Boy without Little John?

811
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: It was Little John and the two elements.

812
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: That's just like saying.

813
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: Diana, So at the moment, the surprise in that moment, I.

814
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 4: Mean, the supremes can be the supremes, but in the

815
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: total scheme of things, not taking any weight anything away

816
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: from them because they contributed to the total package.

817
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so so this goes that, do you do you

818
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: think it would be fair for them to be doing

819
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: as much as a Little John based on how much

820
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Little John does?

821
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're doing They're like.

822
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 4: East Side it is capable for them to do.

823
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what's your proudest, proudest moment? Proud as it

824
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: comes from it in music and music.

825
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Ship still being here still well, I don't know it's relevant.

826
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: But I'm here, Like, but I know I got the

827
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: opportunity to keep doing shit like like, so I'm I'm

828
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: proud that I ain't clowned out.

829
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Okay, what about the movies, y'all y'all tapped into the

830
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: movie side.

831
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a Lego. Now

832
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm in a Lego movie.

833
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm a Lego like a whole that's cool, you are?

834
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Legos.

835
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

836
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: You know leg So I got a Lego. So that's

837
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: what I'm proud of that because my kids like that.

838
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: They think that's the coolest ship. So yeah, actually I

839
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: take that. Yeah, the Lego being a part of Pharrell's

840
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: documentary is a good one because I think it's just

841
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: it's it's super creative and it affirms that that I'm

842
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm in the right company for the things I like.

843
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

844
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: How importantly it is you think it is to be

845
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: around the right People's right about the right people.

846
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: That's a paramo.

847
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: That's that job one.

848
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: Like if you around the wrong person for what you're

849
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: trying to do, that you're always in jeopardy of that

850
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: person doing shit they were going to do, Like and

851
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: the thing is, you know what they're gonna do, Like

852
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna all just brought somebody anyway, like you know

853
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And then they get there and they

854
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: do some shit they were gonna do, and you're like

855
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: that's me then, So I think you the most important

856
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: shit in all of this is discerning, Like like I like,

857
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: I watch I watch your evolution right for since being

858
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: in the public, like from the MAC to now right,

859
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: and it's like, based on your experiences and based on

860
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: what you're exposed to, you process shit different.

861
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: I can see it.

862
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: You can see it happening to the point where the

863
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: ship that I've seen you tolerate and not is different.

864
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like all that shit

865
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: is based on.

866
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: The people that you're around. So yeah, I think it's

867
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: it's a one job. Won't get figured figure out who

868
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: around because if you were to a circle full of squares,

869
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: you gotta waffle, my nigga, like you are not doing well.

870
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: You gotta what's the stuff that what's the stuff in

871
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: the industry or the culture right now that makes you cringe?

872
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: But there, hooker, you.

873
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Said you ain't letting.

874
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 2: You know, cringe in real life. Bro, I don't petition.

875
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: What's the petition and put that ship down.

876
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: The section took the fun it is idiot, because you

877
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: gotta have somewhere to put.

878
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: The hook section first. I don't know, can't stand up

879
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: and be smoking. Maybe you can't. Look.

880
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: I burnt my hand because somebody was walking around the

881
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: club with the hookah.

882
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: And behind me.

883
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: I guess by some adapt and put the ship down.

884
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: So that's what my my trauma come from. What my

885
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: that makes me crack? I don't you know, I don't

886
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: pay attention to it.

887
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't like mm hmm re ship m M.

888
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

889
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: If I don't, if it doesn't affect me in any

890
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: positive way, I don't get invest So yes, I don't

891
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: care that much.

892
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

893
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Just who you think Beyonce is the greatest performer of

894
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: all time? That's kind of random. We're just flowing on

895
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: social media with the whole Christmas of all time. I mean, just.

896
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: No, bro, Michael Jackson is the great Michael Jackson. Michael

897
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: Jackson for sure, like you know, and and it's not

898
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: that she's not great, like she's obviously great, but yeah, I.

899
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Think so when he's in the space of his his.

900
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: Own yeah, because that's like flat foot any like, without anything,

901
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: he's Michael Jackson. You know, he's all of it back.

902
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying she's not just saying that he

903
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: did that in any way that I remember that the

904
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: most showing it's the person that she references, it's the

905
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: person that you know.

906
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: So when you come to the next tier Beyonce, Chris Brown,

907
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: what happens in that tier in your opinion?

908
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: What's the question?

909
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: The question? Is better? At all? Better?

910
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Nigga?

911
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: Come on?

912
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: You talking about this girl who runs the nation of women?

913
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: Like like.

914
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: Right, you know she the best?

915
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: She the best, Like, ain't nowhere around that, Like she

916
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: has an army of people the nigga you.

917
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: Actually put it in the category if you ask.

918
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: Them this, Yeah, they don't have to, Like there's nobody, like,

919
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: nobody's disputing that. But you said all times, said Mike,

920
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: but I'm saying now she Yeah, come on, and who

921
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: who's doing it at that level with that kind of excitement,

922
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: that kind of fandom, you know, like yeah, you got

923
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: to give her that.

924
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: Like if you had a chance to curate the super Bowl,

925
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: will be your first artist?

926
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: Any any hairtime job?

927
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just one. Like they say, Okay, we're gonna let

928
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: KP do the Haadtime show this year?

929
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Who would you put up there?

930
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, if you said this year, I'm still going Kendrick,

931
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kendrick, But but I would dress it

932
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: some things around it. But I think he's the most

933
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: important hip hop artist, if he might be the most

934
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: important black artist we got right now, based on what

935
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: he's doing, based on what he stands for, based on

936
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: what he says, and based on normally that's not commercial.

937
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you think, like on the performance ship,

938
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: like current artists and their performances might limit their longevity

939
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: a little bit?

940
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean if you can't perform, you can

941
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: only do what your song does.

942
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: Because there are like when we talk about Beyonce, she's

943
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: the star is that she's made it past how what

944
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: her song is like because if you think about the

945
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Renaissance album, right, that's a huge tour, but it wasn't

946
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: the album with the biggest record on it of her career.

947
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: Like it's she's she's solidified herself that she's she knows

948
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: that she has this already now she understands culture and

949
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: taste and she's she's like she's being an artist and

950
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: a performer, so you can sell a performance, you can

951
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: sell a performance.

952
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: No, she's always she's always been the product, Like she's

953
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: always understood that the songs are fuel for her car.

954
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: Like, the better the song, the bigger you're gonna be.

955
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Like the more the more people can understand and relate

956
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: to the song, you have a better opportunity. It's like

957
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: saying hello properly.

958
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Listen. So twenty twenty five, what's what's the

959
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: goals for KP? Goals accomplishes you are? What are your

960
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: goals now? Like moving into this new year?

961
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: In your chapter, I have a TV show that I

962
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: that I came up with with my homeboy guy and

963
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: a friend of ours, Brett Matt wrote that I want

964
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: to get off. That's it, Like, that's me. But the

965
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: thing is, you wouldn't be like that. It's really a dope.

966
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's adult show and it's a

967
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: real human it's an Atlanta Human show. But yeah, anyway, yeah,

968
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I got a human comedy. What is It's like, it's

969
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: situational comedy, but it's it's.

970
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: On the podcast.

971
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: But it's smart.

972
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: I say that, so you So now I'm gonna go

973
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: back to the movies. So you're really into the movie ship?

974
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 5: Like fem the movies and ship now.

975
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean like I'm learning too, because it's

976
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: like I'm not acting like I know this is something

977
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: I wanted, Like he really.

978
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: Directly and he paying, he paying like he is paying

979
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: for his learning.

980
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: He's doing it like he sent me some money for

981
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: the role.

982
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because it's it's real ship. It's like, look,

983
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: we really want to do this shit. It ain't weigh

984
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: that's a business not like. This ain't vanity shit. This

985
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: ain't like I think I probe myself on the fact

986
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: that all the people I deal with really want it

987
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: in a way that's past ego. It's almost like I

988
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: gotta do this, like they're creative in a way that

989
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: they can't help it. So it's like you see two

990
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: about here doing comedy. He gonna do a movie or

991
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: whatever he thinks he gonna he's gonna give it one

992
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: hundred and again. Having the right people around you that

993
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: inspires you, because that like I've been thinking about this

994
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: show for maybe ten years, like I've I've just been

995
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: writing random things that I'm like, that'll be dope, that'll

996
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: be dope. But in the last two years I got

997
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: it done. But that's partly because being around somebody who

998
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: don't go to sleep.

999
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: And it's like, man, what hold on?

1000
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: Well, I'm up, I might as well finish doing my ship,

1001
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's yeah, it just goes

1002
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: back to that having the people around you that inspire

1003
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 2: you is super important.

1004
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: How how important you like to keep fruit for relationships?

1005
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

1006
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: If they if they bear fruit, try to keep it,

1007
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I don't. I think.

1008
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: Trying to do it is weird if you have it,

1009
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's like that's the hard with me because

1010
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like all the relationships I got,

1011
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: they were built over circumstance situations like character testing, like

1012
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: so I know who I'm dealing with and they know

1013
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: who they're dealing with. Yeah, Like so it's like I

1014
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: think the weirdest shit and people that I'm going to

1015
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 2: this network event, so you just got to go talk

1016
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: to like random people no purpose, like like just a

1017
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: rule full of niggas who's saying I want to beat

1018
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: somebody like as opposed to go where the things you

1019
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: like are right, you're gonna want into people who like

1020
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: that shit too, and then y'all gonna talk about some

1021
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: shit that y'all like like, oh I could do it,

1022
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Like that's all my relationships started in that space, like

1023
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm where I want to be, so that way, I'm

1024
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: more likely. It's to meet people I want to meet.

1025
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: I can dig that. What do you do when people

1026
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: say make it like artists in the industry or just

1027
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: make it in the industry. What's your definition of make

1028
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: it or made it?

1029
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: Not being dependent on somebody else's decision whether or not

1030
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: you do it again, m or what you do tomorrow?

1031
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: What was your maid made it moment?

1032
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: I ain't had that yet.

1033
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm successful, but i'm not. I'm not kick my feet up.

1034
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: Again fuel because that is that the way that you

1035
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: fuel and motivate yourself. K has made it.

1036
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: No, KP.

1037
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: The Great is a destination, Like I'm trying to get there, bro,

1038
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: like the.

1039
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: Great, yourself great.

1040
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm consistent, I'm I'm working hard. I'm like, yes, i think.

1041
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm great at being me for sure, that's all I matter.

1042
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: Like I'm the best.

1043
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: KP out this bit, you made it? Yeah, So that's

1044
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's it's but but I also

1045
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: understand that I'm not. I don't know. I just don't

1046
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: feel like i'm doing right. Yeah, So it's like I'll

1047
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: make it when when I don't have no more to give.

1048
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Josh Ship KP, the Great, Big Fact, I

1049
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man, say to the Big Facts supporters and

1050
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: followers in the game motivation you want to give them

1051
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty five.

1052
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: You know what the real motivation is looking at mirror.

1053
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: If you like it, you're good. If you don't do better, that's.

1054
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: Cold, cold right now. Yeah, Big KP probably love respect

1055
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: the k the Great, the Big Fast. Make sure you

1056
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: check us out at Triple W dot big fasspot dot

1057
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: com

1058
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: St it's a Big Fact, No cat Fitch