Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready
Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.
Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Friday, November nineteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number sixty five. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. We're life from s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star and our job. Today's get you guys ready
Speaker 1: for Cowboys versus Chiefs. It will be the game of
Speaker 1: the weekend in my opinion in the NFL. It'll be
Speaker 1: a fun game, hopefully, and we'll tell you by the
Speaker 1: end of the show whether we think the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: win this game or not. Cowboys travel to Kansas City
Speaker 1: tomorrow and give us a chance to get some Kansas
Speaker 1: City barbecue. So it'll be fun and we'll see how
Speaker 1: things go on Sunday. Nick, give me a sixty five.
Speaker 1: Let's get this thing rolls. Andre Girard, I knew exactly
Speaker 1: who I mean. He had to. I saw himunday at
Speaker 1: the game. Actually, yeah, I mean last that was not less?
Speaker 1: Was that last? He was awesome? Yeah, he's great player.
Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately for him, he had to have somebody
Speaker 1: step on his face yea before he could really get
Speaker 1: to that name recognition and like, oh he was a guy.
Speaker 1: Oh he's a good player too. The next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he makes five Pro Bowls. But I'll say this, he
Speaker 1: had probably the funniest thing I've ever heard anyone say.
Speaker 1: I've told it before, but it's so funny. No, no,
Speaker 1: not the hockey story. Hockey story is funny too. But
Speaker 1: he basically was on our air talking about going to
Speaker 1: that dude ranch that yeah, in two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about Troy Hamburg taking this pig
Speaker 1: and dragging this pig by the feet around and throwing
Speaker 1: this pig around and he and Ridgard goes, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure he tore that pigs acl and like that was funny.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he said he wanted to play hockey, be
Speaker 1: the first guy to ever throw someone over the glass.
Speaker 1: He didn't do that. He never played, but it did
Speaker 1: play center and he played pretty good. Ron Larry was
Speaker 1: a good choice. To sixty five. But Andre Girard and
Speaker 1: he's he's the best choice. Good number, good good good,
Speaker 1: good player, fun player. All right, you looking at me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, idea, what that is. You don't know? Andre,
Speaker 1: he works he was. No, he doesn't work here anymore,
Speaker 1: but he was. He was worked here for the time.
Speaker 1: I know he's worked here. At some point we probably
Speaker 1: might I see his face. I'm noble with names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I loved about it when Andre was um
Speaker 1: he was We went to Washington, we went to the
Speaker 1: uh it was the African American History Museum of History,
Speaker 1: and it was really cool because we all we were
Speaker 1: all were there and it was you know, as you go,
Speaker 1: as you go up up there and it gets a
Speaker 1: lot lighter and better, and he shows a lot of
Speaker 1: the athletes and entertainers and all that. And there was
Speaker 1: that part where he was talking about the center position.
Speaker 1: It is one of the very few positions in the
Speaker 1: league that has African American centers and I mean the
Speaker 1: African American starters, and he was one of the very
Speaker 1: first ones. He was real proud of that, and he
Speaker 1: was there and he should have been and it was
Speaker 1: it was cool, just talking to him out there as well.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't think about it, but yeah, there
Speaker 1: there hasn't been one that has a lot of African
Speaker 1: Americans and he was and he was really good. He
Speaker 1: was really really good. Um. Yeah, and I'd say that
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek about that happened in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: You know, with Haynesworth, he was ready to be a star.
Speaker 1: He was about to be a star, and that just
Speaker 1: unfortunate thing that happened. He handled it as good as
Speaker 1: you could possibly. But it was also because of how
Speaker 1: it happened too, because I think the reason why he
Speaker 1: got stopped is because it stopped his face because he
Speaker 1: was killing It was like he was destroying that dude
Speaker 1: that game, and he just got frustrated. Hainesworth got frustrated
Speaker 1: and decided to get dirty. Um. And so I think
Speaker 1: I think it just brought more attention to the fact
Speaker 1: that no draw was handling him, handling him easily, last
Speaker 1: easily be handling him well and um and so I
Speaker 1: think that kind of got a little more attention on
Speaker 1: just how well he was playing the position. Okay, I
Speaker 1: definitely know him. Yeah, and by the way, he's the
Speaker 1: most friendly guy too, So if you're around, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he would come around and say Hi. I kind of
Speaker 1: think this. Yeah, Andre's a good dude. All right, Um,
Speaker 1: let's jump into some storylines. We do this every Friday.
Speaker 1: I have a list of different questions slash storylines that
Speaker 1: that I think will be important to this game. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's start first with kind of just a big picture thing. Um,
Speaker 1: this game has the potential to be one that that
Speaker 1: could be. I don't know. You know, they could score
Speaker 1: eighty points between the two of them, and I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody would be surprised by that. My question for
Speaker 1: you guys is if this turns into a shootout, who
Speaker 1: benefits more, Kansas City or Dallas. UM, I think Dallas
Speaker 1: does because I just think I think that there. Their
Speaker 1: offense is better. I think they have more. Dallas's offense
Speaker 1: is better, I do. I do think it has it
Speaker 1: has more weapons. We talked about this straight on a
Speaker 1: different show. But you know, if you if you give
Speaker 1: me the best weapon, Kansas City's got it, give me
Speaker 1: the top three weapons they probably have two, give me
Speaker 1: the top ten. Dallas probably has seven of them, six
Speaker 1: of them. So at the end of the day, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have. They have more and they have an offensive
Speaker 1: line than I think's better. So I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be able to keep scoring the best. I think.
Speaker 1: I think they will be able to do that. So
Speaker 1: I would say Dallas in a shootout there trying to
Speaker 1: look up. Okay, if you guys have good memory, out
Speaker 1: of all the games they've played so far, what are
Speaker 1: the games that has being a very good back and
Speaker 1: forth back and forth other than the first game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: other than Damna, I mean Kansas City. I mean not
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Um, Los Angeles was close, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: they was like back and forth. They went a ton
Speaker 1: of points scored. Name well, there was a few points
Speaker 1: scored in the Carolina game. It was just not considered
Speaker 1: back and forth. It was like the Cowboy It was
Speaker 1: close early. Cowboys took a big lead into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: Carolina got back into it and then you know they
Speaker 1: won thirty six twenty eight. That's pretty high scoring game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't really back and forth. I mean New
Speaker 1: England maybe New England. Yeah, I mean New England obviously
Speaker 1: took that that early lead and then they kind of
Speaker 1: that was came back in but I mean that was
Speaker 1: a game that was kind of a back and forth
Speaker 1: kind of game. To me, at least, it felt like
Speaker 1: that from the standpoint that it was kind of like
Speaker 1: these ebbs and flows in the game where one team
Speaker 1: was on top, then the other teams on top, then
Speaker 1: the other teams, you know what I'm saying, just kind
Speaker 1: of I guess that would be the next one, like
Speaker 1: closest one that was like that. I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: kind of think back and compare. Okay, how have the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense responded to games like that to where it's
Speaker 1: really kind of keeping up and staying on top, and
Speaker 1: how has the end result been? And we saw it,
Speaker 1: I mean Week one, that was as close as they
Speaker 1: could get and it was fun and they were just
Speaker 1: right there and you kept you keep saying it. Had
Speaker 1: it not been for it's like Martin being lank, they
Speaker 1: would have won that game. I think they Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they could have. I think they could have been
Speaker 1: more complete. The thing is about a shootout is can
Speaker 1: you score? I mean you need to score. Can you
Speaker 1: go score? Against the Bucks? They needed to go down
Speaker 1: and get a field goal. They did, and then they
Speaker 1: needed more time off the clock. So that, you know,
Speaker 1: but they did. They needed points there. They needed points
Speaker 1: even in that Carolina game when they got closed, they
Speaker 1: need to go get first down. They were able to
Speaker 1: do that. They were able to score against the Patriots
Speaker 1: when they just had to have it Cedric Wilson fourth down.
Speaker 1: They were able to score against the Vikings when they
Speaker 1: had to go down. So they've shown this year that
Speaker 1: when they really have to go make a drive, even
Speaker 1: the Chargers at the end of the game, they've done that.
Speaker 1: So that's what a shootout is about. And I think
Speaker 1: that back of them can do it. And the other
Speaker 1: thing about a shootout, in my opinion, is typically the
Speaker 1: defenses don't make as much of an impact, but which
Speaker 1: you'll notice. I think a lot of times in a
Speaker 1: shootout it's at some point towards the end of the
Speaker 1: game one of the defenses makes a critical play, a
Speaker 1: critical stop, a critical turnover, something like that. And I
Speaker 1: actually look at this Dallas team and I think this
Speaker 1: defense is light years ahead of where they were in
Speaker 1: Week one. I think they are a much better defense
Speaker 1: at this point than they were back then. I think
Speaker 1: they've settled into their roles, and so I do think
Speaker 1: this is the kind of defense if they got into
Speaker 1: that kind of game, they may not stop them most
Speaker 1: of the day, but I think they have the kind
Speaker 1: of defense that and give it put in a specific situation,
Speaker 1: here's the game you need to make a stop. I
Speaker 1: think this defense can maybe make that kind of play.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference between maybe what we
Speaker 1: saw in Week one versus what we could see you
Speaker 1: think over time, Oh, it's possibility, for sure, everything's possible
Speaker 1: in this game. Like these are two I mean these
Speaker 1: are two two of the top five offenses in the NFL,
Speaker 1: not even not even look at the conference, like two
Speaker 1: of the top offenses in the NFL. So and two
Speaker 1: defenses that can give it up like we've seen both
Speaker 1: these two defense give up a ton of yards. So
Speaker 1: I expect these offenses to go up and down the field.
Speaker 1: Well what it ends up in, whether it's field goals
Speaker 1: or touchdowns, who knows, but I do expect them to
Speaker 1: move up and down the field. Pretty you mentioned field
Speaker 1: goal and I'm like, watch this be the freaking game
Speaker 1: where it comes down to like the kicker or something
Speaker 1: like that. And then it's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: It will it will come down to one of the
Speaker 1: kickers is gonna make a game winning kick. They'll come down.
Speaker 1: I mean every every game at the end of the
Speaker 1: half or the game always seems to come down to
Speaker 1: a kick or field goal here. So yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say and missed one though, like we've been talking about
Speaker 1: it so much and they going by, and I mean
Speaker 1: we know that Greg, and he's back, so he's expected
Speaker 1: to play in this game, and we know how Usually
Speaker 1: we say, oh when key moments like that, he'll kind
Speaker 1: of put it up and make it. But then what
Speaker 1: if it goes the other way this time around when
Speaker 1: you really really need him. So hopefully not hopefully this
Speaker 1: is just you know, and they have a good kicker.
Speaker 1: Who are They're getting nervous. But but yeah, he's good.
Speaker 1: I mean he's real good. Actually, he missed last week.
Speaker 1: Was it last week or a week before us that
Speaker 1: he missed it? The kick it was? It was I
Speaker 1: think it was a makeable thing, was like in the
Speaker 1: forty range, but I'm not sure about that. But I
Speaker 1: do remember him missing I was watching the game and
Speaker 1: he missed one. Anyway, it's like our first break when
Speaker 1: we come back. I want to dive a little bit
Speaker 1: into the idea of how you know. Obviously, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are the team that has the better record in this instance,
Speaker 1: but I think nationally everyone looks at the Kansas City
Speaker 1: team and thinks they are among the league's elite. My
Speaker 1: question for you guys that we'll talk about when we
Speaker 1: come back from the break is how much of a
Speaker 1: measuring stick game is this for the Cowboys And what
Speaker 1: does it mean if they win? What does it mean
Speaker 1: if they lose. I'll talk about that when we come
Speaker 1: right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Before
Speaker 1: there was a draft, you get sized up a cowboy
Speaker 1: by three simple factors. The crease in his hat, the
Speaker 1: bend of his brim, and his unbending attitude a man.
Speaker 1: Stetson didn't just protect him from what life through at him.
Speaker 1: It projected a rugged, unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still American,
Speaker 1: made with pride. Right here in Texas. There's still the
Speaker 1: unofficial crowd of all self respecting Cowboys, and Stetson is
Speaker 1: proud to be on the field with America's team. Find
Speaker 1: a retailer nearest you at Stetson dot com, slash Cowboys
Speaker 1: The Cowboys Way, where sixteen Hall of famers and five
Speaker 1: championships shows us what success looks like. Where turkey is
Speaker 1: always the second best part of Thanksgiving Day, Where we
Speaker 1: are all defined by one single thing, the star, where
Speaker 1: we as fans know it's our job to keep the
Speaker 1: tradition going. Bank of America is proud to be the
Speaker 1: official bank of the Dallas Cowboys and to support the
Speaker 1: quest of living life the Cowboys Way Copyright twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Bank of America Corporation. Want to use what the pros use?
Speaker 1: How about the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jack Black. Right now you can get the Jack Black Starter,
Speaker 1: a curated collection of Cowboys locker room favorites, for just
Speaker 1: ten bucks with free shipping. The starter includes four Jack
Speaker 1: Clack skincare favorites, plus a full sized and tense therapy
Speaker 1: lip bomb. Go to get Jack Black dot com slash
Speaker 1: Cowboys and use the code word team JB. That's get
Speaker 1: Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys the Jack Black Starter,
Speaker 1: ten bucks, free shipping. Honey, big News, Gary, Are you okay? Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I
Speaker 1: want the latest smartphone, but the best deals are only
Speaker 1: for new customers, So to get a new customer deal,
Speaker 1: I changed my name to Jackie Flash. Okay, but the
Speaker 1: best smartphone deals at AT AT and T are for everyone,
Speaker 1: new and existing customers. That's huge. Then guess who's getting
Speaker 1: the deal? Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash. It's not
Speaker 1: complicated at AT and T our best smartphone deals are
Speaker 1: for everyone. Restrictions apply. Is it att dot com for details?
Speaker 1: Back to the break Welcome back. We are in the
Speaker 1: second second of the Break Life from the s WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage studios at the Star. Real quick. I do want
Speaker 1: to mention for you guys that are here in the
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area, make sure you check out this weekend.
Speaker 1: For the first time ever, we're gonna have a two site,
Speaker 1: two location watch party. You have that, Nick, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can give you some more talk about that. Talking about that,
Speaker 1: Like you said, two watch parties here. They're presented by
Speaker 1: Miller light Heads at and T Discover Redistrict or Miller
Speaker 1: Lighthouse at AT and T Stadium to watch the Cowboys
Speaker 1: cheerleaders performance. You got Cowboys alumni hang with Roddy. A
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. Pregame celebrations begin at one
Speaker 1: pm at the AT and T Discovery District two pm
Speaker 1: at the Miller Lighthouse. For more information, visit the Dallas
Speaker 1: cowys dot Com Slash watch Party. Yeah that at and
Speaker 1: T Discovery District. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: been down there. It is actually pretty pretty sweet. It's
Speaker 1: pretty sweet. It's got like one hundred foot four foot
Speaker 1: video wall where they'll have the game and it's just
Speaker 1: a lot. They'll have food trucks out there and all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff for this watch party. But it's a
Speaker 1: really cool location in downtown Dallas has been pretty busy
Speaker 1: this season. Rowdy, Yes, I feel like everything that Nick
Speaker 1: involves rowdy in delivering presence, going to watch parties, doing
Speaker 1: all kinds of things. A really nice person on Twitter say,
Speaker 1: are we sure Nick isn't rowdy? We're not sure. Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: I've never seen the two of them in the same place.
Speaker 1: You haven't, I don't think so. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well. I was. I was up
Speaker 1: there working the other day when he was parading around.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Oh? Maybe I wasn't. Maybe you were.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm rowdy, Maybe I am all right. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the second second of the break laughing s WBC
Speaker 1: morg Studios. At the start, we got Dave joining us
Speaker 1: right now. Dave you as you walk off with close McCarthy,
Speaker 1: he give us anything anything. It's I love working here, um,
Speaker 1: without trying to dive into specifics too much. For the
Speaker 1: last twenty minutes, I've been like, how are we going
Speaker 1: to talk about the Cowboys making a guard change without
Speaker 1: just coming out and saying that's what's happening. And then
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones does it for me. Literally as I was,
Speaker 1: I was coming down wondering about this, and then I
Speaker 1: saw a Twitter and I was like, oh, okay, so
Speaker 1: it's out there. Connor McGovern's gonna start at left guard. Um,
Speaker 1: that's probably the big thing I do want it. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to talk to coach McCarthy about this,
Speaker 1: but I wonder it sounds like Tyren Smith it's gonna play.
Speaker 1: But they want to see him practice tomorrow. They want
Speaker 1: to make sure he's still on the up and up,
Speaker 1: and three days of practice is big to them. They
Speaker 1: do their last practice on Saturday instead of Friday. I
Speaker 1: think it's weird to play a new left guard if
Speaker 1: Tyrone's not ready to play. That's just me. So I
Speaker 1: wonder like if they do wind up sitting Tyron down,
Speaker 1: But it's hound like. It sounds like this is a
Speaker 1: full go Like it sounds like Connor McGovern is gonna
Speaker 1: start no matter what. But I wonder if that's a
Speaker 1: good idea to have Terrence Steele and Connor McGovern next
Speaker 1: to each other at Arrowhead all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: They must feel like he's not going to be worse though, right, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't make it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think they probably look at it like, look, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be worse, and if we can at least get
Speaker 1: rid of the penalties. And I think there's a there's
Speaker 1: a snowball effect that that's in play there too, where
Speaker 1: like opponents are going to key on Connor Williams, the
Speaker 1: referees probably are too, because he leads the league in penalties.
Speaker 1: It's like a self fulfilling prop to see at some point. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he can be worse. It's just interesting
Speaker 1: to me, but I do. Um. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Tyrn's gonna play, even though they're not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: ready to say that yet. But after last game. The
Speaker 1: way that Kellen Moore utilized McGovern in the game in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. I mean it makes me wonder
Speaker 1: is it a good idea? And I get it we've
Speaker 1: been complaining about Connor Williams, but after you see how
Speaker 1: much more Connor McGovern can give you in the offense
Speaker 1: of just like a surprise element type of thing that
Speaker 1: I'm sure Connor william maybe he could, but I was
Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm sorry, he is going to
Speaker 1: do that. You think it would be good at it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean I don't. I didn't think
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern would be that great at it, and Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins was actually good at it too. It's just blocking
Speaker 1: in space. I think Connor Williams is a good athlete
Speaker 1: and he can he can go and do that. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a left tackle. That's he gets a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for his aspoticism. I don't know if they'd
Speaker 1: get it creative with him as they were starting to
Speaker 1: get with Connor mcgonn. I mean that was kind of
Speaker 1: do it so long. Yeah, like after so many weeks
Speaker 1: of practice, they're doing all kinds of goofy stuff with
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern. Maybe they just limited to more traditional fullback
Speaker 1: stuff with Connor. Have a feeling that Connor Williams's arrow
Speaker 1: is going to be pointed up higher than Connor McGovern's
Speaker 1: after this game, just because when you're playing, you know
Speaker 1: you're getting graded as a as a left guard. He's
Speaker 1: getting graded as this fun little fullback doing stuff, just blocking,
Speaker 1: and then the roles are going to get reversed, and
Speaker 1: then the penalties might get reversed. Then we'll see how
Speaker 1: we feel about it. They're making three position changes though
Speaker 1: for this game that from what we saw last week.
Speaker 1: We got a new left tackle, which is the starting
Speaker 1: left tackles. That's a good move, new left guard, and
Speaker 1: then new fullback because of all the dominoes, but it's
Speaker 1: all should be for the best. Yeah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think Connor McGovern's gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: But the backups always more popular than the starter unless
Speaker 1: the starter is a stud. So and I think I
Speaker 1: think Connor Williams will be fine doing that role that
Speaker 1: McGovern was doing. But if they if he wasn't, and Nick,
Speaker 1: you and I had this conversation yesterday, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: nothing that stops them on some plays from swapping them out,
Speaker 1: so essentially putting Connor Williams at guard and having mcgoverned
Speaker 1: at fullback. They could do that if they chose to.
Speaker 1: On some plays now, of course I don't see it
Speaker 1: very often, Yeah, but it could. It could also telegraph
Speaker 1: maybe what they're going to want to do. Maybe they
Speaker 1: use that as a also as kind of camouflage on
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Right, So there are ways they
Speaker 1: could work that if they wanted to work it like that.
Speaker 1: I suspect that Connor Williams will be just as good
Speaker 1: doing the job as Connor mcgovernment, maybe even better because
Speaker 1: he is. I think athleticism has never been the problem
Speaker 1: for him. It's been strength for him. So I think
Speaker 1: getting him in space and letting him run and try
Speaker 1: to get blocks in open space, I think that probably
Speaker 1: is something him right now, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that's Connor williams issue. So we're gonna find out if
Speaker 1: if Connor mcgovernent has the same issue or if he's
Speaker 1: stronger that's there if that position. The funny thing like
Speaker 1: this probably won't change the chief's approach at all. They're like, um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put Chris Jones over this guy that leads
Speaker 1: the league in penalties. And now it's like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put Chris Jones over the new starter who hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten to start much this year. Like, either way, guy's
Speaker 1: name is still Connor too, Like you don't have to
Speaker 1: change anything. Really, We're gonna put Chris Jones on the
Speaker 1: guy that's not Zach Martin. Yeah exactly, I mean that's what.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's a smart thing, no matter yeah,
Speaker 1: no matter what. And by the way, Connor was playing
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's still this smart would be the smart
Speaker 1: thing to do in the Pro Bowl, It's exactly. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: all right, um, so let's get back to the conversation.
Speaker 1: We were looking at storylines of this game before we
Speaker 1: went to break. I started talking about the idea that
Speaker 1: I think we all agree Kansas City is considered among
Speaker 1: the elite teams in the NFL, and Dallas has really
Speaker 1: only played one of those teams this year, that being
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in Week one. Although they played really well,
Speaker 1: they end up losing that game. So my question for
Speaker 1: you guys is how much of a measuring stick is
Speaker 1: this game for Dallas to figure out whether they really
Speaker 1: are among the league's elite or not. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways you can go with that, and I
Speaker 1: mean we got into it at the end of yesterday's
Speaker 1: show too. Of Like, I do think it is because
Speaker 1: Kansas City they are what everybody strives to be, which
Speaker 1: is like a team that you feel confident is going
Speaker 1: to be their conference championship weekend, and they've done it
Speaker 1: three years in a row. They haven't played that well
Speaker 1: this year though. It's really it's the narrative more so
Speaker 1: than the reality, Like you got to go out and
Speaker 1: prove it every week, right, And so somebody asked me
Speaker 1: earlier this week, like do they need to win this
Speaker 1: to prove something. I'm like, absolutely not. It's an AFC
Speaker 1: opponent and nope, you're not getting in because people are
Speaker 1: voting for you get You just gotta win enough games
Speaker 1: and then let the chips fall where they may. So
Speaker 1: they don't need it. But I do think it really
Speaker 1: changes the narrative about who this team is. If they
Speaker 1: do get a win, for sure, I think this will Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I think this will only be a big game if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose. If the Cowboys win, I don't think
Speaker 1: it'll be considered a big game. If people want to
Speaker 1: hate on the Cowboys, and there's plenty of them that will,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll point to the fact that the Chiefs are bad.
Speaker 1: They're six and five, they're bad team. Now they're barely
Speaker 1: over five hundred, probably out of the playoffs, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe out of the picture as it stands right currently.
Speaker 1: You know, good, good job, Dallas. You beat a six
Speaker 1: and five team. Now if they lose, then it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a chance to be a big, big
Speaker 1: time win and you lost. So I just don't feel
Speaker 1: like and I don't think. I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1: I think this is a big game. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You're not gonna face a team in
Speaker 1: this atmosphere anything really tougher than in the playoffs, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I mean maybe maybe at Green Bay if
Speaker 1: it's snowing, but they don't have the weapons. They don't
Speaker 1: have the weapons that Kansas City does. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a big game, But unfortunately, I don't think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will get enough credit for it. If they win,
Speaker 1: they'll get they'll get the flip side. If they lose.
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to how they win or
Speaker 1: how they lose this game, much like the week one
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay, like that was even with them losing,
Speaker 1: I don't think many people came out of that game
Speaker 1: really going out the Cowboys and criticizing them. I mean
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, wow, they might be really good
Speaker 1: this year. So that's what it comes down to to
Speaker 1: me is watching this game, what are the mistakes they
Speaker 1: make and what are the things the mistakes that even
Speaker 1: Kansas City makes on them, because we've seen it other times,
Speaker 1: even with good teams, it's like, okay, well it was
Speaker 1: more on how the opponent played, like they didn't do
Speaker 1: a good job type of thing, rather than the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were excellent and they really beat them. So it just
Speaker 1: this is one of those games that despite what happens
Speaker 1: as the end result, I'll be more focused on what
Speaker 1: actually happened in the game and how both teams reacted
Speaker 1: during the game. I think I get your point, and
Speaker 1: there are definitely going to be people that do that,
Speaker 1: because anybody that doesn't love the Cowboys hates them. But
Speaker 1: among like rational minded people, I think I think this
Speaker 1: has a chance to kind of flip the script because yeah,
Speaker 1: Kansas City hasn't been good this year, but they've won
Speaker 1: three in a row. Mahomes is still Mahomes this whole.
Speaker 1: I wrote a column yesterday about Dak being a potential
Speaker 1: MVP candidate, and I wasn't even really thinking about Mahomes
Speaker 1: and then I looked at his numbers. They're incredible by
Speaker 1: anybody else's standards, But that is the standard for Mahomes
Speaker 1: that you're like, like, it's he's like, he's got like
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred yards and more touchdowns than Dak. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's thrown a lot of picks. He still only has ten.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot. So that so this is
Speaker 1: still the standard for quarterback play, for what an organization
Speaker 1: can accomplish all that stuff, and uh, it's three thirty game.
Speaker 1: I think about this all the time. Our buddy Pat
Speaker 1: Doney told me this. I was giving him crap about
Speaker 1: a question he asked somebody. I was like, that sucked.
Speaker 1: That was stupid, Pat, Why do you I don't know?
Speaker 1: I said something mean to him, and he was like, Dave,
Speaker 1: you write for the diehards who know the backup's name.
Speaker 1: I right for the suburban mom that doesn't know anything
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys or shout out to suburban moms because
Speaker 1: some of them are to the hardcore of course, of course,
Speaker 1: but just as He's like, my audience is people that
Speaker 1: are like, oh, the Cowboys are on I like Dak
Speaker 1: you know, like that type of thing, and that winning
Speaker 1: this game will sway a lot of those types of
Speaker 1: opinions where people are like, whoo, the Cowboys beat the
Speaker 1: Chiefs on the road, like that is a big deal.
Speaker 1: You ever laugh? I don't know if. Sometimes people just
Speaker 1: ask you questions because they kind of know the answer.
Speaker 1: They just want to talk about it, which is fine.
Speaker 1: But sometimes people will be like, so the Cowboys got
Speaker 1: this week, they're got the Chiefs, and they're like, where's
Speaker 1: that games at home or away? And you're like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? Of course it's an arrowhead. Everyone knows,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like, no, they don't. They don't know.
Speaker 1: But life tells me all the time. She's like, you
Speaker 1: live in a bubble, yeah, d think everybody lives and
Speaker 1: breathe around Dallas Cowboys or NFL football. They don't. When
Speaker 1: a lot of people watch it, yeah, the necessarily leave
Speaker 1: leave it, live it every day like you do. I
Speaker 1: get out into the world sometimes times and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're here your neck deep in it, like I
Speaker 1: can tell you that's Dat's stat line from memory, like
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And then I get out in the
Speaker 1: world and people are like they still have Zeke, like
Speaker 1: he's got I like his hair. I'm just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. But but that, but they matter too, I mean, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean how many people watch the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: how many of those people actually like, live and breathe
Speaker 1: NFL football. Of course, a lot of them, but by
Speaker 1: and large this is just something that's on in the background.
Speaker 1: But games like this make those people sit up and
Speaker 1: take notice, right, and that's why the numbers will be
Speaker 1: crazy as people that watch this game. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you guys this. So, so let's assume for a
Speaker 1: second the Cowboys lose this game. Does it change your
Speaker 1: opinion of the Cowboys, because right now I look at
Speaker 1: them as as right there among those elite teams. But
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm ahead, okay, but I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the fact that, again, like I said, the only game
Speaker 1: they've played against that level of opponents so far, they've lost,
Speaker 1: and they won't get another opportunity to play against another
Speaker 1: team like this in that caliber at least as people
Speaker 1: think of them until they get to the Arizona game
Speaker 1: in January. Does it change your opinion of what you
Speaker 1: think of this team if they should lose. I'm pointing
Speaker 1: to Amber because she said it's how they win or
Speaker 1: how they But but even at that though, does it
Speaker 1: does it? I think the thing about it is that
Speaker 1: would be the case if it was the first game
Speaker 1: they played. They've already played one of those games and
Speaker 1: they wont I mean, they lost it, but they played well.
Speaker 1: If they lose us from playing it, well, does it
Speaker 1: then become well, the Cowboys are a good team. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys may not be able to compete and win against
Speaker 1: the best teams in the least fair and that would
Speaker 1: be fair. And if they get beat thirty one to ten,
Speaker 1: then it's like, well, I don't really know, they're maybe
Speaker 1: not as good, yeah, and that they're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be negative either way. I mean because because they've already,
Speaker 1: because they've already done it. If they if this was
Speaker 1: the first time they faced a good team, they you know, yes,
Speaker 1: because no more that that Tampa Bay stuff. You got
Speaker 1: one that's the most that's it. You don't get it again.
Speaker 1: You don't get good losses. Now it's a trend. See
Speaker 1: I disagree. Really yeah, it does matter how they play.
Speaker 1: If they get wiped off the field, and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe maybe they're frauds, maybe they're not as
Speaker 1: good as we think they are. If it plays out
Speaker 1: the exact same way as Tampa, Like if they lose
Speaker 1: the game on the last kick, I say, Okay, they
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with a team that was in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They didn't get it done. The season's
Speaker 1: only half over. They're gonna get another one of these
Speaker 1: when they play Arizona. And oh, by the way, it's
Speaker 1: a ridiculously random game with an oblong ball where you
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. And I say, they
Speaker 1: were three plays away from beating Tampa Bay. If they're
Speaker 1: two plays away from beating Kansas City, sure it's disappointing,
Speaker 1: but you're still I'm still like, they are going toe
Speaker 1: to toe with the class of the NFL, and you
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen next time they get
Speaker 1: this opportunity. That's all fair, and that all is right,
Speaker 1: I'm saying for me, I do at that point, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of in the back of my head saying, man,
Speaker 1: can they when it gets to mid to late January
Speaker 1: and you're playing on every weekend, you're playing somebody that good.
Speaker 1: Doesn't change my expectations of whether I think they are
Speaker 1: really a super Bowl contender or just a team that's
Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs. And then it's gonna
Speaker 1: have a hard time facing these really good teams every league.
Speaker 1: But again, like but see, that's my point, Like if
Speaker 1: they if they lose at the gun, then they to
Speaker 1: some degree I get. I'm not trying to say it's
Speaker 1: good that they lose, but like they did what they
Speaker 1: needed to do. Like those teams, the wild card teams
Speaker 1: that you know, don't really have a chance. They're getting
Speaker 1: waxed by the Chiefs, they're getting blown out. Like there's
Speaker 1: always a team that like they're the five or six
Speaker 1: seed and you're like, okay, have fun with your cute
Speaker 1: little wildcard game. You're not going anywhere. But if you
Speaker 1: and by the way, Dallas would destroy those teams too,
Speaker 1: I think exactly. And so Ease has been that team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah for sure. But if you if you're capable
Speaker 1: of of pushing them to the brink, then I just
Speaker 1: think it signifies something different. That's all I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think Dave's in a really nice way. He's also as
Speaker 1: saying that if you think that way, like your opinion
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and he's not really saying that until you
Speaker 1: better but no, but no, no, But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that people that think that way, that doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter because the reality of it, because the first thing
Speaker 1: you said was is you're right, the Cowboys went toe
Speaker 1: to toe. They've lost. Now, they've lost three games. One
Speaker 1: of them was just crazy against the Denver But let's
Speaker 1: say that they lose to the Chiefs and it's closed.
Speaker 1: They've lost two close road games against the two teams
Speaker 1: that have been the Super Bowl. That's only happened like
Speaker 1: five times in the history of the franchises to face
Speaker 1: both Super Bowl teams on the road. And so you know,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're not they can't go and
Speaker 1: win these games. It really doesn't matter. They'll they'll be
Speaker 1: fine two months from now when they play in the
Speaker 1: playoffs or whatever. But for us and talk shows and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, it's like, m I don't know, And
Speaker 1: it's fodder for everyone to do that, and and for
Speaker 1: fans like that that still exists in the back of
Speaker 1: their mind. There's a difference between you win that game
Speaker 1: and now in the back of your mind, you're like,
Speaker 1: this team really does have a shot, Like they can
Speaker 1: beat those kinds of teams if they lose that game,
Speaker 1: even if they lose it close. It's like, and it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder when they're playing that caliber of opponent,
Speaker 1: they'll be good enough to stay in the game, but
Speaker 1: not quite good enough to get over the top. That's
Speaker 1: the part that's still left unknown. I get. I get it.
Speaker 1: It's ironic because like the way that I think about
Speaker 1: seasons and teams is completely counterproductive to me being somebody
Speaker 1: who relies on getting people to listen to me every day,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm basically like, it doesn't matter, like true,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'll put like this, like and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking right now, all I'm talking about is really from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of our fans out there listening. And if
Speaker 1: you put yourself in the same boat thinking about your fandom,
Speaker 1: like let's say, you know, absolutely get how that no,
Speaker 1: you just kind of play these tricks with yourself, like
Speaker 1: should I really be buying into us being this good
Speaker 1: or should I not. And if you see a game
Speaker 1: like this and they happen to lose it, now you've
Speaker 1: got some doubts. I know it. Just it doesn't make
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable. And I get it again, nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: be happy if they lose this game, even if they
Speaker 1: lose a classic. Um. But it's it's it's the experience
Speaker 1: of it all. It's like going on the road in
Speaker 1: a place that I mean, the Chiefs could still host
Speaker 1: the AFC title game. That's not out of the question.
Speaker 1: By the way, if they lose this game, Nick, you
Speaker 1: said it like they're I think they're still gonna be
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the AFC playoffs. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked through in the AFC Championship or in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I haven't at no point during this
Speaker 1: entire entire season have I written off the Chiefs like
Speaker 1: this might be if they lose, it might be their
Speaker 1: only loss between now in January, Like that wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 1: Um So, But like going into an environment like that
Speaker 1: where like the fan it's gonna be noisy, all that
Speaker 1: good stuff, and it's like the experience of it and
Speaker 1: you internalize that. Deck. Um, if we go all the
Speaker 1: way back to week one. Deck said that about the
Speaker 1: loss of Tampa. He was like, we learned the difference
Speaker 1: between like good enough and great, you know, or it
Speaker 1: was something like that. It's been two months, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but just that that's that's the difference. And I think
Speaker 1: you can even you can learn less from a loss
Speaker 1: about like, Okay, this is what we didn't do. This
Speaker 1: is what we did do. And as long as you
Speaker 1: look like you belong in the game, I still think
Speaker 1: that's a good enough experience. And again, we're at mid season.
Speaker 1: There's so many games left to go. It'll be disappointing
Speaker 1: if they lose, but if they play the right way,
Speaker 1: losing won't change my opinion of what they're capable of.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our final break, will come back
Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit about this. Uh. This
Speaker 1: defense is Dallas defense and what they're gonna do or
Speaker 1: try to do it in order to slow down tire
Speaker 1: you kill and Travis Kelsey. We'll do that when we
Speaker 1: come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Clint Tillison with man, I'm Jay nova Check and
Speaker 1: we're both with Turf the official tractor provider of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So if you need a tractor to bail
Speaker 1: some hey, I'm more to cut some grass or a
Speaker 1: gator to get some chores done. Get a John dere
Speaker 1: at unitedagin Turf and then let's get to work. Hey Jay,
Speaker 1: that's my line, Well not today. Get to work with
Speaker 1: a jaundered tractor package that's just right for you and
Speaker 1: your budget. Visit unanataginturf dot com. Honey, big news, Gary?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash.
Speaker 1: What see? I want the latest smartphone, but the best
Speaker 1: deals are only for new customers. So to get a
Speaker 1: new customer deal, I change my name to Jackie Flash. Okay,
Speaker 1: But the best smartphone deals at AT AT and T are
Speaker 1: for everyone, new and existing customers. That's huge. Then guess
Speaker 1: who's getting a deal. Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash?
Speaker 1: It's not complicated at AT and t our best smartphone
Speaker 1: deals are for everyone. Restrictions apply. Is it att dot
Speaker 1: com for details? New Doctor Pepper zero sugar. You deserve it.
Speaker 1: I do deserve that. You deserve decadent flavor without sugar
Speaker 1: and a day at the beach without sand getting everywhere,
Speaker 1: and a relaxing bath that your children don't interrupt. I
Speaker 1: deserve all that. It's really just a visual metaphor for
Speaker 1: doctor Pepper zero sugar. Everything you want, nothing you don't,
Speaker 1: a visual metaphor on the radio. I do deserve that,
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper, zero sugar. The zero you deserve is finally here.
Speaker 1: Before there was a draft, you could sized up a
Speaker 1: cowboy by three simple factors. The crease in his hat,
Speaker 1: the bend of his brim, and his unbending attitude a man.
Speaker 1: Stetson didn't just protect him from what life through at him.
Speaker 1: It projected a rugged, unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still American,
Speaker 1: made with pride. Right here in Texas. There's still the
Speaker 1: unofficial crowd of all self respecting cowboys, and Stetson is
Speaker 1: proud to be on the field with America's team. Find
Speaker 1: a retailer nearest you at Stetson dot com. Slash Cowboys
Speaker 1: back to the break, Oh, give the gift of Cowboys
Speaker 1: this season with the Dallas Cowboys United. Membership sponsored by
Speaker 1: Globe Life, starts at just twenty dollars. It includes exclusive
Speaker 1: fan pack VPPE member experiences to the season. Visit Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowys dot Com Slash United to get yours today, final
Speaker 1: segment of the Break Life WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: We got a few more minutes, so let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense will have to face maybe the best,
Speaker 1: maybe the best two skilled players that they faced all
Speaker 1: season this game with Kelsey and He'll maybe you would
Speaker 1: throw a couple of guys in that mix, but they
Speaker 1: certainly are right up there at the top, and obviously
Speaker 1: both on the same team. It was interesting this morning.
Speaker 1: I heard Mike McCarthy in his interview on one or
Speaker 1: five Out three the Fan with Sean and Rju. He
Speaker 1: was asked which one do you try to take away?
Speaker 1: And he was talking about how the tight ends most
Speaker 1: important because the tight end, if he has a field day,
Speaker 1: that means he is controlling the middle of the field
Speaker 1: and that creates a lot of other problems for your defense.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, how do you expect Dallas
Speaker 1: to match up against these two really great players? Well,
Speaker 1: I think you use your length and guys like Curse,
Speaker 1: guys like Jigs that can um you know, guard Kelsey.
Speaker 1: He's a He's better than any tight end that they've
Speaker 1: probably that they will face all year and you know
Speaker 1: until next week. Yeah, he's he's probably better. He's probably
Speaker 1: better because he's just because of the the other thing
Speaker 1: you have to worry about. You can't just say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put my corner on him, like you can do
Speaker 1: it with Atlanta. You can do that because they don't
Speaker 1: have anybody. Nice nice job Atlanta. Well they really know
Speaker 1: how to deflate the Cowboys win. Well, they didn't have
Speaker 1: their guys like it's go ahead, sorry anyways, um no,
Speaker 1: I just I think that Tyreek Hill offsets that too,
Speaker 1: like you but you gotta watch him and then so
Speaker 1: then it's like which one do you pick? And you know,
Speaker 1: he got hardman running around. He's pretty good, he's pretty fast,
Speaker 1: he's incredibly fat. They got some speed, so I I
Speaker 1: you know, but but I think that Kelsey's he's a
Speaker 1: really really dynamic player. And yeah, I think that they
Speaker 1: have the best tied end. Then they have the fastest receiver.
Speaker 1: So I would like to think dan Quinn's got some
Speaker 1: wrinkles up his sleeve. And that's what we've loved so
Speaker 1: much is like they alter it. They're not They're not
Speaker 1: just going to go in there and do what we
Speaker 1: do when we talked about it earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: I would love to see I hope they get the
Speaker 1: too High memo. I hope, I mean, and I know
Speaker 1: it's easier said than done. Like Mahomes can beat too High.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's kryptonite for him. But I think
Speaker 1: you gotta drop and cover, give him some tough windows
Speaker 1: to throw into. I love the idea of like jarn
Speaker 1: Curse manning up with Kelsey in the slot with a
Speaker 1: safety over top of him so you can kind of
Speaker 1: brack at the tight end in the middle of the field. Um.
Speaker 1: I love the I think we say this every week,
Speaker 1: but I love the idea of upping Micah's edge rush repertoire.
Speaker 1: Just gotta gotta make I'm not gonna say make Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes uncomfortable because he's like Dak, he's better when he's
Speaker 1: on the run. But but you gotta you gotta try
Speaker 1: to disrupt the flow of this thing. And he's like
Speaker 1: I always say, like, you don't even need to sack him,
Speaker 1: you just need to make him uncomfortable. I think you
Speaker 1: need to know you need to sack this guy. You
Speaker 1: can just hit him because that doesn't do anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't need Mahomes running for his
Speaker 1: life from Micah and then firing to firing darts forty
Speaker 1: yards downfield because the play has been going on for
Speaker 1: six seconds. That's not gonna help anybody. But yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, this feels like clog and cover to me.
Speaker 1: And this is not a game like I don't care
Speaker 1: about dominating or trying like let them have five hundred
Speaker 1: yards as long as they're not scoring as many points
Speaker 1: as your offense. Yeah, I keep wondering, like, how do
Speaker 1: you make him feel uncomfortable consistently, Like not just for
Speaker 1: one or two plays, but how do you be successful
Speaker 1: at it without de Marcus, without Randy And we saw
Speaker 1: that and that was one of my concerns for last week.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Atlanta a totally different opponent than the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: So it just makes me wonder. Now. I was surprised
Speaker 1: with the job that the defensive line was able to
Speaker 1: do last week. But that's the thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: if these guys, I don't know if a guy like
Speaker 1: Dorin's Armstrong is going to have the same type of
Speaker 1: game that he did last week against sentaponent like this.
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be a real, real, true challenge
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, and it does concern me, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why we keep talking about it's just gonna
Speaker 1: come down to who can score the most points because
Speaker 1: I don't feel confident that this. And I love Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and I love what he's doing with the defense,
Speaker 1: but I honestly don't feel confident that they can stop
Speaker 1: consistently stop a guy like my homes. Yeah, making him
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. We saw it last year in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was able to make him uncomfortable and that
Speaker 1: was the reason why they won that game. If Cowboys
Speaker 1: had all of their parts, like if they had all
Speaker 1: those guys who were those pass rushers, you know, Tanking
Speaker 1: and Gregory. I do think that maybe this is a
Speaker 1: game where you could look at that and say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe Dallas can't figure out how to get some pressure
Speaker 1: from four. I just don't know. I haven't seen it
Speaker 1: yet to be able to say they've got the guys
Speaker 1: right now that are gonna be suiting up Sunday that
Speaker 1: can do that. And if you can't do that, then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where you gotta be opportunistic. Make that one mistake that
Speaker 1: you can get out of him in that game, make it,
Speaker 1: make him pay for it, like make it a big,
Speaker 1: a big play for the defense and for this team,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna he's gonna make some plays. For sure,
Speaker 1: He's gonna make some plays because that's what they do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this defense with everybody back,
Speaker 1: just because we haven't we haven't seen an all year
Speaker 1: all of these guys on the field together. Um, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even counting Tampa. That doesn't even that doesn't
Speaker 1: even count. Michael Parsons is a shell of himself from
Speaker 1: that game to what he is now. And jay Ron
Speaker 1: Curse wasn't a factor like that. And I just want
Speaker 1: to see Randy and and you know, Tank, maybe even
Speaker 1: Gallimore in there with with Parsons playing the way he does,
Speaker 1: Curse digs at this level, it's not happened in this week,
Speaker 1: So I get it. But I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: And so and if they lose to the Bucks, maybe
Speaker 1: you can throw that as an excuse, but no one,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you lose to the Chiefs, but no
Speaker 1: one will care. Yeah, if you told me you could
Speaker 1: line up Gregory and Tank and Micah and oh so
Speaker 1: as four down linemen that are all going to be
Speaker 1: rushing the passler and then you drop seven. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good about that. I'm like, that's something you could
Speaker 1: work with. That goes back to my point of let's
Speaker 1: you know, let's say my homes throws the game winning
Speaker 1: touchdown in the final minute of the game, and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: that sucks, but we'll have Tank and Randy and like,
Speaker 1: we'll have all these guys when it when it gets
Speaker 1: cold and when it starts to match. Mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: what's kicking around in my brain. Yeah, but that's a
Speaker 1: good point. They gotta, but they gotta. I mean even
Speaker 1: to some God, I hate myself for saying that, but like,
Speaker 1: to some degree, pushing these guys to the brink, for me,
Speaker 1: it counts for something. And I don't I don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have to agree with me if you don't want to,
Speaker 1: but I think I think it would matter. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get some predictions. What do you think's gonna happen
Speaker 1: this Sunday? Dave. Let's start with you. I'm always the
Speaker 1: guy I'm always like, I gotta see it to believe it.
Speaker 1: You gotta show me. I believe. I believe in this team.
Speaker 1: I really do. Um, they've like everybody like, people try
Speaker 1: to discredit what they've done, but like they've been through
Speaker 1: some wars that again, Tampa moral victory in my book,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you think. UM, no doubt they
Speaker 1: their morale was built for They went and won six
Speaker 1: in a row. They've murdered the bad teams that they've played.
Speaker 1: They escaped from New England against I mean that win
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, looks didn't play well one Yeah,
Speaker 1: Um Dak speaks for himself. I think he's got a
Speaker 1: great shot to win MVP, and if he finds a
Speaker 1: way to win this game, I think he's the front runner.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, doubt Um. Also all of that,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're phased. I think, like to steal
Speaker 1: the talking point from Anthony Brown, I think they're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you our best shot. So I just
Speaker 1: hope it's as entertaining as I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Take the Cowboys forty two to forty one to thirty seven,
Speaker 1: just it'll be wonky, somebody will miss an extra point
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, Yamber can get on Twitter the next
Speaker 1: day and see the guys twitting one and oh no
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Oh you made a face like I said
Speaker 1: a bad word. No, no no, I'm just listen listening. Isn't
Speaker 1: that what they tweet every time they win? Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: did that have a different meaning? I didn't. I actually
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know that they did that.
Speaker 1: I guess I've missed. I've seen a couple of guys
Speaker 1: know about Yeah, they I guess they just kind of
Speaker 1: like one game at a time. College teams do that
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, but they're they're multiple guys that
Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing this year that they've been
Speaker 1: doing in there. Did they say oh and one when
Speaker 1: they lose? Doubt it? Okay, no, But anyways, um, no,
Speaker 1: Cowboys win. They're gonna win. I see a score being
Speaker 1: like thirty six thirty four, and we're gonna come back
Speaker 1: here and be excited, excited a there we go. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: see it was I think Steve on the media Mass
Speaker 1: said he could see a win over the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: and not win against the Raiders. And I definitely can
Speaker 1: see that. I've seen that, but I don't think it
Speaker 1: happens this year. But ahead, maybe maybe one game at
Speaker 1: a time. I would say one week at a time,
Speaker 1: because if I say one week at a time, I
Speaker 1: can talk about the things. There's a lot going on now.
Speaker 1: But I just think, you know, I think the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I agree with what Dave said about you know, I believe,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm a little worried to accept it
Speaker 1: of what this means. So what this game would would mean,
Speaker 1: because it would mean a lot for the cow it
Speaker 1: would be like, yep, yeah, you can call them super
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders. You have to, you know, if they go
Speaker 1: and win a game like this. So I think that
Speaker 1: they can. I think their offense is better. I think
Speaker 1: they just have more weapons and they have a better line.
Speaker 1: They have a chance to keep scoring points. I didn't
Speaker 1: agree with what Bucky said the other day. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just think you keep scoring, that'll help your defense,
Speaker 1: If you keep putting sevens on the board, that it'll
Speaker 1: help the defense, will make plays. I got Dallas thirty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty eight, all right, ten point, let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Oh Nicolas off topic, but um, when I'd read a
Speaker 1: lot of the comments on Twitter, and like, look at
Speaker 1: what people on Twitter at the show, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys have gone it, but it seems like people
Speaker 1: are kind of upset that you guys just keep it
Speaker 1: green with each other. Yeah, you guys are in tune
Speaker 1: this whole. If you don't like, we know Derek's gonna
Speaker 1: pick a win and if you don't think that drives
Speaker 1: me crazy that we all like I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. But I've there have
Speaker 1: been times when Davis heard all the other picks and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm just picking against just because I
Speaker 1: don't want us all to be picking right. And I
Speaker 1: thought that was gonna happen this week because obviously we're
Speaker 1: all gonna be picking fea. I feel different, man, I
Speaker 1: feel different about this team. He is different, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing about it. But they're just bet
Speaker 1: it was the reason why and I are different way
Speaker 1: Oh you guys have been. I would not wear my
Speaker 1: Hawaiian rainbow sweatshirt on the air. I just wouldn't. Fai
Speaker 1: I'm joking. I don't have one, and I like that.
Speaker 1: I only have you know, only have one team, David,
Speaker 1: the guy's got twenty teams. I got two teams. Yeah
Speaker 1: you do. Now we'll see how that changes. Look, I
Speaker 1: know we've we've been in sync this season more than most,
Speaker 1: and but that it's also because this team is so good, right, No,
Speaker 1: but it's we like it doesn't even have to be
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys will just be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: whatever that too. I mean, I agree with Mickey a
Speaker 1: lot sometimes and I'm like Mickey, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was just we agree a lot. That's fine. We didn't
Speaker 1: always agree. We don't always agree, and I don't David
Speaker 1: and I don't always agree. It just it just kind
Speaker 1: of happens. Ok, All right, Well, I think Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think they were just I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna go in here and they're gonna play a really
Speaker 1: good football game and they're gonna keep doing what they've
Speaker 1: been doing all year, which is they just play well.
Speaker 1: And that first game, I think they they had every
Speaker 1: opportunity to win that game. They just left a little
Speaker 1: bit too much time on the clock for for Brady.
Speaker 1: I think this game will be a little different. They'll
Speaker 1: get something out of the running game. They win thirty
Speaker 1: eight thirty five on the road in a classic. This
Speaker 1: will be one of the NFL network will be playing
Speaker 1: the week final score is gonna be seventeen thirteen. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a fun game. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really fun game. And I think the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, like, it's not gonna be maybe like it
Speaker 1: was against the Chargers or the Vikings. But I bet
Speaker 1: you Arrowhead is still loud. I guarante there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some blue. Will be a ton of blue for this game.
Speaker 1: They just they just will be. It's not too far.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fans there. They've been trying to
Speaker 1: get in this for eight years, and this is the
Speaker 1: best team that they've had in eight years. Probably. I
Speaker 1: have a vivid memory of the Terrence Williams Toe Drag
Speaker 1: Swag game in Seattle in fourteen. Yeah yeah, that I
Speaker 1: mean Seattle's like Kansas City, Like that's the standard for
Speaker 1: what a big crowd is going to be or a
Speaker 1: boatload of Cowboy fans. And that's when I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where the game is or how good
Speaker 1: the opponent is. Cowboy fans are coming and I think
Speaker 1: I expect that on Sunday as well. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: and that was a that's a very similar type of
Speaker 1: game because it was like, wait, we think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are pretty good. Little earlier in the year, but we
Speaker 1: think that they're pretty good. We know Seattle's good, they've
Speaker 1: they've been in the Super Bowl and they were the
Speaker 1: defending champions. So it's like and they went back that year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the Yeah. So I mean that was one
Speaker 1: of those type of things. And and the Cowboys went
Speaker 1: in there and beat them. And you know, if if
Speaker 1: they would have said Daz caught it, they probably would
Speaker 1: have faced them again. Yep. And you mean even if
Speaker 1: it's uh, if it's a lot of Kansas City fans there,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are preparing themselves. And we talked about it.
Speaker 1: When was that yesterday when they were blasting music all
Speaker 1: through That doesn't happen. I've heard it on our show.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can hear the rap music through
Speaker 1: the window. We've never heard it that loud. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they definitely had it, so they were getting ready during
Speaker 1: the stands. They definitely did allright. Appreciate you guys. Joan
Speaker 1: us will be back money who let you know what
Speaker 1: went right and what went wrong. Stay tuned, there's a
Speaker 1: show coming up. It's So Okay Show and might want
Speaker 1: to check it out see how it goes. Till then
Speaker 1: for Nick, Even, Dave Helmet and Ambergia come on in
Speaker 1: Been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.