1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody to Are You a Charlotte? 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Part two? Thanks for joining us. Here we go. You 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: know what we're going to talk about. We're going to 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: talk about. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: So also, I went to the archive for this one. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know well because I'm so I'm watching 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: from the beginning, right, okay, great, and we're only in 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the second season, so this is episode two thirteen, so 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: it's literally nineteen ninety nine. Take yourself back to nineteen 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine. Would you have seen this show in nineteen 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine or was there some delay in terms of 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: when you were watching Sex and the City. 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: I was twenty eight and I think still broke, so 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: I didn't have cable. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Got it. 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: I was living on one hundred and a Street in 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: the little six floor walk up, so I hadn't seen it. Wow, No, 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: I didn't see it later? 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay? Cool? I binged later? Okay? 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Or if I was at a friend's house when in 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: my two I would go over their house of course, yes. 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Got it. So this particular episode is called games People Play, Yes, 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: and it is memorable for so many reasons and really 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: enjoyable for so many reasons and for me because I 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: have I know, right Jon bon Jovi, Oh my god, 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean I remember when this was happening only because 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: it was so bizarre, Like the meeting of world is 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: so good. He's so good, right, Why didn't that matter 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: have an acting career? 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: No, I mean it was so good. 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's so simple, I know, but fascinating. And 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: when we get to the end of his sto cutting. 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Like right, I can feel the nineteen ninety nine collective size, 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: so could. 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: I like, it really took me back. I mean it 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: really did. But yet he's so honest about it. That 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: part wasn't didn't ring a bell. I didn't have any 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: men in my life who I think we're honest in 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine about themselves and their sh shortcomings, right, 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: But like he's so just like lazy, I guess because 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: he's in therapy, which we'll get to any minute. But 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's so good anyway. The thing that is 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: adorable about this episode so many things, but it's written 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: by Jenny Biggs, who came later to be our executive producer, 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: and it's incredible and make her own shows and we 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: love her very much. And it's directed by Michael Spiller, 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: who had been our DP WOW, And I think this 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: is his first episode directing, and he always wanted to direct, 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: and he had He was one of those dps where 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: he was really involved in a lot, you know what 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like had a lot of thoughts about 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: blocking and whatever. You know, he was very involved, but 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: he was very excited about directing, and I think he 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: did a great job. Like it was, it was. 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: So good, and the window watching in Miranda's window, I 57 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: didn't see it coming, right. 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: Really, you don't remember that. It's funny, right, it's funny, 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: so good, it's really interesting. I couldn't. I didn't remember 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: what happened either. I remember that she had to flash 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: because anytime where Cynthia has been naked, I always had 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety because I knew she didn't care 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: about anything. She has no fear, right, and I knew 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: no one was protecting her on set, so I would 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: always try to be like, should I come, should I 66 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: tell someone? 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: You know? 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: But it was all fine me, but I had anxiety 69 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: based on previous scenes she done where people would put 70 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: her in like positions I didn't think were like the 71 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: best or I mean, and I was like, why did 72 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: someone protect Cynthia? You know, but because she didn't care. 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: She has no fear or ego whatsoever, which, of course 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: you were so amcaring. 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: I remember one time we were shooting and you were like, 76 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Nicole hasn't eaten. Okay, she got here at four thirty 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: in the morning, and we've pushed lunch. I think someone 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: can get her some grapes. 79 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: I know. I mean honestly, sometimes I would push lunch 80 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: for so long and we're trying to remember our lines 81 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: and agains very hard, very hard. 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad I spoke up for you many times. 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm so glad, baby, I'm so glad. Okay. So we 84 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: have the incredible John bon Jovi in this episode, which 85 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: is just even weird to say. I mean, I grew 86 00:03:53,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: up on Jovi like they were inescapable and fundamental to 87 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: like the eighties. It's crazy that John bungjo he was 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: on our show. Oh my god. I'm still like, oh 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: my god. Anyway, So the thing that I also find 90 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: really funny and amazing about this particular episode, So this 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: is when Big and Carrie have broken up in the 92 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: season the episode before, and it begins with this really 93 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: funny montage of Carrie just basically complaining about her and 94 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Big to all of us separately and then together and 95 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: talking about how now she can play her music and 96 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: all these different things. But also it's kind of over 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: the top, and when people complain about Carrie being narcissistic, 98 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: which I don't believe at all, but it's it's it's 99 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: so over the top that it's almost like they somehow 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: knew that this complaint was going to be coming, you know, 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: fifteen years later or whatever it is you I mean. 102 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: And also the funny thing is that people also say 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: like that we never told her the truth. We totally 104 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: tell her the truth of this episode. Yes, she just 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: doesn't listen to it, which is how we all are 106 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: with our friends, right. It's so funny. So this, to me, 107 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: this is the episode that I'm going to get out 108 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: and remind people of the next time people want to 109 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: complain about Carrie, go to episode two thirteen exactly Gator 110 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: people play, because man, it's all here, it's all here. 111 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: So it's a really funny scene where she's just like, 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, and I just kept trying and trying trying, 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: and then we're all just looking at her like, oh God. 114 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: And then finally Miranda says, you know, maybe you should 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: go to therapy, which is hysterical. I don't remember any 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: of this, So of these episodes I look back on, 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: I remember nothing, which is weird. But you know, it's 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: like the middle of the night and everything, you know 119 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: hadn't slept. I don't know. And also in this one, 120 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I think Charlotte doesn't have the storyline because back in 121 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: the olden days, when we were twenty two minutes, there'd 122 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: be a B C D storyline, and D is very little, yes, 123 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: and so. 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: Differently the last two and a half minutes maybe. 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: Exactly or just Pepper three peer through group scenes or whatever. Whatever. 126 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I'll take that any day, you know what I'm saying. 127 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: But anyway, side note, I digress. So it's a funny 128 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: scene to me. And then this is also really funny 129 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: because Charlotte mentions her parents, which we almost never hear about, 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: right as you know, it's like this kind of you 131 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: know thing where we never really dealt with our families. 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: So everyone's talking about how they feel about therapy. Miranda's 133 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: trying to get Carrie to go Carrie's like, I don't 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: believe in therapy, and then Samantha's very funny says, honey, 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: we're all just as st up as you are. It's 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: like the blind leaving the blind, which I think is 137 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: hysterical and so true. But isn't that what friends are for, 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: right to blindly be stumbling through life and life's challenges together. 139 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: That's the point of friendship, I think, not to be 140 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: like a therapist helping each other, you know what I mean. 141 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Then I say, Charlotte says that she doesn't believe in 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: shrinks and that her family doesn't believe in shrinks. That 143 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: we believe everything could be sold by physical exercise, and 144 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: that's why they're all very good at tennis. Isn't that funny? 145 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: And then when you and I played tennis together the 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: many many years later, that was fun time. It was 147 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: really fun. Then we have adorable Stanford, who basically says 148 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: to Carrie that he has three therapists and that one 149 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: of them he just has because he's a really beautiful 150 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: man that he wants to look at, which is really funny. 151 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: So that's so adorable. And then oh my god, then 152 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: we say that Stanford wants to send Carrie to doctor Greenfield, 153 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: who is like a very desirable psychiatrist because Gwyneth Paltrow 154 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: sees her because she suffers from high self esteem. 155 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: A oh, my goodness, suffers from my self esteem. It's 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: so funny, but I love the advice she gives Carrie. 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh it's good. 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: She says, maybe the problem is you, I know, because 159 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: you're the through line in all these bad relationships. And 160 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: I didn't take it as a dig so much as 161 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: more like you're and she explained it you're picking these guys. 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: It's true, but you can see Carrie's very confused. She's like, 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: these guys are games with me. 164 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: But they're all kind of playing the same game. It's 165 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: so maybe, you know, it makes you think, am I 166 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: attracted to this kind of if you like dramatic drama? 167 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: I am I pulling this drama in Am I getting 168 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: neglected in a way that I constantly need it? 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: I know? 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: Or am I you know? 171 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Do I like jerks? I know? I hate these questions 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: so much being a single woman, we got to say 173 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: to these questions, do you Nicole? 174 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: I know? 175 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I really like since I've 176 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: been doing the show, obviously, it gets discussed a fair amount, 177 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and people talk to me about the apps and everything. 178 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I mean, you might have 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: been there when Sir Jessica threatened to put me on 180 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: the riot. Were you there? 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: No? 182 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you should know why, because first of all, 183 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: I'm terrified. 184 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: No no, and I'm going to answer as you no no, no, no. 185 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: Please don't please don't please don't please no, no, no, please no. 186 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Thirty episodes? No, please, don't please too extra. I'm really 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: glad it was thirty episodes and that's a nice round number. 188 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: I hadn't counted up. It's not enough, but at least 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: it's a nice round number. The reason I don't want 190 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: to be on Riah is two things. Number One, Candace 191 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Bushnell came on the podcast and we got a lot 192 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: of info about Riya from Candace. She's very active on there. 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: It's not a good picture that she drew for us. Really. Yeah. No, 194 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: It's good for some people, meaning the men folk, not 195 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: possibly so great for the women. From what I can 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: gather at least know about. 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: You though, is that a lot of people are covering 198 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: their real personality. You don't cover your personality. That's true, 199 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: very authentic, and if you put yourself on that site, 200 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: I feel like men would respond to what you really are. 201 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question though that relates to 202 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: this episode that I did think about what you're saying 203 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: while I watched this. So this is called games people play, 204 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: And in the episode there is discussion about the games 205 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that men and women play with each other, about dating, 206 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: and about once they're in a relationship. Right, and I 207 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Kristen suck at the games like I have no game. 208 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: You know when people are like she got game, he 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: got game? Whatever? No game? Okay, no games. 210 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: I think you're very sincere, You're very transparent. You know 211 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: where you stand on things. 212 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Why I cannot go on the app? Okay, I'm scared. 213 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm scared. Scared, don't be scared. But they're like, I 214 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: don't I don't know that they're nice. Do your name's saying? 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 216 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Do you think they're nice? 217 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean I think that men that would click. 218 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: I don't even know how it works, but you. 219 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: Have to like them, like them. 220 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: I just think with you, the guy that has the 221 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: courage to reach out to you is already like seventy 222 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: five percent, right you think, Yeah, okay, and then in 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: the other twenty five you'll find out right away. But 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: I think that you're not going to get scragglers. You 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: don't think, No, you're you don't You're not going to 226 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: get well, you're giving. 227 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Me a little bit of hope. 228 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: No, like crazy, you're the kind of person that someone's like, 229 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: that's that's the one. 230 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: But then my question would be, well, are you thinking 231 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: that I'm Charlotte. No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm 232 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: just saying that when. 233 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: You listen to you speak, when you you know, a 234 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: five minute clip of you would tell people who you are, 235 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: like how kind you are and funny you are, and 236 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: smart you are, and real you are and hot you are, 237 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: and you know, I think someone would know what they're 238 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: getting into. 239 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: You think, yeah, all right, maybe one day. 240 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: You're really really famous, so he has to come out 241 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: the gate kind of confident. 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: You're not going to. 243 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: Get shug sheltered. 244 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: God, you're so funny. Thank you, that's so nice. Can 245 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I tell you my other concern, which I know you 246 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: will relate to as your mom's self. Since I've been 247 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: doing this and different people have been talking to me 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: about this, right, I've really contemplated it, like why am 249 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I not doing this? What is holding me back from 250 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: doing this? And one of the things is I just 251 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: don't really have time to date. Like dating takes time. 252 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: You have to leave the house, leave the children, turing mean, 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: spend time at a dinner with a person that you 254 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: don't know, two hours max. 255 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: But like, if your kids are at home watching something 256 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: that they want, don't watch when you're around the nanny 257 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: is letting them watch squid game. 258 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Jah, stop that. No they're not. But let me ask 259 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: you this. And I know it's really hard to imagine 260 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: because you have Boris, thank god, but like you know, 261 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: my kids are seven and fourteen, right, they still really 262 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: need me. I mean especially the seven year old. Like 263 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: would you have been like, yeah, I'm gonna go out 264 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: and date. 265 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's two hours worth. 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Ah, I'm not going to answer that question. You guys, 267 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: would you have. 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I've been married for twenty years, so 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, mommy and daddy are going out. Yeah, 270 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: and maybe one time. The first time it's like, but 271 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: where a right? And after that they were like bye. 272 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: They to also show your children that, oh, don't even start, 273 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: I know where is say don't, don't don't. 274 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: That is the full person and model for them that 275 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: being social is safe and and being doing grown up 276 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: things is safe. You listen, if you keep playing this game, 277 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: mommy doesn't leave the house, your kids are never leaving 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: the house. You're gonna have twenty seven year olds living 279 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: at your house. 280 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: First of all, I'd be fine with that. 281 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: Me two secrets. Yeah, but I like that I have 282 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: adventurous souls, right. I mean, Sophie is the partier, you know, 283 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: but she likes to have the party at home. Oh y, yeah, 284 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: she like brings the people over there. 285 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Nice. I think you probably have a really fun house. 286 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm I like to be like my house 287 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: is my sanctuary. But I have social kids, and which 288 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: is good. But it's good for me, right, yes, right, 289 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: for sure. 290 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, min not young, right, And I 291 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: mean I don't want to talk too much about them 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: because of their privacy, etcetera. But like, you know, they're 293 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty social. They're pretty social. It's going pretty well. They're 294 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: probably more social than myself when I was young. 295 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Or now, how about this, how about for a little 296 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: pre New Year's resolution, you don't have to go to 297 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: a long dinner okay, from seven to nine okay, okay, 298 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: then I would miss bedtime that you would miss bedtime. 299 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: How about breakfast? But the kids didn't do that? 300 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, the kids are in school. 301 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh you mean after dinner in school? Okay, you dropped them? 302 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Mean when I wake up at six? 303 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: No, don't have a full meal. 304 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: That's good. 305 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Have a little tea, a little croissant, love it. Take 306 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: the kids to school and have like an eight thirty breakfast. 307 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay. I like that. I like that, you know what. 308 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: I like that. 309 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: There's some parameters there, and you keep that only interested 310 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: in Kuss. That's going to get a really interesting group 311 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of people who are going to respond to that. That's 312 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: really interesting. All Right, I'm gonna maul that over. I'm 313 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: going to take it to heart. I like your advice. 314 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: I honor the fact that you're in a really successful, 315 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: incredible partnership with an incredible person. So I take your 316 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: advice to heart. Thank you, Nicole. And I really have 317 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: been mulling it all over, partly because I think also 318 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: for me, because of work. Right, my time away from 319 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: the kids was for work because obviously we film in 320 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: New York. My kids live in La so either they 321 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: were with me in the summer, or I was separated 322 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: from them and trying to fly back and forth. As 323 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, we were both in this mix for a while, 324 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: so there wasn't an extra amount of time that I 325 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: would go like, oh, now I'm going to be away 326 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: from them to date. You know what I'm saying. But 327 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: now I theoretically don't have that. Theoretically, they tell me, right, 328 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: so I should potentially come up with something else to 329 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: do with my time. I guess, is this making any exist? 330 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Do you like my little thinking? 331 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: I didn't think it's more self protection and that I 332 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: am here to encourage you, as your friend off screen, 333 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: to let yourself live. 334 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm going to try to let myself live you. 335 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: I had a few old fashioned things to believe it 336 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: or not. And when I met Boris, we were on 337 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: a show and we were working together, so it was 338 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: very professional. And when we finally admitted that we liked 339 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: each other and he wanted to ask me out on 340 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: a real date, I had very real concerns about being 341 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: on the show. 342 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah and so, but I also. 343 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, my mom, if a boy 344 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: asked me out, he would wait on the sofa, she 345 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: would talk to him. I would come downstairs and we 346 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: would go out love it. I wasn't even thinking, but 347 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: he drags me for this moment. He'd asked me out 348 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: on a date on our day off. It was clear 349 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: that this was a date, that there was interest, and 350 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: I rented a little apartment and he but it was 351 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: on the ground floor in a house. So he knocked 352 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: on the door and I opened the door and said, 353 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: I'll be right out. 354 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: You could have a. 355 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: Seat, because it was just this weird response of proper 356 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: and I didn't know it was weird until he was like, 357 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: excuse me, I'll be out in a second. 358 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: It's great, So you're a lady. I was a lady. 359 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah for five minutes, but I was. No. 360 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: We got to know each other. But I'm just saying, 361 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: you can respect your boundaries and still live a little Okay. 362 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I think that's good. That's good. That's very balanced, very balanced, 363 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: ad by thinking Nicole, I appreciate it. Let's go back 364 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: to the episode. Yes games people, games people, Yes, games 365 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: people play. Carrie goes to therapy. You believe it. I 366 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: need I mean once in the whole thirty years she 367 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: went to therapy and the guy the sorry. She meets 368 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: Jum ben Jovi in the waiting room, which of course 369 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: then takes precedence to what this therapist is saying to her, which, 370 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: as you said, is very appropriate advice, which is, maybe 371 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: she is the through line of all these be seen 372 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: problems in the other person, and then maybe she should 373 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: look at herself, which is incredibly good advice generally speaking, 374 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: right like in all things. And then and then she 375 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: she tells us that that she is she has been 376 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: told that she's picking the wrong man, that she's a 377 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: game player. And then I say, Charlotte says, you have 378 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: to be a game player to deal with men. And 379 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: then Miranda says it's delusional to play games. And then 380 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Carrie says, it's the wrong guy's picking her. So we 381 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: do some mental gymnastics. 382 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: The representing all the voices. 383 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: We are representing all the voices, all the voices, and 384 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think. Then we go 385 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: to this crazy sports bar, which I don't really remember 386 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: at all. This is one of those ones where I'm like, 387 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I guess I was there, I don't remember this. We 388 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: go to this sports bar because Samantha thinks we're going 389 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: to meet the men's. The men's there, and we do. 390 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: We meet some men. Of course, Samantha meets a man 391 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: where everything is dependent the sex life is dependent on 392 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: whether the Knicks win, which is kind of hysterical. And 393 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that was the time when the Knicks were not winning. 394 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: So then she gets very fed up because then he 395 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: moves on to baseball and she's like, no, I can't 396 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: deal with this. I am often struck when I look 397 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: back at these early episodes with what Samantha puts up with. 398 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I know, right, because Samantha is supposed to be like 399 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: the most powerful one of us, right, Yeah, she puts 400 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: up with a lot, a lot, and then she sweetly 401 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: and then she doesn't. She gets she gets through it, 402 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: and then there's no gray area, right like whereas the 403 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: rest of us might be trying to struggle through, trying 404 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: to struggle through. She's like, no, I'm done, which I 405 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate. So then we're back. John bon Jovi walks 406 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: out of the door at the therapist, and I really 407 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: thought for a second that he was playing himself because 408 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: we've already said that Gwyneth goes to this therapist, right, 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: And then I was like, wait, does he I couldn't 410 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: even remember. No, he's playing another character, but he's still himself. 411 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: It's really distracting and strange, you know what I mean. 412 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: But he was so good, so good. 413 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then once they go to have dinner together, 414 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm he's not John bun Job, 415 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: he's me too, and they look so good together. Jeezus. 416 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: That Twister game, Oh my god. 417 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: The Twister Game is just beyond and Sara's got those 418 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: yellow short songs. It's excellent. I remember all of this 419 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: in a vague way of like me being like so curious, 420 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: but not wanting to go to the set because I 421 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: would be like a luky Loo fan, do you know 422 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: what I mean? But I did meet him. He was lovely. 423 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: It's just so real. You know, he's such like a 424 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: regular guy. You know what was that like for. 425 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: You to be on those to see those sets of 426 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: those early years, Like you know, Carrie's apartment has moved on, 427 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: and like that Twister game, for example, was in that apartment. 428 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: To me, Carrie's apartment was always Carrie's apartment. I mean 429 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: we did redo it in I guess the second film, 430 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: and I was like, this wallpaper is whacked like I 431 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: wanted to be its regular old dingy self. Do you what 432 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I never wanted any changes, Like in 433 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: my mind, Carrie's apartment is still this, Oh do you 434 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like I didn't even care that 435 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: Lazette lives there or whatever, doesn't matter, Like Carrie's apartment 436 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: is still this in my mind, with that weird, you know, 437 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: loungey thing with that kind of crazy fabric garnet that 438 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: looks like it's from the eighties, you know what I'm saying. Like, 439 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: and the sheets. I love that they have some beautiful 440 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: shots of Sir Jusca at night time, I think because 441 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: our DP is directing right and her leg is out 442 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: and her sheets and it had like kind of dark 443 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: swirls on the sheets. And you know, we spent so 444 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: much time in that apartment that that apartment to me 445 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: is just that apartment and it lives on in my 446 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: mind unchanged. You know, it doesn't matter where she moves. 447 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: And I did think this is a crazy thought, because 448 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: as we all know, the Grammercy Park was a beautiful apartment. 449 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Side note, I just want to say that the small 450 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: kitchen is historically accurate to everyone complaining about that. That 451 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: is historically accurate, and probably the true kitchen of the 452 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: house would have been on the bottom floor, right, but 453 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: that building has been separated, so there's you know, the 454 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: kitchens didn't always get to live on that were in 455 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: the bottom floor unless you had someone restore the whole house. 456 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: And gut and do all those things walls. 457 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Right, So that is one hundred percent accurate. And I'm 458 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: so annoyed with everyone talking about the blueprint of our apartments. 459 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 2: They live in other states. 460 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: It's true they do. It just takes a google, so 461 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: Yorkers know it totally. Yeah. Okay, great, I got that 462 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: off my off my mind, thank you. So I just 463 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: want to talk in my mind when okay, we've got Miranda. 464 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: She sees a really cute guy across the way, who's 465 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: Who's Who's slightly undressed. She thinks he's looking at her. 466 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was looking I thought he was looking 467 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: her too. She eventually flashes her breast god lover, and 468 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: then she sees him in the grocery store and she 469 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: plays hide and seek with him, which is the games 470 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: people play. I do love the thematic, you know, continuation 471 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: through this episode. And then he doesn't know who she is, 472 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: and she's like, I live across the airsheft from you, 473 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: and then he goes, oh yeah, you live underneath the 474 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: guy I am flirting with or whatever, flashing. I know 475 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: she's mortified, and I was mortified listening to it, and 476 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh me too. I was also shocked. 477 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: I didn't remember that part at all. 478 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: Do you know what's a funny detail till about that 479 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: scene in the grocery store. It's the same grocery store 480 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: that I call that LTW you call me Charlotte and says, oh. 481 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: My god, oh my god, help me what this guy 482 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: did you know when you were filming that? Seeing that 483 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: it was the same and the. 484 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: Counter space is set up the same way right where 485 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: I have the conversation with you is the same grocery store. 486 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: That's so funny. I wonder if our locations people knew this. 487 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure. 488 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: I love it so much. I'll love it throwback. I 489 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: love it so much. Okay, so then we get we're 490 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: playing the Twister. The Twister is a dream of two 491 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: incredibly attractive people play Twister as a kid. I was like, 492 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember me too, know me neither. 493 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: No. 494 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: It took some I was. 495 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Like, hey, Boris, did you ever play Twister? 496 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Did he No, not in Germany? Huh no, oh sad, Yeah, 497 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: oh we played Twister a lot. Was like high, high level. 498 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: It was so sexy, very sexy, because they're very sexy 499 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: and very charming. But when they have sex and then 500 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: it's afterwards and they're laying in the sheets and Carrie says, hey, 501 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: why are you in therapy? And he very simply says, 502 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm really picked up with women. I lose interest right 503 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: after I sleep with them. The gut punch, the. 504 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Gut punch herd around the world. I mean, but I 505 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: loved a man being that honest though. Even if it's 506 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 2: like a knife wound, at least you're knowing it early, absolutely. 507 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: And you're not home wondering why they're not calling you, 508 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: which is a really evil thing to do. 509 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: I want to say, I got mommy issues. 510 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good just talking on the phone. Fess, yeah, 511 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: confess your issue. It's much better from Jump, right, yes, right, 512 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't exactly from Jump because they've already 513 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: slept together. 514 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. Well, she didn't ask him until after this. 515 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: That's so true. She would have asked them right away. 516 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: I know I was surprised, but I think she doesn't 517 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: want him to ask her. Oh right, yeah, you ask 518 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: that they're going to ask you, and you're going to 519 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: have to say. She doesn't want to say I picked 520 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: the wrong men, you know, which is what she says 521 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: to him before. 522 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: This is why when you have your coffee and croissant 523 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: ate after the drop off. 524 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Yes, after, before I call you, you can just have 525 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: a couple of questions and no, what should the questions be? 526 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: Nicle? What issues have you had with women? 527 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Really? 528 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 529 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god? What are the top three things that 530 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: aren't healed in you? 531 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: What small orbic you? Guys? And Nicole wants me to 532 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: go to the depth over a quissant. Yeah, wow, I. 533 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: Got to get back home and make sure your home 534 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: for the kids. 535 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: You're so right? Okay, what else? 536 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: And how do you feel about your own future? 537 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. I think I would start 538 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: with that one. I feel like that one's better, easier. 539 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: Well, I think you would give him the cupcake at 540 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: the end about your future because the first two are 541 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: feel like he doesn't feel judged, but you got to 542 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: get the information, okay, and the third one is more 543 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: about I'm actually interested in you? 544 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Okay? Do I want to reserve the third question for 545 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: whatever the answers might be, meaning I might want to 546 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: hear the answers to the first two before I give 547 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: the cupcake of the potential future. 548 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think you can't leave a person broken and exposed. 549 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: So this is the best advise you. Guys. 550 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, if he tells you about what I 551 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: feel like an honest answer, Yes, and it's both of 552 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: you are a little shocked that it's coming out this 553 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 2: soon over coffee at eight thirty in the morning. You 554 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: also want to make sure that you are interested in 555 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: the joy people want for themselves. 556 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: Yes, because say you have. 557 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: You're attracted to someone he's like, I want to just 558 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: surf in Bermuda. Then you know that that gives him happiness. 559 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: But you're not an ocean person, you know what I mean. 560 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: But you're interested in what brings that person joy, not 561 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: what just breaks. 562 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: Them for sure. 563 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: And I think you leave a person happy that they're honest, 564 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: but also that they're that you've reconnected them to find. 565 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Joy to joy, to joy to joy to their own joy. Yes, 566 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: that's so nice, Nicole. I'm here for you. Oh my gosh, 567 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: should be a matchmaker. I just watched that movie last night, 568 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Dakota Johnson. 569 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: Did you see the Materials? 570 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Is so good? So good, so good? Oh my god. Anyway, 571 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: sorry I digress. So I mean, look, we just covered 572 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: the episode. It's very exciting because to me, you're timeless, 573 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I know, so timeless and so completely still relevant all 574 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: the questions and I know what you're. 575 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: Like, a blossoming mom, business woman, podcaster and everyone remember 576 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: in Paris, everyone was like, so how does it feel 577 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: to be a woman in your fifties? So how does 578 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: it feel to Yeah, and this is now a new 579 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: iteration of the show about being older, And I'm like, 580 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: you're like twenty on the inside, Like I don't even 581 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm going to say on a date Like 582 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: that's season one, that's so true. 583 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Do you remember that time we were in the limo 584 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: with all of your fake children and all of my 585 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: fake children for quite some time and one of the 586 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: children I'm not going to say who decided to try 587 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: to explain to you how to take a selfie? Do 588 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: you remember this? And I was like, do not tell 589 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Nicole how to take a selfie? She knows she knows 590 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: how to take a selfie, and they were like, put 591 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the camera download. Do you remember this? 592 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: No? 593 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, You're so funny. And I was like, listen, ladies, 594 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: you did not put the camera down low. Okay, I 595 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: am old. And you're like, don't say that. Do you 596 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: remember that? You would always say to me, don't say yes, 597 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, but Nicole, I am owning it. 598 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying to these children because they are young, right, 599 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: you fake children especially this might have been first season, Yes, 600 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: they were very young, and like to me saying I'm old, 601 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: I feel like, well, I'm owning my life experience. I've 602 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of it, right, but I now see 603 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: It's also like your brain is also hearing you say that, 604 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: and is that the best way to put it? 605 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: Right? Which? Do you know how I say it? Tell 606 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: me I say I'm grown. 607 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. I'm grown. That's good. That's good. 608 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: That's good. That means I have time and the seed 609 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: has broken in the flower and. 610 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: We're not going to mess around with nonsense. 611 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: No, that's good. I will still going to tar high heels. 612 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: Babe, any anything day you bring out the cursing in 613 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: me it's so interesting. Freedom. I feel freedom when I 614 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: met Nicole, you beautiful thing. 615 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 2: Gorgeously I got to see you. 616 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I know, I was so scared you wouldn't want to 617 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: come on. Then it would be too fresh. But I 618 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. It's fresh. 619 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: But seeing you heals the wound. 620 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: I know. 621 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: It feels better, doesn't it? Being together? It does? I 622 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: know we need to plan something for the five of us. Yeah, 623 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be nice? I want m LA. 624 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have eight thirty breakfast with you. 625 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh great, amazing. 626 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: You can rehearse. 627 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 628 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: Can practice, you can practice. 629 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I'll be the guy, guy clothes, you could do it? Yes, okay, great? 630 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: Oh like we could be a very very attractive woman. 631 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to hit on. 632 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: And with that, we'll see you next way. 633 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Way wait wait, wait, wait, are you miss Charlotte Nicole? 634 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Are you a Charlotte? 635 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: I am a Charlotte's bestie? 636 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: You of all people, get this that, okay, But if 637 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have that option and you had to say 638 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: one of the original four, what would you say? 639 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: I am Charlotte on the inside, yes, and carry on 640 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: the outside. 641 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's true. Yeah, I mean I feel 642 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: very charlottey from you, you know, in terms of like 643 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: your day, your day is about your children and arranging 644 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: things for them, making everything wonderful for them and for 645 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: boris like you're so committed, you know, to your family 646 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: and making their lives wonderful, which is so Charlotte right, 647 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: and your dogs. You know, like you have a lot 648 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: of Charlotte life, Like your life looks like hers in 649 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But you're also like a career woman, 650 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: you know you've got it all right. But then I 651 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: also think just your presentation is kind of like thoughtful 652 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: and carry esque in terms of like questions and listening 653 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: to people and you. 654 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Know, pondering life, wondering yes with your beautiful. 655 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Eyes and wearing purple shoes. 656 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: Totally yes. 657 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, honey. I have a 658 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: wonderful guest.