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Speaker 1: When you first made it to the WNBA, who was

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Speaker 2: When I first made it to the WNBA, who was

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Giller. She's a sleeper, Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: Killer oftentimes out of sleepers, so.

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Speaker 1: She gave you work.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, like jen she wasn't really a sleeper.

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Speaker 2: It was just she was old school. You know. She

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Speaker 2: spent so many so much time like overseas, so she

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Speaker 2: came you know, when she came back, like there were

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Speaker 2: so many just kind of like, you know, women's basketball greats,

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Speaker 2: but they hadn't been at home playing in front of everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Jennifer had this like slow motion fall away. It

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Speaker 2: was just hard for anybody's reguards. So it wasn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: the buckets. It was just that it was one of

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Speaker 2: those shots, like a Kareem hook shot that you just

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Speaker 2: didn't get to, you know, you couldn't stop couldn't stop it.

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Speaker 3: Yo yo yo. We live on location and staying at

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Speaker 3: home though, me and the blackest one here in Orlando,

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Speaker 3: and we got the very very special guests. This is

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Speaker 3: this is women's basket, this is basketball Royalty, just women's

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Speaker 3: This is basketball royalty in general. We got the all

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Speaker 3: time great, all of fame, legendary Tina Thompson in the

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Speaker 3: building and now coaching at University of Virginia. Y'all, young

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Speaker 3: girls need to go run.

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Speaker 1: Up on the Inglewood Morningside.

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Speaker 2: To go to Morningside was just well, you know, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm originally from Los Angeles, like born and raised, so

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Speaker 2: it was amazing. But I went there for the first practice.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like a tryout, and you know,

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Speaker 2: was like, what is going on here? I went home.

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Speaker 2: like one of my family friends made some calls and

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Speaker 3: So they had sandals and Daisy Dukes actually on the court.

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Speaker 2: Dukes. Well, they were all just out there like socializing,

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Speaker 4: So when you got to Foresight, like what was it like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I didn't know it because I'm from LA

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Speaker 2: Especially when you're younger. If you're from Inglewood, you're from Inglewood,

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Speaker 4: When did you start like making some noise where you

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Speaker 4: was getting offers from college? Like what year was that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I was still in junior high school. And

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Speaker 2: I started getting letters, but I didn't know it like

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Speaker 2: I was a basketball player just because I loved it,

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Speaker 2: like my brother played it. The guys in our neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: So how did you how did how did that process

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Speaker 3: How did that do? How did that process play out

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was I was one of those

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Speaker 1: So when you get there and you know, now you're

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Speaker 2: Well it was good, I mean just because of just

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Speaker 2: Every single day. My teammates would be like, dude, like

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Speaker 2: mean it was just like I didn't want to miss anything.

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Speaker 1: Like we did feel like y'all got better to like

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Speaker 2: Oh well, my freshman year we were good. Lisa actually

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Speaker 2: You know it's it's so funny, Like every aspect of

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Speaker 2: went from offering me thirty thousand dollars to like ten

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00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: times as much. And you know, the ABL. I don't

435
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 2: know if you guys are how familiar you are with that,

436
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: but the ABL had started before the WNBA, so there

437
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: were two leagues. WNBA in the summer, but the ABL

438
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: started in the winter, and they were offering me like

439
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: six hundred thousand dollars, So like, you offered me thirty

440
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.

441
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm like crazy.

442
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: I think it literally was like thirty four. It was

443
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: like less than thirty five thousand dollars. I absolutely cannot

444
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: do that. So it's pretty months.

445
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, so what, Yeah, that's crazy.

446
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, how did that like for us?

447
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean obviously us in the whole world. We had

448
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: the ninety two Dream Team with Michael Magic and Bird.

449
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: How did the.

450
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: Ninety sixteen with the w NBA women, How did how

451
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: did that? How did that impact you?

452
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Oh? It's set the tone. I mean I think in

453
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: any women's basketball player, if you were for real player,

454
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: you were.

455
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: Tuned in, right, I mean we were too.

456
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

457
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 2: I was waiting. Yeah, I was waking up in the

458
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: middle of the night like wow, like they are. I

459
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: mean I was on the journey with them, you know,

460
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: I was like watching the specials and stuff like that,

461
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: like this is the coolest thing ever. Like they are

462
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: changing how people see our game, you know, of course

463
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: there were some you know, universities that had like a

464
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: huge following and stuff like that, but just the game

465
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: as a whole, they just changed how everybody just kind

466
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 2: of looked at our game because they were sweeping people

467
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: like it was amazing, and just the individuality and just

468
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: all the different stories like it just made in my opinion,

469
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: it just gave us a very personal connection, you know,

470
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: to the rest of the world and just people like

471
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: saw us different. So that those guys changed the game.

472
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like we watched the Dream Team, like, you know,

473
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 4: just so much talent. You never seen all the women

474
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 4: like a whole all star team just killing like that

475
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: behind the back pass.

476
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: It's like the chemistry how they were playing the dominant

477
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: news too. That was just like it was amazing to

478
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: see that.

479
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 4: And it seems like for the women's game, they have

480
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: a dream team every they go to the Olympics.

481
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: We do.

482
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Every year.

483
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 4: It'd be like, man, they got all the like every

484
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: time they got all of them.

485
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: It's it's like it on the women's side. And I'm

486
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: not saying that it's not like this and the men,

487
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: but just because that is all we had, Like that

488
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: was the top, you know, like representing your country and

489
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: just having a connection to basketball in the US, there

490
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: is a commitment and like a sacrifice and a love

491
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: that everybody has about being a part of it. You know.

492
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: For the guys, like they had a choice, you know,

493
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: they had the NBA and you know they're getting paid,

494
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, money that lasts a lifetime, like in a

495
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: way that they didn't have to play in USA basketball.

496
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: For US, it was, you know, the NBA Like in

497
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: a sense, it was kind of like the pinnacle of

498
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, what you do from a career perspective. So

499
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 2: just the commitment to just the national team program that

500
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: we have is just it's crazy, Like the sacrifice by

501
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: all these world class players. It is just a camaraderie

502
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: that you just don't get in a lot of things.

503
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 4: Actually, was the Olympic team the first time you've been

504
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: on a team where everybody on the team is one

505
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: of them dogs, like like like everybody on the team

506
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 4: is just they're good.

507
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: That the first time because you played with so many

508
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: men comments.

509
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say.

510
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, we're talking about but from top to bottom,

511
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: you know, you know, from.

512
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Top to bottom. It was just that people didn't know them,

513
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: but like we had like players on our team that

514
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: were you know, the focus was myself, Cheryl and SYNTHI it,

515
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: but Janefe Arkine was cold. I mean like probably, if

516
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: not other than Mark. She is the best Brazilian player

517
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: that has ever hit the game. Jeanette Arkane was the

518
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: best individual player on our team. I know that that

519
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: sounds crazy to say myself, Cynthia and Cheryl. She was

520
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: the best individual player on our team because she could

521
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: do everything. She played from the one to the four

522
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: on our team. So if we went small, like I

523
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: was playing the five and was playing the four, and

524
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: then you had Cheryl, Cynthia and Ken right, and then

525
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: she would play the one like she played the one

526
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: on our team, and then she played the two and

527
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: the three like she played every position with the exception

528
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: of like playing the five, and just individually, she was

529
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: I mean, not the Cherylyn, Cynthia and myself like weren't

530
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: you know that kind of goes without saying, but she

531
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: was unreguardable. It was we had done. We would do

532
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: these tours and we would go to like different countries

533
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: and play like these club teams in the off season,

534
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: and we went to Brazil and Jenees was every club

535
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: team that we played, they were inviting her to come

536
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: and play for their team. So she played for her

537
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: home team, and then she played for everybody else. Every

538
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: single guard on our old w NBA team tried to

539
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: guard her and she probably averaged fifty We won, but

540
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: not one person. Teresa Webston. I think she did the

541
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: best job, but she probably had thirty five of the fifty.

542
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

543
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so how how was that though, playing with that,

544
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: with that comments team, when you came in and win

545
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: in winning championships, championships and being.

546
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: And basically and going to Houston.

547
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: And then just being like for the for the for

548
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: the longest, it was like y'all would have standard in

549
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 3: the nw everybody was like nobody else is gonna win

550
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: or I could just you know, they just win, win, win.

551
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: It was like nobody, I'm not the Rockets, I'm sorry

552
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: to comments y'all. It was like y'all would have standard.

553
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: How was that being a part of that.

554
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, it was the funny thing about that is that

555
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: we knew that we were really good before anybody else

556
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: knew that we were good. So in that first year,

557
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: we weren't even predicted to make the playoffs, so they

558
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: didn't pick us to be in the playoffs. So that

559
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: was kind of you know, Coop, if you guys know

560
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: Coop she is. But I mean, she forever has a

561
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: chip on her shoulder, you know, like she does not

562
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: all like to be disrespected, and she just assumes that

563
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna be that you're gonna disrespect her. So how

564
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: she comes at you is so hard at all times

565
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: just kind of who she is. It's, you know, just

566
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: one of those characteristics, just the beauty of who she is.

567
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: She's just that competitive. And the other people that we had.

568
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: We had Tammy Jackson, we had Wanda Geiden, We had

569
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Amaya Valdemorro. She was, you know, a player from Spain,

570
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: one of their best like young players. We had Alanta Chakova,

571
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Like we had all these players that were so good

572
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: from where they were and from their country and people

573
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: just didn't know, like the other players in the WNBA

574
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: did because they played against them, but like the world,

575
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: the audience didn't know. So we knew that we were good.

576
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 2: We knew that we were really good. And it's a

577
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: credit to Carol Dawson. He was the president of the

578
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets. He picked that team, so, I mean his

579
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: basketball mind is unbelievable. Like he picked our team, including me,

580
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: from like a box of tapes. So he just went

581
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: through hours and hours and hours of take and didn't

582
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: know any of us, hadn't met us, had no idea

583
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: who I was, and blessing he told us, you know this,

584
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: this is who we need to pick. Van Chancellen wanted

585
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: to uh draft Pam McGee. He was one of the

586
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: McGee sisters who went to you, and he was Cheryl Miller.

587
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: He wanted to draft her and Less was like, no,

588
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: you know where we're or Carol CD was like, we're

589
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: going with Tina. So that's how I became the number

590
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: one pick. But it was just one of those things

591
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: where just the attitude of everybody when you talk about

592
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: just kind of being a dog like they were the

593
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 2: best from where they came from. So their attitude was,

594
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, we win, like that's what I do, and

595
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: everyone just kind of fell, you know, in line. We

596
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: didn't have Cheryl in that first year because she was

597
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: having her son, Jordan. She was pregnant, so it's just me,

598
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Cynthia and Jeanette and Kim and we just kind of

599
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: went to work. Like when you have Cynthia kind of

600
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: leading you like just your attitude and your mindset is different.

601
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Like I thought that I was a killer and didn't

602
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: really know that there was kind of like another level

603
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: to it. But she just had another level in her.

604
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: So when I think for me, like other than Sheelle Miller,

605
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: because I think the Shelle Miller is the greatest women's

606
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: basketball player of all time, easy call like no conversation.

607
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Cynthia was the one player while I was like I

608
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: can follow her lead.

609
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Jont I was, but.

610
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: The work ethic was crazy. I had I hadn't seen

611
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: anything like it.

612
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: When I seen y'all three kind of falling together.

613
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: When when Soups came back and so for a phone,

614
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: it was like because a lot of the women starting

615
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: that lead, you know, you didn't hear too much about

616
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: too many of you heard about the fud. So when

617
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: you start doing your research and trying to find out

618
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: that you love in the game, trying to find out

619
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: who who's who. When we when y'all start playing together,

620
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: it was like y'all still window champs.

621
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: It was like, man, how did they let everything?

622
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I seriously think that, you know,

623
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: just people. I think it's just being like people being

624
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: like just sleepers and the people they're like sleeping on you.

625
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I literally think that I have been like, uh, just

626
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a serial sleeper. Like for some reason, like

627
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: people just think that they could just like sleep, you

628
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it was kind of like, yeah,

629
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: you know she's good, but you know, her hair is

630
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: too neat, her ponytail is too neat, and she wears

631
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: lipstick like it can't be that serious, you know, like

632
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: just the mindset. And then you know, I mean, I

633
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: maybe because I was from La, like I heard the

634
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: rumblings about kind of what she was doing overseas, like

635
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but I knew, and I'm like

636
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: I knew, and I'm not kind of like in you know,

637
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: the basketball like no, you know, just because I was

638
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: over here like in my own lane. But just for

639
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: some reason, like people just didn't see it. Like Jeannetta

640
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: ar Kine, if you watch the Olympics, she's like one

641
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: of the players like leading that team, So how do

642
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: you not pick her? So I just think that just

643
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: people they weren't students, like they weren't informed and Carol

644
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Dawson is a student of the game, Like he picked

645
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: our entire team from a box of tapes, so he

646
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: just watched everybody. It wasn't just us in there, it

647
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: was the whole league. So he's going through all this

648
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: film and he picks our team from a box of

649
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: cassette tapes vhs.

650
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

651
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: Tell me how how the ninety nine season went when

652
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: you guys had to deal with the loss of your

653
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: teammate Kim Parole. How hard was that to overcome? And

654
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: then how much did it mean to still win that championship?

655
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: Man? That is I think other than I think they're

656
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: probably like the I know that the biggest loss in

657
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: my life before then was losing my grandmother, my mom's mother. Kim,

658
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah cry today, Kim. She Yeah, that was literally one

659
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: of the toughest moments in my life.

660
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can. I can remember that.

661
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: She was. She was like the glue to our team,

662
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: like we had, you know, big personalities like Cynthia and

663
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Cheryl had big personalities, Like it wasn't wonder why they

664
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: were so good, you know, because they were just big,

665
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, they were stars, Like they were just bright

666
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: and just kind of who they were, and you know,

667
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: Cynthia had to share when she was with Cheryl Miller.

668
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: You know, but it's Cheryl Miller, you know what I mean, Like,

669
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: so you don't say anything when you're on the team

670
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: with Cheryl Miller, you know. But Cynthia went away and

671
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: she you know, proved herself and she turned herself into

672
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: a player. And you know, Cheryl had just come off

673
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: of the ninety six you know, Olympic team, and she

674
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: had this whirlwind of like a college kind of career

675
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: and she was just killing, putting up incredible numbers. Both

676
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 2: of them thought that I'm the girl. Cynthia's like I'm

677
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: the person, you know, and Cheryl's like I'm the person.

678
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: And I'm just looking at them like, Lord, have mercy,

679
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: like grow up, you know, like you guys, do what

680
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: you're for this, you know. And it was just so funny.

681
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: So Kim was the one person because her maturity level,

682
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: like I personally didn't have the patience. I would let

683
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: him go and then I'd be like, hey, like enough,

684
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, you know, we're not like I'm not I'm

685
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: not I'm a guy's girl, So I'm not the girl

686
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: that does like the chick stuff, you know, So it's

687
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: kind of like going back and forth. I'm like I

688
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: can't you know. So Cam was the one, you know,

689
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: she had the patience, like she could go and like, hey,

690
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: let me talk to you, you know, like hey, you know,

691
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: let me let me talk to you. And then she'd

692
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: be like, tee, give him another chance, like, you know,

693
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: don't just you know, don't just kind of like walk

694
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: off and just be like they need to grow up

695
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: and not kind of like invest into the situation. So

696
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: she was just that person that could communicate with everybody

697
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: at any level and nobody take offense because where she did,

698
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: how she did it, where it was coming from, it

699
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: was no doubt that it was pure, you know, and

700
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: she wanted to win and she was just grateful to

701
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: be in that circumstance with us. Now she earned it.

702
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: But Kim was the only player on our team that

703
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: was picked from the open tryouts. So they had this

704
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: open tryouts where they brought I think it was like

705
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy something players.

706
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: Wow, they picked.

707
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: One player like out of that group, and it was

708
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: the smallest player. It was Kim, Like she fought her way,

709
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of threw I came at like

710
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: the later, the latter part of it, and I was like,

711
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't know who she is, Like she's small, but

712
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: she's good, you know. And coach, you know, he was like, no,

713
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: she's too small. I don't like small guards.

714
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: You know.

715
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: He just he just didn't want her. But she made him.

716
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: She made him, she made him take her. And that

717
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: was kind of all she wrote. And then to just

718
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: kind of suddenly find out and then it happened so fast.

719
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: She went from being in practice to gone and you know,

720
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: just going to met, to go in all these different places,

721
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: getting treatments, and you know, we were falling apart because

722
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: we were emotionally now when we stepped on the floor,

723
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: it was business as usual, but off the floor, Cynthia

724
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: Kim was her best friend, you know, in that environment,

725
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: she was a wreck. Cynthia was also going her mom

726
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: was sick as well. So we were just going through

727
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: so much. The you know, competitive level of our practices

728
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: were different because we were just emotionally drained. Our reality

729
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: before that was we knew that we were good because

730
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: we felt like our practice every day were sometimes harder

731
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: than the games we played, So that was different for us.

732
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: We were just not ourselves, but knowing that we were

733
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: doing it for her. When the lights turned on, it

734
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: was just like, you know, let's go to work. And

735
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: then we walked off the floor. By the time we

736
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: got to the locker room, I know, me crying tears,

737
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, just so emotionally like overwhelmed. But we got

738
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: through it. It was it was hard, but you know,

739
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: we figured it out. And then when we won our

740
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: third one, if you look back at the pictures, like

741
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: we're all just like bawling, you know, I sat down

742
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: before and they were just like get up, and I

743
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: was like I can't, Like I'm tired, Like I'm just tired,

744
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: you know. And we finally we just kind of got

745
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: it together. And then not long after that, you know,

746
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: she left us and it was just not the same

747
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: after that.

748
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

749
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: Game two, Yeah, Liberty is coming back. Y'all going back

750
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: and forth, y'all going back and forth. Uh, the shot

751
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: before the big shot, you and the Cooper on screen

752
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: of Rowe on the wing give it to you, you

753
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 4: come back, getting to you on the post, you turn

754
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: off the backboard. Then Weatherspoon hit this this heave over shot.

755
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: How did you feel like that game and like how

756
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: was that for that game like to take off because

757
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: the crowd was going crazy back and forth and then

758
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: it just you see her.

759
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: Now you see her face right now, so like this

760
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: face is if you guys knew the story. So we

761
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: are in a puddle, like I make that shot out

762
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: of a timeout. So we're going to our regular Me

763
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: and Cynthia like kick and roll like our two man game. Right,

764
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Cooper is like if I come off, like, you know,

765
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: she didn't even have to say set this screen. We

766
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: run and see like it's the play that we run

767
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: for years now, right, I'm like, I got you. I'm

768
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: gonna set the screen. You know, they play it a

769
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: certain way, so we knew it was gonna happen like

770
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: either one or two ways. So come off. She comes

771
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, it's not even a question, like

772
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: either you're gonna score or I'm gonna score. Like that's

773
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: just how we work, right, I say, before we leave

774
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: the huddle, Cynthia, who do you have? Cheryl? Who do

775
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: you have? We know who we have? Yeah, Jared running back,

776
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: So I'm running back and I'm like, dude, you were

777
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: supposed to pick her up, Like we weren't giving anybody

778
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: clean shots. So I literally you probably can't see it,

779
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: but I scream at Cynthia. But she's she's ready to

780
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: play to the crowd. You know, she's already Errol always hot,

781
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, like Cheryl wasn't even like that much of

782
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: a dramatic player. But she's jumping up and she's fist

783
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: pumping and all this kind of stuff. So I leave

784
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: my man to go back to try to like just

785
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: get in get away. But when I looked at Teresa's face,

786
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: I had before I turned around, I had a feeling

787
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: that it was going to go in because she looked

788
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: too composed. She looked and she looked like it felt good,

789
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when she says now,

790
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, when she talks about it, I knew that

791
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: it was going in. I feel it like I believe

792
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 2: her because I saw it, you know what I mean.

793
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: So I was pissed the floor. We go to the

794
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: locker room, and you know, I wasn't at that time.

795
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: Since I've been a coach, I've changed it a little bit.

796
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: But I didn't swear a lot. You know, you know

797
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't swear. But I go into my office and

798
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: I say a lot of cuss words. I actually could.

799
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: When I went into that locker room, I was letting

800
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: them real I'm like my my cousin, my my uncle

801
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: who's a custom machine, my dad. Like literally I pulled

802
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: from all of them like I was going crazy because

803
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: in my mind, you guys know, I told you I'm

804
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: callie girl. I had already packed up my truck. It

805
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: was on, you know, like an eighteen wheeler, already going

806
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: back to LA. I had already shipped my boxes like

807
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: I was home. So I was packing to wrap this

808
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: thing up and be home by Monday. You know, I

809
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: had to change my flight because I was so angry. Now,

810
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: of course I knew we were gonna come back and

811
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: like when the next day, but just the fact that

812
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: it didn't happen the way we were supposed to because

813
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: they were cheering before it was time to cheer, I

814
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: was pissed. I was pissed. I'm still pissed right now

815
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: because we won. I'm mad because I'm like, dude, stop

816
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: playing around, like, don't cheer before it's time to cheer,

817
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Like here, when is you know, the buzzer sounds when

818
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: the game is over. Anytime somebody brings it up they'll

819
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: be like, don't get her started.

820
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: That's just I just remember that game, watching that game

821
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: just all the time and just seeing that and it

822
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: was like it was so intense. Everybody too, and back

823
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: and forth they coming back and it was like, all right,

824
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: it's old with screen and roll with you and cool

825
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: is old where you had to jump. I'm like, yeah,

826
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: it's old what they had. Then she hit that and

827
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: it was like wow, it.

828
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Was They're like, this is literally this shot is everywhere

829
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: one of the greatest shots. And I'm like, but they

830
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: didn't win, you know, like.

831
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: They still show this shot like they won that championship.

832
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: Up what all the time. It is in everywhere. It's

833
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: at the Hall Fame, it's in the Nasmith Hall of Fame,

834
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: it is They show that shot every single year. There

835
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: is not a w NBA season that passed that there's

836
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: not a commercial or something like that, or a game

837
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: that happens that they don't show that shot.

838
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, how was it for you

839
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: when you when you when you had your when you

840
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: had your son and then had to go back to playing,

841
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: Like how how how hard and difficult was it for

842
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: you to to go through that that experience and didn't

843
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: have to get back in basketball shape.

844
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: It was Oh, it was tough because that that was

845
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: the only time in my life that I had ever

846
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: been out of shape. So like I was one of

847
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: those players that like even in the off season, I

848
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: still maintained a level of being in shape, so I

849
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: didn't have to like get back in shape. But when

850
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: I was having Dylan, I was like, I'm not doing anything,

851
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm not I'm not lifting and nothing, like I'm

852
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: not even walking, I'm not doing anything. So but you know,

853
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: he was really good to me. I didn't really gain

854
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: very much weight, like I when I was like five

855
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: months pregnant. Nounce story. Now very many people know this,

856
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: so I'm giving you guys, like some inside information. But

857
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was pregnant until I was

858
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: like a little past five months.

859
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, So my.

860
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: Body was functioning normally. I'm not gonna go into details.

861
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: You know, Like I wasn't pregnant, so I didn't gain anyway,

862
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: like I had gained probably like five pounds. But you

863
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: have to think that I played in the Olympics and

864
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: I was pregnant. I finished the WNBA season and I

865
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: was pregnant, not knowing that I was pregnant. So I went,

866
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, like three months, not you know, knowing almost

867
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: four months. And then after the season, I just wasn't

868
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: feeling good, like I just got I just wasn't feeling good.

869
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: My stomach was feeling really funny, so like I went

870
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: to the doctor. Dylan's dad and I went to the doctor,

871
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: and I was just like, my stomach like something is

872
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: not you know, I was drinking ginger ale thinking that

873
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: it was gonna I wasn't a soda drinker, so my

874
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: stomach just started going crazy. And then they do this

875
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: ultrasound and all this kind of stuff and they're like,

876
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: do you think you could be pregnant? I mean I

877
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: was like no, I mean just because but you know

878
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: I have done stuff that you caught. But no, I

879
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 2: shouldn't be because you know my girl.

880
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: You know.

881
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: It's like whoever. So they do this ultrasound, come back

882
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: and the doctor is like, I have good news and

883
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: bad news, like which one do you want to hear first?

884
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: And I'm like, give me the good news first, and

885
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: he goes, well, the baby's fine, and he goes on

886
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: such and such. So I'm like, the baby so then

887
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: he's looking at you know, like my face, like our faces,

888
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: and he's like, wait a minute, yes, So he just

889
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: starts freaking out because of course he's seeing the ultrasound

890
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: like weekends. He's like, it's a real life baby in there,

891
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: like you know, like when I talked about a little like,

892
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: it's a serious baby in there. But you guys, I

893
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: had only gained. I was six pounds over like my

894
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: actual like you know, playing weight. But because for me,

895
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: I just we just won the Olympics. We had this

896
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: long season, long year, like I was kind of like chilling.

897
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: So I wasn't like, you know, you know, no big deal.

898
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't a big deal to me. I could still

899
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: you know, wear my clothes and everything, so you know,

900
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't you know, I had no considering

901
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: that life was going on as normal. So I freaked out.

902
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: I panicked. Like we were in Miami, like I he said,

903
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't fly for three days. Like I went home

904
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: and you know, I called my mom and it just

905
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, we just kind of like start preparing. Like

906
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: I was in a fog for probably the next month

907
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: and a half, like two months, but you know, it

908
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: was just kind of one of those things where you know,

909
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: like you just make it happen, you know, you just

910
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: kind of go with it. You just do what you're

911
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: supposed to do, you know. And I had Dylan, I

912
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: came back, I played that year. I had him May twelfth.

913
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: I was back playing in the season by July. So

914
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. But like as soon as I

915
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: was ready to play, it was probably about you know,

916
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: I waited six weeks and then it was another six

917
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: weeks where I just grind it. Like every day I

918
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: was doing two a days just in the gym. Like

919
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: my guys are Melboyn Hunt and Brent Johnson, the man

920
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Mel and BJ in the gym with me, like just

921
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: working like we always did because it's what we did,

922
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, when I was Houston anyway.

923
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: But Plenty crap he was you know, they used to.

924
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Play with us, which is crazy.

925
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 3: I remember when we came and worked out for Houston.

926
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: He was in and he he was he was trying

927
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: to do a little thing. I guess you to work.

928
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, BJ, they get I mean they were players, but

929
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: that staff was good. They were like our practice guys.

930
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: So you know, you just kind of like make it happen.

931
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: Like for me, there was no doubt that I wasn't

932
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: going to play, and you know, my mom came, like

933
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: she was there, so she kind of helped me with

934
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Dylan in like those early months, so you know he

935
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to be out and things like that. And

936
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: then once he was older, old enough, you know, we

937
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: just we rolled. I went overseas, took him with me,

938
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: My mom came, and that's just how it was, you know,

939
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: from that point on until Dylan was old enough, like

940
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: we were a trio. So they went to road games,

941
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: they went wherever I went, and you know that was

942
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: kind of like my crew and we just made it happen.

943
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

944
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: How was it like you leaving Houston somewhere where you

945
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 4: can grow you made friends, is kind of home now

946
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: and you get traded and go back home to LA

947
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: to play for the women's professional team in your hometown.

948
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: I was that is spriend and to play with Lisa Leslie,

949
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: a young Candas Parker, like a squad over there for

950
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: you to come to and get that.

951
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: So well, I actually wasn't traded. Like what happened was

952
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: is that our franchise disbanded. So like that was the

953
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: year that the Houston Comments dissolved. So Les didn't want

954
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: to you know, have a w NBA team anymore. Like

955
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: the Rockets were kind of struggling and we were like

956
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: doing well, but the Rockets were their big business. So

957
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: you know, he was just like, he needs his entire

958
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: staff to focus on the Rockets. So he decided that

959
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: he didn't want to do the comments anymore. And then

960
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: he sold the team, and you know, he sold it

961
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: to a guy that was very advantageous but just could

962
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: not just uphold you know, the costs and everything to

963
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 2: run our team, and they couldn't find someone to buy

964
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: it in time, so the franchise basically folded. So I

965
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: became a free agent. And for me, I mean the

966
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: reason why I went back home was because my grandmother

967
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 2: was older. She was a big fan, and I wanted

968
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: to be able to kind of give her the opportunity

969
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: to see me play as much as I could. It

970
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: just brought her so much joy, and I wanted to

971
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: be home. You know, my grandmothers like they were my girls,

972
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: so I was really really really close to both of them,

973
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: So just being able to be home and go and

974
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: see her as much as I could, and you know,

975
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 2: Dylan be around her. I wanted Dylan to start school

976
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, so it was perfect timing. I was

977
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: even thinking about going home or retiring even before then.

978
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: I felt like him growing up in LA was important

979
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: just because of the diversity. And you know, when you

980
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: grew up in an environment where you're around all types

981
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: of people, like how you think, like how you judge

982
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: people in your perspective is totally different, you know, So

983
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: that was really important to me for him to be

984
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: in a very diverse environment. And where we lived in Houston,

985
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: it wasn't very diverse. Like where he would have gone

986
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: to school, he would have been a minority, and you know,

987
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: I didn't want that to be, you know, his experience.

988
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: So I mean I chose LA more so because of

989
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: personal reasons versus you know, the basketball reasons. But you know,

990
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: it was great to be able to play with, you know,

991
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: all stars and future Hall of famers, you know, because

992
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: I believe Candice will for sure can it'll be a

993
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer like is he called?

994
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

995
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

996
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: And how was Seattle?

997
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: Because I was in that Northwest and it rained three

998
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 4: hundred out of sixty three hundred and sixty five days.

999
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: So how did Seattle treat you during that summer? It's

1000
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 4: still rained, didn't it.

1001
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Listen, Seattle was amazing because I love where you Gonna

1002
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: take you.

1003
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I love Seattle. I love Seattle too, but I.

1004
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: Didn't know I didn't love Seattle in the winter. So

1005
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: we got out of the environment. The first year that

1006
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: I got that, I got there. Yeah, the first year

1007
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: that I got there, it was raining in May like

1008
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: every day. And for me being in Los Angeles, from

1009
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: growing up in Los Angeles and being in Houston, it's hot.

1010
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: You're wearing flops and tank tops and shorts. So I

1011
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: was just like, like, how do they deal with this?

1012
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: Like like it puts a cloud over you, like a gloom.

1013
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: So when they were like, you know, people suffered from

1014
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 2: depression in this environment, I got it because as soon

1015
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: as the sun came out, like even we changed, you know,

1016
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: and I literally they were laughing at me. But like

1017
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: I came to practice and my teammates were like you are,

1018
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: like you know, your vibe is different, your energy, And

1019
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I think I was depressed for

1020
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: a couple of months.

1021
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: And they were like, you are not depressed.

1022
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm like oh, seriously, like my whole household is different.

1023
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: It does liked something to you. But once the sun

1024
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: comes out in Seattle, it is beautiful. The people are beautiful.

1025
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: It was my time there, was my best professional experience

1026
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: as a whole. You know, we didn't win the way

1027
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: we want in Houston. We didn't have the same you know,

1028
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: type of players that we had in Los Angeles. But

1029
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: from just a team perspective, it was the first time

1030
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 2: that I had been on the team where I had

1031
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: a relationship with everybody. Like everybody was cool, Like we

1032
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: could all like go out, you know and hang out

1033
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: and after a game, like I could eat with, you know,

1034
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: go out to dinner with any combination of the players

1035
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: on my team. And not that I didn't like, you know,

1036
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: the players on my other team, because I had great teammates,

1037
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: it was just like we didn't have the same vibe,

1038
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and like, well, you know,

1039
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: you hang out with people that are kind of like

1040
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: you or you know, you have this connectivity or chemistry.

1041
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: But you know that's why. They were just great people

1042
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: and just easy going and we did stuff together all

1043
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: the time. So me going to Seattle, it was tough

1044
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: to leave home, but me leaving making the decision to

1045
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: leave because they wanted me to stay in LA and

1046
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: I thought that I was going to retire there, but

1047
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: Seattle worked out the best. It was a great way

1048
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: to leave the game.

1049
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me this. You spoke on how when you

1050
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: first was going to be the you know, the number

1051
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: one overall WNBA pick, and they was trying to throw

1052
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: peanuts at you basically right, and you walked out of

1053
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: the office and was like, I'm good. Tell me what

1054
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: you think about the progress being made and the new

1055
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: CBA and you know some of the upgrades theyre trying

1056
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: to situate with the with the WNBA, and I mean,

1057
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: it's still a lot of work to be done, but

1058
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: just with the work that they have achieved now, like,

1059
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: how do you feel about, you know, the process and

1060
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: how it's played out so far.

1061
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: I think that that was a great move and everybody

1062
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: behind that did an incredible job. It has it has legitimized,

1063
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: you know, the WNBA in a way that when you

1064
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: think about the money that the women are able to receive,

1065
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: it already makes them a professional without any question. You know,

1066
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: when you know people look at your profession and have

1067
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: a level of respect you know about it, but sometimes

1068
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: based on the amount of money you make, and it

1069
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean like how good your job, how good

1070
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: you are at your job, but they consider you a professional,

1071
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, by you know what your paycheck looks like.

1072
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: And I think that not only do they deserve it,

1073
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: but their gains the product should be supported in that

1074
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: way like they have we have earned it. So I

1075
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: was excited. I'm still excited about where they are now

1076
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: in the possible progress and just kind of moveing from

1077
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: there like it's legitimate now like it was, but it

1078
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: was cute, you know, now it's it's respectable.

1079
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1080
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: Did you ever think starting in this league that you

1081
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: would lead the WNBA and scorn before you retire.

1082
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: No, not at all, Like I didn't even think like that.

1083
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: So you know when people are like, how do you

1084
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: feel about that? Like I don't feel any way. I

1085
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: know it sounds crazy, but I'm not surprised, you know,

1086
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you know how much work did I

1087
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: put in? Like I'm not surprised at Like, you know,

1088
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: when I shot the ball, it went in like I

1089
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: was in there all day long, like shot shot. So

1090
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: for me, it's like it's supposed to go in. Like

1091
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: my reaction more so would be when I didn't make shots.

1092
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: I was more emotional at that just from the perspective

1093
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: of like records and accolades and stuff like that. I

1094
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: wanted to win. I had no idea how many points

1095
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: that I scored, and it didn't become a thing until

1096
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: they started talking about it. You know, I was in

1097
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: La so I knew that Lisa was, but I didn't

1098
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: know where I was, you know, in comparison, you know,

1099
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: to her. So when it started happening, you know, you know,

1100
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: people wanted like this reaction, and I'm like, okay, like

1101
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: it's cool, Like I need to get these points so

1102
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: that it's over so we can start focusing back, you know,

1103
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: on the game. And then you know, it became a

1104
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: thing again because the person that actually surpassed me was

1105
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: Diana Tarassi, you know, and we're all California girls, you know,

1106
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: so it's just a really dope, you know kind of connection.

1107
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Like first it was Lisa, and then it was myself

1108
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: and now Diana, and you know, Diana is my girl.

1109
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: You know, if I hadn't a franchise, then you know,

1110
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: she's she's gonna be my pick one A or one B.

1111
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: It's like our rock was Diana because she is a

1112
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: dog and she's just like a girl after my own heart,

1113
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: like I love you. So I was totally excited for her,

1114
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: but you know, for me, it's kind of you know,

1115
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: just part of the course. It happens if you're you're

1116
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: focused enough, you work hard enough, and you're there long enough.

1117
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: Because I was there for a long time.

1118
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I when I was younger, you know, when

1119
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: a w NBA came out, you know, me and my mom,

1120
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 4: she really deep.

1121
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 1: She was a baseball player.

1122
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 4: She really deep into women's basketball and basketball because she's

1123
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 4: supported me and so far far. So you know, when

1124
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: a w NBA came out, were picking our teams, so

1125
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 4: her team was the comments and she used to be like,

1126
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: my girl with the lipstick you on TV? So are

1127
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 4: you always doing that and watching? What made you wear

1128
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 4: the lipstick.

1129
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: In the game and make it iconic the way you

1130
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: make it iconic.

1131
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: Guys, it's so funny because like people will think, you know,

1132
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: and like you're in the league like with women, so

1133
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: like of course girls stuff is going to happen, and

1134
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: like people would assume that I was wearing the lipstick

1135
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: because I was trying to be cute, and I'm like,

1136
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Like me

1137
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: wearing the lipsticks started when I was at USC. So

1138
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: again I told you guys, I was a nerd, So

1139
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: this is a very like nerd thing. But I you know,

1140
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: in my freshman year, in my first and second semester,

1141
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I had twenty two and twenty units, which is a

1142
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: crazy amount. The average is twelve, you know, like you

1143
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: could be eligible if you have twelve, right, So I

1144
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: had twenty and twenty two. So well, twenty two is

1145
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: the first and twenty and the second because I was

1146
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 2: just like four years that's it. Remember, I had a plan,

1147
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 2: like I'm going to law school, Like I can't stay

1148
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: here longer than I'm supposed to. So I was rushing

1149
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: to our second exhibition game. So in the first exhibition game,

1150
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: I played okay, but I didn't play to my standards.

1151
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: So our second exhibition game we played, and I'm rushing,

1152
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: Like I get to the gym, everybody's already there, like

1153
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: some people are out there shooting already. So I get,

1154
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm putting my stuff on or whatever. I

1155
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: forgot to actually take off my lipstick and we go

1156
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: into the game and I can't remember what teammate it was,

1157
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: but when I was like, you know, you still have

1158
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 2: your lipstick on, so I'm just like, it's too late now,

1159
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm like little OCD. So I wasn't

1160
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: going to take it off out there because it's a

1161
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: Matt lipstick, so some might still be on or not.

1162
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: So I just left it off, and y'all, I was balled.

1163
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: Like I killed in that game.

1164
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: So like after the game, one of my teammates was like, dude,

1165
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: like it must have been the lipstick. Like so I'm

1166
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: like whatever, because you know, I'm not superstitious or just whatever.

1167
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: But of course in my mind, I was like, ever,

1168
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: so you're getting a kid, you know, I'm like eighteen

1169
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: years old. I'm like, this is this is going to

1170
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: just be a part of my uniform. So from that

1171
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: moment on, like I wore it.

1172
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: What color was it was there always one color? Are

1173
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: you switched up the colors here?

1174
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: No? So initially it was I don't know, it was

1175
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: kind of like a cheap brand. You guys know who

1176
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: Maya Campbell was. She was actress that was yes in

1177
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: the house So one of my college girlfriends was good

1178
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: friends with Maya because Maya's mom, bb Moore Campbell was

1179
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: an Arthur and my college girlfriend her mom was a

1180
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: professor at USC, so they kind of knew each other

1181
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: and ran the same circles. So we were just out.

1182
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: We went to the Beverly Center or something crazy like that,

1183
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: and Maya was like, what lipstick is that? That's like

1184
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: my color? She was like, is that Mac? And I

1185
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: was like, girl, no, like I'm broken like in college.

1186
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: She was like, no, you have to wear Mac like

1187
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: it's the best whatever. So we go into the Max

1188
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: Store in the Beverly Center and you know, I get

1189
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: me you know, the little pencil whatever, and it became

1190
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: that so you know, from Mayah Campbell. Then I wouldn't

1191
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: be I wouldn't wear I wouldn't be wearing that. But

1192
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: it was Diva lips. The color was Diva. It's like

1193
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: a Matt lets stick by Mac.

1194
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: That's dope.

1195
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: So so at what point did you did you feel

1196
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: or did you know like, hey, I could be a coach,

1197
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: or or when did you get a bit by the

1198
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: coaching bug and think that this is something that I

1199
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,959
Speaker 3: have a passion for to do.

1200
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely did not. Like every single one of my

1201
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: friends were like, dude, how did you become a coach?

1202
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: Because for me, it was like I would never ever

1203
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: ever coach when I was a player. Like all of

1204
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: my coaches be like, Tina, you would be an amazing coach,

1205
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, mm hmm, you know, I see you guys,

1206
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: because you know you guys know like your coaches like

1207
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: they are stressed out, you know, like they don't sleep,

1208
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: and I'm already like not. I was already not like

1209
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: a good sleeper. So I was just kind of like

1210
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't want those kind of problems in my life

1211
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: and how they age, you know, so like coaches and

1212
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: ass you know, from that stress. I was just like

1213
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: mm mmm mm mmm. So I retired. Me and Dylan,

1214
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: we were just at home. We were like killing, we

1215
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: were traveling, we were you know, going to LA he

1216
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: was still being homeschooled at the time, and we were

1217
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: just kind of like living our best lives. And the

1218
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: head coach at Texas had an open shows she called me.

1219
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: The reason why she called me is because I started

1220
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: mentoring like this group of girls or a couple kids,

1221
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: like in the Houston area. Because one of my friends

1222
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: was a trainer, so he was like, I have these

1223
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: kids and they're like really good tea. Can you just

1224
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: come by and just talk to them? So you know

1225
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: I did, and you know, and just kind of they

1226
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: were like great kids. So it went from me just

1227
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: kind of mentoring them because you know, he was the

1228
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 2: trainer to me actually being in a gym with them

1229
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: and just showing them like just kind of how to

1230
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: like navigate through this game and just just little stuff

1231
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: like here and there, perfecting their game. And you know,

1232
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: one of the kids actually went to Texas, so she

1233
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: was she became a McDonald All American, both of them were,

1234
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: and she went to Texas. So the coach asked her parents, like,

1235
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: what's going on with Jordan, Like how like she's improved,

1236
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, like so fast. You know, she's using her

1237
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: left hand and just like little things. So the mom

1238
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: is like, oh, she's been working out with Tina Thompson.

1239
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: So the coach is like Tina Thompson, Like how is she?

1240
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: You know with Tina Thompson. So I guess they kind

1241
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: of discussed to some extent. I don't know. I wasn't there,

1242
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: so she called me, I'm assuming that she was calling

1243
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: me to talk about Jordan. So she did. She talked about,

1244
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, the kid, and then she said, you know,

1245
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: we have a position you know here, like on our staff.

1246
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: So she's kind of telling me about it. And I'm

1247
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: kind of like mm hmm, like why is she telling

1248
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: me this? And so she goes, what do you think?

1249
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: So I go, oh, like, I have like tons of

1250
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: like teammates that like want to get into coaching or whatever,

1251
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: so I can for sure like find somebody, you know,

1252
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: because I did not think at any point that she

1253
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: was offering me the job. So I said that, and

1254
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: then she was kind of like quiet. So I'm like hello,

1255
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: because I was in my truck like and we were

1256
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: on bluetooth, and she was like, oh, no, like I

1257
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: was offering you the job. And I just bust out laughing,

1258
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: like I because just the shock of it or whatever,

1259
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: and she she was kind of quiet again, and I

1260
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: just was like, Okay, she didn't it was funny, So

1261
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: I go, I really appreciate that, but you know, no,

1262
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 2: like I'm newly retired and you know, I'm just not

1263
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: interested in coaching. And she just wouldn't stop calling me,

1264
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: and I just said, like man, we'll try it.

1265
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1266
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: And then I got there hated it like it was

1267
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: the worst, like the just the time, like in the office,

1268
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: it was so grueling. But I loved the kids and

1269
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: had a connection with them and such. In a very

1270
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: short period of time, they grew in ways that like

1271
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: they hadn't grown before. So that kind of that bit

1272
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: me and Travis Mays, who was the associate head coach

1273
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: at the time. Travis, he played in the league and

1274
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: he went to Texas, went to Texas, he got a

1275
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: head coaching job. So the kids were distraught and they

1276
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: look at me and they're like, coach t you can't leave,

1277
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: Please don't leave.

1278
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1279
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: They're crying, And in my head I'm thinking, like, Travis,

1280
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: why didn't you tell me? Because I'm leaving to kids,

1281
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: like you know, it's like this is too much, you know,

1282
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: like I this is not It was literally more time

1283
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: consuming than when I was a professional athlete, you know,

1284
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: when I was a player. This is more than kind

1285
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: of eye bargained for. But Amani when I before I

1286
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 2: got there, she was she had already planned to go

1287
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: to business school and she had a job lined up.

1288
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: This kid is six foot six and she's an athlete.

1289
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: She didn't even want to go to the WNBA. She

1290
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: was that off basketball. So I'm like, are you kidding me?

1291
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: Like you're six foot six, Like how many people looking

1292
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: like you do you see walking around? You can make

1293
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: a whole career out of this, Like how do you

1294
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: just say I don't want to do it. She's just like,

1295
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm tired of basketball. My experience is this Because she's

1296
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: really really smart, I'm just you know, I'm going to

1297
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: just dive into other you know, you know, ventures and experiences,

1298
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, in different aspects of my life. I'm like, girl, please,

1299
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 2: you're going to the WNBA. And she was like, you

1300
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: think I can go to the WNBA. I was, look,

1301
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 2: follow me, We're going to get you there. Commit to

1302
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 2: this process. We got about six months and I'm telling you, yeah,

1303
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: you'll go. You'll be a lottery pick. She's like what,

1304
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, you'll be a lottery pick. She went ten. So,

1305
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, it kind of worked out, and then after

1306
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: that it just changed just kind of how the kids

1307
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: like looked at the game and what was like possible

1308
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: for them and just being able to do that and

1309
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, change their lives or give them a certain

1310
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: kind of like hope that they didn't have before. I

1311
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: was like, I don't like this in the office side

1312
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: of it, but like I love these kids, and you know,

1313
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: it would be a blessing to kind of be able

1314
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: to pour into them. But the goal then was I

1315
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: need to run my own show because I here, I

1316
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: am head coaching now and you know, I coach my

1317
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: kids the way I played, and you know, we have

1318
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: fun although we work or you know what's off, you know,

1319
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 2: and I'm growing their person, you know, not just their talent.

1320
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: And it's fun. A lot of work, but it's fun.

1321
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 3: How do you feel about like lately in college it's

1322
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: been a lot of a lot more women being highed

1323
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: and also a lot more women you know, of color.

1324
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that you, like I told

1325
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: Jerry stackhou Sis the other day that I love the

1326
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: fact that you as a as a formal player, played

1327
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: seventeen years, really did it at every level one and

1328
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: you know, you got you got things in your mind

1329
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 3: and that you experienced as a player. That's some normal

1330
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 3: coaches that didn't play the game at this high level

1331
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: you can relate in a different way. So I love

1332
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 3: seeing all of our former players, women and men get

1333
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: back in the game at college and NBA levels and

1334
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: be able to you know, really, like you say, really

1335
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 3: pouring to them. You could love on them, you could

1336
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: be hard on them, and you know all the different

1337
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: things because you've been in those seats. So I salute that.

1338
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: But how do you feel about the uptick of all

1339
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 3: of the higher in coaching.

1340
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 2: I think that it's amazing. I think that it's necessary

1341
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: to have more coaches of color in leadership, like in

1342
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: this game, like we're coaching us, you know what I mean?

1343
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: Like why not? You know, why is there not? But

1344
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, I think with anything in the world, like

1345
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: evolution and things like, have to happen a certain way

1346
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: in order for us to get to a certain point.

1347
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 2: I love what Dawn Staley is doing over at South

1348
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: Carolina in her career. She's in a position of leadership

1349
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,520
Speaker 2: and she's setting a standard which I believe will continue

1350
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: to create opportunities. I would urge more former players to

1351
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: get into coaching. I know that it's a huge change,

1352
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: like in lifestyle, but what you have to offer is amazing.

1353
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: It is one thing to be able to teach someone

1354
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: how to do something, but in teaching them how to

1355
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: do something, teaching it from a perspective of I know

1356
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: this works because I did it, and I did it well.

1357
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: So I'm not teaching you something that I saw. I'm

1358
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: teaching you something that I did.

1359
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: I got one more question, what did it mean to

1360
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: you to be honored in the Hall of Fame?

1361
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: Probably might cry again. This is one of those moments

1362
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: where it's like, never, ever, ever, ever in my life

1363
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: have I ever said, you know, I want to be

1364
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: in the Nysmith Hall of Fame. Like it's just not

1365
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: something that you say, Like I'm not even the person

1366
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: that says I want to be an MVP or I

1367
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: want to be an All Star, Like I don't talk

1368
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: like that. Like the only thing that I wanted to

1369
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: be is I wanted to be an Olympian. And then

1370
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: it was like I want to be the best player

1371
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: that I can be, So that was my goal, like

1372
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,919
Speaker 2: being the best like version of myself. So when that happened,

1373
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 2: I was like, what, you know, so you know my circle,

1374
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: you know, they're like te like, what are you talking about?

1375
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: Like this is the this is how it's supposed to be, dude,

1376
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking.

1377
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm like it's time.

1378
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Careen is in the Hall of Fame. Magic is my guy,

1379
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: Magic in the Hall of Fame. And then I'm just

1380
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: going down. I'm like the big Oh, it's in there.

1381
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: George Bourbon is my guy I love. So I'm like there,

1382
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: like you know, you're just going so in my head,

1383
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, these are the people. I'm like,

1384
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: Alex English. I loved Alex English when I was a kid,

1385
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: you know. For me, it's just like, come on, like

1386
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: this just doesn't make sense to me because I'm on

1387
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: the outside kind of looking in at these guys. I've

1388
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 2: watched them, you know, all my career, Like I'm amazed

1389
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: at you know, who they are and what they've done.

1390
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking like, even though I was a showtime

1391
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: Laker fan, I'm like Larry Bird was cold, you.

1392
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Know, that team.

1393
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 2: So it's just like I couldn't stand him, but I

1394
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: respected him, you know. And then it's like Michael. You

1395
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: just think, so I'm gonna be hanging out with Michael

1396
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: Jordan in the Hall of Fame. So that's how my

1397
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: brain is just like going, like it's just so overwhelming.

1398
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: So even today it has all happened. I've dressed up,

1399
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 2: I've done the speech, my family was there. I'm still like,

1400
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, I can't. Yeah, it's overwhelming and it's

1401
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 2: gonna take me time, Like it's gonna take me because

1402
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: it's I just I'm so grateful. And you know, when

1403
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, and I guess it makes sense,

1404
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: but you know, I didn't look at numbers. I looked

1405
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: at ends, you know what I mean. I just at

1406
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I always want to win

1407
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is that I'm doing. You know, I want

1408
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 2: to win. I want to win it being the best mom.

1409
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: I want to win it being like everything that I do,

1410
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: I want to perfect it in a way that's something

1411
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: you know, kind of for amazing like comes out of it.

1412
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: So you know, that's kind of like, you know, my

1413
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: beautiful moment like at the end of it. But it's

1414
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: still like, are you serious? I believe that this is Yeah,

1415
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: it's just crazy, So I am. I'm overwhelmed.

1416
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 3: All right. Man, that's been a rap man. This was

1417
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: super super dope, legendary Hall of Fame status, you know

1418
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And she came in here with the

1419
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 3: swaggy hat. We got to give you the award for

1420
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: the Swaggy its appearance on the show thus far that

1421
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: had his fly. This was Tina Thompson, legendary Hall of

1422
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 3: Fame and now head coach of the University of Virginia.

1423
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: Appreciate you for pulling up, Tina. This is special to us.

1424
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, I appreciate you having me. I think this

1425
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: is one of the best interviews that I've had ever.

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