00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you. Hear I thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Wineger. It's the beginning of the podcast. We're in the backyard. It's twenty twenty four as you're listening to this, twenty twenty four. It's an even year. There's probably going to be some Olympics happening. I don't know if it's summer or winter. I'm looking at on release. I don't want an answer on Elise. Good luck to all Olympic athletes if you're performing or competing this year. And let's install try to remain calm. I'm here to protect you. Let's get into the podcast. I think today's guest is so funny. Oh my god, I've led myself into a panic thinking about twenty twenty four and I'm breathing. It's Fumi aping, Hello, FOOMI. 00:01:34 Speaker 2: Welcome to. I said no gifts. Thank you for having me. Yeah. 00:01:36 Speaker 4: I was also when you said twenty twenty four, it's a new year. I'm already panicking. 00:01:41 Speaker 3: I know I said new year, and I just I shouldn't have jumped off a. 00:01:44 Speaker 4: Collect You should really shouldn't have. You shouldn't dead to people. That's really messed up, man. 00:01:49 Speaker 2: But it is the beginning of the year. Yeah, is it the Olympic's gonna be? Do you have any idea? 00:01:55 Speaker 4: I might be mixed up with the World Cup, but something is happening in La because I know there were working on some train situation here. 00:02:02 Speaker 3: It cannot no, I'm pretty sure. If it's La Olympics this year, then I'm I don't know what I'm gonna do with it. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: Might be the World, it's not. Maybe it's not next year. I don't know. Something is happening in La so soon. I don't know. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Okay, I think Olympics La or later in the decade on a lease, maybe eight. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: So we can remain calm about that. Okay, maybe it is the world. Let's make a. 00:02:26 Speaker 3: Guess about what type of Olympics are happening this year. I'm going to guess. I'm trying to even picture the last ones that happened. I'm hoping for winter. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: I think when yeah, that'll be nice on a leash's shaking their head. But we're getting summer. We're getting summer. That's summer. That's all right, that's okay. 00:02:43 Speaker 3: Where where do you think summer could possibly be taking place this year? 00:02:46 Speaker 2: It's not in la Oh gosh? What was it? Can I get her? What was the last city? Last city? As if that's gonna help. I always want to say Toronto, that's a nice neutral city. Tokyo, Tokyo. Funny. How was the COVID one? Remember? Wait, they actually do it during they did it? They did it in twenty twenty one, that's right. It was really controversial because of COVID. 00:03:09 Speaker 4: Why they were like, well, we can't not do this because we spent like a billion dollars from pairing the city. 00:03:14 Speaker 2: We wasted the country's money. Wow. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: So that was twenty twenty one. Wow, And I just missed them entirely. What was I doing with my. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: I think we were all not dying, no, trying not to die. Wow. 00:03:25 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. So then what's happening this year? 00:03:28 Speaker 2: On Elis? Were they doing them this year? Paris? Paris romantic? 00:03:32 Speaker 3: I love that summer in Paris. Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't care about the Summer Olympics. 00:03:37 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we don't. We're not sports guys. What are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah? 00:03:41 Speaker 4: That was us talking about sports five minutes we ended on Paris is lovely. 00:03:45 Speaker 3: Let's move on the shopping, the literature. No, I'm more of a Winter Olympics person. If I'm gonna watch an Olympics, you've got a lot more artistry during the summer Winter Olympics from yeah, you've got you know, people are doing tricks, people are leaping through the air. There's not nearly as much leaping during summer on. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: That's a great point. There's almost very little tricks and something. Yeah, I'm trying to think, do they have skateboarding now? But I don't even know if that's I think they do? Is that summer? 00:04:15 Speaker 3: That's that's gotta be summer, although that could easily be a winter indoor sports. 00:04:19 Speaker 5: Sorry, I have to help you out, guys, gymnastics would like to have a conversation with my apologies to gymnasts, but yeh, skateboarding did is now part of the OHS? 00:04:30 Speaker 2: Interesting? 00:04:31 Speaker 3: Well, you know what gymnastics should be a winter Olympics because it's indoors. What's the point you want to be indoors? Yeah, if they want to my attention move at outdoors for the summer Olympics, to be leaping through the air outdoors, that's important interesting, okay, gymnastics, But otherwise summer there's not a lot going on for me. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: It's more just it's a little more basic. Right. It's like a basketball basketball, It's just. 00:04:54 Speaker 3: Literally sports sports, right, that take place all the time, whereas these other things. It's like, how often do you get to see somebody on ice skates? 00:05:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, doing tricks? 00:05:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there are probably opportunities, but I'm not saying do you do any sort of sports? 00:05:12 Speaker 4: Not presently. I do hike for exercise, okay, sure, but I don't like it. I would never go hiking with a friend. It's a solo activity for me. 00:05:23 Speaker 2: Always solo. It's a punishment you're gonna end up dead. What do you mean solo hiking? 00:05:28 Speaker 3: You've got to have I hope you're at least telling someone you're leaving. 00:05:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I live with my partner. I say, hey, I'm going hiking, so going like months on it like I'm not doing that Palachian trail. 00:05:39 Speaker 3: It's not the Reese Witherspoon thing. What was that you hiked all over California? 00:05:44 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. And then Laura Dern was her mom for some reason. Oh the movie the movie, Oh yes, yes, where are you hiking? I'm just going to run in. Okay, this is your problem. Where are you from? A complicated question. I was born in Japan. 00:06:02 Speaker 4: Oh I grew up in Ohio, Okay, So I usually just stam from Ohio, Okay, because I spent my childhood there. 00:06:08 Speaker 2: Ohio doesn't strike me as a hiking It's flat. It's flat as right. Yep. We have ski resorts and stuff, but it's all man made hills. 00:06:15 Speaker 3: So okay, let's just put a pin in this for one second. Because last night I was talking to someone from Michigan and I said, is there any skiing in Michigan? And he said, yes, but the ski hills are made on old landfills. Oh I am skiing down garbage. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: I could I believe that. I didn't even question, well, people say man made. I didn't even question the process. I was just like, oh, sure he. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: Was made, bad man. That's not for me. You know, you're right. 00:06:44 Speaker 4: It's not like somebody brought a bunch of dirt and made a mountain Like I'm sure there was already a landfill there, right. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: That makes so much You're just shattering my childhood. I couldn't believe that trash. 00:06:54 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I don't know. That makes me think, like those islands of trash in the ocean, we should be turning those into like little paradises as well. 00:07:02 Speaker 4: Make that kind of a fun spot to be. I think, I don't know if this is actually true or not. I think Tokyo Disneyland is also made on trash or something. Japan doesn't have enough land, so they made a little island with like shit like trash, and I think it's all built on top of that. 00:07:21 Speaker 2: I believe. 00:07:21 Speaker 3: I believe put it past Disney, yeah, I And speaking of islands in Japan, I just heard that Japan just got a new island. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: Oh the volcano. I saw that on the news. This is crazy, is so exciting. 00:07:32 Speaker 3: I mean the United States is that have exciting things like that happening. Suddenly you just get a new island. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. I forgot that the earth could just like make new land something. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: Right, it's not like over Yeah, but yeah, you rarely hear about a new island dropping. 00:07:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know much about it. Just saw, I mean, doesn't look very inhabitable. It's very black right now. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, no no plants, right, maybe a couple of thousand years trip. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: To home depot some nice pots. Yeah yeah, yeahthing like that. Okay, back to hiking. You didn't hike in Ohio and now you're in run in Canyon. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: Ye. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: My problem with a lot of la la hiking is it's dusty. People go to these places that are essentially just dust piles. You walk away with dusty shoes and you barely see anything interesting. 00:08:14 Speaker 4: Well, this is the thing I don't see. Like if I was really into hiking, I might go explore Malibu or something. But I don't like it. So the dusty is fine. I want to actually hate it because it's I don't wanna to me. It's just like I don't play sports, right and I don't know the exercise. But I'm getting older, so I need to do something for my body. So the more I despise it, the better. 00:08:37 Speaker 2: And it's just habit, and I do that. I don't know if you've been to running. There's two paths. 00:08:42 Speaker 4: There's the normal one where it's just gravel or cement, and then there's a secret path that's like harder, and that one is dusty but also snaky. There's a lot of snakes, so I've seen a couple of snakes like mess around with dogs. 00:08:58 Speaker 2: Oh oh, very very sad, scary. But the dogs are really it's a dog's fault. They're like, you know what I mean. The snake is doing its own thing and the dog is curious. But the dogs aren't being attacked by snakes. I've seen like one bite it, but like they're not venomous. They're like kind of small. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah I do that one. Wow. 00:09:18 Speaker 3: Well, this feels like a bad plan on your part to make the healthy thing in your life horrible. 00:09:24 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's like, you know, I don't think a gym should be fun, right, I don't know. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Well, actually I guess that's kind of my situation. When I go to the gym, it's agony exactly. I don't even know how, Like I can't even wrap my head around how it would be fun, right. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: And I also think I'm a big believer in like I think humans were supposed to feel and experience like the whole spectrum of things. And when I see a snake on run in canyon, I cannot say. 00:09:52 Speaker 2: I lived in New York City for thirteen years. 00:09:54 Speaker 4: I've never felt that way in my life, right, just like the pure like human biology, right, just like. 00:10:01 Speaker 2: Your ancestors fear of snakes. 00:10:04 Speaker 4: Study about how like humans are supposed to be scared of certain animals because it's dangerous or whatever. Its right, and like you don't really see snakes in New York City, So it is just nice to feel that. It's like a muscle that my body hasn't used in like over thirty years. So I don't know, I just from that from that point of view, I do like just letting my body experience all of it, you know. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, do you make a very good point. 00:10:24 Speaker 3: I've never thought about that with New York You're not going to run into a snake on the street. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: And like, yes, you see like a mouse or something. I mean when I see a rat there, my entire body shuts down. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: It's my number one fear associating truly, a spirit leaves enters another realm. Yeah, So that for me is that I guess your snake. 00:10:44 Speaker 4: Sure, but I think so I've seen rats and snakes. With rats, it's more of like a gross with snake. Something interesting happens when you because your survival instincts kick and you're like, I have to survive the snake. Oh so it's not just it's not gross, it's like I need to save my family. Yes, and that's different from rats. So it's a different flavor. It's like a coffee, different flavor. 00:11:09 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 00:11:09 Speaker 3: Interesting, it's got kind of a berry flavor, chocol Ethiopian. Well, I mean, I fully disagree on My entire survival instinct kicks in in a in the most insane way when I see a rature disease, the teeth, the brain. That's true, they are They're an evil creature. Yeah, but I just and this is another horrifying fact. My boyfriend just told me La now has more rats than New York because of the rats are Excuse me, have you heard. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: About the rats are? 00:11:41 Speaker 3: No, this woman has been hired to eliminate rats in New Yorky. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Apparently she's doing a killer job. Oh wait, I think I've like read about this on a Vice article. Probably doing just rat setting up traps. She's out thinking the rats. I love she's a ar like she's from Russia. She's really I think she's really loving that title. Wow to be the rats are? Can we hire her? Bring her in? 00:12:05 Speaker 3: She should be like offering her services to every Absolutely. I will say this as far as rats and La go, I have had a rat run across my foot in La. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: In La, that's worse. It's worse. Can you imagine? 00:12:16 Speaker 4: Because in New York you see it because the sidewalks are so small and it hides into like a garbage thing, So you see it for like two seconds. By La, it like steps on your body and then you see it run away for like fifteen Miles's. 00:12:28 Speaker 3: Right, you just see like get on a bush, ye living to the beach. And there's also the possibility of them being in a palm tree. Yeah, now I heard they live underneath the palm tree. That's why I heard underneath. Yeah, what are you talking about? 00:12:40 Speaker 2: I heard they live like because rats live underground, so they live by the roots and stuff. But then somebody was like, I forget what comedians said this, but they were like, oh, that's such a perfect analogy for La. It's like beautiful, right of course on top, but then let's do lunch on top and then talking shit about you beneath. Yeah yeah, yeah, well either way, like a rat falling from a tree onto my head, a rat coming out from a palm tree, I just the animal is something I can't do. Yeah, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: Thank you for apologizing for the rodent, for the city's Have you ever had a rat in your apartment or house? 00:13:20 Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, I might be agnal for a seconis, but do people have rats or they have mice. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: I've had mice. Oh right, not If I had rats, I would move out of That's crazy that you make a really good point. 00:13:32 Speaker 4: I mean that's the size of an arm, right, like a rat at least at least right. So, I mean I've seen when you live on the first floor the ground floor in New York City, it's pretty common, especially in the winter. I lived in Cara Gardens for like a couple of years. I had a couple of mice there, but our place was so I lived on a brownstone and it was like really nice and right it was. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: Cold, and I was like get in here, you know what. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: I mean, like Carl Gardens makes sense as a mouse neighborhood. To me, it's very cute, and but the mice are so small. I don't know, I didn't have any issues with it. 00:14:00 Speaker 4: I've heard nightmare stories and people are like, oh, they're chewing through our TV cables and that, Like I've heard stuff like that that didn't really happen. I think they were just sort of like cold, right, So it's kind of like the intention was cute and so it was like sort of forgivable. It wasn't like advocate. It wasn't like gross to me. It wasn't like an infestation, but a rat. I mean, that's that's crazy. 00:14:19 Speaker 3: If you ever but it has to happen in New York all the time. They're everywhere, They're. 00:14:24 Speaker 2: In the walls. You have a rat, like. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: I know, it's like having a badger or something. I mean, it's gonna like hurt you if you get bit by. That's you know. 00:14:32 Speaker 2: Those teeth are always growing, they are, isn't that true? Yeah? 00:14:36 Speaker 3: I feel like if they don't have something to chew on, the teeth just keep growing. 00:14:39 Speaker 2: Is that is it like a shark kind of thing? Do sharks have teeth? I thought sharks were like if you if a shark, sorry, if a shark tooth falls out, they grew another one. You're saying they have differ ending teeth. So you're saying with rats, it's just like growing and eventually like the teeth hit the ground and it's like lifting their body up in the air. It's like a jack under a car. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: I assume, Oh my god, yeah, I would. It would take years of therapy to get rid of that. That's great. I didn't even thought about. 00:15:07 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm being ignorant. I don't think. I feel like my friends are not having rats in their apartments. Purpose purposeful ignorance on your part. Yeah, you have rats all over your place. Maybe maybe they were probably cleaning the floors for you. Bro, that's crazy. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm just stating reality. I've had close encounters with rats in New York, very close to my living spaces, not in you know. 00:15:27 Speaker 4: They call like the computer mouse a mouse because it's like the size of a mouse. That's I even think that's pretty big. But I would say a rat is easily three times as big of a computer, just imagually. 00:15:36 Speaker 2: That's crazy. There should be a computer rat. That's not a paronomic you know, it goes to your elbow. It's like a full glove almost. Yeah, a computer mouse, computer rat. Somebody must have thought of that. But there were people who've had rats in there. 00:15:52 Speaker 3: No, and if I did, I would cut them out of my life because they're like they're leading the situation that there is. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: Maybe your listeners have rats. I mean that's to me. I don't think that's a thing, but maybe I'm wrong. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: Listener, if you have rats, I don't know, hit pause and find another podcast on subscribe, immediately pushing you away from the podcast. Get out, Get out. Okay, well, what was the most exciting thing that you did in twenty twenty three? Any fun things happen? 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, most exciting thing? You want? Like an honest, like authentic, cute answer? You want? I want you to look in my eyes and lie to me. No, you can whatever, you know, Like this is an authentic answer. Okay. 00:16:38 Speaker 4: You know, the writer's strike was happening, so like a lot of us started looking for other ways to make money and seeing what else we could do with our common I'm a comedian, by the way. I don't know if you guys knew that, and so I started like touring a little bit on my own. Sure, stand up, I've never done that before, right, And like you know, like I have a team, but like I think that and this is not a throwing shade at them, but I truly feel like, you know, it's not really worth their time to like plan a whole thing for me unless I have like so many more followers and stuff like that, right exactly, So like I can only do it in major cities, but I just sort of like hit up, I found the whatever Union Hall is in that city, I don't know if you know Union Hall and around like one hundred cap and I just did I started doing it on my own. I went to like Seattle, Toronto, Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and I just I got to like I did it on my own, got to meet like my fans Instagram and like random podcasting things I've done in the past. I'm like, that was just like such a cool experience that lovely. Yeah, it was just really cool to like know that even on a smaller scale, you can do that a but also like to connect with these people who've been like sort of like following you for the last couple of years and like what you're up to and stuff like that. So yeah, you kind of like I felt like mini mini celeb vibes, you know, to. 00:17:54 Speaker 3: Just have people compliment you. Yeah, random new Town. 00:17:58 Speaker 2: And like people like drove from other cities just to come see me, Like people left their spouses. Yeah, people were getting yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. 00:18:07 Speaker 4: So that was like a really fun, very exciting thing that I did that. 00:18:11 Speaker 2: Did you have a favorite city you visited? 00:18:13 Speaker 4: Uh, Chicago pie best for comedy in my opinion, what a beautiful city. It was interesting And that was the other thing is too, I haven't really done comedy other cities before, not an hour of stand up, right, And so I'm sort of picking up on the cultural you know, things of each city. And yeah, Chicago, New York LA. I like Chicago New York very similar. I think there's like a drinking culture there too. 00:18:40 Speaker 2: They're a little dirty. 00:18:41 Speaker 4: They're not stupid, but you know, they're smart, but they're a little dirty. Not like necessarily content wise, but you know, they're like physically dirty people. 00:18:49 Speaker 2: Dirty like kind they're kind of like raw in a way, you know. 00:18:53 Speaker 4: And I but when I did Toronto and Seattle, they were more like they're really more like hmm, you know kind. 00:19:00 Speaker 2: Of it's pullover culture. Yes, yes, it makes sense. 00:19:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they're doing that thing one of the thing they like they sail on a surfable. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's handled, you know. I mean so like it's just a little bit more like m PR vibes right right. Yeah, the which is nice, which is there was just nothing wrong with that, But I like to do a little of both, right, So that was kind of like to experience. That was kind of interesting for me to figure out, like what the personality of each city firsthand? Nice? 00:19:30 Speaker 3: And were you uh like booking the flights and the hotels all by yourself? 00:19:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, this makes me panic. 00:19:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not doing like a different city every weekend, you know, I seeing like once one or two a month or whatever. But yeah, it's but you know, I've always been like a very organized person, so it can be a little time consuming, but like I can do it. 00:19:52 Speaker 2: It's fine. And how long were you spending in each of these cities? Like a day or two? 00:19:58 Speaker 4: I think there was a part in the beginning when I started this like tour, I would I'd be like, oh, I'm going to Seattle. I got to stay for a couple of days, but then you realize, like, I'm not there on vacation, right, So like after the show is over, it's like it's not like I have friends here, so. 00:20:13 Speaker 2: I'm like bored loneliness. Yeah, and so the same thing with Chicago. 00:20:18 Speaker 4: I staid a couple of days after to like just do some shows, and I was like, I could have just gone home. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, it was just kinda Yeah. 00:20:24 Speaker 4: That was when it hit me that I think for a long time, stand up in comedy has just been like this fun thing that I was doing, and as it slowly turns into like a thing I'm doing for money or thing I'm doing professionally, it turns from like a fun vacate to like just work, and so it's like, oh, I gotta get back and like get you done. 00:20:41 Speaker 2: You know, that's the entire thing of comedy. 00:20:43 Speaker 3: We're like, oh I loved this, I love watching it and doing it, and then it becomes your job and I was like, oh, no, this is miserable like every other job. 00:20:51 Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, So that was Yeah, that was like I experienced it for the first time on this past summer, and it was a weird feeling because I was like, Oh'm in Chicago, like let's have fun, let's got deep dish, and I'm like I'm doing it alone. I'm like, this is so sad imnauseous an entire deep yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I have diabetes now. 00:21:09 Speaker 3: Ye see, this is my problem because I've been thinking about doing this show live and like some sort of tour. But I was like, Oh, I would do a tour like cities with bakeries I want to visit. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: But I'm like, that's not why you do it. That's you go on a vacation to do this. Yea. 00:21:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually, if you did that, you would love the pastry bakery part, and then you would hate the show. So why don't you just take the money and go right go to France or wherever it is? 00:21:33 Speaker 2: Exactly? 00:21:34 Speaker 3: There would be like a total of nine minutes that I enjoyed, and then the rest would be an unbelievably stressful time for me. So I've got to I've got to reprioritize. Yeah, my what I do. 00:21:44 Speaker 4: I respect that though, and I think as you get older, you become more honest with what you want, and it's like bridge are like your croissance guy first, then comedy, podcasting, TV writing, but first and foremost, like let's get you a nice little tart, you. 00:21:58 Speaker 3: Know, right, and above all of that, just sitting on my couch, just in quiet. 00:22:03 Speaker 2: I've been on. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: I was in New York a week and a half ago. I have to go to Utah in four days, and then I got back to New York two weeks later. I'm stressed beyond stress. 00:22:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also not to say about traveling. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: And I don't know if you can hear my voice because I've been traveling a lot for comedy and like my job and stuff like that. I feel like I get sick a lot more. Oh, of course cold because I'm flying so much. 00:22:29 Speaker 2: Bugs galore Germans. I hate that. 00:22:32 Speaker 4: I hate that so much. I got sick at the end of my Chicago trip. I'm kind of getting over cold right now. 00:22:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just but it's like you don't even think. 00:22:39 Speaker 4: About that aspect of it as you travel, you know, And I'm using the mask and stuff, But I truly think it's just because I'm using my body, like from my altitude. 00:22:46 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, your body is unbelievably exhausted. There's no defenses less just too careful, careful. You know tours not to tell your managers. I'm done touring. The tour is you know, we started it three minutes ago and it's over. Or I'm done with the touring life. I'm not one of the rolling stones. Oh look, we have to talk about something else. There's something I need to talk to you about. 00:23:08 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:23:10 Speaker 3: I was really excited to have you here today. I was looking forward to having Fumi on the podcast. I thought, we'll have a nice time. We'll talk about whatever we want, We'll get to know each other, then we'll move on with our Sundays Sabbath Day. Let's be honest, it's a holy day for me. I'm headed to church after this. I thought we'd have a good time. So I was a little surprised. I host a podcast called I said no gifts. I don't know if you're aware. I assumed there were emails, phone calls, texts galore to you, and at some point the name of the podcast must have been mentioned. So it's a little surprised you show up and you have a gift. I mean, it wasn't even like you weren't even trying to be coy about it. You just said this is the gift. You had it in a unique wrapping paper. 00:23:59 Speaker 2: I'm sorry the wrapping paper. Well, I'm glad you're sorry about least one of these things. 00:24:03 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: Is this a gift for me? Absolutely, it's a gift for you. Okay. 00:24:07 Speaker 3: Well, it's in kind of a padded envelope. Should I open it here on the podcast? 00:24:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Okay, let's get into this. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: I love the squishy padded where Let's see what was this usually you? 00:24:42 Speaker 2: Okay? 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Was this a was this a screener? It's from Elite Logistics, which I am familiar with. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: That return address. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: I now have your full address, so you'll probably be receiving mail from me. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: What was the screener in here? I don't remember. This was a Oh I bet this was a like a screenplay, right for your consideration, wasn't the DVD? It was like, oh, here's a huge piece of paper, I have to throw. 00:25:09 Speaker 4: A DVD or maybe a yeah, you're right, the actual manuscript. 00:25:12 Speaker 3: Right, or there was like oh, maybe there was like a cardboard insert or something, but you can't remember. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: And realized we're gonna look into the return at this is crazy. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of a p I a little bit of a private investigator. Okay, well, let's dip into this and I'll pull out whatever's happening. Oh we got it here. 00:25:34 Speaker 2: Oh oh this is a real gift. Dog. Wow. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: This is great in a lot of ways because i've it's pockey, which is the snack that every well, I don't know if everybody's had it, but everybody loves when they have had. But I've never seen And this is where it gets very controversial for me, because it's not I've only ever seen chocolate pocky, maybe strawberry. 00:25:55 Speaker 2: This is is it. 00:25:57 Speaker 3: Honeydew candle though, which I think is deplorable. I mean, I think is one of the most divisive fruits in the world. Absolutely, yeah, okay, go ahead. 00:26:11 Speaker 4: Okay, So when your producer hit me up to this podcast, I was traveling, I was in I just came back from Japan. Okay, oh there recently, yes, And I was like, oh, this is perfect because I would just get them something weird from Japan, right right. Just gifting as a concept, if you just talk talk about that for a second. Germany people love gifts. Anywhere you go, they ask if you want a gift wrapped. The gift wrapping in Japan, it's it's so much wasting, wasting of the plastic, but delightful, but delightful. Yes, as you'll see each individual pockey as you can see on the side as a plastic wrap. 00:26:43 Speaker 2: I don't know, not like speaking of is wrapped in plastic. 00:26:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like one of those little things with the powder that you dump into a drink. 00:26:53 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so, but that's a special Canalop edition seasonal pockey because it's like the winter times. And I was also traveling all over Japan and I actually got that when I was in Hokkaido, which is like the very top part of Japan. 00:27:08 Speaker 2: Okay, the part was closest to Russia. 00:27:10 Speaker 4: And I guess they're like known for melons or something, and I was like, oh, this would be fun. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna try this in a minute. But I'm gonna you know, we're gonna wait, We're gonna build anticipation because this is gonna be a thing that could ruin the podcast after I try it. We'll open it soon. But yeah, I guess most melons are kind of wintery fruits other than watermelon, I associate that with summer. 00:27:32 Speaker 4: I don't you know, it's interesting. I eat cannleobs and melons all year long. I never really associated a season to it, right, So I didn't know. 00:27:41 Speaker 2: That you're eating them all year long? Do you have them in your fridge? I just I love melons, Like, I'll just I'll get the cut fruit whole foods or something. Yeah, pay the premium. I don't care. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know that I've ever met somebody who cares about candle op or honeydew to the like. 00:28:01 Speaker 2: I know people who will be like, oh, it's in the fruit salad. Sure, I'll eat it. 00:28:04 Speaker 1: Mmm. 00:28:05 Speaker 2: But to your seeking it out, Well, here's the thing, Yes, I'm seeking it out. 00:28:09 Speaker 4: Also, this, this might be the best or the worst advice of a gout when it comes to gifting things. I heard once in a TV show I cannot remember. They were like it was the plot of the episode is about like, I don't know what to get so and so a gift. And the advice that he gets is if you don't want to get someone a gift, you should get. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: Something you're excited about. 00:28:28 Speaker 4: So I saw this and I was like, oh wait, I love cattalops. And so it's like, I'm just gonna get you that because holding this box is so exciting for. 00:28:38 Speaker 2: Me, and it is like a beautiful box. It's very open, and you're like I. 00:28:45 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh duh, obviously, like I got this based on what I like. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: There's no way. 00:28:51 Speaker 3: But it makes those at least an interesting gift. It's an interesting gift. No one's bored by this gift. I'm kind of shocked and scared of it. Yeah, you're delighted by it. 00:28:59 Speaker 2: I want to, you know, I wanted you to experience something, right, it'll be a new experience. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean during Christmas and the holidays, when I'm shopping, I'm frequently and this is probably just some narcissism on my part. When I'm looking for other people's things, I'm getting very bored and like, I don't like looking at this sort of thing on the internet. I want to look at things I want to look at, but that's not what I'm supposed to be buying. But maybe I should just start buying people the exact things I want, Yeah, and. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: Make my life a little easier because I think the anxiety goes away because it kind of feels like you're buying it for yourself, right, and so you already check that box of like, oh, I feel good about purchasing this right, and then whether they like it or not is very it's out of your control. It's very therapy vibes this method. You know, I did my best. I did my best with this gift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm starting to realize I'm bad at giving gifts. 00:29:49 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's taken me a long time to realize this. Occasionally I make a good gift, but for the most part, I'm too stressed out by it. 00:29:58 Speaker 4: What makes you believe that you are bad at gift giving? Has you've gotten direct feedback? 00:30:04 Speaker 3: Well, I send out a survey, I say, fill out the survey and next time you'll get five dollars off your order. You're conducting bucket research, Yes, exactly, survey monkey dot com. No, I I haven't gotten feedback. But when I'm buying the gift, it's just I don't know. I'm in a full panic, and then I don't. I think I actually have gotten feedback, and it's from my nieces, who you know, are seven and under. So you get pretty honest feedback, you. 00:30:32 Speaker 2: Know, kind of say something this. I completely forgot I did this. 00:30:35 Speaker 4: I'm I'm also i think I'm not as good as of a gift giver as I think I am, because I think when you get some feedback, at least they're engaging with the product, right, And so especially if they're younger too, it's like even if they're like, oh, like Uncle Bridge, that sucks or. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: Something like, that's kind of funny still right. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: Right when I got to Japan, I hadn't seen my uncles and aunts in a while, and I'm like, and they're like completely suburban people. They live maybe like kind of on like where the airport is, so it's like suburbs, like New Jersey suburbs in Japan, right, And I'm like, what do I get these people? So I was like, okay, what's like cool? And I'm like, what would I get a friend in America? And so I was like, okay, Like one time I sent it a friend's apartment for a week and I got her like a candle from like dip teek, right, And I was. 00:31:16 Speaker 2: Like, that's a nice gift. 00:31:18 Speaker 4: So I got her like an expensive candle from dip teek and I gave it to her when I first landed and I saw her again on my last day and she never said. 00:31:27 Speaker 2: Anything about the killing. So I'm like, that's the worst is when there's no engagement. Oh right, so cold, that's so cold. But it's like, dude, does she not She's not. This is not a candle household? They did it not? Did she not like the smell? 00:31:41 Speaker 4: I feel like if I gave my grandma something and she hated it, she really roast me. And again, there's some engagement there that I can laugh about or be like, Okay, that didn't work. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: But no feedback. It's the worst. Oh and then you, I mean, for the rest of your life you'll wonder yeah, I know. And it was kind of expensive too. I was like kind of upset about it. 00:32:00 Speaker 3: You're not a cheap candle. You're not getting that a clearance at Target. You know, Well, well, the next time you're there, you'll have to just investigate snoop and see. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: If she's Canada yah. Yeah. 00:32:09 Speaker 3: Oh and if she hasn't, you take it back put it in your Yeah. Okay, So you were in Japan for how long? I was there for about I was supposed to go. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: I was supposed to come back tomorrow Okay, oh wow, but this is the time in my brain, I know. But the thing is, I don't not to get super inside industry, but I feel like people in this like career have this thing where like you just never know when your next gig is. 00:32:31 Speaker 4: So like first feeling, I had booked this vacation around Thanksgiving, being like. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm probably not going to get anything before the end of the year, and that's fine. 00:32:38 Speaker 4: But then I got this like gig that starts on Monday. So I just buy another flight back. And this gig doesn't pay that much because it's like a three week thing, and so I had to pay a thousand dollars just to fly back early. And yeah, and then my girlfriend's still there. I just left her there. My girlfriend's still in Tokyo. 00:32:57 Speaker 2: She doesn't know you've left in the middle of the night. Yeah yeah, yeah, my thing. 00:33:02 Speaker 4: So she's like yeah, she was like upset, like annoying in the beginning's like what am I going to do by my stuff? Like I was like, I don't know, Like I left you in Tokyo at least that's like a cool little town. So yeah, I'm back now doing the pod and I'm going to my first till work tomorrow. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just like annoying because it's just like, oh, like horror dollars. Yeah, of course that's expensive. Yeah, well hopefully it's a decent job outside. It'll be fun. I'm I decided to do it throwing your peanuts, but it'll be a fun show. 00:33:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so so yeah, my plan was some of my chip was shortened and yeah, you. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: Have you been. 00:33:34 Speaker 3: I've been once. I went in twenty fifteen. Okay for like two weeks. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: So I have another confession to make. 00:33:40 Speaker 4: This isn't even the gift that I wanted to give you what I wanted to give you this, I bought this, so what I don't know who you were when you when you guys hit right right was looking through your profile. I was like, okay, this man very well dressed, similar in size. I feel sure, what do you guys like us? What do we what do we struggle with? 00:33:59 Speaker 2: In America? 00:33:59 Speaker 4: I always find the struggle clothes that fit me perfectly, right, So I was like, oh, I'll get him like a cool like fashion magazine from Japan. They have a magazine called Popeye that's like really popular. I don't know if you've heard of it. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: No I have. 00:34:11 Speaker 4: They have like cool little like it's like a little fashion guide, and I was like, oh, he. 00:34:14 Speaker 2: Would love this. 00:34:15 Speaker 6: I would have loved that. Left that, So I left that and my girlfriend's suit case. She's still in Japan. Then it's too late. So I just gave you this. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: I mean, you're I mean the things you're saying are so true right now. When I was in Japan, it was heaven for me, Like clothing wise, I mean, go and be like, oh, I find things constantly that fit me here perfectly. That is not the case in the United States. 00:34:39 Speaker 4: I never I'm always like, oh, I'm gonna get this hammed or like and he spent like the thirty buckskin tailored, which is fine, But that feeling of the perfect fit, like the Cinderella vibe, I just I never get to experience that here. So when I do, I get high from it. I just try on cloth just from like to. 00:34:55 Speaker 3: Be shopping in the adult section and there are like multiple. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: Options, multiple multiple Yeah. I did some like vintage shopping. There have you done that? Oh? Yeah, of course. I think that's crazy too, because they're buying stuff from America and it still fits me. Because they're just finding things, right. 00:35:10 Speaker 3: They're finding things that will fit like average people in Japan. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was another world for me. I mean, I feel like the US in the last probably ten to fifteen years, has finally started to at least realize there are smaller people, at least smaller men. But uh, it's still hard. You go to places and frequently they start with a medium. 00:35:30 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's just not happening for me. A medium. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: I mean the pants I'm currently wearing were the smallest I could find and they're still too big for me. 00:35:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and the medium thing too is like people always like because when I try and close, not that I'm buying from like boutiques that often, but sometimes I'm just going and be like, oh this is kind of cool. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: I'll tie on, and they'll be like, well, like baggy is in right now. I'm like, not for me, No, not for me. 00:35:51 Speaker 4: I think Baggy's in if you have like nice like swimmer shoulders, right, if you're a big person, if you have a. 00:35:56 Speaker 2: Nice body, the baggy looks cool. But if you're small, you just look like you're wearing your older brothers. 00:36:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, You're like there's like two of you underneath you and sneaking into already a movie or something. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so it's not it's no good. 00:36:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, the recent turned towards like bag your larger clothing. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't. 00:36:12 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just I need something that you can at least seem that I'm like a human shape otherwise, like it's just flashbacks to middle school and things being even bigger. 00:36:25 Speaker 2: Than they were. Yeah, absolutely too much for me. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: Okay, so what else did you do while you were in Japan other than shop? 00:36:31 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:36:31 Speaker 2: I did go to one of those like hot spring places. I love hot springs. I love it so much. 00:36:38 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why I refuse to get a tattoo, because they don't let people in with tattoos. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: Right, which is a wild rule. 00:36:43 Speaker 4: I know some places are starting to do it because a lot of they're getting tourists and right they have tattoos without being involved with That's like the main reason why they didn't do tattoos in the beginning. 00:36:55 Speaker 2: So I did that and that was really amazing. 00:36:58 Speaker 4: We got like a we kind of splores like this room that had like a private hot spring in your room, but also like a public one that was like very beautiful. So we did both and that was amazing. But what was annoying is because I was traveling so much. The week before I went to Japan, I was in New York, and then before that was in Chicago. I got sick as I got to Hokkaido, will be like paid for this like amazing hotel. And so when you're sick, you're not really supposed to like bathe and stuff like that, because it like I don't know. 00:37:23 Speaker 2: I just mean, what, okay, I'm I'm stopping you. Have you heard that before? You're not supposed to bathe when you're sick. 00:37:30 Speaker 4: Well, I heard when you have a cold, it's not good to like this is mom science. My mom would always say, when you're sick, don't like shower because then when you get out of the shower you get cold and it makes. 00:37:40 Speaker 2: You more sick or something. I don't know. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: My girlfriend, it's not Japanese, was like, that's bullshit. I don't know how you're talking about. So I did end up getting in the bath and it was fine, but it's those things that kind of yeah, so. 00:37:51 Speaker 2: You're not fully enjoying it. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Even if you know, like logically, this isn't making me more sick, but it's like something nagging. 00:37:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it does make it kind of like it didn't ruin it. 00:38:02 Speaker 4: But it's like, oh my gosh, I paid so much money for this beautiful thing and I'm not able to enjoy to the fullest. 00:38:06 Speaker 2: So that's kind of annoying. But I actually think that that where's the cop car? 00:38:11 Speaker 3: Where's the ambulance they're driving around the yard? Uh, what could the emergency possibly be? There's nothing more important than this podcast? Shut it down? No, I feel like that kind of worked out in your favor. I feel like, I mean, your mom and I probably will end up in a huge fight over this, but I think you should be in a hot spring when you're sick. 00:38:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what my girlfriend was saying, because she was like, maybe i'll sweat out the I don't know. 00:38:38 Speaker 2: Either as scientists, so we don't really. 00:38:40 Speaker 3: I'm also going to say I've been playing a lot of Zelda this year. When you get in a hot spring and Zelda, it makes you healthier, you get it. 00:38:47 Speaker 2: Gives you more hearts. Yeah, I don't think about that. I think Zelda Trump's your mom. 00:38:51 Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, So the bath was fine, but this okay, you got I'll send you the spot if you want to go again. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do it. You gotta supposed to go do this. 00:38:59 Speaker 4: This place had in our room there was like a dining room, and we're like, what's this And in the dining room was a secret door that was locked from the other side. And they're like, oh, this is You're gonna have dinner here and we're gonna be a there's gonna be a chef in that secret room that only he can access, and he's gonna come in and set up dinner for you when you're ready to eat. And so there's our Our hotel room was like twenty four to seven, like accessible by the chef. He would like put food there. It was awesome. But the thing is, I was saying Christ moment a little bit. Yeah, but it was a little creepy, and like, you know, if you're like being I don't know, if you're just like in your private like walking around naked, you're like, can the chef just come in the moment, which he didn't. You can also close like the other door that goes into that room. But I was like I've never had that before, and that was amazing. 00:39:42 Speaker 3: Wow that I mean, yeah, I don't know of any other place you could possibly have that happened where you just have a chef that has some pervert access to your room. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: That was a perfey chef, wasn't he. I don't. It's so crazy because I couldn't tell if it was. I don't think he was just sitting there the whole time. I think it would not hume up and prep and and you hear him breathing all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he a good chef? Well yeah, I mean the meals were amazing. 00:40:05 Speaker 4: It's just that like at dinner, I just had like this massive headache and I like really couldn't eat most of it, and so I was like that I was really annoyed about it. 00:40:11 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, that's horrible. One of the best meals of my life I had at the beginning of strep throat, and so I wasn't able to enjoy any of it. 00:40:20 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: Where it was at a Christmas party and it was like catered by this reastating that I really loved, and it was like unbelievable Mexican food. Didn't get to enjoy a and okay, this is also let's say this is pre COVID, pre everything. And I didn't at the time, No, I had strep throat. So I'm you know, it wasn't that irresponsible, but not a moment of it was enjoyable for me. 00:40:44 Speaker 2: It looked beautiful? Is it because you couldn't taste anything or just were sick? It was like that weird like feeling of like it it just doesn't taste good, right right, and your appetite goes away? I think it. 00:40:52 Speaker 3: Right, You're just like, oh, for whatever reason, every other moment of my life I love eating food, and for whatever reason now it feels like a chore. 00:41:02 Speaker 2: Right right. Do you have a like a place or city that you like to go to, whether it's like from Chaud of memories where you're like, oh I love their food, or like this is where I go to get food. 00:41:14 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question, I'm I would probably say, I mean the things I really focus on our cookies. 00:41:22 Speaker 2: Dude, I love sweets New York. So New York for me, every time I go there, I'm on a cookie tour. I love that. I love that about you. That's the ways like insomnia cookies. You're doing something like okay, and now I'm happy to get into cookie categories insomnia. 00:41:35 Speaker 3: I mean it's like the absolute last dish. Yeah, that's like n y U kids, right. I mean it's open all the time. It's like no one at the bakery there cares about the cook They were just hired. They were like, I need a job. Yes, they were like, I love cookies and I love debate. I had no idea that like fancy cookies unbelievable. I mean, LA is like starting to get some decent cookies, but like. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: Countless good cookies. Okay, name like one spot that I should go. 00:42:05 Speaker 3: Okay, there's now this place I have. There's a caveat because a lot of what they do I don't approve of. It's called and this is a recent discovery for me. It's called funny Face Bakery. Okay, And the majority of the cookies they make are sugar cookies that are kind of like decorated like memes. 00:42:24 Speaker 2: Oh I hate that. 00:42:25 Speaker 3: Not not into it. God bless people if they enjoy that. I'm not paying they're like thirteen dollars to get like the latest meme or Kim Kardashian. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: As a cookie. 00:42:35 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, no, but they're chocolate chip cookie. Unbelievable, funny face baby. Yeah, that's what they should be focusing on. Give it to the chocolate chip cookie. Dump the rest of that. 00:42:44 Speaker 2: Although I'm sure they're like it's corporate sales or whatever. 00:42:47 Speaker 3: The I'm sure to custom cookies or whatever. That's a really good one. Oh there's a place called I think it's called Culture Espresso, which is kind of a mini chain in New York, and they have a very good chocolate chip. 00:42:58 Speaker 2: Cook if that's a restaurant or it's like it's like an espresso place. Oh my god, are so deep? Oh my god, you have no idea. I'm interested. I've got a list of places I need to go. Do you ever go back? 00:43:10 Speaker 4: And so I had this weird experience and I actually want to ask you about this because and maybe you can relate with the cookie thing. So when I was in Japan, like I hadn't gone back in a while, and you know, people always say like, oh, They've got the best food in Japan, and they do. But because it's been a while, I have all these memories of like, oh, like even like the little bento box from seven eleven is good, you know, and I go there and like, obviously when you go to a nice restaurant, it's amazing, but like I had a couple of those like little like rice ball from a seven eleven or whatever it is, and I this time I went, I was like, oh, it's actually not that good. And I was thinking, like, you know that thing that happens to like, I forget what it's called. It's like the New York hot dog effect or something. Have you heard that. 00:43:51 Speaker 3: No, I mean, this is already making sense to me, but someone. 00:43:54 Speaker 2: Says like, oh, the hot dogs in New York used to be so much better, and it's like they're not the hot dogs the same, just that you're now thirty four and you've eaten better things and so it just doesn't taste as good as when you were seven or whatever. 00:44:05 Speaker 4: Right, So I had these moments in Japan where I was like, oh, wait, this used to be so much better, and I was like it's not. And I was like it made me sad a little bit, of course, because it was like this in my memory, it's like this perfect place where I can go to anywhere and get this amazing food, and it's like no, it's not just like any other major see, like you got to know where you're going, Yeah, and someplaces suck and that's okay. And it kind of like we had a couple moments like that enough that I was like, wait, is food in Japan like not good anymore? Like what's happening right now? It was kind of a scary feeling. 00:44:32 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna stand up for Japan right now and say, the only example you've given is seven eleven so far, So I don't know that you have a ton of evidence. I mean, I'm willing to believe there were other experiences where you went to some crap hole and they serve you bad Japanese. 00:44:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, like some Mesa Kaya spy And I was like surely, like this is gonna be good, and it was kind of like not. 00:44:55 Speaker 2: It was interesting. 00:44:56 Speaker 3: I will say when I was in Japan, every all of the food I had across the board was excellent, I mean very good and like surprisingly cheap. I mean I was eating like and also way more unhealthy than I should have been. I was eating literally like a probably two pounds of ramen with fried chicken, like truely like that I walked away without having a stroke is crazy. 00:45:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:45:18 Speaker 3: The only bad thing I had was in Kioo at one of the. 00:45:23 Speaker 2: Conveyor belt sushi place. 00:45:25 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, see, converta bel sushi is like that's known as like the cheap sushi, right, So if someone says I've only had converta belt sushi, they're making a joke saying like I could never afford real sushi where a guy makes it and puts it in front of you or whatever. So yeah, I mean also sushi, that's tough because if you have money, you can get really excellent sushi in like pretty much every major city. I think, forcially La, you can get really amazing sushi. Yes, in La, probably better than a lot of places in Japan, but you are paying a lot of money in you, right, So I was thinking about that too, where like I think La just has great food, and so my standards a little bit higher. 00:46:01 Speaker 2: Even in New York too, there's like great zakaias in New York. 00:46:04 Speaker 4: So this place I was eating at in Japan was like, this place is ass And I was like, I've had better food in like New York. 00:46:08 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, but that's because in New York. 00:46:10 Speaker 4: They have like they people come from Japan and they like they try to like recreate that experience and so it's more expensive, but a lot of times it is better or whatever it is, you know. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: So it made me sad. 00:46:20 Speaker 3: I don't know, Well, you've lost something you'll never get back, unfortunately. 00:46:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:46:24 Speaker 3: I do think living in La or New York has spoiled me unbelievably with food where I just and also getting older and having had so much food at this point where I've become even pickier and my standards are so things I did used to love are not so much now right, just drag. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: I wish there was a way to like revert your taste. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like it's like the ignorance is bliss, but apply to your tongue. 00:46:49 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, yeah, you. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: Have like a full like what is it when they the old thing they did with your brain the bottoming bottom? Yes, your tongue, yes, lo bottomize my tongue. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: Go man, hitting that reset button in your tongue. That must be crazy. Can you imagine? It? 00:47:05 Speaker 3: Actually would probably be a nightmare because you think about babies are able to eat like four things without screaming because things are too much for them. 00:47:12 Speaker 4: I'm just also thinking, like, because now I like, I enjoy beer, but I would hate it again. 00:47:16 Speaker 3: That'd interesting those acquired tastes. I feel like I can eat just about anything at this point and enjoy it. Actually, this is a good segue to trying the pockey. 00:47:27 Speaker 2: Should we Yeah? 00:47:28 Speaker 3: I think we should open it up and see how I feel about I mean, obviously, like, what a cute package, even as these little hearts. What is happening? Okay, it says share happiness. That's very sweet. 00:47:40 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna hand you one. Have you had one of these yet? 00:47:43 Speaker 1: Have not? 00:47:43 Speaker 2: Oh? Wait? They are individually right, and they're also enormous. 00:47:46 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I gotta say, Japan's chill on the plastic wild It's too much. 00:47:53 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: This is Yeah, they're these ones. I'm used to Pocky being like half the same. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: This is a special, like special one. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: These are almost like a Cruella Deville cigarettes size O. The smell, it's like, oh, the smell is lovely, I will say, And this might change my you know how I feel about melon and honey. 00:48:15 Speaker 2: For the way you guys feel about this point. Okay, we're all gonna try it. That's cheers. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: Okay, it's fine, Fine, it's fine. It tastes it tastes like the worst starburst. Yeah, yeah, the starbursts that I like, picked up in the dark and ate not knowing it was. 00:48:36 Speaker 2: It's a fun concept, right, it's okay. 00:48:39 Speaker 3: And then yeah, the combination with the biscuit is weird. The biscuits good, right, The biscuit on its own would be good. But it's not like chocolate and salt, where it's a nice combination. This is like a It feels forced a little bit. And I hate using this word in any situation. I think it's such an annoying word. But funky, funky, I'm gonna say it tastes like fungus in a bad way. But you're into it or you don't mind it. 00:49:09 Speaker 2: See. I think this is one of those things where, like. 00:49:13 Speaker 4: I've just eaten so much pocky in my life, I just know what they're trying to do, right, and that's enough for me, you know what I mean, Like, I don't need it to taste amazing. 00:49:22 Speaker 2: I just know what they were trying to do, and that what I taste. 00:49:24 Speaker 3: It tastes almost like cheese a little bit, hona least do you what do you think, Hona Least does not look happy. 00:49:30 Speaker 2: That's starbars a Now he's perfect though. 00:49:32 Speaker 4: It is the worst starboards, right, it's the worst melting it on a stick, Yeah, exactly, hont Least, you're not into it. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: It's like a It's a bizarre experience. 00:49:43 Speaker 4: I would never like if I went to the store, I would never get this if this would not be like no, I would get like chocolate or strawberry. 00:49:49 Speaker 2: Or whatever, like a more you know, typical flavor. 00:49:53 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:49:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this to me is fascinating. 00:49:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I feel duped a little bit because the box is so nice and they're like special, seasonal edition or whatever. Right, they're even they even I can't read this, but they're saying, we use this specific kind of candle up called yubari. I don't even know types, so they're like, we use this expensive. 00:50:15 Speaker 3: Wow, I wonder how much candle ope is actually used in this product? Oh it since, I mean, who knows there is this twenty six percent? 00:50:23 Speaker 2: Say twenty six percent? Do you think that's what it is? 00:50:27 Speaker 3: Interesting? I mean, it's just I'm not gonna say it's disgusting. I am going to say it's something that no one should eat. But maybe by the time I finished this and I'm gonna try to finish it by the end of the podcast, I can't do it all at once. Wow, maybe I'll have acquired the taste. 00:50:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's not it's not great. It's not like, oh, I'm having a treat. No no, no, no no. 00:50:50 Speaker 4: This feels like you know when people go into a place and they're like, this is the hottest hot sauce ever. 00:50:56 Speaker 2: Like kind of those things were like a gag gift almost. 00:50:58 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I can iagine like buying this for the holidays and the whole family trying one and being like, well we went through something. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 00:51:06 Speaker 3: Okay, So you said that it seems like beer was an acquired taste for you. Were there any other foods that you hated that you've grown on you? I mean I used I used to like not yeah, like ferment that stuff. 00:51:20 Speaker 2: I didn't really like. What I didn't like kim chi. 00:51:22 Speaker 4: I didn't like fermented soybeans, which were like huge Asian diets. I love both of them. Now I'm trying to think of other things. Hmm, what was yours? 00:51:30 Speaker 3: Maybe that all I would say fermented stuff is one. I think it's probably kind of a universally at least at first challenging thing to eat. Yes, where it's like because I think it's almost like a an evolutionary thing. Probably where it's like for fermentation is like it's old and it's like, well, is a body thinking oh this could be rancid? 00:51:51 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:51:51 Speaker 4: I also like the way you make it. You like, you make it go bad on purpose, right, That's what the right sounds like. 00:51:56 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right. I think it is your body just rejecting it. Right. But then once you're right get into it. 00:52:01 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, there's nothing else like this because other food isn't rotten. And pickling, I think, is a similar thing I had. I didn't like pickles until maybe seven years ago. Really yeah, and then I finally had a good pickle and I was like, oh. 00:52:18 Speaker 2: And then it broke down. I don't like a sweet pickle. I don't like sweet pickles. That's so funny. 00:52:23 Speaker 4: When I first moved here to the States in ninety eight, other than Ohio, my neighbor's dad or my friend's dad would make pickles and like the fills you get from the backyard, right, and I just thought that was like the best thing ever. 00:52:33 Speaker 2: I was like, pickles are so good, but that's because I was eating at homemade right, like unbelievable yelievable. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like a pickle should be pretty easy to make, right what what. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: What changed seven years ago? I mean, I don't know how you were, but I was adult. 00:52:46 Speaker 3: Well, I was six and my kindergarten teacher brought some pickles. No, I had some at I had some with like a good shwarma place, and they were like they were probably made there or whatever, and they were just unbelievable tasting. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: And now all the. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: Well, I had it in the sandwich, No, just as a side dish, and I thought I'm going to try it, and it was immediately good wow, And then I was like, oh, pickles. 00:53:08 Speaker 2: Must be good. 00:53:10 Speaker 3: I mean, I still will say no pickles on my hamburger, but it's just like there can only be too many vegetables on a hamburger, or like four layers of vegetables then it stops tasting. 00:53:19 Speaker 4: And I've always felt like the pickles redundant because I a would get the crunchy from. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: This lattice right exactly twice exactly. And also the whatever texture from the tomato. 00:53:29 Speaker 3: It's just too much. But I'll ask for the pickles on the side and eat them. But those are the two real acquired the thing. The one thing I still have an acquired to taste for is black lickorice, although I feel like it's sneaking up on me. 00:53:43 Speaker 2: Wait, is that what rutpier is made of? No? That what is? Whatever that is? I can't do it. Rutier, I think is maybe a combination of things. 00:53:52 Speaker 5: No on a lease, so many more things than I was expecting to see. All spice, birch, bark, coriander, juni for ginger, winter green hops, burdic root. I mean this is probably not rock root. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: It's the coriander. I feel like coriander is a strong flavor, and I bet I think that's kind of like black licorice. 00:54:10 Speaker 2: That's yeah, turning you off? Yeah, yeah, I'm not crazy about root beer. It's too sweet for me. Is twizzlers black liquorice? 00:54:18 Speaker 3: No, Twizzlers is just a chewing product. It's more of like a chew toy. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: I thought it was Okay, I was wrong. 00:54:24 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I misspoke. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: That was like early. That was early root beer. 00:54:28 Speaker 5: Now the main flavor profile is at the heart of its winter green profile with secondary vanilla anise. 00:54:34 Speaker 2: Oh anie is blacklicks horrible and early. But twizzlers are. 00:54:39 Speaker 3: Just kind of like it's like a hard wax that has a light I would say cherry flavor. Okay, yes, but there is black licorice that they probably have black lickorice twizzlers, which are just now bad tasting twisslers. 00:54:51 Speaker 4: This is bringing back memories of when I was when I moved to High on the second d. Do you guys have those like markers that smelled Oh, of course, yeah, the black one was licorice, that's right. I always wonder like, what is this because everything else is like strawberry. 00:55:05 Speaker 2: Like Metland or some rainbow color, a little bear. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I've eaten all these things, but I've just never seen I didn't know what a black licors was. I was like, what, Like, who would ever? Why did they make it a flavor? They could have made us some chocolate or something like. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: I just so baffled by that color and flavor. 00:55:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such an unpleasant, divisive flavor. I feel like the marker people could have. There's certainly some dark foods that could have made that that people would appreciate. 00:55:30 Speaker 2: Make it beef smelling, make it barbecue. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: Burnt, toast, bred right, anything but black licorice. But yeah, root beer black licorice. That doesn't quite work for me. But I do like a nisse when it's in things has started to taste good to me. So maybe black licorices around the corner just feel like an like a food you get to in your like mid sixties. 00:55:55 Speaker 2: That'll be fun. 00:55:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always wanted to enjoy a root beer float, but I never I hate hate. 00:56:01 Speaker 2: Root beer floats. I'm so glad you don't like root beer. I don't mind root beer, but it's ice cream. I hate it. 00:56:06 Speaker 3: I mean, I I'll never order a root beer because it's so sweet, But like, if I drink it, I'm like, that's fine, But then you're putting vanilla ice cream in. 00:56:12 Speaker 2: It all disgusting. 00:56:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it reminds me of boy Scouts, which is another is what boy Scouts is about. Basically root beer floatings and like tying knots, two things I'm bad at. 00:56:24 Speaker 2: I can barely tie my shoes. My little sister taught me to tie my shoes. 00:56:28 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, which is probably my parents are probably worried, probably like, oh he hasn't he can't tie his shoes, and now the younger. 00:56:35 Speaker 2: Sibling is coming along. Whoa. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: But that's why Boy Scouts was pure Hell. I cheated my way through the entire program. Were you ever in Boy Scouts? 00:56:44 Speaker 2: I was not. I didn't. 00:56:47 Speaker 4: My parents didn't understand what it was. I still don't understand what it is either. It's hard to explain it. Like it's like I just learn good values. 00:56:55 Speaker 3: I guess you're supposed to learn good values and skills like survival skill, like you go camping, you go camping, you make crafts. 00:57:04 Speaker 2: It's like an after school activity. No. 00:57:07 Speaker 3: For me, it was like tight in with our church. So then it was another element, a Christian element. There was a very Mormon element to it. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: I think. 00:57:16 Speaker 3: X Mormons until just a few years ago, we're like the biggest consumer of Boy Scouts. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: I don't know they. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: A percentage of Boy Scouts Mormons. And then the Mormon Church. I think because Boy Scouts became kind of gay friendly, the Mormon Church was like no more, which great pr move, excellent pru and so they finally I think cut ties with them. But it was all tied in together for me, and so it's just not a great time. 00:57:46 Speaker 2: I will have to say, I bet you look real cute in a boy. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: Scout everyone, but everyone's scout. I mean it's a cute, little snappy outfit. You know, there's that Wes Anderson movie where everyone's basically in a boy Scout uniform. The Rabbit one Move, Shine Kingdom, Yeah, wait, moon Rise, a bunch of drunk children, and the Appalachians. 00:58:10 Speaker 2: No. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: I everybody looks cute in a boy Scout uniform, but the thing itself is horrible. I guess, like in theory, it's not a bad idea. 00:58:17 Speaker 4: There was also see I also didn't understand that the difference been boy Scouts and Cub Scouts. 00:58:21 Speaker 2: That was the thing at my school, right, Well then they looked the same. 00:58:24 Speaker 3: They Well I can tell you cop Scouts. I think you're a Cub Scout and who you're like eight years old? Okay, and then boy Scouts are like older. But it's the same different organizations as far as I know. Cup Scouts is way cooler, though. You get to be different animals. You're like a Wolf, you're okay, bear whatever. Yeah, and then you get into Boy Scouts and it's just a bunch of boring who knows. 00:58:46 Speaker 2: What right you can do it to your eighteen. 00:58:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then after from my experience, when people continued doing it, there were red flags glore. 00:58:55 Speaker 2: Of course, I think if you go past age of twelve, it's kind of yeah, it's like one red flaggy. 00:59:01 Speaker 3: But I am an Eagle Scout, which is the top top top Scout. 00:59:06 Speaker 2: But I will say again, I cheated. 00:59:09 Speaker 3: I cheated through so many of the merit badges, and I disavowed the entire organization. Wow, well not actually, who knows if it even exists anymore. I don't know, but it seems like they were making a good turn. 00:59:20 Speaker 4: Now, when you're an Eagle Scout, don't have to do stuff to get that or to graduate. 00:59:24 Speaker 3: You have to like get a bunch of merit badges, which are like the different skills. So you're like, I got the personal finance merit badge, I got the not tying. 00:59:34 Speaker 4: So I did marching band in high school and there was a kid who was like in the Boy Scouts or whatever, and we were like, I don't know, sixteen seventeen at the time, and his little project was he built a big tower that our music director could hop on and see what like if we're landing upright during marching band. 00:59:53 Speaker 2: He like built this tower. He bought a built a panopticon. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I didn't. I I just thought it was so he did it for free. I think. I just I was. 01:00:02 Speaker 4: I didn't understand any of it. Oh, I mean, it was very useful and I'm glad he did it, but I was like. 01:00:06 Speaker 3: Well, this is a to get your ego scout, you have to do a service project. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: That's what it was. 01:00:10 Speaker 3: So I collected like used clothes for the hospital, like people coming out of the hospital, which was like good thing to have done. And I didn't cheat my way through that part. So there are good parts. But this project that this person did was very odd. To build the tower for the person to stand on. 01:00:27 Speaker 2: How big was it? 01:00:28 Speaker 4: I mean, like the purpose of it is to look down at the marching band to see that the formation is correct. So it's quite tall, like I don't know, thirty forty feet. I don't know what was it made of wood and like pipes? I don't know, dude, I don't bang it like metal pipes. That sounds dangerous if it fell over to be dangerous, but like he's an eagle scout, so he had he got the knots right. 01:00:50 Speaker 2: I don't know to trust a child with that. I was just thinking about that, actually, I was saying it. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: That is, the school district should have stepped in and been like this, we're putting one of ours in danger. But I guess school districts don't really care about that anymore. 01:01:03 Speaker 2: Anyway. I don't know. 01:01:04 Speaker 3: Anyway, so exactly, yeah, wow, well I guess that beats my service project. But I at least I wasn't putting people in immediate danger. Yeah, and also like this weird security element that this person has. 01:01:18 Speaker 2: It's like there's no privacy to. 01:01:20 Speaker 4: Think about how how quickly it got past, Like he was like I want to do it, and then he did it, and there was no one to be like, hey, maybe he's not a good. 01:01:28 Speaker 2: But no one stops him and balances. They just all carried on like it was normal. Ring. Now I have the talent of it, I know, I think it's still there. 01:01:36 Speaker 3: That's wild. Good for him, who knows what he was thinking? Okay, well, I've had the pockey. I'm gonna take another bite so I can make it through. There you go, not loving it. I'm to try to chew up. It's weird because it's not like it's not dangerously unpleasant. No no, no no, but it's not good. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: It's not good. So it's fun to get. Yeah. 01:02:04 Speaker 3: Oh, the aftertastes it hit you. It's time to play a game. Oh okay onally S Gift to a Curse today. Excellent. I'm a professional and I needed a number between one and ten from you. 01:02:17 Speaker 2: Seven. Okay. 01:02:18 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. Right now, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: I'll be right back right here. Okay. Well, I have a personal finance podcast. 01:02:29 Speaker 4: I would love for you to check out podcast QDs with my friend Steffie Bake, where we look at her friends credit card statements and their spending habits with love. 01:02:37 Speaker 2: So check that out wherever you get your podcast. 01:02:38 Speaker 4: Also, I'm on tour doing stand up comedy, so if you want to come see me, go to fumiaby dot com for tickets. Specifically trying to sell the Irvine, California Day happening. 01:02:47 Speaker 2: On January tenth. I don't know when this is coming out, but if not, I'm also on tour. And then just follow me on all the socials at the fumi abe. I post a bunch of social stand up clips on there. That's th h E f U m I abe beautiful. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: That's weird that you say personal finance podcast and I just said personal finance merit badge. 01:03:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:03:06 Speaker 3: Wow, things are coming together in a perfectly normal way like things usually do. Yeah, man, we'd have The way I would love to the world of personal finance for me is there's a lot of therapy that needs to be done. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. 01:03:22 Speaker 3: I've got some serious problems with money, but I would love to come on and possibly unpack that. I mean, good luck to everyone involved. This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay, because there are definitely correct answers here, and you can fail, you can win, you can do a mediocre job. 01:03:47 Speaker 2: Up to you. Okay. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Nicole. Gift or a curse? Coughing without covering your mouth when you're outside with no one around? 01:03:58 Speaker 4: Wait, coughing with a your mouth outside when no one is around? Is that a gift or curse? 01:04:03 Speaker 2: Yes? I thought there are gonna be like powers or something. 01:04:07 Speaker 4: I thought you want to say, like the ability to cough without sound or something. 01:04:11 Speaker 2: Ah, is that a gift? 01:04:14 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's a gift because if you were sick, you're not really giving it to anyone, you know. But it's also a curse because like why you're out there all home? Coffin put you there? You know, not gonna go as a curse? This is this is a curse. 01:04:36 Speaker 2: Okay for me wrong? You should have trusted your instinct. 01:04:40 Speaker 3: Look, how often do we get to just let it all hang out, getting to just be You're out in the wild, you're coughing up a storm. You don't have to worry about anybody. Uh, you know, so often we have to cover our mouths while coughing. But when you're out in the wilderness coughing, who cares spread the disease through the air. 01:05:00 Speaker 2: I'm sure listeners are probably screaming right now. But you're alone, so there's nothing, there's no no one can be harmed. Actually that's as far as I'm concerned. Can you give a virus to like an animal? You can't write like if there's stuff, you know, things jump from species to species rare and if you it's kind of an achievement, if you've happened to do it. Yeah, to be the person that gave squzero squirrels like a new cold, yeah, I don't know. 01:05:32 Speaker 3: Okay, so definitely a gift and you did get it wrong, Okay, thank you. 01:05:37 Speaker 2: Number two. 01:05:38 Speaker 3: This is from a listener named Jade. Gift or a curse. Hollow chocolate bunnies. 01:05:45 Speaker 4: Hollow chocolate bunnies. Okay, I don't eat a lot of chocolate bodies. 01:05:48 Speaker 2: What's in it? Usually like a cream? 01:05:50 Speaker 3: No, I believe it's just literally the shape of a bunny. But inside is you know, a cave emptiness of. 01:05:56 Speaker 2: Oil instead of it being super dance with chocolate. 01:05:59 Speaker 4: Right, Oh, this is a This is a gift because I mean, I guess it also depends on like where you're in your life. 01:06:06 Speaker 2: But for me, I love sweets. I have a problem sweets. I love cookies. I love cake. 01:06:10 Speaker 4: That's my vice and I'm always trying to cut down my sugar intake, and so I feel like I think I think a lot of adults are trying to cut down the sugar intake, right, And so this is a gift because it feels like. 01:06:21 Speaker 2: You're eating a whole bunny. But really, if you do the math, you're probably eating like fifty percent of them, if not even less. And that's you're tricking your body. That's tight, correct you. 01:06:32 Speaker 3: I love there's a fragility, there's a you know, it's this you know nice and uh, it can crumble at any second. 01:06:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:06:41 Speaker 3: I love the thin chocolate, a full solid chocolate bunny. 01:06:45 Speaker 2: You're gnawing on it. Yeah, that's not fun. That's not fun at all. That's a project. I also love the sound that you get when you buy into a hollow. 01:06:53 Speaker 3: Right, You're like, it's almost like a it just collapses. I love that collapse and you don't get that for many candies. Yeah. Yeah, an absolute gift. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and they can deal with it. Okay, very well done. Number three. This is from somebody named Zachariah. Gift or a curse? Having your new neighbors invite you over for dinner at their place. 01:07:17 Speaker 4: Oh God, I love an invite, but I don't love the follow through, you know what I mean, I don't. I moved in recently to like a new place once. How I went' Like every single part is like, oh, we should have you over for a drinks sometime. Love that, right, love that part, but don't actually. 01:07:32 Speaker 2: Don't actually do it. But yeah, tho, this is a curse. 01:07:34 Speaker 4: Is a curse because because here's the thing, if your neighbors were like weird or assholes or you don't get along, you don't have to know that, and you have to live by each other for like a long time, so it's just better to leave it alone. If you get dinner and something weird happens, he makes a weird comment about your shirt or your wife or something, now it's. 01:07:55 Speaker 2: All weird right now. You and I guarantee the food's gonna be okay, the food I be that good. Okay. They're probably gonna give you cattleg pocky. You never don't know what. They're gonna give you some plate full of it eat. 01:08:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's no like best case scenario, like yeah, you get like a free meal, but you're just risking way too much. And if I feel like, just judging from talking to you, I'm guessing your listeners are similar to you. I'm film more all risk averse, right, this is to risk, this is this is a curse. You don't do it, Absolutely a curse. These people are not inviting you over out of the goodness of their heart. Now they're snooping. 01:08:32 Speaker 3: Ooh, this is just like an information discovery mission for them. They you're there, bringing you over to get as much of you as possible, as quickly as possible. Wow, it's not a natural way to get to know somebody a neighbor. You want a neighbor, you need to see each other on the way to the mail or taking the garbage out and a little small talk. Let that build over a few months. Then you have dinner. Once there's you know, once you can trust each other. But if somebody is immediately inviting you over, they want something, yes and there, they'll stop at nothing to get it. 01:09:05 Speaker 4: Ooh't I didn't even think about like the spy conspiracy theory aspect of it. 01:09:09 Speaker 2: I love that. 01:09:09 Speaker 3: Nosy, Yeah, nosy, I mean some boys, that's good because now you know your neighbor's nosy. Yeah, but think of all the information you're giving up. Yeah, yeah, so it's a curse. Yes, that sounds awful. I mean, I just the order I get, the less social I am, and I just can't. Oh yeah, I just can't. No, I've got like a forty minute cap at parties. I regret going. I'm trying to avoid socializing in any possible situation. And God, a new neighbor inviting me over for dinner. No, thank you get to know me in the driveway. Okay, you got two out of three. 01:09:48 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You started off on a horrible note. Well, I didn't know how this. 01:09:51 Speaker 4: I didn't know if we're going, like literally, because you know, some people play a game and they're trying to be like weird. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: You know, excuses, excuses, sore losers aren't not welcome on this podcast forum. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: Two out of three. Not bad. 01:10:04 Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails people right into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They have questions, I get into the inbox, I copy them into my dock and I try to help these people. 01:10:19 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, Will you help me help. Absolutely. 01:10:21 Speaker 3: Okay, this says dear Bridger, and then parentheses guest name here, So dear Bridger, Fumi and analies, we're all welcome here. Let's see it says my first child will be arriving on planet Earth in a few weeks. A sweet friend gave me and my partner a baby doll with an embedded speaker that plays breathing and heartbeat sounds. This is supposed to be comforting to the sleeping human child, giving them the impression that they are not alone in this cold world. We love this friend and appreciate the thoughtfulness of the gift, but medical experts say that it's unsafe to put toys in the baby's bed until they are a year old. And this doll is just a little creepy. Do we keep it for a year and give it a try or return it? 01:11:03 Speaker 2: No, you don't return it? What do you mean return it to the gift giver. That's so weird, dude. No? What No? You throw it away in secrecy or do you use it? 01:11:14 Speaker 4: That's that's crazy to be like, Hey, actually this gift is really creepy. 01:11:18 Speaker 2: So no, thank you, that's no, that's insane giving somebody back a gift is a very funny effect, even because an option is alarming to me. 01:11:26 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I'm actually you know, we've got this doll that's breathing, it's making noises. If you were to leave that on their porch, that's a good way to return it. Say nothing, it's just out there breathing. That's not about it's not about option. But it is a little scary. I'm gonna say, though, Get this a live doll in the bed with your baby as soon as possible. 01:11:50 Speaker 2: Get it in there. 01:11:51 Speaker 3: Who knows from movies, we know that these dolls that are lifelike, only good things. 01:11:55 Speaker 2: Can come of it. This regard to the medical experts, medical experts, what do they know? Right, right, right? 01:12:00 Speaker 3: And we've got this little doll with an embedded speaker. Obviously, the neighbor is listening. In the conspiracy theory, I love this. The neighbors like got their ear to a little radio and uh or it's the friend or whoever. I'm thinking about nosy neighbors all the time, apparently, but they're listening, and they want to hear your baby breathing. And what could be sweeter than your friend wanting to secretly listen to your baby breathe. 01:12:25 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right about the being sneaky thing. 01:12:28 Speaker 4: It's a speaker, it's a walking talking right, you're listening on your family. 01:12:31 Speaker 2: Your friend is a freak. 01:12:33 Speaker 3: Your friend is trying to get information on your family or baby, and they've gone out of the way to do it, so you have to give them credit. 01:12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, where are they? 01:12:43 Speaker 4: I'm just like wondering what the thought processes of like gifting something like that, Like they have to first buy, they have to find something as on the internet and be. 01:12:50 Speaker 2: Like, wow, what a great product. 01:12:51 Speaker 4: Right, So that's step one, like to not be like that's fucking weird, just to be like just without even the gifting thing, great product, and then you buy it and then you like this would make Yeah, I don't know, but see I get scared because my sister just had a baby, and I think she's always trying to get him to not get used to certain things. 01:13:08 Speaker 2: Right. 01:13:08 Speaker 4: So some parents won't use a pacifier because they don't want them to get used to certain things, oh right, right, And so getting used to us pacifier and having the need to put something in your mouth like a thumb when your baby's like three or four. 01:13:19 Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world. It's actually kind of cute. 01:13:21 Speaker 4: But like, if this baby gets used to this weird friend, his robot friend, like you know, if he can't eat or sleep without it. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: Suddenly it's more family to the baby than the parents. Absolutely me. 01:13:32 Speaker 4: You get a bing on an airplane now when you travel, like, what will their parents think? 01:13:35 Speaker 2: Like it's gonna tell the family apart. 01:13:37 Speaker 3: It's going out on little trips with the baby. It's alone, who knows what's happening. Yeah, an Lisha's brought up the baby or what could be the baby. 01:13:45 Speaker 2: Kind of cute, Okay, I was picturing something else. 01:13:47 Speaker 3: Now, this is a strange looking baby. It's I don't even know how. It almost looks handmade in a way that's somehow not that scary, but that I mean that almost might become more scary. 01:14:00 Speaker 4: I was picturing like a brats doll, like with the stomach with like the open top. 01:14:06 Speaker 2: I was literally picturing like the speakers on the stomach. I don't knowize it was a separate I don't know they're sold separately. What what doll or baby have you ever seen that made you think that's about? It was. 01:14:18 Speaker 4: Well, I think when you said it was they were listening in, I thought of like, oh, it's homemade. 01:14:23 Speaker 2: And then something I was picturing like a doll, like an American girl doll in a bonnet. Yeah, I was vibes. 01:14:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, hotly, What do you think they should do with this baby? 01:14:36 Speaker 5: Well, if there's a speaker, and I mean, I think you need to test your theory about whether or not the friend is trying to listen in. So I think that the first thing they have to do is start talking ship. 01:14:45 Speaker 2: On the neighbor. Yeah, on the name or the friend. 01:14:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, so smart, because then if the friend freaks out, you're like the gotcha, yep, wow. 01:14:54 Speaker 2: Very well played. 01:14:55 Speaker 4: You gotta do something with specific You gotta like ship on some sweater that they wore, right. 01:15:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 01:15:01 Speaker 3: Then observe, observe Yeah what I mean the mind games you're suddenly playing with this person. But that's what being in a friendship is all about, the mind mind games, and you know, just psychologically torturing each other. Well, uh, I think we answered no, I know we answered this question perfectly. Somewhere in there the perfect answer lies. 01:15:22 Speaker 2: Uh, you definitely keep it for a year and let it take over your baby's life. 01:15:26 Speaker 3: I think that's kind of the solution here. And uh, don't write in again. I don't ever want to hear from you again. 01:15:36 Speaker 2: Fum. I'm not going to finish this pockey. 01:15:38 Speaker 3: That's okay, I you know, but it is going to be in my cupboard as a little thing to let people try boxes Q. 01:15:44 Speaker 2: I bought this fully knowing that it may not be that good, but I just thought it was like a fun little thing. If you talk about my trip hockey, we would all just be like, well, yeah, sure this was nice. Of course it was nice. Well, you know, can I also say when I got the email from a producer not to put it on blast, but it was just like, oh, you can anything like you can bring in a rock. And I was like, I'm not certainly not bringing in a rock. I know, I don't know this man. I cannot show up with a rock. You know. 01:16:07 Speaker 4: Let me get you like a real gift first, and it may be a rock if I'm invited again. But so I was like, okay, let's get like a proper gift. The box is nice, you know. 01:16:15 Speaker 3: It speaks volumes, Yeah, speaks volumes about you as a person. That you instead of a rock, you would bring me something disgusting. 01:16:23 Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. 01:16:23 Speaker 3: I'm very excited and I do love to have this sort of thing in the cupboard for company to say. Yeah, just be like trying to try it. See what you think. Well, I've had a wonderful time with you here today. Likewise, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here and listener, the podcast is over, obviously, that's very clear to you where I hope it is. I you know, the hints have just been flying at you that we're wrapping up. Get on, move on with your day. I love you, good bunny. I said, no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend on Aalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting, And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts. 01:17:24 Speaker 2: And I invit, did you hear? 01:17:29 Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff. 01:17:51 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?