1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Wilmer Badma. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: It's Freddie Rodriguez. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to this podcast. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: This is part two, Part two conversation with Adam Road 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: that it was too good. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: It had to be too You're still awake. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 4: But going back to uh so then that that gave 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 4: you the confidence to go, I'm gonna pack my stuff 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 4: up and move to La No. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: So I did. I did extra work. I was trying 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: to you know, get an agent and hustle for auditions 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: and crash auditions, mostly commercials. At the time, I was 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: doing some theater work. I was, you know, still working 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: as a bellman and uh and doing all these things. 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: And there's a whole side story about you know, getting 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: my stockbroker license and a bunch of other stuff as 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: a whole you know, during that course of time. But 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: I I did background, like I said, between New York 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: Undercover and you know, more movies than I can remember, 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, during that period of time. I guess we 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: call that like two two and a half three years 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: whatever it was. Circle it back now to where I 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: caught it and sort of like you know, digressed for 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: a moment, and back to my pops. Right. So, my 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: pops was in the army, with this guy named Bill Clark. 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: And I'm walking into the house one night and my 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: father is watching TV, which is the norm, and he's like, yeah, 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: you remember this guy. And as I'm walking in the door, 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: he's freaking out. He's like jumping up and I can't 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: believe this. I can't believe it. You remember him? And 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Emmy Awards on TV and he's 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: pointing to this guy on stage and he's like, that's 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Bill Clark. You don't remember him. And I'm like, I 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: don't remember him. He goes the man, I haven't seen 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: him in years. And my father knew this guy from 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: the Army reserves and when he knew him, they were friends, 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: and Bill was a New York detective. And my father 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: cannot put together how in whatever it is ten years 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: that he hadn't seen him, twelve years he hadn't seen him. 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: This guy was now standing on stage at the Emmy 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Awards winning an Emmy, winning an Emmy with the people 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: from New York from NYPD Blue and so the whole 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 2: Botch Go crew there. Yeah, and my dad is bugging out, man, 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't remember. So my Dad's like, wow, 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: this is crazy. Couldn't believe it. So every Sunday I 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: mentioned Sonny Volpie to you guys, the teamster my dad 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: used to have. They go to this little diner and 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: my father this guy, Sonny, and another guy, the old timers. 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: You know, they were older than my dad. But he 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: used to hang out with these guys and they sit 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: and bullshit, read the paper, talk smack about whatever, and 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, spend a couple hours on a Sunday morning. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: So he's reading the paper and there's an article about 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Bill Clark and my father says to Sonny, He's like, 55 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: you know this guy. You ever come across him, you know, 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: driving or whatever. And son He's like, yeah, no, I 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: know Bill. Yeah, a nice guy, you know. So my 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: father said, can you can you get me in touch 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: with him? I want to reach out to him, you know, 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: it's been so long. So Sonny gets HI the number 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: of the production office. My father calls, gets a hold 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: of Bill. Bill can't believe it, but ray, oh man, Ray, 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: it's good to hear from me. They're talking, they catch up. 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Bill's asking about his family, how you know, how the 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: kids or whatever. My father says, yeah, you know, Adam, 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Adam has been acting the last few years. He's doing that, 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: and you know what my sister's doing, and you know, 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: so they catch up on life, right. Bill says to 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: my father, Look, I'm leaving tomorrow. I'll be back to 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: New York in a couple of months. We've got to 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: come back to Shoot. I'll call you. We'll get dinner 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: when I get back. And if, for whatever reason, you 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: get to LA between now and then, you call me, 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: here's my numbers, let me know. And it turned out 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: that year, this is ninety six. That year we were 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: supposed to come out here to visit my parents' best friends. 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: Their sons were living in LA and so we were 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: coming out to visit them for Thanksgiving. The two families 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: we're going to get together. So we come out to 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: see Ralph and Xavier, and you know ral you know 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: my boy Ralph. So come out to see Ralph and 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: we have Thanksgiving. My father calls Bill and he says, hey, man, 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm in town for Thanksgiving and you know, would love 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: to see you. We're here until whenever, and Bill says, 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: tomorrow tomorrow, we'll get together. Day after Thanksgiving. We'll go 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: to dinner. And my father says, great, So the day 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving nineteen ninety six is really the day like 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: my life changed because we go out to dinner and 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: we go to Giorgio Baldi's on Intrada. It's real fancy 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: Italian restaurant that was very Hollywood. It still is, you know. 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: It's It was at the bottom of the Pacific Palisades, 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: right where the pch meets in Trada and we walk in, 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, and and right away I'm like, oh shit, man, 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: this is Hollywood, like for real, Like Kurt Russell and 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Goldie Hawn are sitting there having dinner. Was it. I'm 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: getting confused now because the only murders in the building, 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: I can't remember it was Steve Martin or Martin Short 98 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: was sitting there in the rest one of those guys. 99 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Was there somebody else? But you walked in and you 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: knew it's a small restaurant, so you walked in and 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: you were like, oh shit, like wow, this is like 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: this is the real deal, man, you know. And it was. 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: It was a trip. I'm in there with my family 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: with Bill and his wife at the time, and h 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: and we meet his best friend was meeting us for 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: dinner there. Bill's best friend So Bill's best friend is 107 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: there with his wife and three kids, and we all 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: sit down at this big table, got the biggest table 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: in the place, and we're all sitting there and uh, 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: his best friend comes and sits next to me and 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: we start talking. And two and a half three hours 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: goes by for dinner and me and this guy been 113 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: talking the whole time, and his name's David. And at 114 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: the end of the dinner, I'm just like, you know, 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: he's asked me about my life and we're talking. I'm 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: sharing stuff with him, and we just really hit it off. 117 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: And at the end of the dinner, I'm like, yes, 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: you know, David, I know you work on the show, 119 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: but what do you do at NYPD Blue. And it 120 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: turns out it's David Milch, who is, you know, just 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: a legendary writer in television and tremendous talent, and so 122 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: he says, yeah, you know, I helped create the show 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: and this is what I did. And he's like, look, 124 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm writing a pilot for something that Bill and I 125 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: are doing, and there's a character in the show that 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: I think you would be right for if you wanted 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: to come out in audition. Have you ever thought about 128 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: moving to LA And I had been thinking about it 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: for almost a year at that point, as Ralphie had 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: moved out here and I was already thinking about I 131 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: just knew, like that's where you had to go at 132 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: the time you're going to pursue it. La was where 133 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: you had to go do it. You know, New York 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: was one thing, and you could stay and go that 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: track in New York. But you know, for some reason, 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: even as a kid, man La just kind of called me. Yeah, 137 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: you know, I was on the sun, the palm trees, 138 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: whatever it was. I was like, I know, one day 139 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I gotta go. I gotta go that way, you know, 140 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: whatever it was. And so uh he said, man, David 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: was so kind and generous. 142 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: Man, so let you audition for it. 143 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: So not only that, he says, look, you have a 144 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: place to stay. And I'm like, look, hey, I have 145 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: a place to stay because I know I could stay 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: with Ralph and his brother. He's like, oh, okay, I 147 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: would have offered you my guest house. You could stay there. 148 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: And right then he says, stay in town a little 149 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: longer if you can. This is Thanksgiving. Let me find 150 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: I want to just get you on camera. I want 151 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: to see if we find something on blue on NYPD 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Blue and just see you on camera. So I hang 153 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: out for about two weeks and waiting around. I'm just 154 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: enjoying LA and finally get a call, Hey, we've got 155 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: something on an episode. I come in and it's a 156 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: character that like has one line three words and it's 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: a It's in an episode of NYPD Blue called Upstairs. 158 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: Downstairs with the detectives and the uniform cops are beefing 159 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: with each other, and I'm a uniform cop that comes 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: up and I'm carrying some boxes and shit and I 161 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: and I all I say is uh is there's like 162 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: the sergeant and two detectives Jimmy Smith's and it might 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: have been Dennis Fans talking to the sergeant and there's 164 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: like a heated exchange. And I come up with these 165 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: boxes and I'm just like in the corner and then 166 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: and then one of them says, yeah, in the corner 167 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: or whatever, and I go, you know, delivery boy again, right, 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: But then I have a stare down with Jimmy Smith's, 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Like we have a stare down right, Yeah, that's it, 170 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: in and out right done, Like you know, by the 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: time you recognize me, when you saw it, it was over. Yeah, 172 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: but I got my minute and I never forget. Man. 173 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the trailer. I'm writing in this little journal, 174 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: like I got a line and I'm here on the 175 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: thing and it's like like this is like really happening, man, 176 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: you know. And so I do this thing. Great, it's done. 177 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: I pack my ship. I go back to New York 178 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm moving to LA. I know I'm 179 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: moving now, like now, I got to go out because 180 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: this is the possibility of this audition for this show 181 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: is going to happen. And I'm like, that's that's all 182 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: I needed. Like that's enough for me. I'm packing up. 183 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm moving out. So pack up, I move out. I 184 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: moved to LA end of January. I get out here 185 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: and I have a place to stay for a little while. 186 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: That doesn't work out, things get complicated. I'm trying to 187 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: and at the lowest point, man, I get a call 188 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: that the show that that character is not going to 189 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: be in the pilot. 190 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: Ah. 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: So I'm like, shit, man, I'm out here. I'm freaking 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: figuring out exists but not yet but not yet. So 193 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: and I don't have an agent. I don't. I'm trying 194 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: to get all of this right. So I come out 195 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: here with that same hustle, and instead of mailing envelopes out, 196 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm literally driving around in my car handing out headshots 197 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: at agencies with a Thomas Guide straight up Thomas. Okay, 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: there's an agency here as part of the valley learning 199 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: my way around LA. And I go to this agency 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: and I think they were no more for repping dancers 201 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: at the time, but KM something I can't remember what 202 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: it was, man, but I give my this woman she 203 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: says she wants to rep me. She asked me for 204 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: my address, so they like, look, I don't have an 205 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: address right now. The only address I could give you 206 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: is where I was selling real estate for first time 207 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: home buyers out in Riverside, right And I'm like, I 208 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: can give you that. She's like, oh, you don't have 209 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: an address. I'm like, no, let me give you this 210 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: beeper number in this and she was like, okay, you're 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: looking for a place to live. I'm like yeah, and 212 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: so she's like, okay, call this number later tonight. I 213 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: call the number. She picks up. Her name was Jennifer. 214 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: She's like, look, me and my roommate are looking for 215 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: a third roommate because we're we just want to save 216 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: some money before we move on to our next place. 217 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: So I ended up living sleeping on the floor in 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: the living room of this apartment in Burbank for like 219 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: months and a half. 220 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: What's an agent? 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: And she became my agent for a while, right wow. 222 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: And then as I as I'm thinking like damn, when 223 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: is this pilot gonna happen whatever, Bill calls me and 224 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: he's like, Hey, the characters back in the pilot and 225 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna bring you in for an audition. 226 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: And my saving grace and I'm going back to this 227 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: this moment was an acting class that I was in. 228 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: That Milch again was like an angel and was like, 229 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: go see this woman. She has an acting class. And 230 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: I go and I show up and it turns out 231 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: there's like four or five people in the class that 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: he's paying for Oh wow, to go study. And he 233 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: paid for me to go study with this woman, you know, 234 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: And it was what was so great about it in 235 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: that moment was that it was somewhere to be like 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: and you know, I was lonely as hell out here. 237 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I really Ralph was my boy, and that was the 238 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: only person I knew out there. My boy Ralph was 239 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: grinding trying to make his career happen, and so all 240 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: of a sudden it was like, oh, there was community, 241 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, and and somewhere to be every week and 242 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: doing something and you know, and it was cool man. 243 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 4: And but now but now you're in the pilot and 244 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: now well, first of all, you're still so you go 245 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: to not in the pilot yet, so practice is the audition, right. 246 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: So the audition comes up finally, like the characters back 247 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 2: in the pilot, audition for it is coming up. So 248 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is my moment. I go, I prep, 249 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: go do my audition, and I walk out, you know, 250 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: feeling good. But it's really only the second time that 251 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: I had, like an audition for television. I had audition 252 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: for something on New York Undercover and get it. And 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: this was really my first audition for something big. And 254 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: I walk out and I'm an agent, so I don't 255 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: get feedback. I don't want to bother Bill because just 256 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: getting to know him at the time. So like ten 257 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: days goes by and I don't hear anything, and I think, like, 258 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: I mean each day that I didn't hear anything, I 259 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: was silence. Was like I was crushed, and at that 260 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: time my life like to be crushed. The feeling I 261 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: felt was anger, so like I would express it as 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I would literally like bust out in a 263 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: rage at a red light, just because like you so 264 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: missed at myself, man, And. 265 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Because all the all the boxes were checked. 266 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: The dude, you know, you take a shot in the class, 267 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: the whole thing. And I'm like, oh man, you know, 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: because I didn't think I was bad in the audition, 269 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: but I didn't know, like I didn't have enough you know, 270 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: I haven't had enough experience, no barometer yet, you know. 271 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: And I had no agent to call and go like, 272 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: well what they say, what's the feedback? Like, you know, 273 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: tell me something so and like I said, I didn't 274 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: want to bother Bill because I'm like, man, the dude 275 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: did more than I could ever ask somebody to do 276 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: for me. And you know, anyway, those ten days goes by, 277 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: and at that time I had They used to be 278 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: a restaurant on Melrose called Georgia's. Oh yeah yeah, and 279 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: it was a beautiful spot man, and it was owned 280 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: by Denzel and Wesley Snipes and Norm Nixon and the 281 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: owner operator partner was a guy named Brad Johnson. Uh, 282 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: and I love Brad. Brad was really good to me. 283 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: An ex girlfriend of mine at the time was still 284 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: a dear friend of mine. Her dad was friends with 285 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: Brad and he reached out to Brad before I came 286 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: to LA and was like, Hey, look, this kid's good kid. 287 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: He's gonna come by, you know, just look out for him. 288 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: And so I would go to this spot and it 289 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: was the spot man like it was. It was dope spots, 290 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: so like you had to get dressed up. So I 291 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: put on you know, uh, sports coat and slacks and 292 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: no leather pants. I couldn't afford the leather pants at 293 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: that time. Man pants. I wish I had some leather pants. 294 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: But I would go there jazzed up and once a 295 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: week I would go and sit down and Brad would 296 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: hook me up with a meal and you know, a 297 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: drink or two. But what was the best thing about 298 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: it was like it was a place to post up 299 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: and I would meet people, you know. So I met 300 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: some girls and went on my first hikes that I 301 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: ever went on with That's go on a hike you know, 302 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: California ship like the hike. I'm like, yeah, all right, uh, 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: And I met some guys that I'm still you know. 304 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't seen it in a while, but like, 305 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: you know, it was friends with for years, and you know, 306 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: it was a place again to like feel like okay, 307 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: like I'm belonging, belonging, right. So one night Bad calls me, like, hey, 308 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: come back for dinner tonight in the middle of the week. 309 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: It was like a Wednesday, and and I had not 310 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: told anybody about this audition, right. I was like, I'm 311 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: not gonna say anything about this audition till I know 312 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: what the end result is. And I hadn't gotten the end. 313 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: And that's the rule of thumb, by the way, just 314 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: to yourself. 315 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: And like, so I get a call come in for dinner. 316 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: So I sit down with Brad and I'm there at 317 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: a big table with him in about I don't know 318 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: eight other people and they're all adults, successful people, you know. 319 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this was like one of the hottest restaurants 320 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: in town. And Brad's friends were all doing it or 321 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: they're all you know, they were probably in their forties 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: at the time, and they were like experienced and you know, 323 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: but I'm being invited to the table. We're having conversation 324 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: and they're talking about their careers, business things, things that 325 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: are going on for them. And it comes to my turn. 326 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: Somebody turns like at them, so, you know, what's up? 327 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: What's going on? You know, what are you up to? 328 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: And I'm like, shit, man, I didn't have shit else 329 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm like, we talk about this this 330 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: house that I showed somebody in Riverside, like earlier that day. 331 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, I said, well, I'm like, I'm gonna 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: let the cat out the bag. Fuck it, right, I'm like, yeah, 333 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: I had this audition for a Stephen Boschko pilot about 334 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: ten days ago, and you know, I was like, I 335 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: went in there, I did my best. I was like, 336 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: but I think I blew it. And I have no 337 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: point of reference to get any feed. But I'm just 338 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: telling them what's on my mind. Right. They're like, oh, man, 339 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: well you got to stick with it. It's you know, 340 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: it's all good for the process. About five minutes after 341 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: I talk about this, man, my pager goes off. This 342 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: is how old. There's a long cage. My pager goes off, 343 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: and I look at the number, and I thought I 344 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: was fly because I had an eight hundred number for 345 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: my pager, right, so anybody could die that page, right, 346 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: and they didn't need any quarters up for your call, right balling. 347 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: So I look at the number and it's and I 348 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: was waiting to see this number. It was three one 349 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: oh uh you know, uh six six there was the 350 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: Fox exchange right, and I'm like, oh, this was the number. 351 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: I was three six nine three one oh three six 352 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: nine something some something. And I was like, I knew 353 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: it was from Boshko's office. So I get on there. 354 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit. I get up from the table. 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: I go to the payphone. I call casting as system 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: picks up. His name was Scott Jenkinsjer and he's like, Adam, 357 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: are you available to come in to read for Steven tomorrow? 358 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, of course I'll be there. 359 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: Now, you have a fax machine because we're going to 360 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: send your Yeah, yeah, no. 361 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: I had the scenes. It was the same It was 362 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: the same scenes, same scene right. Luckily because for the 363 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: ten days, bro I was going over that scene every 364 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: single day, one hundred times a day. I was reliving 365 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: my chance, you know what I mean. It was like 366 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: I was reliving it because I thought I blew it. 367 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I would have done this anyway. 368 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Your chance is actually now coming tomorrow. So I got 369 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: to go the next day, man, And it was the 370 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: first time I auditioned. There were a lot of people 371 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: at this time there were less and maybe like it 372 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: was down to like fifteen twenty people. Maybe when I 373 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: got there. 374 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: You recognize anyone that was in the room. 375 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: I feel like nobody that I knew well at the time, 376 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: but I feel like Yancey Arias was there. Yancey is 377 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: the one that comes to mind when I think if 378 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: there were any familiar faces, but Yancey and I would 379 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: run into each other. I'd see him a commercial auditions 380 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: and stuff in New York. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yancey 381 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: comes up. Yancey comes to mind. I don't remember who 382 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: else maybe, but I go in. It's my turn, and 383 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: I just felt so prepared, like I already felt like 384 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: I had lost. So I was like, fuck it, man, 385 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: like I just let go and. 386 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: You quite literally lost it once. So this is just 387 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: like gravy yep. 388 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: Scene, And I mean I got applause at the end. 389 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: People in the room were like, wow, that was great, 390 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: and I just felt I was beaming inside because all 391 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to do was make a good impression, you 392 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean? So I walked out. What was 393 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: the scene? 394 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Like, what was the scene that you had to perform? 395 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I don't even remember, now, okay for the cop. 396 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: You were playing a cop? I was playing a cop. 397 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: There was an exchange with somebody, you know it. I 398 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: don't remember. I don't. I wish I could. Actually, I 399 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: would have walked out feeling like I walked out on 400 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: a high. 401 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Even if I don't get it, I left it there. 402 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: I left an impression. I left an impression in that room, 403 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: Like I know, I didn't let build down because that 404 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: was my main thing. Like I didn't want to leave 405 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: these people that gave me a chance, that opened the door. 406 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: I didn't want to. I didn't want to let them 407 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: down on it, you know. So I felt like Bill 408 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: and David at least like I got my respect, you know, 409 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: like they didn't look foolish for bringing me in. So 410 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: I walked out, and I'm like, man, I remember going 411 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: to the bathroom, splashing some water on my face, smiling 412 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: like you feel good? I feel good now, I'm like 413 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: walking out and I'm leaving the building and the casting 414 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: system comes outside and say hey, Adam, Adam come back 415 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: and calls me back in. 416 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't ever come back again. 417 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: They weren't clapping because you were done, so like, okay, 418 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: well good luck. First of all, this is what you 419 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: call us. 420 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 3: You're describing like the best standing to a romantic movie ever, right, 421 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: like them guns and direct him. So hey Adam, wait, 422 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: come wait. 423 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Wait I stopped my checks. I'm like, oh, right, because 424 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: I got paused the pushing with the guy behind it. 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: You have that moment then turn around like yeah, you know, 426 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 2: brings me back in the office. He's like, just wait here. 427 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: You ever come here again? 428 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 2: Yo? You left your water whatever, you left your water again. Yes, 429 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: we're going to do you a favorite. We're not going 430 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: to tell any other time about this audition. So only 431 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: because you're a friend. 432 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't clean up after yourself. 433 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: You don't ever leave an audition without taking yourself. Clearly 434 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: you're a rookie. She comes out, She goes, Adam, it 435 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: was a guy because Scott the same guy that he 436 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: comes out. He comes out, he brings me back in 437 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: the office of a woman named Junie Lowry Johnson, who 438 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: was the casting director. A minute or two goes by. 439 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: She walks in and she looks at him. They look 440 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: at each other and they're like, you got the job. 441 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god. 442 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: I say he told you there that day. 443 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, I'm like, I don't know 444 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: what to do. Man. I'm like, oh my god, this 445 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: is crazy. You know, I can feel it now. And 446 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, thank you, thank you, you know, and I 447 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: leave and I run to the first pay phone. I 448 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: call my mom. She's at work, you asking what my 449 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: father did for lifing. My mother worked for the United 450 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: Airlines for like thirty plus years, and she was the 451 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: ticket agent at like an off site ticket office. So 452 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: if you wanted to buy a ticket for United, you 453 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: would go to these offices and purchase the ticket there. 454 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: And she did that. I called her up and I 455 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: was like, hey, Ma. She's like, hey, what's up, Mama. 456 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: My work. I'm like, all right, you got a long line. 457 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: She was like yeah, it's crowded and a lot of 458 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: people here. I'm like great, perfect, because I was like, 459 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, I want to see what her reaction was 460 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: going to be in front of all these people, and 461 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 2: it was on the other line, and I was like, 462 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: I got it. I got my first show, Mom, I 463 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: got I got on this show, you know. And she 464 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. You know she was happy. 465 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: Of course in the moment. I don't think she understood. 466 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: I always think we're doing you know so, But man, 467 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: I'll never forget being on that love that lot. Every 468 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: time I go to that lot, like it's just special 469 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: to me for that reason. Fox. Yeah, and so I Man, 470 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: I hang up the phone and I was like, man, 471 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: this is it, Like, you know, I got a job on, 472 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: like a series regular on a show. 473 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: And this show had been already Greenland show had already 474 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: been green because it was Stephen Botschko at that time, 475 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: it was twenty two on the air. 476 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: He was dumb, man, you know, he was remember remember 477 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: when you Taylor Sheridan. Yeah, I remember when I got paid. Man. 478 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: I remember doing the pilot, and I remember riding because 479 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: this is funny too. We shot in New York. Uh 480 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: and I am on the plane with uh. What was 481 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: that conversation. I had a conversation with somebody and they 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: were telling me like, oh, you're gonna make like twenty 483 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: five grand an episode or whatever at that time, you're 484 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: kidding me. I was like, usually I made ten thousand 485 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: for No No, and so I was thinking twenty five. 486 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: It turned out when it came down to the negotiation, 487 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: I made six grand an episode. 488 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, that's that's before agent. 489 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: Fees and all I had no agent. I got this 490 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: with no agent. 491 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like, you mean like six take home 492 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: or like six was the number? 493 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: Six was the number? Six was the neighbor? Yeah, but 494 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: I had no agent, so all I had to do 495 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: was pay tax, you know, which, look at that time, 496 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: no shit, twenty two episodes making over six figures at 497 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: that time was like yeah, crazy, you were like six 498 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: g I was like what I mean? You know, I 499 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: mean it was a slightly disappointing just because Bill called 500 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: me the contract. The whole negotiation with Bill basically said, look, 501 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: they're going to call you. The number is going to 502 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: be low. But I didn't know. He was like, but 503 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: you just take what it is, yes, because again it 504 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: was like getting on a Stephen Botchko pilot at that 505 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: time was also a big deal because it was like 506 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, being on an Alan Ball Show. 507 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: Later on. You know what I mean, they had prestige, 508 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: there was there was like something to it. 509 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: So so questions. So you haven't said the name of 510 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: the show. 511 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it's called Brooklyn South. 512 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: Brooklyn South. 513 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: It was called Brooklyn South. 514 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're na by night it was it on. 515 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: It was on Monday nights at ten o'clock. It was 516 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: the first primetime show to ever get a TV m 517 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: A rating. Wow. Yeah, because the guy's head gets blown off. 518 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: Pieces fall show. It was a fall show. No, no, 519 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: it was a fall show. It was like the crown 520 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: jewel of CBS's lineup that year, that Monday night Slide 521 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: at ten o'clock was there. That was their premos. 522 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: How long you've been working with CBS? 523 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? What wait? What year was that? What year? Nineteen 524 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: ninety seven? 525 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: So you've been at CBS since ninety seven? 526 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: That was nineteen ninety seven. 527 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: They've been good to you, man. 528 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, all of it. You know, you realize like, yeah, 529 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: you know they you learn a lot. 530 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Man, you know, how many seasons do you do there? 531 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: So we only did one season and then the show 532 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: got canceled. 533 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: And then and then you and then Wendy you snatch 534 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: up is at Miami. So that would that be your 535 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: next big break? 536 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: I would, I mean big break. Yeah. But the next 537 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: thing that really kept me going was then iron Spelling 538 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: show in Between, and then I did and then I 539 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: did as it was called All Souls. It was it 540 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: was actually also All Souls. It was very cool shows. 541 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: It was it's kind of ahead of its time. Actually 542 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: it was a guy named Mark Frost that was one 543 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: of David Lynch's partners on Twin Peaks, had broken off 544 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: and created this show called All Souls and then it 545 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: aired on UPN and it just wasn't It wasn't right 546 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 2: for the network. And the show was kind of even 547 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: ahead of its time. It was about a haunted hospital 548 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: and it was really cool and it was really show. 549 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: But what did makes sense? It didn't exist yet. So 550 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: I lived in Montreal and I shot that, you know, 551 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: over the course of a year on and off or 552 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: ten months whatever it was. But then the next break 553 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 2: really was a show called Roswell, and I did the 554 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: third season of Roswell. 555 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: I remember when you had. 556 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: Catherine Heigel was my uh played my wife. 557 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I remember rosswell super well. I remember when 558 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: he started because I was friends for half of that cast. 559 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were good. 560 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: Be Brandon were redon. 561 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: Fair was on it, Jason Bear, Nick Weschler. Mahandra is 562 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: still a friend love Mahandra Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Mahandra's great. 563 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: I actually the her and Brandan have a podcast that 564 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: I did at some time in the last day. 565 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: Very hits me up occasionally. 566 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, we do we got man, sweet guy. 567 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was like it was like the rise 568 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: of w B Yes, right, Dawson's Creek and then they 569 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: started this this thing and then Roswell was that first. 570 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: Like can we do a show up by Aliens? 571 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, around the X Files years and all that stuff. 572 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: And then I think it was what year was that 573 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: that show? 574 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: I joined that show two two thousand and one, so 575 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: then that show started ninety nine would have been the 576 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: first year I think for that show in ninety nine. 577 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: So those guys. 578 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: Excuse so I just that seventy show in ninety eight. 579 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you did is 580 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: that ninety eight that you started the Yeah that's Fall 581 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: of ninety eight premiere Fall of ninety eight. 582 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, damn yeah, So I remember bab Yeah, it 583 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: was so crazy, But that's insane. 584 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: So Roswell was big games kept the ball moving, thank god, 585 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: because because I had I had bought my my my 586 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: first place, and I was like, man, I bought my 587 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: first place, had like two months of mortgage left in 588 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: the bank and counting on that Aaron Spelling Show and 589 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: then it got canceled, paying six grand though, and then freaking, 590 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: and then Roswell hit and kept me going, man. And 591 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: then when Roswell ended CSI, Miami came along and then 592 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: that was you know, that was really that took things 593 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: to another day. 594 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: How many how many seasons did you do? 595 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: We did ten seasons of cs and you were doing 596 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: twenty We did, I mean, depending most seasons, I would 597 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: say we did twenty two, twenty three. Couple one season 598 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: we did like twenty five or twenty six one year, 599 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: but I would say, yeah, average, we did twenty two. 600 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: And it was one of those shows that really pop culturally, 601 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: elevated what procedure was What's gonna be? 602 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: And the location was so sexy and the cast. 603 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Was so bad, really set it apart. There was nothing 604 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: on TV. Yeah, we kind of you know, the original 605 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: the original CSI, I would say, you know, added something 606 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: to procedurals that hadn't existed, which is you know, shooting 607 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: those those those micro shots where they're like, you know, 608 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: get inside someensics. Part of it really like giving people 609 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: a visual. 610 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Which was which just turns out the proof. 611 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: Which was amazing, right, But then Miami ratcheted it up 612 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: another level because it was such a beautiful backdrop for 613 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: the show. So now you had the you know, the 614 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: the intricate technical shots that were interesting visually, but then 615 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: set on top of this beautiful canvas that was Miami 616 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: with the with the beautiful orange and that the pink. 617 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Over to breako the Fancis Hearts. 618 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: It actually didn't shoot in Miami, shooted in Los Angeles. 619 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: We would go to Miami. The first five seasons, you 620 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: would go to Miami for some exterior Yeah, probably like 621 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: three times a year we would go to MIAMIB four. 622 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: We'd go down there for like some anywhere between eight 623 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: to twelve days, fourteen days, get exterior shots and shoot 624 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: some stuff right there and then come back to LA 625 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: And then I mean that was that was like. 626 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: Such an iconic role for you, you know, and yeah, 627 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: so cuside Miami was a moment and he started like 628 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: it put you in in household. 629 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: Numbers, Yeah, for sure. 630 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: What was your average ratings on that? 631 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh man, those days. 632 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: You were probably averaging what seventeen. 633 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: MILLI easy, I want to say, in the early days, 634 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: we were probably up to twenty two, twenty three, twenty 635 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: ten million. Yes, and like those pre pre DVR, Yeah, 636 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: those numbers, we were still posting those kind of how 637 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: rad is. 638 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: There for us to have a Latino on primetime hitting 639 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: twenty two million people a week and then saying like, 640 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: oh man, he's not only the he's not only the 641 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: young guy in there, but he's also like a badass 642 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: bro like you were killing it and making us all 643 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: little what. 644 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: I wish man? And you know, you grow older and 645 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: you look back on things with different perspectives, and I 646 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: wish that I would have understood the gravity of that 647 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: at the time. You know, you know, you're on a 648 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: big show and that feels good, but it's really only 649 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: with with time and distance, maturity, perspective, whatever you want 650 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: to say. It is like that you look back on 651 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: and go like, oh man, the magnitude I understand maybe 652 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: more now what that must have represented, you know, in 653 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: that moment, and what a great opportunity. 654 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: We were all trying to keep the light on at 655 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: that point, you know, and I think the most in 656 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: that time, we don't understand the gravity when we do 657 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: the math of what pop culturally and culturally how it 658 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: kind of elevated the values of who we were on screen. 659 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: Yes, and what it's led to, Adam, And and you've 660 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: continued to be a Latino leading man, and you've done 661 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: wonderful work since, whether it's magic mic, whether it is 662 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: criminal minds, whether whether it is all the stuff that critical. 663 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: Minds are available in paramount plus. Right now, that's. 664 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: Right, man, And I mean you're you're you're the guy 665 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 4: that Latino actors are looking at going like I grew 666 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: up watching that. 667 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: They're also time like we need like an Adam Rodriguez type. 668 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully that's a I always feel like that's a 669 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: dangerous thing because I'm like, well, is available, probably have 670 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: a thing that's what you want. But right, yeah, but 671 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: that's what you know. 672 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: But that's one of the reasons why we wanted to 673 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 4: have you here, man, give you your flowers, and for 674 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: you to understand how important you've been for Latino culture, 675 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: for our industry. And and we're just so thrilled that 676 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: you're here to call you a friend, and and they're 677 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: very proud of the of the career that you've crafted. 678 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: And what a beautiful thing right for us to have 679 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: grown up together in business, right, and and to have 680 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, been fortunate enough to pave the paths that 681 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: we've paved, and and to still be here and still 682 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: be able to do something we love and to have 683 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: success at it, and and to be able to sit 684 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: around and talk about that journey is you know, uh man, 685 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: in a way, it's like it's a dream come true 686 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: or a dream you could never adam that you could have, 687 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: that you could have, you know. 688 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: And so but look, we got to have you back 689 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: again because obviously, you know, we got to start doing 690 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: four parts there. 691 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got We didn't even discratch the surface, 692 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: and I'm talking about it in all the amount of 693 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: stories we could sit around and yeah, crazy, crazy, we. 694 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Didn't we have the leather pants conversation. 695 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't talk about adult shape. 696 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: We didn't talk about meeting each other at that audition 697 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: yeah party by yeah, yeah, you. 698 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: All can attest by this episode, you're going to see 699 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 3: more about the Rodriguez next season for sure, But but 700 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't thank you so much for being podcasts. 701 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: No. 702 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, man, it's you know, we we waited for. 703 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: You know, this is hopefully a big season final, We'll hopefully, 704 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: but but yeah, but dude, thank you, thank you so 705 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: much for being part of this thing for us. It's 706 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: a very special podcast for us because we only want 707 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: to to people that kind of have changes and you know, 708 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: contributed and not only pop culture, but for for you know, 709 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: for us, for for for all of our brown brothers 710 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: and sisters. You know, so so thank you for being Sahiro. 711 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm Wilmer Valdorama' Freddie Rodriguez and this is Amigos. 712 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: Dose Amigos is a production from w V Sound and 713 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: iHeartMedia's Michael through That Podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie 714 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 4: Rodriguez and Wilmer Valdorama. 715 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos. 716 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson, 717 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 4: and Leo Klem at w V Sound. 718 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 3: This episode was shot and eded it by Ryan Posts 719 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by 720 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 3: Madison Devenport and Helo boy Our. 721 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: Cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed by 722 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: Deny Holtz Clau. 723 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: And thank you for being at Third Amigo today. 724 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys always listening to those amigos. 725 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: More podcasts from my Heart, visit the our Heart radio app, 726 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 4: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 727 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: See you next week.