Speaker 1: Hi be Hi, Elliott, you're ready for our show today
Speaker 1: about the former Queen of France, Marie Antoinette and Indian
Speaker 1: independence hero Gandhi. I sure, am me too, high five?
Speaker 1: Uh okay, it's before noon, but I guess I could
Speaker 1: allow for a high five earlier than usual today. Uh be,
Speaker 1: you can let go of my hand now. High fives
Speaker 1: are not usually this long. It's turning into a high fifteen. Well, Elliott,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just thinking about the difference between
Speaker 1: Marie Antoinette and Gandhi. And Marie Antoinette was famously out
Speaker 1: of touch with the people, but Gandhi was incredibly in
Speaker 1: touch with the people. Okay, And I just think I
Speaker 1: should make more of an effort to be in touch
Speaker 1: with the people, you know, and by the people you
Speaker 1: mean me. Yeah, so I figured let's do this whole
Speaker 1: episode holding hands. That should put me more in touch
Speaker 1: with Oh b how did you manage to sneeze it
Speaker 1: to my hand? Yours was right there? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I gotta war you. I think I'm allergic to
Speaker 1: your perfume. It's O dependcil shavings. So that was the
Speaker 1: first of many, many, many sneezes. Eric quick play the
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Speaker 1: Today we're learning about who was Gandhi and who was
Speaker 1: Marie Antoinette. But before we learn about them, let's learn
Speaker 1: about our contestants, all right. First up, we've got Alexandra. Alexandra,
Speaker 1: please introduce yourself. Hi. I'm Alexandra And a fun fact
Speaker 1: about myself is that I do competition chere, competitions here.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Um, so tell us what's the coolest
Speaker 1: thing that you can do in a in a cheer routine?
Speaker 1: Like do you do back flips? Are you on pblic pyramid?
Speaker 1: Are you on the bottom of the pyramid to ride
Speaker 1: a tie her? Do you write a tighter? Are you
Speaker 1: the mascot? And I can do a backhandspers? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic. And how long have you been part
Speaker 1: of competition cheering? This will be my seven Pierre? Wow? Wow,
Speaker 1: So you're an expert at cheering. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever done anything for that many years. I'm so impressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing and with us.
Speaker 1: Today we also have Harper. Harper, please introduce yourself. Hi
Speaker 1: on Harper, And I'm a ton and I Rother lied
Speaker 1: he is ordering me by tunn. Oh my goodness. Now
Speaker 1: this is also very exciting because as you may or
Speaker 1: may not know Elliott is also a twin. M I
Speaker 1: have a twin sister. I'm older than her by one minute,
Speaker 1: and I constantly just lord it over her and she's like,
Speaker 1: I think this, and I'm like, well, as your older brother,
Speaker 1: I think that. So is that is that similar to
Speaker 1: what happens in your house? Yeah? Now people ask me
Speaker 1: all the time. They always say, can you read your
Speaker 1: sister's mind? And I say no, I can't, But it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder is that something other twins can do?
Speaker 1: Can you read each other's minds? If you could read
Speaker 1: If you could read minds, probably you'd probably learn all
Speaker 1: sorts of things you didn't want to know in the
Speaker 1: first place. Yeah, that's true. That's how are you got
Speaker 1: to be careful with? Well? Thank you both so much
Speaker 1: for sharing, and thank you for being on the show today.
Speaker 1: And thank you to Eric, our musician, for providing that
Speaker 1: lovely Meet the Contestants music and all the music on
Speaker 1: the show today. So that's who is. Now Let's find
Speaker 1: out who was Gandhi with four fast facts. Mahandas Gandhi
Speaker 1: was born in eighteen sixty nine and died in nine
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty seven after thirty three years of work,
Speaker 1: Gandhi helped India achieve independence from British rule through non
Speaker 1: violent protests. Gandhi was among the first Indian leaders to
Speaker 1: empower small villages and farmers in India to for Indian
Speaker 1: self reliance and separation from foreign rule. Gandhi's philosophy of
Speaker 1: civil disobedience and non violent protest and fighting without fighting
Speaker 1: has had a lasting effect on social justice movements and
Speaker 1: inspired civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. So
Speaker 1: we were wondering, Gandhi is such uh an inspirational protest figure.
Speaker 1: He was all about protests and things like that. Have
Speaker 1: either of you ever protested anything? It could be something
Speaker 1: as big as I don't like this what the country
Speaker 1: is doing, and as little as I don't want to
Speaker 1: eat my vegetables. Have you ever been in a protest
Speaker 1: of any kind at home or somewhere else? Um, I've
Speaker 1: been in some like just small like disagreements. My brother
Speaker 1: likes to comutch Go go pops Like I always say
Speaker 1: that there's there's not really any meaning to them because
Speaker 1: he buys them and he just lets them correct us.
Speaker 1: When he wasn't really like use them. He was trying
Speaker 1: to gaming computer, and he out of the trist Us
Speaker 1: all up, and if he were to like sell all
Speaker 1: his Pho Pops, he would be able to get his
Speaker 1: gaming computer. And that's like something, Wow, Well you have
Speaker 1: convinced me I'm on your side, Harper. Yeah, you've convinced
Speaker 1: me to sell all my funk Pop figures just by
Speaker 1: a gaming computer. This is a successful protest that you
Speaker 1: just had right now, you changed one big mind, Alexander.
Speaker 1: What about you. Have you ever protested anything or just
Speaker 1: had a really strong disagreement when you had to take
Speaker 1: a stand. Yeah? Really not really, Okay, but you know
Speaker 1: what I will say when the time comes, if you
Speaker 1: ever decided to protest something, you were going to be
Speaker 1: so ready because so much about protesting has so much
Speaker 1: crossover with cheering. Yeah, a lot of times you have
Speaker 1: to build signs up. You have to be on your
Speaker 1: feet and um saying things very loudly. You got to
Speaker 1: project your voice. Yeah. I think your cheer career will
Speaker 1: really help you in the future if and when you
Speaker 1: decide to protest something. Yeah. There have been words that
Speaker 1: were ended because of back hand springs. So they never
Speaker 1: underestimate the power of gear it's a very powerful corse. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The word of eteen twelve, Yeah, every yeah, thankfully brought
Speaker 1: to an end by that head back industry. Now, please
Speaker 1: don't protest me when I say that we should move
Speaker 1: on to our first game about Gandhi. It's called true
Speaker 1: or false. False, just a false. It's a false or
Speaker 1: is a true? It is a truth that has false?
Speaker 1: Is it false that it was true? Or true? True
Speaker 1: or false. Here's how this game works. Be will read
Speaker 1: a statement and you'll tell us if that statement is
Speaker 1: true or you probably guessed it false the other the
Speaker 1: other options false. And since it's our first game, each
Speaker 1: question is worth one point. Alexandra, you'll be going first.
Speaker 1: True or false. Gandhi did not eat meat until he
Speaker 1: was a teenager. That's right, the answer is true. Gandhi's religion, Hinduism,
Speaker 1: played a large part in shaping his life. His family's
Speaker 1: traditional Hindu customs included not eating meat. In high school,
Speaker 1: a friend told him eating me would help him become
Speaker 1: his fears. But when he tried it and only made
Speaker 1: him sick and gave him nightmares or what I would
Speaker 1: call meet mayores. You can use not get something as
Speaker 1: Gady mcganshan saying eatmares. If you eat meet Makusa nightmares Anyway.
Speaker 1: When he got older, he moved to London and joined
Speaker 1: the London Vegetarian Society. All you have to do to
Speaker 1: become a member is finished that last fight or broadly
Speaker 1: on your plate harbor you get the next statement true
Speaker 1: or false. Th Gandhi was from India. An incident in
Speaker 1: South Africa sparked his journey for the rights of Indian people. True. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true, say it, say it loudly and and
Speaker 1: uh and confidently, because you're right the answer is true.
Speaker 1: As a young lawyer, Gandhi moved to South Africa and
Speaker 1: purchased a first class train ticket for travel, but a
Speaker 1: European passenger got a police officer to kick Gandhi off
Speaker 1: the train for being India, despite Gandhi showing his first
Speaker 1: class ticket. This was the seed of Gandhi becoming an activist.
Speaker 1: He wanted to organize and fight for the equality of
Speaker 1: Indian people living in South Africa, who at the time
Speaker 1: could not vote mary or even walk legally on public footpaths. Alexandra,
Speaker 1: back to you pure false. Before Luke Skywalker used the force,
Speaker 1: Gandhi used truth force a philosophy that guided his approach
Speaker 1: to life. True that's right, that is truth force. He
Speaker 1: called his life philosophy Sacha Raja, which translates to truth
Speaker 1: force or holding to truth, and became a weapon quote
Speaker 1: not a real weapon used against unfair treatment of the
Speaker 1: Indian population. It includes ideas about non violent ways of
Speaker 1: breaking unjust laws, non violence against all people, and non possession,
Speaker 1: living simply with few possessions and using only what one needs.
Speaker 1: And the next question is for harbor, ture or false.
Speaker 1: You always hear the word fast when people talk about
Speaker 1: Gandhi because this guy was not only a spiritual leader,
Speaker 1: but a leader on the track. He won a gold
Speaker 1: medal for India in the nineteen twenty Antwerp O Limbics. False.
Speaker 1: You're right, that is total eight falls. Gandhi's fast had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his running speed. Gandhi would refuse
Speaker 1: to eat food as a way of protesting. He had
Speaker 1: many fasts over his life, including a three week hunger
Speaker 1: strike to get the Hindu and Muslim people in India
Speaker 1: to stop fighting and start speaking to each other. The
Speaker 1: two groups came together peacefully to stop his fasting. They
Speaker 1: didn't want Gandhi to suffer anymore, and you don't have
Speaker 1: to suffer anymore because this game is over. True true,
Speaker 1: true true. Okay, let's see where we are after our
Speaker 1: first game with producer Jane and the truth force of
Speaker 1: the scores. Well, Elliott and I don't mind telling you
Speaker 1: that their Gandhi knowledge is incredible. They both have two points, terrific,
Speaker 1: We're both of you. It's a tie game. We're going
Speaker 1: to take a quick break, then we'll be back with
Speaker 1: more games. Eric, please play us some such a graja music?
Speaker 1: Why do you got to be such a Welcome back
Speaker 1: to who podcast? Today, we're looking at two people who
Speaker 1: had very different ideas about what it means to add blacks.
Speaker 1: It's who was Gandhi and who was Marie Antoinette? And
Speaker 1: now back to your host, Elliot Kalin. Thank you be.
Speaker 1: Now let's find out more about who was Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: with four fast facts fastinas. Marie Antoinette was born in
Speaker 1: seventeen fifty five and died in seventeen nine. Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: became Queen of France while still just a teenager. The
Speaker 1: common people of France came to see Marie Antoinette's luxurious
Speaker 1: life as a symbol of all that was wrong with France,
Speaker 1: and so at the start of the French Revolution, Marie
Speaker 1: Antoinette and her husband, the King were thrown in jail
Speaker 1: and executed by guillotine fast. So now I'm curious. So
Speaker 1: Marie Antoinette grew up parole life as a as a
Speaker 1: royal person, and I wonder with our content questions, if
Speaker 1: you were like queen for a day, queen or king
Speaker 1: for a day, what would you do? What would you
Speaker 1: want to do like as a as a royal person, Alexandra,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Um? I would want to make
Speaker 1: the world a better place. That's really nice. Yeah, Harper,
Speaker 1: what about you? I mean I would kind of bragg
Speaker 1: about as to my brother because he's always he's always
Speaker 1: saying that he's like, I'm not the ruler, but he's
Speaker 1: older and he's ragging about it. So I like that
Speaker 1: without the two the two sides of being a royal
Speaker 1: you have the power to make the world a better place,
Speaker 1: and you also have the power to totally rub it
Speaker 1: your brother's face that you're in charge if he's not.
Speaker 1: I'd probably go somewhere in the middle. I'd probably make
Speaker 1: us thrown out of chocolate and anita. Oh wow, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Um, I would probably, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: really just go horseback riding. That seems like something that
Speaker 1: royal people do, and uh, I don't really get to
Speaker 1: do it. So I'm gonna go horseback riding through a
Speaker 1: beautiful field. That sounds great. I'm gonna change my answer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a horse made at a chocolate that
Speaker 1: I'll stilly down. Oh but you'll eat it? Will you
Speaker 1: ride the chocolate? Of course? For sure. First, I mean
Speaker 1: it'll have to that my courtiers who who served me.
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll have to put it on like
Speaker 1: a wagon, and then I'll sit on it on a wagon.
Speaker 1: I'll pretend the horses alive. But then I'll just take
Speaker 1: bites out of its main and its ears, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's made at a chocolate. Uh. I don't know
Speaker 1: why a king has never thought of doing this before,
Speaker 1: because it's a pretty fantastic thing to do. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty bad yeah. I mean, your clothes will get dirty
Speaker 1: because you're sitting on a chocolate horse that's probably melting,
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, but then but then someone else
Speaker 1: washes them. It's not your problem. Exactly right. I'm the king.
Speaker 1: I don't do law on trade anymore. This is great,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the best day of my life. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: you too. I think would be great monarchs. But let's
Speaker 1: get on to our next game about a real life monarch.
Speaker 1: That's right, breach one we've been talking about. It's called
Speaker 1: hashtag history. Hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag hashtag history. Okay,
Speaker 1: contestants in this game, B will read you a hashtag
Speaker 1: our teen Queen Marie Antoinette might use on her social
Speaker 1: media if social media had been a thing in the
Speaker 1: eighteenth century in France, and you will tell us what
Speaker 1: is she talking about? And since this is our second round,
Speaker 1: each question is worth two points. B. If you would harper,
Speaker 1: this first hashtag is for you and it says hashtag
Speaker 1: mom boss. Why would Marie use this? Is it because
Speaker 1: a Marie's mother had a lot of power or be
Speaker 1: Marie wrote a play called mom Boss that she performed
Speaker 1: at court. That's right. The answer is a. Although I
Speaker 1: would love to see that play. Marie's mother, Maria Theresa,
Speaker 1: was the Empress of Austria and had big plans for
Speaker 1: expanding her family's power in Europe. Austria and France had
Speaker 1: been enemies in the past, but we're on good terms.
Speaker 1: When Marie Antoinette was born, Maria the mother thought the
Speaker 1: best way to keep the peace was to have her
Speaker 1: daughter marry the future King of France. Maria would continue
Speaker 1: to be a driving force throughout Marie Antoinette's life and
Speaker 1: try to shape how Marie Antoinette lived. Okay, The next
Speaker 1: hashtag is for Alexandra. The next hashtag is hashtag feeling seen.
Speaker 1: Would Marie use this hashtag because a there were security
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere in the palace or be the public could
Speaker 1: watch her get ready in the morning. The answer is be,
Speaker 1: You're right. After Marie Antoinette moved to the Royal Palace
Speaker 1: at Versailles, every morning people could watch her get ready
Speaker 1: in a ceremony called le lavay that means to get up.
Speaker 1: The lava was like a tourist attraction. She was then
Speaker 1: pretty much on display for the public when she went
Speaker 1: to Mass and had her meals until she went to
Speaker 1: bed around eleven PM in a ceremony known as the
Speaker 1: cuche LaVey cuche oive. That's a lot of time in
Speaker 1: the public eye. Next hashtag Please all right, here's your hashtag,
Speaker 1: harper It's hashtag sus song. Would Marie Antoinette use this
Speaker 1: because a other noble people at fort made up a
Speaker 1: rude song about Marie Antoinette. Or b it's a song
Speaker 1: is actually the name of Marie Antoinette's favorite puppy. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. The answer is a. After Louis and Marie
Speaker 1: officially became King and Queen of France, a lot of
Speaker 1: French nobles did not like the way Marie behaved. They
Speaker 1: thought she was spending too much money and not taking
Speaker 1: her job seriously enough. They made up a song about
Speaker 1: her that said, you've given offensive plenty, little queen of
Speaker 1: only twenty, You'll go home to Austria. Fala la la
Speaker 1: fala falal. I think they had trouble coming off with
Speaker 1: a rhyme for Austria, but still rude. No word if
Speaker 1: Marie ever wrote a clapback song. The next question is
Speaker 1: for Alexandra. Our last hashtag is hashtag not me saying
Speaker 1: let them eat cake. Would Marie Antoinette use this hashtag
Speaker 1: because A she was gluten free and cake has a
Speaker 1: lot of gluten, or be she didn't actually say let
Speaker 1: them eat cake, even though many people thought she did.
Speaker 1: B that's right. The answer is be the King of
Speaker 1: France gave money to help the American Revolutionary War, which
Speaker 1: put a huge strain on the economy and the people
Speaker 1: of France. Someone started a rumor that when Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: heard people were hungry for bread, she cluelessly said let
Speaker 1: them eat cake. She didn't actually say this, but people
Speaker 1: believed she did because they felt the queen was out
Speaker 1: of touch with the problems of regular French citizens as
Speaker 1: she lived behind the gilded walls of her sille. And
Speaker 1: we're verse signing off of this game hashtag hashtag bonjeous
Speaker 1: monsieur elliott a mademoiselle b Marie Antoinette. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: I here thanks to the UA's up. Who was wanderings?
Speaker 1: Oh to what do we owe this visit? Well, you
Speaker 1: work in entertainment, yes, and I assume you have how
Speaker 1: you say, rap parties? So I brought you some of
Speaker 1: my desert to consider for your next event. These petty
Speaker 1: force are divine, as is this chocolate. Declaire mercio, we
Speaker 1: are you say, love to see it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: ironic that you started a career as a baker with
Speaker 1: the whole let them eat cake thing. Ah, yes, even
Speaker 1: though I never said this, we know that now, Your majesty, please,
Speaker 1: Your majesty is my Moselle's name called me, your highness,
Speaker 1: Your highness. Do you know how that let the meat
Speaker 1: cake story even got started? Like good and covert? Is
Speaker 1: that a hundred years before I was Queen of France?
Speaker 1: The Queen of France said something similar. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: being followed your whole life and beyond by something Your
Speaker 1: husband's grandmason maybe said, yes, what I'm an impact? Hello?
Speaker 1: You know we fold this rumor destroy my I thought
Speaker 1: the rumors from the court members at Versailles were going
Speaker 1: to be the end of me. Life at first side
Speaker 1: was very stressful from what especially before I gave up
Speaker 1: to my son, there was so much pressure to have
Speaker 1: a male child. You think gender revealed parties a wild
Speaker 1: now they had nothing on monarchies? Is that as in
Speaker 1: that sounds stressful? Or the show a la creme is delicious?
Speaker 1: Both Mary and I also wonder how much of me
Speaker 1: being an outsider the people of France to blaming me
Speaker 1: for all of their troubles. We I spent lavishly and foolishly,
Speaker 1: and people had a right to be angry. But my
Speaker 1: husband spent even more how you say foolish leer than me?
Speaker 1: Unt he had political power to change things and he
Speaker 1: did not. But are there rumors about him saying such
Speaker 1: insensitive gags things? No, as in painformery and this thirteen
Speaker 1: is magnificent, not that painful as a guilty into the neck,
Speaker 1: but it's tongue. But I have decided to Are you say,
Speaker 1: reclaim some stuff from my past? You say, Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: talks about gate. Marie Antoinette will make Cake become very
Speaker 1: successful and become friends with Guy Fieri in the future.
Speaker 1: Who can say? And speaking of futures, let us discuss
Speaker 1: our of youtub We do you think you would like
Speaker 1: to eye Marie for your party? Dessert needs absolutely? Are
Speaker 1: you available next Sunday? I'll need three plumb tarts, a
Speaker 1: prem berlay, seventeen petty foce and it's to fly in
Speaker 1: the shape of a castle, but it needs to have
Speaker 1: a real working drawbridge over a moat made of moose.
Speaker 1: We I am familiar. Hello, what is this event? May
Speaker 1: I ask? Sunday? Like I said, ah B has a
Speaker 1: notorious sweet tooth. I see well, no joge more from Marie.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the business. In fact, better get started on
Speaker 1: this order, Abiental, Thank you your highness, and thank you
Speaker 1: who was that? We're just about to find out the
Speaker 1: scores and play our final game after this break, Eric,
Speaker 1: would you please play us some profederal music full of gluten? Hey?
Speaker 1: Who was hers? I want to share a fun fact
Speaker 1: we missed. Do you have an idea for an episode?
Speaker 1: I want to explain bitcoin to me. What I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is we want to hear from you, so
Speaker 1: send us an email or voice memo at the Who
Speaker 1: Was podcast at gmail dot com. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Who Was Podcasts. Today we're talking about Bandi and Marie
Speaker 1: Antoinette and now back to your host, Hellia Allen. Thank
Speaker 1: you Bee. We've got a heck of a game going,
Speaker 1: so without further ado, let's go to producer Jane, who
Speaker 1: has the verse scores. Elliott, I'd love to say that
Speaker 1: the scores are very truly idea cool, but I can't
Speaker 1: because they are identical. They each have six points. It's
Speaker 1: what the French call let tie for Now, Nursie Jane.
Speaker 1: Now we're going into our exciting final game. It's called
Speaker 1: Backpack from the Past from the Best Baby. In this game,
Speaker 1: we have a backpack contains some of Gandhi's personal objects
Speaker 1: and some of Marie Antoinette's personal objects. I guess they
Speaker 1: shared a backpack. Will describe those objects for our contestants
Speaker 1: and the listeners at home. And because this is our
Speaker 1: third game, is worth three points for each question. Contestants,
Speaker 1: you will tell us which object belongs to which person. Alexandra,
Speaker 1: You've got the first object. Oh my goodness, it's a
Speaker 1: giant sail boat. Well a ship. Really? Who does this
Speaker 1: ship most likely belong to? Is it a Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: who once used a boat as an accessory in her way,
Speaker 1: or be Gandhi because after his train incident he decided
Speaker 1: to only travel by boat, even on land. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: the answer is a French. Nobles commonly wore wigs as
Speaker 1: a sign of their high position. Marie took wigs to
Speaker 1: the next level. Some held scenes of nature with tiny
Speaker 1: figures of animals. Some had moving parts like flapping birds.
Speaker 1: After a French victory at sea against the British, Marie
Speaker 1: wore a model of a ship in her hair. Now
Speaker 1: I prefer to painstakingly build my ships in a bottle.
Speaker 1: But that's between me and my Saturday night Harper. Your
Speaker 1: object is up to next? Oh, okay, it's a salt shaker.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I brought popcorn for lunch. But who
Speaker 1: would have this salt shaker in their backpack? A Gandhi
Speaker 1: as rebellion against the Salt Act laws? Who were be
Speaker 1: Marie Joinette because she never thought the palace chef seasoned
Speaker 1: food enough. That's right, The answer is a The Salt
Speaker 1: Act laws stated that Indian people could not gather, make,
Speaker 1: or sell their own salt. They had to buy it
Speaker 1: from the British. Gandhi led thousands of people on a
Speaker 1: protest march known as the Salt March. The two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine mile march ended in the coastal town
Speaker 1: of Dandhi. Gandhi boldly broke the Salt laws when he
Speaker 1: picked up a lump of salt from the mud. He
Speaker 1: would eventually get arrested, but the Salt March helped start
Speaker 1: the civil disobedience movement that led to India's independence. Alexandra
Speaker 1: get ready. The next object is yours? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's a whole bunch of farm animals. Oh wow, we've
Speaker 1: got sheep, chicken, cows, an elephant. Oh wait, sorry, that's
Speaker 1: just our secretary slash elephant, Geraldine, Geraldine, get back to work,
Speaker 1: all right, Alexandra. Why would there be farm animals in
Speaker 1: the backpack from the past? Is it because a Marie
Speaker 1: Antoinette had a small farm that she loved, or be
Speaker 1: Gandhi opened a petting zoo before he went into politics.
Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is a Marie had a farm
Speaker 1: that she would go to when she wanted to escape
Speaker 1: the public life at Firs. It was called Petit Trianon
Speaker 1: and it was the one place where Marie Antoinette could
Speaker 1: have privacy when life became difficult. Marie would often go
Speaker 1: there for peace and quiet and when when you think
Speaker 1: about it, she was like a reality TV star before
Speaker 1: TV or TV shows had been invented. This last object
Speaker 1: is for Harper Well gold out. Why do I always
Speaker 1: get heavy ones? Uh, it's a spinning wheel. We would
Speaker 1: have a spinning wheel in their backpack. A Marie Antoinette
Speaker 1: to weave outfits for her dog or be Gandhi to
Speaker 1: encourage Indian people to make their own cloth. Gandhi, that's right.
Speaker 1: The answer is be Gandhi. Gandhi encouraged boycotts, which are
Speaker 1: a refusal to buy certain items, as a form of
Speaker 1: non violent protests. In India, the British controlled the manufacturing
Speaker 1: and sale of cloth, so Gandhi encouraged Indian people to
Speaker 1: make their own cloth at home. Gandhi believed that spinning
Speaker 1: and weaving would help give India freedom from the British Empire.
Speaker 1: He became a national symbol for Indian independence and the
Speaker 1: Indian flag even has a spinning wheel on it. People
Speaker 1: all over the world still used boycotting as a form
Speaker 1: of protest. Rumpel still skin be Why did you say,
Speaker 1: Rumple still good? Well, if there's a spinning wheel around,
Speaker 1: that guy has got to be close by and making
Speaker 1: sure he knows not to mess with us. And also
Speaker 1: it's just a fun thing to say. You know what
Speaker 1: else is a fun thing to say, and that's backpack
Speaker 1: from the past, From the past, baby. The end of
Speaker 1: that game means it's just about the end of the show.
Speaker 1: While Jane Tally's the final scores, I'd love to hear
Speaker 1: from the contestants. What was something you were surprised to
Speaker 1: learn about Gandhi when Marie Intronette Alexandro, what's surprised you?
Speaker 1: It surprised me that right, Antoinette did not like share
Speaker 1: bedroom with her husband. Yeah, back then royal couples especially,
Speaker 1: they lived in a palace with so many rooms. They
Speaker 1: each had their own bedroom and their own beds. I
Speaker 1: don't think they even got to see each other very much.
Speaker 1: Does it sounds like a great way to spend your marriage,
Speaker 1: Although I don't know. They say absence makes the heart
Speaker 1: girl fonder. Maybe they loved each other all the more
Speaker 1: because they were so busy they never saw each other.
Speaker 1: And Harper, is there anything that surprised you about Gandia
Speaker 1: or Marie Intronet? It's surprisingly when I found out the
Speaker 1: Orie Internet had to proof that towered over three feet
Speaker 1: two ft over her head. Yeah, she was really a
Speaker 1: fashion icon. And back then they would do they would
Speaker 1: fashion the wigs into something called a proof, and they
Speaker 1: really took me to be extreme. Um, it was very theatrical.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I bet that poof even had
Speaker 1: its own bedroom. There's a lot of rooms at the
Speaker 1: Palace of Versailles, a lot of rooms all the wigs
Speaker 1: have their own bedrooms. It's amazing. I highly advise if
Speaker 1: you're a wig, go to Versailles. You get your room.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Well, those were great facts about Marie in TriNet.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much both for sharing them. And now
Speaker 1: it's time for the big moment. Jane, will you please
Speaker 1: announce our winner? I certainly will. Elliott m b. Although
Speaker 1: was head to head, so we're outmost to the competition
Speaker 1: at the last minute, Harper pulled away with twelve points.
Speaker 1: She is our winner. Congratulations Harper, you played a great game. Alexander,
Speaker 1: you played a fantastic game too, and you should be
Speaker 1: very happy with how you did. Harper as our winner,
Speaker 1: you have ten seconds for shoutout, still for it. Who
Speaker 1: would you like to thank about getting you to where
Speaker 1: you are today? Oh? I would like to thank my mom,
Speaker 1: my god, my brother a Leicester. The whole time I
Speaker 1: was in suspense that whether you're gonna thank your brother
Speaker 1: or not, I'm amazed you did that shows you know
Speaker 1: what you would be a benevolent queen. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. That's that showed real elegance. Our winner and
Speaker 1: their library of choice, where we receiving a selection of
Speaker 1: Who Was Books, And I'm going to give a shout
Speaker 1: out to intern Zach, Jane, Eric b and a big
Speaker 1: thank you to both of our contestants for playing such
Speaker 1: a great game. And thanks to you wherever you are
Speaker 1: at home, in a car, outer space, on a chocolate course.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you're on a chocolate course listening to this
Speaker 1: right now, in which case, oh, I'm so envious. Next week,
Speaker 1: join us again as we find out who is two
Speaker 1: more amazing figures from history. Until then, this is Elliott
Speaker 1: Chocolate Horse Klin saying We're history. Goodbye, everybody. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Got a question for any of our famous figures, send
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Speaker 1: The Who Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point, I
Speaker 1: Heart Media and Penguin Workshop and is based on the
Speaker 1: best selling who h Q series published by Penguin. Hosted
Speaker 1: by Elliott Klin with co host Megan O'Neill as b
Speaker 1: this show also starred Jane Baker as Producer, Jane, Eric
Speaker 1: Shackney as Eric, and Megan O'Neil as Mary and Twinette.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Richard Corson Alex Foch, Elliott Calin,
Speaker 1: Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Our executive producer
Speaker 1: for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sevida, and our executive producer
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Speaker 1: written by Devin Coleman, Elliott Klin, and Megan O'Neill, who
Speaker 1: was produced by Bernie Kaminsky and Taylor Kuals. Its talent
Speaker 1: was produced by our talent producer Jane Baker. Its theme
Speaker 1: song and music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney.
Speaker 1: It was edited and mixed by Kate Moldenhower. It was
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