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Speaker 2: the sponsors that keep the show a lot. My wife

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Speaker 2: cheated with my best friend disgusting. I twenty seven male,

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Speaker 2: met my wife, Sue, twenty seven female, in college when

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Speaker 1: You should see her suer.

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Speaker 2: We hit it off immediately and we're saying I love

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Speaker 2: you within weeks classic she presumed me, and I was

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Speaker 2: grateful she did. By the way, this comes from any

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Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, and I'm Keon.

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Speaker 2: And we'll try to give our best advice. But we

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Speaker 2: haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so if you have,

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Speaker 2: let us know what you would do in the comments.

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Speaker 2: But Op says when her father passed away from pancreatic

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Speaker 2: cancer during her senior year, I was there for her

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Speaker 2: through everything. I had spend nights at the hospital so

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Speaker 2: she wouldn't be alone. She called me her soulmate and

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Speaker 2: said she didn't know what she would have done without me.

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Speaker 2: I knew I was going to marry her, and I

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Speaker 2: proposed two years after graduation. Life couldn't get better. I

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Speaker 2: married the girl of my dreams, had a well paying job,

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Speaker 2: and both families loved us. My best friend, Dave twenty

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Speaker 2: unbreakable bond. My sense it's about to.

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Speaker 1: Be broken by your wife yoakes and him.

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Speaker 2: We'd known each other since third grade and he was

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Speaker 2: the brother I never had. About a year ago, his

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Speaker 2: wife passed away in a car crash, which broke him completely.

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Speaker 2: He moved back to our hometown but wouldn't engage with anyone.

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Speaker 2: Since Sue had also lost a loved one, I asked

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Speaker 2: to his pain better. He definitely related a little too much.

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Speaker 2: That was my first mistake. We'd visit him daily, and

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Speaker 2: Sue would spend hours at his place, even without me there.

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Speaker 2: They went on hikes together, watched movies, and grabbed lunch.

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Speaker 2: This was far more interaction than I'd intended, but Dave

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Speaker 2: Sue always thought he was a douche because he bounced

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Speaker 2: between relationships and cheated on his deceased wife. Well, why

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Speaker 1: That sounds like not the best of friends to have.

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Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, maybe like don't send your wife into

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Speaker 2: on her phone, becoming distant, little to no intimacy, and

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Speaker 2: to see she became irritated and called me possessive. When

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Speaker 2: One day, Sue said she was going to her sisters

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Speaker 1: Reality is so unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: I called her sister to confirm, and while she was

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's just watching her favorite sports team lose a game.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, the Cowboys lost to the Bears.

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Speaker 2: When I reached his bedroom door, I could see through

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Speaker 2: We really hate when people do that, like in stories

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Speaker 1: To just be like okay, she just goes. I can explain.

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Speaker 1: So I came over, we started making it. I go upstairs.

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Speaker 3: My favorite is stop, what do you want to put

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We wit wait, stop, hold on. I drove to

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Speaker 2: I can't eat or sleep both days, and Sue have

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Speaker 2: been calling, along with family members. I told my family

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Speaker 2: and there is an update.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think I would have not gone

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Speaker 1: been like, yeah, clearly you're cheating on me. I walked in,

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Speaker 1: I would have just moved in silence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just go Hey, I gotta hear your guys

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Speaker 2: I want to see it. Racket, but I can hear

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Speaker 1: I would have just moved in absolute silence and not

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Speaker 3: I would love to get the explanation to see them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, go okay and see all right.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you like, I didn't get this far. I

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Speaker 2: Sue sent me a long message. I know you need

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm going insane. Good. I never

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, we definitely intended suet deeper.

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Speaker 2: Than too deep, and things escalated. I won't lie and

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Speaker 2: say this was the first time. Oh, we've had spicy

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Huh? The rest was emotional emotional

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Speaker 2: I have feelings for Dave that I won't deny, but

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Speaker 2: I love you so much. Now you don't, so why

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Speaker 2: didn't you sleep with OPI? Yeah, no you don't. Don't

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Speaker 2: What I did has nothing to do with you. That's true.

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Speaker 2: It does have nothing to do with obi. Dave, and

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Speaker 2: I took advantage of your kindness. Give me the chance

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Speaker 2: to make this right. Please come home. I don't know

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Speaker 2: person I married, As many suggested. I contacted a lawyer

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Speaker 2: I still love my wife, but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: between sorrow and rage constantly. Should I try reconciliation or

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Speaker 2: and the pain feels fresh. Every time I close my eyes,

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Speaker 2: I see Sue and Dave together. Most are saying divorce,

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Speaker 1: In pretty Sure it was pretty black and white. What

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Speaker 2: Sue's been staying with her sister and went no contact

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Speaker 2: with Dave, who cares. She was cheating on you for

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Speaker 2: individual counseling, and there is a second update. But do

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and break that off, brother.

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Speaker 2: Break that off. Don't be with her. She's been cheating

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Speaker 2: The only reason I could do this to you is

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Speaker 2: When I look back, most of our marriage was filled

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Speaker 1: I'll uh, I'll see you in the gym.

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Speaker 2: about how miserable she'd be without me.

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Speaker 1: Good duh, and I hope you are.

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Speaker 2: She even sent Bible verses on forgiveness. She's like, no,

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Speaker 2: the Bible slits. You have to forgive me.

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Speaker 1: Just send back the Bible verse about infidelity.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, isn't one of the commandments.

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Speaker 2: Literally one of the commandments is thou shalt not covet

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Speaker 1: Thou shalt not bang it my best friend.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, a little known commandment. I started working again

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Speaker 2: underlying issues she discovered, mainly low self esteem. She explained

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Speaker 2: that the discrepancy in our attractiveness made her self aware

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Speaker 2: She asked if we could try marriage counseling. I started

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it be the ones closest to you.

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Speaker 2: So true, but that's not obviously any of your faults

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Speaker 2: If you notice that your friend is like a serial cheater,

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Speaker 1: And your wife two betrayals, wacky best friends with wife cheater.

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Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left. Then, Sue's sister

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Speaker 2: describe how devastating it was to hear let alone, how

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Speaker 1: That is an insane turn of events.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really tough. Part is feeling like this is

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Speaker 2: on with my life. That's ridiculous, Like I understand they

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Speaker 1: Is you didn't bang your best friend, she wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the full details because I don't have

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Speaker 2: But uh Obi, it is not your fault. She caused

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Speaker 1: That's all you can do is try to move on. Yep,

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Speaker 1: my wife cheated on me after I build her dream home. Ungrateful,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this comes from a deleted user

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Speaker 1: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

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Speaker 1: to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. Last night I

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Speaker 1: where did we go wrong? There's an app for everything? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: People got app the life you don't see.

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Speaker 3: Like the lights with a house app? And maybe it

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Speaker 3: like have you seen those things? Now?

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Speaker 1: I noticed she had put on a pattern unlock, which

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Speaker 1: bring this special toy.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe you should talk about the switch. Maybe they're

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Speaker 2: just gonna play some spash bros.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna smash my brain. Understood the words, but

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Speaker 1: this was about her upcoming trip Monday. I've read hundreds

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Speaker 1: be sitting on my bedroom floor in such a cold,

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Speaker 1: info about the router. She had logged into Facebook on

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Speaker 3: What. I don't even text that much.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand messages?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand messages, I hope.

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Speaker 1: That's like, fifteen thousand is like, how could you not notice.

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Speaker 1: I'll get you fifteen thousand. There's fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand, forty one texts a day.

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Speaker 3: Okay, text Actually I don't even text Carly that much

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Speaker 1: Y'all need to text your girlfriends more. Okay, it texts

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Speaker 1: me fifteen thousand texts a day of what just letters?

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Speaker 3: Is code?

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Speaker 2: All of your texts. I've been separated by letters.

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Speaker 1: By letters, my messages one letter at a time, like

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Speaker 3: Nope, you should do it from bottom to the top

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Speaker 1: She stopped using Verizon messages about three months ago and

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Speaker 1: I don't know her saying I love you classifies as

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Speaker 1: Knowing cheating is an absolute deal breaker for me. I

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Speaker 1: called my best friend, who recommended a lawyer. I plan

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm seething and just want to inflict pain. At this point,

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Speaker 1: I feel eviscerated, emasculated. I found the special toy already

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Speaker 1: God's life.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Have you too many apps?

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Speaker 3: There's there's worse apps out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting sick.

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Speaker 3: App.

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Speaker 1: Is there an app to make me not sick?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 1: I wish doc?

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Speaker 2: This is doc doc God.

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Speaker 1: Now, what are your thoughts? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know. Let's get into the update.

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Speaker 1: My thought is, divorce your wife.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's cheating on you, pretty pretty cut and dry.

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Speaker 1: My response is move in absolute silence and then drop

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of eighteen million metric tons of TNT on

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Speaker 1: this relationship. Oh and you know, we wish the children well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's all we do. We wish the children.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we confront her and divorce. Well, first

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Speaker 2: you get a lawyer, and then you figure out what

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Speaker 2: you can do, and then you go and say, I

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Speaker 2: know you're cheating.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's the papers, hide her toy. Yeah, what make

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Speaker 3: her go crazy?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get into this update.

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Speaker 1: Put all of her belongings in the shower, because she's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I met with the lawyer who told me to forget

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Speaker 1: any Hollywood style confrontation. She said there are two routes,

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00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: contested or non contested divorce. I would have to notify

443
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: my wife that I've retained counsel. My wife came home

444
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: around seven thirty. I asked if there was anything she

445
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. She said nothing other than the election.

446
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 1: When she asked what was bothering me, I said I

447
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 1: was curious why she had a remote control buzz buzz

448
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: in her luggage. The look on her face was more

449
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: telling than anything I've ever seen. She looked panicked, pale,

450
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: and began breathing faster and sweating. As I pulled out

451
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: my three file folders of text exchanges, I asked if

452
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: the other man's wife would have the app to control it.

453
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: Bride and pleaded that she could explain.

454
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: Ah, we're so used to that.

455
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear your explanations. They're all the same.

456
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: I want to hear it. I just want to see it.

457
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: They just try, Yeah, tru see by your best.

458
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: I mean, we already know we're divorcing, but I just

459
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: want to see you like I want to see you.

460
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: Try abducteds and they installed a mind control device. Remember

461
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: research on how to pro create?

462
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Remember the like The most far fetched one was the

463
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: one where she got like hypno hypnotized. Yeah I was,

464
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: I was hypnotized.

465
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: You hypnotized? Yeah exactly.

466
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to hear your explanation.

467
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: Just see how out of pocket the let's see it.

468
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: I said she had five minutes to do it.

469
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's given, he's given the top.

470
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: And of course she couldn't do it.

471
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: She didn't have a tight five answer.

472
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: You have a tight five ready for that, bab I

473
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: told her what my attorney instructed me to say and

474
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: told her to leave. She screamed it was her house too.

475
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: I calmly told her I would be notifying everyone about

476
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: her affair, including the girls, or she could leave now.

477
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I pulled up Facebook and showed her the other man's wife,

478
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: through tears and pleading with I love you, and it

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to go this far, and my favorite, you

480
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: can't do this. I sent the other man's wife a

481
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: message with their entire file. I leafed through the papers

482
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: and started reading random excerpts out loud. She kept sobbing

483
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: and asking to talk about us, saying our marriage could

484
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: withstand her mistake. I told her I would never forgive her.

485
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: Her word meant nothing, and that she threw away the

486
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: last seventeen years and the house told her not to

487
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: come back after her trip.

488
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, go go meet your guy and you can stay

489
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: there with them.

490
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: Pike your toy with you new husband.

491
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: You got a new one.

492
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: You had your toy.

493
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm sending friend requests to everyone and sharing the evidence.

494
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to wait until morning to call the girls.

495
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: I raised them from age eleven and six and they're

496
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: women now. I don't know what to tell them. Update

497
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Speaker 1: number two.

498
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I don't know because I feel

499
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: like I feel like the other man's wife was one thing,

500
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: but you yeah to tell your daughters like this, well,

501
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: just even sending a friend request to everybody.

502
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a little like twenty eight and twenty three.

503
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: They think maybe they can be told.

504
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that the daughters can be told, I

505
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: think again. But what he's doing is, yeah.

506
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: He's sending it everywhere. I'm sending it up Like how

507
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: you tell them.

508
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna it's gonna be like, hey, girls, just

509
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: want to let you know I'm leaving your mother. She

510
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: cheated on me.

511
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: That's fine. Yeah, I think telling the girl, like the

512
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: people that are relevant relevant to this, Yeah, not just

513
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: like all right, I'm gonna go on social media and

514
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: just yeah, we don't all.

515
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: Send it everywhere just for your sake, Yeah, because you're

516
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: not gonna want to deal.

517
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: With ever being like lawyer, dragging more people in the

518
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: way is just gonna Yeah, you don't want If you

519
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: want more attention to it all to you.

520
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: But but you have to deal with that attention.

521
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: So exactly, I'm going to give deeper background. I went

522
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: to college in Las Vegas in the mid nineties and

523
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: graduated in nineteen ninety nine with a nursing degree. Yeah, Okay,

524
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: that's some deep background. I had decided never to marry

525
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: and definitely did not want children. When I moved to

526
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Texas in two thousand and one to pursue my master's degree,

527
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: I met my soon to be ex wife. She was

528
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: a divorced mother of two girls. We dated for about

529
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: two years. She sat me down and gave me a

530
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: pragmatic talk about needing to either get married or move on.

531
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, I got acceptance letter to a medical

532
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: school two hours away. I was ecstatic and crushed at

533
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: the same time, realizing I'd never see her or the girls,

534
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: and considering the seven year process ahead with loans and debt,

535
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: I declined medical school and switched to a master's in

536
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: nursing administration. We got married in July two thousand and three.

537
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: My parents have always been standoffish with my wife. When

538
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: I told them what was happening, they said they felt

539
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: she was damaged goods and had forced me to compromise.

540
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: That really hit home on Saturday morning, Day two, after

541
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Discovery was making breakfast. When she walked into the kitchen,

542
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: she asked if I would make her some. I threw

543
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: it into the trash in front of her dang, which

544
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: is honestly there, but I'm sorry.

545
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: She's asking you for food, she's asking you to do

546
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: something for her.

547
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: No, it's like, Oh, your food's right there, it's where

548
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: you belong.

549
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: Just dump it on the floor.

550
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: You can go get it.

551
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: I proceeded to play music from my youth at an

552
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable volume to prevent her from trying to talk to me.

553
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: She approached asking what purpose notifying the other man's wife.

554
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Served she knows that she's being cheated on.

555
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: A lady, She's blown from stupid town.

556
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: You crazy.

557
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: I told her that at least she would get the

558
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: chance to make an informed decision about her future instead

559
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: of compromising for someone who would betray her so selfishly.

560
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: She sat down and began sobbing. I told her I

561
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: was so numb that I would cry. Later, when I

562
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: was done doing what needs to be done, I found

563
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: her company's HR paper and called their corporate compliance line.

564
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: They had discussed client information with protected health information using

565
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: unsecured messaging systems. She was also his supervisor on projects.

566
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: During the time of the spicily inappropriate message. They both

567
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: used company phones to transmit inappropriate materials. Sunday, Day three,

568
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: I drove to see the girls. I told them point

569
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: blank about the situation and that their mother would probably

570
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: be moving in the next three to six months. I

571
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: told them everything. They were disappointed in her. I explained

572
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: that if they decided they didn't want a relationship with me,

573
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: that was okay, but it shouldn't interfere with their relationship

574
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: with my parents. They agreed to keep in touch with

575
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: their grandparents. Monday, Day four, I arrived home to find

576
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: her car still there. She had called in sick and

577
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: didn't leave for her quarterly meeting. She tried talking about

578
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: how much she loved me, and I laughed, realizing it

579
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: had a manic feel that took me aback, but I

580
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: told her she loved me so much she had a

581
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: year and a half of fear behind my back. I

582
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: pulled out the bottle an eighteen year Glenn Fittitch, my

583
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: grandfather bought for us when we got married. It was

584
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: our tradition to have a small sip on our anniversary.

585
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I chugged the remainder. Okay, that was Hey, that's just

586
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: a waste of good scotch.

587
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: Buddy, Hope he's really going through it right now. Clearly,

588
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: I think if you can get therapy.

589
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I went to the bedroom and began pulling all pictures

590
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: with us in them off of the wall. My attorney

591
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: called to notify me the divorce petition was ready. I

592
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: signed and sent it while very buzzed on Premium Scotch.

593
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I also got a message from the other man's wife

594
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: reluctantly thanking me for this horrible but good revelation. She

595
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: found text and videos with other women besides my wife. Uhh,

596
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: she kicked him out and was going to an attorney.

597
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean good that you told her. Yeah, now

598
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: she knows, but yeah, wow, your wife sucks.

599
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: And so does he whose day. Day five therapy was

600
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: a two and a half hour session. My wife had

601
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: followed me there. I told her I was getting this

602
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: therapy for the emotional trauma of realizing I had thrown

603
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: away most of my life on someone who couldn't even

604
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: give me a reason why she cheated. My therapist saw

605
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: the exchange where I called her horrible names and told

606
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: her I wished her nothing but bad things. We discussed

607
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: my anger, betrayal, emasculation, and fear of the future. He

608
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: started explaining that instead of asking why, I should ask

609
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: what within herself gave her permission to do this to me.

610
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: I met with my hospital administration and formally gave my

611
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: six weeks resignation. I couldn't concentrate on make or break

612
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: issues in my current state of mind. I decided to

613
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: move away, far away, far far away. I am now

614
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: a character in Shrek Your Donkey. Wednesday, Day six, I

615
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: woke up with her curled next to me, disgusting. I've

616
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: been working on my resume and getting applications out. I

617
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: might be working in Seattle by the end of the year.

618
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I can't stay in this city. Thought of running into

619
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: her after this is over is unbearable. My wife has

620
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: been going to the library reading relationship book Bok. You

621
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: got a call from work about a meeting, despite claiming

622
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: to be sick. I eavesdropped and knew it was about

623
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: the HR complaint. Thursday, day seven, she told me her

624
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: meeting was with HR and would probably be bad if

625
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: he asked what she could do to make us equal again,

626
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: I said nothing.

627
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Build me a house, go back.

628
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: In time and tell me not to date you and

629
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: marry you, and let me go to medical school to

630
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: be a doctor.

631
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: Build me a house, don't cheat on me. Ah, good

632
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: luck with that.

633
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: But other than that you kind of screwed.

634
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: She offered an open marriage. On my end, I said no,

635
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: because I don't trust her, and also why what is

636
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: what kind of solution is that I wanted to be

637
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: married to my wife who was loyal and dedicated to

638
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: me and wouldn't betray me. No matter how many people

639
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: I bang outside of our marriage.

640
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Change anything, this marriage is still esthetic to offer that.

641
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: It's so drives me crazy.

642
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: I love how she's like, we can do open marriage.

643
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: You've already opened the marriagecause it just fundamentally goes to

644
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: shows like why did you even want to get married?

645
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: So you think that just marriage is like a punishment.

646
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: It's like a roadblock, and that okay, I'll let you

647
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: have the treat I'll let you have the carrot on

648
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: the stick, that is, you can go have other women.

649
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you want the marriage, doesn't want to

650
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: You would the.

651
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: One who sat him down and said, look, we either

652
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: have to get married or move on. And now you

653
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: say that after you get caught cheating. You're absurd. I

654
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: asked what I did that made her so unhappy that

655
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: she did this? She said, I was beyond great. She

656
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: said it was an adventure. I think she lived off

657
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: the rush. What didn't realize until too late that everyone

658
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: would be hurt.

659
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: You're not in the hobbit. You cheating on your partner

660
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: isn't an adventure.

661
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm going on an advent. That's what she calls her

662
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: toy and her boy.

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00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Yikes, yikes, we have a volcano available for her, No

664
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: lovely volcano with a volcano.

665
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: Just divorce papers, just a horse.

666
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Papers, picturesque slopes of Mount Doom. There was a little nook,

667
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe even a cranny for you to slither into. When

668
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: I got home from therapy, she told me she was

669
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: fired for breach of protocol, and the other man was

670
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: fired as well. She told me she had no contact

671
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: with him in five days.

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00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Oh, that makes up for it, just like a five

673
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: whole days. That makes up for the fifteen how many

674
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: thousand messages? Fifteen? I was gonna say fifteen hundred, fifteen thousands.

675
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: I asked, why hadn't she contacted him since they were

676
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: both free now. She said I was the only one

677
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: she wanted. Too late, I said she had all of me,

678
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: and it still wasn't enough. I told her about all

679
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: the compromises I made declining medical school to get married,

680
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: not wanting children, but accepting hers. I made those compromises

681
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: for our love, but obviously I had misplaced my trust.

682
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I told her I would never love her again, and

683
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: that at best I would treat her like a spicy

684
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: sleep toy. I said, it was just a week ago.

685
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: She was the first person I thought of when I

686
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: woke up in the last when I went to sleep.

687
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Now it hurts too much to think about her. And

688
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: there's been a third update.

689
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's no way that you can save this relationship,

690
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: no matter what she says. But yeah, I think that

691
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: to keep going to therapy if you can, you know,

692
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: reach out to the people that you know support you,

693
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: maybe your daughter's obviously that's a little complicated, but it

694
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: seems like they're on your side.

695
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: It's been five weeks since discovery. I moved out about

696
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: three days after my last update. My ex wife constantly

697
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: texts and leaves notes on my apartment door and car.

698
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: My therapist has complimented me on my progress managing the anger, despair,

699
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: and depression. She was served divorce papers the first week

700
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: of October. The love bombing and attempted covering has been

701
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: borderline psychotic. The earliest hearing is maybe January. I had

702
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: two unexpected surprises though. My stepdaughters came to visit me.

703
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: My oldest had always carried a chip on her shoulder

704
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: about me, and it turns out their assumptions about me

705
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: were incorrect. They thought I was the on again, off

706
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: again guy their mother had been with before me, not

707
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: realizing I came later. Their father had spent years talking

708
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: badly about their mother for cheating, but never disclosed he

709
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: had cheated. First, my oldest stepdaughter apologized and asked for forgiveness.

710
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Just a little bit more story. Yeah, I think I

711
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: accept the apology of my stepdaughters and I just move on. Yeah.

712
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: I think with the step daughters, that's a little bit

713
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: of complicated the situation for them. But it seems like they,

714
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: you know, really love you and don't support their mom in.

715
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: The because he did raise them.

716
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. He said he raised them from like six or eleven.

717
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: To like eleven and six, Yes, six.

718
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: And eleven, Like you're their dad, and they're in their

719
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: late twenties.

720
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Now, twenty eight, twenty three.

721
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like you're their dad at that point.

722
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: The second surprise was a coworker who found out about

723
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: my pending divorce. After insisting on taking me out for

724
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: a drink, she told me she had no intention of

725
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: being with me forever, but just wanted to try me on.

726
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: Huhuh to stop talking.

727
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: No, this is a coworker, I know. Oh stuff, I

728
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: don't know. Sometimes the best way to get.

729
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: She never had it. She just wanted to try you on.

730
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Hey, sometimes the best way to get over somebody is

731
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: get on top of somebody.

732
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm wait what, I'm confused. She's saying that OPI's ex

733
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: wife just wanted to know.

734
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: This is this is a coworker of op She's.

735
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Sitting down proposal.

736
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.

737
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 3: Like I feel it's like it's like a little pity.

738
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: I see, I see she's saying. I don't I'm not interested.

739
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: She's shooting her shot.

740
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Just want to try What are you talking about it?

741
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: You're like, no, no talking to anyone, be alone forever.

742
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: That your anger until you become a seamore.

743
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: I guess sure somebody shot the shot and told him

744
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: like straight up, like, hey, we're adults, and like I thought,

745
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this for you.

746
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: She I don't know why I thought she said that

747
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: Opie's wife. I was like, what, how did you know

748
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: that this is.

749
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: Just a friend.

750
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh, she's just a try on, all right, Sure, I

751
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: guess she's been spending nights a couple of times a

752
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: week and it's something I've enjoyed.

753
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: There you go.

754
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she even helped me pack and drove me to

755
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: the airport from my interview in Seattle, which I crushed.

756
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: That's a good friend.

757
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: My lawyer said. There is no alimony in our state,

758
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: but infidelity with proof effects asset division probably seventy thirty

759
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: in my favor. Nice. The house sale will be substantial,

760
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: not enough to justify seventeen years down the drain. But

761
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm contemplating a three month European tour. I'm feeling again

762
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: and it's been fairly positive. I'm not in the best place,

763
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: but definitely not as bad as I could be. And

764
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: that is the end.

765
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: And that's all you can ask for.

766
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: Of that story. Yeah, I agree, not at.

767
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: The best place, but as well as you can be.

768
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: Good luck getting to a better place. I suppose you'll

769
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: find someone better and maybe you know also be careful

770
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: about it doesn't seem like you're rushing into a relationship,

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: but don't do that.

772
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: Enjoy You have seventeen years to be single. Just do

773
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: you and some people that you want to do and

774
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: have fun. Yeah, you're going to go on that European

775
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: tour and just enjoy yourself, enjoy life, do some stuff.

776
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story, and we got

777
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: another one. Come and write it.

778
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: That's right. Hey, it's Sam, I'm your og host. Here

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Speaker 1: bad you back to the stories. But here's three minutes

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781
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Speaker 2: I want my ex off my mortgage now. Yeah, bigger

782
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: warning for mentions of self harm. I am a twenty

783
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: five female living in UK and my ex is a

784
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: thirty male. We have been together for five years up

785
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: until last week when he suddenly told me he didn't

786
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: love me anymore, didn't want to be with me, and

787
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: could never marry someone like me.

788
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: Wow eight thanks cheek?

789
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: Oh is he three a crisis? I was shocked, confused, heartbroken,

790
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: upset and angry, all emotions I didn't know I could

791
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: feel at once.

792
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: At least he's honest, a love too honest, love too.

793
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: Maybe a little too much.

794
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, considering that the same day, hours before, he was

795
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: cuddling me in bed and giving me kisses I feel

796
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: like there's got to have been something that happened. Either

797
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: he's been like, you know, holding this in for a while,

798
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: or something else happened that made him spook. By the way,

799
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: this comes from Sammy Norbag And if you want to

800
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

801
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: storytime severed it and we'll try to give our best advice.

802
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so

803
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: if you have, let us know what you would do.

804
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: In the comments, and Op says, we bought a house

805
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: together four years ago. You bought a house one year

806
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: into the relationship.

807
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: That seems a little quick.

808
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: Also, how did you have the money for that? Oh,

809
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: he was twenty one at the time, you like twenty four.

810
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I would bet it has something to do with bitcoin,

811
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: or familial connections or they build houses.

812
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: And I was all too happy that we finally had

813
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: our home. We were going to get animals, do the

814
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: house up, decorate, all of which would cost many He

815
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: reinforced this by telling me it would cause money and

816
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: convince me to get a credit card, something I never

817
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: had before, but stupidly went along with because he had

818
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: won and convinced me it would be necessary. I mean,

819
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: you should have a credit card.

820
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm not even I'm laughing at what about commenters

821
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: can find?

822
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I'm talking about waybe I've got

823
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: I've got shorts on guys, but.

824
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Will say that I'm talking.

825
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: To cut a huts. Why did I feel like twenty

826
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: one is you're old enough to have had a credit card?

827
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, obviously he's up to no good.

828
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's it's it is necessary. You

829
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: should have a credit card.

830
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: You should have an understanding of how credit works.

831
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should be building your credit. I don't understand

832
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: how you're buying a house without a credit card or.

833
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: Credit probably lots of money.

834
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just wondering where they're getting all this money,

835
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: because it doesn't If he's saying we need to get

836
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: a credit card to buy all this stuff, then they

837
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: clearly don't have the money to buy buy a house outright.

838
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: How is there credit work? He's only twenty he was

839
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: twenty five.

840
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you need credit to be a

841
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: blockchain billionaire.

842
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: You need credit to buy.

843
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: Home, not if you just can prove honestly though, it's

844
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: not if you if you can prove an absurd amount

845
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: of liquid assets.

846
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I doubt A twenty one year old and a

847
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty four.

848
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: Year old, Yes, those are That is the age bracket

849
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: of the crypto billionaire.

850
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: What I didn't know was this was his plan. He

851
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: put more of a deposit on the house, and we

852
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: agreed that as he earned more, he would pay more

853
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: towards the bills, so I didn't feel any pressure. This

854
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: was a false promise, as it quickly turned to all

855
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: the bills being split fifty to fifty. At the time,

856
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: my monthly income was about eleven hundred pounds, and I

857
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: was spending about eight hundred pounds to pay my share

858
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: of the bills, barely leaving enough money for my own

859
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: personal bills and definitely not enough for myself. Okay, so

860
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: he's saying we're to split a fifty to fifty. Oh,

861
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: he's making eleven hundred pounds, spending eight hundred on all

862
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: of the hospells.

863
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: Oh, PE's spending more than How are you two thirds

864
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: of their paycheck on rent?

865
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: How are you affording this house? I was naive and

866
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: love and thought he loved me too. I had about

867
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: three thousand pounds of cash and savings from birthdays, christmases,

868
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: et cetera, and stupidly told him about it. He made

869
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 2: dang sure that whenever we went out to buy things

870
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: for the house to say make sure you bring your cash,

871
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: and then at the checkout would say, you use your

872
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: cash and I'll pay you back half when I get paid.

873
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: I never saw his half of the payments and quickly

874
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: ran out of my savings on the promise that he

875
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: would give me his half. Upon moving in, My parents

876
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: as a gift bought us a king sized bed, sofa

877
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: set and paid to do up our kitchen and bathroom

878
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: after there was.

879
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: Come on, the parents have to be rich.

880
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: I mean they must be. That does sound it, But like, yeah,

881
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: Lou says, eleven hundred is so little. Maybe I'm just

882
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: thinking like LA housing, But like I just can't imagine,

883
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: even in the UK, that there is a house that

884
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: you like. How are you? How did you buy a house? Outright?

885
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to the average stuff.

886
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look up the average out of a house

887
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: in the UK compared to LA. How about that?

888
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? With me panicking as I couldn't afford to fix

889
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: the bathroom, my parents went into their pocket to help

890
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: their daughter and where was he certainly not reaching into

891
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: his savings anytime soon. In total, my parents put about

892
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: fifteen K into our house as a gift and out

893
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: of necessity. Why did you buy this house to have

894
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: Why did you buy this house have a house?

895
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand it is it is weird that it

896
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: really doesn't feel like y'all were a team on any

897
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: level really just on a word level. Y'all were like

898
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: on the same team, but it had never tested. Y'all

899
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't field test.

900
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: I hope he was twenty and he was twenty five

901
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: when they first started dating.

902
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: And then okay, so so not a CAC guy says

903
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: in some parts of the UK can buy a house

904
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: for under one hundred K.

905
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: But there's no way that she has one hundred K.

906
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: She said she had three thousand pounds of money and

907
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: in K says with the legal money rich girlfriend. But

908
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: like it doesn't even seem like they have. I'm just

909
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: confused because like they have never unless so he doesn't

910
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: know about any of that, and he's fronting all of

911
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: this like substance money. We know that the parents put

912
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: in fifteen K, so maybe they put in more money

913
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: for the house, but like, I'm just confused why they

914
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: would front that money to their Like if I went

915
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: to my parents at twenty and said, I'm moving in

916
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: with this guy, this twenty five year old, and we're

917
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna buy a house, but we also don't have the money,

918
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: so can you front this money? They'd say, no, we're

919
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: not helping you buy a house that you can't afford.

920
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: So I'm just confused why they did this, uh, or

921
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: why your parents are on board for this and helping

922
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: you front that money. It quickly became a parent that

923
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: I was not a girlfriend but more of a personal housekeeper.

924
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: I did the cleaning, cooking, et cetera, while he lay

925
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: on the sofa watching TV or playing video games with

926
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: his friends. After promising a night of watching a movie together,

927
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: he would suddenly say that his friend texted him to

928
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: hang out, so that's what he do. He would ask

929
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: me to drive him there and to pick him up

930
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: later on as he was going to be drinking. So

931
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: I was not only a housekeeper but also a taxi service.

932
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: I started to get sick of this lifestyle as it

933
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: no longer felt like a relationship. He hounded me for

934
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: money one day and made me feel guilty that I

935
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: didn't have it. I went to see my mom and

936
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: ended up getting really upset. She told me to address

937
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: it sooner rather than later. I approached him to talk

938
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: about things and said that if we couldn't sort out

939
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: our situation, then we would have to sell the house

940
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: in part ways. He started hyperventilating and asking me not

941
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: to leave, saying he was so scared if I left

942
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: that he'd have nothing else. So I stayed. Going to

943
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: fast forward to twenty twenty three, he was made redundant

944
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: from his job and a month later got a new job,

945
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: and he would come home from work beaming and telling

946
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: me how the manager said that him and this girl

947
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: he worked with made such a great team and really connected. No,

948
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: so now now I's going to cheat on you after

949
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: you've been taking care of this entire house and also

950
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: freaking paid to fail parents paid to fix up this house.

951
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Honestly, the moment I hear the but if you leave me,

952
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I'll have nothing good, I'd say, but it's only up

953
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: from there.

954
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: But then you got nothing to lose.

955
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm a cowboy up Bootstrap City. Wow, your name is

956
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: Bill Turner, I mean Will Turner or no it's Bill Turner.

957
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: I need to sleep.

958
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think. Op, next time, don't buy a

959
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: house with a person you've known I just for a year,

960
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: and that you can't afford.

961
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm giving not the benefit of a doubt for othpee.

962
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 3: But again, ohp he's young.

963
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Oh he's very young, very young, very young.

964
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Get it.

965
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Got into a relationship pretty quick.

966
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: If nothing without you, then they need to become something. Yeah,

967
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: without on their own.

968
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm not proud, but I am the jealous type. If

969
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: I have a gut feeling that something isn't right, my

970
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: gut is always spot on quickly. The friendship between him

971
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: and his colleague group every night after coming home from work,

972
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I was cast aside and he went on to discord

973
00:45:59,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: to play a game.

974
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: So there you go see, shored strap bailed Tana.

975
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: The day I drew a line was when he said

976
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: that he had organized a day out for the pair

977
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: of them doing his favorite hobbies, but I was not

978
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: invited as it would just be the two of them.

979
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: This is hey, y y, and we were not cool

980
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: with this, right he yea yeah, please tell me we

981
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: were not cool with that?

982
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't comfortable and he guilted me saying

983
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: that he told me where they were going, so he

984
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: wasn't trying to be sneaky, and also said I should

985
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: be more understanding as her mother is cancer and he

986
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: lost a brother to cancer years ago. What is there

987
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: to understand there?

988
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: Y'all can join a support group. What are you talking about?

989
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: What y'all have shared experience?

990
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: No way, Tons of people have shared experience. But when

991
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: I found out a couple of months prior that my

992
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: dad had cancer and I was crying on the sofa,

993
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: he came in and said, why are you being so

994
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: hysterical to now? You can't bond with op big mom?

995
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: With other girl?

996
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: Is this?

997
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: That?

998
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Is this? The uh? The song too perfect?

999
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that's one, it's the other. Maybe I'm

1000
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: kuper big, I'll do that.

1001
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah.

1002
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: Even when my mother tried to commit to self harm

1003
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and I went on antidepressants, he

1004
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: would constantly say, it'll be okay, try to forget about it.

1005
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Probably his take on monetary issues too.

1006
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: Forget about it, Yeah, we can't afford this out.

1007
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: Forget about it. Let's just put it on the credit card.

1008
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: Forget about it no words of comfort and no words

1009
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: of sympathy. If I tried to talk about my problems,

1010
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: he would suddenly switch the conversation to something about him.

1011
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: He dominated conversations between me and my best friend, sometimes

1012
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 2: taking over the whole thing as if I wasn't there.

1013
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: He suddenly started losing weight quickly. He bought designer clothes

1014
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: at around three hundred pounds a shop, a one forty

1015
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: pound pair of trainers, and completely changed his hairstyle. I

1016
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: wonder who's doing that for. Also, why are we spending

1017
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: hundreds of pounds on clothes when you can't afford to

1018
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: freaking pay to fix up the house that you bought?

1019
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: Give me back my money, Remember that money I paid.

1020
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: Give me the back that half the money that paid

1021
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: me back. Give paid me back my half. Chief.

1022
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: I knew deep down something was wrong, and he started

1023
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: staying later at the office to catch.

1024
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Up with the team.

1025
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: Sure, you are catching up with the team.

1026
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably catching some kind of illness.

1027
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: I stupidly took him at face value until I realized

1028
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: he had made a hidden channel on discord for him

1029
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: and his colleague to go into knowing full well that

1030
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't join it or see it. Going forward to

1031
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: the events of last week, we had a good day,

1032
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: went out, cudd old, kissed the stuff we'd done before

1033
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: he got the new job, and then suddenly that night

1034
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: he said that he doesn't love me anymore, but then

1035
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't go to bed unless I was going to join

1036
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: him in the bed.

1037
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: He's his s Teddy bear.

1038
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: This is this is the flip Flop song. This is

1039
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Messy by Lola Young, So it's like his I'm so

1040
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: perfect and then you tell me that you freaking hate me,

1041
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: and then you don't love me anymore, but then you

1042
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: still want me to sleep in the bed. Those aren't

1043
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the lyrics of the song, but it's but they could be.

1044
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: They could They fit right in.

1045
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: Still very confused by the whole situation, my sister came

1046
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: by the house the next day for moral support, as

1047
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: did his brother. I went for a walk to clear

1048
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: my head and think about what I wanted to say.

1049
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: But little did I know that while I was gone,

1050
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: he was fabricating stories to my sister and brother, saying

1051
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: I was an aggressive drinker and self harming all the time.

1052
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: If anyone here takes sir Telene, you know you're not

1053
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: supposed to drink on it, and I certainly did not

1054
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: enjoy the effects the first time, I ignored the advice.

1055
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: After this, I maybe would have had one or two

1056
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: siders with the odd meal on occasions, but that was all.

1057
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: And I will admit that I self harmed occasionally. I

1058
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: hadn't for ten years until he started behaving oddly around me.

1059
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: Even then, my emotions would overwhelm me and I would

1060
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: do it to ground myself. Again, never extensively.

1061
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: Okay, well, definitely don't don't do that relationship.

1062
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Don't do that OPA like washing you to that you

1063
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: got to leave this relationship, and too, like, definitely go

1064
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: to therapy because I feel like you're trying to justify it.

1065
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: You know, you're still not in a good place and

1066
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: you need help. When I came back from my walk,

1067
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: we sat down to discuss things and he informed me

1068
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: that he was moving to his sisters for a while.

1069
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: So after packing some bags, he left. I felt like

1070
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: a weight lifted slightly until the next day. My mother

1071
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: packed the rest of his things to prevent him being

1072
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: in the house and around me for prolonged periods, But

1073
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: whenever mother and his friend were out of earshot, he

1074
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: started threatening me with solicitors and then being nice at

1075
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: PIE when they came back. Recently, I found out that

1076
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: he has been telling lies for weeks about me and

1077
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: still is. He tried to turn my best friend against

1078
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: me by saying that he's been unhappy in the relationship

1079
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: for a while and has tried to break up with

1080
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: me multiple times but can't. As I tell him that

1081
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: I'd done alive myself if he left, and then said

1082
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: that I would proceed to self harm in front of him,

1083
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 2: my best friend started to pity him and turn again,

1084
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: as he was very convincing. He's told several people that

1085
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm an aggressive drinker, told his family in closest friends

1086
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: that I forced him out of the house because he

1087
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: felt wrapped by my anxieties and threatening to unlive myself

1088
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: if he left. He's also said that my anger issues

1089
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: made him scared to come home from work. The thing

1090
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: is he worked from home mainly and was never scared

1091
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: of me, considering he towers over me and loved to

1092
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: practice mixed martial arts on me. What I think, hopefully

1093
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: you mean that in like a not bad way, like, oh,

1094
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: like you guys would wrestle or something.

1095
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: They're just both yoked MMA fighters.

1096
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: He's been threatening me with solicitor action if I don't

1097
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: agree to sell the house. I don't want to sell

1098
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: the house, as i'd have nowhere else to go. Unfortunately,

1099
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: I can't even move back in with my parents. He

1100
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: said I'd need to buy him out then, and he

1101
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: wants his to pause it back, which is thirteen thousand pounds.

1102
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Originally I put down a deposit of ten thousand, but

1103
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: looking around the house and packing up his moving van

1104
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: load of stuff personal items, I have very little of.

1105
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: Most of my money was used for the house and

1106
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: brings the total amount that I put into the house

1107
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: to about thirty thousand pounds UH, including my parents' contribution.

1108
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: He said that the money myself and my parents put

1109
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: in doesn't matter, as it was for him too. He's

1110
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: been making my life a living heck since with acting

1111
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: up in front of people like a torn man and

1112
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: then approaching and threatening me with legal action, not caring

1113
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: that I would be homeless with numerous animals. The reason

1114
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: I write this is because I know I'll not be

1115
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: able to move on and recover unless I get his

1116
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: name off the mortgage so he no longer is tied

1117
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: to me, I was being too generous with what he

1118
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: could take from the house until I found out that

1119
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: he's been painting me in the wrong to everyone else.

1120
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this story.

1121
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: Any final thoughts lawyer, yeah, lawyer.

1122
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: Lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer, lawyer.

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00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Lawyer, yes, lawyer. But also be very careful about your

1124
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: next relationship, because it seems like you know, you were

1125
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: twenty year young, got into this relationship, moved a little

1126
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 2: bit oh too quick, just for your next one. Don't

1127
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: rush into buying a home with someone that you've only

1128
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: been into a relationship with for a year. Don't let

1129
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: people convince you of how to spend your money if

1130
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: you don't think that's wise.

1131
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: Did also, yeah, did Opie say, I don't remember a recall.

1132
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: Did Opie say she lived with him prior to this

1133
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: or they just moved like they bought the house.

1134
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: They bought the house a year into the relationship.

1135
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: But did they say did she say, like, oh, we

1136
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: lived together like a couple months?

1137
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't think so, because that's yeah,

1138
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: that's like a real like they hadn't even lived together first.

1139
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: Because that's a huge thing like to get in like

1140
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: there's one staying with your partner, but like living with

1141
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: your partner, that's when they you see their true colors

1142
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: and which we've got.

1143
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: It's like it's like level, it's it's being with a partner. Yeah,

1144
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: for a year, living with a partner, buying a house

1145
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: with a partner, like getting her pet and getting a pet,

1146
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: like these are all like huge steps and it seems

1147
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: like they they rushed into all.

1148
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: They jumped to the very last step or like one

1149
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: of the last steps, and they have pets. Yeah, oh man.

1150
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this story

1151
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: record everything, as Dutchess Cassanda says, has anyone experienced similar?

1152
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Does anyone know of legal way to get him off

1153
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: the mortgage without paying him the full thirteen K as

1154
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he is a title to the full

1155
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: amount and definitely does not deserve it either, as he

1156
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: got me to use my credit cards, running myself into

1157
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: debts while he enjoyed letting me know how much in

1158
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: savings he had and was going to look at getting

1159
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: himself a new car. I am out of debt now

1160
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: and starting to gain some savings back, but I just

1161
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: need him out of my life and off the mortgage

1162
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: without losing a full thirteen K if possible. Any help

1163
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: and advice is greatly appreciated, and there is no more

1164
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: to that story.

1165
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: That is the end of that story.

1166
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: Dang, good luck, O peep. Yeah, honestly, you might have

1167
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: to sue. You might have to get a lawyer for this.

1168
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: Not definitely sue.

1169
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent lawyer, one hundred percent record, Yeah,

1170
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent leave, Yes, one hundred percent new life.

1171
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: What's the type of situation that would make me just

1172
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna disappear. I need to start over

1173
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: to like Luxembourg. Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to

1174
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: the stories, but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

1175
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: My father cheated with twelve different women and expected my

1176
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: mother to pay for it.

1177
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: Well, she definitely paid for it emotionally.

1178
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: And this comes directly from the Okay subreddit. No, my

1179
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: thirty female dad fifty eight male has cheated on my

1180
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: mom fifty six female multiple times throughout their marriage. He's

1181
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: now fathered almost twelve children. I'm number seven. Only two

1182
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: of us are my mom's and he just got my

1183
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 2: little sister's mom pregnant again, by the way, this comes

1184
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: from series automatic five one seven zero. And if you

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00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: want to smit your own stories, go to the r

1186
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime, separate it and we'll try to give

1187
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: our best advice. But we haven't experienced most of these

1188
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: situations ourselves, so if you have, let us know what

1189
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: you would do in the comments and op says. Growing up,

1190
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: my mom was basically a single parent. He worked twelve

1191
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: hour shifts, seven days a week to provide for us

1192
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: while my dad was out cheating. I always said she

1193
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: was both the queen and the king in our home

1194
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 2: because she carried the weight of everything. My dad didn't

1195
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: help raise us or support the household in any meaningful way.

1196
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: Because of this, my childhood was far from normal. I

1197
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: worked four jobs as a teenager to help keep the

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: family afloat. My older brother ended up on the streets

1199
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: doing things that eventually landed him incarcerated. We sacrificed and

1200
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: struggled because my dad chose himself over his family. There

1201
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 2: was a brief period where my dad gave his life

1202
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: to Christ and we thought things had changed, but when

1203
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: my mom developed medical issues, he backslid. He started disappearing,

1204
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: stopped helping and went back to his old ways. My

1205
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: mom funded the house in our home country, and my

1206
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: dad already owes her over ten thousand dollars. Despite this,

1207
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: he recently ask my mom for money to come home.

1208
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: He sent him money, but he blew it on dates

1209
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: and dinners with the woman he cheated with. When I

1210
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: learned that my dad got someone younger than me pregnant,

1211
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: I got really angry. I told him it made me uncomfortable.

1212
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: His response, I had need.

1213
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: I was hungry.

1214
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: What do you expect me to do?

1215
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: He was hungry? Feed me seymore bro, I was hungry.

1216
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: You don't understand.

1217
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point, I'd be like cutting cutting dad off.

1218
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: That shattered any last outs of respect I had. Not

1219
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: only did he betray my mom, but his actions re

1220
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: traumatize me in ways he'll never understand.

1221
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: Is this, Frankallagher, that's crazy? Oh okay, Billy time, Okay,

1222
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: Billy time, that's crazy.

1223
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: This is actually shameless.

1224
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: Wow. I just think sometimes you gotta cut your losses

1225
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: with people.

1226
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1227
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: I think if your dad is like this, takes no accountability,

1228
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: continues to behave in this manner, I yeah, I don't think,

1229
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: like if you just can't respect it. I don't know

1230
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: if there's a relationship to be had with him right now.

1231
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: It's really tough though, and this is one of our owns.

1232
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I understand the feeling of wanting to

1233
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: being sad about losing that relationship and stuff, but I

1234
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: think that like putting up boundaries for your own sake is.

1235
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Important, very true.

1236
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: The disrespect, yeah, I mean, just to say that to you,

1237
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: the whole thing of like, h I'm hungry. What was

1238
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: I supposed to do that's so dispassed. When he asked

1239
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: for more money, I snapped, I told him, you can

1240
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: ask the women you cheated with for money to get

1241
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: back home, not my mom.

1242
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: Love that.

1243
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: I also said divorce papers would be waiting. That's when

1244
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 2: things exploded for the first time ever. He cursed me out.

1245
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: He said he's not the one to be messed with,

1246
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: and I shot back, no, I'm not the one you

1247
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: raised me to not be the one to mess with.

1248
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: He claims he's the king and my mom needs to

1249
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: no work place.

1250
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm not the one.

1251
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: I reminded him that he was never the king. My

1252
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: mom was the one who sacrificed, harried and provided. He

1253
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: only drained her I also told him he taught me

1254
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: exactly what kind of man I will never marry. So

1255
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: am I wrong for telling my dad? Enough is enough

1256
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: that if he can find his way into another woman's bed,

1257
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: he can find his way home without leeching off my mom?

1258
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: And you're very much not wrong.

1259
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: I told him what burn. He needed to hear that

1260
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: you told him what bur.

1261
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: He seems not like a He's not the best guy.

1262
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: He's a scumbag, dude, And you don't know action like

1263
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: a scumbag. He's behaving like a scumbag. He's a scumbag.

1264
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: But uh, that is the end of that story, folks.

1265
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: These comments come from the video My parents are Stocking

1266
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: Me twenty four to seven. This was posted on August

1267
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, and the TLDR is Opie's

1268
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 2: parents gave him his first phone but made him share

1269
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: his location twenty four to seven. He felt like a

1270
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: prisoner and wanted to protest by wearing a faink ankle

1271
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: monitor costume. Instead, he tried to give the phone back,

1272
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: which made his parents parents really upset. Now his phone

1273
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: is locked down so he can only call in text,

1274
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: and his parents renamed it ankle monitor. In Find My

1275
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: you learned that sometimes parents' rules aren't about trust, they're

1276
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: about worry and safety. I remember this story and I did.

1277
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: I Yeah, it was definitely like a sixteen year old move.

1278
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: So bomb dot Com twenty one sixty eighth had a comment,

1279
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: what bothers me most about the first story? Bless you?

1280
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: The first story is io OP, as far as we know,

1281
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: has shown no indication that there's a behavioral issue that

1282
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: would warrant the constant supervision. They've trusted OP up until

1283
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: that point that they got them the phone, and now

1284
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: suddenly they don't trust them enough to not have the

1285
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: tracking app on it. My grandparents made it a condition

1286
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: for me to keep my phone under their plan. I'm

1287
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: nineteen and plan to switch to my dad's phone plan

1288
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: until I can get my own to keep Life three

1289
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: sixty on my phone, which didn't make sense to me

1290
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: since they had me downloaded when I was seventeen and

1291
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: had already established that I wasn't going anywhere unsafe and

1292
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: that whenever I did leave the house, I checked in

1293
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: with my family first. And it's still a condition until

1294
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: I get on a different plan now that I'm an adult.

1295
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: My question is just how far the line will be

1296
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: drawn and why it was drawn to begin with.

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01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: Personally, my parents never gave me Life through sixty or

1298
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: never personally sixer no, but also personally as a parent,

1299
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do that either. It was

1300
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: the kind of where I was going with that.

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: However, I had a lot of friends when I was

1303
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: growing up in high school who did whose parents did

1304
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: make them put Life through Sixty on their phones, and

1305
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: they weren't like kids that were going off partying, sneaking

1306
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: out or anything.

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: I do remember the story because I was talking about

1308
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: we were talking about like how free we were as like, yeah, teenagers,

1309
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't going anywhere, but like my friends, like they all

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: had you know, Life through Sixty on their kids' phones

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Speaker 2: and stuff or on their phones, and I think it

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: is kind of just a parent to parent thing. And unfortunately,

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: I think that when you parents are paying for your

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01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: phone plan, they do a little bit get a say

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Speaker 2: and what you know, goes on your phone fifteen kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's like it sucks and when you turn eighteen,

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01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: yeah they should they should not have it still on

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Speaker 2: your phone. But I think it is just kind of

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Speaker 2: really fight back gets your parents who are paying for

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Speaker 2: your phone plan.

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Speaker 3: I remember we were having this conversation and it does suck,

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Speaker 3: but it's also you know, I did this as a

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Speaker 3: kid or as a teenager. I was like, I was

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Speaker 3: comparing my freedom compared to my friend's freedom where they

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Speaker 3: their parents were like, I have a phone, I can

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01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: go out and do this, I can do that, I

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Speaker 3: you know, And I was like, I don't get to

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, I'm like, sucks to suck. Yeah, I

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01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, mom, Dad, could I do that? No?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Because we said so?

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01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we said so.

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Speaker 1: I Uh.

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Speaker 3: Any other comment, Yes, another comment from Morgan Hunts thirty.

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Speaker 3: I was almost kidnapped three times. I was fifteen and

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Speaker 3: almost six feet tall. I had no phone and no

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Speaker 3: way of communicating or tracking.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you were fifteen and almost six feet tall

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Speaker 2: and people were trying to kidnap you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were probably trying to kidab you to turn

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Speaker 1: you into an athlete.

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Speaker 2: Shit, it was it was like d one athlete scout.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, that's really dramatic and that's awful and

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that happened to you.

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Speaker 3: Were named scout Morgan Hunts also continues, it was in

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: multi millionaire homes and amazing neighborhoods. I was walking to

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: school a very short distance. It takes ten seconds and

1348
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: you're gone forever. The police and FBI got involved. It

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01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: was the lower levels of a Oh it was a

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Speaker 3: trafficking ring.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's terrifying. Yes, I'm glad you're safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness. And hopefully they got that, get all,

1353
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: they got all of that.

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: So, and she continues, you should absolutely have tracking if

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Speaker 3: you're a kid out in the world. Later that month,

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Speaker 3: a middle school girl went missing. She was gone and

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 3: it was never solved, and once the FBI wasn't involved,

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: you never saw the same guys. Again, it's necessary, and

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Speaker 3: I think she also continues.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times it's not dramatic. It's

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: not about necessarily not trusting your kids, but about not

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Speaker 2: trusting other people.

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Speaker 3: And then she also continues, anyone who's completely against location

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Speaker 3: sharing should listen to more true crime. No, you don't

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: want to implement that, the true crime thing, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I think the reasoning

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01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: is safety and concern, which is one hundred percent I

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Speaker 3: agree with yeah, and there's you.

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Speaker 2: Know, there's a balance. But but that's the end of those.

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Speaker 3: Talments I think we have. Yeah, I mean that's that

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Speaker 3: we're good.

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