Speaker 1: Hey, it's Nikki. We left on a pretty dramatic moment
Speaker 1: last time. We'll pick up where we left off, but
Speaker 1: first I wanted to let you know that while you'll
Speaker 1: hear from a group of women who found community and
Speaker 1: purpose in the process of rallying together, this episode will
Speaker 1: include stories about violence, murder, suicide, and sexual assault. Some
Speaker 1: of the victims are miners, and you'll hear quite a
Speaker 1: lot of strong language. If you or someone you love
Speaker 1: has been affected by any of the themes in the show.
Speaker 1: We've left some links in the description that offer resources
Speaker 1: and support. Take care of yourself. Kadij and I remember
Speaker 1: exactly where we were on September fifteenth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think everyone in our community does.
Speaker 2: I think I was sitting in the living room and
Speaker 2: I got a phone call.
Speaker 1: I was in my bedroom. I got the text, and
Speaker 1: think got paced on my balcony, just back and forth.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just couldn't sit I just couldn't sit down
Speaker 1: because I just couldn't believe. I couldn't believe it was actually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was surreal. I definitely had a
Speaker 2: feeling that God was on duty. No, I always say
Speaker 2: God to be patient. God is on duty that morning.
Speaker 1: It really felt like he was because after years of campaigning,
Speaker 1: Roger Gallupski was finally in handcuffs. So George read him
Speaker 1: each of his charges, and in response, he seemed pretty animated,
Speaker 1: appearing shocked and surprise, raising his head and his eyebrows.
Speaker 1: Remember Ophelia Williams, the mother of twins who said Gallupski
Speaker 1: assaulted her after arresting her sons. She and an anonymous
Speaker 1: woman who also claimed Gallupski had assaulted her had quietly
Speaker 1: spent years working with the FBI to share information about
Speaker 1: what had happened to them. That helped build a case
Speaker 1: that led to Gazupski being arrested on the charges of
Speaker 1: kidnap and sexual assault on September fifteenth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: The documents filed for the case were damning. Ophilia and
Speaker 1: the anonymous woman who goes by s K described Glupski's
Speaker 1: abuse in depth. I won't go into the details, but
Speaker 1: it was violent, not consensual, and left both women traumatized.
Speaker 1: Gallupski is taken to his first court appearance on the
Speaker 1: day of his arrest. He pleads not guilty, but that
Speaker 1: September arrest is just the start when it hits the news.
Speaker 1: Kadija and I spend hours on the phone talking to
Speaker 1: people who want to share their Glupski stories. We redirect
Speaker 1: them to lawyers and watch on in awe as we
Speaker 1: realize the work we've dedicated years of our lives too
Speaker 1: is finally moving things in the right direction. It isn't
Speaker 1: all plane selling, though. Gallupski has a range of health issues,
Speaker 1: including kidney failure, which requires regular dialysis, so he's put
Speaker 1: on house arrests as he awaits trial. There is a
Speaker 1: lot of controversy surrounding that house arrest. Some of the
Speaker 1: victims are outraged that he's allowed to stay living at home,
Speaker 1: and in January twenty twenty four, someone takes a photo
Speaker 1: that shows Gallupski out at a fast food place. Trips
Speaker 1: out to a burger joint were not included in the
Speaker 1: terms of a house arrest for a man accused of
Speaker 1: serious violent crimes, but we push all of that to
Speaker 1: the side and stay focused on our goal. Justice of
Speaker 1: philia in the anonymous victim's case meant a lot to us.
Speaker 1: It only involved two victims, but we knew that if
Speaker 1: Gulubski was found guilty, it could open the floodgates for
Speaker 1: even more women to get their day in court. So
Speaker 1: we were hopeful, but that anticipation came with nerves.
Speaker 2: I think for about a week straight. I went to
Speaker 2: bad crying, and I woke up crying. It's just like
Speaker 2: you could feel something in the air.
Speaker 1: Emotions were running high. We were anxious and felt a
Speaker 1: little off balance, but we were determined to see it
Speaker 1: through because after years of investigating and fighting for justice,
Speaker 1: the first day of Roger Glubski's trial was finally here.
Speaker 1: On the morning of December second, twenty twenty four, a sharp,
Speaker 1: icy chill descends over Kansas City, Kansas. It's the first
Speaker 1: truly cold day of the winter, and if I didn't
Speaker 1: need to be out of the house by nine am,
Speaker 1: I would stay inside. But this is the day we've
Speaker 1: all been waiting for, and no amount of ice, wind
Speaker 1: or snow can stop me from driving over to the
Speaker 1: Topeka courthouse. I get into my car, but the GPS
Speaker 1: is playing up. It keeps sending me to the wrong place.
Speaker 1: So I call Kadija and we agree to meet up
Speaker 1: just before the trial begins.
Speaker 2: And in a car we talked about how luting of
Speaker 2: a day it was it was probably the worst day
Speaker 2: of the year, right now, Oh you know if that
Speaker 2: day was cold.
Speaker 1: Kadizu arrives a little earlier than me. It's around nine
Speaker 1: to twenty five am when our taxi pulls up outside
Speaker 1: the courthouse. She steps into the courthouse to warm up,
Speaker 1: stands in the reception to shelter from the cold. But
Speaker 1: when she walks in, she's greeted by a staff member
Speaker 1: who tells her that things aren't going according to plan.
Speaker 1: The trial isn't going to start on time. Why go?
Speaker 2: Lucie is missing, and I'm like, he's missing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: At this point my jaw is like what.
Speaker 1: I'm Nikki Richardson from The Teams A novel and iHeart podcast.
Speaker 1: This is the Girlfriend's Untouchable, You big guy, Episode seven,
Speaker 1: The Reckoning. When I park outside the courthouse that morning,
Speaker 1: Kadija heads straight towards my car.
Speaker 2: They can't find his ass.
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: They can't find him?
Speaker 2: Work? They can't find him. Stay about to issue a
Speaker 2: warrant and go look for this motherfucker? Are you safe?
Speaker 2: I'm serious? Have my whole mouth drop who.
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be keeping hands on him? I don't
Speaker 1: fucking know Glupski was on house arrests with the understanding
Speaker 1: that he would make his own way to court. But
Speaker 1: his car isn't parked outside the courthouse and he's not
Speaker 1: picking up his phone, so the judge presiding over the
Speaker 1: trial puts out a warrant for his arrest. Kadiza tries
Speaker 1: to explain it to me, but it just doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 2: NICKI all the shit I was not expected.
Speaker 1: Keeping track of him he is. I'm so dumbfounded. This
Speaker 1: was just not what I expected. Kadija and I are
Speaker 1: at a complete standstill for a moment, trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what to do while we wait for Glupski to arrive.
Speaker 1: You hungry, No, damn, Nikki, I don't even I mean,
Speaker 1: my my brain was already prepared to go sit in court.
Speaker 2: They said if they could find him about one o'clock.
Speaker 1: Then they would they would try to continue on with
Speaker 1: the trial. Well, he's gonna have some explaining to do.
Speaker 1: I mean that already starts him off real bad. Even
Speaker 1: if they do find him.
Speaker 3: I think this motherfucker's dog.
Speaker 2: He had probably left the fucking guns me though she
Speaker 2: ain't coming. You know, Niko has a crazy ass sixth sense.
Speaker 2: But she kept saying it's gonna be shit. She kept
Speaker 2: saying it to me, And here where we are.
Speaker 1: While Kadija and I sit in the car waiting for
Speaker 1: Gulupski to be found and brought to court, Nico is
Speaker 1: at home. She had been anxiously tossing and turning her
Speaker 1: way through the early morning.
Speaker 3: The day before his trail that Sunday. I could not sleep,
Speaker 3: I couldn't I couldn't rest.
Speaker 1: Nico desperately wanted justice for her younger self, her older
Speaker 1: sister Stacy, and all the women she loved and lost
Speaker 1: whose lives had crossed paths with Roger Gallupski. Gallupski going
Speaker 1: on trial felt like the first step towards that.
Speaker 3: I had a feeling of like butterflies, all kind of
Speaker 3: emotions was going through me. I just was able to
Speaker 3: go to sleep. At about seven or eight that morning.
Speaker 1: She can't fall into a deep sleep, so she glances
Speaker 1: over at her phone.
Speaker 3: I had about twenty misco.
Speaker 1: Kadija and I are still sitting in the car trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what's gone wrong. But then we get
Speaker 1: a call.
Speaker 2: Nico called me cry and she said her, lay, You're
Speaker 2: told her he's dead.
Speaker 1: It's nine to fifty five am. We're supposed to be
Speaker 1: sitting in court in five minutes, but according to Nico
Speaker 1: and her lawyer, Roger Gulupski is dead. Kadiji and I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do, so we just sit in
Speaker 1: the car, shell shocked as we try to wrap our
Speaker 1: minds around it. That must have been in shields I
Speaker 1: felt this morning. We sit on our phones desperately refreshing
Speaker 1: the news for an official statement, details or an explanation,
Speaker 1: and then I get a text. He was found dead
Speaker 1: in his home where you found out?
Speaker 2: Guys might just message to me.
Speaker 1: Details slowly begin to filter through. At six am that morning,
Speaker 1: Roger Gulubski wakes up to get ready for the first
Speaker 1: day of his trial. At seven oh three am, he
Speaker 1: calls up his son Matthew and tells him he is
Speaker 1: not strong enough to do this. Still, he gets dressed
Speaker 1: and prepares to head over to the courthouse. At around
Speaker 1: eight twenty am, he takes a call from his lawyer's office.
Speaker 1: It lasts one minute and eleven seconds. At eight thirty
Speaker 1: he leaves the house and gets into his twenty eleven
Speaker 1: red fod Taurusts. He makes his way down Ninth Street
Speaker 1: to Edwardsville Drive, but doesn't reach the interstate. Instead, he
Speaker 1: hits around about and heads back home. At nine oh one,
Speaker 1: he calls his attorney again. They talk for a few minutes,
Speaker 1: the call ends. Glupski's lawyer's office tries to call him
Speaker 1: four more times, but he doesn't pick up. A few
Speaker 1: minutes later, a nine to one one call comes from
Speaker 1: the woman who's been living with Gallupski during his house arrest.
Speaker 1: She tells the operator that she was inside when she
Speaker 1: heard a loud bang. She says she ran out of
Speaker 1: the house and onto the back porch. According to her,
Speaker 1: Roger Glubski is sitting on the floor, still holding a pistol.
Speaker 1: He was pronounced dead at nine to eighteen am, just
Speaker 1: forty two minutes before we thought we would be in
Speaker 1: court for jury selection. The cause of death suicide. Kadija
Speaker 1: and I sitting shock as we read the news.
Speaker 2: Wow make you said, like you drop a motherfucker to
Speaker 2: kill yourself just a little bit, don't it Just it's
Speaker 2: it's not the best feeling in the world. It's a
Speaker 2: fucked up, fast feeling right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's not the way I expected it to.
Speaker 2: End on the day of motherfucker, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: I mean, at least let them have their day in court,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't gonna let anybody have that satisfaction.
Speaker 2: We didn't know what to do really from there. We
Speaker 2: kind of just sat with it on the side of
Speaker 2: the road for probably about five minutes. For we we
Speaker 2: did anything, just sitting there, like in Ah. It felt
Speaker 2: like life was sucked out of Topeka. It's probably on
Speaker 2: the news.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be.
Speaker 2: It's kind of work. What we doom?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: What the fuck we do? I don't know? Mm hm.
Speaker 1: As soon as the news breaks that Roger Glupski is
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories start coming out.
Speaker 2: Is he really dead?
Speaker 4: That's like one of the biggest questions to me, because
Speaker 4: he felt as though he was very untouchable.
Speaker 1: That's Trina Cooper who we heard from last time. Her mother, Dorothy,
Speaker 1: was murdered in the eighties and Glupski was the officer
Speaker 1: she met while trying to reopen the investigation.
Speaker 2: I have questions, That's why I ask, like, is.
Speaker 1: He really dead? Trina isn't the only one who doubts
Speaker 1: the official statement about what happened that morning. We hear
Speaker 1: theories all day. Some people think Gallupski's hiding out in
Speaker 1: rural Kansas, living with distant relatives in Missouri. Others say
Speaker 1: he's taken a flight and fled to a country that
Speaker 1: doesn't have an extradition treaty with America. But there's another
Speaker 1: theory that starts to gain a lot of traction amongst
Speaker 1: the community.
Speaker 4: If he is dead, someone took his life. Well, Gulupski
Speaker 4: taking his own life. No, you can't give me believe that.
Speaker 4: And I really feel as though it happened because everyone
Speaker 4: else was going to be exposed.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. It's a theory. I consider that morning,
Speaker 1: Glupski's trial had the potential to implicate and expose other people,
Speaker 1: potentially dangerous, powerful people. In the moment, Kadija and I
Speaker 1: can't help but wonder whether there was a person or
Speaker 1: group of people desperate enough to protect themselves that they
Speaker 1: would want Gallupski dead. But we never get evidence to
Speaker 1: give weight to any of those theories, so we sit
Speaker 1: with the official statement that Glupski's death was a suicide.
Speaker 1: The rest of that morning is a whirlwind. We spend
Speaker 1: hours on the phone talking to the Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: who reached out to see how they could support us,
Speaker 1: and we spoke to lists looking for more information.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know if you heard the news, but
Speaker 2: Roger Glusi didn't show off of court this morning and
Speaker 2: they found him dead in his home.
Speaker 1: To clarify, Kadijia and I are not lawyers or public officials. Still,
Speaker 1: that morning, we find ourselves being called upon like unofficial spokeswomen,
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, it's kind of stressful. By eleven am,
Speaker 1: the adrenaline rush is beginning to wear off, so we
Speaker 1: make an executive decision to drive across Topeka and get
Speaker 1: some lunch.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go with the burger with cheese.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think how big my stomach is about
Speaker 1: to be. Let's just do a fullord of biscuits and gravy.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most disappointing days of our lives.
Speaker 1: But for most people in that diner, it's just a
Speaker 1: regular Monday. They're grabbing lunch, seeing friends and having casual conversations.
Speaker 1: Their indifference underscores how fucking surreal our day has been.
Speaker 1: After a frantic morning outside the courthouse, things are finally
Speaker 1: beginning to slow down, and for the first time since
Speaker 1: hearing the news, we just sit down and eat and
Speaker 1: open up about how we're really feeling.
Speaker 2: I couldn't find all this, and I think it's because
Speaker 2: my spirit kind of met could feel the intensity of it.
Speaker 1: It's such a tragic ending, I mean, because if he
Speaker 1: wanted to end it, he could have ended in it.
Speaker 2: It didn't have to be the day of the pluck
Speaker 2: and drown.
Speaker 1: You just have so many questions, but that has been
Speaker 1: this entire process. Is just having so many questions, and
Speaker 1: it just feels so unresolved, you know, because there's no
Speaker 1: justice at this point, because at least they're able to
Speaker 1: at least it's suicide and the mission of guilt. No, no,
Speaker 1: unless he left the known with the confession.
Speaker 2: I'm really worried about Nitho.
Speaker 1: He too, worried about all of them.
Speaker 2: Really, Niko, Yeah, Nico, Vones, matter of fact, Len he called.
Speaker 3: Them n.
Speaker 2: Hey, Nico, how are you feeling bad?
Speaker 5: Hurt?
Speaker 2: And I'm angry?
Speaker 1: He said, your hurt and you're angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Gulupski's trial was supposed to last weeks and end on
Speaker 1: January fifteenth, twenty twenty five. One day before the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of Nico's older sister Stacy's murder. Nico had
Speaker 1: thought the trial ending with Gulupski behind bars would give
Speaker 1: her a sense of closure, but him killing himself before
Speaker 1: he could face up to what he'd done devastated her.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to face him and ask
Speaker 3: him why and why is he lying? Asking him, plead
Speaker 3: with him to tell the truth on up to what
Speaker 3: you've done. You have lived your life. I wanted an
Speaker 3: apology for everything that he's done.
Speaker 1: The reality of the situation is beginning to sink in
Speaker 1: for Niko. There isn't going to be a trial. Glupski
Speaker 1: is never going to see his day in court, and
Speaker 1: after a lifetime of heurt, his victims still aren't going
Speaker 1: to get the justice they deserved. She isn't the only
Speaker 1: one feeling that way. LaMotte McIntyre spent twenty three years
Speaker 1: in prison after being arrested by Roger Glupski, who had
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted his mother Rose. It was getting ready to
Speaker 1: drive over to Topeka in anticipation of the first day
Speaker 1: of the trial when he heard the news.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to see him face his accusers. And
Speaker 6: face the people who he had wrong. That's what the
Speaker 6: just system is designed to do, to help the victims
Speaker 6: of society get justice by way of the people who
Speaker 6: wronged them. And I was expecting my mother to experience that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I felt like I was robbed. I lost something. For
Speaker 6: a moment, I feel like share lots of opportunity to
Speaker 6: face my accuser or face this man who did this
Speaker 6: shit to my mom.
Speaker 1: As Kadejah and I sit in the diner eating lunch,
Speaker 1: we get calls from victims, survivors, witnesses, and loved ones
Speaker 1: reaching out to us for answers, but we don't have them.
Speaker 1: For a while, we'd allowed ourselves to believe that if
Speaker 1: we worked hard enough, pushed the right people, and kept fighting,
Speaker 1: we could change things, prove that nobody, even a powerful
Speaker 1: police officer, was untouchable. But it doesn't feel true now.
Speaker 2: I just wish I could go somewhere and just scream,
Speaker 2: Like if we could just go somewhere and just scream,
Speaker 2: just like over and over, just scream.
Speaker 1: It's a tough morning, but as we work through our emotions,
Speaker 1: we come to some conclusions. It isn't our fault that
Speaker 1: Gelupski is dead or that the authority supervising his house
Speaker 1: arrest failed to find and confiscate his gun. The women
Speaker 1: of Kansas City, Kansas have been failed time and time
Speaker 1: again by the authorities meant to protect them. But we
Speaker 1: can't lose hope, even in the midst of what feels
Speaker 1: like an impossible situation. Because ksey K is our home.
Speaker 1: We love it too much to give up. We have
Speaker 1: no tree choice but to channel our despair into determination.
Speaker 1: So we dry our tears, leave the diner, and get
Speaker 1: to work.
Speaker 5: I got you, I Got You.
Speaker 1: The months that followed Glupski's death were unsettling. The authorities
Speaker 1: didn't come forward with a solid explanation for how Glupski
Speaker 1: had been able to get and keep a gun on
Speaker 1: house arrest. Kadija and I kept rewinding the tape, playing
Speaker 1: the years leading up to his death back in our
Speaker 1: minds and trying to figure out what could have been
Speaker 1: done to get justice sooner. We hope that if we
Speaker 1: could trace things back to the start, we might be
Speaker 1: able to figure out what to do next. So as
Speaker 1: we tried to make sense of Glupski's death and the
Speaker 1: questions that left us with, we turned to the only
Speaker 1: concrete thing. We had the dozens of interviews, folders worth
Speaker 1: of evidence, and numerous affidavits that had been collected over
Speaker 1: the years. We were looking for answers, or at least clues,
Speaker 1: anything we might have missed the first time around. We
Speaker 1: wanted to find something that might give the dozens of
Speaker 1: women whose stories we've heard some form of closure or
Speaker 1: better yet, justice, whatever that might look like. Digging through
Speaker 1: the files, we came across the formal statement made by
Speaker 1: one of the police officers who worked with Glupski, Max Seifert.
Speaker 1: When we spoke to him, he confirmed that many people
Speaker 1: turned a blind eye to what Glupski was doing during
Speaker 1: his time working for the KCKPD. In his statement, Max
Speaker 1: go's so far as to say all of the detectives,
Speaker 1: along with older officers and the commanders, all knew. No
Speaker 1: one in the department questioned Gulupski's conduct, No one raised
Speaker 1: any questions about whether it was proper or could cause
Speaker 1: a problem of any kind. This was not news to us,
Speaker 1: but still it was shocking to see it on paper,
Speaker 1: see a legal document that outlined how people and positions
Speaker 1: of power had seemingly allowed this to happen. There was
Speaker 1: something else in Max's declaration that jumped out to us.
Speaker 1: He draws attention to the fact that these women were
Speaker 1: often poor and vulnerable, and that Gallupski would be seen
Speaker 1: in places like housing projects or while leaving cheap hotels
Speaker 1: where prostitutes were known to serve their customers housing projects.
Speaker 1: We knew he targeted vulnerable women, but how far did
Speaker 1: he take it? As we dug a little deeper, we
Speaker 1: came across the statement of someone we'd never heard of before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you seen this before? I think this is the
Speaker 1: first time I've seen this.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I've seen it.
Speaker 1: It was a six page affidavid signed by a woman
Speaker 1: named Tina Peterson. It formed part of the case Lamont's
Speaker 1: team brought a few years ago to sue the Unified
Speaker 1: government for their role in his false conviction. You reading
Speaker 1: it now, Yeah, I'm starting to make some connections that
Speaker 1: are made me very right. Tina's affidavid jumped out at
Speaker 1: us because her story takes us back to the mid
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, right around the time that Gelupski was becoming
Speaker 1: a detective. Back then, Tina was working as a victim
Speaker 1: advocate at an emergency refuge in Kansas City. It's now
Speaker 1: called the Dela Gill Joyce H. William Shelter for Survivors
Speaker 1: of domestic violence. Hundreds of women came through its doors
Speaker 1: looking for an empathetic ear and a safe place to sleep.
Speaker 1: Tina's words are read by an actor.
Speaker 5: I generally worked the overnight shift. That shift tended to
Speaker 5: be pretty busy, as women seeking shelter often arrived late
Speaker 5: at night.
Speaker 1: Tina saw women walking through the shelter in varying states
Speaker 1: of distress.
Speaker 5: Then not only showed signs of physical abuse, they also
Speaker 5: showed signs of emotional or mental abuse. I listened for
Speaker 5: hours to these women, providing counseling and support. One name
Speaker 5: came up repeatedly, Roger Glubski. They would often be crying, shaking,
Speaker 5: or showing other intense emotions. During these emotional discussions, they
Speaker 5: would describe being sexually harassed, threatened, and coerced by Glubski.
Speaker 5: Some described being humiliated when Gallupski dumped them back on
Speaker 5: the street, still undressed when he was done with them.
Speaker 2: Heart Wren right on point with the way I've seen
Speaker 2: some of these victims display. Their insecurity is about this guy.
Speaker 2: Their fears about it. I mean the shaking, the quiverness
Speaker 2: in their voice, and how traumatized these women are because
Speaker 2: a lot of people can't I don't know if they
Speaker 2: don't want to deal with it in her head about
Speaker 2: the trauma that these women are faced. But it's horrific.
Speaker 1: It really is a real life horror story. We knew
Speaker 1: about the abuse, we'd heard the stories from the cemeteries,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't what Tina saw at those shelters that
Speaker 1: jumped out of us. It was what she did. Next.
Speaker 5: I called the police department so I could make a
Speaker 5: complain about Roger Glubski and told the person who answered
Speaker 5: that I worked at the battered women's shelter. The person
Speaker 5: on the phone said that someone at the department would
Speaker 5: get back with me, and as requested, I left my
Speaker 5: name and phone number. I waited a week and called
Speaker 5: the police department the second time. No one from the
Speaker 5: department ever called me back.
Speaker 2: This is horrific. This is horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel for Tina because I know you
Speaker 1: don't work at a batter women's shelter for no reason.
Speaker 1: That's not just a job that you just pick up
Speaker 1: on the side. You take on that job because you
Speaker 1: have a heart for people, or either you've been down
Speaker 1: that bread down that road. She was connected to these women,
Speaker 1: so I could only imagine Tina's frustration. They're coming to
Speaker 1: this shelter for help. This woman is there to help,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to help by going to the entity
Speaker 1: that is they're doing the harm. But if so many
Speaker 1: people are given this same name over and over, over
Speaker 1: and over again, this person had no other choice but
Speaker 1: to go to the police department because that is where
Speaker 1: you go when there's a crime. But where do you
Speaker 1: go when the police is the person committing the crime?
Speaker 1: Where do you go? We tried to reach out to
Speaker 1: Tina directly. We haven't been able to track her down.
Speaker 1: But if the events in Tina's affidavit are accurate and
Speaker 1: the other people's accounts we've read are true, the KSEYKPD
Speaker 1: either overlooked or ignored several complaints. Had they acted sooner,
Speaker 1: pulled Glupski from his duties and conducted a formal investigation,
Speaker 1: it's possible that they could have protected the women of
Speaker 1: Kansas City from decades worth of abuse. If Gulupski had
Speaker 1: been stopped in the mid eighties, he would have never
Speaker 1: been able to lure Nico's sister Stacy into his police
Speaker 1: car and assault her. He wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: arrest LaMotte McIntyre or intimidate Nico into giving false testimony.
Speaker 1: And Ronda and Monique, Nico's friends who were murdered shortly
Speaker 1: after she saw them get into Glupski's car. Both of
Speaker 1: their lives ended in nineteen ninety eight. It was a
Speaker 1: devastating realization. So many people's lives would have turned out
Speaker 1: differently if Gallupski had been stopped sooner. But there's something else.
Speaker 1: We were about to read the next part of Tina
Speaker 1: Zaffa David and discover even more about Glupski, that he
Speaker 1: may have been involved with something even darker than we
Speaker 1: could have possibly imagined.
Speaker 2: It just wouldn't have never cross my mind in that manner.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that.
Speaker 2: That magnitude that is wow, that much explosive. They cover
Speaker 2: up everything, They won't tell you nothing. It angered me
Speaker 2: once I realized that I could have been one of them.
Speaker 1: That's coming up on the final episode of The Girlfriends Untouchable.
Speaker 1: The Girlfriend's Untouchable is produced by novel for iHeart podcasts.
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Speaker 1: is narrated by me Nicki Richardson. It was written and
Speaker 1: produced by Rufaro Masarua. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Our
Speaker 1: assistant producer is Mohammed Ahmed. The researcher is Zaiyana Yusef.
Speaker 1: Production management from Shuri Houston and Joe Savage. The fact
Speaker 1: checker is Fendall Fulton. Sound design, mixing and scoring by
Speaker 1: Daniel Kimson with additional engineering by Nicholas Alexander. Music supervision
Speaker 1: by Rufaro Mazurura, Nicholas Alexander and Joe Wheeler. Original music
Speaker 1: by Amanda Jones. The Girlfriend's theme was composed by Amanda
Speaker 1: Jones and Louisa Gerstein. The voice of Tina Peterson was
Speaker 1: read by Ebanie Janelle. The series artwork was designed by
Speaker 1: Christina Limpool. Story development by Olivia Smart and Nel Gray Andrews.
Speaker 1: Novel's director of development is Selena Metta. Willard Foxton is
Speaker 1: Novel's creative director of Development. Max O'Brien and Craig Strachan
Speaker 1: are executive producers for novel. Katrina Norvel and Nikki Etour
Speaker 1: are the executive producers for iHeart podcast, and the marketing
Speaker 1: lead is Alison Cantor. Special thanks to Will Pearson, and
Speaker 1: a special thanks to Carley Frankel and the whole team
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