Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're ambition. Hey hey, Mandra,
Speaker 1: how you be.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. You hear the beautiful sounds of
Speaker 2: a daycare being closed for three days. I hope that
Speaker 2: they I hope that whatever paint they are painting and
Speaker 2: whatever training those teachers are getting, I hope that it
Speaker 2: is worth it for this. Yeah, homeboys home for three
Speaker 2: days in a row. And because you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: work from home business mom, that means I'm also a
Speaker 2: stay at home business mom at the same time. And
Speaker 2: everything is fair and equitable and feminism yay. We did
Speaker 2: have some really exciting news which will be great to
Speaker 2: like focus my brain on, which is there's like the
Speaker 2: there's the camp of people who are mad about this,
Speaker 2: and there's the camp of people who are just like
Speaker 2: thrilled about it. I choose to be.
Speaker 1: Can I make it a church announcement first?
Speaker 2: A church announcement? Yeah, you know, like just like so.
Speaker 1: I want to make a church announcement first to say
Speaker 1: thank you guys for all your support for Get Smart
Speaker 1: with Monday. So it comes out September sixth. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a screening, hopefully, manager you're able to come, I know,
Speaker 1: with all the baby and such. But it's going to
Speaker 1: be at NJ Packett, Newark on September sixth, which is
Speaker 1: a Tuesday, from six to nine thirty. It's free, you know,
Speaker 1: popcorn and stuff is on me. But even if you
Speaker 1: don't live in like the Newark, New Jersey area, we'll
Speaker 1: have a we'll have digital tickets that will also be free,
Speaker 1: and so just like look out for that. This is
Speaker 1: going to be airing on Wednesday. The tickets are going
Speaker 1: to drop on Thursday. Unlimited digital tickets, but three hundred
Speaker 1: physical in person tickets. Like I said, it's free to
Speaker 1: watch my new documentary alongside me and all of our
Speaker 1: amazing folks that you know who listen to this podcast
Speaker 1: and who are dream catchers and dream builders and mentees
Speaker 1: and such. So if you want to watch the trailer,
Speaker 1: head on over to Netflix at Get Good with Money.
Speaker 1: Make sure you click the ad or like this or something.
Speaker 1: It's like a button that you can add it to
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Speaker 1: with the with the metrics and the number. So I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. That's why I'm so tired because there's so
Speaker 1: many things happening. But yes, that's happening. And I just
Speaker 1: wanted to let that church announcement before we go because
Speaker 1: I have a different brown boost, so I didn't want
Speaker 1: to I did that brown boos last week, so I
Speaker 1: wanted to have it as a church announcement in the beginning.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so preach, preach um, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Body, No, that's okay. In congrats, that's exciting. You're gonna
Speaker 2: actually do like a party? Is there an after party?
Speaker 2: Where are we?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So there's a little there's like a cute restaurant,
Speaker 1: sauce bar at eng Pack is just a really it's
Speaker 1: called New Jersey Forming Art Center. So like you some
Speaker 1: of your faiths have performed there, you know, like Beyonce,
Speaker 1: I mean like that's the child, I guess and Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1: It's just a huge, you know place where there's going
Speaker 1: to be a concert in Newark. That's where it is.
Speaker 1: I will not be in that huge, huge, like their
Speaker 1: biggest theater I'm in something called the Chaser Room. But
Speaker 1: still it's super nice. It seats like three hundred or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's free n J pack September sixth,
Speaker 1: but I will drop the link on my socials on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and get you a free digital ticket
Speaker 1: or if you're in town or close by, a free
Speaker 1: in person ticket, and then we can you know, I
Speaker 1: can pretend like I like the fact you want to
Speaker 1: hug me.
Speaker 2: Well, you recently had COVID, so like you have your inoculation.
Speaker 2: Small blessings, small blessings. Oh, speaking of church, we're finally
Speaker 2: getting my heathen child baptized. So shout out to God.
Speaker 1: I looked to this SI to go on or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah the case, I don't want to be the reason
Speaker 1: that you're dan to health, danda, health, fire, damnation, what
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 2: Damnation and brimstone and all that kind of stuff. No,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't want to. Of course, you know
Speaker 2: I whatever faith you believe, and I believe in that
Speaker 2: with you and I'm here for it. But yeah, my
Speaker 2: husband's family is on the Catholic side, and he was
Speaker 2: the fact that he was a pandemic baby stopped being
Speaker 2: like a viable excuse. I don't know, like I mean,
Speaker 2: technically he's still not vaccinated all the way, so I
Speaker 2: feel like it's still a valid excuse. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: we are finally getting it together. He's he's two, so
Speaker 2: it's been a minute. And yeah, it was funny because
Speaker 2: we went to this like local church here and they
Speaker 2: have just been inundated by people who have moved to
Speaker 2: the suburbs from the city, and they're like, wow, we're
Speaker 2: very popular all of a sudden, you know, like all
Speaker 2: these people from the city coming up and I guess
Speaker 2: having like the pandemic baby boom now getting baptized. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna take a little I don't have to
Speaker 2: technically take a class. My husband was like, you better
Speaker 2: get ready. We may have to have a church wedding,
Speaker 2: like you may have to go to school. And I'm
Speaker 2: just like, fine, whatever it'll take for my mother in
Speaker 2: law to just be happy. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to the little class for godparents just to
Speaker 2: because I just want to be able to know exactly
Speaker 2: what's going on. But that's gonna be a little family
Speaker 2: affair at some point in September. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was asking and low ki, I was asking the
Speaker 2: the priest. I was like, so do you have like
Speaker 2: a water gun you're gonna chase him with? I do
Speaker 2: not see rio, you know, being cradled and you know,
Speaker 2: blessed with holy water in peace.
Speaker 1: But I also when I was baptized, I want to say,
Speaker 1: I was like I was old. I like walked on stage.
Speaker 1: I think I was like in kindergarten or something. So
Speaker 1: I was like four or five, you know. So I
Speaker 1: remember because I remember I loved my dress. I was like,
Speaker 1: get it, and you know, you know, but there was
Speaker 1: we weren't. I wasn't Dune, you weren't dunk. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like one of the pool ones. No. I just remember
Speaker 1: I think vaguely maybe he put order on my head
Speaker 1: or something like that, you know. But yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm want stage in front of everybody. Hey, hey, y'all
Speaker 1: you see me up here in my dress? Lay? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a big girl. I was literally
Speaker 1: walked off stage. Was like, hey, I don't need don't
Speaker 1: hold my hand. I got it. Oh okay, So so
Speaker 1: he's not like super old because I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why don't get waited so long?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get baptize at any age. But it's
Speaker 2: just like, but it's funny because my mom bought him
Speaker 2: like a little baptism suit when he was a baby.
Speaker 2: She got way too excited and uh, yeah, there's no
Speaker 2: way he's fitting into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real probaly couldn't fit into that when he was
Speaker 1: a baby. He was tall, he was born tall.
Speaker 2: Probably probably what am I just gonna, like spend a
Speaker 2: ridiculous amount of money on a white suit for him?
Speaker 2: Like that seems silly. I don't know what's going on. Hey,
Speaker 2: if you're listening and you've had a toddler baptized, what
Speaker 2: did you dress them in? So then I don't look
Speaker 2: a fool out there? All right, this concludes our church announcement.
Speaker 1: I like I would call that at the beginning like churchouse.
Speaker 1: Ah man, okay.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, can we get into student debt relief
Speaker 2: for a minute, because the people, the girls, the guys,
Speaker 2: the human beings, y'all, this that relief planned. I was saying, like,
Speaker 2: there's either the camp that is like pissed and mad.
Speaker 2: It's like either not enough or we shouldn't have the
Speaker 2: debt canceled at all. But I choose happiness. I choose optimism,
Speaker 2: and I choose to be happy.
Speaker 1: We're getting I choose you.
Speaker 2: I just listen. I'm one of those people. You are
Speaker 2: too tip Like our student loans have been paid off, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like that I feel happy for y'all. Like I
Speaker 2: don't feel I feel like if your loans were paid off,
Speaker 2: you were capable of paying them off, you know, like
Speaker 2: you made it happen. So it's not like like I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and calculate, well, what if I
Speaker 2: had put that eight seven hundred and ninety three dollars
Speaker 2: in the stock market, you know, instead of paying it off?
Speaker 2: What would I have now? Like I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just choose to be happy for people. So what
Speaker 2: kinds of what should we cover? Should we just go
Speaker 2: through like a quick roundup of what exactly it all entails?
Speaker 1: Yes we can.
Speaker 2: So starting with the amounts we got ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: If you have regular regular federal student loans, you're eligible
Speaker 2: for ten up to ten thousand dollars. And the up
Speaker 2: to is important because you know they love their fine print.
Speaker 1: Can we just come for just for a second. Can
Speaker 1: we paused to say, this is why we be telling
Speaker 1: the girls, like, if possible, if you have a choice
Speaker 1: between private and federal, girl would be telling you to
Speaker 1: go to federal. Wow, Because first of all, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to pay for basically three years we're
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be three full years that you
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay, and then this forgiveness component. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't have a choice. So obviously you know
Speaker 1: the private, right, bro, But to jump right into private
Speaker 1: we don't suggest, but this is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I just want them now when you know later
Speaker 1: for those of you who might be just going to
Speaker 1: college or whatever, like, and you're making these considerations, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the federal student loans over private student loans unless you
Speaker 1: don't have a choice.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, So starting with the amounts ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: or twenty thousand dollars, which one of those depends on
Speaker 2: what type of loans you have. So if you have regular,
Speaker 2: regular federal loans and you're eligible for up to ten thousand,
Speaker 2: and then if you are a pelgrant recipient, which most
Speaker 2: households who qualify or families who qualify for pelgrants tend
Speaker 2: to be on the lower income side. So if you're
Speaker 2: a pelgrant recipient, you are eligible for up to double
Speaker 2: but the income requirement, of course. I feel like they
Speaker 2: have the announcement out there about the income requirement, but
Speaker 2: I'm still getting questions from people like so, if you
Speaker 2: have earned up to one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: you are eligible if your household income. If your personal
Speaker 2: individual income is more than that, you're not eligible. And
Speaker 2: then for a household, so if you have a household
Speaker 2: of two earners, two adults earning and income collectively if
Speaker 2: you own, if you earn more than two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, then you are not eligible. So one
Speaker 2: twenty five or two fifty those are the magic numbers
Speaker 2: for eligibility. Yeah, I would encourage anyone. So my sister
Speaker 2: qualifies for this too, and I was like, student aid
Speaker 2: dot go slash debt relief is like the home base
Speaker 2: for all the knowledge, all the team.
Speaker 1: We say that again, man, one more games, who just
Speaker 1: grabbed a pan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, studentaid dot gov slash debt relief And if the
Speaker 2: site acts a little Craig Cray I think people crash
Speaker 2: it over the weekend because I was trying to get
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, you can go to ed dot gov
Speaker 2: and find your way there or white House dot gov.
Speaker 2: There's also a good and it's like on their homepage.
Speaker 2: There's a great fact sheet on white House dot gov.
Speaker 2: I think this is I feel like this is a meeting.
Speaker 2: Whenever there's a new program, it's like, do not if
Speaker 2: anyone calls you and they're like, pay me one hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: I'll get your application through. I'll make sure that you
Speaker 2: qualify for the student Debt Relief Plan. No, no, immediately, No,
Speaker 2: it's free. You don't have to do shit, I mean sorry,
Speaker 2: you don't have to do anything part of my friend
Speaker 2: to qualify other than call your student loan servicer and
Speaker 2: make sure that your information is up to date. Your
Speaker 2: income information, your phone, your address, your direct deposit, all
Speaker 2: that is up to date.
Speaker 1: You can do that.
Speaker 2: But as long as you hit those qualification markers, you should.
Speaker 2: It should be automatic for you. There may be a
Speaker 2: form that you have to sign up, sign up or sorry,
Speaker 2: apply for technically, but that's going to be available to everybody.
Speaker 2: And I think we're on the street as it's coming
Speaker 2: out in October.
Speaker 1: Okay, can we just talk about real quick the pettiness
Speaker 1: level of the White House. So there's like, you know,
Speaker 1: can we get in? So I don't know who's run
Speaker 1: in the White House. It's clearly a millennial or a
Speaker 1: z because I feel like ex's you know, we be
Speaker 1: following the rules. We're like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. So what happened was the number of probably
Speaker 1: in too of course, were criming every river about this,
Speaker 1: and they you know, were sharing like what will the
Speaker 1: farmers do? It was just so random, like people will
Speaker 1: have to pay for your you know, because you're getting
Speaker 1: loans forgiven people. It's going to the public is going
Speaker 1: to have to ingest those you know, the payments. And
Speaker 1: so the White House and supreme pettiness would reshare the
Speaker 1: person opposing this forgiveness plan with how much PPE loan
Speaker 1: of forgiveness they receive. So it's like this person's like
Speaker 1: they shouldn't get ten million, ten thousand, and then you
Speaker 1: see such and such was for had nine hundred thousand
Speaker 1: of PPE money forgiven. Marjorie whatever, that lady, crazy lady
Speaker 1: with with the blonde hair, you know, she had like
Speaker 1: one hundred something thousand a PPE loan forgiven. So it's
Speaker 1: like PPP sid PPE. I don't know why PPE is like,
Speaker 1: what is that in that?
Speaker 2: Like the personal protective equipment isn't in a long pandemic
Speaker 2: pneumonian terms. I got you, we know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So I just thought that. I was like wait. At first,
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was a joke, and
Speaker 1: because if people were sharing it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody just made this meme and no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: the actual White House account. Basically they did that. This.
Speaker 1: You remember when Will Smith smacked Chris Rock in the
Speaker 1: Black Constituents. Although we do not agree with Will Smith
Speaker 1: smacking Chris Rock, we are going to discuss it amongst ourselves,
Speaker 1: amongst family. You out there, you're not allowed to say
Speaker 1: nothing about Will Smith. Don't say none about Will Smith.
Speaker 1: And anyone who says something. People pulled up receipts to
Speaker 1: say this. You like Jim Carrey saying whatever Will Smith,
Speaker 1: but mean while he forcibly kissed like I think Christina
Speaker 1: Aguilera or somebody on stage, and they were like, Jim Carrey,
Speaker 1: this you okay, be quiet. Anybody who said a little anything.
Speaker 1: It's like, we're not saying Will is right. We're saying
Speaker 1: we're not talking to you. And so they pulled the
Speaker 1: immediate dissue and the White House did like, so you
Speaker 1: don't want regular people to have this ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: potentially up to twenty thousand dollars forgiven, but you can
Speaker 1: be forgiven. I just saw a clip about you know
Speaker 1: the dr you know, Boltimort of personal Finance that we
Speaker 1: don't mention his name. He was basically saying, how oh,
Speaker 1: this is just for the Biden administration to get you
Speaker 1: guys to like that before you know, midterms. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: probably right. I'm like, I mean, so give me dinner
Speaker 1: before you seduce me, right, take me out shoe and
Speaker 1: so you know where everybody's aware. And he was like,
Speaker 1: basically that people should be responsible for their own debt.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and yet when you go to DR's website,
Speaker 1: he literally has my bankruptcy story. He had a net
Speaker 1: worth of a million dollars. This is him his sanctioned
Speaker 1: website that the words there are words that he said, yes,
Speaker 1: put up here off of bankruptcy when he was in
Speaker 1: his mid twenties and he had a net worth of
Speaker 1: a million dollars. This is what his website says. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm confused. How do you say confused in Spanish?
Speaker 2: That might be confounded? But close enough, that's good.
Speaker 1: Closer You're I don't get because I'm just like, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, how are you going to apply for bankruptcy? Mister?
Speaker 1: I was a millionaire and then when the pores, including myself,
Speaker 1: well I'm not a poor but I was, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time. I would love my helth
Speaker 1: because this would have been so helpful when I needed it. No,
Speaker 1: not you. It's giving hypocrisy, it's giving patriarchy, it's giving selfishness.
Speaker 1: It's giving. I don't really care about people. I just
Speaker 1: care about myself and as long as I can get
Speaker 1: what I need to get, forget about everybody else. You know,
Speaker 1: it's giving. Dave Ramsey did we say his name? Am there?
Speaker 2: You go?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just to share that component too, that
Speaker 1: like some of the people are angry, and you know,
Speaker 1: but who cares if you if you qualify, you know,
Speaker 1: for some people, honestly, it's not even even nearly enough.
Speaker 1: I had a friend, she has her master, She owes
Speaker 1: six figures and she's like, girl, this is just a
Speaker 1: little dropping a bucket. I guess. So some people are
Speaker 1: saying it's not enough. Some people say it's too much.
Speaker 1: Some people are saying you shouldn't do it at all.
Speaker 1: But either way, it's happening. We still start somewhere. Yes,
Speaker 1: And you.
Speaker 2: Know what, it has been a long few years since
Speaker 2: Biden was elected. Has it been a few years. How
Speaker 2: many years has it been. It feels like seventy eleven. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it's been a minute, right, and at least finally we
Speaker 2: are seeing some action. Okay, we have had some gun reform,
Speaker 2: and it's never going to be enough for everybody, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, we have had this huge
Speaker 2: inflation Reduction Act that was just passed, which has you know,
Speaker 2: given so much more access to American households, like given
Speaker 2: you subsidies to invest in like electronic vehicles. That's the
Speaker 2: only thing that stands out to me because my husband
Speaker 2: has been hammering that home in my head ever since
Speaker 2: it was passed. But now we have the student debt
Speaker 2: relief now and I feel like progressives, like people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: it should be fifty k, it should be more but
Speaker 2: at least we started somewhere right. We said a president
Speaker 2: no pun intended, and I feel like, let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: We should also mention that it wasn't just about debt relief.
Speaker 2: This this I don't know this action that he took.
Speaker 2: It's also extending one final time your moratorium on federal
Speaker 2: student loan payments until the end of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: so one final time. And they were clear this time,
Speaker 2: one final time until December thirty first, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: and then payments will resume in January. And then also
Speaker 2: created a new income driven me payment plan right where
Speaker 2: it's five percent. It's based on your payments will be
Speaker 2: capped at five percent of your income, so very exciting things.
Speaker 1: It is exciting, you know, honestly, So hopefully people can
Speaker 1: lean into this and start to you know, get a
Speaker 1: little writer, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yes, And just one final announcement for again for the
Speaker 2: girls in the back, do not listen to your uncle
Speaker 2: at the cookout, even not just us, like go to
Speaker 2: White House dot gov, go to studentaid dot gov and
Speaker 2: get the information directly from the government websites and be
Speaker 2: sure that you were following all the proper protocols signing
Speaker 2: up so that you get the application when it's sent out,
Speaker 2: you know, being on top of this, just so you're
Speaker 2: not susceptible to any scams or people trying to take
Speaker 2: advantage of you, because that's what tend to happens. We
Speaker 2: saw it with PPP loans, We saw it with we
Speaker 2: see it with student loan relief, now you know. So yeah,
Speaker 2: just stay alert and let us know if y'all spot
Speaker 2: any scams, and we'll shout them out in a bad way,
Speaker 2: call them out.
Speaker 1: So we take a break.
Speaker 2: We will be right back with boost or break, y'all.
Speaker 1: And we're bless and back with brown boost brown Break.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do is you gonna boots stop break
Speaker 1: on you? Brown booths brown break. What we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Oh you gonna boostop break on you?
Speaker 2: No one ever knows that bird look at bad boys
Speaker 2: bad Yeah? Yeah yeah, police, no police. Why was appropriate
Speaker 2: television for like a seven year old? Because I was
Speaker 2: wat you look.
Speaker 1: Back at some of the things I was watching. I
Speaker 1: was like, what was I watching? First of all, I
Speaker 1: remember when Miss Cleo first came out with you. You
Speaker 1: were too young? No, I remember late night call me now.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was miss Cleo, but
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, I had just learned
Speaker 1: to use the phone because my parents taught me how
Speaker 1: to call in case something happened, and I just thought
Speaker 1: that you could just call phone numbers. Girl. When that
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars bill came in, my dad's like,
Speaker 1: who has been calling? And I'm like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that you paid. Girl. Anytime a phone
Speaker 1: number came across the screen, I ran in my car
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, hello, hello girl. Let's just say
Speaker 1: I hain't never called nobody again.
Speaker 2: Age brother in the era of Skinnemac and pay per view,
Speaker 2: let me just say, okay, we got a phone bill.
Speaker 2: I think he was like, it wasn't even like one
Speaker 2: of those sexy time phone hotlines that he called. It
Speaker 2: was like Victoria's secret customer service line that he called
Speaker 2: and some or something like that. Anyway, anyway, shout out
Speaker 2: to listen, no matter if it was smartphones. Before smartphones,
Speaker 2: kids have been finding a way to run a phone bills.
Speaker 1: Since if they not buying your rob lucks or whatever. Literally,
Speaker 1: Karen was like Roman was on her on her and
Speaker 1: his tablet, and she was like, did you just buy
Speaker 1: a game? He said, the other one's boring? He good
Speaker 1: at table She thought I had these you know, like
Speaker 1: you have these things on that people. The kids can't
Speaker 1: buy stuff. He thoughts that to buy what he wanted
Speaker 1: to buy, these kids will be running up your bill
Speaker 1: no matter what. So I'm going to boost this time.
Speaker 1: Well I think I boosted the last time too, but
Speaker 1: this actually just came across my time of the line.
Speaker 1: Let's see. I took a picture of it, so I
Speaker 1: went in I again photos, so I couldn't believe. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this real? It is apparently Nigeria shout out to
Speaker 1: the Nijabs, which I am, becomes the first country to
Speaker 1: ban white and British models in all advertising. They said,
Speaker 1: we have two hundred million beautiful people here. We will
Speaker 1: use our own. I've never had that before and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, because well here's the thing that that's like.
Speaker 1: So I think that's it's I think having your people
Speaker 1: reflected in advertising is critically important because it it is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why there's so much self hate
Speaker 1: because if you look and you're like, well, you're telling
Speaker 1: me that's what's beautiful and that doesn't look like me
Speaker 1: at all. And I will say I was actually surprised
Speaker 1: about that. I'm like, okay, all for representation, but I'm
Speaker 1: so because typically what I've gone to Nigeria, I haven't.
Speaker 1: You don't really see that's usually what you see. You
Speaker 1: see black people on ads. Now, what I really want
Speaker 1: Nigeria to do is ban lightening of skin, you know.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why they're doing this, because there's like
Speaker 1: an epidemic, if you will, of skin lightning. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gotten it. Before it used to just be creams
Speaker 1: and like, but you could tell because people's knuckles would
Speaker 1: be dark still because you can't really lighten the knuckles.
Speaker 1: So and then also too, the cream would lighten you
Speaker 1: in a very unnatural way, you know. And then people
Speaker 1: started taking pills that would like, I don't know, reduce
Speaker 1: your melanin. Yes, And now many people get IV fluids.
Speaker 1: There's like a like a medicine that you can take.
Speaker 1: There's actually a medicine you could take that actually make
Speaker 1: yourself darker, but there's also this like IV that you
Speaker 1: could take that makes yourself lighter. Like it's crazy and
Speaker 1: really dangerous and can mess up all parts of your
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that this is having advertisements that largely
Speaker 1: reflect like the population will allow people to see just
Speaker 1: how beautiful they are already. So I was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see with all that, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen that many non black
Speaker 1: people in advertisers in Nigeria. I mean it's only I've
Speaker 1: only been a few times and it's been a while.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering I would have to do some research.
Speaker 1: I just literally saw a chem across I would have
Speaker 1: to do some research. Is it as a result of
Speaker 1: the of the lightning epidemic that maybe people saw themselves
Speaker 1: more they wouldn't want to not look like themselves. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's.
Speaker 2: Not even I mean for me obviously I'm not Nigerian,
Speaker 2: but I feel like what we really need, well, what
Speaker 2: we need in addition to things like that, is how
Speaker 2: can we invest in young girls self love? Because I
Speaker 2: feel like when you are when you are growing, when
Speaker 2: you grow up in an environment where you're surrounded by
Speaker 2: women who love their skin, they love their hair, they
Speaker 2: love their bodies, then that it's like it's it's infusing
Speaker 2: you know, young girls who grow up and then they're
Speaker 2: not because the problem with advertising and even I mean
Speaker 2: like advertising is kind of old school, like everyone's on
Speaker 2: social media now. It's when we glorify you know, European beauty,
Speaker 2: you know, ideals, we're doing it like because we're seeing
Speaker 2: it and then we're thinking, oh, but I'm not that.
Speaker 2: So like it's really about can we get to a
Speaker 2: place where little girls can see, you know, Eurocentric beauty
Speaker 2: and just think, oh, that's good for her and I'm
Speaker 2: gorgeous and beautiful too, And I mean that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's like that's going to take generations. I think we
Speaker 2: need a generation, a couple of generations with a fair.
Speaker 1: There definitely is I mean when I was, there a
Speaker 1: hierarchy of like light skin is better, and it's like
Speaker 1: where does that come from? When the truth is the
Speaker 1: average person I'm like the average complexion, you know, for
Speaker 1: at least for like, you know, the part of Nigeria
Speaker 1: that my family's from. That Like, so it's like, well,
Speaker 1: where does that come from? You know? And I mean
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. The advertising is one thing, but
Speaker 1: there's still social media. There's still you know, you can't
Speaker 1: hyphenough to your point, it's like, well, if we're going
Speaker 1: to do the ads, can we do can we do
Speaker 1: ads where people are not lightening their skin? Let's denormalize
Speaker 1: that because.
Speaker 2: When you ban those products, like like a public health emergency,
Speaker 2: it is that you can even sell that shit on
Speaker 2: the shelves, because what would be the health use other
Speaker 2: than like, that's a wild to me.
Speaker 1: When I heard that people could take pills and ivs
Speaker 1: to do that, I'm like, what, Like, literally, if you
Speaker 1: look at there's some people like for example, you look
Speaker 1: at Sammy Sosa. You know he's a Dominican I believe,
Speaker 1: I'm a very famous baseball player, and like you see
Speaker 1: like the type of lightning that his skin has undergone.
Speaker 1: It's not something you can get from cream. You know
Speaker 1: that he's using something a more permanent, stronger method. And
Speaker 1: so it's like really like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Yes?
Speaker 2: And so is that what like little Kim was doing.
Speaker 2: It's a little little Kim.
Speaker 1: Oh dad, Yeah, I see Sadie Sosa. Do your Google's
Speaker 1: Mandy's looking at it? Now? Look at Mandy. I can
Speaker 1: say I can literally see your eyes go back many
Speaker 1: from I'm watching you. That's not the extreme.
Speaker 2: That isn't feel like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's people don't have access to that. So they're
Speaker 1: using these creams that break them out in rashes and girls.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we shall see how this work. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do some research to see it, Like is this
Speaker 1: in relation to like the skin like lightning like epidemic
Speaker 1: and that's why they're like, oh maybe I people could
Speaker 1: see themselves and like cause you know, typically advertisements they're
Speaker 1: there to say this is what's beautiful, and so that
Speaker 1: is that the purpose? And so if so, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's see. So yeah, that's my boosty breaky, like you know,
Speaker 1: the Nigerian has decided to try this and see how
Speaker 1: it goes. Yeah, we're gonna see.
Speaker 2: Well, I have like a semi related boost. I was
Speaker 2: gonna boost my girl Lizzo because not only did she
Speaker 2: win some MOONMN last night, I actually found I was
Speaker 2: like googling, like a boomer, how do you stream the
Speaker 2: vm as.
Speaker 1: I just wanted some entertainment with you and in Newark
Speaker 1: they tape it in Newark, which I'm like, eh, I
Speaker 1: look at us, Oh really nice?
Speaker 2: Okay, you were close by yeah, So I was streaming
Speaker 2: it and I caught her acceptance speech. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I forget what award. It was like song of the Year,
Speaker 2: Album of the Year, something for about damn time. And
Speaker 2: so there was this comic, this male comic I don't
Speaker 2: even know if I want to speak his garry spears
Speaker 2: something like that. I hadn't heard of him, I mean Shade,
Speaker 2: but nobody had I heard of him until he decided
Speaker 2: to use Lizzo in her platform to make sure that
Speaker 2: he became a headline. So he was like fat shaming
Speaker 2: her and sayg just really fun, I mean fucked up,
Speaker 2: fat phobic, misogynistic remarks about her body type and compared
Speaker 2: her to a just childish behavior like I have heard
Speaker 2: better jokes on the school bus okay in Henry County, Georgia.
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the bullies anyway, But Lizzo got
Speaker 2: up on stage to win her award, and she gave
Speaker 2: an epic performance in this like amazing pink catsuit whatever.
Speaker 2: She looked phenomenal, and she was like, I know, she
Speaker 2: said something to the effect of, is this the point
Speaker 2: where you guys want me to like shout out my
Speaker 2: haters or make a comment like I'm not gonna comment
Speaker 2: because bitch, I'm just winning yea and period period paragraphs.
Speaker 1: So the best for VEG is your paper. I sit
Speaker 1: if you don't Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Did she literally say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did not catch that part. Maybe I just thought
Speaker 2: quip anyway, Yeah, so love Lizzo. Shout out to her
Speaker 2: for that moment. And I mean, I feel like people
Speaker 2: like Lizo. I will shout out to Lizzo and Ashley Graham.
Speaker 2: And I'm on the right side of TikTok. I am
Speaker 2: in the full figured women's side of TikTok. There's so
Speaker 2: much positive body content out there if you guys look
Speaker 2: for it, Like there are incredible content creators, and they
Speaker 2: are just glorifying bodies that look like the ones that
Speaker 2: I see every day. Like I took my son to
Speaker 2: the pool this morning and I didn't even worry about
Speaker 2: shaven mellows because I just saw a TikToker yesterday, Like, ooh,
Speaker 2: regular girl at the pool, you know, pantylines not perfect,
Speaker 2: didn't go get wax. Like this is a reality, and
Speaker 2: people like Lizo. I think she's the queen of that
Speaker 2: body love self love movement because like I'm at this point.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm tired of choosing to feel shitty about
Speaker 2: the body that I have in the moment that I
Speaker 2: have it. And I was just like, in another thirty
Speaker 2: five years, when I'm seventy, I'm going to be looking.
Speaker 1: Back and be like, damn girl, like those it was fine, those.
Speaker 2: Like legging those knees, knees, walking upstairs.
Speaker 1: Elbow bend and will. So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as there's negativity out there, I do
Speaker 2: feel like there's such a safe space if you, if
Speaker 2: you find the right spaces on these internet streets, on
Speaker 2: social media where you can feel loved and be seen.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so shout out to Lizo, congrats on you
Speaker 2: deserve all trophies, and to all the creators who are glorifying. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's about damn time to glorify these body types.
Speaker 1: I love that, Okay, Yeah, I love it all right.
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