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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. You hear the beautiful sounds of

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Speaker 2: is worth it for this. Yeah, homeboys home for three

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Speaker 2: everything is fair and equitable and feminism yay. We did

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Speaker 2: have some really exciting news which will be great to

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Speaker 2: like focus my brain on, which is there's like the

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Speaker 2: there's the camp of people who are mad about this,

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Speaker 1: Can I make it a church announcement first?

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Speaker 2: A church announcement? Yeah, you know, like just like so.

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Speaker 1: I want to make a church announcement first to say

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for all your support for Get Smart

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Speaker 1: with Monday. So it comes out September sixth. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have a screening, hopefully, manager you're able to come, I know,

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Speaker 1: be at NJ Packett, Newark on September sixth, which is

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, from six to nine thirty. It's free, you know,

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Speaker 1: have a we'll have digital tickets that will also be free,

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Speaker 1: going to be airing on Wednesday. The tickets are going

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Speaker 1: to drop on Thursday. Unlimited digital tickets, but three hundred

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Speaker 1: physical in person tickets. Like I said, it's free to

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Speaker 1: watch my new documentary alongside me and all of our

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Speaker 1: amazing folks that you know who listen to this podcast

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Speaker 1: and who are dream catchers and dream builders and mentees

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Speaker 1: and such. So if you want to watch the trailer,

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Speaker 1: head on over to Netflix at Get Good with Money.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you click the ad or like this or something.

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Speaker 1: It's like a button that you can add it to

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Speaker 1: go to Netflix. Type in get Smart. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: Get Good with Money is my book? Type in Get

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Speaker 1: Smart with Money? What's the trailer? I guess but click

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Speaker 1: the little like add to list button there that helps

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Speaker 1: with the with the metrics and the number. So I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited. That's why I'm so tired because there's so

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Speaker 1: many things happening. But yes, that's happening. And I just

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, gotcha?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so preach, preach um, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Body, No, that's okay. In congrats, that's exciting. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: I like I would call that at the beginning like churchouse.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, can we get into student debt relief

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Speaker 2: I just listen. I'm one of those people. You are

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Speaker 2: What would I have now? Like I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just choose to be happy for people. So what

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Speaker 1: Yes we can.

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Speaker 2: So starting with the amounts we got ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: If you have regular regular federal student loans, you're eligible

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Speaker 1: Can we just come for just for a second. Can

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Speaker 1: we paused to say, this is why we be telling

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, So starting with the amounts ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: but the income requirement, of course. I feel like they

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Speaker 2: qualifies for this too, and I was like, student aid

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Speaker 2: dot go slash debt relief is like the home base

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Speaker 2: for all the knowledge, all the team.

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Speaker 1: We say that again, man, one more games, who just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, studentaid dot gov slash debt relief And if the

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Speaker 1: You can do that.

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Speaker 2: But as long as you hit those qualification markers, you should.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can we just talk about real quick the pettiness

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Speaker 2: Like the personal protective equipment isn't in a long pandemic

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Speaker 1: probably right. I'm like, I mean, so give me dinner

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Speaker 1: Closer You're I don't get because I'm just like, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, how are you going to apply for bankruptcy? Mister?

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Speaker 1: I was a millionaire and then when the pores, including myself,

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Speaker 1: because this would have been so helpful when I needed it. No,

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Speaker 1: not you. It's giving hypocrisy, it's giving patriarchy, it's giving selfishness.

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Speaker 1: It's giving. I don't really care about people. I just

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Speaker 2: You go?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just to share that component too, that

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Speaker 2: Know what, it has been a long few years since

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Speaker 2: and it's never going to be enough for everybody, you

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Speaker 2: it was passed. But now we have the student debt

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Speaker 2: We should also mention that it wasn't just about debt relief.

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Speaker 2: This this I don't know this action that he took.

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Speaker 2: It's also extending one final time your moratorium on federal

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Speaker 2: so one final time. And they were clear this time,

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Speaker 1: It is exciting, you know, honestly, So hopefully people can

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Speaker 2: Yes, And just one final announcement for again for the

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Speaker 1: So we take a break.

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Speaker 2: We will be right back with boost or break, y'all.

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Speaker 1: And we're bless and back with brown boost brown Break.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do is you gonna boots stop break

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Speaker 1: on you? Brown booths brown break. What we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Oh you gonna boostop break on you?

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Speaker 2: No one ever knows that bird look at bad boys

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Speaker 2: bad Yeah? Yeah yeah, police, no police. Why was appropriate

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Speaker 1: You don't really see that's usually what you see. You

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Speaker 1: see black people on ads. Now, what I really want

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Speaker 1: Nigeria to do is ban lightening of skin, you know.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's why they're doing this, because there's like

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Speaker 1: an epidemic, if you will, of skin lightning. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's gotten it. Before it used to just be creams

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Speaker 1: and like, but you could tell because people's knuckles would

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Speaker 1: be dark still because you can't really lighten the knuckles.

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Speaker 1: So and then also too, the cream would lighten you

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Speaker 1: in a very unnatural way, you know. And then people

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Speaker 1: started taking pills that would like, I don't know, reduce

439
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Speaker 1: your melanin. Yes, And now many people get IV fluids.

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Speaker 1: There's like a like a medicine that you can take.

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Speaker 1: There's actually a medicine you could take that actually make

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Speaker 1: yourself darker, but there's also this like IV that you

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Speaker 1: could take that makes yourself lighter. Like it's crazy and

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Speaker 1: really dangerous and can mess up all parts of your

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that this is having advertisements that largely

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Speaker 1: reflect like the population will allow people to see just

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Speaker 1: how beautiful they are already. So I was like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see with all that, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen that many non black

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Speaker 1: people in advertisers in Nigeria. I mean it's only I've

451
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Speaker 1: only been a few times and it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering I would have to do some research.

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Speaker 1: I just literally saw a chem across I would have

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Speaker 1: to do some research. Is it as a result of

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Speaker 1: the of the lightning epidemic that maybe people saw themselves

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Speaker 1: more they wouldn't want to not look like themselves. I

457
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Speaker 1: don't know, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not even I mean for me obviously I'm not Nigerian,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like what we really need, well, what

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Speaker 2: we need in addition to things like that, is how

461
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Speaker 2: can we invest in young girls self love? Because I

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Speaker 2: feel like when you are when you are growing, when

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Speaker 2: you grow up in an environment where you're surrounded by

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Speaker 2: women who love their skin, they love their hair, they

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Speaker 2: love their bodies, then that it's like it's it's infusing

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Speaker 2: you know, young girls who grow up and then they're

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Speaker 2: not because the problem with advertising and even I mean

468
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Speaker 2: like advertising is kind of old school, like everyone's on

469
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Speaker 2: social media now. It's when we glorify you know, European beauty,

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Speaker 2: you know, ideals, we're doing it like because we're seeing

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Speaker 2: it and then we're thinking, oh, but I'm not that.

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Speaker 2: So like it's really about can we get to a

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Speaker 2: place where little girls can see, you know, Eurocentric beauty

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Speaker 2: and just think, oh, that's good for her and I'm

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Speaker 2: gorgeous and beautiful too, And I mean that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's like that's going to take generations. I think we

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Speaker 2: need a generation, a couple of generations with a fair.

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Speaker 1: There definitely is I mean when I was, there a

479
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Speaker 1: hierarchy of like light skin is better, and it's like

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Speaker 1: where does that come from? When the truth is the

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Speaker 1: average person I'm like the average complexion, you know, for

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Speaker 1: at least for like, you know, the part of Nigeria

483
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Speaker 1: that my family's from. That Like, so it's like, well,

484
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Speaker 1: where does that come from? You know? And I mean

485
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. The advertising is one thing, but

486
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Speaker 1: there's still social media. There's still you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: hyphenough to your point, it's like, well, if we're going

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Speaker 1: to do the ads, can we do can we do

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Speaker 1: ads where people are not lightening their skin? Let's denormalize

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Speaker 1: that because.

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Speaker 2: When you ban those products, like like a public health emergency,

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Speaker 2: it is that you can even sell that shit on

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Speaker 2: the shelves, because what would be the health use other

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Speaker 2: than like, that's a wild to me.

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Speaker 1: When I heard that people could take pills and ivs

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Speaker 1: to do that, I'm like, what, Like, literally, if you

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Speaker 1: look at there's some people like for example, you look

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Speaker 1: at Sammy Sosa. You know he's a Dominican I believe,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm a very famous baseball player, and like you see

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Speaker 1: like the type of lightning that his skin has undergone.

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Speaker 1: It's not something you can get from cream. You know

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Speaker 1: that he's using something a more permanent, stronger method. And

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Speaker 1: so it's like really like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And so is that what like little Kim was doing.

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Speaker 2: It's a little little Kim.

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Speaker 1: Oh dad, Yeah, I see Sadie Sosa. Do your Google's

507
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Speaker 1: Mandy's looking at it? Now? Look at Mandy. I can

508
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Speaker 1: say I can literally see your eyes go back many

509
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Speaker 1: from I'm watching you. That's not the extreme.

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Speaker 2: That isn't feel like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's people don't have access to that. So they're

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Speaker 1: using these creams that break them out in rashes and girls.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so we shall see how this work. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do some research to see it, Like is this

515
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: in relation to like the skin like lightning like epidemic

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Speaker 1: and that's why they're like, oh maybe I people could

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Speaker 1: see themselves and like cause you know, typically advertisements they're

518
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Speaker 1: there to say this is what's beautiful, and so that

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Speaker 1: is that the purpose? And so if so, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: let's see. So yeah, that's my boosty breaky, like you know,

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Speaker 1: the Nigerian has decided to try this and see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. Yeah, we're gonna see.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have like a semi related boost. I was

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Speaker 2: gonna boost my girl Lizzo because not only did she

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Speaker 2: win some MOONMN last night, I actually found I was

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00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: like googling, like a boomer, how do you stream the

527
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Speaker 2: vm as.

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: I just wanted some entertainment with you and in Newark

529
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Speaker 1: they tape it in Newark, which I'm like, eh, I

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Speaker 1: look at us, Oh really nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you were close by yeah, So I was streaming

532
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: it and I caught her acceptance speech. I don't know,

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00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: I forget what award. It was like song of the Year,

534
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: Album of the Year, something for about damn time. And

535
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Speaker 2: so there was this comic, this male comic I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if I want to speak his garry spears

537
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: something like that. I hadn't heard of him, I mean Shade,

538
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: but nobody had I heard of him until he decided

539
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: to use Lizzo in her platform to make sure that

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00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: he became a headline. So he was like fat shaming

541
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: her and sayg just really fun, I mean fucked up,

542
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: fat phobic, misogynistic remarks about her body type and compared

543
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: her to a just childish behavior like I have heard

544
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: better jokes on the school bus okay in Henry County, Georgia.

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00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the bullies anyway, But Lizzo got

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: up on stage to win her award, and she gave

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00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: an epic performance in this like amazing pink catsuit whatever.

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00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 2: She looked phenomenal, and she was like, I know, she

549
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: said something to the effect of, is this the point

550
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: where you guys want me to like shout out my

551
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: haters or make a comment like I'm not gonna comment

552
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: because bitch, I'm just winning yea and period period paragraphs.

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00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: So the best for VEG is your paper. I sit

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Speaker 1: if you don't Beyonce.

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00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: Did she literally say that?

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00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: I did not catch that part. Maybe I just thought

558
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: quip anyway, Yeah, so love Lizzo. Shout out to her

559
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: for that moment. And I mean, I feel like people

560
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: like Lizo. I will shout out to Lizzo and Ashley Graham.

561
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: And I'm on the right side of TikTok. I am

562
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: in the full figured women's side of TikTok. There's so

563
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: much positive body content out there if you guys look

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00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: for it, Like there are incredible content creators, and they

565
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: are just glorifying bodies that look like the ones that

566
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: I see every day. Like I took my son to

567
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: the pool this morning and I didn't even worry about

568
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: shaven mellows because I just saw a TikToker yesterday, Like, ooh,

569
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: regular girl at the pool, you know, pantylines not perfect,

570
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: didn't go get wax. Like this is a reality, and

571
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: people like Lizo. I think she's the queen of that

572
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: body love self love movement because like I'm at this point.

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm tired of choosing to feel shitty about

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00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: the body that I have in the moment that I

575
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: have it. And I was just like, in another thirty

576
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: five years, when I'm seventy, I'm going to be looking.

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00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Back and be like, damn girl, like those it was fine, those.

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00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Like legging those knees, knees, walking upstairs.

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Speaker 1: Elbow bend and will. So.

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00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as there's negativity out there, I do

581
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: feel like there's such a safe space if you, if

582
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: you find the right spaces on these internet streets, on

583
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: social media where you can feel loved and be seen.

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00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, so shout out to Lizo, congrats on you

585
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: deserve all trophies, and to all the creators who are glorifying. Yes,

586
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: it's about damn time to glorify these body types.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Okay, Yeah, I love it all right.

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Speaker 1: You guys can listen to us every Wednesday, ask per usual,

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00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: bring a friend next time, don't come alone because you

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00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: know we're here. Also listen to us on Friday. We

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Speaker 1: have our Baqa brand and Bischen question and answer so

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Speaker 1: not to be missed. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So you can to check out a bit podcast. Oh

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, checkout tips documentary. Yes, her starring role in

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Speaker 2: a documentary called Get Smart with Money September sixth. While

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Speaker 2: you were talking about it, I went onto Netflix's app

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Speaker 2: because that's what I do when I'm having mommy time

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Speaker 2: in the bathtub, Okay, and I put the little bell

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Speaker 2: icon good where you get an alert?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Did I do it right? You can also share that?

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Speaker 2: So then I went and shared it on my Instagram. Okay,

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Speaker 2: soy mile okay, speaking of chocolate women doing the damn thing. Tiffany,

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Speaker 2: it's about damn time that you had a starring role

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Speaker 2: in a Netflix series. So September sixth, I'll send you

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Speaker 2: my bill for publicity later.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. How about y'all until next week.

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