1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot com. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: J J. Watt in the Backfield j J. Watt Baby 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: counter to the ten, to the five and end of 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the ends. One for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot com. Problem 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. Iin scart and nobody. Here's 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Paul caldc. Let's see here looking out the window. Here 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: a Cardinals Underground Incorporated. It's a very cloudy day in 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: the skies above Cardinal's headquarters. But inside HQ and the 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. Guess what the clouds 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: have parted? Have they not end? Below? Please? There we go, 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Danny Serek, you do the honors, coming off all the 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: award shows and the hoopla and the gala that was 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl week, and the fact that you didn't speak 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: it into existence, but apparently you dreamt it into existence. 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: The fact that we have a head coach officially named 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a name that has not come up to date on 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals underground. So I don't know if there were betting 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: odds Polly prop beed over here. I don't know what 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: the guests what out of nowhere the Cardinals have their 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: next head coach. Although when we go through all this, 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: you're going to realize, you know what, it was in 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: the works all along. We were just on the outside 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: looking in in terms of the knowledge and information. That's right, Paul. 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Valentine's Day, the Cardinals made it official and 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: they hired former Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon. So it 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: makes sense when we heard owner Michael Bidwell last week 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: say that they were taking their time, they wanted to 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: get things right. Well, it turns out you have to 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: take your time because the right coach for the team 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: was busy coaching the Super Bowl. And you're right, I 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: did dream this into existence because I woke up in 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. This morning turned out to 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: be five thirty because my phone was on sleep mode, 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: which means it doesn't go off if somebody texts me 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: whatever in the middle of the night, And so I 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: woke up something happened in my dream, and I woke 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: up quickly going through my phone because I thought I 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: had missed an email from our public relations department about 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: a press conference a new head coach. And then I 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: realized that there was nothing on my phone, so I 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: went back to sleep lo and behold, I was just 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: a few hours early in checking my phone, and all 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: I could think of is my alarm went off at 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: five thirty because I get up at five thirty and 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: you're calling it the middle of the night. Yes, is 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: that a flex? Dandy? You can? We need a rule 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: in on that. Was that a flex by Darren that 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: he gets at five thirty? No, the real flexes. The 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: real flex is Craig Grilu, who gets up at like 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: three in the morning. No, come on, gets crazy time. 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: I know that Legitimately. I get up and I'll text 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: him something that I'm it's on my mind and he 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: responds right away, and I'm like, what's he doing? He 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: doesn't do morning radio what he does for a walk 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: or something. That's why that's why I get up earlier. 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong he gets up earlier, But behold, we 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: have a new head coach. Head coach. Very exciting, and Darren, 65 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: you tell us, if we go to AC Cardinals dot com, 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the timeline how it 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: came to be. And I have a few questions because 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: there's a few nuggets in there, a few factoids, some 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: some things that you revealed in the story that I'm 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: curious about. But take us through some of the basics. Well, 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this. You know, we we talked. 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: We did mention last week that who knows, maybe they're 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: going to look at a Super Bowl coach. That turned 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: out to be a fact. I want to credit Albert 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Breer for Sports Illustrated, who had raised something earlier this 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: week that when Monnie Awesome for it was still with 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the Titans, but thinking, hey, maybe at some point I'll 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: get a GM job. He like he should have kind 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: of got a ready list of guys he might want 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: to interview as a head coach candidate. If he came 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: in as a GM, he'd also have to replace a coach, 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Gannon was on that list. And it's become 83 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: clear after hearing a couple quotes from Michael Bidwell and 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Montie austin Ford about this, that Michael Bidwell said it himself. 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: He's like this has been in the works for a 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: while in terms of him on the radar. Now. What 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Breer pointed out was that by the time the Cardinals 88 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: hired Monti Astenford, the window had closed for first interviews 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: for playoff coaches, so he wanted to talk to Gannon, 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: but Gannon was off limits until the Eagles were done, 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and that wasn't until after the Super Bowl. So that's 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: one of the reasons this took so long. But given 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: the circumstances, it does seem pretty clear that he was 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: a guy that they were very interested in. And having 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: seen I didn't have a chance to actually talk to 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon when he was in the building. He has 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: flown back to retrieve his family in Philadelphia before the 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: press conference. But what I have seen of him, this 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: is a up tempo man. He is He's going to 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: be loud. Uh, he's gonna be I saw him when 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: he first got a chance to say hello, to Kyle 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and it was brief And Kyler Murray is 103 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: in the building, by the way, I saw him yesterday 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: when I walked in. That's one of the nuggets I 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: was going to ask about. Okay, yeah, but uh and 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: and so he's already briefly met with Kyler and they 107 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: had a nice bro hug moment and all that stuff. So, um, 108 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: we're often running here. Um, so that's that's a good thing. 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: We can get back. We'll get back to Kyler in 110 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: a bit. Well, and here's the thing Monny called him 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: in your story asy Cardinals dot Com quote a natural leader, 112 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: a charisma to him. There have been other quotes that 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: have said he possesses the IT factor. So what I 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: think of is is all this discussion we've had for 115 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the last month plus, right, and guys who have played 116 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: the game for a long time, like Drew Stanton and 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: some of our broadcasts, you can be the best coordinator 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: in the world with the xes and os. Are you 119 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: a leader of players? Are you a lead within the organization? 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Can you command the room? And I'll tell you when 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: you look at him, he's forty years of age. He 122 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: looks closer to thirty. So probably the best thing that 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I've heard so far, and obviously we haven't even heard 124 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: from Jonathan Gannon himself, is the fact that he's that 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: guy in front of the room, that he can provide 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: that sort of leadership, and that he is a natural leader, 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: that he has that it factor. In fact, that was 128 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: one Albert Brier's reports that he said that Gannon quote quietly, 129 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: has been a front runner of the moment Monny austin 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Ford got the GM job and that Manny sees Jonathan 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Gannon as quote having that it factor necessary to be 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: a head coach. Well, that would make sense of the 133 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: word we had heard the last five weeks throughout this 134 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: coaching search from both Michael Bidwell and Monnie Austenford is accountability. 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: So I would imagine that's a pretty big characteristic trait 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: that they were looking for and that they see and 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: like and Jonathan Gannon. And you could even see it. 138 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: I feel like you could sense it in the selfie 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: video that Gannon took that was on our Twitter at 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Azy Cardinals. The excitement of just saying like he literally said, 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: buckle up, like it's gonna be fun, Like let's go, 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: let's get to work and you can feel that energy, 143 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: that intensity that you know, that excitement from him even 144 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: in that I read a story. There's a great story 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: that was just written last week by Mary Kay Cabot 146 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. That's the area from where 147 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: I highly recommend that a really great story. But I mean, 148 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: this is a guy who was trending. He was a 149 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: all everything athlete in high school and he was trending 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: to get a nice scholarship and he injuries kind of 151 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: delayed derailed his athletic career. But I mean that's where 152 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: he was on scholarship, but Louisville was his freshman or. 153 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: He had a bow jackson hip injury, severe hip injury, 154 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: couldn't play again. So I mean, this is a guy 155 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: that's can be intense and he and he's a competitor 156 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and again with the high energy, I think that's something 157 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: we're all, you know, we're all looking forward to seeing. Look, 158 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury was Cliff Kingsbury. But when you talk about 159 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: going opposite, we're talking about Cliff who was very he 160 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: stayed very steady, and he believed in in you know, 161 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: not getting super emotional, especially off the field. I mean 162 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: We clearly saw he had some moments on the field 163 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: when he was miked up or when the cameras were 164 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: on him, but he stayed a little bit more steady. 165 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: This guy seems like he's going to be a little 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: bit more emotional about things and and obviously defense offense, 167 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I know I've talked to Wolf about this. 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: We talked about it briefly on The Bigger Red Rage 169 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago that I feel like, almost tangibly, 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: a defensive coach is going to be a little bit 171 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: more in your face than an offensive guy. An offensive 172 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: guy oftentimes feels a little bit more analytical, more strategical, 173 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: if you will, whereas there's a little bit more emotion 174 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball and football. So 175 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a little of that too. Is strategical 176 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: A word? No, probably? Why why'd you gotta call me on? 177 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry out, don't cut that out. I'm out here 178 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: for the world, warts and all. Baby, I got a 179 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: word for you, bleeping. Did you see the video If 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: you go ahead and you search up Jonathan Gannon on 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: social media, and there's a video taken by the fan. 182 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: It was the practice week leading up the NFC Championship. 183 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: There's tons of traffic somewhere outside the Eagles practice facility, 184 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: and the cops are making way and bringing Jonathan Gannon through, 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: and basically, you know, I'm a car guy, so just 186 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: based on the vehicle he's driving, which is like this 187 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: armored vehicle, I know, it's like a hummer or something. 188 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: It's a massive vehicle. And the fans somehow new it 189 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: was Gannon with him, and he rolls down the window. 190 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Unbeknownt to him, they are actually recording on his cell phone. 191 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: And if you watch the video, he yells out trying 192 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: to pump up all these fans because they're going, yeah, 193 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: let's go. He rolls it down and he says, quote, 194 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna bleeping gut these guys. Oh, and he smiles 195 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: and up comes the window. Yeah. I definitely didn't know her. 196 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: Although in that circumstance, how do you not think that 197 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: somebody is recording it? Yeah, that's true. I think that 198 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: was good preparation for being a head coach. You're always 199 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: on camera, but that way you have to remember that. 200 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: But it is the window goes down, and it was 201 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: a window into his personality, if you will to Darren's point, 202 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: he is gonna be I think, much more hyper aggressive, 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: much more vocal. Look at the way he ran his defense. 204 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: And so now here's my other thing. I'm just gonna 205 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: surmise you talk about Eagles fans, then we'll move on. 206 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: He also told a story super Bowl media night. One 207 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: of the Beat writers asked him, and Nick Sirianni had 208 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: mentioned this as well, not all Eagles fans all season long, 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: we're on board with Jonathan Gannett. Now we know it's 210 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: the toughest town in America when it comes to fans, 211 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: and now demanding they are. And we know what happened 212 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: in the second half of the Super Bowl, but this 213 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: is before Super Bowl fifty seven. There was a certain 214 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: percentage of the fans who weren't on board. And he 215 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: told in response to a Beat writer's question about why 216 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: that was, what's going on, You've got a record setting 217 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: top ran defense, and he said he went into a 218 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: restaurant not too long ago with his wife and his 219 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: young kids, and this is him now quote. I started 220 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: getting dog cussed, and I was like, I turned my wife. 221 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I said, well, that's something. We've won five games in 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: a row. And he sort of laughed it off. But 223 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: I wonder, here's my thought, Bubble, Are you sure he 224 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: wasn't looking forward to getting out of Philadelphia, honestly, if 225 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: that was the climate, considering the season they just turned in, 226 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: I think he's looking forward to a little sunshine in 227 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: more ways than one. Oh, absolutely, I would imagine opened 228 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: up his mind more so, maybe than if he had 229 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: been in other places of the opportunity of becoming a 230 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: head coach. Right, maybe being out here the last week 231 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles practicing out of the Cardinals facility, he liked, 232 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: He liked what he saw. I liked the latter, right, 233 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Maybe got a good feel for the building, maybe good 234 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: feel for State Farm Stadium despite losing in the Super Bowl. 235 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: But still nonetheless, I mean, he was a Cardinal once Louisville. 236 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: That's true. Although it's funny when you say maybe got 237 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: a feel for the building because and this is well. 238 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point we will see some of 239 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the clip. But he was when he got a chance 240 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: to say hi to Kyler, he didn't know Kyler was 241 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: in the building, and he was literally about to leave 242 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the building with his bags in his hands with owner 243 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, and somebody said Hey, do you want to 244 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: say hi to Kyler? He's in the training room or 245 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: the weight room or something like that. And you could 246 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: see him turn around on this video and he's like, wait, 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: Kyler's here, and he's like so he literally puts his 248 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: bags down and there's a camera following him around. He 249 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: didn't just walk back over. He starts jogging back to 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: the point where like the camera guys are having to 251 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: like try and catch up with him, but he takes 252 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: and will you guys know this those out there in 253 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: the listening audience aren't going to understand this. But when 254 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you come down the hallway through the cafeteria by the 255 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: door where he was going to leave, when you come 256 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: back the other way, you head back towards the weight room, 257 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: and there's almost like a wall. You can make a 258 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: left kind of in the weight room, or you make 259 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: a right by the tillman Darren you don't have to 260 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: tell him about the weight room obviously, or you can 261 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: make a right by the tilman locker and then kind 262 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: of and it's kind of like squared off. You can 263 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: get to either side. But he went left and kind 264 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: of disappeared, and then somebody said, no, no, he's it's 265 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: it's around this way, So he like kind of came 266 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: back around the other way and eventually found his quarterback. So, Okay, 267 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: now this is reading a lot into a little a 268 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: little snippet, but he was being interviewed at a very 269 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: advanced point in the process, correct, And he had yet 270 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: to talk to Kyler Murray. So for anyone who's thinking 271 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: Kyler had some sort of say in this process that 272 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: would seem to indicate otherwise. No, Look, I think the 273 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: circumstances were always what they were going to be with Kyler, 274 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: which was, Look, we want to loop him in the 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: best we can, but we're going to make the right 276 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: decision for this team. We certainly want to make sure 277 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: he knows what's going on. My guess is again going 278 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: back to the car. So, I the building was somewhat 279 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: empty yesterday. I mean a few of us were here, 280 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of people that took the 281 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: day off because it was a very long week last week, 282 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of people in this building 283 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: that worked through Saturday and Sunday, so they got a 284 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: very rightful day off. But it was somewhat empty in here. 285 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: But I came in and I got to the building. 286 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I forget what time, it was, maybe nine thirty yesterday morning, 287 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: and I walked in that same door that I was 288 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: just talking about that that Gannon was about to leave, 289 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and right inside the door there's Kyler Murray, which I 290 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting. I mean, he hadn't been here up until then, 291 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: but he is clearly now that he was here yesterday 292 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: and today it seems like he's around now. And I 293 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: said Hi to him, how are you doing? He said, 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Hi, Darren, how you know I'm doing good. 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like we had a long conversation, 296 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: but it was good that he was here. So if 297 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: he was here yesterday, obviously he hadn't had a chance 298 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: to meet with Jonathan Gannon yet, but there was other 299 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: people in the building yesterday that could have that. You know, 300 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: knew Kyler was around too, So maybe Michael touches Basse 301 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: with him, maybe Monty touches Bass with him. So I'm 302 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: guessing he had an idea. But again, the thought process 303 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: always was these guys have to hire who's best for 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: the team, and it's important to let Kyler know what's 305 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: going on. But he was not going to be a 306 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: decision maker in this. Well, let's make it clear Paul 307 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and I were also in the building. Yah, Well, I 308 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: did say it is interesting. I think although I'm not 309 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: on a first name basis with Kyler, I don't think anyway, 310 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: that's two flexes by Darren. And as if we're keeping school, 311 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: wasn't going to not say that. I do wonder though, 312 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray being here. And we had heard weeks 313 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: ago owner Michael Bidwell saying that he hoped Kyler would 314 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: do his rehab out here in Arizona as opposed to 315 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: back home in Dallas where he had the surgery done. 316 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that Kyler Murray being out here the 317 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: last two days solidify as he's doing his rehab out here. 318 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: For saying, I'm not saying that's what you're saying. I'm 319 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: sure he's just out here for the super Bowl. It 320 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: is good timing that he was out here when the 321 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: new head coach was walking in the building. That's that's 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: pretty serendipitous. Um, but we'll see. I guess that's better 323 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: than strategical. Wow, there we go. I gotta okay, So 324 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Darren Bingo, So there's there's two bleeping right. So far. 325 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: There was the Gannon quote to fans out his window, 326 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: and then there's Darren on his own podcast. I charged 327 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: ten dollars per bleeping. I say we just leave it in. Yeah, 328 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: just leave it in. At this point, I'm sorry, Darren. 329 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: You know. So here's the quote you didn't say it too, Darren. 330 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: From owner Michael Bidwell and Acy Cardinals dot Com the 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: story quote. We've been looking at Jonathan for a while. 332 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I know Jonathan and Monny had spoken last year. Monny 333 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: was pretty fired up about him. I get a chance 334 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: to watch some videos about Jonathan and got a feel 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: for his personality. When he came in Monday and put 336 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: together his visions plan, it really seemed like it stood out. 337 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: We had tremendous candidates, but he stood out in terms 338 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: of his energy and also what his plan is. Every 339 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: time he has been in a position to lead, he 340 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: has excelled. I thought that was a money quote right there, 341 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: because when you're trying to decipher, Okay, which one of 342 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: these first time head coaches truly has the makings and 343 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the DNA of a head coach, because it's different than 344 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: an assistant coach than if you have a proven track 345 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: record of being that sort of leader at every step 346 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: of the way. And would Nick Sirianni being an offensive 347 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: head coach correct than boom you had Jonathan Gannon who 348 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: probably had a little more control of the defense than if, 349 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: for example, there would have been a defensive head coach. 350 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: So all those things combined along with even some of 351 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the anecdotal stuff some of the national broadcasters, Ross Tucker, 352 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: who does a lot, who's an analyst a lot of 353 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: the national NFL radio he said in the production meetings 354 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: he'd been in as soon, he said, within minutes of 355 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: his first production with Jonathan Gannon, his reaction was, Oh, Yeah, 356 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a head coach sometime soon. 357 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. That's nice. It's good to hear 358 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: it feels. We had kind of talked about us, I 359 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: believe on our podcast last week before the Super Bowl, 360 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Darren You brought out the 361 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: point more so with Mike Kafka, the offensive coordinator for 362 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: the Giants, of was that kind of what they had 363 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: envisioned when the Cardinals hired Cliff Kingsbury, with the exception 364 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: that Kafka already has that NFL experience, and that's still 365 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: kind of what it feels like with Jonathan Gannon is 366 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: he's only forty years old. He's very young, first time 367 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: head coach, but has significant NFL experience. He had been 368 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: an assistant, he's been a scout, he's been quality controlled, 369 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: DB's coach, defensive coordinator. So I think that still kind 370 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: of applies to an extent, even though you're hiring Jonathan Gannon, 371 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: a defensive minded coach. What is interesting to me, and 372 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: I know that this is a popular topic every year 373 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: when coaching searches are going on, and I don't know 374 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: that I personally have an answer for a better system, 375 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: it is interesting that the Cardinals have at least GM 376 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: MONTI awso for It has clearly been interested in talking 377 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Gannon, and you haven't been able to because 378 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned Darren. By the time awso for It was hired, 379 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: you'd already missed that window, and so you had to 380 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: wait until that coach was done coaching, which for Ganna 381 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: meant through the Super Bowl. And that's not to say 382 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals weren't seriously considering the other candidates they 383 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: talked to in that time. It's just a really interesting 384 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: dynamic of those other candidates and if you like those candidates, 385 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals that you're talking to, but you still want 386 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: to talk to Gannon and you're having to wait in 387 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: those other like the Brian Flores situation who went to 388 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: become the DC with the Minnesota Vikings, of having to 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: make that decision of do I stick it out because 390 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: I think this team is going to hire me? Do 391 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I go somewhere else? It's just interesting that both parties 392 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: had to wait and you're still having to conduct searches. Yeah, right, 393 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: while still thinking your guy is out there. There's a 394 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: lot that goes into this. I mean, am I going 395 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: to sit here and say Jonathan Gannon when they fired 396 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury was the guy that they thought they were 397 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: going to end up with as their head coach. No, 398 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that, um, And obviously some things changed. 399 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: It was Monty's the one that had a little bit 400 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: of a relationship with Jonathan Gannon, and obviously he didn't 401 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: get hired until a week after the season, so there 402 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: was that early time when things were starting to get formulated. 403 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm there were other coaches that had 404 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: it worked out, I think they would have tried to 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: hire for whatever reason, and you're you're at this place now, 406 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: I know there's going there's there's there's there's been frustration 407 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: that it took as long as it did. Um. I 408 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: know there's fans that don't care about the idea that Okay, 409 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: so you hired a super Bowl coach that makes it 410 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: okay to wait, they're not okay with I understand all that. 411 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: I know that Nick Serrani was I had heard from 412 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: some about from some Philadelphia people. Nick Serrani was like 413 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: the thirteenth guy the Eagles looked at when they were 414 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: going through that coach and that turned out pretty well. 415 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously the Bruce arians thing turned out well, 416 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: and he was the last guy that the Cardinals talked 417 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: to out of many that year. I don't know what's 418 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: going to happen with Jonathan Gannon. He may not work out, 419 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: but he might and you don't know. Well, that's the 420 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: thing is, at least as a Cardinals fan, you have hope, right. 421 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to speak for Cardinals fans 422 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: because some of them act like they don't. Okay, Well, 423 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: hope is there if you would like to grab it, 424 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: because you have this new regime, you have a new 425 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: general manager, you have a new head coach. Clearly they 426 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: are trying to change things up. Michael Bidwell is trying 427 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: to change things up by bringing in somebody outside in 428 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Montie also and for it as your new general manager, 429 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: somebody outside as your new head coach, switching things up 430 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: to being defensive minded with your new head coach. So 431 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: clearly they are trying to make changes. Now, you're right, 432 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: sometimes that you start out hot. Sometimes it takes time. 433 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not always the right fit. You won't know obviously, 434 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: time will only tell. But I do think that there 435 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: is plenty of reason with those topics. I mean the 436 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: third draft pick. I think there is enough reason to 437 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: have hope that the Cardinals can turn things around from 438 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: the season that they're coming off of. And look, I 439 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: would say that whenever you make a head coaching change 440 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: like this, at the very least you have hope at 441 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: least until the season starts. Right. That's that's what you're 442 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: buying yourself, is when you hit that reset button. But 443 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: do the fans who were wondering why it took so long, 444 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: or the fact it took so long, you know, what 445 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: does it matter? I mean, that would be my response, 446 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: What doesn't matter and why doesn't matter because the when 447 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's the who. Look look at I mean, 448 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: Frank Reich was hired. Anybody tell me what day he 449 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: was hired? Does anybody care last week, Damiko Ryans, Sean Payton, 450 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken. Does it matter when they were hired? Absolutely not. 451 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: It's just who did you get the right coach for 452 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: your team? So that's my mini rant is that it 453 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Do maybe that felt pretty long? Current assistant? Sure, 454 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: it matters to them, doesn't matter to maybe some other 455 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: assistances around the league or trying to maybe leverage your 456 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: position to get on with a new head coach and 457 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: a new staff. Sure, But to the fans and for 458 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: us media types doesn't matter. Yeah, everybody wants it now. 459 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: It's a microwave society. I get it. Everyone's impatient. Now 460 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: now give me fifteen seconds or less, you know, TikTok 461 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: generation whatever. But it ultimately doesn't matter as to the win. 462 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: It only matters as to the who. I agree with you, 463 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: I will say. The only thing that, at least right 464 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: now kind of makes you feel a little antsy is 465 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: the fact that the combine is two weeks away. So 466 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: now time is ticking to get your coaching staff in order, 467 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: and to make sure that Jonathan Gannon, to make sure 468 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: that Monty awesome for it. Everybody is working with the 469 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: scouting department, with the Cardinals to make sure that everybody's 470 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: on the same page of what does Jonathan Gannon want, 471 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: what does Mony Awso for? What, what kind of players? 472 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: What kind of are they looking for? Schemes sings of 473 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: that nature. That that's where I understand of time. You know, 474 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: can be a little pressing, but I agree with you. 475 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: Is it? And Michael Biddell had said this, you want 476 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: to take your time and you want to get it right. 477 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals were taking a lot of flak nationally 478 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: of taking so long to find the right coach and 479 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: all of these things, and clearly they were waiting for 480 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah, so when it comes to the combine, 481 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I will not be stunned if they don't have all 482 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: their coaching positions filled. Probably, And that's okay. I really 483 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: loved the idea once I started looking at his background. 484 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: I love the idea. He spent three years as his scout. 485 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: That to me impacts something because one of the tougher 486 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: part he said, by the way in interview that the 487 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: gms love that as well. Yeah, that the interviews he 488 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: has done over the last couple of years, Minnesota, Houston, 489 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: all those gms in the front office love his background 490 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: as a scout. One of the tougher parts of draft 491 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: prep is aligning what the scouts and the front office 492 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: seeing players and the what the coaches see. And to 493 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: have a head coach who has an understanding of that dynamic. 494 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't make everything always completely smooth, but it puts 495 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: you in a better spot. I do hope, I will 496 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: say this, I do hope they have an offensive coordinator 497 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: in place by the time they go to the combine. 498 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm interested that and we talked about that. I'm sure 499 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: that's what made all these defensive coaches stand out in 500 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: the interviews, is who would you bring it as your 501 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: oct Who's going to coach Kyler Murray? Is anybody familiar 502 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: with Brown's quarterbacks coach Drew pet scene, because there's one 503 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: report that it was from a couple of days ago 504 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: that if Jonathan Gannon lands Arizona job, which once again 505 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: our headline tonight, Jonathan Gannon, the new Arizona Cardinals head coach, 506 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: the eleventh and Arizona Cardinals history. One name to watch 507 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: reporterly Brown's QB's coach, Drew pet Scene. I threw this 508 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: at Drew standing, former Brown's quarterback not that long ago. 509 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: He was not familiar with Petsing because at that time 510 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Petsn was in Minnesota together with Jonathan Gannon at that time, 511 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: this is two three four years at that time when 512 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: Drew was that time was is the Browns and so, 513 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: but there are a couple of reports out there that 514 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Petsing would quote be a leading name for the see 515 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: on Jonathan Gannon's staff, and that obviously is the big 516 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: question out there with a defensive head coach, and I'm 517 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: guessing reports will start coming fast and furious as to 518 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: who might be the offensive coordinator because to your point, Danny, 519 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: there's no way he went into that interview with Maniasafort 520 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: and Michael Bidwell without the ability to answer that question. 521 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: That would have been one of the first questions, what 522 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: do you have in mind for the offensive side of 523 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the ball? Who do you have in mind? And I'm 524 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: sure it helps that Jonathan Gannon has game planned against 525 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and so has a pretty probably unique standpoint 526 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: of how to defend him and what he brings the table, 527 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: but that that is the key building building your staff 528 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: as a whole. Yes, I mean we're going to get 529 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: into this later on in the off season of the 530 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: needs on offense and defense. And it's not just who's 531 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: gonna be your offensive coordinator. There there are questions on 532 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: the defense as well, But when you're hiring an offensive 533 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: minded coach, that OC is pretty important, obviously, And so 534 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: that is the question. Is Kyler Murray and how this 535 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: offense is also going to look without Kyler Murray for 536 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: however many games he's likely going to miss and start 537 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: the season. That's a good point today. I'm guessing it 538 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: was a selling point as well. If Jonathan Gannon looked 539 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: Monny and Michael Bidwell in the eye and said, um, yeah, 540 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: I just spent a couple of years with Jalen Hurts. 541 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts on what to do with 542 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: your quarterback. I have a few thoughts on best practices, 543 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: what Kyler Murray can adapt and adopt from what Jalen 544 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: Hurts did this offseason to go from a pretty good 545 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: quarterback to second team All Pro. That it started with 546 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: his offseason before they ever got to the regular season. 547 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm guessing Gannon looked those guys in the eye and said, Okay, 548 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: guess what I'm going to borrow a lot from what 549 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles have been doing Shane Steke and and Nick 550 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Sirianni have been doing with Jalen Hurts, and just watch 551 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: me incorporated into Kyler's game. Just watch us be that 552 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: much more unstoppable. And I threw that out there Drew Stanton. 553 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: His response was, Okay, but the first thing you have 554 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: to do is convince Kyler to get under center more. 555 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Because Jalen hurt It's obviously does a lot of that. 556 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see if that sort of evolution 557 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: towards that type of Eagles offense comes to be in 558 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: the az Are you telling me the Cardinals QB sneak 559 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: could become what the Eagles was? Get ready for the 560 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: rugby scrum? I mean we got we got a big, 561 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: big difference physically. Okay, Jared, let's just have a little 562 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: fun for one. No, no, you're not allowed to have 563 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: any fun. Actually, it's funny you bring that up, though, 564 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: not the fun part. But on the two point conversion 565 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, I was watching a replay that 566 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: I still am not sure how the Chiefs didn't stop 567 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts from getting in the end zone. There was 568 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: like two tacklers like a yard out and he still 569 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: managed to get in. Does Jalen Hurts squat six hundred pounds? 570 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: That's why? That's how I got into the end zone? 571 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Second only to Paul Calves. These young kids today, by 572 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: the way, when I go into the gym, does anybody 573 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: work legs in here? That's what I want to shout 574 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: out to all these teenagers and twenty somethings. You notice everyone, 575 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: that all the leg machines are wide open. Hello, You 576 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: ever noticed that when you go to the gym, nobody's 577 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: working legs. Everybody's just trying to get their swollen in 578 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: the upper body. And then they're looking in the They're 579 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: looking in the mirror and trying to take video. That's 580 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing over there. Was that a rant too. 581 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that was a mini rant. The other one. Okay, 582 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: all right, okay, here's my third rant. Since these things 583 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: happen in three's, you're ready for this one. Everyone speaking 584 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and Jonathan Gannon who's saying, oh, jeez, 585 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: you know why he's not qualified based on a second half? Um, 586 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: would you guys take Kyle Shanahan as a head coach? 587 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Because do you know what happened in his last game 588 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: as a coordinator before he was named the Niners head coach, 589 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: something called the Super Bowl and a blown twenty eight 590 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: to three lead against New England in the second half. 591 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia lost the Super Bowl to the Eagles, the 592 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: first time they went around in recent history, and the 593 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: very next day he was named Lions head coach. Now, 594 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: I didn't work out so wall obviously in Detroit, But 595 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, are you dealing with some of that on 596 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Twitter and in the mail bag? I know you've been 597 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: busy today, but if you've seen some of the wall, 598 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: why would you take Yeah, that coordinator coming off that 599 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: second half? Because there are a lot of Eagles fans 600 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: are saying, guess what you can have them, to which 601 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni has already responded pretty vociferously and said, you know, 602 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: you guys gotta be kidding. Yeah, Well, I do think 603 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: there's a segment of the fans that don't love what 604 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: happened on Sunday. You know, I think taking one game 605 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: and saying Okay, all the rest of it doesn't matter. 606 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: That's a little concerning. And you can't sit here and say, 607 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and I saw this from a Philadelphia fan, Well they 608 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: were They had seventy sacks, and they were second in 609 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: the league and overall defense only to the forty nine ers. 610 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: And they've been great and they're a top ten defense 611 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: last two. Yeah, but that's because of the personnel. You 612 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: can't you don't get to say when they're doing well, 613 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: it's all the players, and when they do poorly, it's 614 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: because of the coach. It doesn't work that way. I mean, 615 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: you can, you're just wrong and so. And the other 616 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: thing too, is again how we don't know how hands 617 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: on Jonathan Gannon is going to be with a defense. 618 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: We talk about who he's gonna hire his offensive coordinator. 619 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: Let's see who he has this defensive coordinator too. You know, 620 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni was letting Shane Stiken call the plays. If 621 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, Even though Nick Sierranni is an offensive guy, 622 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: he became more of the overseer. If Jonathan Gannon becomes 623 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: more of the overseer, then it's going to be up 624 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: to the defensive coordinator, So you know, Will, Is there 625 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: any reason to think it wouldn't be Vance Joseph because 626 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: lu An Rumo and Vance Joseph had the relationship from 627 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: their days together in Miami. Correct Vance Joseph still in 628 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: a contract at least as of this recording Cardinals underground, 629 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and we haven't heard otherwise. I mean, to your point, 630 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: that would make sense if he goes to the Nick 631 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Sirianni route and he's a CEO and he delegates the 632 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: play calling to his defensive coordinator. I think it's plausible. 633 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: It's plausible. We're gonna we're gonna find out. Well, I mean, 634 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to ask on Thursday, because I'm 635 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: sure one of the first questions being asked at that 636 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: press conference. God, I hope it's not about the Super Bowl, 637 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: but I hope it's what are your plans at offensive 638 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: coordinator and what are your plans of defensive coordination? You 639 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: should take the first question. I'll do what I can. 640 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: You know what, you won't have to. I'm gonna make 641 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: a prediction right here. Because Gannon did not talk to 642 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: the media after the Super Bowl, a lot of the 643 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: Philly media is still raw about that. I'm guessing somebody 644 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: flies in from the Philly media contingent is Philly and 645 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: attends just to ask questions about the second half of 646 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that they did not get a chance 647 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: to pose on Sunday night. It's a prediction. We'll see, 648 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: we'll see who was in attendance. Very interesting. Maybe there's 649 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: a Philly media member who decided to make a vacation 650 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: out of Arizona after the Super Bowl and they're still here. Anyways, 651 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: I want to remind you, Paul, not to make the 652 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: same mistake from when we had the press conference either. 653 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was either when Michael bid 654 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Will announce that Steve Kim and Cliff King's very even 655 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: relieved to their duties. Where it was the hiring of 656 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: Monty awesome for it, Oh it was. It was the 657 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: one with Michael Well, um five weeks ago when you 658 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: forgot to reserve a seat and so you were standing 659 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: in the back because it was very crowded. Yeah, this 660 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: is your reminder that was a rookie move to save 661 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: a seat. Will be in the big room. Yeah that's 662 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: uh yeah, oh yeah, so you know what I might 663 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: be having to save Craig Griolu on air, so we'll 664 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: see that. I'm going to blame blame Griolu on that one. 665 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: So I'm looking here at what else in uh Gannon's background? Uh, 666 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: you guys want to cover? What are the big questions? 667 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: What are the questions in the press comments O c 668 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: DC uh maybe you know his conversations with Kyler. I'm 669 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: guessing those would be the first three questions. What else 670 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: would you want to know from Jonathan Gannon when he 671 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: meets the media? Well, I guess what his plan is. 672 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: What we were just talking about of calling plays on 673 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: the defense, being more the CEO, how he kind of 674 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: envisions how hands on he's going to be when it 675 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: comes to situations like that. Is it too selfish for 676 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: me to ask about when when he's going to be 677 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: practicing and how early I got my stuff done? That's 678 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: probably not the right forum, But I just think there's 679 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: going to be questions once he kind of composes his staff. 680 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: That might be too early because I'm really interested of 681 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: there are a lot of pending free agents, a lot 682 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: of decisions that need to be made on defense, and 683 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: are you going to be looking for the same type 684 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: of players and the trenches or are you not? Are 685 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: you going to be looking for different types of players 686 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: because you're going to want to run a different scheme 687 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: or things of that nature. But it's going to be 688 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: too soon. I will say this, He's coming from a team, 689 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: and I know this is going to be very This 690 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: will be excellent for a lot of fans to hear 691 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: right now. But if you think about who they brought in. 692 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: They brought in Manias and for it from the Tennessee Titans, 693 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: and they brought in a coach from the Philadelphia Eagles. 694 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that Eagles got where they 695 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: were is because their defensive line was hellacious and had 696 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and their offensive line has become 697 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. Ye and I 698 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: think the Titans viewed the same kind of the lines, 699 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: the same kind of w So that to me says, okay, 700 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: that's that's probably a direction this team will finally go 701 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: after many years of not necessarily looking at it that way. 702 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, considering Gannon and the team he 703 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: just came from, was there a better offensive line, was 704 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: there a better defensive front? And then you combine that 705 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: with Moni Austin for you right in the Tennessee days. 706 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: So if three of their first four picks are on 707 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: defensive or offensive lineman, not shocked. And I'm talking like 708 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: the next three drafts, if they're just stock it up 709 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: on lineman going forward just to build that sort of 710 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: sort of advantage. I could see that. Did you see 711 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: the quote from Saint Dike and when he has Shane 712 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: Stike and when he met the Colts media and his 713 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: comment was what sort of style he's gonna run and 714 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: his offensive philosophy. He said, we're gonna throw it to 715 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: score points and we're gonna run it to win. That 716 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: was his quote. We're gonna throw it to score points, 717 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna run it to win. Okay, And I wonder 718 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: if it sounds easy enough. That's gonna be sort of 719 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: a similar mantra from from Jonathan Gannon. We'll see. But 720 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: look in this division in particular, right, I mean, you better. 721 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: And I also wonder to what degree it's gonna filter 722 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: down through the rest of the staff, not just the coaches, 723 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: strength training and everything else. I mean, there could be 724 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: a lot of change. Look at the Eagles offensive line. 725 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: They missed three man starts all year. Cardinals miss seeming 726 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: like three hundred starters miss games, and they missed three 727 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: all seasons. So I don't know what his formula was 728 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: for keeping that team healthy. Knock on wood, but please 729 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: bring over those best practices as well. Let's go ahead 730 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: and answer a question many fans are probably thinking of. 731 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: Is training camp gonna look a little different this year? Yes, 732 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's a definitive yes. I would imagine so. Yes. 733 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: And there were a couple of players who throughout radio 734 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: row last week, Cardinals players were talking different national media 735 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: members and that was questions yes, Buda Baker, Yes, and 736 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: it went all the way back to training camp, and 737 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: they were saying it went back to training camp or 738 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: they're saying that they were disappointed we didn't work harder, 739 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: essentially both that it seemed like it wasn't necessarily being 740 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: taken seriously enough. I'm okay with that, but like you 741 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: could feel the lack of energy. Buddha said, we weren't 742 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: regular season ready. No, I know he did, and Isaiah said, yeah, that, 743 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, he he kind of put it on the coaches. Isaiah, 744 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: of course he did, which you know, um kind of 745 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: did a bit of a double take right there. I mean, 746 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: if you feel that strongly, then you need to go 747 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: to the coaches be alitally by example. Yes, especially at 748 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: that point in the camp he was wearing the green dot. 749 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: How I feel about it, he was calling the defense 750 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: at that point. You know, again we're talking about and 751 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: now we're going back to the old coach, but we're 752 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who Cliff Kingsbury said, I trust 753 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: that you guys are going to be professional, and we 754 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: can blame the coach for taking that tact, but at 755 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: what point do the players take some of that responsibility 756 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: saying okay, maybe he should have been harder on us, 757 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: but in the ultimately, in the end, it was the 758 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: players that let him down. He was trying to give 759 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: you guys the way to do it, and you didn't 760 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: do it. But you know the other quote from Sirianni 761 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: during Super Bowl week where he said, I really believe 762 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: in Jonathan Gannon, and I have so much confidence and 763 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: faith in him. I think he'd be a great head 764 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: football coach. He has all the intangibles and all the 765 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: qualities that you need. I think he's more than ready. 766 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: So but that was intriguing because once again to come 767 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: full circle here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by 768 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation. I don't necessarily care as much about 769 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: it the exes and the oaths and the schemes. It's 770 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: how is he going to lead? What sort of culture 771 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: is he going to install? What is the attitude in 772 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: training camp? To your point, Danny, those are the things. 773 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: And you also were going to get a greater look 774 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: at in the off season because as a new head coach, 775 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: you get that extra week, do you not in April? 776 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: Don't you get to start a week earlier? You get 777 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: extra time out on the field, right, It's very excited 778 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: to have more stuff to do this offseason that hasn't 779 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: let up yet. Was that sarcastic, Darren? It was sarcastic 780 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: that really, I just let it hang a little bit 781 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: and I'm working very hard there over there. Duty. You 782 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: got to know my sarcasm when it comes out. It 783 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: was a joke, Darren, I was being facetious. We should 784 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: we should plug though that. Jonathan Gannon's having his introductory 785 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: press conference Thursday morning, so listeners you can live stream 786 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: it on our official YouTube channel or Twitter at Easy Cardinals. 787 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: Any other takeaways, Darren, I'm looking at the you know 788 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: your story, and there's the quotes in here and everything, 789 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: I mean, any other takeaways, any other quotes you didn't 790 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: throw win that you thought maybe we were interesting, that 791 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: they were quick, they were quick little interviews which normally 792 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: happened on the day when he gets named. And it's 793 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: it's just the handful of is the real the answers 794 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: most people are gonna want. Those aren't going to come 795 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: until press conference day or whenever, and um, you know 796 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: this is this is what this offseason is going to 797 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: be about. This offseason and I've I've done it many 798 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: times before, whether it was well, we knew Dave McGinnis 799 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, but whether it was Denny Green or 800 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Ken Wizzen Hunt or Bruce Arians or Steve Wilkes or 801 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. This is what this first offseason is about. 802 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Is getting to know the coach, getting to know how 803 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: he wants to operate. And in this case, we'll also 804 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: have a GM that we get to learn a little 805 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: bit about. I'm I'm I'm I like going to the 806 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: Combine every year. I'm very excited to go to the Combine. 807 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: I'll be there. Well, that's that, that's a given Danny obviously, 808 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: But the other part would be just you know, getting 809 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: I get a chance to know a GM that I 810 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: don't know and a coach I don't know, and to 811 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: talk about the third overall pick, which you know, when 812 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: it's during the season kind of sucks when you're in 813 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: that position, but this time year, that's kind of cool 814 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: to write about and talk about um. And you will 815 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: get a chance to interact with Gannon and monti as Fort. Right, Yes, 816 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: And I tell you you guys can agree or disagree, 817 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: and I know you will. But I mean Manti asin Fort, 818 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: he's been all over the building so far. You run 819 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: into that guy a lot. He has been on the move, 820 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: so without knowing anything about anything going on, just based 821 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: on from the outside looking in, I mean you talk 822 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: about energy. They've definitely hit the reset button in that department, 823 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: including the new GM who's been on the move. So 824 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: I am curious. I'm really curious see how he views 825 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: the roster, what we all just witnessed firsthand. What does 826 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: he see when he goes back through the film and 827 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: what moves will be made, what sort of conclusions will 828 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: they reach. I can I can say this, and I 829 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: don't think I'm revealing a whole lot, but I do 830 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: know that there's there's a handful of meetings that normally 831 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,959 Speaker 1: take place much later in the offseason, and he moved 832 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: them up a few months to like right now. Wow, 833 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: And so I think this is front burner stuff. We 834 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: need to talk about this. That's the awesome for it 835 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: is is definitely putting in high gear the draft and 836 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: the personnel side of all of it to I'm sure 837 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: to get to understand where they need this roster to 838 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: go in the direction they're going to go. Is it 839 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: moving that kind of stuff up? Well? You know what, 840 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: you know what Darren needs, Danny, is a reminder that 841 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: Maniasenford in how many years in the Patriots organization, like 842 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: fifteen or so, right, I don't think quite a few. Anyway, 843 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: we know Coach Belichick and his mantra no days off, 844 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, start the chant over there, no days off, 845 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: because I'm just getting a sense that's going to be 846 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: Darren's offseason. No days off. That's to remind me. Unfortunately, Darren, 847 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: can you confirm, with the breaking news that Derek Carr 848 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: has been released from the Raiders that he will not 849 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: be the Cardinals card Yes, can you confirm or deny? 850 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: I can. I feel fairly confident in saying Derek Carr 851 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: will not be coming to the cool that book is 852 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: closed put away. I didn't really know that book was opened. 853 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get ahead of it. Paul, alight, 854 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to help Darren out on Twitter, trying to 855 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: help him out. Hey, we all remember Bruce arians saying 856 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: how much he didn't want Derek Carr when he was here. 857 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Okay, all right, Well a little 858 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: preventative measures on the mail back, Darren. You're doing him 859 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: a solid. Well, Darren, you were at the game. But Paul, 860 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: watching the Super Bowl, I have to ask riveting question, 861 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: Oh boy, did any commercials stick out to you? I 862 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: feel like not so much this year. This is a 863 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: loaded question. Oh at least she didn't ask you if 864 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: you thought Rihanna was pregnant? Which quote? Let's see? You 865 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: know I was told to shut up multiple times during 866 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: the halftime show by the wife. Yeah, yeah, she showed up. 867 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: It was a really good halftime show. It was no, 868 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: it was really well done, really well done. As for 869 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: commercials that stood out, that's a really good question. I 870 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: will say as a Chris Stapleton guy. I love the 871 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: national anthem. I will say that. Unfortunately my household it's 872 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: loud enough where I don't hear a lot of the 873 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: commercials or the broadcast. I see it, but I don't 874 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: really hear a lot of it. So I apologize for 875 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: not being more prepared answer that. It never of him 876 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: really stood out to me. Are you sure nothing? Yeah? Okay, 877 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: why were you? I feel like I feel like, yeah, 878 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: I thought you were leading me in a direction to 879 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: have some sort answer you. Oh, I feel like maybe 880 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: you have a favorite commercial but you don't want to 881 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: say because it's a competing sponsor or something. Oh no, no, no, necessarily, 882 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: um no, the whole Snoop and Martha Stewart dynamic. I 883 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: find that interesting, Like they've been in commercials together before, 884 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: all right, I mean years, Like, how are those two 885 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: good friends? That's sort of it's unusual. So um that 886 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: was intriguing. Oh, I'll to give you one, the Breaking 887 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: Bad one with the show love that one the pop corners. 888 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: That was well done. Tuco the villain, the guy with 889 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: his reaction, because that's straight out of the show. If 890 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: you're a Breaking Bad fan, you get that immediately, Darren, 891 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: there's your off season initiative right there. Come on now, 892 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: start streaming. People say that told me to do that 893 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: many many years ago. That'll do it. Pending the press conference, 894 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: and then we might have a very special edition or 895 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals Owner ground maybe later in the week. I think 896 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: that's the whole Okay here, everybody's very excited. All brought 897 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: to you by Pacific Office Automation