WEBVTT - #20 Viall to the Rescue 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:05.080 Let's get into the mike. Get my radio boys, go in. Help. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.799 I suck at dating with Dean Angler and I heart 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:15.240 radio podcast. Who does the title? That's me? It's really good. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.680 Thank you. That's not Dean though you're not hearing Dean. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:21.799 You want to introduce you if you want me to 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.599 do the honors? No, I mean go ahead, ladies and 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.640 gentlemen sitting in for Dean this week because Dean's and 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.200 Honduras give it up for Nick Vile. Hell, what's up? 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.560 I guess they knew that from the description, probably before 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.440 they downroably Dean's off being a better person than is. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.600 What do they do down there? Like? Did they build 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:44.560 Instagram photos? Like, hey, we're helping the kids. It's not 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:50.280 me Instagram. Um yeah, so yeah, help. I stuck at dating? 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.839 So what does Amy do? She calls me there it 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.000 is we have an opening for someone who could we 0:00:55.200 --> 0:01:01.040 host the show? Can we get to replace Dean? Well? 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.240 Four times reality TV reject? Wait? Four times? The last 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.920 time wasn't a reject? That's Erica by the way, being facetious? 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.520 Were there four times? You know it's weird? I've what 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.759 I was on other than was it Chrispaksk. I've done 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.919 the show four times, and now that we have Winter 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.960 Games and Paradise, there's a lot of people in Batrian 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.160 Nation who have done the show multiple times but for 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:29.440 some reason own the whole like I have been in 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.600 on so many times. But you know, I think Ben 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.760 has done for our shows, but no one blinks and 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.720 I at that, Well he had his on that's four 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.119 and it was like on a different channel. But let's 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.920 be honest, same production company. So Bachelorette Season ten, Bachelorette 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:55.240 Season eleven, Bachelor in Paradise sound great, didn't really back back. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:01.960 So she's like, it's a total well, actually, Bachelorette Season A, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.400 Bachelor Season twenty one, and then Dancing with the Stars. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.360 You could are your five time reality show loser. True? Yeah, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.000 so you guys, you didn't lose the last one. You 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:19.280 just there's no winning and losing, there's just love. I lost. Yeah, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.480 what's been going on with you lately? Are you sucking 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.400 at dating lately? Are you're pretty good at it? We 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.280 does anyone want to be good at dating? That's a 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.239 weird thing. It's like, what are you really good at dating? Well, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.560 that's true, that's a good We should tell Dean that 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.440 maybe you'd get better, really kill it in the dating scene. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.880 We don't want that. You're a player in that situation, right, Yeah, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.680 maybe if you're good at dating, you're married, and then 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.520 you still date because you're still you're married and you 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.480 still date. Is that how it works? I don't think 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.560 that's how it works. Okay, I thank you. Just fall 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.320 in love? And so what does it mean to not 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.120 sucker dating? We should have had this tuck with Dean. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.760 It means being respectful, being open, communicating. It means these things. Right, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.040 So you're saying the title of the show is Dean 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.720 is not respectful, not good at community. That's kind of 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.200 how it started because of Paradise. He wasn't a great 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.040 communicator on Paradise and got some flak for that, some 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.640 some and and and we've gotten a podcast out of it. Yeah. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:28.440 But like sucking at dating, torn between you and Christina, Yeah, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.200 that's just weird to begin with because they're from your season, right, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.360 that's why it's weird to begin with. I'm not weird. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.520 It's like a weird thing to lose loose sleepover what 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.240 that's so brutal? Is it? I? Mean they seem both 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.920 like fine people who people? Yeah? Are you? Are you? 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:57.160 What's what's your current situation? I'm dating? Are you in love? No? Okay, uh, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.040 I'm always in love. You know. I love all you guys. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.200 Are you in a committed relationship? No? I don't think so. No, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.000 I'm just kidding. I'm not. You know, So you're I've 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.880 been dating. I've dated some people more like No, not 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.400 a lot of people I've dated. Well, what about Like, 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.839 could I ask about rumors that I've heard about you? No? 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.719 I can't. I can't bring those up. I can't ask 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.760 about like a favorite month of the year or anything 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.360 like that. I have friends friends, and you've dated, and 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:40.160 we can't talk about which go into which category? Yeah? Okay, alright, um, 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.040 but yeah, you know those who can't teach kind of thing, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.600 you know. I don't know. I've been out there. You know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.919 I've I've I've been dating. Um, what do you do 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.960 on a first date? What do I do on it? Yeah? 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.320 What do you have like a standard thing for a 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.159 first date? Like when I was single, I like to 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.080 take girls to baseball games? It depends, right, I mean 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.360 I think I've come I wrote some article a long 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.960 time ago. I think the level of Typically, if I'm 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.960 going on a date and I don't know much about 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:14.560 the person, I like to keep it pretty um casual, um. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.880 But my level of interest in that person will reflect 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.280 what I want to do on the date. And what 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.240 I mean by that is if I really know nothing 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.000 and when. But you mean by nothing other than the 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.000 fact that I find this person attractive and I don't know, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.240 you know, I maybe had a short interaction with them. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.719 I might suggest the typical coffee or drinks, right, I mean, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.560 but also it's like, um, I don't want It's like 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:38.839 I don't know how much time I want to spend 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.000 with you. And let's be honest, you don't know how 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.720 much time you want to spend with me. So let's 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 just have a cup of coffee. So there's an end 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:49.440 of time. Yeah, uh, if there's an excitement, you know 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.279 where I think either a I I've already had a 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.279 little bit of time. Maybe I've I've had a short 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.120 conversation with him at a night out, or we have 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.039 mutual friends, or I just I really hope I like 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.640 this person, I hope like me. Then maybe I'll suggest dinner. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.919 But even then I try to keep it fairly casual. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.600 I think I find it weird. Um when and when 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.760 guys um try to overly oppress, oppress and end press 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:19.520 a woman by like some fancy expensive date we're gonna 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.440 take a helicopter or even just like a really fancy 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.000 dinners just like, I don't know, you're trying too hard. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:26.520 Just keep it care right. The point is just to 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.080 meet each other that's impressed. I mean, I think it's 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.520 about having conversations, communicating, you know, Uh, if you're going 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.080 to have dinner, I like, you know kind of places 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.400 that have some energy to it, you know, that have 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.520 people around it. Maybe it's like a one of those 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.479 restaurants slash places you get a drink, you know, because 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.240 maybe you can do a little bit of both. You're 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.560 gonna have some dinner and things are going well, you 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.880 close the bar down. That's nice. So there's an end 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.800 time with extensions available if you want to give yourself 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.760 some options, you want to you know, both to extend 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.000 the night and cut it short. I mean, you know, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.599 dating is a it's a trial and error, right. I mean, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.160 I think the best sometimes the best part about dates 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.320 is the fact that a lot of them don't go well, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.320 you know, it's kind of fun, you know, in the 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.560 in the moment, it's kind of cringeworthy, but it makes 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.320 for a good story. What's been a bad date? Give 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.200 us a good story about a bad date you've been on. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.200 Doesn't have to be recent, can be any time in 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.880 your whole life. I don't know. I mean, I don't 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.640 have like some like horrid first date, but sometimes it's, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.560 you know, the worst kind of date. I think you 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.280 just go on and I think it's kind of like 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.560 a job interviewing, right in a sense. But sometimes in 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.920 job interviews you always hear how yeah, that first thirty 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.960 to sixty seconds. Usually they know whether they're interested in 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.280 hiring hiring you now, And I think the sam goes 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.200 for dating. I've never had a bad job interview. Does 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.640 that mean I'm going to be good at dating? Right 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.080 at this point? Right? I think if you're a good 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.320 communicator and you're open with talking about yourself but not 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.520 in a way that comes across is cocky or bragging, 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.920 but just you're opening to have a conversation and kind 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.920 of dive a little deeper, I think you know the 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.040 same thing that comes with interviews. I mean it is 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.440 an interview, right. But I think sometimes those dates you 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:13.480 sit down and you're just like, yeah, this isn't going anywhere. Well, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.080 either clicks or it doesn't. Right. The worst is when 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.080 you think they might think, you know, I've gone on 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.320 a I went on a date once where I was 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.520 pretty sure we mutually just weren't feeling it. But maybe 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.480 I wasn't feeling it and she sensed that, so whatever. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.360 But she went through the whole thing, right, She's like, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.200 let's order apps her dinner, we got drinks. Then she 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.720 later comes out, would you guys like to see the dessert? Minnor, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:42.480 She's like yes, she's really milking this. Um, And I 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.040 was I wanted to be like we don't you know 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.600 that one commercial where you know there there's those two 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.120 people and it's just like, well, I had a nice time, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.800 I'll never see you again. They're like yeah, great, and 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.120 like you wanted it to be like that. But um, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.480 that's the worst. If you know this is not happening, 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.160 but it seems like she's having a nice time, or 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.080 vice versa. You pick up on one like she should 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.640 not have kept ordering things. You would think she picked 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.120 up you said yes, let's get dinner. I'm gonna let's 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.560 get nice guys. If she wants the chocolate su face, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.600 I'm not going to, but they'll take forever to make. Yeah, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.360 the waiter comes out like we have a chocolate sup, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:26.000 I'll have that. Yeah. So, I mean it's a fun thing. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.240 How did you get involved in the whole Bachelor world? 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.319 Like where did the first idea come to you? Did 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.800 somebody approach you kind of my friends sign me up? Yeah? 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.600 I think that's kind of out there without you knowing 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.120 about it. Or do they ask your permission to sign 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.920 you up? Oh, they joked about signing me up, okay, whatever, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.160 and then next thing, the ABC's on the phone. The 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.480 next thing you know, it's like eight months later. I think, yeah, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:55.719 and now you I do have regrets from every day? No, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:00.280 I mean not really, It's been okay, it's been great. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.640 It's it's like life. I mean, every decision or in 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:09.200 every risk that you take, there's good and some bad 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.520 things that come from not necessarily bad, but things that 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.600 you have to get through or struggle with or overcome 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:20.560 maybe hopefully learn from. So going on around a TV 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.120 show is just a heightened version of life. Do you 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.439 remember like when you had to call and tell your parents, Hey, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.320 by the way, I'm we're gonna be on the Bachelor. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.840 Your parents are they still in Walkershaw, Wisconsin. They are, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.719 So that's got to be an interesting phone call to make. UM. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.880 I don't really remember how My parents are great in 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.520 the sense that for those who don't know, I have 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.560 a lot of siblings, um, and so they just have 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.560 better things to do than to worry about what what 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.480 bad decisions I'm making with my life. Yeah, but if 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.319 my kids gonna be on television that's either exciting or horrifying, 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.760 I would have an extreme rac There was a natural curiosity. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:00.280 You know. I've been lucky where my parents, for better 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.840 or worse, have always been confident in my UM life 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.560 decision skills. They maybe that wasn't a good decision, but 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.439 I'm I think they think I'm a very thoughtful person 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.240 in a way the pros and cons and good at 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.280 asking people's advice around me and my circle of mentors 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.240 and friends. And if nothing else, whether they agreed with 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.200 it or not, I think they just assumed and rightly so, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.120 that I thought it through. I wasn't um making just 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.800 a decision on a whim. So you did put a 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.920 lot of thought into this, because you make it sound like, oh, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.839 your friends three in there and then they called and 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.719 you said, sure, it sounds like fun. Yeah. No, No, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.840 I mean I've made a lot of decisions. I was working, 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.040 and um a lot of those conversations I do with 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.480 my My employer at the time was very very gracious 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.360 and supportive and um, you know, if it weren't for them, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.840 I never would have done it. Are you still in 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.600 the software industry? Done with that? I mean, for now, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.240 I am lucky enough to have a lot of great relationships. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.760 I still keep in contact with them, and just in 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:03.520 case everything goes terribly wrong, Um, maybe maybe I'll at 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.600 that point, did you stop working like first round, Bathelorette? Second, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.480 I went right back to work after the first time, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.200 because like, no one even knew who you were yet, 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.080 because it hadn't yet. Well it's interesting, you know, now 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.720 I'm out here in Hollywood and being the cliche and 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.280 and and and acting and you know, thankfully having some 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.720 success with that. But at the time, you know, it 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.640 was I I decided to go on a reality TV show, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.719 and it was very um important to me to just 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.840 be um mindful of what this experience was and when 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.760 it wasn't, I didn't want to like be like, oh, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.480 I'm gonna be a reality TV guy and next thing, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.240 you know, I'm gonna be all over Hollywood. It's just like, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:41.640 now I'm gonna go do this thing. It's gonna be 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.880 an interesting experience. I'm gonna go back to the job 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.719 I I know and love, and I did UM. And 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.280 so as soon as I got done in filming, I 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.480 literally went back to work like two days later, which 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.319 was probably a terrible idea, UM because it didn't end great. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.800 So like, were you just miserable being back at work too? 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.280 I mean, for those who get out of that experiens, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.440 it fries your brain a little bit, messes with you. Um. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.480 But it was also in some ways good for me 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.600 to just get back to normal. And so I just 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.960 did that, and then you know, the rest is kind of, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.240 as they say, history, with UM me getting asked to 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.600 go back on Caitlyn season because the producers kind of 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.480 were found out about our pre existing kind of UM 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.000 friendship if you will, and uh, they were once again supportive, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.120 but at that point I had to you know, they 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.720 kind of gave me that UM open invite to come back. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.559 But um with the exception of making sure I was 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.000 kind of done with all all all of this, as 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.400 they would call it, Hollywood stuff. And so when I 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.760 got done filming, I just kind of took a beat 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.559 and looked at my options. And at that point, you know, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.000 I was given a handful of opportunities that I decided 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.160 to look into because I was lucky enough to be 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.640 given the blessing, blessing from my employer to take some risks. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.000 You know, most people aren't lucky enough to to have 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.959 such a great employer to say, hey, um go live 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.400 it up, yolo, take some risks, see what happens, and 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.720 if you're follow in your face, you can always come back. UM. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.240 So since then, I obviously, you know, gone the Batch 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.880 a couple more times or one of their shows, and 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.760 I've been lucky enough to try new experiences and and 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.080 meet a great network of people who have been supportive 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:24.080 and helpful. And um, I started getting into acting space 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.720 a little shortly before I ever went on Paradise, and 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.760 obviously that took a little bit of a break before 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.440 um I did The Bachelor, and and ever since, Dancing 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.080 the Stars is something that's pretty much what I've been 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.560 focusing on so you know, I've done a couple of shows. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:44.040 I've Speechless Speeches but wasn't on Ion, but it was 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.840 a Vivic a Fox, which okay, that's exciting. What's the 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.240 episode of Speechless? I remember being like this, actually, like 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.720 I didn't know. You never know how reality start is 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.120 going to be on TV. But you were good? It 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.400 worked for you. I was. I was. I was playing 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.920 a bad b roll actor, so kind of were you 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.600 a teacher? My well, my character was an actor playing 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.840 a teacher, but supposed supposed to not be good at 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.160 playing a teacher. So I felt like I nailed that. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.720 So yeah, I mean it was very cool to perform 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:21.120 with Mini Driver, which was really neat. And I recently 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:26.360 filmed an episode UM of Teachers, which is on TV Land, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.680 which is a really cool kind of uh comedy about 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.760 some teachers from Chicago. UM, it's about it's four women 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.800 named Katie. I'll developed a show. It's a really funny, 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.080 kind of snarky, you know, modern day UM take on 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.160 being a elementary teacher. I play a reporter. UM. There's 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.320 been some really cool cameos on it, and so I 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.720 felt very lucky to do that. Um, and uh, I 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.240 have some other stuff been working. I don't know if 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.000 I'm able to share, so I won't. Um, so yeah, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.480 I mean, listen, it's it's been really cool. It's a 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:02.200 very tough and hard industry. Have been working hard, you know. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.760 I have coaching and take classes and do a bunch 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.400 of stuff to try to get better because it's incredibly 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.440 hard and in something that you know, my platform on 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.320 reality TV only helps me so much and in some 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.160 ways it kind of hurts as well. So we'll see. Yeah, 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.560 there's a stingua attached to it. So um, you know, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.520 we'll see how it goes and be taking acting classes 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.240 like you're serious about this next year. I've been taking 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.960 acting classes for about two years now. I study every day. Um. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.800 I do other classes as well to help. There's a 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.640 lot of things that go into it. It's a really 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.280 hard thing. There's a reason why people say that how 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.720 competitive it is. So you know, chances are off all 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.040 on my face and and fail. But you know what 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.800 the hell, Well, you saw Black Panther I did, speaking 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:49.520 of acting was really did you like it? I loved it? 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.360 I loved it. I saw it opening Nate. Obviously a 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.720 lot of hype. UM. For the most part, I felt 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.160 like it lived up to it. Um. It was got 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.600 so much hype, but I saw it yesterday that it 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.480 did it. It lived up to as much as one 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.720 could have me being so hyped up. I thought the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.119 action scenes or so, I mean, my my, what was 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.240 so cool about is as the Black Panther. The action 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.560 sequences and the songs were so cool. I mean, like 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.159 I was maybe some of the cooler action scenes of 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.240 all the Marvel Marvel movies. I think the only downside 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.720 is there weren't as many of them, like the Black 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.760 Panther being the Black Panther. UM. That was one of 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.840 the early only bad reviews is that he doesn't quote 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.400 beat up enough bad guys. Yeah, or just like he's 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.200 not being the Black Panther as much as you'd want 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.240 to see. UM. But it was a lot of great performances. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:40.160 I really liked UM. The women roles. UM. I don't 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.880 know the names of the actors. UM is one of them. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.320 She She is the one that I know off the 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.160 top of my head. They did a really good job. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:50.520 I mean it was kind of it's kind of like 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.199 I wonder woman. UM. I think the industry now is 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.720 maybe it's with the success of Wonder Woman, they're doing 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.280 a great job of having UM. To me, I thought, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:01.960 what what really made the movie and the charm of 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.560 the movie is having these kind of strong female presence 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.439 um that are very attractive yet very charming, and like 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.879 they have these like Wonder Woman, she's very confident and 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.520 strong and kicks ass, but she's also very demure, you know, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.080 And they have that kind of same sentiment in Black Panther, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.960 and I find that to be really charming part of 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.000 the movie. I mean, I've always been a very attractive 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:27.880 too strong women and personalities, but like not overly aggressive, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.280 like these aren't like the the the the women characters, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.919 they're not like hard asses or or like off putting, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.359 but they're like they're they kick ass. They kind of 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.600 own it, but it's not in a way that comes 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.800 across as um like they're trying too hard kind of thing. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.720 You know, there's obviously some in the movie, like the 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.120 Black Panther I did a really good job because obviously 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.600 you know, it's he has a black director, obviously a 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.960 lot of um black UM performances, and so that was 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.040 you know, people have talked about that and it was. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.720 They did a really cool job of like talking about 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.760 pop culture, but not in a way that felt pushy, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.960 you know, so I thought it was really cool that way. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.439 It was just very it was cool. I don't know, 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.560 is this like a really neat movie and they they 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.600 I felt like they did a good job of highlighting 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.840 kind of like you know, racism and things like that 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.359 without it making feel like that's what the movie was about. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.000 It's very inclusive, like I'm the whitest dude on planet Earth, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.840 but like I felt, because we have actually tested them, yes, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.760 yes there's evidence, but I felt very I felt like 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.920 this movie was for me just it's for everybody. It's 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.679 a really uh it made everybody feel proud to just 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.960 be a person, and it was really cool good way, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:35.800 but you kind of understood some of the points they 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.560 were trying to make, but not in a way. But 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.639 I think my favorite part of the movie were the 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.639 female or the woman characters in the movie because I 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.639 think they just like the black panther sister, his his 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.920 love interest, and even the general I mean, I thought 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.520 that was really cool. They did a great job where 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.919 it didn't feel like they were trying too hard to 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.359 do it. And I just think I thought that it 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.119 made the movie really charming. Angela Bastid, Letitia Right, and 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.119 Tony Career who's also on The Walking Dead. Um, they really, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.000 they really, they were all. It's destroying all the preconceived 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.000 notions like Wonder Woman, Oh, no one's gonna want to 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.680 watch a superhero movie with a woman in charge, and 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.000 then it makes all the money and this one, no 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:12.679 one wants to see a superhero movie with an all 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:16.640 black calf with the women may destroying all of that. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.560 Maybe I don't, maybe I'm different that way. I just 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.160 find it just makes the movie really charming. I don't 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:22.800 I don't know what it is where it's just like 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.400 you mean. And again I think it's because they they 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.359 do such a great job of it's it's not like 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:30.880 I think, So I don't know what it is. Maybe 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.119 sometimes people think like, oh, if we have a woman 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.240 lead who's like the the hero, she will play the 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.800 like a role of I don't know, Like, what's really 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.560 interesting is they still come across as feminine, and they 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.600 still like they don't seem to cross the band, and 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.840 they're still strong and powerful and leaders, and yet they're 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.359 still women, you know, and they still have very demure 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.600 qualities and I just find that attractive and it's not 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.800 like in a pushy way, so between woman and woman 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.440