1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in is verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's so nice to have you with us. And Senator 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: we are doing this show and honestly, as we were 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: show prepping, we didn't know what was going to happen. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: And now it looks like the Straight of horn Moves 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: is going to be reopen. After Trump announced a two 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: week double sided ceasefire. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, the end of Iranian civilization that was scheduled to 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: happen at eight pm Tuesday night, East coast time has 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: apparently been paused. It has been paused for two weeks. 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: President Trump announced a two week ceasefire. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: He did so. 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: After the intervention of the government of Pakistan asking to 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: negotiate peace between Iran and the United States. Iran has 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: stated they intend to open the Straight of Hormus. But 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: at the same time as we talk, right now, this 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: is late Tuesday night, Iranian missiles are still flying in 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: the air. We're gonna break down what we know, what's 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: happened so far, and what's likely to happen next. 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have all that for you as well. 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Bonus right, Now all, Right, Senata 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: so let's talk about the big news. Here and, look 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: The president made it very clear over The easter weekend 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: there was a hardcore deadline and that deadline was closing in. 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Quickly it was going to Be tuesday. Night The, PRESIDENT 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: i said On Pierre's morgan show, today he's not going to, 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Flinch like you need to listen to. Him it's very 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: clear he's not going to. Flinch and it was also 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: very clear when he was demanding if you want to 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: get a deal, done you got to open up the 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: straight and hoom. Moves that is exactly now What iran is. 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Saying they're going to do at least for hopefully the 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: next two weeks while they try to figure this thing. 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Out but that's the reason why The president said pause 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: to major military. 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: Action, WELL i got to, Say, ben you AND i 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: also said that exact same thing On monday's. Verdict and 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: So i'm just sitting here, wondering, Why, ben do you hurt? 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,559 Speaker 2: Me why do you bring Up Piers? 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: Morgan like why Because I'm commy's over. 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: THERE i was yelling At Dave, smith the crazy guy 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: that thinks because a terrorist organization. 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: Don't argue with crazy. People it's like wrestling with. Pigs 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: you get covered in mud and the pig enjoys. 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: It that's that's that's that's. 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: True you would have been proud though it was a 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: one on one AND i WILL i say very, KINDLY 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: i whooped his ABLESS I i just it was a beat, 67 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: down my. 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: Friend are you familiar with THE t SHIRT i refuse 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: to have a battle of wits with an unarmed. Band? Yes, 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Yes so Look monday's, podcast we did a deep dive 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: on this and The president's. Threat President trump's, THREAT i 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: believe was not a. Bluff he was not kidding and 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 2: at eight pm he was prepared to Unleash Holy hell 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: and to take out power plants across the nation Of 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: iran and take out bridges across the nation Of. Iran 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: and what we talked about was the big open question 77 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: was does THE I tola? Care to The malas? Care 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Are are they perfectly happy seeing their economy go literally 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: back into the dark, ages see the lights go, out 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: go back to having candles and be by fire pits 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: because there's no electricity in the. Country, well here's What 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 2: President trump put out On Trump's social On, tuesday based 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: on conversations With Prime Minister Shabbaz sharif And Field marshal 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: Asim munir Of pakistan and wherein they requested THAT i 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: hold off the destructive force being sent tonight To iran 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: and subject to The Islamic republic Of iran's agreeing to 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: the all, caps complete immediate and safe opening of The 88 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: strait Of. HORMUZ i agree to suspend the bombing and 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: attack Of iran for a period of two. Weeks this 90 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: will be a double sided cease fire ceasefires all. Caps 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: the reason for doing so is that we have already 92 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: met and exceeded all military objectives and are very far 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: along with a definitive agreement concerning the long term peace 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: With iran and peace in The Middle. East we've received 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: a ten point proposal From iran and believe it is 96 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: a workable basis on which to. Negotiate almost all of 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: the various points of past contention have been agreed to 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: between The United states And, iran but a two week 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: period will allow the agreement to be finalized and. Consummated 100 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: on behalf of The United states Of. America As president 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: and also representing the countries of The Middle, east it 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: is an honor to have this long term problem close to. 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: Resolution thank you for your attention to this, Matter President DONALD. J. Trump, 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: now in, Response iran put out a official, statement and 105 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: here's the response Of. Iran, tehran Seven april twenty twenty, 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: six on behalf of The Islamic republic Of. IRAN i 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: expressed gratitude depreciation for my dear, brothers The Prime minister 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: Of Pakistan sharif and The Field marshall mooneir for their 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: tireless efforts to end the war in the. Region in 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: response to the brotherly request Of Prime Minister. Sharif it 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: is tweet and considering the request by THE us for 112 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: negotiations based on its fifteen point proposal as well as 113 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: an announcement BY potus about acceptance of the general framework 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: Of iran's ten point proposal as a basis for, NEGOTIATIONS 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: i hereby, declare on behalf Of Iran's Supreme National Security, 116 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: council if attacks Against iran are, halted are powerful armed, 117 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: forces each capitalized will cease their defensive operations for a 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: period of two. Weeks safe passage Through strait Of hormuse 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: will be possible via coordination With iran's armed forces and 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: with due consideration of technical. Limitations Sayed ABBAS O, Agachi 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: minister Of Foreign, Affairs Islamic republic Of. Iran, now as 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: you AND i are sitting, here it is a few 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: minutes before Midnight tuesday. Night we don't know what's going to. 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: Happen we do know there are reports this evening Of 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: iranian ballistic missiles raining down On israel right, Now so it, 126 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: appears as of right, now the two way ceasefire is 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: not being honored By. Iran we don't know what will 128 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: happen On, wednesday On, thursday On. FRIDAY i will say 129 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: If iran can continues offensive attacks on its, NEIGHBORS i 130 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: am skeptical the two week pause will. 131 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Hold let me ask you a question about the wording, 132 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: there BECAUSE i think this is very interesting AND i 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: want your take on. 134 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: It two way. 135 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Ceasefire there was several people THAT i talked to In 136 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: israel that, said the reason why that verbiage may have 137 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: been used is to make it clear this was just 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: a ceasefire between THE us And. Iran this did not 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Include Israel. Iran that's why it was two, way not three, 140 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: way right trilateral you, know agreement, here and it looked Like. 141 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: Israel it also basically said like we're still gonna probably 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: be hitting targets over the next two weeks as. Well 143 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: is that part of the reason why The president said 144 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: it that? Way do you think So. 145 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you my technical and precise. ANSWER i 146 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: got no. IDEA i don't. 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: Know MIGHT i love doing this. Show if we don't know, 148 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: something we will tell. You i'm not gonna hide. 149 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: It, Look i'm reading the same tweet you. Are the 150 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: tweet says this will be a double sided. Ceasefire look 151 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: my suspicion is that was meant to Include. Israel BUT 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: i don't know. 153 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: That, OKAY i, SEE i read it oppositely THAT i 154 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: thought it was like a cheeky way of, Saying, hey 155 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: you guys In, israel y'all got to figure out your own. 156 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Thing and for the next two, weeks this is just, 157 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: us this is, me this is, us, aramn and that 158 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: gives The israel the freedom to do what they need 159 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: to continue to do in their. 160 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Opinion oh, look MAYBE i don't. KNOW i have not 161 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: seen any reports in the media or ON x of 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: additional attacks On iran. Tonight they may be. HAPPENING i 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: don't know That israel is not attacking a, randomnight BUT 164 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: i have not seen any reports if that's. Happening What 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: i've seen is reports Of iran's attacks going, out and you, 166 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 2: know for, example The New York times always a questionable 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: source retired as. Follows by the, way twenty eight minutes. 168 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: Ago The New York Times, okay you ask AND i, 169 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: answer albeit with weak. Sourcing The New York times updated 170 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: twenty eight minutes. Ago Iran War live UPDATES Us iran 171 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: And israel agree to cease. 172 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: Fire, now, okay here you. 173 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: Go the deal came shortly Before President trump's deadline For 174 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: iran to reopen The straight Of Horne moser face. Devastation 175 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: israel said the ceasefire did not Include. Lebanon now that seems. 176 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: Fair lebanon With. Hesbela that's Not, iran Although hesbela is 177 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: An iranian. Proxy but that's. Fair here's what The New 178 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: York times. Reported and by the, WAY i don't what this. 179 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: IS i literally just found it on my phone And 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: i'm reading, it so we'll find out what it. Says 181 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: here's the. Latest The United states In iran reached an 182 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: eleventh hour ceasefire deal On tuesday, evening hours After President 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: trump threatened to start wiping Out iran's whole civilization if 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: it did not allow commercial shipping to pass safely through 185 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: The strait Of. Hormuse Mister trump announced the. Agreement pakistan 186 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: proposed each side observer a two week. Ceasefire it will 187 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: take months for global jet fuel supplies to return to. 188 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 2: Normal now here's another. Aspect oil prices plunge and stocks 189 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: surge after the ceasefire. Deal and here's What iran Or. 190 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: Iran The New York times. Posted oil prices tumbled and 191 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: stocks In asia surged On tuesday as investors breathed a 192 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: sigh of relief after The United states In iran reached 193 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: a last minute ceasefire, agreement temporarily avoiding a worst case 194 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: Scenario President trump following through on his pledge to wipe 195 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: Out iran the. Seat why is that a worst case? 196 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: SCENARIO i guess if you're The eyetola to worst case, 197 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Scenario i'm not. Sure For The New York, times you 198 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: know it would be truly horrific if The islamist regime 199 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: In iran that wants to Murder, americans it is Murdering 200 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: americans if if they suffered yet another. Loss that's The 201 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: New York. 202 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: Times let me keep. 203 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: Reading the ceasefire deal came ninety minutes for a deadline 204 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: set by Mister. Trump israel Supports President trump's decision to 205 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: stop Attacking iran for two weeks subject to the immediate 206 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: reopening straight Of horrmuves and the cessation Of iran tacks 207 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: against The United, States israel and other countries in the. 208 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: Region Officer Prime Minister Benjamin, netnia who said in a, 209 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: statement so we don't know right, now but, listen if 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: it gets the straight Of hormves, opened that's. Positive, yes 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: that is a step in the right. DIRECTION i will 212 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: say The iranian, military What President trump said in his 213 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: Truth social is exactly. Right many of the military objectives 214 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: have been. Accomplished the military has been, degraded almost out of. 215 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Existence it's one of the reasons The iranian statement about you, 216 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: know our are very powerful military will stop. Striking, yeah 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: there's virtually no military. Left it's like four guys with 218 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: a slingshot sitting on the back of a. Camel so 219 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: so it's, uh but but they're very powerful. Military what 220 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 2: they do have is some minds and some speedboats with 221 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: dynamites that have the potential of sinking potentially oil tankers 222 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: in the straight of Hor. Moves and so they are having. 223 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Leverage by the, way. 224 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: The way it was ascribed to me by a guy 225 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: in the, military when he was trying to explain to, 226 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: me like, again it's coming from a military, mind sat he, Said, 227 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: ben this is What americans need to, understand he, said 228 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and please explain this wherever you. Can we've taken out 229 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: them as a. Military they now have what he described 230 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: as terrorist. WEAPONRY a terrorist weaponry is completely different than military. 231 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Weaponry military weaponry is like you, know radar and and 232 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: ballistic missiles and airplanes that can have. Dogfights he. Said 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: terrorists can do things with, fertilizer they can do things 234 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: with with. Dynamite they can do things that are basic 235 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: as you just described, it like blowing a hole in 236 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: the side of an old tanker and having a massive you, 237 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: know economic as well as environmental issue in the sort 238 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: of horror. Moves and so the point he was making 239 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: was this idea THAT i mean he went back To 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Al kada and isis you can do a lot of 241 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: damage with very basic. Things car bombs are great, example with, fertilizer, 242 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: ammonia you, know the very basics as he described. It he, 243 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: said the good news is we've decimated. 244 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: The military In. 245 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Iran we have not decimated he described it the terrorists 246 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: aspect Of iran because all you need is a couple 247 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: crazy guys with very little, resources and you can do 248 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: something on a terrorist. 249 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: Scale and we've seen that all over the. 250 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: WORLD i think that's exactly. Right and understand the strain 251 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: Up Horn moves is Not iran's to. Control that is 252 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: not part Of. Iran that is international. Waters it just 253 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: happens to be nearby To. Iran and the fact that 254 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: they're willing to act as. 255 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Terrorists explain to everybody how the straight up from is 256 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: supposed to. WORK i think a lot of people don't 257 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: understand the the international aspect of. THIS i think THERE'S 258 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: i think also the media has been really portraying almost like, 259 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: well it's kind of a rans, anyway and they let 260 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: us use. 261 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: It that is a. Lie can you explain that for? 262 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: People real? 263 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Quick, look at the end of the, day it doesn't 264 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: operate materially differently than say The Atlantic ocean Or Pacific. 265 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: Ocean if if you're sailing From New York city To, 266 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: london you're going to cross The, atlantic and you know, 267 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: what there is a possibility halfway across The atlantic of. 268 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: Piracy someone someone out on The. Atlantic you could be 269 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: in an ocean, liner could pilot a ship into your 270 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: into your, boat and or and have dynamite and explode 271 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: and sink. It. 272 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 273 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Now and by the, way piracy used to be a frequent. 274 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: PERIL i mean that was not an. Unusual there's a 275 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: great series That i've watched On. Netflix you ever Watched Black? Sales? 276 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: No, Oh Black? 277 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Sales W why have you been holding out of me 278 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: for a guy that tells you that all these other 279 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: movies they gotta watch You you you have this. One 280 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: this actually seems like ONE i want to watch. 281 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: Now. 282 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah so it's actually not a. Movie it's a series 283 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: and it's like four seasons. Long. Uh and it's about, 284 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: Pirates Black. Sales it's about pirates in The, caribbean and 285 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: So blackbeard is in, it and it's really well. DONE 286 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: i watched the whole. Thing, Look i'm on airplanes all the, 287 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: time so as you, KNOW i download lots of. Series 288 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: by the, Way, ben we have done a movie. Podcast 289 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: we haven't done A netflix download. PODCAST i want to 290 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: do that at some. Point maybe we'll do it for 291 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: holiday or. SOMETHING i think those BECAUSE i have a 292 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: lot of Series i've, downloaded But Black sales goes. Through 293 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: there was a whole era where where if you're taking you, 294 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: know cotton from uh from a plantation in The, south 295 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: and you're going going to The, caribbean or you're going To, 296 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: england you might encounter pirates who would come along with 297 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: cannons and and boord you and protect potentially kill everyone on, 298 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: board and steal. 299 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: Your cargo and. 300 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Piratecy it's not entirely gone, away but it's mostly gone. 301 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: Away and it's mostly gone away due to The United. 302 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: States and one of the things that happened Post World 303 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: war two is The United states took a responsibility of 304 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: ensuring navigation of the open. Seas and it wasn't we 305 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: didn't have to do, that but it produced more than 306 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: a half century of global trade and commerce where people 307 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: could you could put a shipping container from The United 308 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: states To, england from The United states To, asia and 309 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: the odds of it being robbed on the high seas 310 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: were pretty. Low they weren't, zero but they were pretty. 311 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: Low and it produced you, know when The Roman empire 312 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: was at its, height the world saw something called The Pax, 313 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: romana The peace of The, romans because The Roman empire prevented. Threats, 314 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: well we had for some time been going through what's 315 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: called The Pax, americana which is the peace that The 316 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: americans have brought by allowing global shipment and. Trade The 317 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: straight Of forebuz is a much more constricted place because 318 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: it's just it's going around where you don't have much, 319 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: space and if you're going through The Suez, canal you 320 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: got to pass through, there and it's a narrow, passage which, means, 321 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: look If iran wanted to try to shut off transit 322 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: across The Atlantic, ocean that's a really big body of 323 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: water that's not easy to. Do The strait Of hormous 324 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: is not that, big and so it is a natural 325 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: choke point where a terrorist can. Focus it's Interesting iran 326 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: is promising to open it, up so we'll see what that. 327 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: Means but there are also reports Of iran continuing the 328 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: fire ballistic, missile so we'll see if the ceasefire even 329 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: last twenty four. Hours every Missile iran, FIRES i think 330 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: decreases the chance of the ceasefire. 331 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Maintaining, Yeah, no you're. RIGHT i want to ask you another. 332 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: QUESTION i got a lot of questions to ask you Tonight, 333 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: center because there are QUESTIONS i keep getting asked AND 334 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: i want your take on. THEM I alway was asked 335 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: this question By Peers morgan and he, Said, ben what 336 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: is what is your deaf and of success In? Iran 337 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: my answer, was, LOOK i think the media has changed 338 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: it to the only thing that is acceptable to not 339 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: be considered a failure is if the regime falls and 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: there's this like, massive you, know moment In iran where 341 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: the people. WIN i, said my definition of success is 342 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: taking away the threat Of iran being a nuclear power 343 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: and being able to kill innocent, men women and children And. 344 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Americans that is my definite success NOW i bonus right 345 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: a moral victory above that would be if you truly 346 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: saw regime change and the fall of the leadership In. 347 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Iran right, Now i'm not so obsessed with that. POINT 348 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: i think the people Of iran they got to decide for. 349 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Themselves but for, me it was all about the nuclear 350 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: capabilities and making sure they could do no harm to 351 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: us and to innocent. People, ALSO i think in The 352 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: Middle east around the, world that Includes, israel what is 353 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: your definition of success? Here because the media is trying 354 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: to say a this is a. Quagmire quagmire by the, 355 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: way if you Ask, ai for, example they'll say it's 356 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: years into a war if it's stagnant or you're not making, 357 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: gains not four weeks, in five weeks in or six, 358 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: weeks and that's. Absurd but the media keeps going to 359 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: use the word we're in a quagmire. ALREADY i think 360 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: that's an absurd. Lie and now they're saying the only 361 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: way this could be a success For trump is the 362 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: WAY i described. It they describe, it which is the 363 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: regime falls and that's. 364 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: It, well, look there was a very interesting, story a 365 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: long story in The New York times today about the 366 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: inside decision making in The trump administration behind the decision 367 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: to go to war With, iran and it describes the 368 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: TikTok up to, it right up until the point On 369 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: Air force one On friday Where trump gave the go. 370 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: Order AND i was With President trump On Air Force 371 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: one at the time he gave the. ORDER i did 372 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: not know he had given that, order but he was 373 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: asking me and the others On Air force one what 374 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: we thought should he do, So and it turns out 375 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: on that flight is where he actually gave the go. 376 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: Order and it. 377 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: Describes that there was a vigorous debate within the administration that. Jd, 378 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: vance The vice president was the most vocal opponent of Striking, 379 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: iran and there was a vigorous back and forth among the. 380 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: Cabinet and it described four different steps of the military. 381 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: Engagement number one decapitating The iranian, regime taking out The 382 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: iotola and the senior military. Leadership number two destroying their ballistic, 383 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: missiles their, drones their ability to wage. War number three 384 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: incentivizing The iranian people to rise up in, revolt and 385 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: number four seeing a new, government seeing regime change In. 386 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Iran and there was considerable debate the according to The, 387 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: times AND i got to, say just reading the, ACCOUNT 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: i don't know that it's exactly, accurate but it read 389 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: it ran in a way that was very. Plausible there 390 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 2: was considerable agreement that steps one and two were very, 391 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: accomplishable very, achievable and life achievable and fairly short. Order 392 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: and there was considerable debate about whether steps three and, 393 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: four a popular uprising and replacing the regime with another, 394 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: regime whether those were. ACHIEVABLE i can tell you what 395 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: The trump administration has. Articulated it has articulated its goal 396 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: was number. Two number two is what it's described as, 397 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: goal which is taking Out iran's ability to wage WAR. 398 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: Yep and in particular it's described Look iran that there's no. 399 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: Indication i've seen no evidence That iran had nuclear weapons 400 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: or was close to getting nuclear weapons that they were 401 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: trying last summer And President trump launched bunker busters and 402 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: took out their nuclear weapons research, facilities including infordoh in 403 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: the basement of a mountain that had devastating. Effect so 404 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: the reason this military attack was launched was not to 405 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: stop an, imminent imminent realization of. 406 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: Nuclear weapons tomorrow type of. 407 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: Thing, yeah the reason it was launched is they were 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: vigorously rapidly building ballistic missiles and, drones and they were 409 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: doing that because they wanted such a large arsenal that 410 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: If israel or The United states Attacked, iran they would 411 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: be able to inflict massive damage on their neighbors and 412 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: kill a lot of. People and The trump administration didn't 413 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: want to be in a position a year from now 414 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: when say they had launched their nuclear weapons research and development, 415 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: again but when the cost of intervening was so high 416 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: that thousands of people might. Die because they had so many, 417 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: missiles they could just carpet bomb their neighbors and kill 418 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: hundreds or even thousands of. People and so The trump administration, said, 419 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: look if they develop enough missiles and enough, drones they 420 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: would do that as essentially an umbrella to shield their 421 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: ability to then develop a nuclear. Weapon AND i Think 422 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: iran with a nuclear, weapon the odds are unacceptably high 423 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 2: they would use. It that was the major reason that 424 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: we launched this. Attack and what The trump administration articulated 425 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: is their objective was to take out the air, defenses 426 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: to take out The Air, force to take out The, 427 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: navy to take out the ballistic, missiles to take out the, 428 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: drones to take out the, launchers to take out the 429 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: drone manufacturing, capability to take out the missile manufacturing. Capability 430 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: we've done essentially all of. That the success has been. Extraordinary, 431 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: now the administration has by and large been very reluctant 432 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: to use the words regime. Change AND i understand. Why 433 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: regime change is associated With. Iraq it's associated with hundreds 434 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 2: of thousands of troops on the ground for years on. 435 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: End it's associated with Escalating american casualties and. Fatalities And 436 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: President trump is not interested in that kind of military. 437 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: Conflict the chances of that, HAPPENING i believe are. Zero 438 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: trump doesn't want to do, that and so regime change 439 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: people are really nervous to say that's the. Objective WHAT 440 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: i have said the objective should be is regime. Collapse 441 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: this regime a regime Of islamists who chant death To, 442 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 2: america who fund, terrorists who are Killing, americans and who 443 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: want to continue Killing. AMERICANS i think that is a 444 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: danger to The United. STATES i don't care who takes their. 445 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: PLACE i don't care if it's the crown, prince the Shaw, 446 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: SAN i don't care if it's a military strong. MAN 447 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: i don't care if the democratically elected leader from the. 448 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: People that's not my. Concern i'm not in the nation building. 449 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Business my objective is not to Turn iran Into. Switzerland 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: that's up to the people Of. Iran if they want 451 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: a peaceful, society that's. GREAT i wish them all the, 452 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: well all the best at. 453 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: All but. 454 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: It's not THE us military's job to do. That it 455 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: is THE us military's job to take out. Enemies. NOW 456 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: i do agree that seeing a regime of, tyrants particularly 457 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: a regime of tyrants willing to kill up to forty 458 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: thousand of their own, citizens seeing them fall is not 459 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: easy so the objective of regime collapse may prove really. 460 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: DIFFERENT i hope we keep at, it but opening The 461 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: strait Of hormuz is a really important tactical. Step and 462 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: by the, way if we end up with a government 463 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: that has a negotiated settlement where they stop funding terrorists 464 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: and they stop Killing americans and they stop trying to Kill, 465 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: americans that is a, huge huge. VICTORY i don't know 466 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: if we get, there but WHAT i Told President trump 467 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: that the day he ordered the attack is is this 468 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: regime has never been weaker than right, now and we 469 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: will regret. It we will regret it for years and 470 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: decades if we miss this, opportunity because there's very few 471 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: things on Planet earth that would Make america safer than 472 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: getting this murderous regime out of power so they could 473 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: no longer be able to Kill. 474 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Americans all, right let me ask you another question that's 475 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of fodder, online AND i think it's 476 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: an important one to. Answer democrats and the media really 477 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: seem to be trying to figure out some, way even 478 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: if there's success with This iranian policy Of, trump that 479 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: they can stick it To Donald. Trump and now the 480 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: new thing over the last twenty four to forty eight 481 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: hour has Been Donald trump is advocating for committing war 482 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: crimes by blowing up bridges potentially In iran and power 483 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: plants In. Iran let's talk about the war crimes aspect 484 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: of this and deal with What americans need to know 485 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: about this new line by the, left because, THEY i, 486 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: mean they care more About Donald trump being in trouble 487 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: than actually taking out a murderer's regime In. 488 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: Iran that's. 489 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: True AND i will say one of the sad. Things 490 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: it used to be the case for a long long 491 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: time that politics ended at the water's, edge in other, 492 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: words That republicans And democrats battle here at home over 493 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: all sorts of, issues but when it comes to military conflict, 494 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: abroad when it comes to Defending, america that the two 495 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: sides refrain from partisan. ATTACK i got to say that 496 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: is not the case. Anymore the Instant President trump launched this, 497 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: Attack democrats began savaging. Him you, know we had a 498 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: classified briefly short shortly after the beginning of this attack 499 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: where you had The secretary Of, State Secretary, Defense chairman 500 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: of The Joint, chiefs the head of THE, cia kind 501 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: of all the top national security apparatus in The trump, 502 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 2: administration and all one hundred senators attended that and they 503 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: were laying out what was. Happening and, Look i'm not 504 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: going to say anything that was said by the briefers 505 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: in the classified, briefing BUT i can tell, you other 506 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Than John, fetterman who has been very positive on what 507 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: he said publicly about about the conflict With, iran every 508 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Single democrat senator in the room was, highly highly. Skeptical 509 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: was attacking what, happened was opposing what. Happened was started 510 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: on day one with we are against standing up To, 511 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: iran AND i sat there and just kind of shook my. 512 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: HEAD i was saddened by. That and so one of 513 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: their talking points when When President trump said he was 514 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: going to take out power plants and, bridges and why 515 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: did he say power plants and? Bridges by the, Way, 516 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: look the biggest thing to take out For iran is 517 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: their oil production facility Carg, island which is the key 518 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: to where they export virtually all they're oil FROM yep Carg. 519 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: Island if we really wanted to Cripple iran and put 520 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: them into The Stone, age we'd take out their their oil. 521 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: Facilities we'd bomb the hell out of Carg, island And 522 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: iran's economy would just be screwed for a. 523 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: Decade, yeah. 524 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Instantly by the, way people need to understand that if 525 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: you just wanted to decimate them, economically that is how 526 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: you would do, it and it would not be that. 527 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: Hard So trump very deliberately has not done. That the 528 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: reason he said power plants and bridges is because they're 529 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: critically important to the. Economy you take out the power, 530 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: plants the electricity turns. Off the military is, crippled but 531 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: also the economy is, crippled the basic all of, banking 532 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: all of. Communication Lights literally at night people start lighting 533 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: candles because there's no longer the light switches don't. Work 534 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: and bridges are essential for, transportation both military and commercial 535 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: transportation across the. COUNTRY i think the reason he picked 536 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: those two is their enormous lever points and his hope 537 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: is that it would cause the collapse of this, REGIME i. 538 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: Believe but also it means if there were a new 539 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: government In, iran the oil facilities would still be, there 540 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: so they have the ability to generate billions in revenue pretty, 541 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: quickly and that billions if The United states military took 542 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: out the power. Infrastructure if you had billions in oil 543 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: revenue coming, in you could. Rebuild it wouldn't be, immediate 544 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: but having the revenue stream makes rebuilding much more possible 545 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: than if you take out the oil. Infrastructure the revenue 546 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: stream is much further down the road and it's much 547 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: harder to turn. AROUND i think that's WHY i picked. 548 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: It BUT i will, say we're getting a lot of 549 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: Pompous democrats and pompus news. Reporters ALTHOUGH i repeat myself 550 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: ON tv saying taking out civil million power plants is 551 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: a war. Crime, well let me read to you from 552 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: The Pentagon's law Of war. Manuals so The pentagon has 553 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: a manual on the law of. War here's what it. Says, 554 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: quote electric power stations are generally recognized to be of 555 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: sufficient importance to a state's capacity to meet its wartime 556 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: needs of, communication, transport and, industry so as usually to 557 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: qualify as military objectives during armed. Conflicts and by the, 558 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: way the broader section WHICH i will read from, you 559 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: this is in section five point six point eight point 560 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Five examples of military objectives economic objects associated with military, 561 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Operations and it says before WHAT i just, read economic 562 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: objects associated with military operations are with war supporting or 563 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: war sustaining industries have been regarded as military. Objectives that 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: is incredibly inconvenient for all of The trump haters in 565 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: The Democrat party or in the media who want to 566 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: scream war, crime war, crime war, crime because there's no 567 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: doubt the power generation is integral to the war fighting 568 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: ability Of iran and. LISTEN i will say the fact 569 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: That pakistan stepped in it actually goes to what we 570 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: said On monday's, podcast which Is trump's threat with any 571 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: ordinary and rational leader would be incredibly. Effective if you 572 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: actually had a leader that gave a damn about their, 573 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: people that gave a damn about their, economy that threat 574 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: would Be holy. Cow we can't let that. Happen the 575 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: risk factor is the very real possibility that THE i 576 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: told in The malas just don't care that they're willing 577 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: to see that kind of devastation to their. COUNTRY i 578 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: will Say Pakistan pakistan. Is i've long Described pakistan as 579 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: a problematic. Act they are an, ally but there are 580 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: challenges In. PAKISTAN i actually Put Pakistan. 581 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: It's a very diplomatic way of putting. 582 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: That, yes but you know, what they're an ally rather 583 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 2: than a, friend but there are real. Challenges we work With. 584 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Pakistan there are a lot of bad people or enemies 585 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Of america that are Within, pakistan but we work with 586 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 2: the government Of. Pakistan AND i think The Prime minister 587 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: Of pakistan stepped up and, said, hey, look you guys In, 588 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 2: iran don't don't go down this road and and and 589 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: end up. Crippling don't go back to the dark, ages 590 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: and and and this goes back to where Where pakistan 591 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: may have some credibility With. IRAN i don't know If 592 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: pakistan Provided iran something of an off ramp that that's 593 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: a good, interpretation or If iran's just seizing on this 594 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: to delay that's another interpretation that is. Possible BUT i 595 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: do Think pakistan stepping forward and saying let's have a 596 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: two week cease fire is an example of a more 597 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: normal country and a leader who presumably cares about his 598 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: people at least to a significant, extent stepping forward To 599 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: iran and, saying come, on, guys don't keep playing. Chicken 600 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: this doesn't end. 601 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: Up, well, yeah it's a great, point don't. Forget we 602 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: do this Show, Monday Wednesday. Friday you can also watch 603 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 1: it on YouTube as, well, so if you are on 604 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: YouTube put in verdict with Tech. 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