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<v Speaker 1>Ah, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everybody, Welcome to The Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Salisbury, Todd's Lucky. It's Friday, September twenty seventh, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, brought to you by the Foul Territory Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and I Today. Jim. How we doing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing good, doing well, well, getting ready for that

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<v Speaker 3>final Phillies series of the season. And they keep checking

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<v Speaker 3>off some of their goals here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they did one last night or Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>They clinched the first round by, which is something that

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<v Speaker 2>obviously they wanted to do, even though the Braves have

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<v Speaker 2>said that, oh man, that first round by was a

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<v Speaker 2>killer for us. Are you buying the first round and

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<v Speaker 2>buy stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? If you're a Phillies fan, should you be

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<v Speaker 2>nervous about the first round by?

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<v Speaker 3>I think just as many teams have, you know, conquered

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<v Speaker 3>that week off. I mean, Houston's had it a while

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<v Speaker 3>and they seem to do pretty well, you know. But

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<v Speaker 3>I do think baseball is an everyday game and you

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<v Speaker 3>need to keep your sharpness in your edge and somehow

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<v Speaker 3>don't play well it becomes a convenient excuse that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we lost our edge because there was a buy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's a perfect solution. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take it on a case by case basis.

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<v Speaker 3>When I look at this Phillies team with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of stars north of thirty, a lot of stars banged up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some really key starting pitchers and bullpen guys

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<v Speaker 3>who've carried a heavy load on this particular team, I

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<v Speaker 3>think the rest is going to be valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so too. But we kind of talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this the last time when we got together, and

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce mentioned made a point to mention that clinching the buy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say, and then we'll see what the lineups

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<v Speaker 2>look like after that, almost saying like, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 2>maybe use a couple of days. He didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>name anybody else. He'said, a bunch of guys can maybe

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<v Speaker 2>use a couple of days. Uh, those final three or

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<v Speaker 2>four games to give them a little bit there. What's that?

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<v Speaker 3>But they've played?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, right, Well, I think I think it sounded

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<v Speaker 2>to me like they wanted to make sure they locked

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<v Speaker 2>up that buy. So it will be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>what the lineups do look like this weekend in Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>And with the bye they're going to get their rest.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to get their rest.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also true. Yeah, that's also true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, would you be gonna I think they I think

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<v Speaker 3>the rest will will do them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, go ahead, No, I was gonna say, do you

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<v Speaker 2>Rob basically said, I'm not going to put guys in

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<v Speaker 2>harm's way to get that number one seed. What would

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<v Speaker 2>you do? How? In other words, how important is that

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<v Speaker 2>number one seed to you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's important to me, especially in the NLCS, But

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to get there, So yeah, you have to prioritize.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you always have to prioritize the health of

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<v Speaker 3>your players because they're the guys who ultimately will deliver

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<v Speaker 3>you where you want to go. So, you know, Wheeler

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<v Speaker 3>and Nola pitch what Saturday and Sunday. Yep, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>monitoring if if if if you know, if if they're

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<v Speaker 3>cruising and you're up six nothing, then yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>protect them and get them out of there and try

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<v Speaker 3>to save a little bit for a few bullets. If if, if,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go into that game, you know, basically tied

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<v Speaker 3>with the Dodgers and or a game behind the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>and you need that game, and they're they're losing or whatever. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and and you're not and you're not stressing. These pitchers

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<v Speaker 3>are not stressing physically, then they might ride them a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. So you know, it's kind of read and

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<v Speaker 3>react as the game goes along. As the game goes along.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I think they're in peril, if I think

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<v Speaker 3>putting their their health and jeopardy or their performance over

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<v Speaker 3>the next week, two weeks, three weeks, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully a month, uh in peril, then I'm getting him

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<v Speaker 3>out of there. I don't think the home field it

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<v Speaker 3>would be nice to have, really nice to have, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is not the be all and end all. And

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<v Speaker 3>we saw that in eight No. Nine when the Phillies

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<v Speaker 3>danced off the field in Dodger Stadium. This team can

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<v Speaker 3>win anywhere if it plays well.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree one hundred percent. Now here's a dumb This might

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<v Speaker 2>be a dumb question for you. But Saturday is Wheelers start,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was looking at his numbers because everybody's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about cy Young. He's at an one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three and two thirds innings, so he's got to go

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<v Speaker 2>six and a third to hit two hundred, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know everybody's gonna say, who cares. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>number that means something to Zach. So if say he's

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<v Speaker 2>pitching well, but the pitch count, I'm not saying he's

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<v Speaker 2>getting in a danger zone area. Would you push him

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<v Speaker 2>to six and the third just to get him two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred innings if you're Rob Thompson, or do you go

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, buddy, I know you want to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe maybe Zach would say, I don't, I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. But two hundred innings. I think there's only

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<v Speaker 2>been like one guy this year that that gets over

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<v Speaker 2>that number.

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<v Speaker 3>It all depends on the stress that he has pitched

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<v Speaker 3>to that day, how stressful the inning are right inning one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 3>four or five six. It depends if he's sailing and

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<v Speaker 3>he's cruising, you know, yeah why not, because he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to put him in jeopardy because I need to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I need to jump on his back in October.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he So he's not gonna if he's assuming he

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<v Speaker 2>starts gaming one of the nl ds, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a week from Saturdays, have a whole week yeah, rest,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know something that it jumped in my

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<v Speaker 2>head when popped in my head when I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at looking at his season stats, and like, does he

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a chance to beat Chris Sale? Interesting as close?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're one hundred percent right though. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred innings means a lot to him because he's

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<v Speaker 3>got that old school mentality, you know, finish for you

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<v Speaker 3>start innings mean something, so you know, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>to weigh in the fact that he's going to have

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<v Speaker 3>five days off. I just can't go in with a script.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to see how that day unfolds, how he looks,

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<v Speaker 3>how the ball's coming out of his hands, what what

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<v Speaker 3>the opposing team swings look like. The stress of his innings,

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<v Speaker 3>the stress of his pitches is he is it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>high stress or kind of is it just smooth sailing?

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<v Speaker 3>All that is going to go into it. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also gonna talk to him between innings, so we'll see what,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, We'll see how they how they do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about the Phillies getting a week off. You

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<v Speaker 2>know who's not gonna get the week off is the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves Mets. They get that came raigned out last night,

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<v Speaker 2>so now they have to they're gonna play they They're

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna play a double header on Monday with Game

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<v Speaker 2>one of the NL Wildcard Series on Tuesday. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>wild situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Braves have a tough final series against you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City that needs every win it can get. Now

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<v Speaker 3>the Braves have to I'm sorry, the Mets have to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Milwaukee, and they got to cut out everything

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<v Speaker 3>they can cut out. It's uh, it's amazing how many

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<v Speaker 3>times we've seen this over the years. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>always talk about April weather, but September weather impacted so

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<v Speaker 3>many things over the years. You know, I remember hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember a hurricane at the VET. They moved the

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<v Speaker 3>time up once. That was chilling, going for three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>strikeouts down in Miami and dodging a hurricane. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy, September weather can because all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>Now it impacts what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>In the playoffs totally. Maybe a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>remember that in DC there was like well then they

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<v Speaker 2>had like four or five games. It was some weird In.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty two, there was so much marine and every

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<v Speaker 3>played two doubleheaders, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Every weather experts like they're not playing a single game.

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<v Speaker 2>They got all those games.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable how much Right there was a hurricane.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Ian, Yeah, they and everybody said there's no chance

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<v Speaker 2>they play these games or there's gonna be a massively.

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<v Speaker 2>They somehow got every single game in. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they got to Houston, in Clinchton, Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what New York is buzzing about. The Mets. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know I love stories of teams and players

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<v Speaker 3>that finished strong, like Nick Cassis. He has a big

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<v Speaker 3>night on U on Wednesday. He has really turned it on.

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<v Speaker 3>Since the middle of May. The Houston Astros were left

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<v Speaker 3>for dead. They have really turned it on. The New

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<v Speaker 3>York Mets were left for dead. They have really turned on.

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<v Speaker 3>Both teams. Were are they going to sell? Are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to sell?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>There were you know ones in and ones ones right there.

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<v Speaker 3>But New York is really buzzing. I before I went

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<v Speaker 3>to bed last night, I flipped on the radio as

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<v Speaker 3>I occasionally do, and uh, in Philadelphia it was Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>That was all they were talking about was Eagles. So

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<v Speaker 3>I flipped up the dial to the New York station.

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<v Speaker 3>All they were talking about was baseball Yankees.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Mets.

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, yeah, it's uh so, you know, and part

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<v Speaker 3>of it was because you know, the Mets have been

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<v Speaker 3>hot and now they're now they're facing this rain situation

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<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta. What's that going to do to them? But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I still think, my god, you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be unthinkable back in the back in the day

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, back only the division winners went to

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. But can you imagine a Mets Phillies playoffs series?

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<v Speaker 2>If that would be so cool, that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be a nightmare logistically for us to cover,

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<v Speaker 2>just because there'd be so many, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit the crush of people, but it would be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. If you're a baseball fan, which which

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<v Speaker 2>we are, that would be a great series. Two teams

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<v Speaker 2>they hate each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, speaking of being a baseball fan, I uh, watching

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<v Speaker 3>some of these highlights of them close the Coliseum in

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<v Speaker 3>Oakland is kind of sad, kind of sad. I mean that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when I was just coming of age as

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<v Speaker 3>a baseball fan as a kid, was when the A's

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<v Speaker 3>would winning those three World Series. And I can still

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<v Speaker 3>see highlights in my mind of Gene tennis, hitting a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of home runs in the World Series and then

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<v Speaker 3>bouncing up that staircase and left field at the Coliseum,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know the team. I grew up watching

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<v Speaker 3>the seventy five Red Sox school in there and end

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<v Speaker 3>there the as you know, dynasty, the three straight World Series,

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<v Speaker 3>and then as a as a sports writer, as a

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<v Speaker 3>baseball writer, working at the fill off your inquire. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>remember the famous game where where Jeter made that great

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<v Speaker 3>play and cut down and cut down Jeremy Giambi at

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<v Speaker 3>the plate. I actually covered. I was at that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of sad seeing that place closed and

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<v Speaker 3>the fans be disappointed, but yeah, the world changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's Ricky Henderson's daughter throughout the first pitch of

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<v Speaker 2>the game the other day, and that's that's where it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hit me. He's like, gosh, man, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Henderson. I know he played for the Yankees and

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of other teams, but for me, he's Oakland,

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<v Speaker 2>A's all the way kid coming up. I think he,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just running wild against my hometown Brewers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know that stadium, there was a kid

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<v Speaker 3>we both know who actually pitched a high school championship

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<v Speaker 3>game or got the save. He played shortstop, then he

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<v Speaker 3>came in and got the save in a big championship

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<v Speaker 3>playoff qualifier Inland, California, in uh prep, you know, high

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<v Speaker 3>school baseball. And he actually threw ninety four miles an

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<v Speaker 3>hour according to his high school coach who told me

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<v Speaker 3>the story. And that kid's name was Jimmy Rollins. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, you know, that's right. Now. I think about

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<v Speaker 3>all those things when I see that that building gets

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<v Speaker 3>set to close, and of course they started right here

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<v Speaker 3>in Philadelphia. Now they're going to be moving for a

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<v Speaker 3>fourth time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. So Jim, let's let's let's break out

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<v Speaker 2>words to me. One thing popped out, sure popped out

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<v Speaker 2>to you too, which is Rob Thompson on what night

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<v Speaker 2>did they clinch? Tuesday night, Monday night, Monday nightday night

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<v Speaker 2>they clinched and Rob Thompson gives a speech. He brings

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<v Speaker 2>in John Middleton and he drops, I want my bleeping

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<v Speaker 2>trophy back. He's been saying for a long time. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is finally the year they're set up for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the history of that remark was they win in

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Wait, and then they get back to the World

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<v Speaker 3>Series and they lose to the Yankees and Yankee Stadium

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<v Speaker 3>and he said that I think Ryan Howard in the

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<v Speaker 3>clubhouse after that loss, and it's become this mantra. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's become something you know, we all say and he

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<v Speaker 3>jokes about, but deep down inside, John Middleton means that

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<v Speaker 3>he wants his bleeping trophy back. And you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>an owner who backs up his words. If I'm a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the type of owner I want owning all my

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<v Speaker 3>teams because he's gonna he wants to win and he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to throw out the resources to back it up

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<v Speaker 3>and try to make it happen. So, yeah, after they clinched,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the history of it, we know the

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<v Speaker 3>history going back to two thousand and nine and everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Gabe Kaplan mentioned it in his introductory press conference

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. And then when they had the introductory meeting

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<v Speaker 3>in clear Water in February this you know, this spring training,

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<v Speaker 3>John Middleton addressed the team and he, you know, made

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<v Speaker 3>mention of the famous quote and he wants to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>the trophy back. And then before they popped champagne corks

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday night, Ub Thompson brought John Middleton to the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the room and and said, John, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get it for you. So a lot of confidence, and

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<v Speaker 3>they should be confident. They've got a hell of a team.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they might have the best team entering the

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<v Speaker 3>postseason tournament. But it's about the team that plays the best.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are a lot of aspects of the game

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<v Speaker 3>that they need to shine and darting, pitching, bullpen, defense,

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<v Speaker 3>base running, offense. They need to be consistent on offense,

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<v Speaker 3>avoid some of the some of the things that give

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<v Speaker 3>him a lot of problems. We know what that is,

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<v Speaker 3>chase and swing and miss. And they just need to

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<v Speaker 3>be consistent offensively, defensively, get the starting pitching, get the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the team that plays the best. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they play the best, then they'll get his bleeping trophy

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<v Speaker 3>back exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he said this a couple of times now with

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<v Speaker 2>the last year, and I love it. He's like, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>really talks about owners who you know, made the most

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<v Speaker 2>money during their tenure. He's like, you know, nobody talks

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<v Speaker 2>about how much money do the Yankees make in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenties and the sixties or whenever they had their runs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he wants to be remembered as a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who brought some World Series Championship trophies to the Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>because people will very fondly remember him for that many

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<v Speaker 2>decades from now. Jim, we got some We asked for

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<v Speaker 2>some listener questions, viewer questions, So let's rat off a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with this one. Everybody, it got a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of these because it's always on the always on mind.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from thirty Ballparks on Instagram. What does the

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<v Speaker 2>future hold for Taiwan Walker in Philadelphia? J? T. Nason

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram also asked why would Rob Thompson but Tywan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker in with the bases loaded and two outs? He

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<v Speaker 2>put him in the bases loaded in that second inning

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, Tuesday, basically because he said he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>find out if this guy can come into a dirty

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<v Speaker 2>inning and get the job done, and he showed he

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<v Speaker 2>could not get the job and did not get the

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<v Speaker 2>job done. He walked the first two batters he based,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them were eight pitch at bats. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that I mean, I don't see how you

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<v Speaker 2>can put him on the postseason roster. I asked Rob

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<v Speaker 2>after that game on Tuesday, that last bullpen spot. So

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<v Speaker 2>if they the Phillies carry a twelve man pitching staff,

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<v Speaker 2>four starters, eight relievers, it would give him an extra

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<v Speaker 2>bench guy. Does he feel that he needs to have

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<v Speaker 2>that eighth bullpen guy, that last bullpen guy? Does he

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<v Speaker 2>need him to be somebody who if the game goes

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<v Speaker 2>extra innings? Now, remember the current extra inning rules are

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<v Speaker 2>not in play in the postseason, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the automatic runner, so you could theoretically have an eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>inning game. Asked him if he feels like he needs

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that can go four or five six innings in

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<v Speaker 2>an emergency situation. He says he doesn't feel that they

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<v Speaker 2>need that, that they have enough guys in there that

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<v Speaker 2>can go multiple innings, and whoever that eighth man could

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<v Speaker 2>be is going to be somebody that can go multiple innings.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think Taiwan is going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason roster. I don't know how you could put

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<v Speaker 2>him on the postseason roster. I don't know who that

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<v Speaker 2>last guy is going to be, Colby Allard, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be Spencer Turnabull. He's gonna throw on Friday, And talking

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<v Speaker 2>to a couple people the other day at the ballpark,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't think it's a pipe dream or anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that that he could be back in the postseason and

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I mean, wouldn't you roll the dice on

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer term if they feel that he's healthy. I would

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<v Speaker 2>probably roll the dice on Spencer Turnbull if they feel

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<v Speaker 2>that he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it depends how he looks Friday, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if he looks good and if he's healthy, you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the Taiwan thing hasn't worked. It just hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you did a great job answering uh

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<v Speaker 3>part of that question about what do you do now

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<v Speaker 3>postseason roster? You know, if you're going to carry him

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<v Speaker 3>as a mop up man, he's going to come in

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<v Speaker 3>with the team down. He's just going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get you to the end of the game, right, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that you're going to bring him into

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<v Speaker 3>a tie game and extra innings because he's pitching. It

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<v Speaker 3>ain't going to be tied much longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And as far as the long term, I've been saying

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<v Speaker 3>this for a while. It's just for me, it'd be

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<v Speaker 3>tough to bring him back. I just think it's been

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<v Speaker 3>such a difficult year. I don't think he inspires the

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<v Speaker 3>confidence of his teammates, you know, where he is in

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<v Speaker 3>his career. I just I have a hard time seeing

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<v Speaker 3>it come back. It might you know, maybe he camps

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<v Speaker 3>out in Seattle at drive Line in the offseason and

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<v Speaker 3>get something going, you know, I don't know, Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>can eat seventeen million. He's owned eighteen and eighteen. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he can eat seventeen and seventeen and move him to

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<v Speaker 3>a team where he gets a fresh start. I just

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<v Speaker 3>think bringing him in it becomes sort of a distraction

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, every bullpen session you know, is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be scrutinized. Every outing in the grave foot League

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be scrutinized, and poor outing is going

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<v Speaker 3>to raise all these old questions again, it becomes a distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, you know what we're seeing right

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<v Speaker 3>now with the Eagles. You know, they know it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of obvious that the team pondered a coaching change in

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<v Speaker 3>the offseason right after their season ended. Last year, they

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<v Speaker 3>did not make a coaching change. Well, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>now the biggest issue surrounding this team is the head

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 3>coach and is he calling the plays? Is he not

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<v Speaker 3>calling the plays? Is he in charge? Is he not

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<v Speaker 3>in charge? It never goes away. So and given what

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<v Speaker 3>you've gotten from Taiwan Walker, I just I think and

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<v Speaker 3>where you might be going and what you might be

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<v Speaker 3>getting from in the future, knowing the way these things go,

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of projecting what you think you might get

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<v Speaker 3>from him in terms of on the mound contributions, it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard for me to see them getting a positive contribution.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they have to strongly consider eating the contract

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<v Speaker 3>and letting them go. And you know, he's been a

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<v Speaker 3>good guy and a good teammate. But I just think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a tough game, and sometimes you're gonna make tough

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<v Speaker 3>to see and I'm not even sure this decision is

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<v Speaker 3>that tough but you know, we'll say and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then now there's it hasn't happened a lot, but now

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<v Speaker 2>there is some precedent of some teams eating big contracts

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean it would be up there for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Pablo Sandoval, Madison Bumgardner, there's a couple other guys whose

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<v Speaker 2>contracts were massive, and that team's just dfad him and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're not going to get anything out

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<v Speaker 2>of this. And I feel like if we just talked

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<v Speaker 2>about John Middleton, if there's an owner out there who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go this offseason, and like if Dave Dombrowski says,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can sign this guy and this guy

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<v Speaker 2>for starting pitching depth, maybe until Andrew Painter is ready

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But we got to get rid of Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, to get these guys to sign, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to look at competition, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>case may be. I think I think Johnny goes all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's gonna love it, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he but he wants to win.

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<v Speaker 3>So really, if you're not getting a contribution.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So I think it's like, okay, sunk cost.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think he inspires any confidence with the people who

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<v Speaker 3>play behind him. In that case, it might be auditioned

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<v Speaker 3>by subtraction. But you know, there are so many issues

0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 3>that go with this. The inability to develop any organizational

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<v Speaker 3>pitching depth is crazy. You need to figure that out

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<v Speaker 3>and bring in some more. But I know what I

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<v Speaker 3>would do. I would shake his hand and say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not sure it's the right answer, but that

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<v Speaker 3>would be the way I would go.

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<v Speaker 2>T Montgomery on Instagram, Cal Stevenson or Weston Wilson for

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<v Speaker 2>the last bench spot on the playoff roster. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think his name is Cod Broad on Instagram. Who

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<v Speaker 2>will make the postseason player cut for the postseason roster?

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of the same question. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on what that last bench spot would be? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they optioned they optioned Cal the other day when they

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<v Speaker 2>activated Austin Hay, But that does not mean Cal cannot

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<v Speaker 2>make the postseason roster. You have to you get position

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.159
<v Speaker 2>players ten days after being optioned when they're eligible to

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<v Speaker 2>come back, so Cal can come back and make this

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<v Speaker 2>postseason roster.

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<v Speaker 3>So and you have Cody Clemens we think is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think Cody right because they they seem to love.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that bats He can play infield and outfield, so he's.

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<v Speaker 3>A left handed bat. Maybe you carry West and Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it comes down to the last day when you

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<v Speaker 3>know who your opponent is and you bear down on

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<v Speaker 3>the splits and all that stuff. Maybe it's a matchup

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<v Speaker 3>type decision based on the opponent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I tend to think it's going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because because if Austin Hayes is back, is

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<v Speaker 2>West and Wilson going to play much in left field?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not, because Austin Hayes's splits are so ridiculous righty

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<v Speaker 2>as versus lefties. So I don't know that Austin sees

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<v Speaker 2>any time in left field in the postseason and in

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<v Speaker 2>a platoon split. But yeah, if there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>lefties in the bullpen, maybe that maybe that Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe it's West. So yeah, I tend to think

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<v Speaker 2>it might come down to come down to matchups v.

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<v Speaker 2>Twins two thousand and eight on X Do you think

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the Phillies will get the number one seed in the postseason?

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<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers behind right now, Yeah, they're a half game.

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<v Speaker 2>They own the tie breaker. Which is important. So the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 2>of course have three this weekend against the Nationals Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>have they play when we're recording this. They have one

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>more against the Padres and then three on the road

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>against the Rockies. So they got all they gotta do

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is tie.

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 3>All they gotta do is tie. I think they have

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 3>a very good chance.

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:38.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I do.

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I think they have a very good chance.

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they got Yeah, I do, because they have They

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 2>got Wheeler and Nola going this weekend, So even if

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>they dial them back, they're going to be in a

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>position to win the game. Even if they do rest

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 2>a regular or two, they still have enough pop in

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that lineup to be at a Nationals team. Is yeah, thinking,

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>thinking is already clearing out their lockers as we speak.

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean favorable, you know, favorable schedule for the Phillies.

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 3>And we all know what. We all know what the

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 3>last weekend of a season looks like in a big

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>league clubhouse when you're not making the playoffs. There are

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 3>those cardboard U Haul boxes everywhere. Somebody goes to the

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 3>U Haul store and they buy packing tape and those

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 3>cardboard boxes and they're folded up and the guys open

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 3>them up and tape them up. And that's what the

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>National's clubhouse looks like right now. People throwing stuff in

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the U haul boxes and taking it to the packing ship.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And and all those players are going

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>to the clubby's going hey, can I get another box?

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Or can you send this here? Can you send that?

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the entire conversation those that last weekend for

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 2>the Nationals players.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:42.479
<v Speaker 3>But you're still gonna go out and play, you got

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 3>to say. And I think if you get early leads

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 3>and stop them early, you really demoralize them. And you

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 3>have them, you know, looking on their travel app on

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 3>their phone to see when their flight.

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Is exactly right. And I think the Phillies also, you know,

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>they certainly they have enough pride they're going to want

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>to go out there and play well. And I think

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>if they can get that number one seed, that's that's

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>something that they're going to want to do. So I

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Phillies are going to go into this

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>weekend coasting. I think they they know they have the

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 2>bye week coming up. They want to go in playing well,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>They want to get there at bats, they want to

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>stay sharp. So I don't think there's going to be

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>any like, you know, we got the buye, we have

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 2>the first round by let's just let's just let's just roll,

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 2>let's just roll over.

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 3>So funny. I got that same question yesterday from a

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 3>buddy of ours. Rich Hopkins asked me, Oh yeah, he

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 3>texted me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the gym and he wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to know, and I think they have a

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 3>pretty decent shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim will be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are back, Jim, We get this every week.

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<v Speaker 2>But people want to know who do you think would

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>be the best potential matchup for the Phillies in the postseason?

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>And who would be the worst potential matchup? Do you

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>want me to go over their season records head to

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>head on these and potential nl while NLDS opponents.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I think so. They they've they're game under five

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 3>hundred against the.

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Braves, right correct.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 3>They have a winning record against the Dodgers.

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, But they can't they're not going to play

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>then the Dodgers though, until the until the NLCS. They're

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 2>they're five and one against the pod Race, three and

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>four against the Diamondbacks, seven and six against the Mets.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 3>You know what, you know what? I might just I

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 3>like the Diamondbacks team. They can run, they got a

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 3>little pop, they got some good pitching, starting pitching. But

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 3>I might just all season long, it seems like and

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 3>they scare me a little bit.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 2>But sure, any any.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Team scares me if that team plays well and you

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 3>don't play well. But why not, you know, open the

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 3>mouth of the beast right out of the gate and

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>stick head in and say, you know, we're not scared yet,

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 3>why not bring them on?

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Bring them on, bringing that, you know what? I feel

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the same way. I feel like it's not like the

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Diamondbacks are a better team than the Phillies, or we're

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 2>a better team than the Phillies. Last year, the Phillies

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>just had a terrible five games and they swang out

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of their shoes. They got out of their game plan,

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>they chased way too many pitches. Yeah right, well right,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 2>but I mean they were up to nothing and then

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they just you know, those final five were terrible. But yeah,

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>those two games at home. I don't think there's a

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>team if the Phillies don't win the World Series this year,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>or I should say, if they don't get to the

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>World Series, if they would get knocked out in the NLDS.

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's because they played a team that

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>they don't match up great against. I think it's because

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>they just played bad. That's my opinion. I think it's

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>because they chased too many pitches. It's gonna be because

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>one of their starters had a bad game or one

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of their bullpen pieces who has been They've all been

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>really really good lately, they had a bad game or whatever.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna because, Man, this is a

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 2>team that they just can't beat. You know, they just

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>don't match up well. When the Phillies are playing their best,

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>they still can't beat the Diamondbacks or the Mets, or

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>the Braves or the Podres. I think if they're playing

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>their best or playing well, they can beat anybody in

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>the nationally.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Crazy, I'm more worried about you know, if I was

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the Phillies skipper, I'd be more worried about my own

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>own club house than the other clubhouse.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Right right West and Wilson fan on Instagram. Will the

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Phillies re sign Jeff Hoffman this offseason? That's honestly something

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I haven't really given a lot of thought to at

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 2>this point. But he's a free agent after the season.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Relief pictures are very volatile. He's going to cost a

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. They have Carlos Estevez is also a

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>free agent. I don't know if you could resign both

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>of those guys. I don't know if it makes sense

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>to resign both of those guys. I think you would

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>love to have both of those guys.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 3>It reminds me a little bit of back in, you know,

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the seven to twenty eleven outstanding period they had Number J.

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>C Romero. He was actually, I think a release from

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Boston and Reuben signed him, brought him in and he

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>had that great run, and then he became a free

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>agent and then we signed him to a three year deal.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I know the market was a lot different then. But

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>do I think they'll resign Jeff Hoffman. I think they're

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna try. He's really a valuable piece. I think they're

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna try. He's found success here. I would think there'll

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>be mutual interest, but he also has to look out

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 3>for himself and make the best deal possible. But I

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>think he's a pretty important guy down there, So I

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>think this is a very good chance.

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>If I wonder if it's like tigos of the runner.

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>If you can sign only one of them, say, for instance,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Estevez or Hoffman, I wonder how that comes into play.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>He just does the front office go, well, we gave

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>up a lot to get Estevez, we'd like to keep

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>him to show a little bit more something for the trade.

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Or does that not come into play? I guess it's

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>just the best baseball decision. Probably.

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I have a feeling they might skew a little

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 3>bit more toward Hoffman, a little more history there with him.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you gave up two good arms.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you knew that going in, you knew.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>It going in, And if you pick up a World

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Series championship here and keep packing that house, it's gonna

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>be worth.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>And PERRENDOZI on X out of all the NL East clinchers,

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>which one is your guy's favorite? Reason why?

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 3>NL East Clinchers?

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and l least Phillies NL East clinchers. I wasn't

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>around for anything before seven, So I guess it's seven

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to eleven. And then this year I started covering, Yeah, right,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>ninety four, ninety four, Okay, so the year after, Yeah,

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you're I guess for me it's seven because that broke

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the streak, and there were I mean, I remember fans

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>were you talk about the Mets fans going nuts, same

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 2>type of vibe that year in seven, I was like,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, finally fourteen years and so the excitement

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that day, you know, Jason Worth has talked about that

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot over the years, you know, walking on in

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the field a half an hour before the game and

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>just fans going fricking nuts because they were watching the

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>game on the scoreboard, the score change on the scoreboard

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and right field back when they had the scores on there,

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and just the roar of the crowd throughout that game

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 2>was was so much fun and the team just had

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>a blast celebrating that one. Yeah, that was cool. And

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>then the only one, the other one for me would

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>be well twenty ten with Halliday getting in and those

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>guys remember that they waited. Roy was doing an interview

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>on the field with Gary Matthews and they're all sitting

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>there with the champagne bottles, and it was Brian Schneider

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>and was it Mike Sweeney yep, Okay, two other guys

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>that had never been in the postseason, and they waited

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>for Roy to come in because they wanted them to

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>be the first guy to pop those champagne bottles. I

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>thought that was cool. That was down at Nationals Park.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>That was really cool. I remember that like it was yesterday.

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 3>That tells you how much respect they had for Doc

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and O seven Yeah. I mean you're right on

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that whole lead up to the seven clinch because they

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>hadn't been to the playoffs in fourteen years and they

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>make this run and it was like every night you

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 3>can't wait to get to the ballpark to see what's

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 3>going to happen as they're chasing down the Mets. It

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>was such a drama, and then you know, when they

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>finally did it. I remember that day. It was the

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 3>ballpark was packed and the white towels and uh you know,

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I remember my kids begging me to go to the

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>game they were little, and uh yeah. It was just

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 3>very very memorable. O seven and the Doc one was

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>was very memorable. I remember the night day clinched in eleven.

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I remember you and I talking to Cliff Lee's wife

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 3>on the field.

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right about coming back and yeah, that's right,

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that's right.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 3>And I remember I remember you you talking about how

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 3>his mannerisms. You're asking her about his mannerisms and how

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>he's just like shrugging whatever, and he goes with him

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>saying whatever all the time.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>That's right. I do remember saying that, yeah, because every

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>time we asked him something, right, he was just chill whatever.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, all nine World Series in game one whatever.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>This is from Evan. Two more and then we'll get

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>rolling here. Evan j Nie on X. Do you see

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>this period of Phillies baseball is finally making the transition

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>to being perennial contenders like the Yankees, Dodgers or Braves.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Given the changes we've seen in player development the front office,

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>it feels like they are making all the right moves.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's certainly what they want, and that's certainly what

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the owner wants. He wants them to be there every year.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 3>They have their financial resources to do it, to go

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>out and get you know, that complimentary free agent or

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 3>even that free agent to put you over the top.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at their roster right now, dotted with

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 3>high priced free agents. But you know, I still think

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>it's vital that you have the organizational infrastructure to bring

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 3>your own players, because I don't think you can survive

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 3>always by free agency, and I do think they've made

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 3>great strides there and building the infrastructure of the franchise.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 3>And you know, they have some good looking players. Justin

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Crawford was in town on Wednesday night. Obviously, this Aiden

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Miller kid, Andrew Painter. So you know, it just it

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 3>takes all aspects. You need to build your own guys

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 3>and you need to be able to have the wherewithal

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>to go out and add the key free agents. So

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 3>do I think they can sustain yet? And I think

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're a big market. You know, that has

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 3>to be almost not just the goal, it has to

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 3>be the expectation, right, Look at the support they get

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 3>in the stands every night. So if you keep putting

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 3>winners on, you're going to get to get that support,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be able to kind of sustain

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>and self sustain by the support you get from this market.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 3>So it's a great, great market, and it proves proves

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>it to us, you know, whenever they win this year

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>just another example, so I think, yeah, it should be

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the norm rather than the exception.

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.959
<v Speaker 2>Stretches like this Bryce. Bryce said on Monday night, he said,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, people talk about windows he's like, there is

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>no window here with with John in charge basically, you know,

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and Dave in charge, that they're going to try to

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, ring and I get what he's saying, you know,

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>there is a window now.

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 3>And then he also said at the end.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>He's like, this is our window right now, because he

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>knows that there's only so many prime years left of

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Bryce Harper. Sure he hopes to be one of the

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 2>guys in his late thirties early forties still hitting thirty

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 2>bombs this season, and you know, I'm sure they hope

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>that Tray Turner is still hitting three hundred whatever position

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>he's playing in nine years from now.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I do agree with the commitment you have from ownership

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>in the in the infrastructure you've built in yea, all

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>phases of the operation player development wise, you should be

0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 3>able to sustain that window and and you should be

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 3>able to keep creating new windows. But that said, I

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>think the window is now for this nucleus totally, the

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Schwarber Harper, Real, Mudo, Wheeler, Nola Turner, Castianos nucleus. I

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 3>think it's right now absolutely, And you know, when the

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>window closes on this nucleus, Miller Painter Crawford, maybe a

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 3>different free agent, maybe a veteran bomb, a veteran Stot.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 3>They will still be here, but it becomes, you know,

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of a different window, if you.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Will right last one. This is from Phil's Info ten

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>on X. Does the Red October crowd have a similar

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 2>impact on visiting beat writers as it does on visiting players.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not screaming at Mark Bowman, Nara, my

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>my colleague from MLB dot com or Braves writer. You know,

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm not intimidating him like like Phillies fans. I will

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 2>say this though, it is is kind of cool to

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>see visiting broadcasters and visiting writers come in and say,

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>there's that was insane. That was insane. I've never seen

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>a postseason crowd like that. I've never seen a postseason

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>crowd like that. And I think, I don't know if

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I said this on this show recently or if I

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>was talking to somebody about it. I think the big

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>difference between Citizens Bank Park and the other twenty nine

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>ballparks in the postseason is that every ballpark will get loud.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, Petco Park will get loud. If the Phillies

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and Pottery's are playing, Dodger Stadium will get insanely loud.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>It will get as loud as Citizens Bank Park in

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the postseason if shoe Ohtani hits a three run bomb

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>in the ninth inning to beat the Phillies nlc ASK game.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>But I think the big difference is that the crowd

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 2>in Philly will get loud, will stay loud throughout. They

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>will recognize a seven pitch at bat, We're going into

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 2>a twelve pitch at bat. They will get louder and

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>louder and louder. They will sense a rally brewing, and

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>they will get on their feet and cheer for that.

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Where That's the thing I think the big difference is

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>they can sense when a team is in trouble, the

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 2>opposing team is in trouble, and they will get really

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>loud to try to intimidate the pitcher. I don't see

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that at other parks. So that's it is cool to

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>see that. It's not just me thinking that way, that

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like the other opposing writers and posing broadcasters like

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>man like John Smoltz was in New York theater days,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he said it in an our

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>show too. I've never seen a ballpark like that in

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 2>the postseason before, and.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 3>It's happened for a long time, going back to the

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 3>NLCS in the seventies. When the Veterans stadium fans rattle

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>for Houghton, they can really rattle an opposing team. But

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like chicken in the egg. I think

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 3>it needs to be performance in from the home team

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Phillies as well, because that's what they really latch onto

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 3>and build their kind of the kind of he comes

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 3>like a wild far when the team is playing well,

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 3>he gets louder and louder and louder. But uh, you know,

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I hear comments from guys who come

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 3>into that stadium and say, well, this place is a madhouse.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 3>But you're right. I've seen Dodgers Stadium in madhouse San

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Diego in twenty twenty two. It was a madhouse city field.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I would imagine there's going to be nuts, you know.

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I covered the Yankees in the old Ballpark.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I covered there in all their postseason runs ninety six

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 3>through one, and you'd sit in the press box and

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 3>it would shake, it would shake, like you know, you

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>think this thing is going down, so you know it's uh,

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 3>but I do think. You know that Rob Thompson quote

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>four hours a hell. It does mean something, but the

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 3>team's got to perform it. It got quiet in game

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>six and seven last year against Arizona.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Remember what Jeff Frank Cory said when he we talked

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to him, and I don't know when that was in June.

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 2>He said he was taking the car ride over were

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 2>before game six, he's doing the game for TBS, and

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 2>he could he could tell everybody was nervous. The guy

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that his driver, He's like, I'm a little nervous about

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>this one. And sure enough they got down and the

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>cow got really tense and really quiet. And it was

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>like that in Game five of the eleven nlds too.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>They got down one nothing you could sense everybody wash.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Was so tight. And that that in eleven, okay, is

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 3>that game five?

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:28.879
<v Speaker 2>That was Game five? Yeah?

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.720
<v Speaker 3>And when I think of the postseason a citizens Back Park,

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember we were working together at the Inquirer and uh,

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 3>the Phillies. I guess it was all seven because they

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 3>finally got back to the postseason and the late great

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Jerry Fraley walks in the press box. Do you remember this?

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I do not remember this.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're gonna remember when I tell you, all right,

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>late great Jerry Frayley, who actually worked in Philadelphia in

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 3>the eighties, he comes into the press box, he's working

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>in Dallas. He comes into the press box at Citizens

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Bank Park and says, what happened to the vat? Where's

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the vat?

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>It's been such a long time?

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 3>And I said to you, because you were writing like

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 3>the main bigg there's your lead right there. How long

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 3>has it been since the Philly has been in the postseason?

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 3>And then quote this visiting writer, what happened to the vet?

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Remember that? Now?

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember that?

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Jerry was an all timery Hall of Famer all

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>went when in. All right, guys, we will be back

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>next week. It'll be the bye week. We'll have a

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of talk about. We can really dig into the

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>rastas and how they're gonna line up the pitching and

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>how are they gonna stay sharp so they don't have to,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, deal with those questions about the bye affecting him.

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 2>And we'll get in all that stuff next week. So Jim,

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I will smell you later.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Alrighty, smell you later, buddy.

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