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Speaker 1: Ah, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome to The Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,

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Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, Todd's Lucky. It's Friday, September twenty seventh, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, brought to you by the Foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 2: Jim and I Today. Jim. How we doing.

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Speaker 3: We're doing good, doing well, well, getting ready for that

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Speaker 3: final Phillies series of the season. And they keep checking

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Speaker 3: off some of their goals here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they did one last night or Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: They clinched the first round by, which is something that

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Speaker 2: obviously they wanted to do, even though the Braves have

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Speaker 2: said that, oh man, that first round by was a

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Speaker 2: killer for us. Are you buying the first round and

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Speaker 2: buy stuff?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Is that? If you're a Phillies fan, should you be

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Speaker 2: nervous about the first round by?

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Speaker 3: I think just as many teams have, you know, conquered

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Speaker 3: that week off. I mean, Houston's had it a while

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Speaker 3: and they seem to do pretty well, you know. But

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Speaker 3: I do think baseball is an everyday game and you

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Speaker 3: need to keep your sharpness in your edge and somehow

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Speaker 3: don't play well it becomes a convenient excuse that, you know,

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Speaker 3: we lost our edge because there was a buy. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a perfect solution. I think

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Speaker 3: you have to take it on a case by case basis.

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Speaker 3: When I look at this Phillies team with a lot

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Speaker 3: of stars north of thirty, a lot of stars banged up,

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Speaker 3: you know, some really key starting pitchers and bullpen guys

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Speaker 3: who've carried a heavy load on this particular team, I

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Speaker 3: think the rest is going to be valuable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. But we kind of talked

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Speaker 2: about this the last time when we got together, and

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Speaker 2: Bryce mentioned made a point to mention that clinching the buy,

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Speaker 2: and they say, and then we'll see what the lineups

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Speaker 2: look like after that, almost saying like, yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: maybe use a couple of days. He didn't want to

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Speaker 2: name anybody else. He'said, a bunch of guys can maybe

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Speaker 2: use a couple of days. Uh, those final three or

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Speaker 2: four games to give them a little bit there. What's that?

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Speaker 3: But they've played?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, Well, I think I think it sounded

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Speaker 2: to me like they wanted to make sure they locked

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Speaker 2: up that buy. So it will be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: what the lineups do look like this weekend in Washington.

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Speaker 3: And with the bye they're going to get their rest.

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Speaker 3: They're going to get their rest.

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Speaker 2: That's also true. Yeah, that's also true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would you be gonna I think they I think

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Speaker 3: the rest will will do them.

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Speaker 2: Well, go ahead, No, I was gonna say, do you

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Speaker 2: Rob basically said, I'm not going to put guys in

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Speaker 2: harm's way to get that number one seed. What would

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Speaker 2: you do? How? In other words, how important is that

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Speaker 2: number one seed to you?

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Speaker 3: It's it's important to me, especially in the NLCS, But

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Speaker 3: you've got to get there, So yeah, you have to prioritize.

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Speaker 3: I think you always have to prioritize the health of

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Speaker 3: your players because they're the guys who ultimately will deliver

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Speaker 3: you where you want to go. So, you know, Wheeler

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Speaker 3: and Nola pitch what Saturday and Sunday. Yep, I'm just

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Speaker 3: monitoring if if if if you know, if if they're

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Speaker 3: cruising and you're up six nothing, then yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: protect them and get them out of there and try

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Speaker 3: to save a little bit for a few bullets. If if, if,

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Speaker 3: if you go into that game, you know, basically tied

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Speaker 3: and you need that game, and they're they're losing or whatever. Uh,

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Speaker 3: and and you're not and you're not stressing. These pitchers

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Speaker 3: little bit. So you know, it's kind of read and

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Speaker 3: react as the game goes along. As the game goes along.

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Speaker 3: But if I think they're in peril, if I think

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Speaker 3: putting their their health and jeopardy or their performance over

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Speaker 3: would be nice to have, really nice to have, but

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Speaker 3: it is not the be all and end all. And

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Speaker 3: we saw that in eight No. Nine when the Phillies

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Speaker 3: danced off the field in Dodger Stadium. This team can

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Speaker 2: Agree one hundred percent. Now here's a dumb This might

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Speaker 2: be a dumb question for you. But Saturday is Wheelers start,

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Speaker 2: and I was looking at his numbers because everybody's talking

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Speaker 2: getting in a danger zone area. Would you push him

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Speaker 2: hundred innings if you're Rob Thompson, or do you go

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, buddy, I know you want to get there.

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Speaker 2: And maybe maybe Zach would say, I don't, I really

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Speaker 2: don't care. But two hundred innings. I think there's only

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Speaker 3: It all depends on the stress that he has pitched

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Speaker 3: he's cruising, you know, yeah why not, because he's not

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Speaker 3: going to put him in jeopardy because I need to,

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Speaker 3: you know, I need to jump on his back in October.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he So he's not gonna if he's assuming he

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Speaker 2: a week from Saturdays, have a whole week yeah, rest,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know something that it jumped in my

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Speaker 2: at looking at his season stats, and like, does he

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Speaker 2: actually have a chance to beat Chris Sale? Interesting as close?

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Speaker 3: I think you're one hundred percent right though. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: two hundred innings means a lot to him because he's

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Speaker 3: got that old school mentality, you know, finish for you

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Speaker 3: start innings mean something, so you know, and you have

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Speaker 3: five days off. I just can't go in with a script.

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Speaker 3: I need to see how that day unfolds, how he looks,

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Speaker 3: All that is going to go into it. And I'm

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the Phillies getting a week off. You

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Speaker 2: probably gonna play a double header on Monday with Game

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Speaker 2: one of the NL Wildcard Series on Tuesday. That's a

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Speaker 3: And the Braves have a tough final series against you know,

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Speaker 3: the Braves have to I'm sorry, the Mets have to

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Speaker 3: always talk about April weather, but September weather impacted so

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Speaker 3: many things over the years. You know, I remember hurricanes.

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Speaker 3: it's crazy, September weather can because all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs totally. Maybe a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: Every weather experts like they're not playing a single game.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable how much Right there was a hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Remember Ian, Yeah, they and everybody said there's no chance

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Speaker 2: They somehow got every single game in. It was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Since the middle of May. The Houston Astros were left

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Speaker 3: Both teams. Were are they going to sell? Are they

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Speaker 3: But New York is really buzzing. I before I went

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Speaker 2: If that would be so cool, that would be cool.

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Speaker 2: It would be a nightmare logistically for us to cover,

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Speaker 2: just because there'd be so many, you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: we are, that would be a great series. Two teams

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Speaker 3: Yes, speaking of being a baseball fan, I uh, watching

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Speaker 3: Oakland is kind of sad, kind of sad. I mean that,

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Speaker 3: bouncing up that staircase and left field at the Coliseum,

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Speaker 3: and then you know the team. I grew up watching

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Speaker 3: the seventy five Red Sox school in there and end

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Speaker 3: there the as you know, dynasty, the three straight World Series,

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Speaker 3: and then as a as a sports writer, as a

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Speaker 3: remember the famous game where where Jeter made that great

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of sad seeing that place closed and

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Speaker 3: the fans be disappointed, but yeah, the world changes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ricky Henderson's daughter throughout the first pitch of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. So Jim, let's let's let's break out

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Speaker 3: A left handed bat. Maybe you carry West and Wilson.

433
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Speaker 3: Maybe it comes down to the last day when you

434
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Speaker 3: know who your opponent is and you bear down on

435
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: the splits and all that stuff. Maybe it's a matchup

436
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Speaker 3: type decision based on the opponent.

437
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Speaker 2: That's what I tend to think it's going to be,

438
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: you know, because because if Austin Hayes is back, is

439
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: West and Wilson going to play much in left field?

440
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: Probably not, because Austin Hayes's splits are so ridiculous righty

441
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Speaker 2: as versus lefties. So I don't know that Austin sees

442
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: any time in left field in the postseason and in

443
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: a platoon split. But yeah, if there's a lot of

444
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: lefties in the bullpen, maybe that maybe that Yeah, maybe

445
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Speaker 2: that maybe it's West. So yeah, I tend to think

446
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: it might come down to come down to matchups v.

447
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Twins two thousand and eight on X Do you think

448
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: the Phillies will get the number one seed in the postseason?

449
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: The Dodgers behind right now, Yeah, they're a half game.

450
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: They own the tie breaker. Which is important. So the Phillies,

451
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: of course have three this weekend against the Nationals Dodgers

452
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: have they play when we're recording this. They have one

453
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: more against the Padres and then three on the road

454
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: against the Rockies. So they got all they gotta do

455
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Speaker 2: is tie.

456
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Speaker 3: All they gotta do is tie. I think they have

457
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: a very good chance.

458
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Speaker 5: Yeah I do.

459
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: I think they have a very good chance.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah they got Yeah, I do, because they have They

461
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: got Wheeler and Nola going this weekend, So even if

462
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: they dial them back, they're going to be in a

463
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: position to win the game. Even if they do rest

464
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: a regular or two, they still have enough pop in

465
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Speaker 2: that lineup to be at a Nationals team. Is yeah, thinking,

466
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: thinking is already clearing out their lockers as we speak.

467
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Speaker 3: I mean favorable, you know, favorable schedule for the Phillies.

468
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: And we all know what. We all know what the

469
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: last weekend of a season looks like in a big

470
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: league clubhouse when you're not making the playoffs. There are

471
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: those cardboard U Haul boxes everywhere. Somebody goes to the

472
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: U Haul store and they buy packing tape and those

473
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: cardboard boxes and they're folded up and the guys open

474
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: them up and tape them up. And that's what the

475
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: National's clubhouse looks like right now. People throwing stuff in

476
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: the U haul boxes and taking it to the packing ship.

477
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And and all those players are going

478
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: to the clubby's going hey, can I get another box?

479
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: Or can you send this here? Can you send that?

480
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: That's that's the entire conversation those that last weekend for

481
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Speaker 2: the Nationals players.

482
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Speaker 3: But you're still gonna go out and play, you got

483
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Speaker 3: to say. And I think if you get early leads

484
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Speaker 3: and stop them early, you really demoralize them. And you

485
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: have them, you know, looking on their travel app on

486
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Speaker 3: their phone to see when their flight.

487
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Speaker 2: Is exactly right. And I think the Phillies also, you know,

488
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: they certainly they have enough pride they're going to want

489
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: to go out there and play well. And I think

490
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: if they can get that number one seed, that's that's

491
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: something that they're going to want to do. So I

492
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: don't think the Phillies are going to go into this

493
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Speaker 2: weekend coasting. I think they they know they have the

494
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: bye week coming up. They want to go in playing well,

495
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Speaker 2: They want to get there at bats, they want to

496
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Speaker 2: stay sharp. So I don't think there's going to be

497
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Speaker 2: any like, you know, we got the buye, we have

498
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Speaker 2: the first round by let's just let's just let's just roll,

499
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Speaker 2: let's just roll over.

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Speaker 3: So funny. I got that same question yesterday from a

501
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Speaker 3: buddy of ours. Rich Hopkins asked me, Oh yeah, he

502
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Speaker 3: texted me.

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Speaker 2: I was at the gym and he wanted to know.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to know, and I think they have a

505
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Speaker 3: pretty decent shot.

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Speaker 2: Jim will be right back.

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Speaker 2: And we are back, Jim, We get this every week.

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Speaker 2: But people want to know who do you think would

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Speaker 2: be the best potential matchup for the Phillies in the postseason?

530
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Speaker 2: And who would be the worst potential matchup? Do you

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Speaker 2: want me to go over their season records head to

532
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Speaker 2: head on these and potential nl while NLDS opponents.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I think so. They they've they're game under five

534
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: hundred against the.

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Speaker 2: Braves, right correct.

536
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: They have a winning record against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, But they can't they're not going to play

538
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: then the Dodgers though, until the until the NLCS. They're

539
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: they're five and one against the pod Race, three and

540
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: four against the Diamondbacks, seven and six against the Mets.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you know what? I might just I

542
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: like the Diamondbacks team. They can run, they got a

543
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: little pop, they got some good pitching, starting pitching. But

544
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: I might just all season long, it seems like and

545
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: they scare me a little bit.

546
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: But sure, any any.

547
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: Team scares me if that team plays well and you

548
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: don't play well. But why not, you know, open the

549
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: mouth of the beast right out of the gate and

550
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: stick head in and say, you know, we're not scared yet,

551
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: why not bring them on?

552
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Bring them on, bringing that, you know what? I feel

553
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: the same way. I feel like it's not like the

554
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks are a better team than the Phillies, or we're

555
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: a better team than the Phillies. Last year, the Phillies

556
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: just had a terrible five games and they swang out

557
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: of their shoes. They got out of their game plan,

558
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: they chased way too many pitches. Yeah right, well right,

559
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: but I mean they were up to nothing and then

560
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: they just you know, those final five were terrible. But yeah,

561
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: those two games at home. I don't think there's a

562
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: team if the Phillies don't win the World Series this year,

563
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: or I should say, if they don't get to the

564
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: World Series, if they would get knocked out in the NLDS.

565
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's because they played a team that

566
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: they don't match up great against. I think it's because

567
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: they just played bad. That's my opinion. I think it's

568
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: because they chased too many pitches. It's gonna be because

569
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: one of their starters had a bad game or one

570
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: of their bullpen pieces who has been They've all been

571
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: really really good lately, they had a bad game or whatever.

572
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna because, Man, this is a

573
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: team that they just can't beat. You know, they just

574
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: don't match up well. When the Phillies are playing their best,

575
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: they still can't beat the Diamondbacks or the Mets, or

576
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: the Braves or the Podres. I think if they're playing

577
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: their best or playing well, they can beat anybody in

578
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: the nationally.

579
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: Crazy, I'm more worried about you know, if I was

581
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: the Phillies skipper, I'd be more worried about my own

582
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: own club house than the other clubhouse.

583
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Right right West and Wilson fan on Instagram. Will the

584
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Phillies re sign Jeff Hoffman this offseason? That's honestly something

585
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: I haven't really given a lot of thought to at

586
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: this point. But he's a free agent after the season.

587
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Relief pictures are very volatile. He's going to cost a

588
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: lot of money. They have Carlos Estevez is also a

589
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: free agent. I don't know if you could resign both

590
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: of those guys. I don't know if it makes sense

591
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: to resign both of those guys. I think you would

592
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: love to have both of those guys.

593
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Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit of back in, you know,

594
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: the seven to twenty eleven outstanding period they had Number J.

595
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: C Romero. He was actually, I think a release from

596
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: Boston and Reuben signed him, brought him in and he

597
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: had that great run, and then he became a free

598
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: agent and then we signed him to a three year deal.

599
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Speaker 3: I know the market was a lot different then. But

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Speaker 3: do I think they'll resign Jeff Hoffman. I think they're

601
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Speaker 3: gonna try. He's really a valuable piece. I think they're

602
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Speaker 3: gonna try. He's found success here. I would think there'll

603
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: be mutual interest, but he also has to look out

604
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Speaker 3: for himself and make the best deal possible. But I

605
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: think he's a pretty important guy down there, So I

606
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Speaker 3: think this is a very good chance.

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Speaker 2: If I wonder if it's like tigos of the runner.

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Speaker 2: If you can sign only one of them, say, for instance,

609
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Speaker 2: Estevez or Hoffman, I wonder how that comes into play.

610
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: He just does the front office go, well, we gave

611
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: up a lot to get Estevez, we'd like to keep

612
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: him to show a little bit more something for the trade.

613
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Speaker 2: Or does that not come into play? I guess it's

614
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: just the best baseball decision. Probably.

615
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a feeling they might skew a little

616
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Speaker 3: bit more toward Hoffman, a little more history there with him.

617
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you gave up two good arms.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if you knew that going in, you knew.

619
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Speaker 3: It going in, And if you pick up a World

620
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: Series championship here and keep packing that house, it's gonna

621
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Speaker 3: be worth.

622
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Speaker 2: And PERRENDOZI on X out of all the NL East clinchers,

623
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Speaker 2: which one is your guy's favorite? Reason why?

624
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Speaker 3: NL East Clinchers?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and l least Phillies NL East clinchers. I wasn't

626
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Speaker 2: around for anything before seven, So I guess it's seven

627
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: to eleven. And then this year I started covering, Yeah, right,

628
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: ninety four, ninety four, Okay, so the year after, Yeah,

629
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Speaker 2: you're I guess for me it's seven because that broke

630
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: the streak, and there were I mean, I remember fans

631
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: were you talk about the Mets fans going nuts, same

632
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: type of vibe that year in seven, I was like,

633
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, finally fourteen years and so the excitement

634
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: that day, you know, Jason Worth has talked about that

635
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: a lot over the years, you know, walking on in

636
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: the field a half an hour before the game and

637
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: just fans going fricking nuts because they were watching the

638
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: game on the scoreboard, the score change on the scoreboard

639
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: and right field back when they had the scores on there,

640
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: and just the roar of the crowd throughout that game

641
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 2: was was so much fun and the team just had

642
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: a blast celebrating that one. Yeah, that was cool. And

643
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: then the only one, the other one for me would

644
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: be well twenty ten with Halliday getting in and those

645
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: guys remember that they waited. Roy was doing an interview

646
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: on the field with Gary Matthews and they're all sitting

647
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: there with the champagne bottles, and it was Brian Schneider

648
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: and was it Mike Sweeney yep, Okay, two other guys

649
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Speaker 2: that had never been in the postseason, and they waited

650
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: for Roy to come in because they wanted them to

651
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: be the first guy to pop those champagne bottles. I

652
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: thought that was cool. That was down at Nationals Park.

653
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: That was really cool. I remember that like it was yesterday.

654
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: That tells you how much respect they had for Doc

655
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah and O seven Yeah. I mean you're right on

656
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: that whole lead up to the seven clinch because they

657
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: hadn't been to the playoffs in fourteen years and they

658
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: make this run and it was like every night you

659
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: can't wait to get to the ballpark to see what's

660
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: going to happen as they're chasing down the Mets. It

661
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: was such a drama, and then you know, when they

662
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: finally did it. I remember that day. It was the

663
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: ballpark was packed and the white towels and uh you know,

664
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: I remember my kids begging me to go to the

665
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: game they were little, and uh yeah. It was just

666
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: very very memorable. O seven and the Doc one was

667
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: was very memorable. I remember the night day clinched in eleven.

668
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: I remember you and I talking to Cliff Lee's wife

669
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: on the field.

670
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right about coming back and yeah, that's right,

671
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: that's right.

672
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: And I remember I remember you you talking about how

673
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: his mannerisms. You're asking her about his mannerisms and how

674
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: he's just like shrugging whatever, and he goes with him

675
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: saying whatever all the time.

676
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: That's right. I do remember saying that, yeah, because every

677
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: time we asked him something, right, he was just chill whatever.

678
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: You know, all nine World Series in game one whatever.

679
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: This is from Evan. Two more and then we'll get

680
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: rolling here. Evan j Nie on X. Do you see

681
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: this period of Phillies baseball is finally making the transition

682
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: to being perennial contenders like the Yankees, Dodgers or Braves.

683
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: Given the changes we've seen in player development the front office,

684
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: it feels like they are making all the right moves.

685
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly what they want, and that's certainly what

686
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: the owner wants. He wants them to be there every year.

687
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: They have their financial resources to do it, to go

688
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: out and get you know, that complimentary free agent or

689
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: even that free agent to put you over the top.

690
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look at their roster right now, dotted with

691
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: high priced free agents. But you know, I still think

692
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: it's vital that you have the organizational infrastructure to bring

693
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: your own players, because I don't think you can survive

694
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: always by free agency, and I do think they've made

695
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: great strides there and building the infrastructure of the franchise.

696
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: And you know, they have some good looking players. Justin

697
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: Crawford was in town on Wednesday night. Obviously, this Aiden

698
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: Miller kid, Andrew Painter. So you know, it just it

699
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: takes all aspects. You need to build your own guys

700
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: and you need to be able to have the wherewithal

701
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: to go out and add the key free agents. So

702
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: do I think they can sustain yet? And I think

703
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: you know, they're a big market. You know, that has

704
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: to be almost not just the goal, it has to

705
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: be the expectation, right, Look at the support they get

706
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: in the stands every night. So if you keep putting

707
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: winners on, you're going to get to get that support,

708
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: and it's going to be able to kind of sustain

709
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: and self sustain by the support you get from this market.

710
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: So it's a great, great market, and it proves proves

711
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: it to us, you know, whenever they win this year

712
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: just another example, so I think, yeah, it should be

713
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: the norm rather than the exception.

714
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 2: Stretches like this Bryce. Bryce said on Monday night, he said,

715
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, people talk about windows he's like, there is

716
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: no window here with with John in charge basically, you know,

717
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: and Dave in charge, that they're going to try to

718
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, ring and I get what he's saying, you know,

719
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: there is a window now.

720
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: And then he also said at the end.

721
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: He's like, this is our window right now, because he

722
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: knows that there's only so many prime years left of

723
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. Sure he hopes to be one of the

724
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: guys in his late thirties early forties still hitting thirty

725
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: bombs this season, and you know, I'm sure they hope

726
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: that Tray Turner is still hitting three hundred whatever position

727
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: he's playing in nine years from now.

728
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: I do agree with the commitment you have from ownership

729
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: in the in the infrastructure you've built in yea, all

730
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: phases of the operation player development wise, you should be

731
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: able to sustain that window and and you should be

732
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: able to keep creating new windows. But that said, I

733
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: think the window is now for this nucleus totally, the

734
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: Schwarber Harper, Real, Mudo, Wheeler, Nola Turner, Castianos nucleus. I

735
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: think it's right now absolutely, And you know, when the

736
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: window closes on this nucleus, Miller Painter Crawford, maybe a

737
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: different free agent, maybe a veteran bomb, a veteran Stot.

738
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: They will still be here, but it becomes, you know,

739
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: kind of a different window, if you.

740
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: Will right last one. This is from Phil's Info ten

741
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: on X. Does the Red October crowd have a similar

742
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: impact on visiting beat writers as it does on visiting players.

743
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

744
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not screaming at Mark Bowman, Nara, my

745
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: my colleague from MLB dot com or Braves writer. You know,

746
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: I'm not intimidating him like like Phillies fans. I will

747
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: say this though, it is is kind of cool to

748
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: see visiting broadcasters and visiting writers come in and say,

749
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: there's that was insane. That was insane. I've never seen

750
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: a postseason crowd like that. I've never seen a postseason

751
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: crowd like that. And I think, I don't know if

752
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: I said this on this show recently or if I

753
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: was talking to somebody about it. I think the big

754
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: difference between Citizens Bank Park and the other twenty nine

755
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: ballparks in the postseason is that every ballpark will get loud.

756
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: You know, Petco Park will get loud. If the Phillies

757
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: and Pottery's are playing, Dodger Stadium will get insanely loud.

758
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: It will get as loud as Citizens Bank Park in

759
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: the postseason if shoe Ohtani hits a three run bomb

760
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning to beat the Phillies nlc ASK game.

761
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: But I think the big difference is that the crowd

762
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: in Philly will get loud, will stay loud throughout. They

763
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: will recognize a seven pitch at bat, We're going into

764
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: a twelve pitch at bat. They will get louder and

765
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: louder and louder. They will sense a rally brewing, and

766
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: they will get on their feet and cheer for that.

767
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: Where That's the thing I think the big difference is

768
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: they can sense when a team is in trouble, the

769
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: opposing team is in trouble, and they will get really

770
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: loud to try to intimidate the pitcher. I don't see

771
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: that at other parks. So that's it is cool to

772
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: see that. It's not just me thinking that way, that

773
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: it's like the other opposing writers and posing broadcasters like

774
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: man like John Smoltz was in New York theater days,

775
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, I think he said it in an our

776
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: show too. I've never seen a ballpark like that in

777
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: the postseason before, and.

778
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: It's happened for a long time, going back to the

779
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: NLCS in the seventies. When the Veterans stadium fans rattle

780
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: for Houghton, they can really rattle an opposing team. But

781
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's like chicken in the egg. I think

782
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: it needs to be performance in from the home team

783
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: Phillies as well, because that's what they really latch onto

784
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: and build their kind of the kind of he comes

785
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: like a wild far when the team is playing well,

786
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: he gets louder and louder and louder. But uh, you know,

787
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: I you know, I hear comments from guys who come

788
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: into that stadium and say, well, this place is a madhouse.

789
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: But you're right. I've seen Dodgers Stadium in madhouse San

790
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Diego in twenty twenty two. It was a madhouse city field.

791
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: I would imagine there's going to be nuts, you know.

792
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I covered the Yankees in the old Ballpark.

793
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: I covered there in all their postseason runs ninety six

794
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: through one, and you'd sit in the press box and

795
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: it would shake, it would shake, like you know, you

796
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: think this thing is going down, so you know it's uh,

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: but I do think. You know that Rob Thompson quote

798
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: four hours a hell. It does mean something, but the

799
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: team's got to perform it. It got quiet in game

800
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: six and seven last year against Arizona.

801
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: Remember what Jeff Frank Cory said when he we talked

802
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: to him, and I don't know when that was in June.

803
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: He said he was taking the car ride over were

804
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: before game six, he's doing the game for TBS, and

805
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: he could he could tell everybody was nervous. The guy

806
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: that his driver, He's like, I'm a little nervous about

807
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: this one. And sure enough they got down and the

808
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: cow got really tense and really quiet. And it was

809
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: like that in Game five of the eleven nlds too.

810
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: They got down one nothing you could sense everybody wash.

811
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: Was so tight. And that that in eleven, okay, is

812
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: that game five?

813
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: That was Game five? Yeah?

814
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: And when I think of the postseason a citizens Back Park,

815
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: I remember we were working together at the Inquirer and uh,

816
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: the Phillies. I guess it was all seven because they

817
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: finally got back to the postseason and the late great

818
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: Jerry Fraley walks in the press box. Do you remember this?

819
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I do not remember this.

820
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna remember when I tell you, all right,

821
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: late great Jerry Frayley, who actually worked in Philadelphia in

822
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: the eighties, he comes into the press box, he's working

823
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: in Dallas. He comes into the press box at Citizens

824
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: Bank Park and says, what happened to the vat? Where's

825
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: the vat?

826
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: It's been such a long time?

827
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: And I said to you, because you were writing like

828
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: the main bigg there's your lead right there. How long

829
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: has it been since the Philly has been in the postseason?

830
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: And then quote this visiting writer, what happened to the vet?

831
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: Remember that? Now?

832
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

833
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: I remember that?

834
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: Now?

835
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Jerry was an all timery Hall of Famer all

836
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: went when in. All right, guys, we will be back

837
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: next week. It'll be the bye week. We'll have a

838
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: lot of talk about. We can really dig into the

839
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: rastas and how they're gonna line up the pitching and

840
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: how are they gonna stay sharp so they don't have to,

841
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, deal with those questions about the bye affecting him.

842
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: And we'll get in all that stuff next week. So Jim,

843
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: I will smell you later.

844
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: Alrighty, smell you later, buddy.

845
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,160
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