1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass Podcast. It is Monday, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: September eighth. The Ravens have opened the season with a 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: forty one to forty loss to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: On Monday, we had a chance to hear from head 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: coach John Harbaugh, who shared his perspective of the game 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: after having some time to look back at the film 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: and assess what went wrong during this opening game loss. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay, good to see everybody appreciate you being here. Had 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: a chance to dig deep into that game. Since we 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: got back late last night and meeting with all the 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: coaches this afternoon just finished up with that, I've had 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: a chance to even start on the Browns. So a 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: lot of work has been put in between between the 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: end of the game last night, traveling and then and 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: getting ready for next week. So I got a pretty 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: good handle on what happened and a good handle on 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: where we're going going forward. And we're excited about the 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: opportunity to move on and play the Browns and go 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: find a way to play our best football on Sunday 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: here at M and T and the home opener. What 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: questions you have. 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 3: John, when you're looking at the defense kind of throughout 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: the whole game. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 4: What do you think the biggest issue was. 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Because you know, repeatedly and not being able to slow 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: down Josh Hallen. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know that that was the biggest issue. 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we we understand Josh all we've played him 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: quite a few times. We had we had a little 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: more success here at our place last year the last 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: two times there not quite as much. But you know, 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: we we had a plan and uh and we just 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: didn't get it done. We weren't able to execute. We 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: couldn't keep him in the pocket. That was a big 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: part of the plan would be to keep him in 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 2: the pocket. We weren't able to do that. That's probably 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: the number one disappointment for me. You know, I think 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: when you when you when you let him extend plays 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: like that, you know he'll run for yards, but he'll 40 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: also find receivers downfield and they do a good job 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: of getting open and it's just hard to extend that 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: coverage long enough with his arm strength and accuracy on 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: the move. So that's the number one thing this early. 44 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: On the edge, just to keep him in the puckingers 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: is more complicated than that. 46 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: It's more complicated that which it just was. I mean, 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: he's not he escaped inside. He gets you going one way, 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: and maybe we overreact. And I do think there's there's 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: a way we have to get better at it, and 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: we can get better at it. And I do believe 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: watching the tape, you know, and just just really just 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: working on one thing. You get into a game, we 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: haven't played a game yet, it's an opening game, uh, 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: against a very good football team in a very hostile environment. 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of 56 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: emotions in that game there and and and you know, 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: you don't know exactly what react because you haven't played 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: a game yet with your guys, not a regular season game, 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: and so there's a lot of things you learn. There's 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: a lot of really good things that we learned about 61 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: our team, a lot of things that I'm really happy 62 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: about and excited about. And there's a lot of things 63 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: that you learn that it's like, oh boy, we got 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: to go to work on that. And I would say, 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: pass rush lanes. That's something that we've got to go 66 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: to work on. And it's not just four lanes. I mean, 67 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: there's different patterns that we use and and and we 68 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: just weren't as good as we need to be at that. 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: It's just one game. 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: But going back a couple of years, so of the 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: fourth quarter leads that have evaporated, is there a run of. 72 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: A reason for it, because it's happened awful lot. 73 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there is. I mean I think that 74 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: we've there's all those scenarios. If you look back at 75 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: all those games, you know, there's there's been a lot 76 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: of every game we've had, there's been a fourth quarter 77 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: and there's been a scenario. There's been games where we've 78 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: been in the in the bill shoes. You know, there's 79 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: been a new new number of games where we've come 80 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: back from two scores down and we've won. You know, 81 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: and how do you do that? How do you make 82 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: that happen? There's been there's been times where we've been, uh, 83 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: two scores up and we've and we've won. You know, 84 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 2: we've gotten the first down, we've we've we've we've done that, 85 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: We've we've been one score down and we've popped a run, 86 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: gone down and kicked the field goal, whether it's an 87 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 2: overtime or at the end of the game, or we've 88 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: gotten the stop. You know that we had to get. 89 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: But and maybe part of it's the fact that we've 90 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: been ahead a lot. You know, we've won a lot 91 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: of games, so we've had a lot of and we've 92 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: had a lot of two score leads, so we've we've 93 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: kept a lot of those, but we've I think we've 94 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: lost six of them. If I'm not mistaken, that's too many. 95 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't care how many two score leads you have. 96 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: And I do believe that we need to be really 97 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: thoughtful of, you know, how we decide that we're going 98 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to approach those situations going forward. You know, let's give 99 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: it some thought. Let's give some thought to our to 100 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: our play calling, Let's give some thought to our defensive 101 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: play calling. Let's give some thought to our mindset, like 102 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: how we're going to talk to one another. You know, 103 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: we're two scores up. You know, we're trying to keep 104 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: a lead against Josh Allen or any other or any 105 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: of these great quarterbacks in this league. You know, what's 106 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: our mindset on defense? How are we going to approach this, 107 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: How we're going to talk to one another on the sideline, 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, try to find a way to get to win. 109 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: It's it's kind of a it becomes kind of a situation, 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: a scenario, game scenario that we need to we need 111 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: to be really intentional about going forward. 112 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 6: I know you were asked about whether or not to 113 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: go far on fourth and three, whether to get your thoughts, 114 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 6: what do you think about. 115 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: The play call sequence leading up to that, And to 116 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: be more specific, you know Derek try runs in the 117 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: first time. Wasn't a big game, but come ball at 118 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: the fuel there. 119 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 6: And you know, maybe not put the ball in Lamar's 120 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 6: hands for a design run design run. 121 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, well there was a design run, so you know, 122 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean the play the play today was a design run. 123 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: That's a read that's a read option play. You've seen 124 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Lamar keep that going forward before, so you know that 125 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: that you know, in fairness it wasn't it was a 126 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: design run. And that's exactly right. I mean, that's that's 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: a play. 128 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 129 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: We took Derek off the field because that's that's a 130 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: that's a Jay and Justice type play that we had 131 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: designed for that. Derek doesn't really run run those plays 132 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: as much, so that's why he was off the field. 133 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: And probably it's not bad to give him a blow either. 134 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: At some point in time he's going to be back 135 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: out there again if you know, you're you're hopeful, or 136 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: you can throw it. You know. Now, do we want 137 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: to run a some kind of a swap boot, some 138 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: kind of a naked boot, or pin some kind of 139 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: a pin play and get Lamar outside the pocket? That's 140 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: definitely going through our mind. That's on the call sheet. 141 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: A drop back pass, you can run a drop back pass. 142 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: You might get zero, have some kind of a zero 143 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: check and try to beat him with a crossing route 144 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: or something. I mean, those are all all the types 145 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: of things that are that are on the call sheet. 146 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: You make a call, you know, and you and you 147 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: want it to work, you know, and when it doesn't work, 148 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: it's always the other thing. You know, sometimes you drop 149 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: back pass and it doesn't work, and so I just 150 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: give it to Derek or just do a quarterback design 151 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: run you know, why couldn't you run it? Throw it there? 152 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: Be more aggressive? You know? How about a boot? I mean, 153 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: these are all the questions that we're asking ourselves this morning, 154 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: and that that you just have to go to the 155 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: next week and try to do better the next week 156 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: and help you dial up the right play and execute it, 157 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: you know, execute it really well, and hopefully you get 158 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: the right defense or you check to the right call. 159 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 7: When you are in those situations and you have a 160 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 7: double a two possessional lead in the second half, I 161 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 7: just want to know, like, what is your philosophy in 162 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 7: those moments? What is your philosophy when you're up fifteen 163 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 7: and a fourth? Is it protect? Is it still be aggressive? 164 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 7: Just what is your message to the coaches? 165 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, my philosophy always on offense is that the 166 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: best way to burn it locker is to get first downs. 167 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: You know, that's the best way to burn time. So 168 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: you know, you do want to you want to manage 169 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: the clock, and you want to be smart about that. 170 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: You don't be snapping the ball with twenty seconds on 171 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: the play clock, and you do want to run as 172 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: much time off between places as you can remember the 173 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: clock's running, and that's just good clock management. But you 174 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: also don't want to do it sometimes in such a 175 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: way as that it takes takes away your momentum or 176 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: your ability to actually get the first down, because once 177 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: you start running play clock down under five seconds, then 178 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: the defense can tee off on you. I mean they 179 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: get a get off too, because they can see that 180 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: they can see the clock and they can see you 181 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: have to snap it on the next hut. So that's 182 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: that's that's that's a twofold part of it there. It's 183 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: like I I lean towards sometimes we'll give up a 184 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: little bit of time. Let's let's have a play doubt up, 185 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: but we can have the best chance to get the 186 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: first down because when you get the first downs like 187 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: we did on the first the first and ten play, 188 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: when you get the first downs, that's when you have 189 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: the that's when you can burn the most time. That's 190 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: how you win the game. 191 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: You both offensive and defensively down the stretch. So do 192 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: you every when when there's a blow and lead? People 193 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: always wanted to say, well things got too conservative when 194 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: you reviewed the plays offensively and defensively, do you think 195 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: you guys were aggressive enough down to scratch? 196 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: Offensively and defensively? Generally speaking, we try to be as 197 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: aggressive as we could be. You know, did we call 198 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: the right plays well? Hindsight, no, I mean they didn't work, 199 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: you know so, And I'm not just saying that to 200 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: blow it off, you know, I mean I kind of 201 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I kind of might have maybe we could have had 202 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: some sort of a naked boot. You know, I kind 203 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: of would have liked maybe if we'd have done that. 204 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Hindsight being twenty twenty, I'm not sure I want to 205 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: drop back pass, you know, against against the against zero 206 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: right there necessarily. But it's not to say we couldn't 207 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: have popped it because our guys are our guys are 208 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: good man rout runners, and maybe we get the ball off, 209 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, and and we get to catch and run. 210 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: But that ball can get batted down too, you know. 211 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: So that's that's one that you say, would that would 212 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: that have been a little more aggressive, That would have been. 213 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: But the ball gets batted down there, and it's like, ah, 214 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: why don't you just give it to Derek, you know, 215 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: or just put it in la Mars's hands and let 216 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: him run it, you know. So I think that's that's 217 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: the catch twenty two of the whole conversation. Defensively, well, 218 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: we tried everything, you know, we tried everything. We were 219 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: playing man, we were playing zone, we were blitzing, we 220 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: were we were coming off the edge, you know, we 221 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: were we were showing and dropping out of there. So 222 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: we just didn't really get them stopped in the last 223 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: two drives at all, and you know the plays that happened, 224 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: so we didn't execute a couple of times we uh 225 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: we let them sneak out of there with a sneak 226 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: running back, sneak play that should have been covered. I mean, 227 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 2: we have the means to cover that in that defensive call, 228 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: uh the sideline play and at the end of the 229 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: half that that should be covered. You know, that's there's 230 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be defended there at that at that 231 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: depth right there. That's the way the defense is built. 232 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: And I think that's part of what I was saying before. 233 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: You know, early in the season you do find some 234 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: things out, especially when you're playing a really good offense, 235 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: you get exposed a little bit. And we learned where 236 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: we have to get better too. 237 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 6: Cramping play falling early and that was more towards the end. 238 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: That wasn't really as early, and it didn't come up 239 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: earlier when something I had heard. 240 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 6: About, sorry I mentioned, you know, wanting to be intentional 241 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 6: and just like little details like opening kickoff that they returned, 242 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 6: you know, try trying to bend on that ball in 243 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 6: the one and kind of sliding in the sector points 244 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 6: and other things. How I guess disappointed were you in 245 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: those little details that kind of add up to you 246 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 6: knowing no doubt? 247 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and you know, I promise you 248 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: that when the Bills look at the tape, there's a 249 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: bunch of little details too. And matter of fact, you know, 250 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: he told me that after the game, you know, So 251 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of things that that turn up. But 252 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: when you lose the game, that's the one that's when 253 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: you start adding them up. You know where where it 254 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: could have made the difference. But you know, we had 255 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: we coach that, you know, inside the five yard line, 256 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: you stand your feet, you never leave your feet. That's 257 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: something that's been coached for a long time around here. 258 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: So but in that moment, we didn't. We didn't have, 259 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: you know wherewith all the thing to do it. So 260 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: we've all got to just learned from that, you know, 261 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: you you just have to learn from those things, otherwise 262 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: it's a wasted opportunity. 263 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: John, sorry to ask with Jack or you guys last time, 264 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 5: but on that four from three call, is there a 265 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: conversation between you and the guys who who fell about 266 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: the modeling the numbers might show about your your win probability, 267 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: Like here's what we can do if we go for it, 268 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 5: which what. 269 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: We can do if we punted. 270 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know exactly because that was a long gain, 271 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: so you don't know exactly what yard line you so 272 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: it's got to be quick. Uh. The win probability, I'm 273 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm it might have been I'm gonna say it might 274 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: have been maybe two percent or one percent something like 275 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: that going for it. Uh, And you got to make 276 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: the decision very quickly, and you got to say, do 277 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: we have a call that we really like? Do we 278 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 2: have a call we love here? Because you got to 279 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: send the punt team out. Are're gonna have a delay 280 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: a game, or you gotta send your offense out or 281 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: you're not going to get the playoff just that fast 282 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, Lamar was coming off the field 283 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: at that point. I could see something wasn't quite right, 284 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: and you say you gotta ge your punt team out there, 285 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: And that was really kind of It's a fast sequence 286 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: of events in that moment. But then again too, I'm 287 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: not shying away from putting our defense out there. I mean, 288 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: if you get stopped on fourth and three, it's did 289 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: you think about punting the ball and putting your defense 290 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: out there and giving them a chance to win the game. 291 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that would have been the next conversation because 292 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: they'd have been in field goal range already. So I 293 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: trust our defense, and I'm going to trust our defense 294 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: this year in a lot of big situations because our 295 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: defense is going to be really, really good. And I 296 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: know there's doubt about that right now, probably, but I 297 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: guarantee you our defense is going to play really good 298 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: football this year. How do you. 299 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: Balance being aggressive in those moments? Take the Chargers game 300 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 6: last year, obviously different scenario, first half, late first half, 301 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 6: where did one deepen your own end get it again? 302 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 6: Different very understanding, different variables, different time in game, all 303 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 6: of that. 304 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: How do you. 305 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 6: Balance when to be aggressive and do you feel like 306 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 6: you behind says you feel like you're aggressive enough? 307 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the balance is, do I really think 308 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: we have a really good chance to get it? You know, 309 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: because if we get it, we win the game. If 310 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: we don't get it there in field goal range. So 311 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: I think as I just explained all those things that 312 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: kind of went down in that sequence, you can understand 313 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: where it's like, what are our chances of getting that 314 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: right here? I mean, the mark's coming off the field. 315 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: You know something's not right. It's fourth and three? Do 316 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: we have a really good call and time clossing out? 317 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: Do I want to call time out and burn that 318 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: time out? Or do I want to have that time out? 319 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: You know, maybe you burn the time out right there 320 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: in that in that moment fourth and three, put our 321 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: defense out there. I think we get a stop, get 322 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: a good punt pening on. Do we love the punt? 323 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Don't love it? You know? So all the things that 324 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: happened after that are just things that happen, and you 325 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: got to do the best you can in a very 326 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: short period of time. So no, I don't think you 327 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: could sit there and say you can say, well, I 328 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: should have been more aggressive, And I don't think you 329 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: can definitively say that's the right thing either. You can't 330 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: really say that for sure, because it could have could 331 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: you could make that choice and could easily be having 332 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 2: the conversation the other way here. That's just the way 333 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: it works. 334 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: And told you we have to go for this. Would 335 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: you have had to call timeout? Do you think? 336 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Because yes, I would have definitely had to call time 337 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: out to get to get to get the play up 338 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: and do it. We've definitely had to. And I'm not 339 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: saying you couldn't have done that. We could have done that, 340 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: you know, but in that moment didn't seem like the 341 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: right thing. 342 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: You mentioned the defense, there was there was a lot 343 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: of talk this summer about the. 344 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: Depth of the defense, adding Alexander Drafting starts in the 345 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: first round. 346 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: There's a load of first round guys in the second area. 347 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 8: I think it was a collective surprise to see Josh. 348 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Kyle Lambinton even said it was upsetting to see how 349 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: many yards the champions people put up against that defense. 350 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: Why do you think it was so? Why do you 351 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: think they were so successful against. 352 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: This Well, it was in the fourth quarter mostly, you know, 353 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: it was it was most of the yards were in 354 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. So you're talking about just what we're 355 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: talking about in the fourth quarter there, you know. Uh, yeah, 356 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think we played. I don't think we played 357 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: some coverage is great, and he had too much time 358 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: and he had too much opportunity to extend plays. I 359 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: mean those two things. You know, a couple of times 360 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: we have a two deep coverage and we don't play 361 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: it great. They hit a whole shot on the sideline, 362 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, we'll get we get a we get a 363 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: man route and you know, it runs away from us, 364 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, or or we're too soft we're supposed to be. 365 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: We're supposed to be more aggressive man coverage out there 366 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: and on the edge, and we're five seven eight yards 367 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: off the receiver and we give an easy completion on 368 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: the sideline. I mean, just play the defense out the 369 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: way it should have been played, I think we'll be 370 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: We've got to do that, and that's just fundamental, you know, 371 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: and all of our guys will all take responsibility for that. 372 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: So that's what happened in the fourth quarter. And then 373 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: he extends plays, he starts running and he makes a 374 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: play downfield. That's what happened. 375 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: Well, when in the decision to scritch. 376 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: Numbers numbers, you just can't you can't get everybody up, 377 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, and you've got to make a decision about 378 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: who's going to be up and who's going to be down. 379 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: And the number of snaps you can get keating on 380 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: offense are pretty are pretty limited. You're going to take 381 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Derek off the field, You're going to take Justice off 382 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: the field to do it, and those are all going 383 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: to be designer plays, you know. That's that's what Keaton 384 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: does right now. He runs to kind of the designer plays, 385 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: So the defense is going to be like, what's he 386 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: out here for? On the on the four or five 387 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: plays that he's out there, it's going to be a 388 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: specific play that they are kind of got to have 389 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: their intenta up for. You got to you gotta balance 390 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: it out. And then special teams, you know, he's he's 391 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: he does okay on special teams, but he'll he'll tell 392 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: you he needs to get better in that area to 393 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: to justify the spot. Otherwise you're going light, you know. 394 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: In a couple other areas. 395 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: Have you heard from the league regarding Lamar's actions interactionally 396 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: with the fan and. 397 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: What's your take on that. 398 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: I have not heard from the league. 399 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 7: Bo. 400 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: My take is on it, And all I know is 401 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: what I read afterwards is, uh, Lamar's down there celebrating 402 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: a touchdown with his Teammate's just like you're supposed to do. 403 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about celebration, and we want our 404 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: guys to celebrate with one another, you know, that's what 405 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: that's the whole idea. Yeah, you know, and I didn't know. 406 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: I guess I didn't know you're not allowed to go 407 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: close to the to the to the stands, you know, 408 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: to do that without being attacked, you know, by a fan. 409 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: You score a touchdown, probably shouldn't have a frozen water 410 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: bottle thrown at you either, you know. It's so these 411 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: are the types of things that that I'm sure that 412 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: the NFL is going to address and deal with. And 413 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that you should even be in that situation. 414 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't know how any of 415 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: us would respond in that moment. I think it'd be 416 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: something we probably be thinking about protecting ourselves. I do 417 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: think that, you know, I just think we have to 418 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: understand that we can all say, hey, I'd like to 419 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: handle a little better. But that's a surprise when that happens, 420 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: I think in that moment probably for anybody. 421 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 7: Back to what you were saying about the secondary in 422 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 7: terms of the ad is supposed to be a little 423 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 7: more physical word, or in terms of where they were 424 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 7: lining up, was that more of a communication are they 425 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 7: or are they. 426 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: Just not doing now? 427 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: It's just I mean it played a lot of great place. 428 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we had a lot of really well played 429 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: plays too, So it's just consistent execution. There's a there's 430 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: a you know, the the ability to continue to execute 431 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: consistently and in to who you're going against and and 432 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: all those different kind of things. So it's it's a 433 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: long it's a long journey. I mean, pass judgment on 434 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: the game. That's what we do. We go back, we 435 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: gread it, we look at it, we look at each 436 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: play exactly for it stands for. We'll study it with 437 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: the guys tomorrow and we'll learn from it and we'll 438 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: understand that we've got to carry our lessons into the 439 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: next game. That's what it is. So that's that's what 440 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: you do. That's what you do in football, and that's 441 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: what you do probably in any kind of after action 442 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: for anything. And uh, and we'll do that. So that's 443 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: why you're willing to say, hey, you know what, we 444 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: can do that better. We have to do that better. 445 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: And then the other thing is to your point is 446 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: like why did it happen? So it's not just there's 447 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: no general why it happened. Communication, Yes, there's a there's 448 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: a couple of plays. It might be communication. Maybe it's 449 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: communication in the meeting room we didn't quite make it 450 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: clear enough, or maybe it got confused with some other 451 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: defense that we're running, you know, could have been confusion 452 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: with another call that he's kind of tying together in 453 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: his mind. You know. As a coach, you look at 454 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: all those all those little aspects of it to try 455 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: to get to the to the to the point where 456 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: there's a shared understanding and and you guys have a 457 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: real good vision of what you're doing, and and we 458 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: have that. We have a lot of really good things going. 459 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: It's just the start of the season, you know, so 460 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: we'll keep chasing that and then you become, like I 461 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: said last night, that's how you become the team that 462 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: you're going to be over the course of the Seasonal 463 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: in here all the full back rule, you know. 464 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: I think that was his first NFL ahead. Als Patrick progressing. 465 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, Patrick's doing doing well. He should be 466 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: out there practicing a little bit this week potentially, and uh, 467 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. And then I thought, I thought, uh, 468 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: I thought Saier did a really good job. I mean 469 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I thought he was really good. You know, he was 470 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: explosive and physical. He really brought it up in there 471 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: and and unloaded on some blocks and did a nice job. 472 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: You you guys trusted significant responsibility. What way did you 473 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: guys him out there as a rookie? 474 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Can you repeat that? 475 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: I like Teddy Muchannan. You guys gave him some snaps 476 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 4: on the defense. 477 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: What that Teddy? Yeah? I think between those two guys 478 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: there was about between fifty five and sixty snaps. I 479 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: think they were split pretty evenly. You know, Teddy might 480 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: have had like four more snaps something like that. And uh, 481 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: it probably was a plan going in. You know, in 482 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: that range of me, you never say one guy's going 483 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: to play a little more. Just the way it shook out, 484 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: we were splitting snaps, and uh, that seems appropriate right now. 485 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: I just kind of see how it goes. I thought 486 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: they both played solid. 487 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 8: Tyler said he was not happy with his process on 488 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 8: the miss extra point. On the other hand, he does 489 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 8: hit the two long field goals after you guys got 490 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 8: backed up. Did you see the data's kind of a 491 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 8: net positive for him or what was your kind of 492 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 8: takeaway on what needed. 493 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: To do this right? 494 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: I thought he made some great field goals and he 495 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: missed an extra point. You know, he pushed it and 496 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: hurt us, you know, so I'm really happy about the 497 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm really happy about the other kicks, the field goal 498 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: extra points. I'm really disappointed in the extra point that 499 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: he missed. I like the kicks that he was putting 500 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: on the ground and the kickoffs. I really didn't like 501 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: the one that he came up short on, you know, 502 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: so I just kicked the kick. Really to put a 503 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: general grade on it, I don't know, you know, does 504 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: it matter? You know, like as a kicker, you you know, 505 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: when you especially when you don't win the game, you 506 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: want to you want to be you want to be net. 507 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: You want to get everything, you know, every positive you can. 508 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: I know that's how he feels about it. So I'll 509 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: go with him on that. Let's make them all, you know, 510 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: and let's kick them all perfectly on the kickoffs. 511 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're two more. Speaking of process, just the kind 512 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 4: of a clarification from the last night. 513 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 6: Would you would you like to see Lamar take it 514 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: down to two minutes at that two of the three 515 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: mark instead of staffing you or or what was. 516 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: We got you're talking about that? No, No, that was 517 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: our plan if we got to play, we wanted we 518 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: got a five yard gain on that one, want. 519 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 6: To take it down to like run more clock. I 520 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 6: believe he could have taken it to the two minute 521 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 6: warning before. 522 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: Well, the idea there is because you want to get 523 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: a good play too, and sometimes you take it down 524 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: there and the defense thinks you're going to take it 525 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: down there, and they give you a look that you 526 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: really want, like that you can run out. Might be 527 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: a little soft look to run out that you might 528 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: not get otherwise. Sometimes if you're trying to save time, 529 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: it's a free run because you know the clock's going 530 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: to stop afterwards. But in that case, if we hadn't 531 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: gotten the look that we wanted, we would have just 532 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: taken it down. But since we got the look we wanted, 533 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: we ran it. I think we picked up five yards 534 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: on that, which was a good gain. That was our 535 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: thinking on it. I know the idea on more time 536 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: off they they don't get the ball back, but you know, 537 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: you don't know how fast you're going to score. But 538 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: at that point it's kind of that comes back to 539 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: the aggressive category. You want to be less aggressive and 540 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: run the time off, and you want to be more 541 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: aggressive and try to get some yards there and try 542 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: to get in the end zone. I mean, we're trying 543 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: to score a touchdown. There is what we're trying to do. 544 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, it didn't quite work out that way. I 545 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: don't think we had some bad plays after that, but 546 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: that was the idea. 547 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: Do you see anything to have about that? 548 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: Later on with tempt out, I did. No, couldn't have 549 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: been a safety I don't think. Am I wrong about that? 550 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: Which yeah, yeah, I told him that. I just questioned 551 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: whether we actually graduate from Notre Dame or not. That's 552 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: what I questioned him on. You know, It's like I 553 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: thought that was one of the most foolish things I've 554 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: ever seen. So he agreed and it should never happen again. 555 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: All right. 556 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: Thanks you're listening to the Ravens Press Past podcast. Make 557 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed here. Also head over to the 558 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Lounge podcast feed and subscribe there as well. Thanks for listening. 559 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: We'll be back with you on Wednesday.