WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: One-on-One 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.640 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:12.080 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The one on one I wanna 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:18.400 play that game tonight. Addition, as we bring you two 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.639 one on one conversations. The first is with one of 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.479 eight unrestricted free agents who signed with the Bengals in 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.120 the off season, Safety Von Bell, will discuss leaving the Saints, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:35.440 joining the Bengals and his insane daily schedule. The second 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.360 conversation is with national radio talk show host Adam Shine, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.879 who also writes a column for NFL dot com, and 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.559 he recently wrote the following about the Bengals after they 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:52.120 drafted Joe Burrow. 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My first 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.200 conversation is with a Bengals newcomer, safety Von Bell, who 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.960 signed a three year, eighteen million dollars deal with the 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.000 Bengals after spending the last four years with the New 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.679 Orleans Saints. Vaughan was a second round draft pick back 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.720 in twenty sixteen after a great career at Ohio State, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.079 where he was one of Urban Meyer's most highly touted recruits. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.760 I caught up with a twenty five year old former 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.079 Buckeye this week. Von Did you enjoy the free agency 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.280 process or was it stressful? It's a little bit of both, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.840 but I could say it's a pleasing to be in it, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.120 and man, really just being optimistic and really just find 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.640 that shit to you and your family and really just 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.919 beginning new chapter and I'm excited about it. And a 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.359 guy has a plan and as you got trusted. Were 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.359 the Bengals on your radar from the beginning it was 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.720 off and how much money or anything was going to 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.800 go on the situation they play out, so everybody and 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.359 everything worked out. I supposed to work out. So I'm 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.680 just glad to go on Bengal. You're one of eight 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.280 unrestricted free agents that the team signed. They spent more 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.400 than one hundred and thirty million. Is there a message there? 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.200 They want to win? And without kays Cala, guys have 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.040 been in programs and football clubs and have been successful 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.760 and just getting great character guys and leadership and just 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.160 combined what they are have. You know, they have great 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.480 talent there already and um and just combined us and 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.240 they just want to win. They says nothing enough. The 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.360 whole plan was wasn't working, so we gotta try something new. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.360 So and everything's gonna work out. I supposed to work out. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.640 We are visiting with von Bell. For those who don't know, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.960 you were an All American at Ohio State and a 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.680 key member of the twenty fourteen national championship team. Does 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.920 it feel right to be coming back to Ohio where 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.880 you had so much success. It so they're gonna come 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.880 back home. Like I said, guy opened and closed doors. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.240 And now I'm back home in Ohio and I'm ready 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.640 to have much success that I did in college and 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.840 now I can't wait. So after Ohio State, you started 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.640 fifty games for the Saints, including five playoff games. What 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.400 were the highlights of your times a time in New Orleans? Man, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:24.080 It's it's countless times, um man. I feel like in practice, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.719 you know, just me growing as a young player in 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.520 this league is being behind older guys and just really 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.840 just soaking up the knowledge, like from Drew Brees and 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.400 the other guys in a locker room that are veterans. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.240 I feel like that was really highlight my career instead 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.440 of just playing on the field, because you do so 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.880 much off the field to prepare yourselcialty ready as full 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.840 capacities for Sunday and Monday nights and Thursday night games. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.440 And it's like, man, it's like I feel like those 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.640 my highlights in locker room because we gotta had good, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.719 high character guys and just had more success on the 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.520 field because you want to play harder for your brothers. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.320 So that's what I will tell you. We're chatting with 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.240 von Bell. The Bengal have had some heartbreaking playoff losses 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.680 in their history, including a couple of Super Bowls, and 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.000 as a member of the Saints over the last three years, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.840 the team lost in the playoffs on the final play 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.919 of the game. They were all punches to the gut. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.800 Can you describe how difficult that was to be in 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.800 uniform for those games? This, man, it's very difficult. It 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.480 just felt like we can never give it at home 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.200 and man, like the first time with the pr called 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.080 we'll play against the Rams and the Minnesota miracle and 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.080 Minnesota again. It's like, man, it's like I felt like 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.640 we can never give that hume. But you know, we 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.040 just had we had that team where it was always hungry. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.440 We always want to prove more, and we wanted to 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.240 establish I said, we wanted to say we're not done yet. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.120 We was hungry. We pushed each other iron shoppers iron. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.120 We just had all these competitive excellence or deals with 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.960 it in the locker room. It didn't have to worry 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.280 about what the coaches said because the guys wanted in 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.200 locker room, and that's the biggest thing and my whole 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.640 coach always told me this player as the coach led, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.320 I fed league and um and it's from by the players, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.160 and that's what I really believe in. I feel that 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.440 we had a great group of guys coming into the 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.080 locker room, a cininry, a scant way to get it. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.839 The website Pro Football Focus great at you as the 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.400 NFL's top run stopping safety last year. Do you take 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.400 that as a compliment or do you feel like it 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.960 ignores your coverage ability? It didn't knows my coach. I 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.920 feel like I'm safety. I had all the tencibles to 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.760 the game. I feel like I plase safety, m playing 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.920 in the box, playing in BANKI making plays on the ball. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.600 There's always being around the ball, and it's just I 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.120 just loving the games. So I feel like I'm like, man, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.720 I'm more than just a quote unquote box safety. I 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.279 feel like I could do all the things that safety 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.440 pranks of the league. I spoke to Luke Fickle, who's 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.960 now the head coach at the University of Cincinnati and 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.240 obviously was with you at Ohio State as defensive coordinator. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.000 The first thing he mentioned was your leadership ability right 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.760 from day one at Ohio State. He said, yeah, man, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.560 I'm one of the alpha dogs and just that successful 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.520 all my career, even to a high school, going to 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.040 college in the NFL. It's just always just been a 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.160 pedigree to me. And I always want my older brother. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.200 I always played up. I never played in my age movie. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.920 He always told me to play with him who were 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.920 playing basketball or any sport, and he said, when you 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.080 get to your agh movie, to go dominated because everything 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.320 will come easy to you. And that's that's not always 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.120 been with My mother and dad were the structure we 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.800 had at home and just really to just showing me 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.880 how to be the man I am today. And that's 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.320 what I just brought. That structure and that leadership structs 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.520 and is always just being the alpha dog. So I 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.680 think them Vanu led the NFL with five fumble recoveries 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.360 last year and had another one in the playoffs. How 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.000 much of that is right place, right time and how 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.280 much is a nose for the ball. I think it's both. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.240 We always like party at the ball. You never know 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.080 what can happen. You know, you might get tips, no 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.440 those you might get you know what I'm saying, Scooper, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.640 score guys, just running to the ball and just really 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.680 just see eleven hands of the ball, just always just 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.600 being around it and uh and players gonna happen when 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.600 you do that. Your final year as a Buck guy 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.600 was Joe Burrows first, and now you're going to be 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.560 teammates again in Cincinnati. He didn't play back then, but 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.480 you obviously competed against him at practice. What stood out, Oh, man, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.280 his his warrior mentality. Um, you know him and Stephen 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.000 Carter was on the two youngest quarterbacks at the time, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.520 and they always want to look squad and they had 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.320 the two youngest quarterbacks always live against the defiance, so 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.000 you could hit him right. I was to this guy 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.680 taking shots from everybody, and I'm like, man, this dude 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.680 he just never had that quitting and he always had 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.480 a knack of talent. He had that confidence, he had 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.000 that swagger, and um, that's why I really knew that 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.120 he get a chance he could be a special player. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.199 Were you responsible for some of those hits at practice? 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.920 Sometimes I was sometimes, you know, Joey getting there a 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:10.920 couple of guys. It's a couple of guys, but you know, hey, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.160 you know he always he always had that confidence. He 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.440 never backed down. He loves competition and man, that's what 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.720 made it successful on his journey. And I'm very proud 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.800 of him. And uh, you know that's what I know 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.880 a kind of man and what type of football Cali 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.199 player he is because he's been he's been entrenched with 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.440 me at Oil State, and he's been in the weight room. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.720 You've been through the Matt Rill, so I know the 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.240 type of guy he is. Vane, I understand. The last November, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.079 the Saints had a Thursday night game, meaning you had 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.760 the following weekend off, and you chose to drive to 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:49.760 Baton Rouge to watch Joe Burrow at LSU. Describe that experience. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.079 That's my first LSU game. Oh, that's playing Texas and 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.640 him the year before that. That was when he went 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.920 in a Crazy Old Times the year before that. So 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.480 it was a big hype game. I said, man, let 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.840 me um, let me go. Try to go to LSU 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.280 and do my first game. Get the tiger Land experience 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.640 and just being out there in the atmosphere and it 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.120 was electric. Was seeing height. I didn't really want to 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.760 miss him for the game out was there and it 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.440 was a big moment for him, you know, through all 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.440 the adversity, you know, through the quarterback bows. Now he's 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.520 on top. You know, he was in hot and the race, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.959 chance to compete the national championship is like, man, what 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.720 a time. I was glad to be there in the 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.880 moment and uh, just living in the moment. And that's 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.360 what I did. I really enjoyed it. That was the 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.719 game where he came out with b U R R 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.560 E A U X on the back of his jersey. Correct, yes, sir, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:51.560 they did. Yes, Louisiana did it home Vane. Describe your 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.679 routine these days, since it could be a while before 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.920 NFL teams can get together. Man, my routine right now, Man, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.439 Monday day, I wake up at four am every day, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.400 work out with a coup of guys and work out 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:12.200 around five, and then we have our means our virtual meetings. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.559 Then on Friday, I do my balancing, core and stability 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.680 work out. And I still like after the days other 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.839 Monday and Thursday, I still like get a twelve mile 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.920 bike riding or fourteen and buries on some days. And 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.520 it's really just staying to it, just cooking my breakfast, 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.000 cooking my meals, and just staying on top of other 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.440 reading books. Really staying in the process, watching film and 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.040 just really just being around the game and just stoking 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.079 up the knowledge from the game and really just going 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.160 back and just really trying to you know, the self 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.280 critical yourself and insteadying other guys around the league. I 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.280 still take still communicate with guys around the league and 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.319 really talk about and just really talk about life, spending 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.480 time with families. So that's where getting up at four, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:08.120 working out at five, that's Kobe Bryant MoMA mentality stuff. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.000 It is it is, and I feel like that's the 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.440 only way to success. I'm getting up before everyone and 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.000 getting your work in. It's like you're ahead of everybody already. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.719 And I always want to tell the stars just that 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.840 competitive nature and it's that momentality and um so it's 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.120 always just striving for greatness and just really just chasing 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.800 greatness and affection. Fine, how challenging is it to try 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.800 to learn the Bengals defense through zoom meetings? I was 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.080 pretty challenging, But you know, I'm a very heady any play, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:48.080 I'm brady smart. There's just really determinology and some of 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.040 the system somatic things they do. But I'm gonna get it. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.920 I'll come along very well with it. Just when we 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.119 get when we be able to get in the facility 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.880 and do the walk throughs, and I could really see 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.319 things move and make the same you know, the adjustments 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.760 with their terminology and everything. It's gonna be smooth, it's 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.280 gonna be better and uh everything we'll start clicking on 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.280 all cylinders. You have some former Buckeye teammates, not only 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.240 Joe Burrow, but Sam Hubbard, Billy Price and others on 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.440 this roster. Does that add to your comfort level and 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.760 joining a new team for sure? Um, you know, we 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.400 always know, but the brotherhood is always unbroken. We know 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.680 what type of caliber guys they are, and it's like family. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.080 And before you go and um yes, uh, you know, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.760 I'm a very outgoing person, So I don't think it's 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.480 rich you are to make a friend of me. Um, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.680 this always is open a year, um shot, you know, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.640 and just want to be that guy that you just 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.600 come to and talk to, be he's talking to and 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.320 but yeah, it's always helping. You got a couple of 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.400 Buckeyes on the team or not, You're obviously one of 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.439 the big acquisitions of the off season by the Bengals. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.079 Cincinnati is thrilled to have you. We welcome you back 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.160 to the state of Ohio and look forward to seeing 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.120 you in person when that's possible. Yes, sir, thank you 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.240 so much. I'm glad to be back to the world. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.760 Bron is expected to start at safety next to Jesse 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.760 Bates and is one of five free agents who could 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.840 start on defense, along with DJ Reader, Trey Waynes, Mackenzie 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.320 Alexander and Josh Bines. Before we get to the next conversation, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.640 here's a quick reminder that you can take your Bengals 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.120 prior to the next level in twenty twenty with an 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.840 official Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. My next guest 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.160 is a national radio host who is among the best 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.800 in the business at combining strong opinions with a great 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.160 sense of humor. We are joined by one of my 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.280 favorite people to listen to and watch, and not only 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.480 because he is a proud graduate of Syracuse University. He 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.320 is the host of Shandon Sports every weekday from ten 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.240 to one on Sirius XM radio and the host of 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:04.440 multiple NFL TV show was on CBS Sportsnet. Adam Shine, Adam, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.480 I am such a big fan of your work and 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.600 we've communicated by email in the past, but this is 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.640 the first time we have spoken to each other, and 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.400 I appreciate you coming on the Bengals Booth podcast absolutely, Dan. Likewise, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.400 I'm a huge fan of yours, as you know, and listen, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.760 we go back in terms of the same same connection 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.320 to wae ER and to Syracuse, and you know, you're 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.560 the guys that I looked up to with Mike Tarico 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.200 and I An Eagle and Sean McDonough that that great 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.560 era of broadcasters at at wae R. So seriously, thank 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.800 you for paving the way for people like me. Well, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.240 thank you for including me in that line up. I'm 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.680 not sure that I'm worthy, but I appreciate it anyway. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.920 I have been eager to have you as a guest 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.200 on this podcast because between your Twitter feed, your radio show, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.040 and your column on NFL dot Com, you have been 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:03.000 expressing a lot of optimism about the Bengals recently. Explain why, Well, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.400 I really like what the Bengals are doing, you know, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.400 and I think it's important Dan, to actually go back 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.920 to my opinion when Zach Taylor was hired, you know, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.040 I I thought it was an inspiring choice, you know, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.360 last year was not a good season, right as Bill 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.000 Parcels once said, you are, which the record says, and 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.880 there were a lot of reasons why. But I I 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.680 don't look at the head coach and you know put 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.920 that on him. There were injuries that were circumstance, and 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:30.960 you know, I'd a lot of people in the NFL 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.080 tell me that that Zach Taylor was on their list, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.360 a lot of executives to be a head coach. I 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.040 thought the Bengals slammed that out of the park, and 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.040 then I thought they had a really strong draft with 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.480 Jonah Williams that he got hurt, didn't play it down. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.960 And then I thought that, you know a j Greene, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.280 who I've always argued as a Hall of Famer, you know, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.920 I would have another great season. He got hurt, didn't 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.880 play it down. And then you get the number one pick, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.680 and you know, Joe Burrow to me, has hits and 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.080 I just love watching him at LSU. You know, I 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.320 think he has all the tangibles, all the intangibles in 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.480 terms of a true franchise quarterback, and I think he's 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.720 going to inspire his teammates, inspire the coaching staff, inspire 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.440 the great Cincinnati Bengals fans, and you know, I can't 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.680 wait to see him work. And you know, AJ's coming back, 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.840 which I think is fantastic. And I was waiting for 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.280 you some kind of comment from AJ on that, and listen, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.960 I never thought AJ was gonna wear a Bengals uniform again. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.399 It turns out I was wrong. And I'm thrilled for 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.240 Cincinnati that I was. And I thought he was ready 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.400 to move on after a great chapter and I'm thrilled 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.119 he's coming back. I think Joe Mixon is on the 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.719 shortlist in terms of best running backs in the league. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.960 I loved how the Bengals not only drafted Borrow supported 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.119 him in round two with T Higgins, I thought T 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.560 Higgins was a first round pick, and I think that 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.880 sometimes organizations fail when they draft the first round quarterback. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.840 Don't give him the proper offensive line, don't give him 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.240 the proper weapons. You you want to make sure he's 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.720 in a position to be successful. Look last year after 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.680 the draft, and that's why I go back to last year. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.399 I thought the Bengals could win seven games, you know, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.439 win games where they were underdogs, win games you'd expect 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.440 them to win. That's my field for Cincinnati this year. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.800 I thought the Bengals spent money wisely in the off season. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.080 You know, they did a really good job improving the defense, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.840 the defensive line, the defensive backfield, and then you add 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.600 in these pieces via the draft, and Burrows one of 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.200 those guys, even as a rookie, I think, lifts everyone up. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.200 I really think the Bengals been a surprise of people, 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.360 and there's great hope and enthusiasm for the future. Our 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.679 guest is Adam Shy, the host of shan On Sports 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.720 on Sirius XM radio. When you host a three hour 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.919 national radio show, you have to have strong opinions, and 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.159 you are not shy in stating the Bengals would not 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.480 win a Super Bowl with Marvin Lewis as the head 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.000 coach and Andy Dalton as the starting quarterback. You're right, 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:05.160 And I didn't say that necessarily with joyous julation, but 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.359 I you know, and I was right on that. You know, 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.840 it's funny. I always think, Dan, there's perspective, right. They 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.240 won a lot of games, and they deserve I think 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.200 a lot of credit for winning a lot of games. 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.959 It's not easy to win in the NFL, and I 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.840 hope that that Bengals fans actually look back on it 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.600 all very fondly. You know, I thought Andy was a 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.280 really good quarterback who had some great seasons for since 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.960 he you know, the primetime numbers, the playoff numbers. I mean, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.640 that's that's where I think he falls short of true 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.479 quote unquote greatness. Pretty had a really great run in 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.639 terms of being, you know, a great guy in the 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.399 community and a rock solid quarterback for a long time. 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.440 Marvin epitome of class. I you know, there were there 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.520 were issues in terms of discipline that have been documented, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.080 but it was it was time for a change. And 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.040 you know, I think it's tough to win in the NFL, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.560 and those guys is credit for getting win and win totals. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.879 You know, I remember talking to Carson Palmer at the 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.880 Super Bowl this past year. You know, I will always 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.520 believe that the year that he got hurt with von Olhoffen, 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.520 that Bengal team could have gone to the super Bowl. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.119 That was an amazing just a tremendous, tremendous offense and 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:24.479 opportunistic defense. I thought that team, he totally agreed with me, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.960 could have absolutely gone to the super Bowl. But yeah, 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.000 I've been screaming that for years. In terms of our guys, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.240 Marvin Anvy, we are speaking to Adam Shine a great 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:39.399 Twitter follow at Adam Shine Schei n Way back in 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:44.400 mid January, you tweeted Joe Burrow will save the Bengals. 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.760 So that was obviously well before the NFL draft, and 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.240 I assume based on watching the semi final performance against 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.680 Oklahoma and the National Championship game against Clemson, you knew 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.560 at that point this is the guy Cincinnati had to draft. Absolutely, 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.480 And you know, there was some conversation at the Super 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:06.080 Bowl about justin Herbert, you know, and I happen to 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.120 think there's going to be a big time quarterback, and 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.120 you know, the Bengal is obviously there for the Senior Bowl. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.320 But Burrow, to me is just he's special. And you know, 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.120 I think with other quarterbacks and even Tuah and Herbert, 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.440 there was always there's upside downside, right, there's risk reward. 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.040 I don't see downside with Burrow. I think you can 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.879 you can debate or go into the crystal ball when 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.719 it comes to great this, but I think he's going 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.199 to be a very good to great quarterback for a 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.160 long period of time. And Dan I just thought, well, 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.000 he did at LSU. I mean, you don't want you 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.040 want to make sure you're not a prisoner at the moment, 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.639 right And you know, there have been some amazing seasons 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.480 in the history of college football, but all things considered, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.960 I think you could have a solid argument that what 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.520 he did this past year and la Asu greatest season 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.720 ever behind a quarterback in the history of college football, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.680 and it's going to carry over, in my opinion, to Cincinnati. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:10.520 You are fired up about Burrow versus Baker Mayfield in Wait, 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.520 I can't wait for that game. I you know, I 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.439 was pleased at the NFL put that one in primetime. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.080 I you know, I put that on my list on 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.399 my shyne I of the ones that I'm looking forward 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:26.280 to the most. I am really fired up because, you know, 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.400