1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calah Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: cal a Vermont man nearly became the new smallmouth bass 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: record holder last month after landing a seven pounds six 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: ounce lunker, which would have been a full ten ounces 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: heavier than the previous state record. The problem was Andrew 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Ostringer ate the fish before he had a chance to 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: have it officially weighed. He told Meat Eaters Kooby Brown 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: that he tried to release the fish back into the pond, 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: but it was clearly about to die, so he did 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: the responsible thing, took it home filaid it for dinner. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: He knew it was a giant, which is why he 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: weighed before he cooked it. But it wasn't until after 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: those delicious filays were sitting comfortably in his stomach that 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: he thought to look up the current smallmouth record in Vermont. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Sure enough, he was shot to learn that he could 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: have been the new record holder if not for the 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: grumblings of his stomach. Andrew actually joins a long line 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: of anglers who ate potential record breaking fish, As Koob 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: points out in his article the World Record at Walleye 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: co host Salmon, Northern Pike, and several others were all 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: consumed after being weighed and measured, including the world record 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Largemouth Pass, which was famously eaten for three straight days 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: by the angler's family. This week Oklahoma, the judicial shut 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: her down DC and so much more of it. First, 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about my week, and my 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: week has been great impactful, even because I am basically 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: out living on BLM Land. This is the stuff some 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: in DC are telling everyone is valueless. There's nothing out here. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: It would be better off if we sold it or 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: developed it, put a big old data center out there 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: next to the wind farm and solar array. BLM Land 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: isn't doing anything for us. They'll tell you, well, my 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: bear hunt that I told you about, and I'll you know, 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I'll get to more of that later was on BLM Land. 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: My girlfriend Sam and I just had a great couple 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: of days chasing the most American of animals, the American 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: prong horn antelope or antelo capra americana. There is nothing 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: like it anywhere else on the planet. The theories about 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: how it evolved to be so stinking fast don't really 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: stack up, as the old American cheetah was long since 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: gone before this guy made its debut on North America. 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: It's desert dwelling, tasty as all get out, American misfit 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: which is found on you guessed it, lands managed by 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management more so than private ground populations. 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Nothing against the brown bear, but you can stroll out 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: of Rome, Italy, and probably not all that far from Moscow, Russia, 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and run into a brown bear. But the prong horn 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: is American, as American as the greater sage grouse, another 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: misfit of the planes, charismatic representative of the land we 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: the United States tried given away to anyone who is 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: willing to try to live on it for one hundred years, 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: then ended up with it. It's pure American freedom out here. 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: No ticket chios, no tour guides, just amazing amounts of 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: awesome nothingness. The other night I had thousands of sandhill 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: cranes migrating overhead. I watched mallards and wigeon and teal 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: dump into livestock ponds that have replaced the buffalo wallows 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: that started them. Seen sharp tail grouse and coyotes, even 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: a pair of moose that stuck out like alien beings. 60 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Amongst the sage, we hunters are uniquely suited to speak 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: to the value of these lands. The dinosaur bones, the artifacts, 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: the fossilized sea beds, the migratory bird life, and the 63 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: American pronghorn antelope. We can lose it if we don't 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: start sticking up for it. Confusing as it may be, 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: but the congress National Review Act, the cancelation of Resource 66 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Management plants, the proposed rollback of the roadless Rule, the 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: proposed rollback of the Public Lands Rule. All of this 68 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: stuff stacks up, and we may be sitting here thinking 69 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: of how fortunate we are to be able to recreate 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: and spend quality time on these places as they're being 71 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: chunked up on the auction block because they have no value. 72 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: It's odd that some of these folks in DC, like 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Mike Lee, for instance, want valueless land so badly. Moving 74 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: on to the Sooner State Desk over in Oklahoma, there's 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: a fight simmering between the state of Oklahoma and the 76 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: five tribes whose reservation lands cover the eastern part of 77 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: the state. On October eighth, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Conservation issued a statement saying that game wardens would be 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: enforcing hunting and fishing regulations on anyone in the state, 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: even tribe members on reservation lands. On October ten, the 81 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Intertribal Council responded with their own statement, writing, quote, Tribal 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: law is clear. Each nation has a sovereign right to 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: regulate and manage these natural resources. Importantly, this means no 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: other entity, including the State of Oklahoma, has the right 85 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: to prosecute our members or members of other federally recognized 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: tribes for hunting or fishing on tribal land. There's some 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: serious history to this one. Before Oklahoma became a state 88 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen nint to seven, the lands granted to the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee, 89 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: and Seminole nations or sovereign quote unquote Indian country declared 90 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: by US Congress. Once Oklahoma became a state, it began 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: to enforce state law within those reservations. But in twenty twenty, 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court ruled in McGirt the Oklahoma that 93 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy McGirt, a registered member of the Seminole tribe, would 94 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: not be prosecuted by the State of Oklahoma for crimes 95 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: committed within the Muscogee Nation. This decision re established that 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: the reservations are Indian country and only indigenous judicial cists 97 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: or US federal authorities can prosecute major crimes like robbery 98 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: or murder there. However, a later case established that Oklahoma 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: civil law, like paying taxes, still does apply for tribal 100 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: members within Indian country. That's the precedent the state sites 101 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: for acquiring everyone within its borders to buy a hunting 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: and fishing license. The tribes, in turn cite the Oklahoma 103 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Enabling Act, which says that as a coalition of becoming 104 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: a state way back in nineteen oh seven, Oklahoma had 105 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: to seed authority over Indian Country, which should include collecting 106 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: license fees. When I said there's a lot of history here, 107 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: I meant to add yet another twist. Oklahoma Governor Kevin 108 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: Stitt and the Five Tribes have several ongoing feuds over 109 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: gambling revenue and other sovereignty issues. In twenty twenty one, 110 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Stitt declined to renew existing compacts that let the five 111 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: tribes purchase hunting and fishing licenses in bulk at a 112 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: discounted price, which allowed their members to hunt on and 113 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: off reservation in Oklahoma Stitt, who is himself a Cherokee 114 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Nation citizen, justified canceling those compacts by saying all Oklahomas 115 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: should pay the same license fees, but the state will 116 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: continue to lose out on the revenue from those compacts. 117 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: If a court finds that, in fact, indigenous hunters don't 118 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: have to buy state licenses when hunting on tribal lands, 119 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: there's sure to be a lot more fighting on this one. 120 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Balancing native sovereignty, paying for conservation, and protecting wildlife from 121 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: bad actors. Adds some turf wars and personal vendettas in there, 122 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's all a real mind bender. But this is 123 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: far from my neck of the woods. So if you 124 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: got a point of view here right in to askca 125 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: l at the meeater dot com or call four h 126 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: six two two zero six four four one and let 127 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: me know what you think. Moving over to the judicial desk, 128 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: which has been busy lately. First up, the Supreme Court 129 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: officially declined to hear the case of Iron Bar Holdings Llc. 130 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Versus Cape at All more familiar to you and me 131 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: as the Wyoming Corner Crossing case. The Court gave no 132 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: reasoning behind the decision. It was just on a list 133 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: of denied cases that the Court had been petitioned to 134 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: take up. The very very good news is that this 135 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: particular case is officially over, and the four Missouri hunters 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: who passed through the airspace over Pharma exec Fred Eshlman's 137 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: property to go from one piece of public land to 138 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: another are officially off the hook. The other piece of 139 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: good news is that corner crossing is as it always 140 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: has been, legal in Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, 141 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and Utah, the states in the jurisdiction of the Tenth 142 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals. The lower court which ruled in 143 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: the corner Crossers favored this past March. The less good 144 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: news is that corner crossing remains in a legal gray 145 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: area and the rest of the US, including my home 146 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: state of Montana, and there's no guarantee that the Supreme 147 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Court wouldn't hear a different case from Nevada or Idaho 148 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: at some point in the future and rule against corner crossing. 149 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: Then maybe they were just too busy this time around. 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Out However, legal precedent is set. Corner crossing is legal 151 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: according to the near highest state in the land. The 152 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: only way to really breathe a sigh of relief on 153 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: this issue is for the legislative branch to pass a 154 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: law explicitly affirming the right to corner cross, which they 155 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: basically have if you guys remember the Unlawful Enclosures Act. 156 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: But there's also state level politics to think about, so 157 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: start lobbying your state lawmakers right now. This decision by 158 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court gives a green light to public lands 159 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: groups who might help draft those laws, So we'll be 160 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: sure to bring those efforts to your attention to get 161 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: behind if and when they start appearing. But before we 162 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: rushed to the future too fast, let's bask in a 163 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: little public lands good news for a second. Huge thanks 164 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: to all you groups who came to the defense of 165 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the Missouri IV, especially Wyoming BHA, and all of you 166 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: who contributed to their legal defense. With all the other 167 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: garbage we're trying to fend off week after week, it's 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: nice to get a big w on the board. Moving 169 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: over to New Jersey, a few weeks ago we let 170 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: you know that the state's bear hunt had survived one 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: lawsuit filed by State Senator Ray Lesniak, while last week 172 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the hunt survived the other pending lawsuit, this one filed 173 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: by a group calling itself the New Jersey black Bear 174 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Animal Protection League. This was a real kitchen sink style attack, 175 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: and the ruling by the Appellate Division of the State 176 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Superior Court went point by point in refuting the suit. 177 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: The Animal Protection League had cherry picked a black bear 178 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: population count from a truncated late season study in twenty 179 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: twenty two, had wrongly claimed that the management plan gave 180 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: no end point for the hunt, claimed that a minor 181 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: change to the plan that eliminated a summary paragraph had 182 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: changed key provisions, and so on a real grasping at 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: straws type effort. This decision comes just as the first 184 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: segment of the twenty twenty five New Jersey bear hunt 185 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: wrapped up on October eighteen. From the thirteenth to the eighteenth, 186 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: hunters were able to go after bears with a bow, 187 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: and from the sixteenth to the eighteenth muzzleloaders were also allowed. 188 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Hunters killed three hundred and sixty seven bears, ten percent 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: fewer than were taken in last year's October hunt. That 190 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: gets the state to fifteen point seven percent of its 191 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: estimated bear population, and the management plan calls for twenty 192 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: percent of the bear's population to be harvested each year 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: to keep numbers manageable. Segment B of the season runs 194 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: from December eighth to the thirteenth, and his shotgun and 195 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: muzzleloader only. If the state doesn't get to the twenty 196 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: percent threshold at the end of Segment B, a third 197 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: period will be added from the seventeenth to the twentieth, 198 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: and if the take gets to thirty percent at any point, 199 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: the hunt ends twenty four hours after the end of 200 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: hunting light on the day the end of the hunt 201 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: is announced. All these rules exist after the hard experience 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: of previous year's hunts going over quota and making for 203 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: bad public relations. Anyway, congratulations to all you Garden State 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: hunters out there who got your bear. Enjoy those hams, 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: and maybe head over to the Meat eater dot com 206 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: and find Clay Newcomb's tutorial on rendering bear fat into 207 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: bear oil, A real delicacy and once upon a time, 208 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: a staple of life in America. Also consider the bear 209 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: meat version of venison diplomacy. We give the antis a 210 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: hard time with the spurious lawsuits they file and so on, 211 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: but in their minds they are motivated by love for 212 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: bears and the desire to protect them, And because bear 213 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: hunts are often justified by pointing to nuisance bears and 214 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: bear human conflict, it makes it seem like hunters are 215 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: the adversaries of the bear instead of the ones conserving 216 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: their habitat, paying for their population studies, telling stories about 217 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: them until late at night, and so on. So if 218 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: there's someone in your life who might be on the 219 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: fence about the bear hunt out there, invite them over. 220 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: And as I like to call black bears the roast 221 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: beef of the woods, you can use any roast beef recipe, 222 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: including all those pot roast recipes from the Joy of Cooking. 223 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: The Italian pot roast is a real winner. Make yourself 224 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: some homemade French bread. You'll be knocking some socks off. 225 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Gang shifting over the executive branches of this riding. On 226 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: October twenty one, we are now three weeks into the 227 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: government shutdown. We're seeing the consequences for the out of doors. 228 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Over in Yosemite National Park staff has been furloughed and 229 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: so there's no one around to enforce park regulations. As result, 230 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: squatters have been filling up campgrounds, climbers are using cables 231 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: to climb half Dome without paying for permits, and base 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: jumpers have illegally leapt off the three thousand foot granite 233 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: face of l Cap. Listen. If I were a base jumper, 234 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: no doubt I would be tempted to do the same. 235 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: But it's not hard to imagine a rough ending to 236 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: that story. On a more mundane level, visitors centers are closed, 237 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: trash is overflowing and the wildlife is eating it. The 238 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: bathrooms are filthy. All the small ways that allow people 239 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: to access the land they own are breaking down, and 240 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: small problems quickly become big problems on all kinds of 241 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: public lands, park's wilderness areas, BLM, you name it. If 242 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: part of a trail washes out during a rainstorm with 243 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: no one there to repair it, it quickly spreads and 244 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: can soon take years to fully correct. Habitat maintenance that 245 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: you can only do before snowfall gets delayed by a 246 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: full year and risks permanent damage. Still, the Trump administration 247 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: has instructed US Fish and Wildlife staff to continue to 248 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: allow hunting in the nation's five hundred and eighty eight 249 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: national wildlife refuges. Of course, I'm all for every opportunity 250 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: possible for people to get out and hunt in the fall. 251 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: But as you know, hunting is a responsibility game, so 252 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,479 Speaker 1: you better be taking care of those bathrooms, public blinds, 253 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: packing out your own trash kids. Moving on to the 254 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: crime desk, it's been a few weeks since we hit 255 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: the crime beat, but I'm sorry to say that's not 256 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: due to a change of heart among our nation's poachers. 257 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: As of this recording, game wardens in Colorado and Idaho 258 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: are asking for the public's help apprehending the people responsible 259 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: for poaching elk and moose in Colorado. Hooror Bowl elk 260 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: reproached in Los Animus County back in September. The animals 261 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: were illegally shot on September thirteenth, twenty sixth, and twenty 262 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: seventh near the communities of Stonewall and picket Wire, Colorado. 263 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials say one of the four 264 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: balls was shot an abandoned hole, one was wounded and 265 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: had to be put down, one was shot with the 266 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: backstraps removed, and one had its head removed with no 267 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: meat taken. There is one thousand dollars reward for anyone 268 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: who sends in a tip that leads to an arrest, 269 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: So if you know anything about these incidents, give CPW 270 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a call up. In Idaho, the Department of Fishing Game 271 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: is seeking information about four moose that were illegally killed 272 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: in the Elk River and Clarkia areas. Officials believe the 273 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: moose were killed on Potlatch Deltic corporate timber lands between 274 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: October three and five. Moose are considered a trophy animal 275 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: in Idaho, and successful hunters are only allowed one tag 276 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: their entire lives. Poaching a moose takes away a potential 277 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: tag from a legal hunter, a tag that someone may 278 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: have waited decades to draw. Anyone with information on these 279 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: incidents is encouraged to call the Citizens Against Poaching hotline 280 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: at one eight hundred sixty three two five nine nine nine. 281 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: At Tennessee man was recently convicted for illegally killing a 282 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: deer in Kansas and then tagging it in Missouri. This 283 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: tri state wildlife criminal has pled guilty to his crimes 284 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: and been ordered to pay more than nine thousand dollars 285 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: in fines, restitution, and court costs. The exact circumstances of 286 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: the crime are still a little unclear. I assume he 287 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: was near the Missouri Kansas border and he had a 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: tag for Missouri. But when the opportunity presented itself to 289 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: take down one of those Kansas giants we hear so 290 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: much about, he just couldn't help himself. Shot the deer, 291 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: moved it back across the border to Missouri, and tried 292 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: to have his venison and need it too. I don't 293 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: know for sure what's happening, but that seems plausible. Game 294 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Warden's heard about the incident while investigating an unrelated case, 295 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: but they were able to pin him for the caper 296 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: after getting access to his phone. They confiscated the deer 297 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: in Nashville in the summer of twothy twenty four, at 298 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: which point the man confessed to his crime. Speaking of 299 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: successful investigations, Montana game Wardens recently charged three Big Horn 300 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: County men with ten felonies and twenty three misdemeanors for 301 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: poaching eight bull elk and one mule deer buck between 302 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. Case began when 303 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: wardens received a tip about a headless bull elk in 304 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: an area that was closed to hunting. After an extensive investigation, 305 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: wardens found that the group allegedly killed and possessed the 306 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: elk in Hunting District seven oh two during a closed 307 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: season without landowner permission. The group also allegedly killed one 308 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: mule deer buck without hunting licenses and without landowner permission. 309 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: The individuals have not been named and their case is 310 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: still ongoing. Last one for you this one from the 311 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Great State of Rhode Island, where two hunters were charged 312 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: with wildlife crimes after a year long investigation. Game wardens 313 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: first learned of one hunter after stumbling upon a tree 314 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: stand and game camera beside a large pile of corn 315 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: in the woods. Further investigation proved that the man was 316 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: illegally hunting over bait, and he'd also illegally killed the deer. 317 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: In Gloucester, game wardens searched his phone as part of 318 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: their investigation, which led them to the second hunter. Whatever 319 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: they found on the first hunter's phone resulted in a 320 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: charge for his body of hunting without a license or tag. 321 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: That second hunter's muzzleoder, and cell phone were seized, and 322 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: the illegally taken deer was confiscated for educational use. The 323 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: first hunter lost his hunting privileges for a year, had 324 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: his gear seized and must pay a thousand dollars fine. 325 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Just goes to show you, kids, your mom was right 326 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: when she said not to fall in with the wrong crowd. 327 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Not only will they lead you to a life of poaching, 328 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: they also might keep evidence on their phone that will 329 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: send you to the clink. You've been warned. Moving on 330 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: to the legislative desk, lawmakers in Utah are debating whether 331 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: to force hikers and bird watchers to purchase hunting licenses 332 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: to access state owned land. You may remember that earlier 333 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: this year there was a big kerfluffal when a new 334 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: law went into effect that did exactly that. But when 335 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: a hiker was given a citation for not having a 336 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: hunting license in a popular wildlife management area, the general 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: public pretty much lost it. Utah officials backtracked on that 338 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: requirement and promised to revisit the issue this legislative session. Well, 339 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: now that the session has started, they're debating exactly what 340 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: to do. One proposal would keep the hunting license requirement 341 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: in place, but allow Utahns to access a free license 342 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: in exchange for volunteer work or taking educational classes about 343 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: public land. The other proposal would simply remove the requirement 344 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: and return to the previous system. Both proposals are being 345 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: pushed right now in the legislature, So if you have 346 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: an opinion, get on the horn with your duly elected 347 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: and let them know what you think. Moving on to 348 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: the voicemail desk. This week, I got a call from 349 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: a fellow named Jason McCall about some trouble with animal 350 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: rights activists in his neck of the woods. 351 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: A buddy of mine and I run a trap line 352 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: through state land in southeast Michigan. One day he met 353 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: a person out on the line that was somebody that 354 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: founded a rehab or a like a wildlife rescue. They said, hey, 355 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: we got to call about this raccoon. We work with 356 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: the DNR, so if there's unmarked traps, we deal with that, 357 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: YadA YadA. He's like, don't touch my traps. I'm completely legal. 358 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 2: You know, this is none of your concern. So they 359 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: offered to buy the release of a couple of raccoons, 360 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: which he did it admittedly, which is not necessarily legal 361 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: here in Michigan. There's no there's no live market, and 362 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: she did transport him, so that's besides the point. DNR 363 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: already is on his butt about that. But we got 364 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: a hold of the conservation officers in the sheriffs of 365 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: our area and there is an ongoing investigation. So if 366 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: our forty five traps have come up missing, we believe 367 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: it is the rehab the wildlife rescue, and they are 368 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: urging people to get a hold of city council to 369 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: try and ban trapping in this area. So me making 370 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: my livelihood, like my whole career is trapping. I do 371 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: it every day all year. I love hunting, trapping, fishing, 372 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I'm wondering what I can do 373 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: to get ahead of them, and I've already made a 374 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: video and posted it on Facebook kind of trying to 375 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: get the attention of hunters and stuff, and so far 376 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: I'm getting some people, But beyond calling city council and 377 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: say hey, we don't want trapping banned, is there anything 378 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: else that I can do? I know I can, there's 379 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: probably some people I can call. I just don't really know. 380 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you guys' help. If you could 381 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: give me some guidance, I appreciate it. 382 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Jason. Good news is that you're 383 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: doing exactly what you should be calling public attention to 384 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: this problem and letting your elected officials know how you feel. 385 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: The bad news is that there's no magic bullet to 386 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: defeat this effort by the animal rights crowd. If the 387 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: city council is the body responsible for making this decision, 388 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: they're the ones you need to convince. But that's totally doable. 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: Usually only a handful of people show up to a 390 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: city council meeting. If you can gather fifty hundreds and 391 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: trappers to attend the meeting when they discuss this issue, 392 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: you can send a powerful message that if the council 393 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: members don't make the wrong decision, they'll face consequences in 394 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: the next election. It doesn't take that many people to 395 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: sway local and state officials, so that's where I would 396 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: be focusing my time in the weeks and months ahead. 397 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: If you're not a member of Hook and Bullet groups 398 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: local or national, you don't have to be, but you 399 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: know we'd love you at BHA. Get a hold of 400 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: those groups and see if they have the bandwidth to 401 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: help rally some folks to show up to those meetings. 402 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Should be just a quick email on the old email list. 403 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: It's an important thing to do at a minimum. Your 404 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: city council needs to be asked why law enforcement isn't 405 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: doing their jobs on this particular case. That's a lot 406 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: of traps gone missing, a lot of cash, your livelihood. 407 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: That's a crime. Keep me posted on this one. Love 408 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: to know how I can help a little bit more. 409 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: That's all I got for you this week. Thank you 410 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: so much for listening. Remember to write into a sk 411 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: C a L that's an ASCAL at the meeteater dot 412 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: com or call me at four oh six two two 413 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: zero six four four one and leave a message. I'd 414 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: love to hear what's going on in your neck of 415 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the woods. Thanks again, I'll talk to you next week.