WEBVTT - Ep 24: Thundercat 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:14.800 Loud and Quiet presents Midnight Chats. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.600 I hope this is a good sign. But I think 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.720 this might be the first episode of Midnight Chats which 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.360 references a previous one that we've done, and I think 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.240 that means that we're building a back catalog, right, which 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.000 we're told by people who know about podcasts is a 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.000 good sign. So we're happy about that. Back in the 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.680 autumn of twenty sixteen, I went to go and meet 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.800 Flying Lotus in an old cinema in London for Midnight Chats, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.879 and we talked mostly about the short film he was 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.080 showing that night, Royal and the feature length one he 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.640 was making at the time Cuso. If you're a regular listener, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.160 you'll recall that we both kind of struggled to describe 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.360 just how dark, disturbing and disgusting what he's made is. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.080 And that night, Flying Lotus had some friends in the house, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.080 lots of people who came out to support him on 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:19.520 his record label, Brain Feeder, including our guest on this episode, Thundercat. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.080 Now in this you'll hear Thundercat talk about Flying Lotus 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.600 as the two Stevens aren't just label mates, they're also 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.759 pretty good friends in day to day life, and maybe 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.959 hopefully once you've listened to this one, you'll want to 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.600 go back and check out that Flying Lotus episode. It 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.600 was number seventeen, and wherever you're listening to this, you 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.680 should be able to go back and scroll through and 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.840 find it. But onto Thundercat and a quick resume for 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.120 those who aren't familiar. I could probably do this in 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.520 one sentence, and that's that. Thundercat is the guy that 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:57.120 every musician who meets him loves. But there is a backstory. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:57.639 Of course. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.640 He's from a very talented musical family. His father was 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.800 a drummer for The Temptations and was also in Diana 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.480 Ross's band, and Stephen picked up the bass at a 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.840 very early age and as anyone who's seen him live 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:16.160 or know, he's basically got this supernatural talent for his instrument. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.799 By the time he was eighteen, he already joined the 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.080 legendary thrash bands Suicidal Tendencies, and it was pretty recognizable 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.080 on stage as the guy who'd wear a helmet and 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.480 shoulder pads, and he quickly became one of the go 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.280 to session musicians in Los Angeles and he still is now. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.120 He played him back and bands for Snoop Dogg and 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.840 Erica Badou. But it wasn't until Flying Lotus signed him 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:44.280 to brain Feeder as Thundercat, named after the cartoon, that 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.919 he started releasing his own albums, and a couple of 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.960 years back, he famously produced Kendrick Lamar's album to Pimper Butterfly. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.440 That was after the pair had got in the studio 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:59.560 together and Thundercat scored Kendrick on some classical jazz and 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.880 the two it off. Now, what I will say is 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.000 that if you're looking for the scoop on what Kendrick's 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.120 next album it's going to sound like, then this isn't 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:09.560 the place. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.639 Instead, we attempted to. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.720 Answer some far more important questions like are cats better 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.520 than dogs? And what does thunder Cat fill his empty 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.400 suitcase with when he goes to Japan? What's the single 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.280 greatest video game ever made? And you can hear his 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.520 eyes practically light up when I mentioned video games in this? 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.600 And how can you possibly begin to describe just how 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.160 gross Flying notices Khuso film actually is And he's a 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.080 clue We don't really, so we cover a lot of 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.840 ground in this. Thundercat released his latest solo album, Drunk 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.600 earlier this year. I recommend as you're listening to this, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.280 check out the artwork for that album if you haven't already. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.400 There's some good stories about that and on the album. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.680 He also has loads of notable guests. Kendricks on it was, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.680 Khalifa and Farral were all on drunk. But maybe the 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.880 most surprising collaboration on it is with Kenny Loggins. And 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.360 if you're thinking that name rings a bell, then yes, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.240 it is the same Kenny Loggins from the Footloost and 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.960 Top Gun film soundtracks. So I met Thundercat a couple 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.919 of weeks ago. It was backstage a venue called Heaven 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.159 in London where he was playing. We sat on a 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.160 couple of springy leather chairs and I really enjoyed our conversation. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:26.680 So this is it. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:57.120 This is Thundercat on episode twenty four of Midnight Chats. Thundercat, 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.680 Welcome to Midnight Chats, our podcast series. It's great to 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.839 have you on. How are you doing today? 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:07.520 I'm all right, man, you know, just landed. I'm not 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.599 too angry, not too tired, definitely got a poop, but 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.560 you can't do that. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.960 We could take a short break if you need. Just 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.280 give me the signal I'll just poop during the interview, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:21.559 just to set the scene for people. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.760 We are. We're in a backstage room at a venue 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.560 called Heaven in London that you're playing tonight. It's kind 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.080 of makeshift. We've got some interesting things going on in here, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:35.560 particularly this piece of artwork which shows Amy Winehouse and Shakespeare, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.160 and I think that's possibly George Michael on the wall 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.440 elsewhere that thrown there. This is quite a famous venue 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.800 in London. That thrown there, I think has been used 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.839 on stage by Lady Gaga and Madonna by all accounts. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.080 Okay, so I must smell. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.000 You've got to take that on stage with you tonight. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.080 Totally take it on stage and just hack it with 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:58.000 the axe. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:00.800 How are you doing anyway? Has things? 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.000 I'm all right, man, just I've been on tour for 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.760 quite some time, just to kind of, you know, in 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.520 and out of lucid insanity. Uh No, I'm just I'm 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.880 just chilling, man. I'm just kind of I don't know 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.360 what to think right now. It's been a long time. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:18.640 It's almost been two months now. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:19.400 Yeah. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.280 Do you miss home when you're out on the road. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.000 Do you just kind of like consume yourself with it? 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.120 Do you just get by? How do you deal with it? 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.880 Yeah? Sometimes I start to miss it. Then I start 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.920 to remember, like, you know, this is what I've done 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.039 my whole life, so I don't really I don't really 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.680 feel weird about it. You know. It's like I've always traveled, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.680 so it's like, you know, every now and again, I 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.080 missed my cat, you know, and I'll miss like the 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.240 sights and smells, but it's very short lived. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:49.360 What's your cat? 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:50.240 Tron? 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.480 Okay, brilliant name for cat. What's he like? 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:53.880 She? 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.800 It's very human, she does. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.240 She kind of sense human things. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.600 Yeah, she's very very humanized. She's like a very had 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.480 a very interesting sensibility, very funny. Doesn't chase lasers, Yeah, yeah, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.040 none of that stuff. She's a little smarter than that. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.400 But she is fun though. She's a lot of fun. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.320 I like dancing with her, like sniffing under her neck. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.200 Those are the things you miss. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.400 I think cats are for me, cats better than dogs, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:31.679 because they are that's official, that's a certified fact. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.240 Right, Yeah. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.160 Yeah, because cats are just they're just a bit more 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.760 noncho than They're not so needy. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.000 Are they. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.840 Yeah, they're they're to themselves and you know, they can 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:42.720 take care of themselves. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:42.920 You know. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.800 I always I always tend to think, like I feel weird, 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.000 like I'm leaving my cat behind. I'm like, if my 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.320 cat was a wild cat, it would like eat once 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.800 a week. Like I just realized that, like cats are 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.920 just a different you know, they're a different breed man. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.160 And who feeds the cat when you're away? 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.080 I have tons of friends that will come over and 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.720 feed Tron. You know, to tell people, no, do you 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.200 want me to go over and check on Tron? And 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.640 it's like, no, don't worry. There's like ten people watching Tron. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.680 But like the cat's getting fed like thirteen times. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.520 Yeah, yeah, come home to find Tron has put on 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:17.280 some serious weight. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.480 Yeah, you know, everybody loves Tron. She's fun. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.320 Talk to me a bit about the live show, because 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.840 is it right that when you guys are performing, you 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.240 don't you and your band never play the same set 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:30.880 list twice. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.800 You kind of just you're a little bit more relaxed 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:34.319 about things. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.560 Oh yeah, you know you try to like change it 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.960 up a lot, you know, you know, challenge each other 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.680 a bit, change change time signatures sometimes, and you know, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 try to try to imply or try to interject in 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:50.680 proversation as much as possible, you know, And yeah, but 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:51.760 I mean, you know, it's like it's one of those 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.640 things where we've been playing together for quite some time, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.080 so it's a bit of comfortable. It feels a bit 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.480 comfortable to do it. You know, just change things up 0:08:58.520 --> 0:08:59.160 all the time. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.200 Do you make this decisions before you go on stage 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.200 or stage? And how have you been enjoying performing the 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.400 material from Drunk? 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.480 It's been fun, it's been intense, you know, like I 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.719 have to sing a lot, you know. That's one thing 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.360 that I'd never anticipated in life. You know, even over 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.200 the last five years of like never gets old. Like 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.520 it's tripping me out to know that I'm singing all 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.240 the time. And I was like, what the hell, man, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.400 you know, but it's just part of it, so I 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.000 just kind of I just go with it. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.160 One of my favorite guests that we've had on the 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.720 podcast in the last few months was Fine I guess 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.360 And we recorded an episode in an old cinema in 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.120 not too far from here, actually a couple of streets away, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:39.880 Regent Street. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.520 It was because Stephen was showing. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:44.040 It. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.319 He was showing away, did you. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.400 I mean, first off, I mean, if people who have 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.200 heard that episode of the podcast heard kind of both 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.480 of us struggling to sort of describe that movie, do. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.160 You want to give it a go? 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:08.640 Oh my god, Yeah, I don't even know. I don't know. Yeah, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.160 that's a difficult one, man. I honestly, you know, kind 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.440 of threw me off there. I don't know how to 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.240 describe that movie. It's just really intense. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.000 He was saying that he's I mean so to feel 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.360 people and you've known each other probably about a decade 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.040 or more, and that he's always wanted to make films 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.720 as well as the Yeah, he's been kind of working 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.440 on So how long have you I mean as sure 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.840 as a kind of sort of close native is have 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.480 you been talking about the ideas and been talking about 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.880 this stuff that's coming to fruition now? But I bet 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.840 it's gone back to conversations for years now. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.640 Right Man. It's mind blowing to see it coming to fruition. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.520 You know, It's like, you know, there were moments where, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.040 of course, you know, I know, you know Lotus's history 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.680 with you know, film and stuff like that, and everything 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.200 from that to him rapping his Captain Murphy was always 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.520 a shock to me. You know, it was kind of 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.480 like a little of a different facet of his character 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.520 that he would never let on, you know, like you 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.880 would never have known, You're like, no way, you know, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:12.720 and to see his first film, it's like it's fantastic. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.600 It honestly is. It's like, you know, we would talk 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.320 every now and again about it, you know, and I 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.200 feel like his uh, he influenced me in that manner 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.760 a bit, because it's like I was a bit of 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.720 a film buff, but not until I met Lotus. That dude. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.520 You know, he knows his film and to a major degree. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.640 It's like if it would affect me to you know, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.800 to to the way I would write music and stuff too. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.480 But at the same time, it's like I would have 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.800 never thought that he would actually, you know, do it. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.319 And you know, the best way to describe it is, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.560 you know, don't underestimate Flying Lotus, you know. Yeah, that's 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.680 all you can That's that's how I can sum it up. Man. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.280 I thought it was funny that when he was trying 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.920 to describe the movie because he had trouble himself because 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:59.400 it is a it's kind of it's dark, it's kind 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.840 of fut of dot humor, but it's also pretty much. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.640 I mean, maybe maybe you've seen similar films, but I 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.240 certainly haven't. It to me, it was something quite different 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.120 and it's pretty gross. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.040 That's putting it very lightly. And he told me that 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.880 his grandmother had been to see it, which I thought 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.080 was just absolutely super. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.679 You got to take the family, You got to let 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.440 them know how crazy you are. Exact you always have 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.520 to ever reminder, like, don't forget I'm crazy. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.800 Yeah, Oh, it's definitely that when you I mean with 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.120 going back, you know, you no notice for a number 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.640 of years. And you mentioned there that until you met him, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.640 he was a he was a guy that could kind 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.240 of score you in movies. You never even heard of 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.960 what's the best recommendation you've ever had from a movie? 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.040 From from Flying Night? 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.400 Oh man, it was the day when he introduced me 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.680 to old Boy. Okay, yeah, he's the one that turned 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.520 me on an old boy, you know, And it was 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.959 just mind blowing. It was funny because it's like it's 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.760 like guys of a certain class, you know. It's like 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.240 he's like, hey, you know, you need to go see 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.320 this movie. And I was like what, you know, I 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.160 was like, all right, sure, you know, and I watched 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:11.800 it and I was like, oh my god. He was 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.080 like right, and I was like yeah, and he was like, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.920 we just need more movies like that, and I was like, yeah, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.640 we need more movies like yeah. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.920 It's about opening for people haven't seen it. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.400 It's a Korean film, it's a it's a it's an 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.480 amazing film, you know, it's a it's a revenge story. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.000 That's I wouldn't want to ruin it for anybody that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.160 hasn't seen it yet. But it's one of those things 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.080 where it the twists are so hard in this movie 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.679 that it just may give you whiplash. Man. It's it's 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:46.240 it's it is intense, man, it's everything. It's violent, it's 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.640 just everything you want to happen in a movie that 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.240 you would be like, oh, that is cringe worthy. It's 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.840 this is that movie, you know, and it's like, it's 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.319 just got this amazing climactic moment in the movie. I 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.920 just will just ruin your life. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.479 That is some recommendation. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.440 Did that kind of like turn you on to going 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.720 and checking out other South Korean movies, like films made 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.200 in that part of the world, that kind of genre 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.520 that was at the start of, you know, a love 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:16.640 affair with that kind of thing. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.760 Well, I was always kind of, you know, into it 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.280 myself to some degree. But you know a lot of 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.920 the time, you know, recommendations are important from your friends, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.680 you know, and it just fed into it more, you know. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.440 I would start going into other places like Poland and 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.920 Serbia and looking for movies there and stuff like that. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.600 It sparked my interest even more of it. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.040 Yeah, and when you're traveling playing music. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.280 Now, I'm sure it's difficult to often find the time, 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.560 but can you if you're visiting Poland playing the show, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.440 or if you're in Tokyo, or if you're in Soul 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.360 or something like that, do you try and kind of 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.720 make a few hours to get out, get to the 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.360 kind of local DVD store. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.400 Oh yeah, that that happened right before this interview. I 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.080 just walked off. I just was like, oh, we're here. Bye. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.480 Pauls like where are you at? Where are you at? 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.120 And I was like, I just walked off. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.960 Man, you know you could have seen something. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.000 Yeah. They're like, you know, you know, life is being 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:15.560 lived and I will live it. Yeah, I always do. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.640 I always do. One thing that sucks THO is when 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.640 you go to different places like that around the world. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.680 You know, all the different DVDs, they don't have the 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:27.680 same region codes, and not everybody likes English, so they 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.360 just don't put that as a subtitle option. So you 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.680 just feel stupid, you know. I've had that happened way 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.560 too many times. I'm like, I'm so excited because I'll 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.880 go find a movie that I've been looking for and 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.360 I find it and bring it home and I have 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.080 I have a multi regional DVD player, but I put 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:42.800 it in the DVD player and then there's no option 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.400 for English at all, and it's just like wow, you know, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.840 it's like these are terrible people. But you know again, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.760 you know, no, I guess nobody's expecting, you know, to 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.360 reach that market or so yeah, you know, but you 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.960 you know again, you know, you just just wait patience, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.440 and it winds up coming around. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.640 Where's absolute kind of nirvana for you? Is it when 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.360 you go in somewhere like Tokyo, Because obviously there's a 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.120 track on drunk that's cool. Tokyo it's an amazing place. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.160 Japan's a fantastic country. When you look at the list 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.480 of all the places you're going to, kind of visit 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.120 this year. When you see Tokyo on there, do you 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.680 sort of get a buzz about being able to go 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:19.400 back to that place. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.320 Yeah, I freaking love Tokyo, man I do. I don't know, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.400 It's just I've been gone there for years and years, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.480 you know, from my youth up until now, and it 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.960 never gets old. I get excited every time, you know, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.480 just the thought of what could be there, or what 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.520 they've been hiding, or what they've been working on, or 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.600 you know, what's new. You know, seeing new faces, and 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.000 you know, it changes every time you go. Somebody may 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.400 recognize you, maybe they don't, you know what everybody's like. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.200 It's just it's it's just beautiful. One thing that's really 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.760 cool I remember about Tokyo was I remember I got 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.120 a chance to go see it when it was all 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.840 lit up. You know, they had all the lights blazing 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.960 and all that stuff, and I think for the sake 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.199 of energy and you know, conserving energy or something like that, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.840 they would cut the lights off. So there's part of 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.840 there's probably people that are going now that don't get 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.720 a chance to see Tokyo the way it used to be, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.600 where it was like all lit up like Las Vegas. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.200 You know, everything was flashing and neon lights and TVs everywhere. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.720 I remember it was just like intense and it just 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.400 never it's never changed, you know. I go out there 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.160 with with the excitement of what's new every time? 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.520 Do you go with an empty suitcase and just fill 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:30.000 it with like. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.480 Yeah and yeah? Well I learned not to try to 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.280 do it with the DVDs. You know. That's the thing 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.640 I'm saying. You get out there and they just intentionally 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.359 don't put English. They'll put like Chinese and like Spanish, 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.800 but then it would be like who Spanish is gonna 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.680 watch this? Like who is gonna make it all the 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.840 way over here? You're just your mind's blowing it why 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.960 it won't be English translation? But they just will not 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.720 put English translation. That could be a slight, you know, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.560 that could be a little bit of a slight. You know. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.440 I'm paying attention to Japan, but it is one of 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.200 those things that's like, you know, I do go there, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.119 you know, and I just wind up coming home with 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.840 the extra suitcase or something. Yeah. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.239 Stuart, who also sometimes does this podcast, went recently and 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.840 he came back with a number of like little gadgets 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.600 and things like that, but also the miniatures they did 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.199 kind of they make everyday objects, but just the miniature 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.000 and you can get. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.760 Them from the kind of like. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.560 Lockers in like the tube station, and you can get 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.600 a very small version of a I don't know, not 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.800 something like traditionally like a very tiny pineapple. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.080 Yeah, desk pineapple, Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:35.920 Is he a home like back home in. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.919 No, not so much of a not so much of 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.199 a little knick knack thing, but it's more like things 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.119 and like you know, pieces of clothing or like stuff 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.280 like that, like rare pieces of clothing or or like 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.600 you know, I mean there was like one time I 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.479 brought home this umbrella that was literally I didn't realize 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.560 how collectible it was until my little brother broke it 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.680 because he was an idiot, and you know, he's holding 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.280 it again it's the wind and it popped one of 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.280 the things, and I tried to get it replaced, and 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.119 then trying to get it replaced, I found out that 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.520 it was a rare and collectible like like it was 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.480 like more than like a little cool little thing. It 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.320 was like there's only like fifty of them made, and 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.159 they were like at one point on display somewhere and 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:16.880 I was like, I couldn't believe my little brother Boke. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.960 Nobody could fix it. And it's just to this day, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.840 I could just punch my brother's front teeth out. It 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.719 was from Japan, you know, but yeah, it was literally 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.040 I get to just spit on my brother. You know, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.840 I still this day, I could just punch him right 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:34.200 in his mouth for that umbrella that you broke at 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.000 Oh my god. Anyway, but I tend to look for 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:42.280 things that are that are a bit sentimental for you know, 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.080 you know, I don't know, just for different things. You know, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.199 I do have, you know, like certain purposes when I 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.479 go looking for stuff. You know, it's not just all 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.520 cool I found a little No, it's like go to Akihabra, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.000 you go to the Nike, you go to the Nike store, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.600 you know, go to Gundam Cafe. You know, I'm not 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.439 so much a horror yuku guy. You know. It's like 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.520