1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for another episode of Shades 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host are thoughts 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: and opinions only and do not necessarily reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do the proper 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: amount of research yourself, depending on the subject matter and 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: your needs. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. It was 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: May sixteenth, twenty sixteen. My friend Darla and I checked 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: into our room at the Arthur Finley College, located in Stanstead, 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 3: just north of London. The sign outside the estate says 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: Arthur Finley College, the world's foremost college for the advancement 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: of psychic studies. Darla and I were there to take 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: a course in mediumship. I had myself all worked up 22 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: for the many months before we traveled there, not knowing 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: what I was in for. The Arthur Finley College some 24 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: call Hogwarts, of course, where Harry Potter studied. It's a 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: very old estate, beautiful grounds filled with the history of spiritualism. Yes, 26 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: that's right, those who speak to the dead. It's a 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: beautiful old state. It feels a little spooky inside the 28 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: age of the building, the library of spiritualism, and just 29 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: knowing the history of some of the greatest mediums of 30 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: all time trained there. Even much of the history of 31 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: spiritualism began there. Who was Arthur Finley? He was born 32 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: May sixteenth, eighteen eighty three. Isn't that interesting the first 33 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: day I stepped foot in there haha. And he passed 34 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: July twenty fourth, nineteen sixty four. He was a writer, accountant, stockbroker, 35 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: and Essex magistrate. His life was turned upside down when 36 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: he realized the reality of the afterlife and witnessed some 37 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: pretty incredible things, and he himself is one of the 38 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: most significant figures in the history of spiritualism. He was 39 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: part founder of the newspaper The Psychic News and also 40 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: founder of the International Institute for Psychical Research. When he died, 41 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: he left his home, which is called Stansteed Hall, to 42 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: the Spiritualists' National Union. Now what happened to him that 43 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: made him leave his entire fortune to the study of 44 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: psychic sciences? He's not here right now to tell us 45 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: his story, but I do have his book on the 46 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Edge of the Etheric and thought we could meet him together. Now, 47 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: what happened to Darla and I? Oh, we had such 48 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: a wonderful time. If you ever have an opportunity to 49 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: take a course at the Arthur Finley College, go do it. 50 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: In fact, one of my big dreams is to rent 51 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: out the whole place and have a conference where we 52 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: can all meet, have medium classes and you can see 53 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: our tutors Carrie phil Scott Milligan and others demonstrate in person. 54 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be great? The Arthur Finley College, you can 55 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: think of it as a retreat center. It's not a 56 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: formal college like you think people go for four years 57 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: in study. Rather, they have different guest mediums come in 58 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: from time to time and you can take a four 59 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: day class or a class for seven days. Room and 60 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: board is included. You get to attend spiritualist services and meditations. 61 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: It's a great place. We enjoyed ourselves so much that 62 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: I've actually been back there four times. It's well known 63 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: that spiritualism got its start in America, moved its way 64 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: over to England where it became readily available to people 65 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: in that country. Some of the great minds like Arthur 66 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: finni in, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and many of the 67 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: doctors and scientists of the day all got involved with 68 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: studying this so called spiritualism. In preparing for our episode today, 69 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: I also found that Winston Churchill was involved in spiritualism. 70 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: I found an article that said there would be no 71 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Arthur Finlay College if it weren't for Sir Winston Churchill. 72 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: Many people don't know that it was Churchill who established 73 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: the Spiritualist church. He was a great believer in the 74 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: afterlife and psychic abilities. Throughout history, seers and psychics have 75 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: struggled to remove the veil of suspicion of its origins 76 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: being dark or sinister. Churchill normalized contact with spirit and 77 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: psychic mediumship. Therefore, spiritualism thrived and was established as a 78 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: religion in Great Britain. Connecting to spirit was recognized as 79 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 3: mainstream relevant science. That's awesome doing the research on Arthur Finley. 80 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: He was only forty years old when he gave up 81 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: his job as a stockbroker and dedicated his life to 82 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: the research of spiritualism and psychical research. In nineteen fourteen, 83 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: the First World War swept like a dark wave over 84 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: the world. This flooded Europe with great shock of death, desperation, grief, 85 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: sorrow and pain. And during this time Arthur Finley worked 86 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: for the Red Cross and offered his residence, which is 87 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: Stanstad Hall, for injured soldiers for recovery. The tragedies of 88 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: the First World War brought Arthur Finley back to his 89 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: interest in spiritualism and the reoccurring questions about life after death. 90 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: You see, as a young man, he was fascinated about 91 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: different world religions and philosophies. In nineteen nineteen, he met 92 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: the medium John Sloane in Scotland. This meeting changed the 93 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: life of Arthur Finley forever. John Sloane was a poor, 94 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: not well educated man who discovered that he was able 95 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: to be a direct voice medium. When Arthur Finley came 96 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: to one of Sloane's demonstrations with a rather skeptical attitude. 97 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 3: He could not believe what had happened. Sloane was able 98 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: to speak to those who had already passed over and 99 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: receive messages from them. When Arthur Finley realized that everything 100 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: Sloane said to the sitter was actually true, his interest 101 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: was sparked, and he started to visit Sloane again and 102 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: again on a regular basis to investigate his ability. A 103 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: strong friendship developed between the two, and here is a 104 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: quote from Arthur Finley. Death, I am told, is as 105 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: easy and as simple as going to sleep and then awakening. 106 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: Our etheric body slips out of the physical body, carrying 107 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: the mind with it, and we awake to our new 108 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: surroundings to find our friends and relations ready to help 109 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: and instruct us in our new life. Death is simply 110 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: the severance of the etheric body or structure from the 111 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: physical body. The physical body returns to the Earth, and 112 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: the etheric body, controlled by the mind, continues to function 113 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: in the etheric world. I wholeheartedly recommend you pick up 114 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: a copy of On the Edge of the Etheric Boy, 115 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: Arthur Finley. I'm going to recommend that you pretend this 116 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: is his voice telling you the story In nineteen eighteen, 117 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: my wife became seriously ill and had to be removed 118 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: to a nursing home in Glasgow, where she had an 119 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: operation from which she recovered and was fortunately none the 120 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: worse To be near her. I stayed in Glasgow, and 121 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: when sitting with her one Sunday evening, I remarked that 122 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: I would like some fresh air and would go out 123 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: for a stroll. Little did I think what that walk 124 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: would mean to me, but it was the beginning of 125 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: an entire change in my mental outlook on life and death. 126 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: I sauntered down one street and up another, rather aimlessly, 127 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: to pass a church with the name Spiritualist Church prominently 128 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: displayed in the foreground. I stopped to see what it 129 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: looked like, as I did not remember having seen it before, 130 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: and I was unaware that such a denomination existed. What 131 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: little I knew of spiritualism was contained in a book 132 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: my wife had recently been given, and which to me, 133 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: by a casual glance, seemed too fantastic for serious thought. 134 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: I threw it aside as not worth reading. And now 135 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: that Sunday evening I was facing the entrance to a 136 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: Spiritualist church, why not enter and see what it is 137 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: like inside? I thought, and this I did. A service 138 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: was going on and the speaker was telling the congregation 139 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: of some wonderful things he had experienced. I sat down 140 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: and listened, and when the service was over, I went 141 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: up to him, and this is what I said. Do 142 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: you really expect me to believe what you said tonight? 143 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: It may have gone down with some simple minded people 144 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: who listen to you, but do you expect a rational 145 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: thinker to accept as true what you said? Can you 146 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: prove it to me? I have from time to time 147 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: challenged a parson with questions and have received a reply 148 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: such as no, I can prove nothing. But that is 149 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: where faith comes in. You must believe and not doubt. 150 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: The spiritualist whom I now challenged, said exactly the opposite, 151 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: to the effect that I could not be expected to 152 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: believe without proof. Proof is essential, he continued, and what 153 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: spiritualists believe has come from experience. All claims made by 154 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: spiritualists can be proved, and if you want to have proof, 155 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: you have to get it. How, I inquired by going 156 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: to a medium? He answered, Can you take me to one? 157 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: I asked, yes, tomorrow night, if that is convenient to you, 158 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: He replied that reply appealed to me, and I accepted 159 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: his offer. So it was arranged that the following night 160 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: I would meet him at seven o'clock at the corner 161 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: of North Frederick Street and George Street, where he would 162 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: take me to a seance, which was held every Monday 163 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: evening in a house nearby. When I returned and told 164 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: my wife where I was about to go, she wondered 165 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: if it was a wise thing to do. To go 166 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: with a strange man to a strange house seemed to 167 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: her taking an unjustifiable risk. But she raised no objection 168 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: and I kept the appointment next day exactly as arranged. 169 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: This is a good time for us to take our break, 170 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: and when we come back, I will continue reading about 171 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: Arthur Finley's first mediumistic experience that changed his life and 172 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: my life as well, for I would not be telling 173 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: you this story if he did not take those first steps. 174 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 175 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 176 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming 177 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: right up. 178 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 179 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out all 180 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going to 181 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com. 182 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: It's doctr sky. Keep it right here on the iHeartRadio 183 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast am Ironormal Podcast Network. 184 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 185 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: and did you know we all owe Arthur Finley a 186 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: big thank you. If you've ever had a reading by 187 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: a medium, it can all be traced back to Arthur 188 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: Finley and the Arthur Finley College. You see, longtime medium 189 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: Gordon Higginson not only revived the college, but it's his 190 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: teachings that most of the world's medium's reading style hails 191 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: from the good mediums. That is. You can hear more 192 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: about that on episode ninety with Martin Twycross. So let's 193 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: continue reading about Arthur Finley's first medium experience. On Monday, 194 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: the twentieth of September nineteen eighteen, the pastor of the 195 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: Spiritualist Church and I met at the arranged place and 196 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: walked along a quiet street to a house, the entrance 197 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: to which was by a passage. He told me we 198 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: were going to the house of John Sloane, who was 199 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: a medium. We entered the passage and my unknown guide 200 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: knocked at the door on the right hand side. It 201 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: was opened and we were ushered into a small room 202 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: in which ten people all sitting on chairs in a circle. 203 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: The light was on and talking was general. A man 204 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: was playing a hymn on a harmonium. We were both 205 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: given seats in the circle, and no introductions were made. 206 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: All that was said by my guide was a remark 207 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: to the man at the harmonium that he had brought 208 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: someone with him. That was all, by the way, a 209 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: harmonium is like an organ. My guide did not know 210 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: my name, I did not know his, and the rest 211 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: of the people were all complete strangers to me. I 212 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: put them down as belonging to what is called the 213 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: working class. Nice, kindly, decent people who gave me a 214 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: very friendly welcome. The man at the harmonium then said 215 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: it was time to start, and he switched off the light. 216 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: A hymn was played and sung, and then another, but 217 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: before it ended, the organist turned around and took his 218 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: place in the circle. Shortly after this, a man's loud 219 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: voice spoke right in front of my right hand neighbor, 220 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: I heard everything said and the name it gave. The 221 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: conversation being an intimate one between my female neighbor and 222 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: this voice. She had evidently spoken to the voice before 223 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: and took it all quietly and naturally. The voice seemed 224 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: to know everything of importance she had done since the 225 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: last conversation, and ended with love and the promise to 226 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: be back again at the next seance. When the voice 227 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: had finished speaking, she calmly announced to everyone that she 228 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: had been speaking to her husband, whom I took to 229 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: be dead. This went on for three hours, dozens of 230 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: voices speaking to different people, men's voices, women's voice, children's voices, 231 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: all of which I was told came from people called dead. 232 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: A woman's voice spoke to a man sitting on my left. 233 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: It gave a name and referred to happenings at his home. 234 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: It specially referred to Tom, who was giving his father trouble, 235 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: and then came advice as to how he should be 236 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: dealt with. Intimate family matters were discussed between my neighbor 237 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: and this female voice, and finally, with love, it said goodbye. 238 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: That was my wife. He whispered to me. I never 239 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: come here, but she comes back. To me, she always 240 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: knows everything that goes on at home. I was now 241 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: beginning to feel that I was the only one to 242 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: be omitted from the strange medley of conversation which seemed 243 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: to go on and on without stopping. Everything said was 244 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: claimed to be correct, and I wondered how it was 245 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: possible for any human being to be so intimate with 246 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: all the dead friends, friends, and the private doings of 247 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: the sitters as to be able to impersonate their deceased 248 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: relations in the way that was taking place. Not only 249 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: did the imagined impersonator know intimately about their dead friends 250 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: and relations, but every voice was different, the mannerisms were different. 251 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: In fact, each voice had a different personality. What a 252 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: wonderful actor there must be amongst us to be able 253 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: to carry on like this for hours on end, and 254 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: to remember in the dark where everyone was sitting as 255 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: the right person was directly addressed every time, with never 256 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: a mistake. Such were my thoughts when suddenly, right in 257 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: front of my face, a strong voice spoke to me, Yes, 258 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: who are you? I inquired to receive the answer, your father, 259 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: Robert Downey Findley. The voice continued speaking and referred to 260 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: something that only my father and I and one other 261 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: man ever knew about on earth. And that other man, 262 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: like my father, was dead. I was therefore the only 263 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: living person on earth with any knowledge of what that 264 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: voice was talking about. It was a private matter that 265 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: neither I, nor my father, nor any other man when 266 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: on this earth ever spoke about to any other person. 267 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: All this was extraordinary enough, but imagine my surprise when 268 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 3: my father concluded by saying, David Kitson is standing beside 269 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: me and would also like to talk to you about 270 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: this matter. Now, David Kitson was the name of the 271 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: other man who knew about this private affair. He was 272 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: my father's partner, and he was my partner after my 273 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: father's death. Only the three of us knew about this 274 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: private affair. And here I was in a Glasgow artisan's house, 275 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: a complete stranger to everyone, being told by two different 276 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: voices about something known only to me and two dead men. Moreover, 277 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: the voices which spoke claimed to be the voices of 278 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: these two men, and Kidson continued the conversation quite naturally, 279 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: which my father had started to conclude with these words, 280 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: I am glad to get that off my chest at last. 281 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: I won't continue reading the next part, because he goes 282 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: on in great detail about what happened with the business. 283 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: He ends up leaving the seance, and of course it 284 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: made a big difference in his life. He continues. During 285 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: the next five years, I attended thirty nine seances with Sloane, 286 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: sometimes at his house and at times in places of 287 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: my own, choosing eighty three separate voices have spoken to me, 288 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: or two friends I have taken with me. I have 289 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: given details in this book of the precautions I took 290 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: to make sure it was not Sloane who was speaking. 291 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: I sat with him at times alone, and the voices 292 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: spoke even when my ear was in an inch of 293 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: his mouth, which was silent. Two and three voices sometimes 294 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: spoke at the same time. Occasionally the voices were so 295 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: strong that they could be heard across the street. The 296 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: most convincing experiences were when I took strangers to a seance. 297 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: Sloane knew nothing about them, and I never mentioned their names. 298 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: Here are a few instances. One evening, I took with 299 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: me the widow of a man whose body had been 300 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: cremated that day and whose funeral I attended. I introduced 301 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: her to Sloane by another name. A voice spoke to 302 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: me when the seance began, Why did you give the 303 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: ladies wrong name? We know who she is and her husband, 304 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 3: Lewis Pearson is here to speak with her. Pierson then spoke, 305 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: remarking that it would take him some time to recover 306 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: from seeing his earth body burned. When speaking to his wife, 307 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: he became very emotional, so much that he could not 308 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: continue his conversation with her, much to her disappointment. On 309 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: another occasion, I took with me a professor from Glasgow University. 310 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: I did not give his name. I knew little about him, 311 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: but he experienced interest. A voice spoke to him in 312 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: a language I did not understand. He replied in the 313 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: same language, and the conversation went on for some time. 314 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: After the seance was over. I asked him what language 315 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: he was speaking. He replied, I was speaking Welsh. I 316 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: am Welsh, and the voice which spoke to me gave 317 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: the name of an old gardener I employed when I 318 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: lived in Wales. He knew all about me, and what 319 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: he said was quite true. These two experiences I have 320 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: never recorded before, nor the fact that my father came 321 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: back on other occasions and gave me good evidence of 322 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: his presence and survival. Some of my experiences can be 323 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: found in my other books. Many departed friends and relations 324 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 3: have returned and given their correct names and good evidence 325 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: of their survival. But nothing was more amazing than the 326 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: return of Eric Saunders. Not only was his evidence remarkable 327 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: and everything checked later as correct, but he was seen 328 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: when speaking. The honorable Everend Fielding, who was such an 329 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: active member of the Society for Psychical Research, once wrote 330 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: to me to say that a friend of his would 331 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: be coming to Glasgow and would very much like to 332 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: have a sitting with Sloan. I replied that I would 333 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: arrange this, and on the day appointed, mister Fielding's friend 334 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 3: called to see me at my office. In the evening, 335 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: he dined with me at my club, after which we 336 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: went to Sloan's house, where the sitting was held. This man, 337 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: during the course of our conversation prior to the seance, 338 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: never gave me a hint of his occupation, and I 339 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: purposely asked him no particulars. He was therefore a complete 340 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: stranger to me, and neither I, nor the medium, nor 341 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: anybody present at the seance knew anything about him. The 342 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: seance was a good one, and during it a voice 343 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: spoke clearly and distinctly before my new acquaintance. It addressed 344 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: him correctly, and when he asked who was speaking, the 345 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: voice replied, when I was on Earth, I was known 346 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: as King Edward the seventh. A personal conversation ensued, names 347 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: of people being mentioned by the voice, which my acquaintance knew, 348 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: and the conversation went on quite naturally, just as if 349 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: my friend were speaking to someone on earth. Finally, the 350 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: voice said, I must thank you for all your kindness 351 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: to my wife, Queen Alexandra. I do not know how 352 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: she could have gone on without you, and you have 353 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: relieved her of so much worry and care. After the 354 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: seance was over, I asked him if he were satisfied 355 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: with this strange experience, and he replied most certainly. Then 356 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: I said, will you tell me your position towards Queen Alexandra. Oh, 357 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: he replied, I am the controller of her household. Neither 358 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: I nor any other person in this room that night, 359 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: except him himself, knew this. Queen Alexandra, when she heard 360 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: about this seance, wanted to sit with Sloane, and this 361 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: took place in London, and to her great satisfaction. Those 362 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: present included friends Sir William Barrett, the eminent physicist, Sir 363 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: Arthur Conan Doyle, Doctor Abraham Wallace, and Sir Oliver Lodge, 364 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: all believers in the reality of this phenomena after years 365 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: of study and experience. Let's take our break and then 366 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: we'll be back with more. You're listening to Shades of 367 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 368 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network. 369 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. 370 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. The 371 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: art Belvault never disappoints. Classic audio at your fingertips. Go 372 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: now to Coast tocoastam dot com for full details. 373 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: Hi, this is your followist Kevin Randall, and you're listening 374 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 375 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 376 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: and I am reading to you from Arthur Finley's book 377 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: on the Edge of the Etheric. If you've listened to 378 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: past episodes where I've spoken about physical mediums, that's what 379 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about here. With either the lights off or 380 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: just a dim red light on a substance called ectoplasm 381 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: is released as a gas from the medium. Loved ones 382 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: can step into it and have their voices heard again. 383 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: It sounds to me like this. John Sloan's mediumship was 384 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: a bit different, and I know I have witnessed this 385 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: form of communication sitting with our friend Scott Milligan. An 386 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 3: ectoplasmic voice box will form, a trumpet will rise and 387 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: the voice can get magnified to be heard by all. 388 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: So let me continue with Arthur Finley. I have in 389 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: the previous chapters given information purporting to come from voices, 390 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: either through the trumpet or apart altogether from the trumpet. Sloane, however, 391 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 3: is one of the finest mediums in the country, and 392 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: sometimes a communicator. If he cannot get his message through 393 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: correctly or by direct means, controls the medium or sends 394 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: the message through one of Sloan's regular controls. I have 395 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: had messages given partly one way or partly the other. However, 396 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: for long continued conversation, trance communications are the best, as 397 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: they are more sustained uninterrupted conversations lasting for over an hour. 398 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: In this way I have received much detailed information as 399 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: to how the direct voice is produced. What the etheric 400 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: body really is, the conditions existing in the world beyond, 401 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: and the relativeative structure of the substance of which that 402 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 3: world is composed, as compared with our physical matter. A 403 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: stenographer present has recorded what was said. First of all, 404 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: I am told that the whole universe is made up 405 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: of substance of various degrees of density and vibratory activity 406 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: that fills all space in which life exists, in varying 407 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: degrees of development. What we sense here on Earth is 408 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: only matter vibrating within certain fixed limits, surrounding, interpenetrating, attached 409 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: to and moving with our Earth, is another world of 410 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: etheric matter in a higher state of vibration. Consequently, it 411 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 3: is unperceived by our senses in our physical world. The 412 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: real or enduring body is an etheric body which, at 413 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: the moment of our conception commences to gather round it, 414 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: or in other words, clothes its self with physical matter. 415 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: Slow in vibration. The etheric body is the framework onto 416 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: which physical matter is attached. This etheric body is composed 417 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: of substance quite in tune with the etheric matter of 418 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: the next plane, but so long as it is attached 419 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: to physical matter, it is limited by the limitations of 420 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: such matter. At death, however, the etheric body is released 421 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 3: from its physical covering and continues functioning quite naturally in 422 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: the etheric world, where everything is as real to it 423 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: as when it was in the physical The etheric body 424 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: is in every particular a duplicate of our physical body, 425 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: and so it could be understood how if conditions are 426 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: given for an etherian to rematerialize his organs of speech, 427 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: it is possible to vibrate again our atmosphere and make 428 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: his voice heard. The mind, which controls the etheric duplicate, 429 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: carries over with it. I am told, everything but the 430 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: physical covering, character, memory, affection, personality, etc. Go with the mind, 431 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: because they relate to the mind and not to the 432 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: physical body. The etheric world is in many respects similar 433 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: to this world. Our senses there respond as they do here, 434 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: but owing to the finer structure of etheric substance, the 435 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: mind can work on it in a way it cannot 436 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: do here. Hence it is in this sense a mental world. 437 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: But our present world is also a mental world, as 438 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: I tried to show you in chapter three. In this 439 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: next state of consciousness, the inhabitants find themselves in surroundings 440 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: much the same as we experience here, grow trees and flowers, 441 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: but there is no death, as we understand it, all 442 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: vegetable life, instead of decaying, de materializes and disappears from sight. 443 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: The surroundings of the inhabitants are greatly conditioned by their thoughts, 444 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: and so their houses and mode of life are much 445 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: their own making. This, I am told, does not constitute 446 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: the next state to be one purely of mental projections, 447 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: because its inhabitants have the same sensations as we have. 448 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: As they can feel, touch and smell the flowers, they 449 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: can gather them, and when walking in the fields they 450 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: can meet and talk with their friends, all on the 451 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: same plane, I am told, can see and touch the 452 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: same things. This is the reply I invariably received when 453 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: trying to find out whether this state was a objective 454 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: or subjective. There are many planes, but only those in 455 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: the same plane experience the same sensations. I have myself 456 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: experienced etherians present who have talked to me, but they 457 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: could not see each other though they were in the 458 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: same room. The explanation given being that they were in 459 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: different planes of existence. These Etherians are men and women, 460 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: not vaporous spirits, but real, vital, and tangible people, such 461 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: as we mix with every day. Theirs is not a 462 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: dream world, but one of objective reality, intensely real everything, music, art, 463 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: and all constructive work being at a higher pitch than 464 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: we can possibly understand. Great activity prevails, and everyone has 465 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: his or her own work to do. Service to others 466 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: and fellowship are ethical standards which prevail there to a 467 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: higher degree than here. There is a universal language, and 468 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: everyone can understand the other. It is inherent. Nationalities generally 469 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: live together and speak their own language, but there is 470 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: one language common to all. My informants were insistent on 471 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: the point that with them discipline was rigid, and all 472 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: had to obey those in authority. Everyone under the authority 473 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 3: of higher Etherians, whose laws and instructions must be carefully obeyed. 474 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: It is well ordered in a well governed state. There 475 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: is no night as we understand it, and the light 476 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: they get does not come from our sun. If they 477 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: want to rest, they can get subdued light, but not 478 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: darkness as we experience it. When asked as to their food, 479 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: I was told that they ate and drank just as 480 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: we did, and enjoyed the same sensations, but their eating 481 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: and drinking were different from what we understand by these words. 482 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: They enjoy much more freedom of movement as they get 483 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: from one place to another at a speed we cannot comprehend. 484 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: On other occasions, when I put questions about the composition 485 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: of our minds, I was told that the mind was 486 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: substance in a very rapid state of vibration, and that 487 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 3: at death, though we left on Earth our physical brain, 488 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: yet the mind in etheric life functioned through the etheric 489 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 3: duplicate of the brain, which survived death along with the 490 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: rest of the etheric body. All life persists. Animals as 491 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: well as human beings survive death, and each enters into 492 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: a state of harmonious to the vibrations of each. Affection 493 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: on the part of an animal, for an individual can 494 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: bring the two together again after death, but without this 495 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: bond of affection, they would function unsensed by the other 496 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: in their own plane. Thus life is indestructible. A great 497 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 3: universal force is everywhere in everything, in some form or another, 498 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: but only when in conjunction with the physical can it 499 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: be perceived by our limited sense perceptions. Physical science deals 500 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 3: with physical matter, something we can sense. Psychical science deals 501 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: with etheric matter. We cannot sense etheric matter, but ethereans can. 502 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: It's atomic structure, i am told, differs from that of 503 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: our matter. It may be ether or something akin to ether, 504 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: for all we know. To the contrary, physics and psychics 505 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: are twin brothers, which makes it easier for a physicist 506 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: to understand psychics than scientists or other branches of knowledge. Hence, 507 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: the whole tendency of physical science today is towards the 508 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: view that not physical but etheric substance is the basic 509 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 3: structure of our universe. Only the ignorant affirm that just 510 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: what we sense is real, that beyond this range of 511 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 3: sense nothing exists. Our range of sense, our sight, our touch, 512 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: our smell, and hearing are limited to the last degree. 513 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: We know that the spectrum of the spectroscope proves the 514 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: very limited range of our ordinary vision, and that further 515 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: ranges of vibration of what might be color could we 516 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 3: see them, extend on either side. It has been said 517 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 3: that perceived vibrations, as compared with the unperceived, are much 518 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: less than an inch to a mile. Therefore, it is 519 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: evident that there lies an enormous region for other life 520 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: to inhabit. Around and within this world of ours, a 521 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 3: region quite beyond our normal sense perceptions, until one clearly 522 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 3: understands that our senses here only respond to a very 523 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 3: limited range of vibrations what we term physical matter. That 524 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: outside these is a universe full of life which responds 525 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: to a higher range of vibrations, unreal to us, but 526 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: more real to it than physical matter. One cannot grasp 527 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: or understand in all of its fullness, that psychical phenomena 528 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: which develop through mediumship. Before we go to the break, 529 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 3: let's think about one thing we heard as kids, that 530 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: we don't have the same cells in our body that 531 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: we had seven years ago. That everything regenerates itself. Science 532 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 3: also cannot find where our thoughts, feelings, and emotions are stored. 533 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: So it makes perfect sense to me that we have 534 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: this etheric body where these memories and our whole personality 535 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: is stored, that when we depart this earth, it continues on. 536 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: To me, makes perfect sense. Something to think about during 537 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: the break, and we'll be back. You're listening to Shades 538 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 539 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: AM Paranormal podcast Network. 540 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 4: Stay right there, there's more. 541 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: Sandra coming right out Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird 542 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 5: Joshua P. 543 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: Warren. 544 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 5: Don't forget to check out my show Strange Things each 545 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 5: week as I bring you the world of the truly 546 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 5: amazing and bizarre right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast 547 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 5: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 548 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 4: This is Afterlife Expert Daniel Break and you're listening the 549 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Aaronormal Podcast Network. 550 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain. 551 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: The Great Arthur Finley, as you remember, attended his very 552 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: first seance at the age of forty. He spent the 553 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 3: next forty one years full time exploring the world of 554 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 3: the afterlife. I believe he wrote something like a dozen books, 555 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 3: if not more. Of course, he gave his fortune and 556 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: his estate away to the Spiritualist National Union. Currently, there's 557 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: courses you can take at the Arthur Finley College and 558 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: it's like going on retreat. Really is a special place. 559 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: You can check out the college by going to Arthur 560 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: Finley College a dot org. There's also a link there 561 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 3: to shop their bookstore, should you like to do that. 562 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 3: I'm proud to say that our main tutors Kerrie McLeod, 563 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 3: Philip Dyke's Scott Milligan. All hail from the teachings of 564 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: the great Gordon Higginson, who resurrected the college and whose 565 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: medium principles we use today. John Campbell Sloane, who was 566 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: the medium so closely connected with Arthur Finley. He passed 567 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 3: back in nineteen fifty one at the age of eighty two, 568 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 3: and for nearly fifty years he gave his mediumship to humanity. 569 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: He did not have a big ego, did not have 570 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: a lot of money, never asked for rewards or praise. 571 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: He was humble and modest and gave freely and expected nothing. Boy, 572 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: those are the kind of people that I like to 573 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: hear about. I'm just thumbing through the book now on 574 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: the edge of the Etheric, and at the very end 575 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 3: you'll enjoy reading one hundred and eighty eight facts given 576 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: at two consecutive sittings to Arthur Finley after his mom 577 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: passed in nineteen thirty six. Arthur Finley had two seances 578 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: and there are many pages of all the information that 579 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: came through straight from the mother, which is incredible. I 580 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: want to read to you now some of the questions 581 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: and answers that he asked the spirit people here on Earth, 582 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 3: we can only appreciate the physical, namely the Earth, the Sun, 583 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 3: and stars. What is contained in what we call space? 584 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: The answer I can only answer you so far as 585 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 3: my knowledge permits interpenetrating your world is another world of substance, 586 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 3: in a higher state of vibration to the one you sense. 587 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 3: The universe is once to pendous whole. But you can 588 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: only appreciate what you see and hear and feel. Believe me, 589 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: there are other worlds of substance, finer than physical matter 590 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: in which life exists, and of which you on Earth 591 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: can form. No conception connected with your earth is this 592 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: world to which I came after what you call death. 593 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: Encircling your world are planes of different density, and these 594 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 3: move in rotation with the rotation of the Earth. Question 595 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 3: is your world then a real and tangible world? Answer? Yes, 596 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 3: it is very real to us. But the conditions in 597 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: which we find ourselves depend on the condition of our mind. 598 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 3: If we wish it, we can be surrounded by beautiful country. 599 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: Our mind plays a large part in our life here. 600 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 3: Just as we live in surroundings suitable to our mental development, 601 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: so we also attract to ourselves minds of the same 602 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: type as our own. Like attracts like in our world, 603 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 3: so also like attracts like. So far as your world 604 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 3: and our world are concerned, we can at will take 605 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: on Earth conditions. By lowering our vibrations. Our bodies become 606 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: heavier and more perceptible to the human eye, which accounts 607 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 3: for our being seen at times by those who have 608 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: the faculty on Earth of sensing our vibrations. Question do 609 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: all the inhabitants of your world get into contact with 610 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 3: the earth from time to time? Answer? The higher and 611 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 3: more developed we become, the less we are in touch 612 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 3: with your world. It is all a question of desire. 613 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: We can come into contact with Earth conditions at will. 614 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 3: If the will for doing so is absent, then we 615 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 3: do not return to you. Question do we always retain 616 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 3: our individuality? Answer? Think of a countryside with glens and hills. 617 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 3: The rain falls and gradually trickles down into smaller streams, 618 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 3: which streams together volume until they enter a brook, which 619 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 3: brook in turn enters a river, which in turn enters 620 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: a larger river and sweeps onward to the sea. Each 621 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 3: individual can be compared to an atom in the rain drop. 622 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 3: The atom retains form and individuality throughout the whole course 623 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 3: from the hill to the sea, and even in the 624 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 3: sea it does not lose its individuality. So with us 625 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 3: we move onwards and onwards, always retaining our individuality until 626 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: we merge into the sea of full understanding, when we 627 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: become part of the divinity. Question. That is certainly a 628 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 3: very very clear illustration. But to go back for a 629 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 3: moment to the reply you gave me in an answer 630 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: to my question about your world being tangible and real, 631 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 3: you stated that your surroundings depended on the condition of 632 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: your minds. Now, is your life purely a mental one? 633 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 3: Or can you touch and feel your surroundings just as 634 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 3: we do here? In other words, is your world a 635 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 3: material one like ours? Answer? Our world is not material, 636 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: but it is real. It is tangible, composed of substance, 637 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 3: in a much higher state of vibration than the matter 638 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 3: which makes up your world. Our minds can therefore play 639 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 3: upon it in a different way than yours can on 640 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 3: the material side of life. As our mind is, so 641 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 3: is our state. We create our surroundings, and the surroundings 642 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: can be beautiful. Question can you touch what you see? Answer? Yes, 643 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: of course, we can touch and feel and enjoy all 644 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 3: the sensations you do. Question do you eat and enjoy 645 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 3: your food? Yes, we eat and drink, but it is 646 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 3: not what you mean by eating and drinking. To us, 647 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 3: it is a mental condition. We enjoy it mentally, not 648 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 3: bodily as you do. Question what are your houses like? Answer? 649 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 3: Our houses are just as we care to make them. 650 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 3: Your earth houses first were conceived in your mind, and 651 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 3: then physical matter was put together to make them as 652 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: your mind first saw them. Here we have the power 653 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 3: to mold etheric matter as we think, so our houses 654 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 3: are also the products of our minds. We think and 655 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 3: we construct. It is a question of thought vibration, and 656 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 3: so long as we retain these vibrations, we can hold 657 00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: the object, which, during this time is objective to our senses. 658 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: Question do we incarnate again on Earth? Answer? Now, that 659 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: is a question I find difficulty in answering. I have 660 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 3: known no one who has I have passed over many 661 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: years ago, and I have round about me those who 662 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 3: lived thousands of years ago on Earth. That is all 663 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 3: I can say, because my knowledge does not permit me 664 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: to say more. Question do dogs, cats, and other animals 665 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 3: survive death? Answer? Yes, most emphatically. Yes, they do survive. 666 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 3: No life becomes extinct. But they do not survive in 667 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 3: the spirit world as we term it. They have a 668 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: spirit world of their own making. They do not exist 669 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 3: in a spirit world as man exists. However, say a 670 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 3: dog has an affection for a human being, it can 671 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 3: get into his or her surroundings. If you both have 672 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 3: left to your earth. Question is your vegetation similar to ours? 673 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 3: Answer something similar, but much more beautiful. Question Where do 674 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 3: you get your light from? And when do you sleep? Answer? 675 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: If we feel we want rest, we can get subdued light, 676 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 3: not so subdued as you understand it, but sufficient to 677 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 3: enable us to rest. We have no night here as 678 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 3: you would understand night. We get our light from the 679 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: source of all light. But I cannot continue further tonight 680 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 3: as the power has gone. So good night, and may 681 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 3: the light that lightens all darkness leads you into the 682 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 3: light you are so earnestly seeking. This fine book that 683 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,479 Speaker 3: I hold in my hands is filled with all kinds 684 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: of pages, folded over and underlines and stars. There's so 685 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 3: much in there about science, about physics, and Arthur Finley 686 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 3: wasn't alone. His group of people were scientists, doctors, physicists, 687 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 3: all exploring the afterlife, just like we are too. Direct 688 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 3: voice mediumship is very rare, but where it begins is 689 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: in the home circle. Years ago, people used to get 690 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 3: together and sing and make room for the spirit world, 691 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 3: and that's really not the case anymore. Medium Scott Milligan 692 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 3: and I are trying to revive that. We created a 693 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 3: home study course about home circles which is filled with 694 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: something like twenty hours of extra material, and he and 695 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 3: I have an extraordinary conversation about what these home circles are, 696 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 3: how we can get started in them, And even if 697 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 3: you wish to sit by yourself and develop your own 698 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,439 Speaker 3: relationship with the spirit world, you can. If you want 699 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 3: to ask your own questions to the spirit world, come 700 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: join us on a Friday when Scott Milligan does a 701 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 3: trance demonstration. Our home base is we Don't Die dot com. 702 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: If you're interested in mental mediumship, I advise you to 703 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: come take a course with Carrie and Phil. If you're 704 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 3: interested in the world of direct voice, physical mediumship, trance mediumship, 705 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 3: click on the tab at the top of the page 706 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 3: that says Scott Milligan. That's where you'll find the Home 707 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: Circle course, also there's some great audios by old and 708 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:43,240 Speaker 3: deceased now spiritualists talking about their experiences in these seance rooms. 709 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible. So, Arthur Finley, I know you are 710 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: just in the Etheric and hopefully you guided me to 711 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 3: the right passages of yours to read today. I'd really 712 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 3: like to thank you for listening. I hope you've enjoyed this. 713 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,240 Speaker 3: It gives just a little taste of the great Arthur 714 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: Finley and his book on the Edge of the Etheric. 715 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: In closing, there's more to life than meets the eye, 716 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 3: and there's more to you than you know. Again, visit 717 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 3: us at We Don't Die dot com. I'm Sander Champlain. 718 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 719 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. 720 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 721 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 722 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 723 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com.