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Speaker 1: game for the Seattle Seahawks and Sam Darnold. Huge play

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Speaker 1: three yards. I believe it was To now hold that

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Speaker 1: record and to do it in only eleven games is incredible. Mitchell, again,

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Speaker 1: that defense looks good. They just looks well coached and formidable,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure fans will be complaining about how that game

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Speaker 1: really felt like the game was in doubt, but Steele

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Speaker 1: They start these games off so incredible and this was

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Speaker 1: another incredible start. Another road win for Mike McDonald in

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Speaker 1: this defense, in this offense, the special teams that's been

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's gonna be a coachable moment for

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Speaker 1: about the Seattle Seahawks as I felt all season. I

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Speaker 1: They just continue to just be a steady ship. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: being who you're supposed to be, beating teams you're supposed

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Speaker 1: Football League, and that's what the Seattle Seahawks are doing.

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Speaker 1: They're beating the teams they're supposed to be, They're battling

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Speaker 1: I thought this was one of Devin Witherspoon's best games.

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Speaker 1: I thought Tarik Woolan has since the trade rumors and

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Speaker 1: all that, has played magnificent football. I know it's not

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Speaker 1: the interception numbers and the things that fans want to

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Speaker 1: of incomplete passes, throughout this game, just was Titan coverage

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Speaker 1: Lorens just a veteran presence that's been dominant throughout this season.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line. The offensive line for the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: has been a revelation. They've been a revelation they've been.

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Speaker 1: That's a big reason why they are as good as

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Speaker 1: players that were supposed to be very disruptive in this game.

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Speaker 1: We know Sam Darnold struggled and there was some pressure,

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Speaker 1: He didn't get sacked a ton in this game. He

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Speaker 1: that's another positive sign for the Seattle Seahawks because that's

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Speaker 1: of true Super Bowl contenders this season is if they

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Speaker 1: can balance out this offense. Balance out this offense. We

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Speaker 1: know you got Jackson Smith and Jigba who's having an

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Speaker 1: is just one season. Well, this is that season for him.

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Speaker 1: He's breaking records all over the place. He's leading the

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Speaker 1: Darnold was doing what he's supposed to do. Some of

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Speaker 1: His poise in this game was much better, and I

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been throwing the passes that he did

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Speaker 1: that led to interceptions. His eyes, his eyes were there.

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Speaker 1: He gave it away. He had a work terrible game.

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Speaker 1: If he can respond and he can play better against

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Speaker 1: this same Rams team late in the season, we got

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Speaker 1: And I know the Philadelphia Eagles fans will say, what

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Speaker 1: But I think this defense is really solid, complete with

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Speaker 1: I think this is the most complete team. I think

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Speaker 1: a tough out for anybody in the playoffs. They moved

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Speaker 1: to one in ten cam Awards. Showed some flashes, no

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Speaker 1: to he showed some flashes during a very tough season.

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Speaker 1: He's showing improvement, He's showing that he can get the

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Speaker 1: But we'll see how this season continues to go. The

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Speaker 1: next week. So JJ McCarthy in his troubles travel to.

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Speaker 2: Seattle revenge game. Richard Sam Darnald. I gotta say this man,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about it this week. The Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 2: won this offseason. In my opinion, you move on from

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Speaker 2: Geno Smith. It seemed like, you know, Gino had the

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks in a position where they're always competitive. They

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Speaker 2: true contender. And when I say contender, I don't think

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Speaker 2: they were a true division contender. You bring Sam Darnald in,

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Speaker 2: you pay him forty million dollars a year, which on

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Speaker 2: its surface seems like a lot. But when you compare

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Speaker 2: that to Trevor Lawrence Jordan Love, these guys making North

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Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty five million dollars, you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about a dramatic discount. The Seattle Seahawks got with

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, and he is a guy that I think

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Speaker 2: in this NFC. I truly believe that. And then you

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Speaker 2: look at JSN. We all talk about yack Kings, right,

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Speaker 2: the Yak Kings, the Deebo Samuels of the world, the

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Speaker 2: deep ball King, not the yack King, but the deep

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Speaker 2: PFF on deep ball Rating. He's number one in the league.

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Speaker 2: He's got fourteen receptions north to twenty yards.

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Speaker 2: This guy, I mean, Ohio State went in out draft

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Speaker 2: in Ohio State wide out. That's my motto. If I

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Speaker 2: it in the league. Jsn oh, my goodness, might just

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Speaker 2: be the best of the bunch. But we've talked about

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Speaker 2: cam Ward a little bit, Richard, and I disagree with

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Speaker 2: you wholeheartedly. In fact, I think Jackson Dart should have

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Speaker 2: been the number one pick based on his performance this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know he was out this game against Alliance, but

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Speaker 2: what I see, the stature, the charisma, the poise, you know,

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Speaker 2: the winner mentality. I still think Jackson Dart should have

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Speaker 2: see out of cam Ward today, But Richard, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sold on him as the future of this Tennessee Titans franchise.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a good player, but I

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Speaker 2: stand by my word. I think Jackson Dart is the

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Speaker 2: better pro going forward. I'll let you respond to that notion,

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Speaker 2: but that's my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. You know, you can make

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Speaker 1: an argument either way. Obviously, the Titans have won win

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Speaker 1: better supporting cast no question about it. I think their

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Can you name three? Because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: without looking it up. And I can say the same

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Speaker 1: about the Giants if I'm being honest. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart played with great receivers for the Giants, but

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Speaker 1: I thought the play calling there, the system in place,

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Speaker 1: the structure that they play within, was better than what

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Speaker 1: cam Ward has been given. I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: who the Tennessee Titans hire to help support cam Ward

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Speaker 1: and push him to the next level. We're hearing about

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings fans calling for the firing of Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: which I never thought I would hear. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's these NFC North teams, Metro. I'm sorry. They're just

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Speaker 1: these fan bases, and I know they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: but hearing them call for that. The Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: give me a break.

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Speaker 2: I'm Richard If the Minnesota Vikings fire Kevin O'Connell, he

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Speaker 1: No question about that, Mitchell. And that's the thing I know.

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Speaker 1: But Jamier gives fifteen carries for two hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 2: You did tell me, Richard. We talked about this last night.

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Speaker 2: I did not go to the game today. I had

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Speaker 1: Richard.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a cake walk

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Speaker 2: put me in my place, she said, Mitchell b Lary

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Speaker 2: football team. Jamis Winston scared the living Bejesus out of

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Speaker 2: me today, Richard. There was over a thousand yards of

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Speaker 2: NFL history that happened. Because it was a wild one

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Speaker 2: in Detroit. Detroit got down early. They were never in

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Speaker 2: You have got, i would say, without argument, one of

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery five carries today for eighteen yards. Last year,

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Speaker 2: that set up play action that allowed Jery Goff to

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Speaker 2: not seeing that right now. The explosives are coming from

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions of the last two years ran the ball

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: You're down ten early. Who cares? You got to rely

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Speaker 2: That's awesome due to two explosives of Jamier Gibbs. Hand

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Speaker 2: And the slotting of this playoff run down the stretch, Richard,

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Speaker 1: No I can tell, and I'm sure the other Detroit

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Richard. Before we leave this game, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I like what I see in Mike Kafka, But

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Speaker 1: competitive in the playoffs. They held Jonathan Taylor in check,

431
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Speaker 1: who's been an MVP candidate all season long, held Daniel

432
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: Jones in check. The Coach defense was able to get

433
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: to Mahomes and sack him four times, force an interception,

434
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: force force fumble, but Mahomes still twenty nine to forty six,

435
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: three and fifty two yards. But they leaned on Kareem

436
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: Hunt in this game and he imposed his will throughout

437
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: the game. He had thirty carries for one hundred and

438
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: four yards, but he had that critical fumble deep in

439
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: the red zone that almost was the defining moment of

440
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: this game for the Kansas City Chiefs. But you just

441
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: saw that resilience, you saw the desperation. You saw them

442
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: turn into that championship pedigree to tune into that championship pedigree,

443
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: that desperate mode. And they're tough to beat if they

444
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: play like that. And sometimes you see them throughout the

445
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: season where they'll just lollygag through these games they'll just

446
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: coast through them like, hey, we've been here before, like

447
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: they're board in the National Football League and they've lost

448
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of those games that way. But this game

449
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: you saw them, Hey, we're very deliberate, we're very serious

450
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: against the team that I think is going to be

451
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: competitive late in the season and gonna go to the

452
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: playoffs and get a win or two. So we'll see.

453
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: This is a big win for the Kansas City Chiefs,

454
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: real a tougher loss for the Indianapolis Coast. And you'll think,

455
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: because they have the Houston Tech next, who gets CJ.

456
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: Stroud back coming off a big win against the Buffalo Bills,

457
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: they look good. They look really good. They're six and

458
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: two in their last eight games. If I'm not mistaken,

459
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: they're six and two in their last eight. They're not

460
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: the same Texans team that was zering three to start

461
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: the season. So the way that defense is playing, to

462
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: watch this coach play this way, that defense is number

463
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: three against the run, number three against the pass, number

464
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: one in total defense, and number one in scoring defense.

465
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in that game and they're gonna be disruptive.

466
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Those they got two pass rushers over ten sacks already

467
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: and daneil Hunter and Will Anderson, so this isn't gonna

468
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: be any walk in the park. And in their secondary

469
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: they have a budding superstar for the Houston Texans and

470
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: Kayln Bullock who had two interceptions in the game this week,

471
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: a forced fumble, four interceptions on the season. And we're

472
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Speaker 1: not even talking about Derek Stingley and Kamari Lassiter. And

473
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: Kamari Lassiter is playing with a different kind of physicality.

474
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: We saw a highlight that didn't even involve him defending

475
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: a pass. He was coming on coming downhill, taking on

476
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: fullback and ragged alling him for a TfL and on

477
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: a critical play in the game. So you're talking about

478
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: a defense that's running and hidding. Well, the coach could

479
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: be in trouble, not because they're not a great team

480
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: and not playing great football, but they're just running into

481
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: teams that are really really rolling right now. And I'm

482
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: looking forward to that game. That's probably gonna be the

483
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: game of the week next week. The Chiefs have the Cowboy. Sorry,

484
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Speaker 1: I don't doubt you at all.

485
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Speaker 2: I was so impressed with the Houston Texans on Thursday night,

486
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: and I know you got to see him firsthand on

487
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football there, Richard, you even got to sit

488
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: down right with with not Derek Stingley, but Caden Bullock

489
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: and Kamari Lassiter. I mean, how cool of an experience

490
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: is that. I know these guys are too young, young

491
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: bucks in the NFL just finding their footing, but holy cow,

492
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: they have changed that Houston Texan secondary into an absolute juggernaut.

493
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: And I think they're really carrying this team. And you

494
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: couple that with Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. I would

495
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: not want to be playing against that team right now.

496
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: And no question about it, they're gonna They're young, and

497
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: they're hungry, they're both only in their second years, they're

498
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: best friends, and they're playing at a really high level.

499
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just takes a little bit more, a little

500
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: bit of information, a little hint here and there to click.

501
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: And we were having a conversation where we were doing

502
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: to sit down interview, and I was just telling Kaylin

503
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: the conversation I had with Tamiko Ryans after well during

504
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, and it was just his hesitation and

505
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: it was hesitation and I've been there before. I haven't

506
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: been there in the league because I decided in the

507
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I played with a lot of hesitation. In college.

508
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: I played games where I was like, oh, man, I

509
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: studied really hard. I'm getting a formation. I see the picture.

510
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: I've studied, but I'm still not believing it. I see

511
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: all it should be a slant on display, and instead

512
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: of just driving the slant and believe in it, I'm like,

513
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: but what if it's a slant and go and then

514
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: the guy runs a slant and catches the ball and

515
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: I tackle him and it's bang bang play, But it

516
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: still split second decisions. That's the difference between an All

517
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Pro and just a good player and just a solid player.

518
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: And I told myself when I didn't get invited to

519
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: the Combine, and I didn't, I ended my senior year

520
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't have an invite to the Combine, I

521
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: didn't have an invite to any any All Star games

522
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: or anything. I said, if I ever get an opportunity

523
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: to play again, I'm gonna I'm gonna work my butt off,

524
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna study the tape, and I'm gonna play without hesitation.

525
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: And that's what I told him. And after the Senior Bowl,

526
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: I played really well in the Senior Bowl. I got

527
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: a late invite after after somebody got hurt, and I

528
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: played out there with no hesitation, and that earned me

529
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: an invitation to the Combine. And when I got to

530
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: the National Football League and got my opportunity, I never

531
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Speaker 1: played with hesitation. I trusted that my film study and

532
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: my preparation all week was legitimate. And if I saw

533
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: the looks I'm looking for, if I if I got

534
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the formations and the splits that I was looking for,

535
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna drive the play that I believe it is.

536
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And I told that's Kaylen Bullock during that interview that hey,

537
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: you just got to trust it.

538
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Man.

539
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: You can't work hard all week and and trust it

540
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: and practice trust it and walk through and trust it

541
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: and all these other scenarios and get in the game

542
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: and not trust because then you killing the point that'll

543
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: drive a coach crazy. Trust it. Just trust your work

544
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: in preparation. You've earned the right to make that play.

545
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: And if you don't make the play, or they run

546
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: a double move or they do something different, at least

547
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: you can go to your coach and say, hey, I

548
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: base this off of all the work we did in practice.

549
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: It looks you gave me the film I study, and

550
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: that's why I drove the coach, and a coach can

551
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: understand that and say, okay, I understand that, good job.

552
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Just keep better eyes on that play. But when you

553
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: do all that and you hesitate and you don't make

554
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: the play, they cannot accept it. And in that game,

555
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: he did not hesitate at all, and I don't think

556
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: he will hesitate going forward. He's going to be one

557
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: of the best safeties in the National Football League.

558
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Love it, Love it, Richard. The Green Bay Packers, this

559
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: team has been middling for a while. They've been winning,

560
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: but it has been just surviving advance, survive in advance,

561
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: nothing nothing, earthshocking. The Minnesota Vikings came into town with

562
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: the aforementioned JJ McCarthy and looked terrible. Twelve of nineteen

563
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: for eighty seven yards and two in q BE rating

564
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: at thirty four point two. Richard, where do we start?

565
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: You want to start with the Green Bay Packers? You

566
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: want to start with these lowly Minnesota Vikings, who unfortunately

567
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: beat my Detroit Lions a couple of weeks ago.

568
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's that's Menchell.

569
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Embarrassing.

570
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: It's really embarrassing. And that's another conversation for a different day.

571
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: But that's a reason why there's hope in the Minnesota Vikings.

572
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: That game. That game, your Detroit Lions gave false hope

573
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to this Minnesota Vikings fan base. But I want to

574
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: talk about the Green Bay Packers in this game because

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: they scored twenty three points, Jordan Love fourteen to twenty one,

576
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: one thirty nine, sacked once, but they ran Wilson twenty

577
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: eight times for one oh seven and two touchdowns. Christian

578
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Watson had five catches for forty nine yards. And I

579
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: keep hearing Green Bay Packers are too predictable. They're too predictable.

580
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: It seems like the defense just has our playbook. I

581
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: don't know how many times I have to say this.

582
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's going to be more apparent

583
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: to your fan base. They do not trust the quarterback.

584
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't. Your coach does not trust your quarterback.

585
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: This Minnesota Vikings team, and Brian Floor is aggressive, exotic,

586
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: He can bring a lot of pressures from a lot

587
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: of different ways. Your offensive line is banged up. I

588
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: understand these are all factors that Lafloor is taken into

589
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: account when he's calling these plays. He's not just saying, hey,

590
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: we got a great offensive line, we got all these

591
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: great receivers and a great back. Right there, Josh Jacobs

592
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: isn't even playing. It's not like he ran Josh Jacobs

593
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight times. He felt the need that to run

594
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Wilson thirty I mean almost thirty times in this game.

595
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: And the reason is the offensive line is banged up.

596
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to put my quarterback in

597
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: a position to lose as a game that we should

598
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: win easily if we just lean on our defense in

599
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: our run game. That's how you play when you got

600
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Speaker 1: a quarterback you don't trust, or a rookie quarterback, not

601
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You're playing fifty five million, and you think, hey,

602
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: this is one of the most dynamic players in the

603
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: National Football League, this is one of the most elite

604
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: players in the National Football League, and he can go

605
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: out there and help us take us to the next level.

606
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: They don't believe that. If they believe that, they would

607
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: call it differently. Now, don't get mad at me, don't

608
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of arguing with these fans. That's what

609
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the tape says. That's not what I'm like. I'm saying

610
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: what the tape saying. If he was throwing the ball

611
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: forty five times and running at twenty five and saying, hey,

612
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: you know we're trying to do all this and he's

613
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: getting sacked or you know, make mistakes, then I would say, hey,

614
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's calling the plays for your quarterback. He's

615
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: just you know, it's just not working out, or he's

616
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: not calling the right plays, or they're making mistakes. He

617
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: doesn't trust him. He doesn't trust him, and he doesn't

618
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: want to put it in his hands to lose it.

619
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: You're paying him a lot of money to throw it

620
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: twenty one times four one hundred and thirty nine yards.

621
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: And if we look at the game before, if we

622
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: look at the game before, and that's what I'm going

623
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: to do, I want to go back because I want

624
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: to get the stats right, and I want to debate

625
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: these people anymore, because it's getting frustrated because these it's

626
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: it's average after average after average after average, and I'm

627
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and I'm being told that I'm doing I'm saying something crazy.

628
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: He was thirteen for twenty four for one seventy four

629
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: and two touchdown passes against that against the Giants. It's

630
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: not a crazy game. I thought, a we're earth shattering game.

631
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: This this Giants defense isn't the best in the world.

632
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: And then if we go back again another game he

633
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: played the Philadelphia Eagles, a game that you was a

634
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: rematch up the playoff game from last year. He was

635
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: twenty of thirty six for one seventy six, no touchdowns,

636
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: no interceptions. I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. There's those aren't

637
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: earth shattering. And the same thing that can make you

638
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: laugh can make you cry. Every the Green Bay Packers,

639
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: everybody eats. It's the same thing the Buffalo Bills are saying,

640
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: everybody eats. We got all these group receivers. We can

641
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: just spread it around in know who the best receiver around.

642
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: How's it working out? Is working? Is it working for you?

643
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Speaker 1: You think it's the good strategy steal? Is it working

644
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills? No, because it doesn't work. You

645
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: have to have a big doll, not a bunch of

646
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: little dolls. Big dogs. And if you don't have a

647
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: big dog, there's no fear of the defense from anything

648
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you're doing offensively. Whether you have a big dog in

649
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: the backfield or a big dog on the outside, it's

650
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Speaker 1: going to be tough for you to take the next

651
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Speaker 1: step offensively until you have a big doll. Get a

652
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Speaker 1: big doll. And last time you went to the NFC Championship,

653
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Davonte Adams was there, big dog. Yep, that's how you

654
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: got there, big doll. A guy that.

655
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Speaker 2: It's the same reason Aaron Rodgers left. There was Davante

656
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Adams and nobody else, right, And that was his chief complaint,

657
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Speaker 2: What are we doing not helping our offense? Richard Jordan

658
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Loves making fifty five million dollars a year? Am I right?

659
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Right?

660
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: He completed the ball fourteen times today. If my math

661
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: serves me correct, every completion is worth two hundred and

662
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: thirty one thousand dollars this game. He makes over three

663
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: point two million dollars a game. I would expect a

664
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Speaker 2: lot more from my quarterback than fourteen completions. I could

665
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: break down the numbers further, but I don't want to

666
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: whip out a calculator too many times. He only had

667
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: a one hundred and thirty nine yard passing And I

668
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: get it. They were up all game. They were playing

669
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: this low Lea Vikings team. But my goodness, I'm with you.

670
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: Jordan Love you'd expect more. I think he's a good player.

671
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: But this brings us back to the Sam Donald conversation.

672
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Speaker 2: Who would you rather have on your team money? Aside

673
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: Sam Donald or Jordan Love, I'd rather have Sam Donald.

674
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Speaker 2: Then you factor in a fifteen million dollar discount on

675
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: top of that. I'm sorry. I'm with you, Richard. I

676
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: think the Green Bay Packers are good. I don't think

677
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: they're great. And until they add two weapons to this

678
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: team to help accelerate Jordan Love's development, I think that's

679
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: where they're going to be for a while.

680
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: But that's what they tried to do, and they tried

681
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: to Matthew Golden. They drafted him in the first round.

682
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: They got Christian Watson, who's getting healthy. Sure, they lose

683
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft, they lost Tucker Kraft. But Tucker Craft was

684
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: having a great season because he was turning a little

685
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: bit into a lot. He was turning check downs into

686
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: big gains and touchdowns. It wasn't like Tucker Craft was

687
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: just down the field running big time wouts all the

688
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: time and catching all these down the field passes. He

689
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: was turning yak yards into a lot. But when you

690
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: pay a quarterback that amount of money, he has to

691
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: be a difference maker, never a guy that you have

692
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: to protect. If you're paying a guy that much money

693
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: and you have to protect him with the run game,

694
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: you have to say, hey, we don't want to we're up.

695
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: We don't want to throw that much. Could you imagine

696
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs being like, and the chief don't pay Patrick

697
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: Mahomes that much. So that's the whole story for a

698
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: different day. But Joe Burrow being up, you know, two

699
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: touchdowns and be like, hey, we can't throw too much more.

700
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: We don't want to put him in harm's way. What

701
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: what do you mean you don't want to You don't

702
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: want to put him in harm's way? Throw the ball?

703
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Why if we don't need to throw it with him,

704
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: why do we have it? That's the questions you got

705
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: to be asking yourself. Green Bay Packers fin can with

706
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: this team. If you didn't have Jordan Love and you

707
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: replaced him with just above average quarterback play, let's take

708
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: names out of it. Above average quarterback play? Would it

709
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: be Willis? Malik Willis Malik Willis comes in and spells

710
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Love from time to time has played solid football

711
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: because the floor can draw it up. But if you

712
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: put somebody else in there. Let's let's go down the

713
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: list of quarterbacks that I guess would would fit that

714
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: that that category up above average quarterback play. I mean,

715
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Speaker 1: I guess we just go through the guys weren't making

716
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: fifty plus million? If you if you put if you

717
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: put Herbert in there, is that your boy?

718
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: Your boy Trevor Lawrence?

719
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: If you put Trevor Lawrence in there? Sure? Sure? Are

720
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: they a worst team? Are they still as the record

721
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the same? I don't know. I really don't like Baker Mayfield.

722
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's playing at a high level. If you put

723
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in there, but he's not making fifty five million.

724
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: If you put Baker Mayfield on this team, are they

725
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: a better team? Potentially? That's the concerning part. Potentially. That's

726
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: the thing that I do not like about this Green

727
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Bay Packers team. Their defense, Yes, they got after it today.

728
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons was double team and making sacks on the play.

729
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Their defense was getting after it. They sacked the quarterback,

730
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: They intercepted JJ McCarthy twice. They looked the part. Good

731
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: job from Jeff Hafley, who will be a head coach

732
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: candidate this season. I hope he gets a job because

733
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: he's a good friend of mine. I think he's doing

734
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: an outstanding job with his defense, and he's an outstanding

735
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: leader of men. But for the fans to keep turning

736
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: on these coaches, because these quarterbacks aren't who these fans

737
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: believe them to be, it's just laughable and and I

738
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: almost wish they would get the realities that they hoped

739
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: for so that they could see that it is your eyes,

740
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: this evening you not these coaches. These coaches aren't just

741
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: calling these plays because they're like, I want to hold

742
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: this guy back. I highly doubt Matt Lafleur is going

743
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: into this like I don't want I don't want to

744
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: make Jordan Love look too good. He's gonna outshine me.

745
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: That's not what he's doing. He's like, how what do

746
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I have to do so that the Green Bay Packers

747
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: walk out of here with the win today? And that's

748
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: what he's doing, whether you like it or not. And

749
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell on the other side, Minnesota Vikings fan, you

750
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: can do a lot worse this. The thing that may

751
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: cost Kevin O'Connell his job is the decision to walk

752
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: away from Sam Donald and play JJ McCarthy, and I

753
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: said it before. It was a mistake, and I don't

754
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: want to keep I don't want to keep beating a

755
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: dead horse because it's not fair to JJ McCarthy. But

756
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: he's been put in an unfair situation, which I said,

757
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: when you go in and you have a fourteen and

758
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: three season and your fans start to start to flirt

759
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: with the idea of winning a Super Bowl, they start

760
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: flirting with it, Mitchell, and then that quarterback struggles in

761
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: the playoff game and they go home early. They have

762
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: such negative thoughts about that quarterback because of how it ended,

763
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: and they say, man, we need somebody to take us

764
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: to the next level. They're so desperate to get to

765
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: the next level that they take five steps back and

766
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: they don't even realize it because they think different is better.

767
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: They don't think better is better. They think different is better.

768
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: So they find hope in different instead of understanding. Hey,

769
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, that's been put in a tough situation with

770
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: an offensive line that was struggling all season long. He

771
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: got pressured, he didn't play a good game, he got

772
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: beat by a better team. Come back, revamp your offensive line.

773
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Work on that, because that's the reason why he was

774
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: under such dress and go at it again and let

775
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: your young quarterback who you drafted in the first round develop,

776
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: but you thought different was better. So now you've got

777
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: a young quarterback with unrealistic expectations from the team, from

778
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: the fans, no matter how much they screen patient's patients,

779
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: just be patient with the kid. You have unrealistic expectations,

780
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and then you have unrealistic expectations of an offensive line

781
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: that you try to improve. Now you've lost Darasol, who

782
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: was arguably your best best offensive lineman. You're gonna put

783
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: this quarterback behind a patchwork offensive line now that Sam

784
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Darnold had to deal with all season last year and

785
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: turn it into fourteen wins. But now they're the problem,

786
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: and that's the reason the quarterback's not developing. And now

787
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell doesn't know how to call a game when

788
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: he's protecting a young quarterback from having a worse outing

789
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: than he would have if he didn't protect him, because

790
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't want you guys jumping down his throat. And

791
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: all I'm saying in this is he's not playing well enough,

792
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: and he wasn't going to play well enough in the

793
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: first place. There was nothing that he did at Michigan.

794
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Just because he won a national championship does not mean

795
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: he's an NFL starting caliber quarterback. I'm sorry that quarterbacks

796
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: have won national championships and not been nothing. And then

797
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: you could do the Tom Brady comparison all you want,

798
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady got taken in the sixth, not top ten.

799
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: He wasn't productive in that way. He played well enough

800
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: in big games. He did not turn the ball over,

801
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: he did not throw the game away so that Michigan

802
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: won the national championship. He's a fine human being, I'm sure,

803
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: but we're talking about the football player, and the football

804
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: player is not prepared for this moment. So no matter

805
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: what you guys want to say, that's the truth of

806
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: the matter. And he could have benefited from another year

807
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: of sitting behind an NFL quarterback, which Sam Donald has

808
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: proven himself to be and it is continuing to prove

809
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: himself to be in Seattle. They're now eight and three.

810
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: So that's the part that's frustrating to me, is that

811
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: everybody's turning on these coaches when when we were just

812
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: talking about Kevin O'Connell being the quarterback whisper him and

813
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Shanahan are the guys that turn quarterbacks who

814
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: nobody wanted into cinderellas. But now they're saying, oh, he's

815
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: not good enough. He doesn't make good enough decisions in coaching,

816
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Like he made the decision. Who made the decision to

817
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: go from Donald to Was that a team decision? Who

818
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: did that? You know? Because you go from fourteen wins

819
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: to potentially pick it in the top ten of his draft?

820
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: Richard, they got greedy. Bottom line, they looked at money.

821
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: They said, do we pay Sam Donald this amount of money?

822
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: Do we get a rookie contract or a quarterback on

823
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: a rookie contract and run this thing out for the

824
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: next four years and then we're on our super Bowl.

825
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Though they got greedy, fourteen and three wasn't good enough,

826
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: Like you said, different was better in their eyes. I

827
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 2: love that analogy, and unfortunately for the Vikings, it's gonna

828
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: take a while from them to regroup and reload. If

829
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's looking like this, let's stay in the NFC North, Richard.

830
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: These Chicago Bears are eight and three under Ben Johnson.

831
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: That is wild expected after the shellacking they took in

832
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: Detroit losing by twenty plus points given a fifty two

833
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: points in Ford Field. They've gone on this absolute unbelievable run.

834
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: Capped off with a three point win against the Pittsburgh

835
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: Steelers today. And I know the Steelers, you know, aren't

836
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: the best team in the world, but they're competitive, especially

837
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. The Chicago Bears

838
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: give up a defensive touchdown JJ Wild with a great

839
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: stripsack in the end zone, and the Steelers looked like

840
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: they were gonna win this thing. And kudos to Caleb Williams.

841
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's taken a lot of heat.

842
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: He's in a strong market in Chicago, but he's risen

843
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: to the occasion. Two d and thirty nine yards, three touchdowns.

844
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, DJ Moore had a nice game with two touchdowns.

845
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: They drafted Kyle Mnung guy out of Rutgers. Who's who's

846
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: really looked like that that hammer that they need running

847
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: between the tackles. What what do you think of the

848
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears team eight and three? Do you think that

849
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: they are, you know, legitimate contenders in the NFC or

850
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: they just a feel good story.

851
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's so hard to gauge who they are because

852
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: they so many of these games they've started all so

853
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: slow and made fourth quarter comebacks and battled back and

854
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: just scratched it and call out their way. But eleven

855
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: games in there, eight and three, and we get to

856
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: have them this week week. We get to have them

857
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: this week, our next week Friday on the Black Friday

858
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: game against the Philadelphia Eagles. That'll let that'll tell the

859
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: story going against the raigning Super Bowl champs. You're eight

860
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: and three Philadelphi for everything they've done this season, looks

861
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: like they'll win this game. They're blowing up Dallas Cowboys

862
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: out twenty one nothing right now, they got a chance

863
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: next week to prove it versus the raigning Super Bowl champs,

864
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: who've been having a really strong season of their own.

865
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: Could be a potential eight, you know, eight and three

866
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: team versus a nine to two team, which is an

867
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: incredible matchup late in this season. And we'll see. Because

868
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has one of his better games this season,

869
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: nineteen to thirty five, two thirty nine, three touchdowns. He

870
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: did have the fumble, but Manung Guy twelve carries forty

871
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: eight yards in a touchdown. Dj Moore two touchdowns in

872
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the game. Believe it or not, they're first in your

873
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: NFC North and they're looking like one of the most

874
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: consistent teams. I mean they're winning now. I can't say

875
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the most consistent team because nobody's consistent, but the fact

876
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: that they're in it in there and they're and they're developing,

877
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: and they're finding ways to win and close out ball games.

878
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: They're building winning habits in Ben Johnson's first year, and

879
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: that's what you want to see if you're a Chicago

880
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: Bears fan. I'm sure they're tired of getting a heart

881
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: attack every game. But if you're going to get a

882
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: heart attack every game and come out with a win,

883
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: they can live with it. And they got another win

884
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: Soldier Field. Obviously, the Steelers were without the Hall of famer.

885
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: They were without the Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers, but

886
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: who knows when he's gonna come back. And Mason Rudolph

887
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty one one one, one touchdown, one interception,

888
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: fum with the football. Kenneth Gainwell had had an incredible

889
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: play on a fake push push that was a really

890
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: really cool play and I think more more teams are

891
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: going to find ways to run similar versions of that

892
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: play because it was so effective. But that defense had

893
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: played well the last few games, and they didn't play well.

894
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, Caleb Williams had his way. So I think

895
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: the Bears believe they can play with anybody. We'll see

896
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: how true that is, but they've found a way and

897
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I look forward to them playing the Eagles and then

898
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, and after those two games, we'll

899
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: have another conversation about if they're truly the legitimate contenders,

900
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: because those two teams they're gonna play in the next

901
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: two weeks are legitimate contenders. And the Steelers are going

902
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: to have to find a way to beat the Buffalo

903
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Bills and beat the Baltimore Ravens, both teams fighting for

904
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: their playoff lives. That's why I love this end of

905
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: the season because so many things can happen.

906
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: You know who the Chicago Bears played the last week at.

907
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: The season, Richard did Detroit Lions.

908
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: They sure do. These NFL scriptwriters have it have it down, Pat.

909
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean, before we leave this game, if I were

910
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: to tell you that the Chicago Bears would be eight

911
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: and three under Ben Johnson in his first year, how

912
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: shocked would you have been? At the beginning of the season.

913
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I'd be really shocked. I'd be really shocked, man. So

914
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, my shock level

915
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: will be at a seven point seven because usually in

916
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the first year, after a team struggles the way they

917
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: did last year, you're not expecting them to know how

918
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: to win games, to know how to close out games.

919
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Especially in a strong division like the NFC North. You're thinking, hey,

920
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: three of these teams won what twelve games last year,

921
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: or so three playoff teams you got. The Minnesota Vikings

922
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: won fourteen games. The Detroit Lions looked like a juggernaut.

923
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers get Micah Parsons and look like

924
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: the freaking it look like a team that that's worn

925
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: to go to a super Bowl, and then you look

926
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: up in it. In eleven games in the Bears are

927
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: at the top of the division. You would have colored

928
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: me crazy.

929
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about another team that has shocked the world

930
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: this year. The New England Patriots are now ten and two.

931
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: Richard defeating the Cincinnati Bengals. The expectation was THEMT for

932
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 2: to win this game, and it came down to the wires.

933
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: Since he had the ball late in the red zone.

934
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Could have had an opportunity to score and go ahead

935
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: for the win. Credit to Drake May and this New

936
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: England Patriots team. They got down early. It was similar

937
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: to the Lions game, got down early, gave up a

938
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: pick six. I believe they were down ten points early

939
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: on and they came back took care of the Bengals

940
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: who were without Jamar Chase. Your thoughts on this New

941
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: England Patriots team. They were tested over the last couple

942
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: weeks with better opponents and they're going to be playing

943
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: the Giants next week. Their schedule is just kind of soft.

944
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe this team is a true AFC contender?

945
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: I believe they sit as the number one seed right now,

946
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken.

947
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I think they're the only ten win team out there.

948
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: And that's the biggest part. They're the only ten win

949
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: team in the NFL right now. And so yeah, give them,

950
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: give them all the criticism you want for having a schedule,

951
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: but that's not in their control. If we're going to

952
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: criticize and criticize them for the things that are in

953
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: their control, but there is not a lot to criticize

954
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: this team about because they're winning and every big test

955
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: they've had, whether it's the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo, they've passed.

956
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: They beat the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. They beat the

957
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers in offense that you expected to be

958
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: able to challenge these guys and challenge Mike Rabels defense,

959
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: even the Bengals. The Bengals Flacco has been lighting it

960
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: up this year. Obviously, they're without Jamar Chase and because

961
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: of the suspension for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, they lost

962
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: t Higgins in the game. They lost a lot of

963
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: players in this game. But give the Patriots credit. They

964
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: are winning and the culture and the way Mike Rabel

965
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: is winning and the way that he's he's speaking confidence

966
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: in his players, all these cast offs you have on

967
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: his defense, the way Christian Gonzalez is playing, the way

968
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: all these guys are playing. You got guys like Chase

969
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: On who was a former first round pick that uh

970
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: the the Jacksonville Jaguars let go and let walk away.

971
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: You got you got guys that that have played other

972
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: places and been let go and they came here and

973
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: Mike Grabel gave him a shot. He's he's only playing

974
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: with guys who have bought into his culture. He said

975
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: that that's the reason they traded away Keon White to

976
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers, and these guys. You

977
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: could see it after every game, after every win or loss,

978
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: he's given a hug to every single player as they

979
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: entered the locker room. He's not he's not he's not

980
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: just talking to talk. He's walking the walk. He's out there.

981
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: Guys understand. They respect how how how high of a

982
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: standard he holds his team to. And I think that's

983
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the important part. That's the part of football that's beyond

984
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: x'es and O's being a motivator, being a leader of men,

985
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: being a person that can take clay and mold it

986
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: into something special, that can take a man and and

987
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: really push him to achieve his highest peak potential. And

988
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: that's what I think Mike Rabel is getting. And that's

989
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: the part of the New England Patriots that I can

990
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: believe in, is that these players believe something that the

991
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: rest of the world does not. They believe they're super

992
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders. And if they can and if Mike Rabel

993
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: is getting these men to believe that each and every week,

994
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: they're going to be a tough out in the playoffs,

995
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: because it's tough to believe and get a team to

996
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: believe something that they don't like. It's tough to tell

997
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: them that they can't be champions when they believe they

998
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: can and they go out their work and they've seen

999
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: this this formula work out of twelve weeks, they've seen

1000
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: it work ten times. And Drake May hearing MVP chance

1001
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: this season in every stadium he's gone to. That means something.

1002
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: A guy who's developing into an elite quarterback in the

1003
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: National Football League before your eyes. They they're starting to

1004
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: develop a run game. Hunter. Henry has his best game

1005
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: of the season. Seven catches for one hundred and fifteen

1006
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown, the defense and interception in the sack.

1007
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: They've won nine games straight for the first time since

1008
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. When you know who was playing quarterback then,

1009
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: the same guy who played quarterback in New England for

1010
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of decades before everything kind of fell apart.

1011
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to root against this team, Mitchell.

1012
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: They got the Baltimore Ravens, I mean, they got the

1013
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: New York Giants Knicks, and you, of all people can

1014
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: speak to that team and how you know, the record

1015
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: doesn't speak to how good of a team that is

1016
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and how much of a challenge that's going to be.

1017
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: But I think the Patriots gonna feel good. They're gonna

1018
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: be favored in that game.

1019
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: No question about it. If they keep at this pace, Richard,

1020
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: they're going to get the one seed and then they're

1021
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: going to be able to prove to the world whether

1022
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: they truly belong or not. I mean, Cam Newton called

1023
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: the Patriots run fooled scold, and I think that's easy

1024
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: on its surface to say that based on the schedule,

1025
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: but the reality is, I mean this team, coming from

1026
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: who they were the last couple of years to who

1027
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: they are now, I don't think you can call it

1028
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: fools gold. I think this team has showed showed true toughness, resilience,

1029
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: and Mike vrabel is at the forefront of that. Like

1030
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: you said, I'm a believer in the Patriots, whether it's

1031
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: this year or not, I think they're gonna be in

1032
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: that true contender category for the next five to ten

1033
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: years as long as Drake May's around. They found themselves

1034
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: a real one at quarterback and they've got a great

1035
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: head coach. I'm loving what I'm seeing in New England.

1036
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens.

1037
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Let me let me just on Cam Newton's fools goal,

1038
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: because it's it's I like Cam Newton. I like what

1039
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: he's been able to manufacture in his post playing career.

1040
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a good analyst and he does

1041
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: some really fun things. But fools Gold is just such

1042
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: a lazy and short sighted take. You know, It's like, oh,

1043
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: they had an easy record, so they're not playing well.

1044
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Like I need context, I need I need you to

1045
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: help me understand. If you told me the Bears were

1046
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: fools Gold, I'd say, I don't know about that, but

1047
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I could see you say, hey, they were down in

1048
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: the majority of their games. They were losing the majority

1049
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: of their games. Sure, they found a way to come back,

1050
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: but is that sustainable in the playoffs. I'm not sure.

1051
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: We'll see, but I want to see. I wish he

1052
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: would would have expounded on what about them as fools go?

1053
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: Is it just because you don't think they're talented enough

1054
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: team and that their easy record is has has been

1055
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: a mirage, and so their their their wins are a mirage,

1056
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Like this is a National Football League and this this season,

1057
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: more than any season in recent memory, has shown parody

1058
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Anybody can beat anybody. We

1059
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: watched the Miami Dolphins beat the Buffalo Bills, we watched

1060
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: the bank we watched the Giants beat the Philadelphia Eagles,

1061
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: like anything can happen on any given Sunday in the

1062
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: National Football League, especially this year. So when he says

1063
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: it's fools gold, it's hard for me to support worth

1064
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: that without context, without you saying that, hey, fundamentally they're

1065
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: flawed because of this. They're playing good defense, they're playing

1066
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: sound defense. Offensively, Drake may is playing really good football.

1067
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: It's not like, hey, they're getting a lot of tip

1068
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: passes and he's just getting lucky lucky play here and

1069
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: there are they're living off yat or something like that.

1070
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: They're playing in a sustainable way, in a way that

1071
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: you can sustain and playoff football. So I when he

1072
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: says the fools going, I just can't. I don't see

1073
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: it that way.

1074
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: And not to mention, they got Treyvon Henderson, the rookie

1075
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: running back at Ohio State, who's really come on the

1076
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. They now have a ground game

1077
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: to back Drake May. So I'm with you, Richard. I

1078
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: like the Pats, and we'll see how they do the

1079
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: rest of the season. We'll see how they fare against

1080
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: you know, true competition, if that's what Cam Newton wants

1081
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: to see. But now let's talk about this Ravens team.

1082
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: They started the season off one in five. A lot

1083
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: of people, including myself, were wondering if they were out,

1084
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: they were gonna lose this division. I thought there was

1085
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: too bunch to overcome. That didn't take long. Five weeks

1086
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: later and they're now back on top of the AFC North.

1087
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: That did not take long at all. I know this

1088
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 2: is an easy question to answer, but is it safe

1089
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: to say that the Baltimore Ravens are gonna win this division?

1090
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: Now? I don't know. No, it's not safe to say

1091
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: nothing's safe in the National Football League right now. So no,

1092
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: it's not safe to say they're gonna win AFC North

1093
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: regardless of how well they've played five straight. Congratulations, that's

1094
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: really great. But their next game is the the Cincinnati Bengals,

1095
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: and then they played the Pittsburgh Steelers. They control their

1096
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: own destiny. Now, can they go in there and beat

1097
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 1: the Bengals? And beat the Steelers. Sure, can they lose

1098
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: to the Steelers and lose to the Bengals. It wouldn't

1099
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: surprise me either way. This is gonna be a struggle

1100
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season for a lot of teams.

1101
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a grind. I don't think there's any

1102
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: givens right now for any team. So I'm looking forward

1103
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: to the way this plays out because there's no predicting anything.

1104
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: If it was predictable, then you know people wouldn't watch

1105
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and the way they do. I think the

1106
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: reason the ratings are breaking records is because every team,

1107
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: in every game, you feel like they have a chance. Sure,

1108
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: there are some blowouts, there are some games that get

1109
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: out of hand early, but for the most part this season,

1110
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: even teams that seem overmatched are undermanned in these games,

1111
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: go out there and compete and potentially upset the other team.

1112
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know, because do the Bengals show up

1113
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: in a big way and throw our does Flaco turn

1114
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: the ball over? Or are they going to play against

1115
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: Are they gonna play against Joe Burrow? Is he gonna

1116
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: make his debut versus the Baltimore Ravens. There are so

1117
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: many different storylines and teams haven't given up on the season,

1118
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: so the Ravens should be proud of what they've done.

1119
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: But there were some plays. Obviously there's some rust still

1120
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: being knocked off for Lamar Jackson thirteen to twenty three

1121
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: for one fifty three. He didn't look phenomenal fantastic in

1122
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: this game by any stretch of the imagination. Sure they

1123
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: won the game because their defense forced to fumble, got

1124
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: three sacks, another interception. They played well enough and put

1125
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: enough pressure on the Jets and Tyrod Taylor to win

1126
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: this game. But this is the Jets. They've won two

1127
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: games on the season. They haven't looked great the entire season.

1128
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: They traded away their two best players at the trade deadline,

1129
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: so I don't even know if this is a barometer

1130
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: for what the Ravens can be. And I'm not sure

1131
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: the Ravens. You know, with the Jamar Chase being back,

1132
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: they'll be different, and potentially Joe Burrow being back, they'll

1133
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: make it a game, no question about it. But no,

1134
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't think you can count this this division done

1135
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: at all. What a day metro for Shador Sanders. He

1136
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: gets his first start and obviously perfect time and that

1137
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: perfect time. I don't know if you heard the song, Metell,

1138
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: but they were playing it during the broadcast Perfect time,

1139
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: and it gotta feel good to have your own song playing.

1140
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Why you playing your Hall of Fame dad in the

1141
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: stands watching you ball out? Had a number of explosive

1142
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: passes in the game. Did throw an interception that he's

1143
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna want back, an easy play to fix. He didn't

1144
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: look off the hook defender, the buzzer buzzer hook or

1145
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him, but he didn't look

1146
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: him to the flat guy read his eyes threw it

1147
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: right to him, But that can be corrected. They the

1148
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: Browns did some weird things in the game with Judkins.

1149
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean it worked out. He got two touchdowns in

1150
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: the game, but a lot of wildcat taking the quarterback

1151
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: off the field. Most quarterbacks get pretty frustrated with that.

1152
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: But shir Door Sanders was eleven or twenty two oh nine,

1153
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown, an interception, and was only sacked once. He

1154
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: had a screen pass that went for about sixty yards

1155
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: to Samson. Jerry Judy caught one of his explosive passes

1156
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: and just looked way too nonchalant fumble to football Miles Garrett.

1157
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Though Miles Garrett breaks the single season sack record for

1158
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: the the Cleveland Browns with seventeen, he ended up with eighteen.

1159
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: His eighteen getting his eighteenth sack. He had three sacks,

1160
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: two forced fumbles. The defense had ten sacks in the game.

1161
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean they beat they beat poor Gino up in

1162
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: this game. It Gino was twenty seven to forty one,

1163
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: eight touchdown but sacked ten times. I mean, he's gonna

1164
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: be a nice tub all next week, I would imagine.

1165
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: But if you're a Browns fan, if you're a suardor fan,

1166
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a chardor enthusiast, because there's only

1167
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, so he's so polarizing. I think, I guess

1168
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: the subject of Chador is so polarizing that you're either

1169
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: you love him and you'll support him no matter what,

1170
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: or you're waiting for him to fail and everything you're

1171
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: critical of and you think he's bad and you're waiting

1172
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: for him to make the big mistake, and you don't

1173
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: think this is good enough to start for the Browns,

1174
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: and you think that they should start Dylan Gaber or

1175
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: whenever he gets healthy enough to play. But if I'm

1176
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in up semi objectively, because I mean,

1177
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm not objective. I'm a Dion fan, so I'm a

1178
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: Chadora fan. I was watching him at Colorado, but I

1179
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: can see it if he played back why you wouldn't

1180
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: want him to play. But it just seemed like he

1181
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: brought a different element to the team. You could just

1182
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: see it on Miles garrett face when he completed the

1183
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: long pass that should have been a touchdown that led

1184
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: to their second touchdown of the game. He just he

1185
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: was in disbelief. And I mean, you're talking about Miles

1186
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: Garrett being in disbelief, It's crazy. But I feel like

1187
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: the team played inspired football. They played with hope, They

1188
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: played excited. They were excited to be out there. Not

1189
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: that the Browns, being three and eight, have much of

1190
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: anything to play for, but I definitely think this earned

1191
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders another start, no question about that. I think

1192
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: you get better with reps, and he needs more reps.

1193
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: He needs to get out there, he needs to take

1194
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: his chances. It looks like he's just he really wants

1195
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field every single chance

1196
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: he gets. They protected him pretty well, Jerry Judy is

1197
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to not fumble the ball in that situation

1198
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: so he can continue drives. Judkins gonna continue the success

1199
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: he's had and who knows. The Browns play the forty

1200
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: nine Ers next. That's a big game for both sides,

1201
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: a game the forty nine ers are gonna need to have.

1202
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: They played a Carolina Panthers tomorrow, as we know, which

1203
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: is a huge game. If they can win that game,

1204
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna gonna end up being a really, really

1205
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: pivotal game for them, and they'll have to deal with

1206
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders and all that means. So I'll say this,

1207
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: congratulations to Shador Sanders on his first NFL touchdown. Even

1208
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: if it's a screen that goes for sixty yards, Hey,

1209
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: you get it. How you live it up being a

1210
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: sixty yard pass, four touchdown, fun game for him. I

1211
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him. It's exciting when he's part

1212
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: of the game and he's part of the discussion. Whether

1213
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: you love him or hate him, it's good for football

1214
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: and it's good for the Browns. And the Browns get

1215
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: their third win of the season against the Raiders, who

1216
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: will continue to struggle look like they're gonna pick top

1217
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: three in the draft this year, no question about that.

1218
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't fire my guy, Pete Carroll. Please don't

1219
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: fire him. Please don't fire Pete. It ain't his faun,

1220
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: it's not a great team. I'm biased.

1221
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, Richard. Don't fire Pete. Don't put him,

1222
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, don't make him the sacrificial lamb out there, Richard.

1223
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: Before we leave this game, we got to talk about

1224
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. You said it, franchise record best eighteen sacks

1225
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: through eleven games. He's on pace for almost twenty eight

1226
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: sacks this season.

1227
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: Richard.

1228
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: That is mind boggling. Where does he stack up in

1229
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: your mind against the all time pass rushers in this league?

1230
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: Is he nearing the top the list at this point?

1231
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if he goes and gets twenty eight sacks

1232
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: this season, he's gonna he's gonna make the name. He's

1233
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna make the decision easier for a lot of people.

1234
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: And again, I hate the whole conversation about who's the

1235
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: best of all time when I didn't watch the other

1236
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: guys play, and I'm not gonna give not that those

1237
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: other guys weren't great, and Reggie White and obviously Lawrence

1238
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: weren't great players, but I didn't get to watch them,

1239
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, and so I can say recognize their greatness

1240
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: and how everybody else the esteem they're talked about and

1241
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: things like that, but I didn't get to watch him play.

1242
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: And so the guy I'm watching play the SAC record,

1243
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: I think it is twenty two maybe twenty two and

1244
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: a half. I think JJ Watt tied it one year.

1245
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: And so if Miles Garrett beats it by five and

1246
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: a half sacks, that, I mean, that's silly territory on

1247
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: a team that's rarely leading. Usually you get that if

1248
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: the teams you know, your team's always up, and you

1249
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: get the pass rush every game, and you get the

1250
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Mitchell his team's always in a dogfight or they're losing.

1251
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: It's rare time, really, a time when Miles Garrett is

1252
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: just getting to pin his ears back. Hey we're up

1253
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, let's go after him. They got a pass

1254
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: obvious pass situations. But he's just one of the most

1255
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: dominant players in the National Football League, in the history

1256
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. So you tell me, Mitchell,

1257
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: you tell me. I guess time will tell. But he's

1258
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: obviously one of the best to ever played this game.

1259
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: No question about it. And then finally, Richard, we had

1260
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: a lot of good games today, but this one might

1261
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: have been one of the best of them. Dallas, down

1262
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: twenty one in the first half, comes back in shocking

1263
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: fashion and upsets Philly twenty four to twenty one with

1264
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: a walk off Brandon Aubrey field goal to end the game. Richard,

1265
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: these Cowboys look a lot better than they have in

1266
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. George Pickens looks like he's got

1267
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl season brewing, Javonte Williams career resurgence in Dallas,

1268
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott looks like he's having fun out there again.

1269
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are five to five and one right now,

1270
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: and it seems Jerry Jones's mid season trade has helped

1271
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: this team. Are you starting to see the light with

1272
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: Jerry's moves right now?

1273
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, you can see. You can see the vision,

1274
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: no question about it. But I guess the big story

1275
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: is the offense. You got to give the defense credit.

1276
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: They did not allow the Philadelphia Eagles to score a

1277
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: point in the second half. That should be applauded, that

1278
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: should be celebrated. That's a huge deal. For the Super

1279
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: Bowl champs, not to score point in the second half.

1280
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: But the offense you're talking about, George Pickens, you're talking

1281
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: about a Pro Bowl caliber season. I'd be really surprised

1282
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: if he's not a Pro Bowler, and maybe he'd get

1283
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: a couple of All Pro votes just because it's it's

1284
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, it's one of the biggest markets in

1285
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: the world. He's playing really good football, He's playing good

1286
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: in big moments, and if this team can can scratch

1287
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: and claw their way back into playoff contention, that'd be huge.

1288
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott twenty three to thirty six, three fifty four,

1289
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He did have the one interception, but again,

1290
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: this is what Dak Prescott is capable of. The concerning

1291
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: part for the Dallas Cowboys honestly has been Ceedee Lamb

1292
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: and them able to have this success. With Ceedee Lamb

1293
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: having seven registered drops in the last two games, he

1294
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: had three in this game, including one and the end.

1295
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: So so them being able to overcome those those issues

1296
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: and play as well as they have, especially in the

1297
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: second half, and able to capture this momentum against the

1298
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: reigning Super Bowl champs, the division rival in Dallas. You

1299
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: could hear the fans into it the entire game. A

1300
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: season that looked like it was lost early on, it's

1301
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: starting to look like it may you know, they may

1302
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: have a chance. We'll see how it continues to progress.

1303
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: But for the Philadelphia Eagles, this game started off as

1304
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: a dream scenario and then slowly but surely deteriorated. You

1305
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: look up and you say, Aj Brown has been really frustrated.

1306
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: They got him involved early. He had a touchdown early on,

1307
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: got his yardage end up with eight catches for one

1308
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards in a touchdown. You feel really

1309
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: good about that. You felt really good about how much

1310
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: they got Aj Brown involved. Againe Kwan Barkley non existent.

1311
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: Ten carries for twenty two yards. That doesn't make a

1312
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And that has to be soft.

1313
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: Is it?

1314
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: The offensive line? You got to give Dallas credit because

1315
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: they got some run stoppers. Now they got some run stoppers.

1316
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: Quinn Williams is not is not getting moved out of there.

1317
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: They're not getting moved out of there very easily. They

1318
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: got guys who can detackles that are great against the run. Stout,

1319
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean great against the run. They're stout. They can

1320
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: pass rush, but Sakwan Barkley only getting ten carries for

1321
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: twenty two yards is going to be the issue. That'll

1322
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: be the Achilles. He'll that ends and dooms the Philadelphia

1323
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Eagles this season if they do not get that corrected.

1324
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: And again, Kevin Patulo, these are questions he's gonna have

1325
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 1: to answer. When they had Kellen Moore, not that he's perfect,

1326
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: but the offense ran it hummed. You talked about Offensive

1327
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: Player of the Year Saquon Barkley, you were talking about

1328
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, his potential MVP candidate. Jalen Hurts had a

1329
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: really good game twenty seven and thirty nine to eighty nine,

1330
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He was only sacked once in a game,

1331
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: but it was a huge sack on third down by

1332
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: a DIGGI Zua played that they needed on a I

1333
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: think this was their last drive of the game, which

1334
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: allowed which forced them to punt, and I gave the

1335
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys a chance in this game to go down

1336
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: and kick the game winning field goal, which they did.

1337
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answers are, but I know

1338
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: that the Philadelphia Eagles are playing on Black Friday, and

1339
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: they got the Chicago Bears coming into town. Both teams

1340
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: are eight and three. It's got to be the game

1341
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: in a week. It's a match if I'm most excited

1342
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: for a Chicago team so eager to prove itself in

1343
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Eagles team that's got a lot of turmoil,

1344
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that this will not help what's going

1345
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: on in me Locke Room.

1346
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: No question about it. And let's be real. The number

1347
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: one seeds up for grabs at this point too in

1348
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: that game, So you know, this is a huge game

1349
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: for both teams. We talked about it off air, but

1350
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 2: the Eagles, you know, kind of fell apart in that

1351
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 2: second half of twenty one to nothing, and the Dallas

1352
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys just kind of leaned down him and leaned down him,

1353
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: and finally they broke giving up eighteen points in that

1354
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And you've expressed concerns about the D line,

1355
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: the interior of the D line for the Philadelphia Eagles,

1356
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,839
Speaker 2: and their over use, the amount of time that they're playing.

1357
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: What do you make of this? The lack of depth

1358
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: at the defensive tackle position for the Philadelphia Eagles.

1359
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: It's concerning, and in every one of their losses you

1360
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: could see that's the issue in the fourth quarter. That's

1361
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: where they give up a majority of their points because

1362
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: they're playing Davis and Carter too much. Usually, when you're

1363
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: talking about d tackles, you talk about sixty five percent

1364
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: of the plays, maybe seventy percent of the plays. There's

1365
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: a good rotation, you put other guys in there, you

1366
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: spell them sometimes, But these guys are playing a very

1367
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: high percentage of the plays for the Philadelphia Eagles, and

1368
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: they're wearing down by the fourth quarter and a lot

1369
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: of these games not because they're out of shape or

1370
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: because oh man, they're not ready for these moments. They're

1371
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: probably in the best shapes of their lives and they're

1372
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: playing at a high level for a majority of these games.

1373
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: But you cannot expect guys that big to play that much.

1374
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: It's just how it's just been proven in the NFL

1375
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: for so long. You gotta have some depth, you gotta

1376
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: rotate them in and out, allow them to get breathers,

1377
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: allow them to get rest so they can be strong

1378
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: and healthy and fresh in the fourth quarter. And that's

1379
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: not what's happening for the Philadelphia Eagles. So a lot

1380
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: of these games that you see are coming down to

1381
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: the wire and although Jalen Carter and Davis are making

1382
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: plays down a stretch, they are playing a lot of

1383
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: snaps and you cannot expect them to be as dominant

1384
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: as they would be if they had a little bit

1385
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: more rest and when they were a little fresher. But

1386
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: you can tell the Philadelphia Eagles don't trust the other

1387
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: guys that they would be bringing in, and that's why

1388
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: they're forced to play that much. Hopefully they can get

1389
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: it figured out, but again, the trade dead lines passed,

1390
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: they're on really any big time free agents I'm sure

1391
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: out there that they feel good about. So this is

1392
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: how it's gonna be. But that's right now. The biggest

1393
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: issue for the Philadelphia Eagles is they're not able to

1394
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: get the same pass r us the same stoutness against

1395
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: the run on the interior defensive line because they're so

1396
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: worn down late in these games. And you look at

1397
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos game, they scored eighteen unanswered points in

1398
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: the fourth after not after scoring i believe seven the

1399
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: entire game through three quarters. And then you look at

1400
01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: this game and the Cowboys score ten answered and going

1401
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: to win this game. And again, you gotta find a

1402
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: way to to to spell these guys and allow them

1403
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: to be fresher in the fourth quarter and also find

1404
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: some offense. All odds and lines come from our partners

1405
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: at hard Rock Bet. We've got the Panthers versus the

1406
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers on Monday Night Football tomorrow. Hard Rock

1407
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: Bet has the forty nine Ers and seven point spread

1408
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 1: in this game. I think the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

1409
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little closer than that. This is

1410
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a field goal game, Mitchell, in my opinion,

1411
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: just because of the way Bryce Young played in the

1412
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: last game, especially near the end way, he was able

1413
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: to come on the chemistry he's building with Tetraroa McMillan

1414
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: and Ricodoudo. Rico Daldo is starting to starting to show

1415
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: himself as one of as a really good runner in

1416
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: this in this league and has taken over as their

1417
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: number one back. It's gonna be a closer game than

1418
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: you want to, you might.

1419
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: Think, Richard, I can't pick a better time to debut

1420
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: this hat. Take a look at this bad boy man.

1421
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: I like that Krispy right, Chrispy, Yeah, Well, it's because

1422
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: I got the Niners winning. I got the Niners covering too.

1423
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: I know you think that it's going to be a

1424
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: tighter game. You know, within seven points. I got the

1425
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: Niners covering that spread. I also have Christian McCaffrey continuing

1426
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: his dominance, scoring the first TD of the game. Plus

1427
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: Rico Dowdle. Holy Kyle, like you said, what are resurgence

1428
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: from this guy? Cast off from the Dallas Cowboys comes

1429
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: over behind Chubba Hubbard in Carolina and has taken over

1430
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: that backfield. I think he's going to score a touchdown

1431
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 2: as well. And here's a bonus. I think Brian Robinson

1432
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: Junior gets a TD as well. I mean they've been

1433
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: giving him the ball inside that five yard line. I

1434
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: expect Brian Robinson to get another one. Carolina has given

1435
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: up thirteen red zone rushing touchdowns this year, Richard. So

1436
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: there's your helpful hint with Brian Robinson to score, Richard,

1437
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: big big news. In San Francisco, everyone was waiting for

1438
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: the comeback of Brandon Ayuk. Well, I don't think that's

1439
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 2: gonna happen. It looks like they're parting ways. How stunning

1440
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: of a move is this? Are you shocked by this

1441
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: or is this something that you saw coming?

1442
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: Metell Unfortunately, I had a little bit more inside information,

1443
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: so it's not a shocking for me, but it's shocking

1444
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: that it's going to play out this way because this

1445
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: scenario at this point the season helps nobody. And I'm

1446
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: not blaming any particular person. I'm not blaming BA, I'm

1447
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: not blaming the forty nine ers, et cetera. But I

1448
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: think BA coming back and doing his best to play

1449
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: as well as he can helps the San Francisco forty

1450
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: nine ers, and it helps Brandon Ayu. I think the

1451
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 1: position of Brandon and I you not playing anymore this

1452
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: season and the San Francisco forty nine ers now like

1453
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't help anybody. If BA doesn't play this season

1454
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: and he gets cut at the end of the year,

1455
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: that does nothing to help anybody. And I think if

1456
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't play, that's the most likely scenario. But I

1457
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,440
Speaker 1: just don't understand why that would be the case. Why

1458
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: you would make that decision as a player, And everybody

1459
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: has their own reason for reasons for doing things, But

1460
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: if you're a player and you want out, I don't

1461
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: agree with this. I don't want to help this team.

1462
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: That's understandable, but your interests are aligned Unfortunately, you doing good.

1463
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: You doing well helps the team do well. The team

1464
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: doing well and you doing well helps everybody. It helps

1465
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: increase your value so that if you do want to

1466
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: go to another team don't want to trade you, theyn't

1467
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: want to trade for you, instead of instead of you

1468
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: getting cut and your salary going away and then signing

1469
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: you to a much lower deal where you make a

1470
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: lot less money and it will take you a lot

1471
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: more time to make the same amount of money you

1472
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: would have made if you were able to just stand

1473
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: on the contract your own. So if you're Brandon Ayuk

1474
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,879
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, I don't want to help this team, okay,

1475
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: but helping them helps you. So going out there and

1476
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: being the best possible receiver you can be, showing that

1477
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: you are the receiver that you were when the San

1478
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers paid you thirty million dollars a

1479
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: year only helps your case, even if you want to

1480
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. But sitting out does not. Sitting out

1481
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: put your pride before your pocket. And if you put

1482
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: your pride before your pocket, that's something I cannot understand

1483
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: because it doesn't help your family, it doesn't help you,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't help the point you're trying to prove,

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01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: and so that's the point I don't get. I hopefully,

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: hopefully he's able to get out there and play and

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01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: show what he can do and either continue with the

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers or or get traded and

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: be able to make the money that he deserves somewhere else,

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 1: because I always want the guys to make the money

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: that they've earned, and I never want to see a

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: situation where a guy is giving money back. Well. As always, guys,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us. You could be anywhere in

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01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: the world, but you're here with us and we sure

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Speaker 1: do appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow night after the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers game. Stay tuned.