WEBVTT - What's the future hold for Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Sean Payton? 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:15.280 I'm Red Lewis and this is NFL Inside Report, hot 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.600 off the heels of the best weekend of NFL football 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.640 we've ever seen. We welcome NFL Network Inside Ian rapp 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.600 Report to the show. Tough act to follow, Ian, but 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.160 you've got a lot on your plates as well here 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.800 as you've been following the potential futures of Tom Brady 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.920 and Aaron Rodgers and Sean Payton, as well as the 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.880 coaching and GM hiring stuff all picking up. Let's start 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.760 with Tom Brady, who has now exited from the postseason 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.560 with the Bucks at the hands of the l A Rams. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.600 And this has felt different for Tom this year and 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.320 the way that he has addressed his future, right, Yeah, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.480 for me, it has. And you know these things don't 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.920 usually come with big banners, right, So, if Tom Brady 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.600 is kind of thinking about retiring, first of all, he's 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.080 not telling a lot of people. Maybe telling a couple 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.560 of people in his family, maybe someone else close to him, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.319 but not very many. So trying to get information on 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.560 it is difficult. And then it's not like, you know, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.960 he broadcast in a week sixteen like, hey, guys, f 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.120 y I asked me about if I'm coming back because 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.039 my answer might be a little different. So it's all 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.240 coming kind of code, you know. Like I was watching 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.560 the interview that Brady did with William McGinnis on the 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.560 network last Game Day Mornings. I think it was either 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.480 last Saturday or Sunday, and Willie kind of goes, oh, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.520 you know, you've said you want to play the forty five? 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.720 Does that go to fifty now? And Brady's comment is, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.800 I'm still trying to play the forty five. You wanted 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.600 to play until you were forty five. You're forty four now, 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.080 but you're leading the league in yards, you're leading the 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.080 league in touchdowns. Is that number pushed to like fifty now? Like? 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.320 Are you say, I feel great, maybe I'll go to fifty. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.240 You know, I think when I thought about that, that 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.560 was probably ten years ago, you know, and you know, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.080 I'm kind of here, so I felt like, man, that 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.640 was a that was a great goal to set, and 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.280 you know, I still had that goal of wanting to 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.800 get to forty five, so you know, we'll see how 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.680 it goes. I think I'm just pretty much an unchartered territory. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.359 And I was listening last week and I was like, huh, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.520 that's weird, like that's usually not what he says. Usually 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.440 goes I could play forever, and I'm like, so I 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.919 made a little note to that. Spoke some people close 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.919 to him this week, and as one person who've done 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.840 him forever says, it's gonna step away and take some 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.480 time and figure it out. And I talked to someone 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.639 else close to him, and this person said, it's ridiculous. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:36.600 Pretty hasn't even thought about that process going forward. People, however, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.160 play that I haven't put a lot of thought into it. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.320 So I'll just take it day by day and see 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.720 kind of see who we're at. At least to take 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.720 a wing as you came off the field, or at 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.400 any time today to think about that, to think that 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.240 this this might be the last time I'm out of here. Now, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.640 I was thinking about winning. That's kind of my mentality, 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.799 always to go out there and try to win, give 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.919 my team the best chance to win. It kind of 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.200 comes in little snippets I would say, um, but I'm 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.959 starting to get the sense he's really considering it. So 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.919 I feel like there are some parts of his situation 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.840 and the Aaron Rodgers situation that are that are have 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:20.160 some kind of similarities one. Um, I'm curious if for 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.640 Brady the structure of the team and who's actually there 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.760 next year, which is a big question mark this year, 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.200 does that have any impact for him, whereas it sounds 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.440 like it does for Rogers. And we'll get to Rodgers later. Yeah, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.520 I don't think it has anything to do with Brady. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.280 I think, you know, I think it's really just doesn't 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.160 want to play or not right. I mean, it's not 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.880 like this, you know, resigned Chris Godwin. Like, I think 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.240 it's just about him, does he want to play? And like, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.640 there's a couple of things we've learned about Brady. One 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.920 is he's not going to drop off. Like I don't 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.040 know what we were all waiting for, but like he's 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.120 not just gonna suddenly be completing fifty percent of his passes. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.400 He's still gonna be Tom Brady n til the end 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.240 of time. It's like, you know, people were all hitting 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.960 me up this week after our report of this, like 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.480 why would he retire? And I'm like, why would he 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.720 not retire? What else does he have to do? He's 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.600 forty four, he's got a family that he loves, He's 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.599 got other things like a clothing line and production company, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.400 Like he's played forever, like I don't know, like he's 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.400 won seven super Bowls. Like at some point doesn't he 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.480 go like, all right, that was awesome, Like let's try 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.760 something else. And I think that might people he is. Yeah, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.240 like when you've done an entire documentary series with each 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.119 episode being about each of the ten episodes being about 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.359 each of your ten super Bowl seasons, it's a you 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.440 don't really have a whole lot left to accomplish out there. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.720 Does this feel like something that, based on some of 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:47.200 the conversations you've had, that we will learn relatively quickly, um? 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.920 Or do you feel like this could draw out for 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.880 a little while. I think it'll probably draw for a 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.479 little bit. I mean, he's what he usually does is 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.080 go out to Montana and just kind of hang out 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.960 and I guess, I guess, gee, I don't know whatever 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.839 people doing like a horseback riding play like they're in Yellowstone. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.839 I don't know whatever people do in Montana. He's gonna 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.560 do all that and uh, you know it's doing way 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.120 you can make these decisions is by stepping back and 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.520 just letting it all kind of like washed through you, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.359 you know. Thin thing with Sean Payton going to Mexico 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.120 and just being I turned on my phone for two 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.080 weeks and see what I want to do? Um and 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.040 then so so I think Brady will get through that 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.159 and then let us know in some way, like you know, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.560 when he was leaving the Patriots, he let us know 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.320 in a Instagram post or Facebook post or something like. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.240 I would imagine either that or some sort of like 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.840 production well produced something. Um, it's got a couple of 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.600 tricks up to sleeve. I'm sure let us know. Did 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.279 we ever figure out whether he was walking into Gillette 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.000 Stadium or walking out of Gillette Stadium in that post? 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.680 Did we ever get the clarity on that? You remember 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.760 that one? I remember me and Gara Folo were trying 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.560 to track down was that real? And we were able 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.360 to get the big scoop that that was a commercial. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.800 We were like, wow, oh, thanks to be fair. Like 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.599 I've I've scoured for stupider news in my life. Yes, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.160 it's definitely not the stupidest, yes, but it's it was 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.640 pretty stupid. Yeah. You start tracking like camera crew assignments, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.599 like who's going to Tampa to work on something for 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.560 Tom Brady? Find out whether there's a retirement video in 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.560 the works. Yeah, you start tracking airplanes and that's good. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.880 That'd be good, A good way to do it. All right, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:33.239 Let's move then to Aaron Rodgers here, who basically didn't 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.359 say much after the game that they lost to the 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.400 forty niners and sent them home again very frustratingly and 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.320 disappointingly from the postseason after a phenomenal regular season. He 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.480 did say he doesn't want to be a part of 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.920 a rebuild. A lot of decisions to be made. I 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.360 don't want to be a part of a rebuild. Uh 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.720 if you know, if I'm I'm gonna keep playing, So 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.680 a lot of decisions, you know, in the next couple 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.599 of months, and said there's a lot of guys with 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.640 uncertain futures, which he also said last year. You know, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.960 there's obviously a lot of decisions to be made. There's 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.320 a lot of players that whose futures are up in 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.800 the air. Where we at right now in this whole 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.760 saga with Rogers and the Packers and a potential for 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.800 a return, I think we're where we always thought we 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.640 would be, which is, you know, his season end now. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.600 Unfortunately it's not in the soup bow, and that sucks, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.240 but and ended faster than he thought. And I think 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.360 we all thought and then don't think we'd be talking 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.280 about this after this game. It's fresh right now. It's 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:38.440 it's a little shocking for sure, definitely having you know, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.520 I was hoping to have, you know, nice week after 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.240 the Nancy Championship, to enjoy the lead up and and 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.239 then start contemplating some things. So I haven't even haven't 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.200 even let the moment really sink in yet. It was 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.720 kind of weird seeing him up there and all frustrated 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.480 and disappointed after another early playoff loss, and like you 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.360 could you know, one thing about Rogers is he really 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.000 wears it. You can see him just in pain and hurting, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.440 which is not fun, you know. But I would say 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.200 to me, we're kind of like we're where we thought 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.800 we would be. His season ended, it was disappointing. He's 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.560 gonna step back and he's going to think about it. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.200 And you know, Rogers is thirty eight years old. He 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.720 is going to consider retirement. And you know, it's kind 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.000 of like we were saying, like, you know, it never 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.520 quite ends like you want. But you know, it's like 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.440 every relationship, it's like, well, you'd hate for it to 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.040 end like that. And you know it's like if they 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.040 always say if it didn't end badly, would not end 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.480 like he just could always he's always end badly, otherwise 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.800 they would go on forever. Um, So he'll consider whether 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.800 to come back. And then you know, I was interested 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.800 a little bit in him saying that it needs to 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.800 make sure it's it's not a rebuild. So it's gonna 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.720 keep Davante, You better keep some of these guys together. Um. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 And they could do it. They got some capt manipulations 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.199 to do, but they could do it anyway. Or does 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.560 he go to them and say, hey, remember when you 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.720 verbally agreed to talk to me about potential trades, Like, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.720 let's do that. Now those are his options and honestly 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.400 don't know what he's gonna do. Yeah, So, I mean, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.080 Davante seems like a non starter to me, Like if 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.800 that doesn't happen, like I don't know that there's doesn't 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.240 feel like there's any way that he would want to 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.360 come back to a Davante Adams less Green Bay Packers 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.520 team unless there was something. No. I think he'll get 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.120 I think Devonte will get tagged. You'll get tagged. So 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.520 he'll be He'll be a Green Bay Packer next year, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.840 one way or another, whether it's on the tag or otherwise. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.280 How much of the relationship, like, is this still like 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.000 the relationship with the front office, with Gudikins, with the 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.520 personnel department. We know that he and La Fleur seemed 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.320 to get along pretty well. How much of the relationship 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:48.600 really matters here with the organization? You know, it feels 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.520 like it's better. They've listened to him a couple of 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.160 different ways, and it feels like they've kept him in 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.120 the loop pretty good. So I think that was the 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.440 question at the beginning, right, But like once he spoke, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.560 you remember, they had a lot of of they had 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.760 a lot of you know, intense conversations this offseason to 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.560 figure this out. So I think they really got to 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.160 the bottom. Like it was raw and it was kind 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.040 of ugly, and they were real truthful to each other. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.120 And it feels like they got in a really good place. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:23.280 So that's good, um, and that got better, But like, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.280 is that cutti be enough to make him want to stay? Like, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.040 I don't know, I would say this, Like they were 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.800 great this year and I know they lost, so that 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.880 was bad, but they were so good that it would 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.200 be hard for me to find him in a better place. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.120 Maybe an as good, but I don't like Denver would 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.360 be good, but I don't know if they would be better. Yeah, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.680 uh yeah. We did talk about the fact that this 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.640 offense and the way that they play doesn't feel particularly 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.360 suited for deep playoff runs in the frozen tundra of 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.760 lambau Field. Yet um, you know here they are kind 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.640 of kind of still playing that way and having these 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.040 exits in the postseason and these fridge attempts at not 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.320 getting the same kind of wide open offense you see 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.280 a lot of times during the regular season from them. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:07.800 But that's a story for another day. Um, it did, right, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.120 I mean it's they played a different way. Everything was 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.000 the throw to the running back or Davante. I mean, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.000 if you watch that, and I know there's the frustrated 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.000 about this, you watch back that third and eleven, you 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.400 can see Lazarre coming clear, wide open across the middle, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.080 and I'm like, and I'm no exces and those guru, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.480 but I'm like, oh my god, you saw that, right, Yeah, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.720 I mean there are a number of opportunities. I mean, like, look, 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.599 he's the best thrower of the pure thrower of the 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.600 football in the league, Like it feels like everything you 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.400 know that he can overcome any sort of obstacle. But 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.400 for whatever reason, and these playoff games, you know, just 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.040 had not had their best performances in these exits. And 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.959 look that happens to you know, every every team except 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.400 for one, every season. But um, the you mentioned it briefly, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.679 the verbal agreement was that that was a part of 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.400 like the rework contract that they figured out once he 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.240 arrived in Green Bay, and that would make it easier 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.959 or more difficult to facilitate an exit if need be. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.320 It wasn't. It wasn't like it's there's nothing written from 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.640 what I can tell. So if they want to give 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.840 him the finger, I guess they could theoretically do it. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.120 But the way they've conducted themselves both sides, like, I 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.240 don't think there would be a proverbial finger. I think 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.000 there would be like you respect us, we respect you, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.760 We told you we would do this, let's do it, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.920 you know. And so basically what it was was, um, 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.439 we will consider trade options to a place that makes 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.680 sense for both of us. So like probably wouldn't consider 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.400 a trade to the Bears probably probably wouldn't want to 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.839 trade him in the NFC, but might you trade him 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.160 to like the Broncos Maybe. I think that's probably more 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.520 what it was. Yeah, and that that that certainly seemed 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.120 to be the destination that made the most sense or 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.199 had the most traction right in the most talk last 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:58.000 off So look at that. Rogers Brady will headline the 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.079 off season, and their decisions to either come back, go 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.680 to leave, or to find a news destination will certainly 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.000 be the biggest pieces of the off season, but not 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.719 the only. In fact, all this coaching news that we're 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.160 starting to see heat up a little bit, and perhaps 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.760 one more seismic move that could alter the state of 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.920 the NFL in the NFC South in particular, we dig 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:36.920 into red after this all right back here on NFL 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.240 Inside Report and FEL Network Inside I and RAP Reports 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.720 gracious enough to be our guests today once again, And look, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.840 I and You've been tracking down some some major major 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.199 stories here these last couple of weeks. We talked a 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.800 little bit about Brady and Rodgers. In the first segment 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.760 here Sean Payton and the uncertainty surrounding his future in 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.640 New Orleans. Again popping up. His name's have been mentioned 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.320 in and around the periphery of certain you know, potential 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.559 head coaching moves the last couple of years, but this 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.120 seems more uncertain than ever. And look, not that you're 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.720 reporting ever needed any validation, but the owner of the 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.960 Saints and Gail Benson, essentially affirmed your report today saying that, yeah, 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.440 I appreciated that. Yeah, no, right, yeah, we don't know, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.000 and I mean she was kind of laughing it off, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.960 but she said, yeah, like nobody knows, which is a 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.600 like in and of itself, is a pretty big statement, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:49.160 isn't it. Yeah, you know, it's funny because like, you 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.120 do this enough, and like I was confident of my 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.480 information anyway, but god, you never know, people are going 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.840 to say like, of course they could. She could have 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.480 said like, that's ridiculous, I don't know what you're talking about, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.240 while secretly knowing that there was some sort of intrigue 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.880 and I'm sure and like you sure have never know. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:10.520 Instead she was basically like, uh, yeah, as good as mine, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.320 which is okay because I don't know either, um, and 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.880 I don't know that anybody knows, And that was what 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.440 was so interesting about it. You know, with the Brady thing, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.160 I could feel like people were kind of like, yeah, 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.560 he's gonna take some time with Sean. Paytone was really like, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.440 I don't know, he hasn't told us have you heard 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.360 anything like that? Was basically like all the people close 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.320 to him were kind of like, I've heard the rumors too, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.640 what are you here? So? I mean, I don't know, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.960 I really And he's got some opportunities in media. I 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.600 don't know. I don't know who he's gonna do. But 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.560 it just seems like he's just such a ball coach man. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.440 It's like, you know, loves he still calls the place, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.040 loves the X and knows that it loves the game 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.200 planning part of it. Now, the fact that they went 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.040 through four quarterbacks this year made it a really difficult 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.240 and stressful season I would imagine for Sean um And 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.640 it sounded like this season was very hard for him, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.600 very very very hard for him. Do you feel like 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.480 the lack of a long term answer at quarterback is 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.920 part of what might might wear on him after, you know, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.760 having Drew Brees for fifteen years. No, I think if 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.760 he decides to come back, that invigorates him more than 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:21.040 what's the opposite of that depresses him. I I feel 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.080 like if he decides to come back, him trying to 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.320 find the next quarterback would be something that he would 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.360 look forward to. The challenge, the excitement that chase, like 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.920 all of that. I think that would be great. It's 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.480 really just he was a head coach for is a 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.440 head coach for a long time, sixteen years, and he's 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.840 great at it, and it's just a long time. It's 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.480 kind of like Brady. It's like the reason will be 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.200 like if he decides because he needs a break, it's 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.000 just a lot, like these jobs are all consuming and 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.880 you can't be a normal person. And I get it, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.560 Like he might just need a break and that's okay. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.200 You know, there's no sense that at this point this 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:05.200 has anything to do with the long rumored relationship courtship 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:06.679 that they may or may not have had with the 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:13.199 Dallas Cowboys and Sean Payton. Um I would say, I 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.919 don't believe that would be anything this year. If he 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.479 did take a year off, took a mini, little mini vacation, 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.760 remember he'd be under contract with the Saints. So if 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.359 the Cowboys did replace him, and then I'm sorry, if 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.600 the Saints did replace him, and then the Cowboys wanted 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.000 to hire him the next year to be compensation, so 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.600 they could sort of work that out. But I don't 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.360 think that would be an issue this year. I think 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.120 it would be more of an issue next year if 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.280 it became an issue at all. Right, And but as 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.800 of right now, there's reports of him, you know, in 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.879 the building in New Orleans today right like he's back 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:51.760 from whatever little relaxation. At least he is at least present. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.000 He is back from Mexico. Yes, yeah, there you go. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.719 So we'll continue to follow that storyline, certainly. But the 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:02.560 coaching carousel has been fairly slow developing, at least that's 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.240 what it feels like. Maybe it's the volume of the 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.280 openings and the interviews, um, but we still have all 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.399 of these head coaching openings, although it does sound like 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.520 some are heating up here a little bit in Houston. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.840 I find it very interesting that for the second year, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.959 we're talking about an interview with Josh McCown, who has 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.040 never coached in the NFL and has never had any 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.159 other interview to my understanding, in the NFL other for 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:31.920 he interviewed with the Jaguars. He did okay, So but 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.360 but again there's been the strongest interest seems to be 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.880 from the Houston Texans. Any idea like where that where 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.600 the genesis of that is? I mean, I know he's 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.680 he's someone who has always been respected in the league. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.920 He has no coaching credentials except for high school football. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.720 He has unbelievable leadership credentials. Yes, anyone who has ever 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.640 known or worked with Josh McCowen absolutely swears by him 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.680 and loves And I know this has made everyone's head explode. 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.399 And I get it, because on one hand, you have 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.520 an unqualified non coach getting an opportunity to opportunities to 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.600 be ahead to have a head coach interview, while many many, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:14.159 very very qualified minorities don't get that chance, which is 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.000 infuriating and on its face ridiculous. So I get it. 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:23.160 On the other hand, uh, this might be an anomaly 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.000 because anyone who has known him has known he was 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.600 going to be a head coach at some point. Like 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.080 he's just that guy. He's always been like that. He's 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.240 always been like that, and so you know, would it 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.280 be ridiculous for them to kind of take the NBA 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.320 model and just be like, this guy is a great 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.320 leader he has no coach experience, but we think you're 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.000 figured into the job and we're just going to hire 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:47.679 him like probably could. So he would need a lot 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.760 of help, He need a lot of veteran assistance. But 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.280 I don't think it's crazy. And you know NFL teams 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.080 do plenty of crazy things, and to me, like this 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.119 is no crazier than any of the other crazy things 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.679 they do. Sure. Um, And then just to hit on 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.280 some of the interviews and some of the teams that 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.359 seem to be having some clarifications in their search, at 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.760 least they're getting some clarity in their search. Broncos seem 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.840 to be down to a second round of interviews for 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.200 some guys seeing with the Bears, with the Jaguars and 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.240 what the Giants bringing Brian Dabole in this week after 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.840 hiring Joe Shane as their general manager. Is that is 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.560 that kind of the sense that you've gotten on teams 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.720 that are getting a little bit closer. Yeah, I mean 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.720 I think as a look at my humongous board here, 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.600 you know, Broncos are certainly a getting closure. They got 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.359 Nathaniel Hackett in the building right now, obviously a strong candidate. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.840 You bring them in first, pretty strong candidate. Um, So 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.000 I would say that's obviously something the Bears are kind 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:51.720 of whittling down. They're gonna have some finalists. Um I 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.760 would say the Jaguars have not yet. Jaguars and Dobbins 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.920 have not yet put in request for second They haven't 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.119 done seconds yet. Okay, they've done Jaguars have done ebra flus. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.640 The Dolphins have not done any. Houston hasn't done second interviews, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.320